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Fill in the Blank: Packers Top WR, ADP Surprises, Sleepers, Best Chargers WR, & More! (06/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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58 min
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Estimated from transcript
Jun 30, 2026
Published
Tue, June 30, 2026
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Topics
Christian WatsonLamar JacksonQuentin JohnstonRicky PearsallBreece HallTravis EtienneTucker KraftAlvin KamaraAntonio BrownCeeDee LambChigoziem OkonkwoChris GodwinFernando MendozaGeorge Pickens
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Alvin Kamara

NegativeUsage0:50

Alvin Kamara is unlikely to get many carries; the question is whether he'll take targets instead, but there aren't many running backs getting a lot of catches these days.

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Antonio Brown

NegativeBust0:47

Antonio Brown has a profile most similar to Brian Thomas Jr. as a potential disappointment; he had a higher ADP as a rookie than Brian Thomas Jr., and if Chris Godwin takes the slot role with easy targets while Brown works downfield and gets banged up, he could underperform.

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Breece Hall

PositiveUsage0:13

In the first six games with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets, Breece Hall was on pace for 96 targets; after the Devante Adams trade, he dropped to 72 targets pace over the remaining games, suggesting his target volume decreased when another elite receiver joined the team.

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PositiveProjection0:50

Breece Hall is in the range of the last running back the analyst is comfortable having as an RB1, going back-to-back with Kyron Williams on Fantasy Pros.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveProjection0:09

Adam Azer is willing to take the chance on Lamb finishing as a top 10 or top 8 PPR points per game receiver, citing his consistency last year and historically as a more consistent fantasy performer than George Pickens.

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Chigoziem Okonkwo

PositiveValue0:44

Chigo Conquo could be a good one to outperform ADP, and he's another name that will steam up once training camp opens with reports from Washington.

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Chris Godwin

PositiveRole0:48

Chris Godwin will go back to the slot and be a short area target and check-down guy—an easy button for Baker Mayfield.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection0:24

In a best-case scenario, Christian Watson could finish as a top-12 wide receiver, with potential for 115+ targets if he maintains his 23.5% target share from weeks 11-17.

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PositiveValue0:27

Christian Watson is going 54th overall on Fantasy Pros, which seems rich compared to Alec Pierce at 82nd, though Pierce is injured; Watson has similar efficiency metrics and could offer value.

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PositiveRole0:28

Christian Watson had a 23% target share in a six-game sample with high efficiency, and removing Dobbs and Wicks could help concentrate targets among Watson, Golden, Kraft, and Reed.

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PositiveProjection0:45

Christian Watson coming off a torn ACL is part of a pattern where there have been more success stories than expected from players returning from major injuries, suggesting the analyst may be too low on such players.

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Fernando Mendoza

PositiveProjection0:48

Fernando Mendoza is expected to take over as the Raiders' starting QB, with one analyst predicting he could start as early as week 2 if Kirk Cousins struggles in week 1.

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George Pickens

NegativeProjection0:09

Pickens' production was boosted by CeeDee Lamb missing games; when looking at weeks 8-17, Lamb was on pace for 156 targets while Pickens was on pace for 146, suggesting Lamb should see more targets going forward.

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Greg Dulcich

PositiveProjection0:55

Greg Dulcich is liked a lot by the analyst and could be a point of disagreement versus Chigoziem Okonkwo.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveValue0:40

Isaiah Likely is going 125th overall on Fantasy Pros and 113th on Draft Sharks (95th on CBS), making him tight end 13 and one of the best values at the position.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveProjection0:06

Jamison Williams finished as the number 12 wide receiver last year in overall PPR points, which surprised the analysts given the depth of talent on the Lions.

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Javonte Williams

NegativeProjection0:37

Javante Williams could struggle, which would lead to increased usage for Jaden Blue, though the analyst doesn't necessarily believe this will happen.

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Jeremiyah Love

PositiveProjection0:29

Jeremiah Love is likely to jump from outside a top-12 pick this year to a top-five pick next year, as he could have a mediocre fantasy year but show enough before Connor departs.

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Kenneth Gainwell

PositiveUsage0:11

Kenneth Gainwell had 32 targets and 24 catches on third down with Aaron Rodgers, highlighting the value of the third-down running back role in Rodgers' offense.

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Kirk Cousins

NegativeProjection0:48

Kirk Cousins will start a limited number of games in Las Vegas before passing the torch to Fernando Mendoza; one analyst predicts he'll be benched by week 14 after the bye week.

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Kyler Murray

PositiveProjection0:36

Kyler Murray will win the starting job in Minnesota and could be talked about as a top-12 quarterback, especially once people remember how much he runs with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison.

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Kyren Williams

PositiveProjection0:50

Kyron Williams is in the range of the last running back the analyst is comfortable having as an RB1, going back-to-back with Breece Hall on Fantasy Pros.

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Lamar Jackson

PositiveProjection0:21

Dave Richard makes a case that Lamar Jackson could be the second QB off the board in fantasy, behind only Josh Allen, citing his impressive passing when healthy, scrambling ability, and the Ravens' new offensive scheme with more play-action and creativity.

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Lamar Jackson could be the second QB off the board in fantasy, with a good case to be made for that role, especially with Miles Garrett out of the division for two fewer games.

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Lamar Jackson is the second quarterback off the board on Fantasy Pros and Draft Sharks, but a decent amount behind Josh Allen, creating a discount.

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Luther Burden

NegativeProjection0:46

Luther Burden could disappoint right from the jump given how many other players are getting targets in Chicago.

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Malik Nabers

NegativeBust0:47

Malik Nabers could disappoint coming off a torn ACL plus other injuries.

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Mark Andrews

PositiveRole0:20

Mark Andrews expressed optimism about the Ravens' new offense under Declan Doyle, noting it will use more tight ends and be totally different from what they've done before, which should benefit his role.

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Parker Washington

PositiveSleeper0:51

Parker Washington is a value wide receiver the analyst is hoping to sneak away with, fitting a short area receiver profile with high volume.

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Quentin Johnston

PositiveRole0:33

Quentin Johnston is better at creating explosives in the Mike McDaniel offense than Ladd McConkie, though McConkie may be better at shorter routes and after-catch work.

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Quentin Johnston is the better value between him and Ladd McConkie, as McConkie is being drafted ahead of Johnston despite Johnston's potential upside.

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NegativeBust0:52

Quentin Johnston will be steamed up into round six, and there will be some disappointed people with him.

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Ricky Pearsall

PositiveSleeper0:31

Ricky Pearsall is a post-hype sleeper with excellent per-target efficiency; in six games with 7+ targets, he had 85+ yards in five of them and is available later than similar players like Christian Watson.

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Ricky Pearsall has a 14.1-yard ADOT and could see that decrease if Mike Evans handles more downfield work, potentially improving his consistency.

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PositiveProjection0:31

Ricky Pearsall is a boom-bust wide receiver three who could win a week or go a month without topping 50 yards, but could put it all together for a really good year if healthy.

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Travis Etienne

PositiveProjection0:50

Travis Etienne is mentioned as a viable RB1 option in the same tier as Kyron Williams and Breece Hall.

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Travis Etienne Jr. will likely get more catches than Kyron Williams, with or without Alvin Kamara in the picture.

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Tucker Kraft

NegativeProjection0:45

Tucker Kraft as tight end five is a little nerve wracking; while he's participating in training camp and looks fine, coming off a torn ACL, we don't know he'll be the same until the following year.

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Tucker Kraft is tight end five on the board at 80th overall, which is a little nerve-wracking, though he is participating in training camp and looks fine.

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Wan'Dale Robinson

PositiveSleeper0:51

Wandale Robinson is a value wide receiver the analyst is hoping to sneak away with, fitting a short area receiver profile with high volume.

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1:46Get started today. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports.
1:50What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can.
1:54It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
1:59He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:05All right, it is Tuesday, June 30th, and we've got some fill-in-the-blank for you, and we're going to talk about Christian Watson's
2:13potential, which Chargers-wide receiver is going to benefit the most from a new offense, a post-hype sleeper, someone who failed to live
2:20up to the hype but now is going to make that big jump, and a lot more.
2:26And we welcome you. I'm Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Dave Richard.
2:30I guess not that much more. We do have a pretty cool stat about...
2:35Dave, it's about wide receivers, two stud-wide receivers on the same team, and being able to repeat that success, right?
2:42There's been anywhere from zero to two teammates of wide receivers that both finish top 12 in PPR points per game each
2:49of the last 11 seasons, 2014 through 2024. How many times have teammate receivers repeated as top 12 in PPR points per game in consecutive seasons?
2:58Obviously, that would mean repeating over that time span, 2014 to 2024.
3:02Twice. Heath says twice. Adam, are you higher or lower than Heath?
3:06Top 12. Hmm. I'm going to say... Wait, but I thought you said zero to two earlier.
3:12What was that? Zero to two per year. How many times has happened?
3:17Oh, per year. Per season. Yes. He didn't give us the total number.
3:21And we know that CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens were both top 12 on a PPR per game basis.
3:27I'm going to say three times. I'm going to say Chase and Higgins.
3:32You're saying over. I didn't ask you to start naming.
3:35You lost, Adam. Yeah, over. You kind of lose on this alone.
3:39The answer is one time. One time from 2014 to 2024 has a duo finished top 12 in PPR points per game back-to-back seasons.
3:48Can you name the duo? I'm going to guess you can't.
3:51And, Adam, you can guess Chase and Higgins, but that would be incorrect.
3:56Well, then I'll guess something else. I want Thomas Schaefer to guess.
4:00Ah, yeah. Diggs and Diggs. No, Diggs. Diggs and Diggs.
4:03Oh, damn. I was going to say... Dillon also did it with Jefferson.
4:08He did. I believe. Yeah. So, Adam Thielen... But they didn't repeat.
4:12Adam Thielen is the key to having two wide receivers in the top 12.
4:16So is Devontae Adams. Devontae Adams has done it a number of times with Jordy Nelson.
4:22I don't know. I don't think Garrett... No, not with Garrett Wilson.
4:26Overall with Garrett Wilson, but not per game with Garrett Wilson.
4:30And last year, overall with Puka Nakua. Devontae Adams has actually been...
4:34Dave's doing per game, which is great. Devontae Adams has been a top 12 wide receiver with a teammate two years in a row.
4:42Garrett Wilson in 2024 and Puka Nakua last year.
4:45That's raw EPR points. Yes. I had a follow-up to Dave's question.
4:49Not a complete answer yet, but we've begun the research.
4:53I talked about how there were like three or four pairs or trios of pass catchers that I had projected for over 65% of their teams off targets.
5:02Adam is now spitting pits to make a point.
5:05Well, it's what we do. We eat charries and we spit out the pits in front of people.
5:11We don't eat while we podcast. This is an idiotic way to try to prove your point.
5:17We do not eat. Who eats while podcasts? It's totally gross.
5:21One of the times I think I got the most angry at you ever was like a year into my career at CBS.
5:29And we used to do the baseball podcast like at eight in the morning, right?
5:34Like I'm still a little bit grumpy from being up.
5:37And I get on and Adam is eating like a bagel with cream cheese as we're getting ready to start the show.
5:45And like it was as if he was having a who can eat the loudest contest.
5:50This bagel and cream cheese is just smacking off of his yam.
5:54Anyway, yes. Last year, the top three trios in terms of target share percentage, AJ Brown, Devante Smith and Dallas Goddard had 68% of the targets in Philadelphia.
6:04Amon Ross St. Brown, Jamison Williams and Jameer Gibbs had 67%.
6:07And B. John London and Pitts had 64%. Okay.
6:10Happens a little more than we thought it did.
6:13Well, at least last year. And, you know, for the Falcons, they didn't really add anybody.
6:19And the Eagles subtracted somebody. And I'm sorry, what was the other one?
6:23The Lions. The Lions. Who they're just going to replace one of Jamo and Gibbs with Laporta.
6:29So. Right. That's the thing. But that one's sure.
6:32More a little more complicated just because Laporta's injury.
6:35Laporta's injury opened the way for Gibbs, opened the door for Gibbs and Jamo.
6:40It's amazing looking at these teams that had two top 12 wide receivers.
6:44It's amazing that the Lions were one of them last year in overall points, PPR points.
6:50Jamison Williams was the number 12 wide receiver last year, which blows my mind.
6:55And that's kind of one of the things with per game stats is that sometimes they can be influenced by the absences of the other receiver.
7:03And sometimes guys can be top 12 for the full season because they played 17 games.
7:09Oh, yeah. All the time. Right. Yeah. Right. So it's just you have to balance the two of them.
7:15Yeah. Yeah. But you can always add context to either one of those stats.
7:20I just think it's a little easier to add context to the per game.
7:25And if you have if you have an idea of, OK, this guy can average 15 points per game.
7:31I think you recognize he's not going to do that every single week.
7:36I think you recognize there will be some weeks where he smashes and some weeks where he's, you know, four catches, 45
7:43yards and you got to suck it up. But the bottom line is that it's a better representation of what a player
7:51might be able to deliver compared to, oh, this guy scored 331 fantasy points last year.
7:56You got to do math to figure out all that other stuff.
8:00I don't know if that necessarily says anything other than the guy played a lot of games and did pretty good in those games.
8:08Well, I also think that we're making the point that if you have two teammates who had great seasons at wide receiver, it's difficult to do it again.
8:18Very. Right. Yeah. 17 wide receiver duos. I've already said that now.
8:22That's the third time. One of them repeated top 12, four of them repeated top 15.
8:27That includes last year with Chase and Higgins finishing top 13.
8:31So kind of a technicality there. They were really close.
8:35Three others repeated top 20, one repeated top 24.
8:38So that's five, eight, nine out of 17 wide receiver groups.
8:41When they both finished top 12, they finished top 24 or better the following year.
8:47And I mean, it's history. It doesn't necessarily speak to anything specifically about lamb and pickings, but it does suggest, as you
8:54just said, Adam, that it's really, really hard to do.
8:57And I think it forces fancy managers to make a choice to either ignore this piece of history or accept that it's going to be really hard.
9:07And then choose your fighter, choose which Cowboys wide receiver you'd rather have.
9:11For me, it's lamb. He was more consistent last year.
9:14He's been more consistent for fantasy. I'm willing to take the chance on him finishing as not, not just top 12, but
9:22top 10, top eight in PPR points per game versus pickings who might fall off.
9:27And that being said, yes, I moved pickings down a little bit in my rankings, but I can't find a way to
9:34get them out of the top 12 yet. Yeah.
9:38Well, I'll also say that, you know, pickings production was boosted by CD lamb missing some games.
9:43So if you, for sure, if you just look at weeks, uh, not seven, I have it.
9:49No, eight through 17, the last 10 games excluding week 18, when they only played a half on a per game basis,
9:57CD lamb was wide receiver 11 per game. And George pickings was wide receiver.
10:01No pickings was 11 per game. Lamb was 13 per game.
10:05Right. Right. But I, if you just look at the targets, lamb was on pace for 156 and pickings was on pace for 146.
10:13The problem is in those 10 games, they each caught only three touchdowns.
10:18So I think they'll do better than 13th and 11th.
10:21Cause I think they'll score more touchdowns, but I don't know what the target split will be.
10:27You know, will it be 156 for lamb and 146 for pickings?
10:31If that's the case, I'm fine. Both taking both of them where they're going, but obviously we should expect land to have more targets.
10:39And pickings targets to be worth more than lamps.
10:42Fair. Okay. Um, all right. Uh, so that's, we're starting off with that stat about the repeat wide receivers.
10:49Also wanted to mention that, you know, I got an email yesterday saying, stop talking about third down snaps for running backs.
10:56They don't, it doesn't necessarily matter just because they're on the field for third down doesn't mean they're catching passes.
11:03And it's a good point. It doesn't necessarily matter for a lot of running backs, like Quint Allen, for example.
11:10Um, but it does matter. I think for Aaron Rogers running backs, Rogers has been fourth and first in running back targets
11:17per game on third down over the last two seasons.
11:21This is my favorite, my favorite Aaron Rogers stat.
11:24Yeah. It's just what he does. And it's since the tour of Achilles and Kenneth gain.
11:29Well, Kenneth gain. Well had 32 targets in 24 catches on third down.
11:34So that's why I thought it was important that yesterday to have that conversation about who's going to be the third down back for the Steelers.
11:42Cause I, I think that's probably the most valuable going into this season.
11:47It looks like the most valuable third down role, or at least one of them in the NFL.
11:53Really interesting. There's like a million things of what does the reunion of Aaron Rogers and Mike McCarthy look like, but I
12:00did think it was interesting over the last three years, Aaron Rogers running back target rate, 23.9%, 19.3%, 20.6%.
12:07Those that's definitely high for a quarterback. Like not quite best in the league over those three years, but, but maybe one
12:14of the years it was, but definitely high the last three years he played with Mike McCarthy, 14.9%, 11.7%, 15.9%.
12:21Yeah. An enormous difference. Is that just because he tore the Achilles and he's not mobile.
12:27And so now he just throws to running backs or, or a lot of those third down throws going to go to Michael Pittman.
12:35No, I think, I think he just doesn't, I think it's an old age problem.
12:40I don't think he wants to get beat up anymore.
12:43And that might be because of what happened with the Achilles, not the Achilles injury happened because of fierce hits that he took.
12:51I mean, it happened as soon as the season started practically, but I think as you see with older quarterbacks and older
12:59players in general, man, it's, they feel a little bit different when you, uh, when you take on a hit from somebody who's 15 years younger than you.
13:08And I think that's what it is for Rogers.
13:11And that's why he's getting the ball out quick.
13:14And I think that'll continue. All right. Last stat on that.
13:18If you just want to maybe look at Rogers with the jets.
13:22Okay. Coming off the torn Achilles, the first six games of the season, Brees Hall was on pace for 96 targets.
13:29Then they traded for Devante Adams. Now they have Wilson and Adams.
13:33Is that the same as Pittman and, and, uh, and Metcalf?
13:37No, but they led, I think they led the NFL pass attempts that year.
13:42So it's similar. And then Brees Hall in the last, I think he only played nine games, uh, maybe 10 games out of 11.
13:50He was on pace. He was on pace for, I think 72 targets, something like that.
13:55And he had 52 on pace for 52 catches, but you can see, I make the case.
14:01He's going to be really good. Rogers is going to be really good for his running backs to pass the game, but
14:09I'm now statistically giving a case sort of against it.
14:12And now that he has two receivers worth throwing to instead of just one last year that he might not throw at his running backs as much.
14:21He might, he might have three receivers worth throwing to.
14:25Yeah. I mean, it's possible. Um, but he just, he doesn't want to get hit.
14:30He gets the ball out super quickly. He throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage all the time.
14:36Um, you know, he'll throw to his wide receiver.
14:39His running backs just don't know how much, um, by the way, I was calling these water cooler stats.
14:46Jamie texted me and notified me last week that, um, I think it's the fantasy life newsletter has around the water cooler
14:53and they have some stats and stuff. Oh, it's not stats.
14:57It's like articles and things like that. So what do you think?
15:01Do I need to change it? Yeah. I think that certainly if, if, if one podcast is using terminology, then no other
15:08fantasy podcast can use the same terminology. We, we have a pretty exclusive rights agreement with the rest of the industry that
15:16we all agree that we get certain phrases and we don't share phrases at all.
15:21They better not use azer stats, Adam. Or maybe they should, cause then you could sue them.
15:27They won't. But Jamie said, quote, you stole it, which obviously I didn't do, but we can leave it as water cooler
15:34stats or we can go with group chat stats.
15:37Maybe you text it to your fantasy football group chat.
15:41There you go. I like that. What's worse? What is like evokes more angst amongst the listener?
15:47That's not what I'm going for. Standing around a water cooler at your place of work or being caught in a group chat.
15:54Oh, people like group chats. Oh, nobody likes group chats.
15:58I like my, I love my group chats. Thomas, we need a poll.
16:02Do you like group chat, group chats. But it needs to be okay.
16:07Because sometimes I like them and sometimes I don't.
16:10So I think it's a, it's a little, maybe it's like, do you, do you wish group chat, group chats existed?
16:17How about that? I'm good with group chats. I just don't necessarily participate in them.
16:22Comment from Mr. Scampers. I've heard another show use start or sit before.
16:26So, all right. We're going to take it. I haven't seen Mr.
16:30Scampers. Also, Mr. Scampers, I agree. That's the, that's the even worse part is like, if you are in a group chat,
16:38you can guess that half the people in it have it muted and aren't going to respond.
16:44Or it's a group chat that you don't care about and you've got it muted and you don't see this stuff.
16:51Group chats are the worst. I got so many group chats.
16:55I don't think it's worth going through this. This one group of friends I have like five different group chats for.
17:02It's pretty funny. But, all right. Listen, Beyond the Box Score, go to YouTube.com, search for Beyond the Box Score.
17:09They've got their own audio feed as well. Great content there.
17:12I think all of us are going to be making appearances on Beyond the Box Score.
17:18Jacob was listening to our, to one of our, yeah, this week for Dave.
17:22Okay, next week for me. Jacob was listening to one of our recent shows and loved our conversation about Trey McBride.
17:30And I was like, well, I talked about it for 30 minutes on our show.
17:35I'll come and talk about it for an hour on yours.
17:38So, I know we're going to do that next week.
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20:08I've already made my point and we've gotten the laughs out of it, but I feel like I have to eat them.
20:16Why didn't you eat them during the break? Yeah, that's what I did.
20:20I was looking through my notes. I was getting ready for the next segment.
20:25Well, we'll have another break coming up. Okay. I don't know if I can.
20:30Why don't you come back from break and then spit out the seed on the microphone for everybody to hear?
20:37So, I think we do have a fruit salad related fill in the blank a little bit later, I guess.
20:43Yeah, we do. We'll get to that. News and notes.
20:47Mark Andrews says the Ravens offense is totally different than anything we've seen or anything we've done, he said.
20:53He also said it's a scary sight when you see Lamar Jackson adding new things to his repertoire, which is not a
21:01word I like pronouncing, by the way. But I'm wondering what this offense is going to look like.
21:07I mean, are they going to throw the ball 30 times a game?
21:11Is this bad news for Henry? Is it just good news for everyone?
21:16I made the point with you yesterday on Express, Dave, because you wrote a great article about all of the 18 new play callers that we have.
21:25That Lamar Jackson was actually incredibly good with Todd Monken.
21:28I don't even know how he could be much better.
21:32But what do you think the offense is going to look like?
21:36He was good until he got banged up last year and then the wheels came off.
21:41We all remember that in the second half of last season.
21:45We know that they're moving on from the fullback.
21:48They're going to use more tight ends. Not only is Declan Doyle a former tight ends coach, but he has really embraced
21:56the idea of using multiple tight ends. I think that's probably helping make Mark Andrews feel better about the offense and his role in it.
22:04I do think there will be a little bit more creativity, a little bit more play action passing, more passing overall.
22:11And the way Lamar has thrown when he's been healthy the last few years has been really impressive.
22:17And then you tack on what he might be able to do, scrambling, designed runs on top of it.
22:24And there's a really good case to be made that he could be not the first QB off the board.
22:31I think Josh Allen's earned that title, but the second QB off the board, I can kind of dig into that a
22:38little bit, especially with Miles Garrett out of the division.
22:42Now two fewer games without him. Dude, I think that there could be some really good games ahead for Lamar Jackson, even
22:49though Declan Doyle is a first year play caller.
22:52So that's always something that you've got to be worried about.
22:56He is the second quarterback off the board on fantasy pros on draft sharks, but a decent amount behind Josh Allen.
23:03So there's a discount there. Pretty big news with the lions.
23:07They released cornerback Terry and Arnold, who was arrested last week on charges of arm robbery and kidnapping.
23:13And he's a good player. He's a first round pick the stats with him on and off the field last year.
23:20They're not dramatically different. They're a little worse with him off the field.
23:24He missed half the season. He only played eight games.
23:28Some of the games he left early anyway, but you know, I've talked about this a lot.
23:34Each of the last two years, the lions have started out, not really throwing the ball that much.
23:40And then their defense falling apart and they've thrown the ball a ton.
23:44So this is a, this is a big blow to their defense and jets rookie tight end.
23:50Kenyon Sadiq is expected to be ready for training camp.
23:53He had hernia surgery and hopefully back pretty soon.
23:56Okay, let's do it. Fill in the blank. I want to thank our Twitter and Facebook audience for giving us these fill in the blanks.
24:05First one comes from Jovan in a best case scenario.
24:08Christian Watson will finish as wide receiver blank. Like where amongst the wide receivers?
24:13What else would it be? Or like a top 24 wide receiver or wide receiver two.
24:18I'm not sure what Jovan's looking for. Yeah, yeah.
24:22Like he'll finish his best case scenario. Top half top number two wide receiver.
24:26Let's say wide receiver 16 overall. I was going to say that.
24:30Dave Jinx. It's so hard. Like what? What? In a Matt LaFleur, like best case scenario is still supposed to be somewhat
24:38like within the realm of possibility, right? Yeah. So in a Matt LaFleur offense, what is the best case scenario for a wide receiver's total number of targets?
24:47Well, let's. Is it more than that we've ever seen?
24:51I broke it down, actually. Sort of. Remember, best case scenario for Christian Watson.
24:56From weeks 11 through 17, he had a 23.5% target share.
24:59Um, and he did that. 15.1 PPR points per game.
25:03I did that. He did that while running only 69.1% of the routes.
25:07But a 23.5% target share. That's a very good target per out run rate.
25:12He left one of those games early with an injury.
25:15When he came back the next two weeks, he was somewhat limited.
25:19But still, 23.5% target share. What does that look like in the Jordan Love era?
25:24Over the last three seasons, based on the amount of pass attempts the Packers have had, a 23.5% target share would have been 137, 113, and 115 targets.
25:34Considering Watson was a top 20 wide receiver last year, and he was only on pace for 94 targets.
25:40If he gets 115 targets, this has been a guy who's been one of the most efficient wide receivers in the NFL.
25:48He's going to say he hasn't done it on that many targets.
25:52That's 100% true. But if he gets 115 targets, I think the best case scenario is even better than wide receiver 16.
25:59Well, if you believe, like last year he had 55 targets, averaged 11.1 yards per target.
26:05And scored six times on 55 targets. So, yes, if he had 130 targets and scored 15 touchdowns on those 130 targets
26:12and averaged 11 yards per target, he would be the best wide receiver in fantasy football.
26:18I said 115 targets. I don't think he's going to get 130.
26:22He had a 15.5-yard ADOT. No one's getting 130 targets with that.
26:26Few people are getting 130. I'd probably say wide receiver 20.
26:30You know what? He has 17.8 ADOT. Yeah, sorry.
26:33That week 11 through 17 stretch when he had the high target share was 15.5.
26:38Yeah, that's high. But he still managed to get it done.
26:42Very up and down production in those weeks. There were three games where he was under 10 PPR points per game and
26:49four where he had at least 18 PPR points per game.
26:53So, boom-bust nature. I feel a little uncomfortable saying that he could be top 12, but let's say he stays healthy in
27:00the theory that you laid out, Adam. Yeah, he could do it.
27:04He could do it. So, I'm going to change my answer.
27:08I'm going to say top 12 wide receiver. Wide receiver 12 exactly.
27:12I think when you look at his profile, pretty similar player to Alec Pierce.
27:17And I think those two guys have been first and second in yards per target and yards per catch the last two years.
27:25And fantasy pros right now, Christian Watson is going 54th and Alec Pierce is going 82nd.
27:30Pierce is injured right now, so that's part of it.
27:34But you think about that, you want a little bit of a Christian Watson discount.
27:39It might be Alec Pierce. 54th seems a little bit rich.
27:43That's exactly where I have him in my top 200.
27:46And I get it. I agree with you, Heath.
27:49It's rich for a dude who's had so many injuries.
27:52But last year and in previous years, he's been a very high touchdown guy.
27:57He makes those splash plays. What about the idea of, all right, I'm nervous about drafting Christian Watson because I know he can miss some games.
28:06Could I also pair him with Matthew Golden later in the draft?
28:10Do the Acer friendship strategy? That's another term that in other podcasts isn't allowed to use, friendship strategy.
28:16Where you lock up, theoretically, the number one wide receiver on the Packers.
28:21Yeah, except that you do have the risk that it's just another Matt LaFleur offense.
28:26And Christian Watson has 98 targets and Matthew Golden has 87 and Tucker Graff has 86.
28:31And that's just what they've done. Yeah. But there was a six-game sample where Christian Watson got a 23% target share.
28:38So. I think. And Tucker Graff was out. Taking out Dobbs and Wicks, I think, helps people buy into the Packers passing game a little bit more.
28:47Maybe there will be a little bit more concentration among the targets between Watson and Golden and Kraft.
28:54And Jaden Reed, we can't forget about him, too.
28:57He's probably going to see an uptick as well.
29:00Well, I don't mind taking the chance on Watson.
29:03I think he does have huge upside, as we just talked about.
29:07Okay. You know what I think a good episode topic will be?
29:11Is let's look at ADPs of players on the same team and figure out who's the best value.
29:17Kyron Williams or Blake Corum? Christian Watson or Jaden Reed or Matthew Golden?
29:22That kind of stuff. Yeah, great idea, Adam. All right.
29:25Michael Patrick, fill in the blank. Blank will jump from outside a top 12 pick this year to a top five pick next year.
29:33That's an easy one. I can think of three young running backs that you can make the case for.
29:40Who? Gentie, Hampton. Gentie, Hampton, and Jeremiah Love. Heath, is that where you were going with?
29:45I was thinking Jeremiah Love, but yeah, Gentie. I mean, one of Gentie or Hampton might be a top 12 pick this year.
29:53No, but you're saying top. Oh, yeah, but it will be a top five next year.
29:58Right, but if they're inside the top 12 this year, they don't qualify, right?
30:03Yes. According to Michael Patrick's fill in the blank.
30:06Correct. Yeah, I would say Jeremiah Love's probably the answer.
30:09Okay. If he's the answer, then we should be a lot more interested in drafting him.
30:15Well, okay, I should clarify. The answer is probably blank because no one does.
30:20Well, I also think that Jeremiah Love could have a year where he's not that great for fantasy, but he shows us
30:27enough, and then Connor's gone next year, and then it's like wheels up, kind of big ADP boost.
30:33ADP. ADP. ADP. All right, this is from Eric.
30:36What happens after the cherries? Oh, man. Sorry. Can you talk for a second so I can queue up my Eric sound?
30:44Eric's got a question. Fill in the blank. Blank will be a post-type sleeper.
30:49Yeah. Who's a post-type sleeper, guys? Someone who failed to live up to the expected jump, but now we're going to get something.
30:56Well, Watson would qualify for that, would he not?
30:59Yeah. Quentin Johnston. No, you can't answer him. We have a Chargers question later.
31:04Next. Can I say the 2025 rookie running back class?
31:08Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Henderson especially. Yeah.
31:11I suggested Ricky Pearsall. In his career, Ricky Pearsall has seven or more targets in six games.
31:16Yeah. He has 85 yards or more in five of those six games, and in the other one, he had six catches, 69 yards, and a touchdown.
31:26Yep. He's really good per target. Last year, super high, very high ADOT.
31:30Not super high, but 14.1 yard ADOT. He would fall into that sacrificial X category last year.
31:36I wonder if Mike Evans does more of the downfield stuff, and Pearsall can get back to like a 10, 11-yard ADOT.
31:43He's definitely on the Christian Watts and Alec Pierce spectrum.
31:47Yes. Yes. And you can get them later than those guys.
31:50But I don't know. I don't know. What do you mean by that?
31:55Boom bust wide receiver three who could win you a week and could go a month without topping 50 yards.
32:02Yeah. Or could put it all together and have a really good year.
32:06If everyone's healthy, I think Pearsall's probably not going to matter much.
32:10But everyone being healthy is George Kittle coming off an ACL, Mike Evans at age 32 or 33, and Christian McCaffrey at
32:18age 30 coming off a 400-touch season. And so maybe the young guy, who's always hurt, by the way, can stay healthy.
32:25How many of those guys played more games than Ricky Pierce all last year?
32:30Yeah. All right. Ghost Kerrigan says, the Chargers receiver that will thrive the most under Mike McDaniel's system is blank.
32:37Oh, so you're expecting this answer to be Quentin Jones?
32:40No, whatever you want. I think it's Ladd McConkie.
32:43Route running, versatility, good hands, after-catch ability. He's already shown it to us over the past two seasons, just more so as
32:51a rookie when there wasn't as much target competition.
32:54And there's still going to be a lot of target competition.
32:57But for what McDaniel's looking for from this offense, I think McConkie is a great fit.
33:03Yeah. At its best, from my view, the Mike McDaniel offense is creating explosives.
33:08And I think Quentin Johnston's much better at creating explosives than Ladd McConkie is.
33:12How many of those explosives were created by not Tyreek Hill and not Jalen Waddle?
33:18And maybe that's an unfair question because those two guys, I mean, he had them, he used them.
33:24They put up some huge numbers, Tyreek, especially. I don't think he's got a Tyreek Hill on his team right now.
33:31Maybe he's got a Jalen Waddle. But, but if we're just saying like, who's the fast guy, Ladd McConkie slow.
33:38I, I wouldn't say slow. Is Ladd McConkie faster than Quentin Johnson?
33:42I think he's quicker than Quentin Johnston. He's definitely quicker and he can definitely change directions faster.
33:47And he's got better hands. Well, he ran a better 40.
33:51I mean, I think anyway, Quentin Johnson ran a four, five, two.
33:55Uh, let's see what that's not very good. I thought, I thought he was faster than that.
34:01Well, that's, you know, four, three, nine for Ladd McConkie.
34:04There was, um, there was a report, not a report, but like a speculation from a writer.
34:10It said, Quentin Johnson is going to benefit because he's going to, he's been miscast as this Mike Williams X receiver.
34:17And Mike McDaniel is going to use him more on shorter stuff.
34:21And he's going to excel after the catch. I'm surprised that the report, I'm surprised.
34:27I'm sorry, Dave. I'm surprised the reporter picked Quentin Johnston for that.
34:31Cause I really think Ladd McConkie is better at that.
34:34Then Quentin Johnston is. Yeah. So what, what does this, and maybe it means nothing, but in their careers, both Ladd McConkie
34:42and Quentin Johnston average 4.7 yak per reception. Johnston's had an a dot two yards higher than Ladd McConkie.
34:48Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't know. I can tell you that in terms of explosives, if you look at McConkie's rookie year, he
34:56was like off the charts, making big plays. Um, I just think he's better than Quentin Johnston, but that, that doesn't mean that Johnston's not the better value.
35:05Cause obviously you're all taking Conkie ahead of Johnston, right?
35:08Yeah. Who's the better value? Oh, I think Johnston's the better value for sure.
35:13I don't, I'm not drafting Ladd because he's going before I'll draft him.
35:18Gotcha. Where's he going? round four is a guess.
35:21Three, four turn. Quentin Johnston. I'm good with that.
35:24In PPR, I'm good with that. Uh, all right.
35:27Next up from stumble bumble. And by the way, if, if I, I'm sorry, someone said in the chat, if I said Kittle tours ACL, I am.
35:36I, my bad. It was his Achilles. Uh, stumble bumble says blank will blank and people will be blank, blank, blank will blank.
35:44And people will be blank, blank. Stumble bumble. We'll ask a weird fill in the blank and people will be, uh, clueless with what to do with it.
35:53So I have one here. That, that, or that, you have one.
35:57I've got one. Okay, go ahead. Uh, Kyler Murray will win the starting job in Minnesota and people will be talking about him as a top 12 quarterback.
36:07I guess my only issue is, is anyone in the world not think Kyler Murray is not, is going to win the,
36:14well, I, I actually was on the, uh, the football guys dynasty podcast with Jeff Bell last night.
36:21And we talked about this because, and this was kind of a joke on Twitter, like the AJ Brown thing.
36:27Everybody knew he was going to be traded to the Patriots, but as soon as he was traded to the Patriots, his value shot up.
36:36Everybody expected that Rashi rice was going to get out of jail after 30 days.
36:41Cause that's how long his sentence was. But as soon as people saw him walking out of jail, his ADP shot back
36:48up, everybody pretty much expects Kyler Murray to win the starting job in Minnesota.
36:53But as soon as he wins the starting job in Minnesota, we're going to see a bunch of articles about, do you remember how much Kyler runs?
37:02And now he's got Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison.
37:05Kyler Murray could be a top 12 quarterback. Yeah.
37:08Okay. I accept it. So I'm going to throw one out that I don't necessarily believe, but I just want to see how you guys feel about it.
37:18This is a player that I feel like has fallen into this black hole of never being talked about on our show.
37:26Blank will blank. And people will be blank. Blank.
37:29Javante Williams will struggle and people will be adding Jaden blue.
37:32What do you think? I don't really think I believe that Javante Williams is going to struggle, but I do think that you're right.
37:40There was some talk early in the off season about how they were done with Jaden blue.
37:46And now it sounds like now what I'm reading and Dave, maybe you've seen something else.
37:52It's the Cowboys really want blue to be their RB too, but he, he can't be as bad as he was last camp.
38:00I think they want him to be the RB too, because he offers some speed that they don't have from any of their other running backs.
38:08Someone's suggesting Dan saying, Jeremiah love will split carries and people will be mad.
38:13Sure. Yeah, but we're expecting that to a degree.
38:16Yeah. It just depends on how much, how many carries he'll split.
38:20Okay. All right. Let's take a break. The fantasy football today will go to break and people will be very patient.
38:27And Adam will eat his cherries after this or during this.
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40:25Delicious, delicious commercial break. Kaden says, Blank will greatly outperform their ADP, and nobody will be surprised.
40:31Pick an old guy. Mahomes, Devontae, Mike Evans, Kelsey.
40:34Would you really be surprised if any of those guys finished top 12 at their position?
40:39I think, based on conversations we've had on this show, that maybe our favorite ADP is Isaiah Likely's.
40:45He's going 125th overall, according to Fantasy Pros, and 113th overall on Draft Sharks.
40:5095th on CBS, but tight end 13 for likely on Fantasy Pros and Draft Sharks.
40:55I feel like that's kind of like the FFT guy right now, and just one of the best values.
41:01Okay. Sure. I think some people would be surprised if he outperformed his ADP.
41:06When it's a name you know that's going later in drafts because of the Grandma Gilmore rule, and then they end up
41:14overcoming it, you're not going to be surprised. You're going to be like, yeah, I should have just drafted the really good player.
41:22Bill Van Sickle says, blank is the worst possible addition to any fruit salad, and the answer is bananas.
41:28At Dave Richard is disgusting. The fact that he called me disgusting for liking bananas really shocked me.
41:34I've always believed that bananas were very popular. You see them at every single buffet table that you go to.
41:41Not that you guys go to a lot of buffets, but I mean, look at me, you know I do.
41:48But they're not in a fruit salad, Dave. They're whole and appeal.
41:52I have seen them in a fruit salad, and the problem with them in a fruit salad is bananas, when sliced and
41:59mixed with other fruit and sit there for any period of time at all, they don't last like the other fruit does.
42:07They're going to start turning a little bit brown.
42:10They're going to get a little bit mushy. The rest of your fruit's going to taste like mushy banana.
42:16I think banana is a fruit that should be eaten on its own.
42:21How long is your fruit salad party for that to happen?
42:24Are we talking like an 18-hour layout? I've seen bananas laid out in a fruit salad, and they don't turn brown and mushy.
42:32So first of all, I mean, your takes on fruit salad have been necessarily agreed with all of them, but they've been really good.
42:40I mean, you didn't expect me to have a lot of fruit salad takes, did you?
42:46Not really. I mean, you really get like analytical about this.
42:50It's great. However, you say mushy instead of mushy, and that is interesting to me, and that I think is wrong.
42:57I think you lose points for pronunciation there. We should have a fruit salad tournament.
43:02We do have a fruit salad poll on YouTube, and it's pretty close.
43:06Oh, no, we have a group chat poll. Never mind.
43:10Do you like group chats? Yes, 54%. No, I'm with Heath, 46%.
43:14Okay. Thank you to Thomas for not putting yes, I'm with Adam, because there's no way that would have been winning.
43:21Um, but yeah, pretty close there with the group chats.
43:24All right. Look, I think, I think banana is fine in a, uh, in a fruit salad, Dave.
43:30It's, it's not the worst possible addition. I think grapefruit is because grapefruit's like a practical joke.
43:36It's not really a fruit. It's just horrible. Yeah.
43:39That doesn't belong in a fruit salad, but you, you put bananas with, with strawberries and you've got a delectable treat that everybody would enjoy.
43:48And not a banana milkshake. It's my go. Hell yeah.
43:51Back in the day. Yeah. That's the Sonic. Yeah.
43:54Oh yeah. And think about all the other things you could do with bananas, banana splits, banana smoothies.
44:00You can add it to your protein shake. And by the way, and it's the commercials.
44:06No, then I know a thing or two about those.
44:09Sam, Sam Davis, one of our other producers, Sam Davis, the third, he put up the YouTube poll about salads, about the group chat.
44:17Sorry. So Sam, thank you for not putting my name on the yes option.
44:22All right. We got a few more fill in the blanks.
44:26One is from James and he has four different fill in the blanks.
44:30So James says blank will outperform his ADP the most at tight end.
44:35And blank will be the biggest disappointment at tight end.
44:38It's probably likely in McBride. I, I suppose, I think pits can be a pretty big disappointment.
44:44We've seen that plenty of times throughout his career.
44:47Uh, where's Fannin's ADP? Fannin is tight end seven going 95th.
44:51Yeah, that that's, he can outperform that. And, uh, I think likely is a good one.
44:56I think Chigo Conquo could be a good one to outperform ADP.
45:00But he, tight end seems kind of deep this year with this next guy that I'm going to talk about as being a disappointment.
45:08I, I don't hate where he's going necessarily overall, but among tight ends, Tucker craft as tight end five little nerve wracking
45:16for me, but 80, 80 second overall, not bad.
45:19If you knew he was going to be okay, like he's participating in training camp looks fine.
45:25Would you change that opinion? Not really. Um, because you know what I'm going to say?
45:30I say the same thing every time. It's like, yeah, he's playing, he's, he's looks good, whatever.
45:36But when he's actually on the field, we don't know that he's going to be the same until the following year.
45:43Uh, I will say though, that everything we saw from Christian Watson last year, we talked about him a half hour ago,
45:51whatever he was coming off a torn ACL. It's true.
45:54There have actually been, as I dug into it a little bit and looked at guys coming off major injuries, there have
46:01been more success stories than, than I was aware of.
46:05So it does make me feel like I'm too low.
46:08If I'm just ruling out guys coming off serious injuries, they, sometimes they are better than, than I think.
46:15Um, so yeah, that's keep that in mind, but craft, like I expect craft to be, it could be at some point in training camp full go.
46:24Sure. Uh, I just don't know that he, he, he is another guy.
46:28He was on pace for like 90 targets or something like that.
46:32If that, I don't even know. Um, you know, he was a little unsustainable.
46:37All right. Next one from James blank will be this year's Brian Thomas, Jr.
46:42Highly touted young wide receiver who totally disappears. Hopefully nobody totally disappears.
46:46I don't think Ted a roll will totally disappear.
46:49I don't think a buco will do what he did at the end of last year.
46:55Doesn't have to be a, a second year, a second year guy.
46:59Well, where does Luther burden fall on this list?
47:02Are we sure he's just gonna be a house of fire right from the jump?
47:07He, he could disappoint just thinking about how, how many other players are getting targets in Chicago.
47:13Um, is Malik neighbors considered young? Yes. Yes. Could he disappoint coming off of a torn ACL plus other stuff?
47:19Yes. Yeah. I don't, I don't want it to be any of the second year guys, but if I was looking for
47:27the profile that was most similar to Brian Thomas, Jr.
47:30It might be a book. A book actually had a higher aid on as a rookie than Brian Thomas, Jr.
47:37Did. If, if he just is, if Chris Godwin takes that slot role and has the easy targets and a book is
47:45working more downfield, it could be, and he's already been banged up and we've seen injuries impact him a little bit in his career.
47:53If he gets a little banged up and he's running 16 yards downfield every play.
47:58Yeah. Um, okay. Actually a good point. Yeah. Next up, but, but we expect a different role for a book.
48:05Right. Dave. I mean, that's kind of, I think he'll do more than just be the downfield guy.
48:11I think they're, I think they're going to use them in every way possible.
48:15Whereas Godwin and I think Heath is actually dead on on this, which made me appreciate the point is that Godwin will
48:23go back to the slot and be a short area target, a check down guy, uh, you know, an easy button as it were for Baker Mayfield.
48:32But I think a book is going to get a couple of layup targets and a couple of long ball targets every week too.
48:40All right. Let's go to our next one. Kirk cousins will start blank games in Las Vegas before passing the torch to Fernando Mendoza.
48:48I'm going to say week 14. Whoa. That's after their bye week.
48:53They'll be at home. There are, they have a lot of easy matchups early in the year.
48:58And then in the middle of the year, right when you might think that they would turn to Mendoza, they've, I think
49:06there's like one game against the jets in there, but there's a ton of tough matchups.
49:11I will, I will buy you. I will buy you a bunch of bananas done for two straight months.
49:18Done. Uh, if, if he's starting in week 14 or I guess week 13 or whatever week, 13 is there by, okay.
49:25If Kirk cousins is still starting at week 12 and Fernando Mendoza is healthy, one bunch of bananas per week for two months.
49:33And I don't have to give you anything in return.
49:36Nope. I feel very, first of all, bananas, what?
49:39$2, uh, two 50. So banana costs. No, a bunch of bananas is like two.
49:45Now you're talking about buying 15 bunches of bananas.
49:48All right. So that's like 10 weeks. So it could be like half your paycheck, 25, $30 here.
49:54I'll, I'll, I'll give my bold prediction week two Raiders.
49:57Kirk cousins is a disaster week one and the Raiders lose to the dolphins.
50:02And they just really pivot at home. And they're like, Oh, I mean, I think if it's that, if it's that close
50:09to being, that's the game of the week. Yeah.
50:12If it's that close between cousins and Mendoza, I think they start Mendoza week one.
50:18What better matchup for them than home against the dolphins for Fernando Mendoza to get his feet wet.
50:24It does not get easier than the Miami dolphins this year.
50:27All right. The last running back I'm comfortable having as my RB one is blank.
50:33Kyron Williams, Brees hall going right around there. Yeah.
50:36That's the range. Yeah. They're back to back on fantasy pros.
50:39Then Javante. Oh, Travis H. And I'd be fine with him.
50:43Hmm. Hmm. Like Camara is going to stick around.
50:46Isn't he? Maybe. I don't know. I don't like how many carries is Alvin Camara going to get?
50:52Very few. What, what if, what if he just takes the targets?
50:56That's the thing. Like he, how many, you know, that many running backs.
51:01I'm sorry, Dave, there aren't that many running backs are getting a lot of catches these days.
51:07So when you compare to Travis, ETN, Travis, HN to Kyron Williams, who's going to get more catches, probably HN with or without Camara.
51:15I have a chance predicted for four more catches than Kyron.
51:18Yeah. With or without Camara, the States can live with or without Camara.
51:23One of my favorite songs. the Camara, the Camara version, uh, from Bryn.
51:27Our last one is from Bryn. Bryn has three, the first tight, the, so many tight end ones.
51:33The first tight end I'm targeting is blank. Whichever one presents good value.
51:38No, but what, well, I'm not really targeting any one guy.
51:42I think my answer has to be Laporta. Cause he goes before pits.
51:46Usually I'm not targeting anyone specific tight end. I'm sorry.
51:49Yes, you are. Blank is the value wide receiver that I'm hoping to sneak away with.
51:55I got two. Okay. Parker Washington, Wondell Robinson, and they're the same kind of profile, short area receivers, high volume.
52:02I'm, I'm playing the fantasy game, not the who looks good in highlights game.
52:06I will say Terry McLaurin and Quentin Johnston. Yeah.
52:09I was going to say Quentin Johnston and on a high end, AJ Brown for me.
52:15You guys are going to steam up Quentin Johnston into round six.
52:19No, there's going to be some disappointed people. Uh, for my rookie draft, I should open up spots on my roster.
52:26Uh, blank. The draft happens. Oh, I get it.
52:29I get it. For my rookie drafts. I should open up spots on my roster.
52:34Blank. The draft happens after. Oh, ask Dan how that turned out for him.
52:39I would say the answers before. Oh man, that's great stuff.
52:43All right. Whatever is the least amount of work for the commissioner.
52:47Or you just don't have a rookie draft like Adam.
52:50That's true. There will be a rookie draft. I just, you know, the season is 10 weeks away or something like that.
52:58I only know that because is that right? That's sound right.
53:0210 and a half. Yeah. 10 weeks. Two days.
53:05I saw Scott Hanson tweet. I'll see you in 11 Sundays or something.
53:09I was like, Oh wow. It's coming up. How dumb.
53:12What a dumb thing to do. Tweet how many Sundays there are before the football season.
53:18I never see your tweets. Did he steal that from you, Dave?
53:22Yeah. Everybody stole it from me. It's why I don't do it anymore.
53:26Let's check in on our, uh, our fruit salad poll.
53:30It's not a fruit salad poll. Well, it's not.
53:33Yeah, dude, it's a group chat. Nope. There's a new one.
53:37It's a fruit salad poll now. Uh, uh, pick your ideal fruit for a fruit salad, bananas, cherries, strawberries, or grapes.
53:44This is very lopsided. I didn't say bananas were the best one.
53:48I would say strawberries. The answer I would too.
53:51I was going to say strawberries, but I feel like I listed grapes first yesterday on the show.
53:57So I felt obligated to pick grapes, uh, which came in second place to strawberries, which has 63% of the vote.
54:04Good. Uh, bananas though above cherries. That's the good news.
54:08Of course. Cherries are the worst. I think we established yesterday.
54:11The worst. I mean, they're great fruit. They're just bad for a fruit salad.
54:16Right? Because you have to eat fruit salad in public.
54:19You can't eat fruit salad in private. Exactly. What other show can help you win your fantasy leagues and help you set
54:27up a kick-ass fruit salad at your picnic? We have some more fill in the blanks from Wisco Disco.
54:33Blank is the worst type of bagel. Hmm. Sesame.
54:36Dry. What is that? A bagel without butter. A bagel without butter.
54:41Oh, right. Uh, yeah. I think like a chocolate chip bagel is revolting.
54:45A blueberry bagel is revolting. Oh, I love blueberry.
54:48Blueberry bagel with peanut butter. Mm. Mm. I'm willing to try it.
54:52I'm willing to try it. I'd be willing to try it too, but that's a contender for disgusting bagel sandwich.
54:59Yeah. I'll try it this week. I might try it today.
55:03Uh, Jeremiah. Uh, this is from the blank will blank and people will blank blank.
55:08Jeremiah level. Oh, we did that one. I'm sorry.
55:11Uh, this was from, this is from, uh, this is one of our tight end ones.
55:16Uh, Chigo Conquo will outperform his ADP. Yeah. We mentioned him.
55:20Does he have one? Yeah. I think he's in the tight end 15, 16 range.
55:25He's another name. That's going to steam up once training camp opens and the reports come out of Washington.
55:32It will really help him. If I do, does not end up with the commanders.
55:37Yeah. I think the commanders would be certifiable right now.
55:40If they like, like Brad, I think is not putting out a good audition tape these days.
55:46No, it's almost tampering. Are we going to argue, are we going to have a Greg Dulcich versus Chigo Conquo disagreement on the show?
55:54You might get there at some point. I do like Dulcich a lot.
55:58Yeah, baby. I like them both. Uh, I did not go to the store just for the cherries bit to answer your question.
56:06I went to the store the other day and bought cherries and they're great.
56:11It's almost like I don't want the show to end.
56:14We're having too much fun, but I'm going to end it here.
56:18Uh, Oh, also 9am tomorrow. Right? Yep. Well, how about 1130 AM today in like an hour and a half?
56:25Hell yeah. Matthew Rupert from the couch scouts coming on to talk about dynasty rankings, risers and fallers.
56:31He's also a big, um, Debbie guy. So going to ask him a little couple of questions about the 27 class and
56:39like what college players we should be watching early this season to kind of determine if those 27 picks are going to
56:46really be as good as we thought they are.
56:49Okay. Listen, if he, if he says water cooler stats, I'm going to come on the show and give him a piece of bye-bye.
56:58It'd be fantastic. All right. Uh, for Dave and Heath and Thomas and Sam, I'm Adam.
57:03Talk to you tomorrow, 9am Eastern on fantasy football today.
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