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1:58What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
2:01Off to the races and he stays on his feet.
2:04He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.
2:09We've got big, big news to cover today with rankings, risers and fallers after preseason week one.
2:15Plus, some injuries, including Brees Hall leaving with a non-contact injury that I saw reported as a groin injury.
2:21This just happened 20, 30 minutes ago. So, we're gathering information.
2:24But, Jeremiah Love with the high ankle sprain. Christian McCaffrey still out due to tightness or maybe something else.
2:30And who stood out in the preseason? Who's on the rise?
2:33Who's moving down in the rankings? Who's with me?
2:36Yeah! Dave's here. Hey, Dave. Dave? I am starting to really look forward to drafts that matter.
2:41They're coming up in the next couple weeks. Hopefully, everybody else will be just as psyched as I am.
2:47I have my best ball flex draft today, actually.
2:50Probably starting now. So, they matter. Jamie, what's up?
2:53Yo! Oh, good stuff. Heath! I've had two drafts that matter in the last five days.
2:57And I am looking forward to more of them.
3:00What was the best pick you made in those two drafts?
3:04One pick. The best. We're going to find out.
3:06We'll let you know in about four months. Oh, no.
3:09The one that you feel the best about. I'll rephrase.
3:13Yeah, I don't. Say flowers in round one. Come on.
3:16He did it. There we go. Hot off the presses.
3:19I hate say flowers this year. Just letting you all know.
3:22Oh! Did you see the flaw in your bet?
3:25Wait, wait, wait, wait. No. That was a great flaw in the bet, but I think it's important.
3:30I went back just to listen this morning because I knew this was going to come up again.
3:36And I just wanted to hear what Adam said.
3:39Wait, wait. And literally, it was any bet you want.
3:42Yeah. Yeah. Devontae Smith will outscore Zay Flowers. And you name the stakes.
3:46Yeah, I know. It was showmanship. Listen, I'm happy to get back into that.
3:50But we got a big show. Let's get to it right here.
3:54So, by the way, we were going to do how to draft from each position in the draft today.
4:00But so much news here, including, you know, a little bit of a history of how players perform after suffering a high
4:06ankle sprain because that's what Jeremiah Love has. You know, I wanted to make sure we spent enough time on that.
4:13So we're going to push that to Wednesday. Brees Hall left Monday's practice with a non-contact groin injury.
4:18And the funny thing is, Jamie, he had, based on usage, now Isaiah Davis didn't play, but Brees Hall had a very encouraging preseason game.
4:26He played something like 11 of 12 snaps with the starters.
4:29He played on third down. Again, no Isaiah Davis.
4:32But, you know, he was treated as a workhorse there.
4:35But I don't know. Does it even make sense to react to this one?
4:40Or should we wait until tomorrow until we get more news, Jamie, for Brees Hall?
4:44I mean, we're still a little bit away from the majority of drafts happening.
4:48So we could probably wait to get a full idea of what he's dealing with.
4:53Hopefully we get something before the end of the show.
4:56That would be ideal. We have lots of shows going on.
5:00So by Tuesday, we'll hopefully know. By Tuesday night, same thing.
5:03Look, it sucks. You know, this is the nature of this game that we love, right?
5:08Fantasy and reality. It's just that, you know, we're dealing with injuries across the board.
5:12You know, even Jamal Adams getting lost for the season.
5:16You know, that sucks. You know, and just seeing how these things unfold.
5:20Between Jeremiah Love and Brees Hall, it's, you know, two running backs that were going in the round three range.
5:26You know, beginning part of round three to the end of round three.
5:30And that's going to, you know, push up some guys behind him.
5:33The Cam Scadaboos, the Quinshot Judkins, the DeAndre Swift type guys.
5:37Travis Eichan. And make it probably a little bit more of a priority if you're picking toward the back end of round
5:44one to take two running backs first. So, you know, hopefully we'll get these guys right.
5:48And then the flip side of this is Braylon Allen could be a big winner.
5:53Tyler Rodger could be a big winner, especially early in the season.
5:57These guys are going to miss any time. All right.
6:00And that's Brett's Brees Hall. We'll see what happens.
6:03Hopefully we'll get an update soon. Kyle Monongai left practice yesterday with a knee injury, but it is apparently not serious.
6:09What's interesting is that DeAndre Swift in the first five games when Kyle Monongai had only 22 carries, DeAndre Swift was on pace for 238 carries.
6:17In the last 11 games, DeAndre Swift was on pace for 237 carries.
6:21And that was with Kyle Monongai getting a lot more than that.
6:25He was on pace for 187 carries in those games.
6:28So they just started running the ball so much more.
6:31If they kept that philosophy and only had one of those guys, it would be, you know, it'd be pretty exciting for fantasy.
6:38We have an update from Aaron Glenn already. All right.
6:41What do we got? Brees Hall suffered a strained groin today per Aaron Glenn, this according to Schefter.
6:47I don't think it was a big deal, Glenn said.
6:50Okay. So if he were out. Now, LaFleur also said the same thing about love.
6:54So keep that in mind. If Brees Hall were in the wake of the injury to love, he downplayed it.
7:00That's what coaches do this time of year. They don't have to say.
7:04By the way, we have two probably of the most annoying things that we're going to deal with is Robinson and Robinson
7:11on the Falcons and LaFleur on love. Yeah. It's gotten, you know, wasn't supposed to be a big deal.
7:17He's going to be out a week or whatever.
7:20Now he's got a high ankle sprain and they can't commit to Jeremiah love in week one.
7:25Heath, if Brees Hall were out, what would that mean for Braylon Allen and Isaiah Davis?
7:30Out for how long? Let's just, just give me, I don't know.
7:34We don't know the severity of it. Right now, based on what Aaron Glenn said, I'm going to assume he's back week one.
7:41But if he's not, I mean, how much would you like them?
7:44Like I, I would prefer Braylon Allen. He had obviously a very nice run in the preseason game.
7:50He is the one I have ranked higher. I moved him up a little bit.
7:55So he's in the round 14-ish range. He might move up to the round 13 or 12 range if we thought Brees
8:01Hall was going to miss one game. But it's just, it doesn't sound like it's anything that's going to cost Brees Hall a month.
8:09And so I'm not going to move him up much higher than that.
8:13Heath, would you recommend if Adam were to take Brees Hall in his draft today, Monday, that he spends a late round
8:19pick on Braylon Allen just in case? Until we know more.
8:23I mean, I, I still wouldn't put Braylon Allen ahead of the other handcuffs that I like more.
8:28Fair. So I'm not going to move him ahead of those guys just because I drafted Brees Hall.
8:34Right. Okay. All right. Christian McCaffrey still not practicing due to tightness.
8:38But Dave, what do we see? A pro football talk speculating this could be contract related.
8:43Which we, we don't know. It's purely speculation. And it sounds like, yeah, again, this is a situation where the coaches are downplaying it.
8:50Clay Kubiak basically downplayed it to the media. It's been a week and the 49ers don't play a regular season game for like three and a half weeks.
8:59So I'm not worried yet about McCaffrey and I haven't moved him down yet, but the time could come if week to
9:0510 days from now, it's still tightness. There isn't any other talk about it being contract related.
9:11At that point, I think you've got to really look at it and say, all right, there's a chance McCaffrey is dealing with something that could linger.
9:19Okay. I, I moved him down already. Same. So just because he was out for a week.
9:24Well, I mean, I was already concerned to begin with.
9:27And so it was just, you know, further reason to downgrade him.
9:31And so this is, I mean, look, it obviously could be contract related.
9:35That's, that's a fair speculation, but this is the same, you know, you want to call it tightness.
9:40I'll just call it vagueness. Same thing that we dealt with two years ago with him where it was, oh yeah, his calf.
9:47It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. By week 10, he's missed the majority of the season with an Achilles injury.
9:54So, you know, there, there, there's enough of a history here where, you know, Adam brought this up all the time.
10:00And the flip side of this, oh, if you're worried about McCaffrey, why shouldn't you be worried about Taylor with what his numbers were?
10:07And James Cook with what his situation could be and Chase Brown, all those things.
10:12Well, it's, it's, it's the same thing. So I just put those guys ahead of McCaffrey because I think there's as much
10:19risk and maybe not as much upside, but I don't know.
10:22Certainly much more downside. Okay. Jeremiah Love high ankle sprain.
10:25We've got Tyler Algier, Corey Kiner and Bam Knight right now in the Arizona running back rotation.
10:30James Connor and Trey Benson are also injured at the moment.
10:34So they definitely have a thin running back room, even though it was just ironic because they had like the deepest running
10:41back room for a while or one of the deepest.
10:44But, um, all right, Heath, what's your reaction to Jeremiah Love?
10:47I sent out an email this morning. Let's get some rankings, risers and followers.
10:51Nobody put Jeremiah Love on the followers list yet.
10:54But, uh, what is obvious? Sorry. Oh, okay. Okay.
10:57So he did fall for you, Jamie. Yeah. But not for Heath.
11:01I, I had him at the three, four turn before the injury.
11:04I was kind of expecting kind of a slow ramp up to start of the season with Tyler Algier touching more ball more than I thought.
11:12And I think the biggest conflict for me was watching Jeremiah Love in that game.
11:17My thought was, oh no, I'm way too low.
11:20I've got to move him up. And then he suffers the injury.
11:23So it was kind of like competing forces. I'm just going to leave him at three, four turn.
11:29Oh, fair enough. Yeah. He looked so good. Um, but Jamie, where'd you move Jeremiah Love to?
11:34Right to where he has him. Back into round three.
11:37Dave. He was middle to late round three to begin with for me.
11:41Now he's like even closer to the three, four turn.
11:44Let's keep in mind that he didn't do anything against the Raiders starting defense.
11:49When he did get his big runs, it was against the Raiders backups.
11:53Two of his big runs, eight plus yards came on the back of Chase Besantis, who's now out for the year.
11:59So I'm, I'm a little bit nervous about like pumping them up after the game and then hearing about the high ankle sprain.
12:06I don't want to overreact to that either. So I'm just trying to say as even keel, but faced with the decision
12:13of Jeremiah Love versus Kyron Williams, I'll take the safer running back in Kyron Williams.
12:18Javante Williams or Jeremiah Love? Javante. Right now, Love, but that'll change depending on how this timeline goes.
12:23And Dave said Kyron. Heath, Kyron, or Love? I had Kyron one spot ahead of him and I would have changed that
12:30if he hadn't got hurt in that game probably.
12:33But I'm sticking with Kyron one spot ahead of him.
12:36Kyron ahead of Love. Yeah, so I think the question here is, look, maybe, maybe he misses a game.
12:41Maybe he doesn't. But is he going to be himself?
12:45So just some history with high ankle sprains. So Saquon Barkley has had at least two of them.
12:502019, week three, he's averaging 6.4 yards per carry up to that point.
12:54He gets a high ankle sprain, Saquon Barkley. He misses three games.
12:58He comes back. He averages 4.3 yards per carry in 10 games.
13:01Saquon Barkley, fast forward to 2023. Second game of the year, he gets a high ankle sprain.
13:07He's averaging 3.9 yards per carry at that point.
13:09That's exactly what he averaged in the 12 games after.
13:13Jonathan Taylor, 4.8 yards per carry in the first four games of 2024.
13:17And then he had a high ankle sprain. He missed three games.
13:20So Barkley missed three games. Then Barkley missed three games.
13:23Then Taylor missed three games. You get the picture here.
13:26And he averaged 4.7 yards per carry with 4.8 before the injury, Jonathan Taylor.
13:314.7 after in 10 games after returning. CeeDee Lamb last year had the high ankle sprain in week three, the very, very beginning of week three.
13:39I believe he missed three games. I will confirm that.
13:42Yes, he did. He missed three games. And then he came back and he was awesome.
13:47Yards per target, yards per catch were basically career highs or close to career highs for CeeDee Lamb.
13:52Maybe it's different for a running back than it is for a wide receiver.
13:57But the three-week timeline is pretty much week one, right?
14:00So maybe it's not that big of a deal, but you just never know how these guys are going to perform coming off injuries.
14:07But it's all of it for him, though. It's the potential missed time.
14:11It's the competition for touches, assuming that everybody's healthy.
14:14And I don't think it needs to be all three guys being healthy in terms of Conor and Benson, but probably two of them.
14:21And it sounds like Conor's close, but there's also just the Algier factor by himself that that's going to be somebody that
14:28most likely still feels touchdowns, as we've seen him ruin another pretty high-profile rookie running back.
14:33Dave mentioned the offensive line injury already. We have a tough schedule on our hands to begin with.
14:38There's just a lot of things that he has to overcome.
14:42And yes, it was against the Raiders. It was against Raiders backups.
14:45He passed the eyeball test. He certainly passed the workload test.
14:49He failed the workload test because of what LeFleur did to him.
14:53He didn't need to be out there for this, and that was part of the problem is that, okay, you saw enough.
14:59You didn't need to keep him out there for as long as you did.
15:04I just think you've got to sort of keep it in perspective.
15:07The upside could be awesome. Yes. To me, it was the work and the passing game that I wanted to see, and it was there.
15:15And so that was encouraging. I think that there's going to be a sluggish start no matter if he misses a week or two.
15:22So if you're drafting him with the idea of, okay, this could still be a league winner, I get that because their
15:29schedule does lighten up a little bit in the back half of the season.
15:33As we talk about all the time, so many injuries are going to occur for defensive players that defenses aren't going to
15:40look the same based on rankless going into the start of the season.
15:44But when you start to stack him up with, I think a fair comp right now is obviously Josh Jacobs who's missing time with a groin injury.
15:52Like, you know, these guys were sort of in a similar range.
15:56And so 28, 29-year-old Josh Jacobs, however old he is, you know, coming off a little bit of a down year for
16:03him, dealing with his injury and the potential suspension.
16:06Like, that's a good, okay, who has more upside versus downside question?
16:09Kyron Williams with the Blake Corum factor. I think Javante Williams is certainly within this range of, you know, discussing.
16:16And now Brees Hall, who's probably going to fall behind these guys if this is a long-term injury or at least going
16:22to miss any time due to injury. You know, so those four or five guys, you know, I think sort of come
16:29into play anywhere from the middle to the end of round three, early part of round four.
16:34Basically what we see, it is what we see based on ADP.
16:38So there's a lot of question marks with just that group.
16:41And really, if you want to go the safe route, like probably Dave is doing, Javante may be over the other injured guys.
16:48And Kyron, just based on his history, makes a lot of sense.
16:52All right. A few more news items here. Jordan Tyson has no timetable for his return from a hamstring injury.
16:58We'll talk about that with risers and fallers. DJ Moore hurt his ankle, but apparently he is good to go.
17:04Alec Pierce is not expected to practice this week.
17:07Is anyone drafting Alec Pierce in the top 100?
17:10Yes. I think I've got him in the 90s.
17:13Yeah, he's in the 90s for me too. Okay.
17:16Tucker Craft thinks he'll be on a snap count until mid-season.
17:19This is a guy who ran 80% of the routes and played 91.5% of the snaps in weeks one through eight before tearing his ACL.
17:27So this was not a part-time player, Tucker Craft.
17:29Is anyone moving Tucker Craft down based on this?
17:32No. No. Kind of still factored into him being tied in seven for me was, again, kind of an expectation of a slow start to the season.
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22:08So I just want to bring something up real quick.
22:11I went back and looked at the last five years, and I think if I kept going back, it would be the same thing.
22:18This is the cheapest that the quarterback position has been in such a long time in terms of average draft position.
22:25Right now on Fantasy Pros, and it's pretty similar on CBS, Josh Allen is going 24th.
22:30Lamar Jackson is going 42nd. Drake May, Joe Burrow, 52nd and 54th.
22:34Jayden Daniels, 61st. Jalen Hurts, 66th. So that is two quarterbacks off the board by pick 42.
22:39By pick 50, only two. In 2025, the first five quarterbacks were off the board by pick 35.
22:44Same thing in 2023. 2024, the first four quarterbacks were off the board by the 37th pick.
22:50I could go on and on, but it is just crazy how discounted these quarterbacks are.
22:54I have one question about that because, Jamie, you write the ADP review every week, and you will remember better than I do.
23:02My impression is that every week we get closer to the season, the quarterbacks will get drafted higher because more normal people start drafting their fantasy football teams.
23:10And I was just going to say, you now have some pretty significant injuries impacting round three, especially if Emeka Abuka's toe injury is a problem too.
23:18I think we see the quarterbacks get pushed up.
23:21Now, probably not to the same level that we have in years past, but I do think we're going to see Lamar probably creep into round three.
23:30Right now, he's a round four pick. I think we're going to see probably Drake May, Joe Burrow, Jayden Daniels, those guys
23:36start to get pushed up a little bit. I do think, though, it's – look, we're in a very oversaturated market of
23:43fantasy analysts right now, more so than ever before as well.
23:46And so you're getting hit over the head by the people who play this game either casually or significantly.
23:52And so they're understanding more and more like, okay, I can wait for this position no matter how many times we've said it for 10, 15 years.
24:01The injuries start to happen, and it's like, okay, I know that guy's safer, and I can probably get Quinchon Judkins a
24:07round later than I have to reach for Jeremiah Love right now.
24:11Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, whatever the reason may be, I also wonder if people are just looking at the late round quarterbacks this year.
24:19Of course. But more than ever or more than recent.
24:22I'll be really interested to see where it's at three and a half weeks from now.
24:27Yeah, me too, me too. Because Josh Allen's been a pretty steady riser.
24:31Right. All right, so let's get to the rankings movers here, the risers.
24:35Speaking of risers, Jamie, this is related to the Jordan Tyson injury.
24:38Chris Olave is a riser for you. So is Cleveland wide receiver Casey Concepcion, who had a touchdown in the preseason game
24:45this past weekend, and Denver running back Jonah Coleman.
24:48But all right, give me your thoughts on the Saints situation.
24:51I'm also curious to know if you moved up Jawan Johnson and or Devon Vele, but you start with Olave.
24:57I did move up Jawan Johnson. I did move up Olave, too.
25:01He was in that sort of wide receiver bunch for me behind Jeremiah Love prior to the injury.
25:07But middle of round three. Now he's basically bumping up to round two and maybe a round two pick.
25:13It really is dependent on how long Jordan Tyson's going to be out.
25:17There was never a doubt that Chris Olave is going to be the best receiver for the Saints.
25:22Tyson was having, by all accounts, a great training camp and looking explosive and looking like a guy Tyler Stuck was leaning on.
25:29And you've heard me say this a lot. Last year, the numbers with Rashid Shahid, without Rashid Shahid, not necessarily overly dramatic.
25:36And again, ties into Tyler Stuck when he started.
25:39But he definitely played better when Shahid was out.
25:41He averaged 9.9 targets per game in the seven games after Rashid Shahid was traded.
25:46And so averaged over 20 PPR points per game after Rashid Shahid was traded.
25:50So if he's going to be essentially a solo act for however many weeks this could go on, and we don't know
25:57when Tyson is going to return, this is another one that could linger into the start of the season based on the initial reports.
26:05But it's a guy that has hamstring and knee injuries dating back to college.
26:09So it may not be the only time that he's going to miss.
26:13And you would imagine the Saints are going to be very cautious with him, especially if they're winning games early in the season.
26:20So I think for Olave, he's now, you know, I've kind of been, I don't want to say all over the place,
26:27but bouncing around between that 11, 12 wide receiver spot.
26:30Olave now firmly inside the top 12. And again, somebody you could consider taking in round two.
26:35Juwan Johnson moved up into the top 15 tight ends for me.
26:39He was just outside that group, so bumped him up a few spots also just because, again, he was very successful for the Saints.
26:46Tyler Stuck, Kellen Moore last year. We'll see if Oscar dealt what kind of role he plays, you know, in limiting that.
26:53But I think as we see with rookie tight ends, when there is somebody established there, it takes them a little bit of time.
27:00So I still think Juwan Johnson's the feature tight end for this team.
27:04And then if you want me to go on with the other guys?
27:08Well, with Olave, I just want to know how difficult this is of a decision to make when you don't have a
27:15timeline for Jordan Tyson because you'd hate to be like, oh, yeah, he's my wide receiver 11 or whatever.
27:21And then, oh, Jordan Tyson's going to be ready by week two or something.
27:25And you're dropping him with a few spots or whatever.
27:28So it was basically he was like never lower than wide receiver 14 for me.
27:33And so it's just easy to say, OK, if there is a delay in Jordan Tyson getting on the field at the
27:40start of the season because of this, I can't sit here and say Devontae Smith is in a better spot than Chris
27:46Olave right now because Smith has been missing so much time with a hamstring injury.
27:51Not that expected to linger, but again, you know, you start to nitpick when you're close between a player or two.
27:57Abuka was another guy that was in the mix for this spot too.
28:01And now he's got this toe injury that can linger.
28:04So Olave coming off a very strong, you know, week of practice last week, coming into a situation where he could just get even more opportunities.
28:12So I don't think there's any reason to shy away from him.
28:16Not that most people were. I was just a little bit concerned because the presence of Tyson and what he had been
28:23doing just downgrading Olave a little bit. OK. Yeah, sure.
28:26Go on with the rest of your risers then.
28:29Yeah, so the Browns quarterback situation sucks and that is not going to change this season.
28:34But I do like the fact that they're going to manufacture touches for Concepcion.
28:38You know, you got that coming into the game.
28:41You saw it in the game. You got it coming out of the game like they just want to get the ball
28:48in his hands as much as possible. Nobody ever doubted his explosiveness.
28:51I think just, you know, the the way that he scored the contact balance, the ability to, you know, show a little
28:58bit of a physical presence, backing up everything that you heard in camp.
29:02Just easy to move them up about 10 spots in my rankings at receiver and about 20 spots overall in the top 200.
29:09And then for Jonah Coleman, it was I moved him up a little bit following the J.K.
29:14Dobbins injury. You know, again, just being concerned about somebody that has missed at least four games in each of the last
29:21four years and significant time in a few seasons in that span.
29:25Coleman looked great. You know, four for 24. You know what it's going to be.
29:29I think if Dobbins misses time, it's going to be a shared situation.
29:33But knowing Sean Payton, he's going to find a way to get Coleman on the field.
29:38So another one of these lottery ticket running backs.
29:41I think it was a good week. I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but it was a good week for
29:48a lot of rookies, receivers and running backs. You know, Emmitt Johnson looked great.
29:52Mike Washington looked great. Coleman looked great. You know, so for these guys that you're just looking at with late round picks,
29:59especially with what we're talking about now with injuries, it's just easy to take, you know, late round flyers.
30:05Again, don't fill your bench with guys that aren't going to be.
30:08Don't fill your bench with guys that you think are going to be relevant now.
30:13If you love your starting lineup, fill your bench with guys that are going to be relevant later.
30:19And these are the type of running backs that can do so.
30:22All right. Concepcion or Alec Pierce? All of you.
30:25That's close right now. I think I might have Pierce ahead of him, but, you know, another week of missed time, mispractice
30:32time, that's easy to put Concepcion ahead. Pierce. Pierce.
30:35And I love Concepcion. I've been talking about him since the draft.
30:38Okay. How about Jordan Tyson or Concepcion? Concepcion. Tyson.
30:41Oh. Okay. Yeah. I think Cleveland sucks, right? But if you're going to take a shot on somebody from a team that
30:48sucks, take a shot on the guy that's going to be used in a bunch of ways and get good target volume
30:55along the way, along with the occasional carry. And if you're asking a receiver to run seven yards and catch a pass,
31:01I think a quarterback can hit that. Even somebody like Shadur Sanders or Deshaun Watson.
31:06If you're asking the quarterback to make tight window throws to the second and third levels of a defense while being pressured
31:13because your offensive line is filled with inexperienced tackles or over-the-hill veterans inside, then I think you'd be a little bit hard-pressed
31:19to get good results out of those guys. We still have a little bit of question about Casey Concepcion and two wide receiver sets, right?
31:27Absolutely. Yeah. He didn't play in them. Right. I don't think anyway.
31:31And Denzel Boston did. Denzel Boston did. And Jerry Judy.
31:34So it's like Boston and Judy are your outside guys.
31:37Concepcion is your slot guy. I don't think Concepcion played in two wide receiver sets.
31:42I don't know. The people I think are going to go crazy over stuff like that, I would say, if he's good
31:48enough, he's going to get on the field. He'll earn it.
31:52Yeah. Unless a team goes and has a game where they've got three tight ends in for 50% of the snaps.
31:58Maybe lower than that. Maybe four. Well, two tight ends can get you two wide receivers on the field.
32:04He can also get you three wide receivers on the field.
32:07Yeah. If he didn't play a running back. No, he did not.
32:11But it could hurt the running game, too. Yeah.
32:14And this is a team that's probably going to be chasing points in a bunch of games.
32:19Well, right. Yeah. All right. Look, I mean, you're picking him 100th overall.
32:23I actually want to make sure we talk about Quinchon Judkins because what we saw very briefly was kind of more of the same.
32:30It was a terrible offensive line and a guy that is going to have to work so hard to get his yards.
32:37It was only three carries, I think. Also, he came off the field on third down for Dylan Sampson.
32:43All right. So that's Jonah Coleman. Yeah. I mean, gosh, R.J.
32:46Harvey. I mean, it is worth mentioning. Dobbins didn't play and R.J.
32:50Harvey was treated like the starter. I mean, he played a ton.
32:54You know, he should be. He should be. But he was such a bad rusher last year.
32:59This is just my personal opinion of all the running backs that I've watched on tape.
33:04I mean, I think the two that stood out as just being the absolute worst were Chuba Hubbard and R.J.
33:10Harvey, just based on last year. Hubbard's had better moments earlier in his career.
33:14Harvey just was, I don't know. I thought he was terrible, honestly.
33:18And I thought in this game, again, like he just doesn't do anything.
33:22Which is reason to buy into Coleman. Exactly. Exactly.
33:25But, yeah, I don't know. We have to at least mention that Harvey was treated certainly ahead of Jonah Coleman and had
33:32a role in this preseason game that was awesome.
33:34That we would love if Dobbins were out. I guess we just mentioned it.
33:39There we go. But things will develop over time.
33:42Dave, Michael Wilson and DeJuan Stribling are your risers based on the preseason.
33:46So we can question Mike LaFleur's decision to use Jeremiah Love as much as he did and then describe his injury in the days after all we want.
33:54But I don't think there's any doubting how LaFleur is deploying his receivers.
33:58And it's a lot better than how Arizona deployed their receivers last year.
34:02A lot more horizontal routes for both Wilson and Marvin Harrison Jr.
34:06They're going to challenge the middle of defenses, it seems like, play after play after play.
34:11And I know Marv had the touchdown. And Marv looked good, too.
34:14He drew a DPI on a fade pattern. But I thought Wilson had a little bit more juice to him.
34:21And I changed the gap between Harrison and Wilson.
34:23And now I think they're both round six players.
34:26And ADP, at least the last time I looked at it, there was at least 15 spots between Marvin Harrison Jr.
34:33And Michael Wilson. And I don't think it should be that much.
34:36I think it should be a lot closer. And I would like to get the second of the two.
34:42And the second of the two is going to be Michael Wilson.
34:46So he's moved into that top 75 range, especially in full PPR, especially for a team that I think is still going
34:53to stink and throw the ball a lot in 2026.
34:56As for Stribbling, he ran 15 routes. He had eight targets.
34:59He had seven catches. I can nitpick his feet being out of bounds in the back of the end zone.
35:05But I love the way that the 49ers used him.
35:08It felt like they were fast tracking him to the offense and trying to get him acclimated as fast as possible.
35:15The tracking on the deep ball and the size advantage they had on the corner, all those things really mattered to me.
35:21And think about who he's playing with in San Francisco.
35:25It's Mike Evans, who's older. George Kittle, who's older and coming back from a big injury.
35:29Debo Samuel, older. Who's left that's younger in this passing game?
35:33I think that there's a real pathway for Stribbling to be a focal point of the 49ers offense this year.
35:39I love the idea of drafting him relatively late and certainly not as late as we were getting him before.
35:45Cool. I like the fact that they moved him all over the place, too.
35:49Yeah. No. I think it's learn everything because you may play everything because of the other guys potentially missing time.
35:56I will say on the Michael Wilson one, I was really conflicted because I did think the Arizona offense looked better than it did last year.
36:04We've heard a lot about Kendrick Bourne in training camp and how much he's going to be on the field.
36:10And we saw Kendrick Bourne getting run with the first team and Michael Wilson not playing all of the snaps.
36:16So I considered moving Wilson down, but I just left him in the same spot.
36:21Same. I don't know what to do with him.
36:23Yeah. He's another guy who I think came off the field in two receiver sets a little bit or a lot.
36:30I'm not sure. Michael Wilson. I mean, they obviously didn't play that many snaps.
36:34But yeah, Kendrick Bourne playing a bigger role than we expected.
36:37That would be so stupid. I mean, what would be the point of that?
36:42Of taking Michael Wilson off the field for Kendrick Bourne when you just didn't they just give Michael Wilson a contract extension?
36:49That would make no sense to me. Or have they not done that yet?
36:53I don't think they did. Okay. He's going. Okay.
36:56Never mind then. Yeah. So just to put it out there, 13 snaps.
37:00This includes penalties for the Arizona offense with Bursette.
37:02Marv was in on all 13. Bourne 10 of 13.
37:05Wilson 7 of 13. Yeah. It's weird. I can see how many pass or run all that stuff if you really want.
37:12All right. Oh, you know what? Let me while we stay on that, though.
37:17I mean, I guess I had this this moment watching the Cardinals and I try not to make too much a preseason.
37:23Right. Guys look great. And I remember going to a preseason game a few years ago where Daniel Jones and Isaiah likely
37:30were up or and Darren Waller were absolutely torching it.
37:33Right. They were crushing the great show. That was a great show.
37:37And it didn't come to fruition. Ironically enough. But yeah, lessons learned.
37:41Anyway, I mean, I had this thought like maybe the Cardinals are just going to have a good offense this year.
37:47They've got a lot of really good players on the field.
37:50I hate the Basantus injury that Dave mentioned. This is their rookie second round pick playing right guard and he's out for the year.
37:58But maybe they're just going to put up points like they did last year.
38:02Imagine if the Cardinals and the Browns had quarterbacks like their skill players are awesome.
38:07But I think the Browns might kill for Jacoby Brissett at this point.
38:11Right. I agree. I don't think that's the worst level to it.
38:14Yeah. Yeah. Five pass plays for Arizona with Brissett.
38:17Wilson on the field for all five. All right.
38:20They were 23rd in scoring last year. I wonder what they were with Brissett.
38:24All right. Heath, your risers are rookies. And that makes sense.
38:28I mean, the rookies are the ones that are playing the most here.
38:32But Mike Washington for the Raiders. Emmitt Johnson for the Chiefs.
38:35These are handcuffed running backs. And Malachi Fields. I want you to know, you know, you probably don't realize the mental anguish you caused me.
38:43It's not your fault. But in our dynasty draft, I was deciding between Oscar Delp and Malachi Fields.
38:48And I went with Delp. And you took Fields right after.
38:52And I've been thinking about it for weeks. But Washington, Emmitt Johnson, Malachi Fields, risers for you.
38:57Funny. I talked about this on FFT Dynasty on Friday.
39:00But we have a feature coming out this week, I think.
39:03Our must draft players. And we did 250 words on three guys that we just keep drafting.
39:08And funny enough, Mike Washington was one of the guys I wrote about on Thursday afternoon.
39:13Watched Mike Washington have that big run and get all the shine on Twitter.
39:18And then realized it's not going to publish until like five days later.
39:22And everybody's going to think I was just excited about a training camp run.
39:26But I just thought it was nice to see that he does.
39:30Like, I kind of viewed him as a guy with huge upside and almost no competition if Ashton Jinty goes down.
39:36And that's kind of what we want out of the handcuffed running backs that we draft.
39:41And he flashed the huge upside and even played some first-team snaps.
39:45And looks like, by far, the clear RB2 in this offense.
39:48And so I moved him up just a little bit more.
39:52I had him in round 12. He's in right at the round 11 range.
39:56One of my favorite handcuffed running backs. Emmitt Johnson, very encouraging.
39:59Really weird also. Because Brashard Smith was like the clear RB2.
40:03And then we got to see some Emmitt Johnson.
40:05And then Amore Di Mercado was playing fourth-quarter snaps.
40:08I don't think Brashard Smith is holding Emmitt Johnson off.
40:11I was afraid they would want the veteran on pass-catching downs and maybe for some pass-blocking.
40:16If Emmitt Johnson's currently ahead of Amore Di Mercado, then I think Emmitt Johnson's going to be the Kenneth Walker handcuff.
40:23And I liked him a lot coming into the draft.
40:26Kind of like Mike Washington, just disappointed with where he got drafted.
40:29And the fact that he's just an obvious backup for the next couple of years.
40:34But if he gets a chance, I think he's going to be awesome.
40:38So moved him into my top 60 running backs.
40:41And then Malachi Fields was very, very good. Made a catch on a fantastic off-script Jackson dart play.
40:46Which if you're going to have success in this pass offense, I think you're going to have to do it off-script.
40:53And really, again, another guy that I liked beforehand.
40:55He flashed. Been a lot of talk at camp about him emerging as the clear wide receiver 2 for the Giants.
41:02And I didn't think that would happen this early.
41:05Yeah, it's good stuff. And Neighbors is working his way back.
41:08Hopefully he'll start, you know, I don't think he's going to play in the preseason.
41:13But make more progress. But in the meantime, Malachi Fields is taking advantage.
41:17And Heath's going to tell you why Isaiah likely is a faller.
41:20We'll do that in a little bit. I should have been asking more of the this guy or that guys.
41:27But would you take, I think this is an easy one.
41:30Dijon Stribbling or Malachi Fields? Stribbling. Stribbling. I do.
41:33I have Stribbling ahead, but it's not an easy one for me.
41:36I have them back-to-back. Would you guys take Michael Wilson or Jordan Addison?
41:40Wilson. I have Wilson higher. You're doing a great job of asking guys that I have back-to-back.
41:46I have Addison one spot higher. All right. Would you take Michael Wilson or how about Jaden Reed?
41:51Wilson. Wilson. That's close. Yeah. It's Wilson. All right.
41:54Wilson, Addison, and Reed for me. And there's a pretty big gap between Addison and Reed.
41:59All right. I almost – this is probably wrong.
42:02But the guys who did what Parker Washington and Michael Wilson did last year at the end of the year that aren't
42:08rookies historically have not duplicated that the following year.
42:11It's been kind of a false signal, and they get overdrafted.
42:15And I feel like you can't buy into both of them.
42:18Like maybe one of these guys breaks the trend, but I have a really hard time believing that both Parker Washington and
42:25Michael Wilson are going to break this trend of guys coming out of nowhere having big four or five-game stretches and then
42:31just kind of going back to who they were before.
42:35Yeah. I actually have like a list of – okay.
42:38Out of nowhere. Let's see. Ready? Go to this little spot.
42:41This is the out of nowhere list. Out of nowhere year four breakouts.
42:45Can you show us a notepad, please? Out of nowhere fourth-year breakouts over the last 15 seasons.
42:50So Christian Kirk – this was kind of like for a full season.
42:54Christian Kirk did it in 2021 with Arizona, and then he was pretty good with Jacksonville.
42:59George Pickens just had his out of nowhere fourth-year breakout.
43:02I wouldn't put George Pickens in the same category as Parker Washington and Michael Wilson going into last year.
43:08Right. Because Pickens did it almost the entire year pretty much.
43:11Well, and Pickens was – had done much more than those guys before last year.
43:16Fair. Yeah, yeah. No. He was not out of nowhere.
43:19He was out of Pittsburgh. Michael Crabtree – Michael Crabtree had like a pretty ho-hum first three seasons and then a huge fourth season.
43:27He never reached those heights again. He did have injury.
43:30Brian Hartline had a fourth-year breakout, and he actually followed that up with an 1,100-yard season in 2013.
43:35There haven't been that many. Jordy Nelson was a guy who did almost nothing his first three seasons, and then he had
43:421,200 yards and 15 touchdowns in 2011, and he just kept going.
43:46I don't think this is what Heath is referring to.
43:49I think he's talking about guys who just had late season.
43:52It was a good – I'm glad you got a chance to read that list though.
43:57Yeah, sorry. That was really more of an Alec Pierce list.
44:00That's how I made it for guys who had this like out of nowhere breakout in year four.
44:06I think it was Alec Pierce. No, it was Wondale Robinson is who I made it for.
44:11Alec Pierce. But Pierce applies. Is he – he's going his fifth year or his fourth year, Alec Pierce?
44:17Fifth year. Yeah. Yeah, so those are the two guys.
44:20It's like can they keep it going? Thank you for letting me read that stupid list that had nothing to do with our topic.
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46:22Heath has Isaiah Likely, Makai Lemon, and Omar Cooper, and some of it's injury-related.
46:26Isaiah Likely, though, I guess you didn't like the snap share.
46:30I didn't. You know, there's been a little teasing about the tight end trio that Dave and I disagreed on six months
46:37ago, and now we've come closer on two of those guys.
46:40And Dave may be turning the corner on Kyle Pitts based on a tweet I saw over the weekend.
46:46But Likely was one of those guys. Yes. And I heard in my ear what Dave said three months ago about Isaiah
46:53Likely is, what's going to be different? He's the same coach.
46:56Why is he going to be a full-time player and a featured target in the offense now?
47:01And then that's kind of what it looked like.
47:04And this is also, like, it's not a big move down.
47:07It's just I had him at Harold Fannin. I moved him behind Harold Fannin.
47:12I had him in round seven. I dropped him down to the end of round eight, so the eight-nine turn.
47:18But I think also the Malachi Fields ascension matters a little bit, too, because if it's Malik neighbors and no other wide
47:25receiver that matters, then Likely can be the second target on the offense.
47:29He might still be, but he's got a little more competition than we thought he did.
47:33There were 16 snaps that we could call first-team offense snaps, 14 with Dart and then the two plays that Dart missed
47:40because they were checking him out for a concussion, that two more.
47:44And so of those 16, Likely played six. I totally agree with the Malachi Fields part, and it's obviously a little concerning
47:51when he doesn't start for you and only plays six of 16 snaps with the starters.
47:56Are they trying to hide him? Do they think they're being cagey?
47:59Or what is it? And so I understand why people are going to be turned off by what Likely did.
48:05It's more of what I saw from Tua that made me move Pitts ahead of Likely in full PPR only.
48:12And that is once, and it's just funny, Drake London leaves the game and all of a sudden Kyle Pitts gets targets.
48:18London only played two snaps. Who cares? But whenever Tua's pressured, what have we seen the last two years?
48:24He's getting the ball out as fast as he can.
48:27Well, two of those targets went to Kyle Pitts on slip screens.
48:31And so if that's going to be a thing for however long Tua is the quarterback, that's easy receptions for Kyle Pitts.
48:38So they're back-to-back in my rankings. I flipped it where Pitts is ahead of Likely in full PPR.
48:43I'm still encouraged by Likely, though. All the reports out of camp for the Giants have been very positive for him.
48:50And I still think there's a pathway for him to be, okay, maybe not far and away the number two target getter
48:57in that offense, but still the number two target getter in that offense.
49:01Basically all the plays he – every play that Likely was in was a pass play.
49:05Basically sat out all the run plays. I would recommend the Giants mix it up.
49:10That's what Michael Wilson did. Yeah, I would recommend the Giants mix it up or they're probably going to be a little predictable offensively.
49:17I can't take us through that sequence when Jackson Dart got destroyed.
49:21I wasn't watching. I wasn't watching it live. But, yeah.
49:24People are talking about that a lot, though, because if Tracy screwed that up, people are, oh, they're going to take him
49:31off of – That was on Dart, totally. What was that?
49:34That was all on Dart. What, you think he got the protection wrong or something?
49:39I mean, you see what Tracy was doing. Tracy wasn't in the block.
49:43He was running around and he saw the guy come free.
49:46We don't know if Tracy messed that up and was supposed to be – It was either Dart messing it up or Tracy got the play call wrong.
49:55Yeah. We're never going to know. Well, they're never going to put it on Dart.
50:00But if you watch what happened, it's pretty clear.
50:02Dart didn't have any idea what was happening. Yeah.
50:05Right. Right. But Tracy said – I think he said something like, that's never going to happen again.
50:11You can watch my tape. There's hardly any of that or something like that.
50:15But, you know, Cam Scadaboo did not play on third down.
50:18And he did last year. And he was on pace for 60 catches in his healthy games, the games with his normal snap share.
50:26And he did not have that role this year.
50:28And so people seeing Chimo and Tracy completely blow that block, and that's the way they interpreted it anyway.
50:34And they're thinking, oh, this is good news either for Singletary or for Scadaboo.
50:39But I think we're probably making too much out of, you know, two series in one game.
50:44In a lot of these cases, it's all we have.
50:47It's better than nothing. But, yeah, I mean, this is what I keep talking about.
50:52Like, you want to knock Travis Achan for not being the third down back?
50:56Well, right now, neither is Quinchon Judkins or Cam Scadaboo, based on what we just saw this preseason.
51:01There are so few guys that have that role.
51:04Brees Hall, I don't know if he is. Obviously, he's hurt.
51:08But Isaiah Davis didn't play. But Brees Hall played, like, every snap.
51:11I think Javante Williams is probably going to be the third down back.
51:15But I'm just saying, you look at these running backs.
51:18Once you get to round four, who's a third down back?
51:22Who's a third down back? Pretty much nobody. Maybe Swift.
51:25Or just take the third down backs three rounds later.
51:28Or take the first and second down backs that have goal line work on top of their role, and they're going to
51:35be the feature back, the 1A, whatever you want to call them.
51:38And don't worry about it. Yeah. Could do that.
51:41Half the time, these third down backs are in their pass protecting anyway.
51:45You don't get points for that. On the Scadaboo point, 16 snaps with the first-team offense.
51:50Referring to that again. Scadaboo played five snaps. Singletary played four.
51:53Tyrone Tracy played seven. None of them played with the second-team offense.
51:57That's something I want to keep an eye on in future preseason games here.
52:01Because if they're going to have a three-man rotation, which, I mean, I'd be shocked if they did it.
52:07They did it for this game. But that would just really make things worse for all Giants running backs.
52:13Right. We're not there. We're not there yet, though.
52:16Just to be clear. No, I didn't move Scadaboo down.
52:19It's just something to take note of. All right, Heath.
52:22Makai Lemon and Omar Cooper, two rookie wide receivers that are fallers.
52:26They are. I was really hopeful that Makai Lemon at some point would make this whole Dontavian Wicks thing go away.
52:32But we got some speculation from Eagles beat writer Jimmy Kemski late last week that Dontavian Wicks is, in his opinion, going
52:39to win the wide receiver two battle. We talk about it a lot.
52:43Lemon missed so much time in this offseason. Early in the spring and then in training camp, we don't like it when rookies miss time.
52:51So he is behind Casey Concepcion for me now.
52:53And I think outside of the first nine rounds.
52:56Cooper is not even draftable. He's playing behind Isaiah Williams.
52:59Cooper is off my draft board. And we talked about Dejan Stribling.
53:03We didn't talk about Caleb Douglas, but he had a great catch.
53:07Denzel Boston, Malachi Fields. I would take all those guys.
53:10And I'd take Adonai Mitchell over him. And I'd take Jacoby Lane over him.
53:14Does Jacoby Lane look good? Yeah. Cooper is somebody that we could come back to during the season.
53:19Like, I could see him late November into December being a small factor for the Jets offense.
53:25There's no reason to draft him. Dave, what about Carnell Tate?
53:28Carnell Tate is on your followers list. It doesn't really have much to do with him as much as it does with
53:35Cam Ward and how that Titans offense looked against a lot of 49ers backups.
53:39And it wasn't great. The offensive line wasn't great.
53:42The first drive was okay for Cam Ward. After that, he had two more drives.
53:47He was three of eight passing. His ADOT was 3.8 yards.
53:50He was a mess. He was off target a bunch.
53:53And if he isn't taking a step forward, then how can we expect Carnell Tate to have even a solid rookie year?
54:00So I had him – maybe I was a little too aggressive by putting Carnell Tate in that late round six range.
54:07But now I'm taking a step back into round seven, and I reserve the right to move him even further back just
54:13because I really don't know what to expect from Cam Ward at this point.
54:18In fact, I don't have any reason to be optimistic about Cam Ward or the Titans passing game at this point.
54:24I wish I could remember the draft that we just did where I think I took Carnell Tate.
54:30Jamie, you have this weird memory for all of these – You could always just look at the draft for it.
54:36Yeah, I'm trying. I have like 50 drafts on my CBS dropdown.
54:40Was it – oh, yeah. Okay, it was our spotlight draft.
54:43And I took him in round six. Let me see.
54:46I think that was my number two receiver because I went McCaffrey, Hampton, Higgins, Javante, Lamar Jackson, Carnell Tate.
54:52I love my first five picks. But I got to the point where those top 26-ish wide receivers that I talk about
54:59all the time, they're all off the board. And I only have one wide receiver in a three – Jamie, three receiver league?
55:06Yes. Yeah. And I don't regret – I mean I have no regrets going McCaffrey, Hampton, Higgins, Javante Williams in round four.
55:13And then Lamar Jackson, who I can't pass up in round five.
55:16No regrets. But I looked at Carnell Tate. I just didn't love – I just didn't feel great about it.
55:22But, you know, who after – Brian Thomas Jr.
55:25went the pick before. I could have taken Marvin Harrison Jr., Jordan Tyson.
55:29Just looking at the guys who were drafted. Chris – I think Chris Godwin probably would have been my pick if I could do it again.
55:37Courtland Sutton, Josh Downs. Not a great – not my favorite area of receiver if you need your second guy.
55:43If you need your third guy, it's fine. But it's okay.
55:47You have to be loaded somewhere else. I think I'm loaded at running back.
55:51I think just something to keep in mind with the Titans.
55:54And I don't disagree with Dave. It was concerning because you've got to worry if Cam Ward can actually get it.
56:01But Brian Dable is trying to teach something different to Cam Ward.
56:05He's trying to implement a system that Cam Ward is not yet used to.
56:09And so those things are going to look ugly at times.
56:12You'd like it to look pretty at times. But it's also something like what Caleb Williams went through with Ben Johnson last year.
56:19It's basically training the player all over again. And so it's going to look ugly.
56:24And again, may still look ugly for weeks, for months, maybe the season.
56:28Could get Brian Dable fired. Could get Cam Ward in the Kyler Murray treatment where he's out the door the minute they get an opportunity to.
56:36But hopefully he grasps it and starts to feel comfortable with it.
56:40And those players and that system can start to look like you want it to look.
56:45So that's one thing you want to see like growth over the course of the next game or two depending on how long they play these guys.
56:53Sure. And then also what you see out of joint practice.
56:56Like some of these things, like when you see – I say this every year.
57:01Like when you see quarterbacks throwing interceptions in camp, like some of that is they suck.
57:06Some of that is they're trying to make throws that they're not used to making.
57:10They're trying to run plays that they're not used to doing.
57:14And that's, I think, what we saw a little bit with this.
57:18To Dave's point, ugly that it was against 49ers backups, ugly that it looked as bad as it did.
57:23Should make you a little bit concerned about Cardinal Tate because maybe you don't get the high-end production that we're hoping for.
57:30But let's just see what happens over the next couple weeks.
57:33I mean he was missing slant throws and out routes.
57:37Yeah. I mean maybe that's a timing thing, but they've been practicing for a couple weeks.
57:41Why would that not be up to speed? Again, not to disagree with what you said.
57:46I'm just saying like – I know. No, I agree with you on a lot of what you said like about interceptions in camp and all that stuff.
57:55Everybody making a big deal about Jalen Hurts throwing an interception on social media.
57:59Like stuff like that I can separate from what might be real.
58:03Same thing with – there was an intentional grounding call on Cam Ward in the game.
58:08Like his reads were covered. He didn't want to get blasted.
58:11He lawn darted the ball. It's a preseason game.
58:14Who cares? No, I care because he almost fumbled that ball at his own goal line.
58:19He's got to stop doing that garbage. Well, sure.
58:22I didn't want to bog this down with that whole thing.
58:25But like you want to see obviously Ty Simpson come out and take full grasp of the offense that he's running.
58:32Yes. Great example. Versus Cam Ward a year in.
58:34Yeah. And okay, new system, new coordinator, all those things.
58:37You want to see the easy throws and the easy things get done.
58:41But it's still like he's processing something different. And hopefully again he's capable of grasping it.
58:46You could throw Mendoza in that same exact conversation.
58:49Carson Beck was great in his preseason debut. There you go.
58:53All right. I think it's safe to say, and then you guys, again, disagree if you want.
58:58But I don't think anyone based on – what's that?
59:01I don't think we're disagreeing. No, no. You don't even know what I'm going to say.
59:06I'm probably going to disagree. Cam Ward had the worst week of anyone in the preseason basically.
59:11I mean anyone who didn't get injured. Probably Jeremiah Love.
59:14No, like I said, anyone who didn't get injured.
59:17No. Yeah. It was bad, but again, we're not going to freak out over it.
59:21Do you guys think that Jerry Judy in Cleveland and Calvin Ridley in Tennessee are going to be annoying enough that they
59:28are going to hurt the value of the players that we actually want to draft?
59:33No. No. Not. Okay. More fallers. Let's go to Jamie's fallers.
59:36Christian McCaffrey, where did you move him to? Drake London on this list?
59:40Just one spot. Okay. Dave kind of alluded to it.
59:43Tua looked as bad as Cam Ward did. Yeah.
59:46Tua did look bad. So where did you move McCaffrey to?
59:49I moved McCaffrey to 12th. 12th overall. 12th overall.
59:52And where's London? London is now behind A.J. Brown, so just dropped him one spot, but a couple spots in the overall ranking.
59:59So I think he's like 22. And Jordan Tyson was the other guy.
60:03Tyson or Lemon? Tyson. Guys, Tyson or Lemon? Tyson.
60:06I think I have Tyson higher. So London is the tough one, man.
60:10I didn't. Yeah, I didn't move him yet. But it was ugly from Tua.
60:14And we saw the Kevin Stefanski offense in full force with, what, four of his five passes went to Pitts?
60:20Yeah. Yeah, that's, I don't even remember the other one that didn't go to Pitts.
60:25It felt like they, but yes. So, but again, London was off the field.
60:29As Dave mentioned, he played two snaps. Yeah, but it's two snaps.
60:33It's, to me, it's just kind of like a funny thing and not realistic of, oh, you can't draft Kyle Pitts because Drake London was, again, not playing.
60:42I can't, I'm not going to make that argument after two snaps.
60:45I want Michael Penix back. That's what I want.
60:48I was going to say maybe Tua would have looked better if London had been playing.
60:53But yeah, even Tua was like, I've got to be better than this.
60:57Did the Broncos play their starters? Defensive? They did.
61:00I'm pretty sure they did. I remember seeing Sertan out there on one play.
61:04So, yes. Who? Sertan. Sertan. Man, that sucked. Yes, Patrick Sertan.
61:08Yeah, I mean, they played Stidham because Bo Nix wasn't quite ready, but they played their starters, I think.
61:13And Court Sutton had a big game. It's no reason to panic yet.
61:17It's just, again, when you're close between a player or two, there are reasons to upgrade or downgrade.
61:23And I was close between A.J. Brown and Drake London, so I moved right ahead.
61:28This brings us to the pronunciation of the day.
61:30And this actually kind of cracked me. I'm going to need help with the cornerbacks in Denver, apparently.
61:36Yeah. Riley Moose. It really kind of cracked me up.
61:39When I was watching the replay of the Panthers-Bills game.
61:42And the Bills kick it off to the Panthers, and they say, Trevor A.J.
61:46on the return. And I go, oh my gosh, we actually have three A.J.s.
61:51I completely forgot. What could you imagine? Did Trevor change his name too?
61:55Yeah. Well, they're brothers. So. Hilarious. He was like, no, I'm A.J.
61:58Yeah, he didn't change it. He was saying it's always been that way, right?
62:03We were just saying it wrong. Yes. Yeah. It didn't change it.
62:06But it would be so. Could you imagine if there were a couple injuries in the backfield, that now Trevor A.J.
62:13gets pushed to do a starting spot? And I'm like, who do you guys like this week?
62:18A.J. A.J. or A.J. Well, again, it's. It wipes itself.
62:21LaFleur questioning love's availability. Like, that's brutal. What do you mean?
62:24Well, there's another LaFleur and another love. Oh, LaFleur.
62:27Oh. Right. Oh, touchdown there. Yeah. Whew. Way over my head.
62:31Oh, boy. Did you guys miss one? Which one?
62:33The name that you said on a show, Adam, that made me think of.
62:38Oh, the team name. We did a draft order for a league.
62:41And there was one that used the term TDs a little bit inappropriately.
62:45And Adam didn't catch on. Oh, man. Let's talk about Jonathan Brooks, actually.
62:49Chuba Hubbard out. Jonathan. I think Adam just, like, skips right past that.
62:53Yeah, let's skip that. I don't know if there's anyone else that you wanted to discuss.
62:58But it was starters versus starters for the most part for part of that Bills-Panthers game.
63:03And Brooks, he had two bad runs. And the left guard, I think, got destroyed on both of them.
63:09And it was not their starting left guard. I think Rob Hunt was out.
63:13So, yeah, I don't know. Is there anything to talk about here?
63:17I think we should all just be thankful that Jonathan Brooks' ADP didn't go up two rounds because of a 60-yard touchdown run.
63:24Good call. How about the fact that the Vikings— Can DJ Moore not call out defensive backs to try and hit him, please?
63:31Did he do that? Did he do that? Did you not see the play?
63:35No. I saw the play, but I didn't see him calling it one out.
63:40Oh, it was like an Oklahoma drill in real life.
63:43He called the guy over. He was like, come hit me.
63:46Oh, wow. I guess I only saw—I was watching his ankle.
63:50How about the Vikings running backs? We're all offseason.
63:52It's like, oh, Jordan Mason's going to be the starter, this and that.
63:56And actually, Aaron Jones was basically the starter. And they pretty much split evenly, Jamie.
64:01But we've been calling Mason a sleeper. Do you still feel good about that call?
64:06Yeah, for sure. I think it just means you shouldn't be discounting Aaron Jones.
64:10Because, again, Mason's not going to play on pass downs.
64:13You want to talk about the clear example of a first and second down guy.
64:18He's got 28 career receptions in his career. 28 receptions in his career.
64:22That's where Aaron Jones wins. And it's kind of been the drumbeat from the Vikings media prior to the start of training
64:28camp was, hey, this just makes a lot of sense.
64:31Let's play Mason on first and second down. Play Jones on—keep him fresh.
64:35Because he still can give you explosive plays. It's just why run him into the ground at 31 years old.
64:42So it was always going to be a split.
64:44It was never Jordan Mason's going to be this elite-level player.
64:48He has the chance to produce as a quality fantasy option because I think the touchdowns will be there for him.
64:54But there's a reason why he's still being drafted where he's being drafted.
64:58And it should be drafted, you know, in the middle rounds.
65:02Yeah, I think my concern with what we saw was if it's Jordan Mason on first and second down and Aaron Jones
65:08on passing downs, we can work with that. If Jordan Mason's sharing first and second down with Aaron Jones and Aaron Jones
65:15is playing passing downs, then it's really difficult. Yeah, and that's what happened.
65:19I don't know if Jordan Mason got any snaps on passing downs, but they both had three carries.
65:25Okay. Let's take a look. I thought Javante Williams had a good preseason week one because Jadon Blue had eight carries for 19 yards.
65:32Malik Davis had seven for 39. I don't know.
65:35Jadon Blue showed nothing other than what apparently he does decently in training camp and in practices.
65:40But I wonder if Malik Davis is going to end up being the handcuff there.
65:45So Jadon Blue? What's that? Wasn't Malik Davis the fourth running back to come in?
65:49Or the third? I think Phil Maffa played before him.
65:52Yeah, I don't know who's going to – like this is the worst – this is one of the worst backup running back situations in the NFL.
66:01It's got to be. I mean it's up there.
66:03Maybe I'm crazy, but it looks that way. And Jackson Dart thinks it's the Giants.
66:08Does anybody still care if Jordan Mason played any passing downs?
66:11I do. Third and seven, he was in. He passed protected.
66:15It was good. Second and eight, he ran left guard for a yard.
66:19I've only got one more. That's good. I've only got one thing to say.
66:23Well, that's probably not true. But one thing that I can think of right now.
66:28Ted Earl McMillan played 55% of his snaps in the slot.
66:31Jalen Coker, like 45%. So they moved those guys around, and I love that.
66:35That's awesome. Also, I have a segment here called Gary Drafts an Awesome FFT Team.
66:40And I thought it's kind of like if you have a late pick, you can pull this off.
66:46This was a 10-team league. I think it's possible to pull it off in a 12-team league, except for the quarterback tight end combo probably.
66:53But he went James Cook, Chase Brown, Devontae Smith, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Sam Laporta.
66:58I'm not sure you're getting Lamar Jackson around five in most drafts, but this is a 10-team league, so you could.
67:04Tony Pollard or Parker Washington at his flex. And he has Jonathan Brooks, Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, Ray Davis, and Brock Purdy.
67:11That is such an FFT team. And he said he got a D on the website he drafted on.
67:17I was like, I love this team. Cook, Chase Brown, Devontae Smith, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Sam Laporta, Tony Pollard, Parker Washington,
67:24Jonathan Brooks, Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, Ray Davis, Brock Purdy.
67:27I love it. No one rooting for you and Heath Spettmore.
67:30Absolutely. So Heath, you got to let him shave for the event.
67:34I think, look, I start growing it after the family function.
67:37There's going to be – Hold on. Hold on.
67:40When is the family function? How do you not know when the family function is?
67:45I keep forgetting to ask. It doesn't matter. It's in January.
67:48No. But if it's January 1st, you're fine. No, it's not.
67:51If it's January 31st, you're screwed. I know it's after like the regular season.
67:56It's like mid-January. Look, it doesn't matter. These are important – Well, it does matter because the bet may come down to
68:02week 18 in which case then you should have to start growing the beard immediately after.
68:07I'm not doing that. No. It's going to – This is the same outcome.
68:12If I grow it after the event or before the event.
68:15No. This is exactly what you do. It's the same outcome.
68:18This flamboyant, any bet you want, Devontae Smith will outscore his A-Flowers.
68:22If you name the stakes are the words that you said and then immediately you first start qualifying when he's going to outscore him.
68:30This is show business. If his quarterback stays healthy and in games he plays a certain percentage of the snaps that I determined.
68:37And also I'm going to alter the – what we're betting and I'll grow the beard a little bit later unless something comes up in February.
68:45Oh my gosh. What if my wife wants to go out to dinner in March?
68:49There's no way that you are going to do this.
68:52I'm not making the bet because you won't do it.
68:55We do have to make the growth you have right now.
68:59What? How much facial hair growth is this right now?
69:02Two or three days? That's two or three days?
69:05Yeah. You can't really see it because of the ring light.
69:08We have to have a few carve-outs for what if my wife wants to go out to dinner in March.
69:14Keith, it's March madness, man. I can't have a beard.
69:17All right. We got to go. We got to go.
69:20Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What's Heath doing if Devante Smith outperforms Zay Flowers?
69:25I've lost sight of this because everybody is so focused on the beard.
69:29He's donating $500. What I offered to do if Adam would make a bet and keep it was give $500 to St.
69:36Jude, but Adam doesn't like kids and he doesn't want to help.
69:39Oh, Jesus. First of all, we never said anything about me keeping the bet.
69:44The only thing was I had to make the bet.
69:47I didn't have to keep it, right? Remember when Adam didn't shave three lines in his head?
69:52Yeah. All right. I can't go ballistic anymore. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow with another episode with kind of a cheat sheet.
69:59If you missed any of the position previews or catch up on what you need to know, we'll talk to you then on Fantasy Football.
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