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1:59What a play! Can you believe it? It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
2:03Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
2:06He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:11Breakouts Bonanza on Wednesday, August 12th. We've got four shows for you today, breakouts at each position.
2:16Maybe we'll do defensive ends and cornerbacks later tonight or something like that.
2:20Sweet! Yeah. Yes. Why don't we start with a better position like quarterback?
2:24Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, everybody. Adam, Dave, and Heath here.
2:28And we have an awesome guest from Late Round Fantasy Football, JJ Zacharisen.
2:32Maybe your Twitter handle, at LateRoundQB, maybe change it today to at BreakoutQB.
2:36Yeah, maybe. Maybe we'll do that. And after, you know, 14 years of this handle, just for this show, I'll switch it over to BreakoutQB.
2:43Yeah, that probably won't have any negative effects for you or anything like that.
2:47But follow JJ. He's a terrific follow, terrific analyst, and frequent guest on Heath's show, or at least a semi-regular guest on Heath's show.
2:55Occasional guest. Occasional guest. And we're happy to have him here.
2:58I'm going to maybe at some point fly through some news and notes.
3:02There's some things you need to know, but let's get right to our breakout quarterbacks.
3:07And so I'm going to let JJ start. And you guys have a somewhat different approach.
3:12Like Dave and Heath have kind of earlier, early to mid-round guys.
3:15And JJ's going with some Late Ground guys. And at Late Round QB, why not?
3:20Shocker. Yeah. So who do you want to talk about today as breakout quarterbacks?
3:24Let's go with Tyler Shuck to start things and to kick things off.
3:28You know, when I've done analysis on career years that you sort of want to invest in in fantasy football, it's usually
3:35year two guys that do give you the lowest floor versus ADP and ADP expectation.
3:39But they also give you the highest ceiling versus ADP and ADP expectation.
3:43I think no better example than what we saw last year where you get, you know, Caleb had a great year.
3:50And Drake May obviously had the true breakout. And then JJ McCarthy did what he did, right?
3:55So you get the floor from these year two guys, but also the ceiling.
3:59And I am banking on more of the ceiling outcome for Tyler Shuck, who, you know, for a rookie last year, really
4:06did not perform all that poorly, especially within the context of that class.
4:10And, you know, you match him up against Cam Ward.
4:13I would take Tyler Shuck's rookie season over Cam, excuse me, over Cam Ward and his rookie season pretty much all day.
4:20You know, he averaged 19.6 points per game over his final six games.
4:24The rushing touchdowns there definitely helped him. But he also showed us that he does bring some of that extra juice with his legs.
4:31You know, in total, 15.8 points per game as a rookie, which is not a great fantasy stat line.
4:37But for rookie quarterbacks, we generally don't see very, very strong performances.
4:40And really, I just look at the system here and the ecosystem that they've built around Tyler Shuck.
4:46And that's what gets me very excited. Kellen Moore is obviously a fast-paced coach, fast-paced coordinator in the way that he coaches his offenses.
4:53He was an offensive coordinator for six years. Every single team that he coordinated was top 10 in plays per game.
5:00Last year, New Orleans in an inefficient offense for the most part, you know, until Shuck kind of took over.
5:06They were still 11th in plays run per game.
5:08And then they add Jordan Tyson to the mix, who I think could be a star in the league.
5:14You know, I have the ZAP model, which is my prospect model.
5:18And Jordan Tyson graded out as the best wide receiver in this class and really one of the better wide receivers that
5:25we've seen over the last decade or so. And I really love the pairing with Chris Alave, where Alave's more natural position
5:31is to be able to get downfield and be that down-the-field threat.
5:35You know, when they got rid of Shahid last year, he was kind of forced to be a shallower, more intermediate player.
5:42But I think that they want to ideally use him more down the field.
5:46And Jordan Tyson can be that shallower, more intermediate player.
5:49Really good against zone. Alave, very good against man.
5:52You get an indoor environment for the Saints team.
5:54I think the offensive line should be pretty decent for the Saints as well.
5:59So they're just putting Tyler Shuck in a very, very favorable situation.
6:02And I think this could be a really, really strong year for him.
6:06Yeah, you're talking about Tyler Shuck now, who's QB 20, I think, in ADP on Fantasy Pros.
6:12The other guy you're going to talk about is Malik Willis, who's QB 21.
6:16It just underscores how deep the position is. When you talk about these guys as breakouts, how does that translate to someone drafting in a 12-team-1 quarterback league?
6:24Are you saying put these guys on your bench?
6:27Are you saying these guys are good enough to just be your starters?
6:31What's the actionable advice? Because I think it's really relevant for Superflex, right?
6:35Like, definitely, you guys are going to want to use these guys.
6:39So what's the actionable advice when it comes to Shuck and Willis?
6:42And obviously, I want you to talk about Willis as well.
6:46But for 12-team-1 quarterback leagues? Yeah, so, I mean, look, I think that you have to read your league and read the
6:52room and understand what your waiver wire might look like.
6:55Because there's going to be plenty of leagues out there where Tyler Shuck's not even drafted, right?
7:01Like, where you don't have to be that aggressive.
7:03But if you're in a deeper format, I think it's fine to draft multiple quarterbacks.
7:08You know, Malik Willis, who I'll talk about. But, like, if you want to go after a Shuck or a Willis and
7:15you feel more comfortable pairing them with a higher floor with, like, a decent ceiling option, like a Bo Nix or something.
7:21Or a Brock Purdy or whomever, you know, I think that's totally fine and reasonable to do.
7:27Because the goal here is to understand that in a lot of leagues, your fallback plan is streaming the position.
7:33And I've been tracking streaming picks for the last decade.
7:36And you can get low-end QB1, mid-range QB1 production via streaming just based on looking at matchups and understanding where your league
7:42is at with what that waiver wire pool looks like.
7:45So, you know, it depends on where your league is at.
7:49Would I go into the season feeling uber confident that Tyler Shuck is my QB1 and I can't find anyone off the waiver wire?
7:56No. I think that you've got a plan for that.
7:59But I do think, you know, for all intents and purposes, like, he's a player that I would not be surprised if
8:06he breaks out in fantasy this year. I will say, like, just to maybe add a little bit of a hot take
8:13to this, not intentionally, in my projections. And I've got Shuck at QB14, so I absolutely love him at cost.
8:19I do think you can draft him to start for you.
8:22I would draft another quarterback, too. Probably someone like Malik Willis that has some upside.
8:27But I have Shuck projected for more points per game this year than Stafford, than Knicks, than Mayfield, than Mahomes.
8:33I've got him within a half a point of Lawrence, Herbert, Dart, and Caleb.
8:37I think he could add – there's no reason to think he can't be a top-12 quarterback.
8:42It's just, for me, how much of an efficiency gain does he get from Jordan Tyson?
8:47And does the red zone stuff, which often plagues rookie quarterbacks, does that stuff get figured out in year two?
8:53If it does, he could be a top-10 guy.
8:56They also didn't have much of a run game when he was starting, so he had to carry quite a bit of the load.
9:03And he also ran himself. JJ talked about that.
9:06And not that Travis HN is suddenly going to come in and just be an amazing running back.
9:11We know who he is. He's more of a compiler than an efficiency stud.
9:16But he's an improvement for them. And I think he's there to give them and compel them to run the football more
9:22than maybe they did last year when Shuck was a rookie.
9:26To his credit – and this is just another point.
9:29This is just another reason to draft him. Week one at Detroit, week three versus Las Vegas, week four versus Atlanta.
9:35Week two is at Baltimore. I don't know if I really want to start Shuck that week.
9:40But the other three games, I'm on board. And I think that you could look at Shuck and say, okay, I've fallen
9:47into a position in my draft where I need a quarterback who might give me something to start the season.
9:53I'm loaded at every other spot. You can look at Tyler Shuck and have him as a potential starter just to begin the year.
10:01And obviously, he's a stud as your QB2 and super flex.
10:04So Malik Willis is QB21 in Fantasy Pro's average draft position.
10:07And who do you like better, Shuck or Willis, JJ?
10:10I like Shuck more, especially from a median outcome standpoint.
10:13But look, Malik Willis, if you're in a single quarterback league, my question is why would you not just throw that dart at Malik Willis?
10:21I mean, we saw what he did in Green Bay in his three starts, 58 rushing yards per game, a rushing touchdown per game.
10:28That's 11.8 fantasy points per game with his legs.
10:31If you look back to 2011, there's been 25 quarterback seasons where the quarterback had seven or more points per game with
10:38their legs via rushing while throwing the ball 300 or more times.
10:41So they were the starter, but they were getting a lot of points via rushing.
10:46Of those 25 seasons, only three of them ranked outside the top 10 and points per game at the quarterback position.
10:52None of them ranked outside the top 20. And so really, I'm looking at this as and I've said this before and
10:59people sort of get a you know, they react negatively to it.
11:03But I think that Malik Willis, you're looking at a situation where in the past we've drafted Justin Fields confidently and fine
11:10as like a high end QB2 or low end QB1 at times.
11:13And we were doing that because when he's starting, he has been a usable fantasy asset despite the inaccuracies and how he's
11:20performed as a passer and a thrower of the ball.
11:23And with Malik Willis, you're getting that production on the ground.
11:26You're getting that floor production. I think he could be even more prolific as a rusher than what we saw from someone like Justin Fields.
11:34But then on top of that, you're just saying, look, we don't know what Malik Willis is as a passer yet.
11:40We just don't. There's not a big enough sample size to really look at and say, oh, I definitively know that he's
11:47going to be great or he's not going to be great.
11:50Now, I don't remember ever saying I've been doing this for a while now.
11:55I don't remember ever seeing a wide receiver room or a pass catching room as bad as Miami's is right now going into the season.
12:02And that's a huge, huge problem and potential problem.
12:05I get it. But at the same time, I think that you just have to lean into the volatility of him as
12:12a passer, knowing that the baseline is going to be there for him as a rusher.
12:17And what if he's just a good thrower and we just didn't know that yet?
12:21Right. Then all of a sudden there's a very, very real path to him being a top 10 fantasy asset because I think the rushing will be there.
12:30So to me, he's the easiest like, you know, value or dart throw on the board in fantasy this year.
12:36I think it's fine to pair him with another quarterback, again, going to what we just talked about.
12:41But just given the rushing production, he should be a strong fantasy asset.
12:45Yeah. And I'll make you feel even better because, you know, you can't remember a wide receiver room like this or pass catch room.
12:53But Justin Fields himself and I agree with you, but just Justin Fields himself in 2022, he was the number seven quarterback
12:59per game on a three and 14 Bears team whose leading receiver was Cole Komet with 544 yards.
13:05And Darnell Mooney played 12 games and he had 493 yards.
13:08And, you know, Justin Fields rushed for like well over a thousand yards that year, I think, or he was on pace for that or something.
13:16I don't know if Willis will get that. But, yeah, these mobile quarterbacks can overcome that in ways that the pocket passers might not be able to.
13:24All right. So that's Malik Willis and Tyler Shuck.
13:27We'll go a little more high end here with Dave.
13:30All right. Caleb Williams is your breakout. He's currently being drafted as QB 8 and he is going about 80th overall.
13:37So can he be better than that for Caleb Williams?
13:40Yes, he can be. I'm not ranking it like he's going to be.
13:44I think it's a step too far, especially with all the other quarterbacks that are out there who are established and have
13:50been in the league for plenty of years. Plus, Jayden Daniels and his rushing upside to put Caleb higher than what ADP says.
13:57But I love what I've heard out of Chicago this offseason about how he's trimmed his weight.
14:02He's running around without as much weight on him.
14:05Obviously, that makes him a little bit more explosive.
14:08We know that he's very much feast or famine when a play breaks down.
14:12But that's part of who he is. He's the ice man and he's able to put big plays on film when things don't go according to plan.
14:20And when things do go according to plan, he's fine.
14:24There is a little bit of an accuracy issue, but he'll run a little bit.
14:28I love Colston Loveland. I love Luther Burden. I'm expecting Luther Burden to play the majority of the season, if not all 17 games.
14:35I actually think it's a benefit to this offense with all the pass catches that they have that DJ Moore is out.
14:42So everything's concentrated a little bit more on their explosive guys.
14:46So Doonsay is certainly in that mix too, but obviously Loveland, Luther Burden, the running backs out of the backfield.
14:52Offensive line is one of the better units in the league.
14:55And obviously, to me, the biggest selling point of all is Ben Johnson is the play caller, the play designer, a guy who's very clever and creative.
15:03And I think Caleb Williams can take a nice step forward from the almost 22 fantasy points per game that he had last year.
15:11So for the panel here, here's my question. We look at quarterback ADP in CBS leagues, right?
15:16Josh Allen is in his own tier. Lamar Jackson is basically in his own tier going 41st.
15:21Josh Allen round two, Lamar Jackson round four. Drake May, Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels.
15:25Dak Press got ahead of Jalen Hurts. I don't know if it's surprising.
15:29It's a little maybe to me, whatever, but they're pretty similar.
15:32So you've got seven quarterbacks, Allen, Jackson, May, Burrow, Daniels, Prescott, Hurts.
15:36You do have Justin Herbert going as QB8 on CBS, but Caleb Williams basically tied with him.
15:41When you get past the top seven, is there anyone out of Herbert, Caleb, Dart, Lawrence?
15:46I'll keep going. Purdy, Stafford, Goff, whatever it may be.
15:49Is there anyone that stands out that should definitively be taken a round or two ahead of the rest of the guys?
15:56Or do you say this is such a big tier, Heath, that I like Caleb Williams, but I don't know if I like him better than Trevor Lawrence.
16:05I don't know if I like him better than Jared Goff or Brock Purdy.
16:09And I'm just going to skip him if I have to take him in round seven or eight.
16:14I'm going to try to make the case in just a minute or two that one of these guys is not like the other.
16:22And so I don't know if you want me to do that now or if you want me to do it when I'm doing my breakout quarterbacks.
16:30But I think the biggest problem for me is that Caleb is taken a round or two ahead of my favorite guys in this tier.
16:37And so I just never draft Caleb. Not because I don't think the upside's there.
16:42I think it is. I just think like Dave talked about how great he is or can be when a play breaks down.
16:49And a lot of times the play breaks down because of him.
16:53And I just don't, I don't trust him quite as much.
16:56He does have big upside. I think there's somebody else that also has enormous upside that is my, one of my two breakout picks.
17:03Doesn't everyone though? I mean, doesn't like. Right. You can make the case for almost anyone that's being, that has a top 10 ADP.
17:11I mean, maybe top 15 ADP. You know, it's.
17:13I think it depends on whether you're talking about theoretical or demonstrated.
17:17But yes, you could make the case for the next six quarterbacks to have top five upside for sure.
17:23That's fair too, because we haven't seen Caleb Williams have that like stretch of breakout games like we have with Trevor Lawrence.
17:30And that's why I hesitated to put Trevor Lawrence on the breakout list because I kind of feel like he broke out last year.
17:37And there is a part of me that thinks he can pick up where he left off.
17:42I'm a big fan of Trevor Lawrence, but that's someone who's demonstrated it.
17:46I think he's guy is someone who's demonstrated it.
17:49And we don't have that quite yet with Caleb.
17:52What we do have with Caleb is, is a safe floor.
17:55He had 11 games with at least 20 fantasy points.
17:58That's six point in the regular season, eight games with 23 plus it's building on that.
18:03It's, it's looking at Caleb and saying, all right, he was good last year.
18:07Can he, can he take that step? Like Trevor Lawrence did just using Lawrence as an example to be even better in his third year.
18:15And my, my hunch is that he will be.
18:17Okay. Yeah. It's a, it's an exciting group of, of quarterbacks.
18:21We'll get JJ's take on this in a second.
18:24Let's take a break here. So we'll talk about this tier and maybe like who's most likely to break out Jackson Dart.
18:30We haven't mentioned him yet. Second year quarterback who was awesome last year, Trevor Lawrence.
18:35Yeah. I mean, Trevor Lawrence had a really good year.
18:38Can he do even better? Let's see. What did he finish as last year?
18:42Like QB five or something. I don't know what I'll tell you in a second.
18:47We'll be right back on fantasy football today. He would, why can't I find this?
18:51He was QB. He was QB four overall QB six per game.
18:55There you go, Trevor Lawrence. So hard to see him doing better than that, but we'll be right back with more.
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20:13however long you think that tier is? Yeah. I mean, to me, I'm looking at that list.
20:18I'm like, why is Dak Prescott going as, you know, I feel like he should be in the same tier as these guys.
20:25Just, just given the rushing prowess. But yeah, I mean, look, I have them in a, in a tier, if I'm being
20:32honest, you know, the, the, I've dart in there, Justin Herbert, Caleb and Trevor Lawrence.
20:37I think that if I were to call one out as like the best value or whatever, I would just call out Lawrence simply because he's going last.
20:45But yeah, I mean, each of them are bringing something via rushing, you know, to their, to their profile.
20:51And you can see the upside case for, for each of them.
20:55You know, the, the, the Jags are very intriguing because, you know, like we were saying after their buy last week, they
21:01were the third best team in football and touchdowns per game.
21:05I mean, they were, they were cruising with, with the offense going through Parker Washington.
21:09So I'm probably most intrigued by, by T law there, but I can make the case for any of those guys.
21:16And I think Jackson dart, um, I've, you know, it's, it's kind of interesting because it feels like the, like, I'm kind
21:22of surprised the market is as in on them as on him as they are, but I think it's sharp.
21:28Like, I think it's the right move to make just given what I talked about earlier with year two quarterbacks and the volatility there.
21:36And realistically at quarterback, you should be just shooting for the moon.
21:39And you could very easily make the argument that there are, are very few quarterbacks with as high of a ceiling.
21:46If things really go the, the, the perfect way, you know, 90th percentile type outcome for a player like Jackson dart, very
21:53few quarterbacks who have a higher fantasy ceiling than, than dart does.
21:56If things go in the right direction, I have some questions about what the coaching is going to look like, you know,
22:03how much rushing juice he's going to bring just given what happened last year.
22:07But to me, you know, in the end, a player like that, it's kind of hard to just take away that element
22:14to his game because it's just a part of them.
22:17So, uh, and obviously Malik neighbors seems healthier too.
22:20So I think they all belong where they're being drafted.
22:23Um, so I, you know, I'm not going to hate on, on a, you know, a Caleb Williams breakout call because obviously
22:29he has the tool set and then the skills to be able to do it.
22:34Uh, yeah, I want to maybe, maybe at the end, we'll talk about dart.
22:38I want to make sure we have time for Heath's breakouts, two players that he wants to talk about, but I feel like maybe it's my fault.
22:47Maybe we've, the vibe that I've gotten from our show has been a little negative on Jackson dart.
22:52And honestly, the vibe and training camp right now has been a little negative on the giants offense in general, but he
22:59was so good last year without Malik neighbors, without Isaiah likely, which probably maybe I should be a little bit more optimistic.
23:05Yeah. Yeah. I just, I think the hardest thing for me with dart was it didn't feel like they were actually playing NFL football during that great stretch.
23:14And I just, it didn't seem replicable and I don't trust Matt Nagy to bring any sort of creative influence to the offensive game plan.
23:2238% of his fantasy points came from rushing, including nine rushing touchdowns.
23:25I, that part, especially, I don't think is repeatable.
23:28Nine rushing touchdowns in what, in what 12 starts.
23:31Do you, do you want me to speed through my breakout?
23:34So you can have some more Jackson dart time.
23:37You've got five minutes. Go ahead. I've got, I don't need five minutes.
23:41The first one is the obvious one, but it's, I feel like on a breakout show, it's important for it to be
23:48said that Jaden Daniels is in my opinion, the best breakout candidate at quarterback this year.
23:52You look at from week eight through 17 of his rookie season.
23:56And I, we should have prepared JJ. Like when we talk about fantasy points per game at CBS, it's six points per pass touchdown.
24:03So all of our numbers are going to sound insane compared to what everybody else does.
24:08But from week through eight through 17, he averaged 27.3 fantasy points per game.
24:13And I think it's important to contextualize that even further.
24:1650% of his passes in that stretch went to 34 year old Zach Ertz, Noah Brown, Olamide Zaccheaus, or De'Ami Brown.
24:22He now has Tefond Diggs, Chigo Conquo, which I'd listen.
24:25I don't want to poo poo Zach Ertz too much.
24:28He was really good at getting to a spot, five yards downfield, catching the ball and falling down.
24:34Chig might do something after he catches the ball.
24:36And then Antonio Williams, who I'm also very excited about.
24:39I think the passing numbers could be even better than they were during that stretch.
24:44In his career, he's played 20 games with an 80% snap share.
24:48He's averaged 9.3 rushes per game and 5.7 yards per carry with a 4% rush touchdown rate.
24:53Those types of numbers are 7.5 fantasy points per game just from running.
24:57Now, maybe he runs just a little bit less to try to stay healthy, but he should be one of the best rushing quarterbacks in football.
25:05I love the combination of Terry McLaurin and Stefan Diggs.
25:08I think they complement each other really well. I think the tertiary options are just a little bit better than what he's had in the past as well.
25:16There should be 0% surprise if Jaden Daniels is the number one quarterback in fantasy this season.
25:21Just a quick follow-up. Did you downgrade him at all with the Laramie Tunsil news being out for most of the season?
25:28I don't like that. I think what I did was I added somewhere between 5 and 10 sacks.
25:34And so I took away a few pass attempts.
25:36And I think it could possibly hurt the passing efficiency as well.
25:40This is one of the kind of mysterious offenses in the NFL where I think from the way they're talking, it could
25:47be really good and innovative and positive for Jaden Daniels.
25:50But it's certainly not a guarantee. And that's why he's being drafted usually as QB 4 or 5 at the end of
25:57round 5 and not where his upside would suggest.
25:59And the other guy is Brock Purdy. And he's been a top 11 quarterback per game in each of the last three seasons.
26:06And I think he's been top six per game in two of those three seasons.
26:11I brought it up before the show started. I think he might have the worst schedule of any quarterback.
26:17He plays a lot of very difficult teams and he plays a lot of absolute cupcakes.
26:22And I think like the open to his schedule is a perfect example of that.
26:26He has, I believe, the Rams and the Broncos in the first four weeks.
26:30And he also has the Dolphins and some NFC South team.
26:34The Raiders, I think. Oh, the Raiders. Even worse.
26:37So it's a very uneven schedule. But what I wanted to highlight with Purdy, because I think I get accused sometimes of
26:43my rankings maybe being too close to the median projection and having Brock Purdy at QB 8, honestly, knocking on the door
26:50of QB 7 is maybe a symptom of that.
26:53But I don't think people realize how much I have nerfed Brock Purdy's career efficiency and the pass ratio from the 49ers
26:59last year to get him to QB 8. They threw 574 passes last year.
27:04Brock Purdy, for his career, there's been 1,000 quarterbacks that have thrown, or 30 quarterbacks have thrown at least 1,000 passes since Purdy was drafted.
27:11He's 1st in yards per attempt at 8.6. 1st in success rate.
27:152nd in touchdown rate at 6.2%. 4th in fantasy points per game over that stretch, by the way.
27:20This is going to sound insane. But if the 49ers throw 574 passes this year, and Brock Purdy averages 8.6 yards per
27:27attempt with a 6.2% touchdown rate, he's going to be QB 1.
27:31That's 4,938 yards passing and 36 passing touchdowns. And oh yeah, over the last two years, his 17-game pace is 332 yards rushing and 6 rushing touchdowns.
27:39Because Brock Purdy, it gets kind of classified with Jared Goff, I think, and I have done this too, because they are
27:46the two guys that are just, I think everybody knows they're going to beat ADP, but nobody wants to draft him as high as they probably should.
27:54The difference is, Brock Purdy's not Jared Goff. Brock Purdy has QB 1 upside, and the way we really know that is
28:01because through Week 17 last year, Brock Purdy was QB 1 on a per-game basis.
28:05Oh wow. Oh, and the show here, but I made the point last night on our live stream.
28:11You had a point last year where Mac Jones was throwing to Jawan Jennings and Ricky Pearsall, and I think Jennings may have missed some of that time.
28:19You had like Demarcus Robinson in there. And the first four games of that stretch, Mac Jones threw for 279 or more yards in all four games.
28:28So schedule, whatever, like all the things you could point out against the 49ers, they just always get the job done.
28:34So JJ, thank you very much for coming on and for the great insight.
28:38Tell us how we can follow you and hear you and what to know.
28:43Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and on X at BreakoutQB.
28:46No, at LateRoundQB. You can find all my work over on LateRound.com.
28:50Yes, check it out. Yes, this is a, for those of you in the chat, this is a short episode because we're doing four of them today.
28:58Tight ends are coming up next with me, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
29:02We'll have Chris Harris on later to talk about wide receivers.
29:05Yeah, he's receivers. And Jake Seeley to talk about running backs.
29:08We'll talk to you later on Fantasy Football today.
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