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0:21Fantasy, you in the 0601-0. What's up, friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football Alongside.
0:25Sorry about that, Mike Clay and Field Yates. My name is Daniel Dopp.
0:29Very excited to recap all the things that we're weak for in fantasy football.
0:33First and foremost, though, I have to tell you about the most athletic thing I have ever heard Field do.
0:38Oh. Or see. I guess you sort of. I didn't.
0:41I didn't see it. No, no, no. I did not see it.
0:44Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, as we walk out of this studio, we have a door that we push.
0:49And I have to push it out in order to get into a hallway.
0:53Yes. And Field notoriously brings into our studio two liquids.
0:56Mm-hmm. We have a thing of water. We call them a drink goblin is what we call them?
1:01Yes. Yes. So he has a water and then his little tea.
1:04I push the door open with Field directly behind the door.
1:08And all I heard was whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.
1:11Like it was the Matrix. And then he's just standing there holding both of them as I almost bowl him over, basically.
1:17Like a regular Darius Cooper yesterday. Oh. Billy. You only highlighted the Eagles off the day.
1:21Yeah. Actually, the Chiefs might need you at receiver next week as we'll get to.
1:25Oh, boy. We're going to dive into that. Thankfully.
1:28A lot of things to get into here. Yeah.
1:30All right. We're going to dive into each and every game as we always do.
1:35One of us is going to take the lead.
1:37And we're going to start with Cowboys and Texans.
1:40Mike Clay, that one's going to go over to you, my friend.
1:43Yeah. CeeDee Lamb, hashtag good at football. How about this one?
1:46I love it. Unbelievable. Stend Mike now. Is 21 targets good?
1:49Yeah. Yes. That's a lot. 17 catches, 189 yards, and a touchdown as well.
1:53He crushed it. He's an elite fantasy receiver. We're talking about him up there with, you know, I'm not going to put
1:59him quite on a healthy Jamar Chase or Puka Nakua or JSN just yet, but he's right there.
2:04I mean, he's right on the cusp. After what we saw yesterday.
2:07He's the NFL receiving yards. Yeah, he does. He's, yeah, I mean, look, he's led the position in fantasy points before.
2:13He could certainly do it. So he was awesome.
2:16Not much else to add there other than he's a superstar.
2:19If you drafted him late in the first round, you're feeling good.
2:22Javante Williams, if you got him, he was, excuse me.
2:25Uh-oh. Getting choked up about Javante. I know. So good.
2:28He means so much to you. A hat trick for Javante.
2:31So good to us. Yeah. Much like CeeDee Lamb just crushed it.
2:3419 for 62 and three scores on the ground.
2:37Also cut all five of his targets for 21 yards.
2:39Uh, one of them boring picks in fantasy drafts.
2:42It's just getting the job done week in and week out.
2:45We don't talk about him a lot because he's just one of the more reliable players in fantasy.
2:50Huge game in week four. Uh, by the way, CeeDee Lamb had a big game.
2:54Javante Williams had a big game. George Pickens only had three targets.
2:57Still at 75 yards. So I, I stand by this.
3:00I said it before. Just stay the course with him.
3:03He's going to still be startable. He's going to be fine.
3:06Uh, Jake Ferguson, though, we did warn you on this one.
3:09He was going to disappear. Hopefully you're not starting him just three for 11 in this game.
3:14So that's a Dallas side. Unless you guys have anything else to add there.
3:18They are pretty straightforward. They are. They're one of the receivers.
3:21And I understand the frustration of George Pickens manager.
3:23So we can have that conversation going into week five, but CeeDee Lamb, Javante Williams, Dak Prescott said it.
3:29Forget it. Move on. Yeah. Uh, Houston side, Nico Collins is back.
3:32Loved it. Fellas, he's healthy. Yes. Went off seven catches, 118 yards and two touchdowns on eight targets in this game.
3:38The guy's a superstar when he's healthy. We just have to stay on the field.
3:42We obviously debated that at length in the off season.
3:45I have official declaration on the board bet. Okay.
3:47It's a tie. It's a tie right now because he has missed 50% of his games this season.
3:52But in the two games that he did play, he was really good.
3:56It was amazing. Yeah. Both tie. Both tie. Yes.
3:58Tie for now. Uh, but he is, he is rolling.
4:01Uh, the only other, uh, Texan over 50 yards was Jalen Noel who had 85 yards and three targets.
4:06Obviously that's one big thing. The answer is a rotation behind him.
4:10We're not worried about that. Uh, and then to the backfield, David Montgomery, another dud.
4:14He played 58% of the snaps, just 24 yards on 10 carries, 19 yards on zero targets.
4:19Yeah. Somehow he had a lateral early in the game the week before.
4:22So no targets. That's going to crush it. And who got the goal line touchdown again?
4:27Woody marks. Woody marks. Jaquavius. Yeah. This is, uh, this is rough for David Montgomery.
4:31He is what we said he was. He's a flex.
4:34He gets it. Just enough volume in this offense to hang in the flex conversation, but the upside limited, obviously.
4:39And the floor is very low. Touchdown dependent in a major way.
4:42Yeah. Very good game, by the way. Very competitive.
4:45Very good game. Texans. Oh, and four. Oh, and four.
4:48Not great. No team. It'll be rough to come back from.
4:51Since the 1992 Chargers has made the playoffs after starting oh and four.
4:54They're the only team to ever do so in NFL history.
4:57I don't know. No, I mean like. Do you, do we feel like the Texans after watching the Bills and the Cowboys
5:04both put up a huge number of points? Is the Texans defense still the Texans defense that we would call it?
5:09No, I mean like we were talking about like benching guys entirely against the Texans defense.
5:14That is certainly not the case. Dak, 18.1 fantasy points on a monster day, but he was 335 yards.
5:19It was just that Javante Williams had those three touchdowns.
5:22Try to tell you after week one on David Montgomery, we're going to miss, I don't know, 100 things a week on this show.
5:29It's called being a fantasy football analyst, but it was the most obvious sell high that you will see in fantasy football.
5:35People got very mad. They got in their feelings on David Montgomery.
5:38If you did sell high on David Montgomery, bravo, because you may well have upgraded to a much more serviceable back going forward.
5:44Yeah. By the way, I think we should mention no major injuries in this game.
5:49And I feel like we need to say that because that's not going to be the case for a majority of the games we're about to talk about.
5:56A lot of concerns here. Yep. Let's talk fantasy about the Patriots and the Bills, but in reality, the Patriots went up
6:03there and said, don't house us out yet. Drake Bay with a vintage performance.
6:06This guy looked like the player we saw last season.
6:09He started out slow and sketchy this game field because he had a fumble and an interception.
6:14I feel like early and I was so proud of how he rebounded in this game.
6:18Yeah. The interception was off the hands of Romeo Dobbs, who I'm going to rename Romeo Dobbs.
6:23He's been renamed. You guys know him a Massachusetts guy.
6:26I've got tons of friends that are still diehard Patriots fans.
6:29We text all the time about the Patriots and especially on Sundays.
6:32And he has earned the nickname, the roller coaster.
6:35After yesterday's performance from Romeo Dobbs, which he had six catches for 58 yards and two touchdowns, nearly 24 fantasy points.
6:41After Mack Hollins also gets hurt. The Patriots are playing wide receiver in the second half with Mack, excuse me, Romeo Dobbs,
6:47DeMario Douglas, and Efton Chisholm as their three top guys.
6:50Chisholm makes the catch of the week ridiculous. Are you kidding me?
6:53To win the game for the Patriots. I'm not sure any of those guys other than Romeo Dobbs matter for fantasy.
6:59We'll talk about the Patriots receiver room more going into week five against the Raiders.
7:03The two positions that might matter for the Patriots in fantasy are Drake May, quarterback, and the two running backs.
7:08Drake May yesterday, kind of a reminder, you know, maybe part of the reason why I was under 10 fantasy points in
7:15weeks one through three is that I just played three elite defenses.
7:18Three very good defenses at the very least. The Patriots schedule gets a little lighter going forward.
7:23After playing the Bills yesterday, they're an offensive team, of course.
7:26But the Raiders this weekend, who have been good against quarterbacks so far this year, would not put the Raiders defense in
7:32the same category as Seattle or Pittsburgh or Jacksonville.
7:34On the running backs, so Drake will re-enter that top 10 quarterback conversation for week five with some better matchups beyond that as well.
7:41For the running backs, don't know how much we have learned from weeks one, two, to three, to four.
7:46Other than this, for Travion Henderson to pay off, he's going to need a long rushing touchdown.
7:51For Ramondre Stevenson to pay off, he's going to need either a goal line rushing attempt or a handful of targets.
7:57He got both of those yesterday. He played more snaps than Travion Henderson.
8:00Henderson had one more rushing attempt. Keeping my eyes on Ramondre this week because very late in that game, he left.
8:06I think the game was kind of, it was like there was like two plays left, so we'll monitor whether he is banged up.
8:13But if you're choosing between a Patriots running back, the perfect answer is probably starting a better backfield.
8:18Yeah. But it's hard not to lean towards Ramondre Stevenson based on how things have gone in three games with the two of them together on the field.
8:26It just feels like you're playing whack-a-mole, like trying to guess which one of them is going to get the big week.
8:32It kind of comes down to like, what do you think is more likely to happen in the course of a single game?
8:38Yeah. Goal line attempts for Ramondre and some targets, or Travion Henderson rips a 25-yard touchdown.
8:43I lean, it's like a 60-40 lean towards the former, meaning Ramondre Stevenson.
8:46Yeah. Agreed. For the Bills, DJ Moore leaves this game.
8:49It's one of the injuries that Mike was referring to is that same shoulder injury he's been dealing with.
8:54It doesn't sound like it's long-term, but it does sound like there's a chance next Monday night when the Bills go to L.A.
9:01to play the Rams. Huge game Monday night football.
9:03He will not be available, which would mean it's the Keon Coleman show, guys.
9:07Yeah, it has been. One of the cool stories, and I get it, the Bills lose yesterday.
9:12But Keon Coleman, by his own owner's admission, was basically a failed draft pick because the coaches got too involved in the process here.
9:19He was defending his GM, Brandon Bean. He'll be one of the waiver wire targets this week.
9:23He looked great yesterday. He did. He was awesome yesterday, was Keon Coleman.
9:27Dalton Kincaid, guys. Fool me once, shame on you.
9:29Fool me twice, shame on me. Yeah, this one hurts.
9:32Fool me three times. His route participation dropped dramatically yesterday.
9:35From weeks one and two are very different than weeks three and four.
9:39Yeah, Josh Allen had 33 passing attempts yesterday. Dalton Kincaid ran a total of 17 routes.
9:43For context, Khalil Shakir was most on the Bills at 27.
9:46While Keon Coleman will rightfully be a heavily targeted waiver person this week, doesn't it just kind of feel like this is
9:52going to be the offense that will rotate between some weeks it's going to be Dalton Kincaid and we don't know when.
9:58Some weeks it's going to be Keon Coleman. Some weeks it'll be the DJ Moore weeks.
10:03It kind of just feels like there is no number one alpha.
10:06There are guys that have stepped up when given certain opportunities.
10:09Yeah. But I don't think we are going to know week in and week out which one of them we can consistently
10:15count on outside of the DJ Moore, which we think we can if he's healthy.
10:19Yeah, I hear you on that. Until DJ Moore is back, I do think Keon Coleman's got to have some level of value.
10:26That game on Monday night should be a high-scoring one just because Buffalo can't stop anybody, it seems, right now.
10:31It's true. James Cook, the last thing I'll say about this Bills team unless you guys want to enter the chat is
10:37James Cook, steady day, 16.3 fantasy points, but we'll continue to say it until the cows come home between Josh Allen at
10:44the goal line and the Bills not throwing the ball much to James Cook and he had just two catches yesterday.
10:49His ceiling is capped. He can't quite scrape into that top five-ish running back range with the likes of Gibbs and Bijon
10:56and Jonathan Taylor and Kenneth Walker III who are just doing it at such a high level.
11:00Correct. By the way, Josh Allen, all-time leading touchdown maker for the Buffalo Bills.
11:04Scrimmage touchdowns for the Buffalo Bills. Not passing, just scrimmage touchdowns.
11:07Just touchdowns. That is unbelievable. Of all 32 franchise leaders, only one of them is a quarterback.
11:12It is, of course, Josh Allen. Back-to-back under Josh Allen-level standards for him?
11:16Yeah. We have a long ways to go and it's not like there's been a bunch of quarterbacks that have totally crushed
11:22it relative to where they were drafted. But if you are on the, it's okay to be patient at quarterback and not
11:28pay the full freight on Josh Allen, the fact that two out of his four weeks have been worth it is probably justification for that lineup.
11:35But there were a lot of victory laps after week two on reaching for Josh Allen.
11:39I'm not, and it was a little premature. You know, he has a history of this too, where when the games that
11:46matter most, they'll start running more and be super productive and put up huge numbers and then kind of level off a
11:52little bit and turn it over a little more and not be running as much and comes back to earth.
11:57So I thought that narrative was a little carried away.
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13:25Let's talk about the Rams and Eagles, my friends.
13:28A narrative that I don't want to be right is about Jalen Hurts just not being a good fantasy quarterback anymore.
13:34Guys, we obviously have... Real-life quarterbacks. This was a really tough one.
13:3712 for 27, 93 passing yards, two passing touchdowns.
13:40That bailed them out. Only had five rushes for 18 yards as well.
13:43Four designed rushes, four rushing yards on those designed rushes for what it's worth.
13:47Yeah, I do want to say that missing 40% of this offensive line, missing Saquon Barkley, missing Devontae Smith, missing Dallas Goddard against a very good Rams defense.
13:55So I do want to put that perspective out there.
13:58This was a very tough situation to be dealing with, but sometimes you got to carry your team and they blew this one.
14:04They had it in control. Up by 10 in the fourth quarter.
14:07I think I speak for all or most Eagles fans.
14:10With this t-shirt that I wore today, this is how it feels right now being an Eagles fan.
14:15Life was good. Life was good. It was good.
14:18It's not feeling good right now. They're struggling. Unfortunately, as a part of that, as you mentioned, Saquon Barkley got hurt, hamstring
14:24injury and ended up leaving this game. Doesn't feel great.
14:27So we'll continue to monitor that. Tank Bigsby also got banged up.
14:30He did. Yeah. So he left with like three minutes in the game.
14:34He ended up going to the locker room. No info beyond that as of right now.
14:38Nope. But it could be the Will Shipley show in week five, which is a game across the pond in London.
14:44I don't know when they're traveling, but we'll see whether Saquon and Bigsby even make the trip.
14:49Yeah. If there's no Saquon, do you think that there is a running back that you and I, we may talk about
14:55Will Shipley as a part of this. Would you want to start him this week?
14:59One of these two running backs? I think if both are healthy, meaning Bigsby and Shipley, I prefer Tank Bigsby because he's
15:05a very talented runner is Tank Bigsby. He passes the eye test when he gets opportunities here.
15:10He had 14 for 55 yesterday. Yep. Obviously, if he's out, then Will Shipley, just based off volume, I don't even know
15:16who their fourth running back is, Mike. Who is it?
15:19Yeah, they'll, I don't know. Good question. Yeah. Deuce Daly, I think.
15:22He gave it blue off the Cowboys. He's still on the practice squad, but obviously Dallas didn't trust him to make their roster.
15:28So Shipley's already been handling a lot of passing down work anyway.
15:32So if he's also going to get 12 to 15 carries, yeah, there'd be some interest there.
15:36I wonder if the Eagles might be like a sleeper team to go after a Tony Pollard or something like if Barkley
15:42just can't hold up this year, they might have to address it.
15:46And it sounds like the Saquon Barkley injury is serious.
15:49Yeah. Not like, hey, you know what? He tweaked it.
15:51He's going to be back practicing today. He's got a chance to play on Sunday.
15:56Like this one looked nasty. You could see it right when it happened.
15:59He pulled up lame. This looked like the Caleb Williams, looked like the Travis Achan.
16:03Caleb's timeline, three to four weeks. Achan going to miss at least four games, plus a fifth game because of a bye week.
16:10So this could be a month plus with no Saquon Barkley, who was already struggling.
16:14This Eagles offense is a mess right now. It is.
16:17Obviously not having Devontae Smith didn't really help in this situation.
16:20We thought maybe Devontae Wicks was going to step up.
16:22It wasn't him. Sorry. What did I say? Devontae.
16:25Oh, my bad. Dontae Wicks, we thought maybe it would be the rookie, Makai Lemon.
16:29It wasn't him. No, it was Darius Cooper. Michael?
16:32Yeah. I like this story, though, because he's the guy that they kept adding receivers in the offseason.
16:37Everyone had him as a cut, and it's like, Eagles love him.
16:40He's just stuck around for, can't talk today. He's stuck around for a while, and they like him.
16:45He finally got a chance yesterday. Yeah. I was just feeling tough.
16:48I understand you're choked up. Let's move on to talk about the Rams so that we can give Mike some time to
16:54be able to breathe for a second. Not quite to the Titans.
16:58Oh, not quite to the Titans, but we're going to talk about the Rams for a second here still.
17:03Matthew Stafford, not good. Not necessarily, but he did throw for 300 passing yards.
17:07That's the thing. Like, he had two interceptions, didn't get in the end zone.
17:11You know why? Because someone else stole all the touchdowns in this offense.
17:14Kyron Williams, RB1 right now on the week. 36.7 fantasy points.
17:1816 carries, 80 rushing yards, and two touchdowns. Oh, not done yet.
17:2113 targets. Yeah, what is that? For 10 catches and 67 yards as well, guys.
17:25Really good game script for that to happen, though.
17:28And the Eagles still have a good secondary. The Eagles defense still brought it yesterday.
17:32And when you're down big and you can't protect, you're going to dump the ball off.
17:36Kyron, what an effective player. Our colleague Bill Barwell made this point yesterday, by the way, about Matthew Stafford.
17:41Basically, like, we spent all this time litigating every – re-litigating Drake May's 2025 season.
17:46We should probably be doing the same thing with Matthew Stafford, given the fact that – and they're both now 2-2, and
17:52Stafford made some plays yesterday to help them win.
17:54But this was before both of those games yesterday.
17:57Correct. And it's like, Stafford hadn't been great himself.
17:59No. You know, if you're judging his MVP legitimacy last year, based off how he's played so far this year, the answer is not an MVP.
18:06He's also not a fantasy starter right now. No.
18:09Stafford, I mean, he's got a great matchup next week against Buffalo.
18:12But he has not been nearly the player he was last year.
18:16Yeah, by the way, Kyron Williams just continuing to remind us that the shiny new toy is not always better.
18:21Everyone – because Blake Corum's a little younger, everyone wants him to take more and more and more because he makes flashy plays sometimes.
18:28Kyron Williams, just unbelievable. And he was like this at Notre Dame as well.
18:32The only reason he fell a little bit is because he was so slow at the combine.
18:36And that usually – he was in the territory of speed at the combine that it was, like, guaranteed bust territory.
18:42And he has overcome that. He's not going to ever see even days like this.
18:46Those are probably career highs. He's never – I don't believe he's ever had a game like that.
18:51But he's still their primary pass catching, primary third down back, and terrific on the ground as well, as you pointed out.
18:58Two touchdowns. More targets than Puka, who came back and was awesome in this.
19:02He was amazing. I mean, Puka was ridiculous yesterday.
19:04And I don't think Devontae's pedestrian day, four for 32, is – hey, Puka's back, and all of a sudden Devontae is relegated.
19:10No, he had nine targets. Yeah, agreed. It was super rainy yesterday in Philadelphia for a lot of that game.
19:16The passing offenses were not crisp in the first half.
19:19All right, now let's talk about Titans and Ravens.
19:21Titans made this one a game, guys. They did 20 – well, they scored like a minute 12 left.
19:27They tried really hard at the end, guys. They do this most weeks now.
19:30They're starting to hang in there. Thank you, Michael.
19:33Thank you. There's progress from the first couple – That's all I was saying.
19:37I want to say the first even two and a half games, you're like, oh, no.
19:41And they just started to be a little bit – A little bit.
19:45They started to be competent. Yes. Coulda, woulda, shoulda here is sort of the interesting story of the Titans.
19:50First half – I'm sorry, first four games of this season.
19:53I think the only thing that matters for Tennessee is that independent of how the team is doing, Cardinal Tate looks like
19:59he's going to be a heck of a player.
20:02He had nine catches for 145 yards yesterday. Both obviously led the team.
20:05There was a cut-up going around on social media this past week of him just basically toasting D-backs left, right, and center
20:12and not getting targets on those plays, but still like a very talented player.
20:15One of those guys that could continue to rise throughout the season.
20:19Maybe the Titans offense steadies the ship. We are all on will Tony Pollard get traded watch.
20:24What I don't know is that if Tony Pollard gets traded, are we certain that Tajay Spears is going to step into a gigantic role?
20:30No. I don't think so. Yeah, same. Also because Tajay Spears, like Tony Pollard, going to be a free agent after this season.
20:37It doesn't seem like Spears is a big part of their future.
20:40I'm not going to stay on the field, a committee back.
20:43Nick Singleton will probably get a look. Yeah. So let's talk about the Ravens because they're the far more compelling side of this game for fantasy purposes.
20:51Derrick Henry does not get to 100 yards and a rushing time.
20:54One of our red zone questions yesterday. Hated that.
20:57I said no. He did find the end zone very early, so he has yet another day with 15-plus fantasy points.
21:02Yep. But Lamar Jackson gets hurt. Lamar leaves his game at halftime.
21:06And this was weird because I don't recall anything happening in the first half where all of a sudden Lamar limps off
21:12and we're immediately on Lamar injury watch. At halftime, the Ravens announce he's questionable to return.
21:16Snoop Huntley plays the rest of the game. Lamar is reportedly day-to-day.
21:20Adam Schefter had a tweet this morning. He's going in for an MRI today.
21:24We do not know the extent of this Lamar injury beyond that.
21:27We just know that whether it's Lamar Jackson, whether it's Snoop Huntley, Zay Flowers going to mash again, people.
21:32Yes, he is. Because, God, he's off to a red hot start.
21:36Eight for 118 yesterday for Zay Flowers. Found the end zone as well.
21:39I know we say this about a lot of athletes.
21:42They feel like they're playing the game at a different speed.
21:45But Zay Flowers really feels like he is playing the game at a different speed.
21:49So it's the Zay Show. It's the Derrick Henry Show.
21:52And if he is healthy, of course, Lamar Jackson Show.
21:55But Baltimore, kind of a three-man band. Mark Andrews did find the end zone yesterday, Mike.
21:59Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, it's about time.
22:02Although, he ended up with 13.7 fantasy points. That's his best game in his last 11 outings.
22:07So the ceiling is not what it used to be for Mark Andrews.
22:10But that's how we chase targets. Yep, sure do.
22:13All right. That was a great segue. That's how we chase targets.
22:16Like Chase Brown. That's right. Hey, Daniel. Let's talk about the Jaguars and Bengals.
22:20Unfortunately, in this one, I'm going to start with the big news, which was Jamar Chase getting hurt.
22:25Had a concussion. Yes, he did. Well, I'm starting with the first one, Field, and then I'll get to the second one.
22:31Sorry, sorry, sorry. Missed the second half. Jamar Chase, unfortunately.
22:34Tee Higgins went off in place of Jamar Chase and then also left on the final drive with an adductor injury.
22:40Have you ever had an adductor injury? You know, Daniel, I'm not quite sure what an adductor is.
22:45Me either. I guess. Yes, but I don't know that.
22:48No, Michael. I could trip over a duck. Is that what it is?
22:51That was a huge day for Tee Higgins. Let's just talk about this really quickly.
22:55He was unbelievable without Jamar Chase. 11 for 157 on 16 targets.
22:59215 air yards. Field that led all pass catchers.
23:01Sweet. Huge. That's why you had 157 yards. That's right.
23:04How about the actual yards? Those were awesome as well.
23:07Those were also awesome as well. Thank you. You have to be targeted downfield to get yard totals like this.
23:12Chase Brown also does the thing that Chase Brown does.
23:15You know how we just said Javante Williams, who just had 13 targets.
23:19Kyron Williams is going to not do that again.
23:21Chase Brown might do this again. 11 catches for 71 yards on 11 targets.
23:25This is in the bag for what it is that he does.
23:28This is wild. He had more targets and catches than he had rushing yards.
23:32Yeah, nine rushes for 10 yards, but he got 19.1 fantasy points.
23:36We love that. This is part of the reason why you drafted Chase Brown is the pass catching upside.
23:41Yeah. I mean, listen, he will find his way.
23:43He just will by the end of the year.
23:46We never said he was efficient on the ground.
23:48That's not a thing that we ever promised, but this team does score quite a bit, even though he didn't get in the end zone.
23:55So you love that from him. When you're looking at Joe Burrow, 23.7 fantasy points as well.
24:00If you decided to roll with him, then he was really great.
24:03Anything else from this offense from the Bengals? I don't know.
24:06My Raheem Sanders pick almost got there. Seven for 82 on nine targets for Dante Myers, but did not find the end zone.
24:13Played 90% of snaps. I feel like this year we're putting up big fantasy points.
24:17We are. But we're not getting to the end zone.
24:20Bram and Dante Myers. We'll talk about waiver picks tomorrow, but if both right now, like if you're in a league that
24:26has rolling waivers, you can grab guys at any time.
24:29Yeah. Both Dante Myers and Mike Gasicki should be on your radar.
24:32Gasicki has 12.7 or more fantasy points in three or four games.
24:35Yes, that's because he scored a touchdown in three or four games, but he's like 6'6", awesome athlete.
24:40Like, yeah. He has Joe Burrow as his quarterback.
24:43Touchdowns are more likely to come from Mike Gasicki than the average tight end.
24:47On the other side with the Jaguars, Basial Tootin keeps getting like a ton of volume.
24:5119 touches. Yes. Doesn't this just feel like the conversation we had on Thursday or Friday where it was like, it's not really a sell high.
24:58It's like a sell medium. That was it. That was it.
25:0211.1 fantasy points. He's a huge part of the offense.
25:04He does touch the ball a ton. He's there clearly.
25:07Although Chris Rodriguez was the one that got the rushing touchdown.
25:10On a nice long run. I keep pointing this out.
25:13It's his, he's very game script dependent. They are still using four running backs.
25:17He doesn't have much passing game involvement. Rodriguez is just stealing touchdowns.
25:20If they're in games where they're more competitive, he's going to, the ceiling is just not going to be there.
25:26And it wasn't there yesterday. He didn't score. He had a little under a hundred yards.
25:30So he ended up, how many fantasy points? 11.1.
25:3311.1. I mean, that's just what you're going to get.
25:35That's one of the concerns. I don't know if he's going to get like, is he going to be more than Tony Pollard?
25:42Like, I don't know. Like if the offense, they're just going to have to keep winning and leading and maybe they will.
25:48They're three and one. They're a good team. I'm just nervous about his ceiling right now.
25:52That's, that's my concern, but he is an okay floor.
25:55He's like a fringe RB too. I just feel like he's a hair overvalued right now.
26:00Brian Thomas, Jr. Jacoby Myers and Parker Washington almost combined for as many catches and receptions as Brenton Strange in this one,
26:06which was really great for fantasy managers that trusted either Jacoby Myers coming off of a big week or Parker Washington.
26:12I think we'll talk about him a little, little later on this week because he has started.
26:16I'm not sure that he is the elite high end wide receiver too, that we talked about him as when you look
26:22at his box score over the last little bit.
26:25So we'll dive into him. The past few games haven't been nearly as good.
26:29Just 23 passing attempts for Trevor Lawrence yesterday. So that explains a little bit of it.
26:33The Jaguars might need to play better teams for those two top receivers to have to actually like go off to do something.
26:40Parker did see a lot of DJ Turner for what it's worth.
26:4357% of his routes. He's a standout corner. So that could be part of it.
26:47All right. Let's talk about Cardinals and Giants. Who thought that there was going to be 60 points scored in this one?
26:53Well, maybe some of us. Yeah. 54 until the last second of the game, Mike.
26:57Yeah, sure was. Let's talk through some of this.
27:00We'll start with the Giants side since they won the game, guys.
27:03So Jameis Winston, 250 passing yards and three touchdowns, but two interceptions and zero rushing yards.
27:08So this is the full on Jameis Winston experience and just hard to see him being a consistent fantasy option.
27:13We're not really worried about that. But what we are worried about is what we said the day he was named the
27:19starter, which is can you get the ball into the hands of your skill guys?
27:24He's done that. Malik Nabors, six for a buck, 12 and a touchdown.
27:27He looked awesome. On seven targets. He did. He went down early on his shoulder and you're like, oh, don't miss time.
27:33But he was fine. Obviously had a big game.
27:36Also, we were a little nervous about Isaiah Likely without Jackson Dart.
27:39Well, we don't have to be that worried now.
27:4270 or excuse me, 77 catches because seven catches for 66 yards on 12 targets in this game.
27:47I posted this on X last night. Isaiah Likely is, I believe it is fifth or if you count Brock Fowler sixth
27:53in the NFL in target share right now. Wow.
27:55He is getting just pummeled with targets like you don't see from tight ends.
27:59Generally, he's up there in that tier with your McBrides and your Brock Bowers.
28:03So that's a good sign. He's certainly a lineup lot going forward.
28:06Malachi Fields, an impressive touchdown as well, but we're not starting him for the moment in fantasy.
28:11Just three targets in this game. Quick note on Cam Scadaboo.
28:14It is what it's been. You're getting the rushing volume, not the passing game work.
28:18You need a touchdown. 18 for 58. One target.
28:21He had eight yards. Played 62% of the snaps.
28:23It's not quite enough to be a fantasy star, but it's enough to consider him for your RB2 slot.
28:29I have a thought. You go first. I feel like he fits into a category.
28:33It's pretty large right now, which is guys that you're starting only because you have to start them.
28:38I wonder if it will be interesting one week for us to do the rankings where we just go until we get
28:44to the end of lineup blocks and we see how many names.
28:47I do that every week. That's what I do.
28:50I understand that. But I mean, like if you look at it in aggregate, right?
28:54Yeah. Like rather than you giving us the lineup blocks game by game, it's like you see, wow, Mike has nine lineup blocks at running back this week.
29:02The number is hopefully larger than that. Yeah, it's usually like 18 or so.
29:06But hopefully it helps you visualize it because it just feels like this year has been, I would say in some ways
29:12defined by a number of players that we're sitting here Monday through Friday being like, well, you don't really want to start that guy.
29:18You might not have a choice though. Like really running back so high and then goes like this and then just kind
29:25of levels off to all those guys. There's like a big tears of, of candidates.
29:29So I hear you. I know what you're saying.
29:31Tim Scadaboo seems like a younger, more exciting version of David Montgomery.
29:35I just want to like put that out there because if he doesn't get in the end zone, he's not getting like a lot of receiving game work.
29:42Like he's. Yeah, I hear you. I feel like they're using him a little bit like Derek Henry when John Harbaugh was
29:48in Baltimore in that way where he's getting all of this rushing volume.
29:52Although Najee Harris did have nine carries in this game.
29:55So, and did he score in this one? Or he got a goal line carry?
29:59No, he didn't score, but I think he had a goal line.
30:02Three fantasy points. Carry. Because it's not much in the passing game right now for Cam Scadaboo.
30:07Other side, guys, we were, we should have been higher on Michael Wilson.
30:11They paid him for a reason. He's the real deal.
30:13This guy looks awesome. Seven for 95 on 13 targets in this game.
30:17I believe he's up to 10th or 11th at wide receiver and fantasy points for the season after a little bit of a slow start.
30:24He's been great. Trey McBride, 12 targets. That's great.
30:2731 yards. Not as good, but. 12 targets, 31 yards and two cuss words from the ref.
30:31Yeah. Yes. How about that? Yeah, that's not great.
30:34So McBride, ho-hum. Keep firing him up. Marvin Harrison found the end zone early on in the day, but he had four targets.
30:40So don't take that as, oh, he's back. We can start him again.
30:44No, you can't. It's a mess right now. He's basically their fifth in line for targets in this offense.
30:49Found it very interesting that Adam Schefter mentioned him.
30:52As a potential trade candidate yesterday. I saw it.
30:54He had five names on his list, Adam. And three were wide receivers.
30:58Jerry Judy, Marvin Harrison, Brian Thomas Jr. I was wondering about Calvin Ridley as well.
31:02Ridley's the other one. He was going to be calling them this week.
31:05The Chiefs. The Chiefs. Yeah. Yeah. I was wondering.
31:08I mean, get me Jerry Judy to Casey. Or, well, really any of those guys would be fantastic.
31:13Last thing here, guys, for me is the backfield.
31:15Very disappointed. Air your grievances right now. Yeah. Jeremiah Love, 14 carries, 63 yards.
31:19He lost eight yards on his lone target in this game.
31:22He was out-snapped 34-29 by Tyler Algier, who had an impressive touchdown.
31:26I'll give it to him. It was like 20 yards out.
31:29It was a nice play. Don't. I will say this.
31:32I was very frustrated with how little Jeremiah Love was involved in the second half.
31:36But he did pull up earlier on in the half.
31:39So that might. He said it was fine after the game.
31:42But maybe he just. Yeah. That probably was why he was limited.
31:45Also, the coaching staff said that he. It was like they weren't going to use the running back in the passing game
31:51at all down the stretch and comeback mode. They just wanted to pass block.
31:55So Tyler Algier was out there to pass block.
31:57But it's disappointing. We want to see him utilized a little bit more.
32:01What might the trend I've noticed with Love is he comes out.
32:04He's averaging like seven yards per carry. Then you check in and it's down to six yards per carry.
32:10Then it's 5.4. By the end of the game, it's like 3.9.
32:13It's like going the wrong direction. They have to find a way to maximize him.
32:17And maybe getting involved in the passing game is how you do that.
32:21But one target is not going to cut it.
32:23He had at least three in the first three games of the season.
32:27So for now, fringe RB2. I mean, he's in that chair we just talked about.
32:31That's where he belongs for the moment. Yeah. I mean, obviously, we all had some optimism for any Jeremiah Love.
32:37We know Mike loved him coming into this. I think he'll get there, but it's not happening.
32:41Yeah. But, you know, like we'll see. Long ways to go this season.
32:45Long ways to go in his career. But this was one of the arguments against taking in third overall.
32:50Was that like you paid a serviceable running back?
32:53Yeah. This offseason, we'll see. But, you know, Arvel Reese or some of the guys that were sitting there available at number
32:59three would have been pretty intriguing in Arizona. Let's go to the Colts and Commandos over in London, Daniel.
33:04Colts and Commandos. That was pretty good right there.
33:07That one wasn't too bad. That's as far as I'm going to go.
33:10Colts win this one 30-13. And it was really mostly just Jonathan Taylor.
33:14What else is new? That's sort of what the Colts offense is right now.
33:18Now, 20 rush attempts, 95 yards, and two rushing touchdowns.
33:21Absolutely smashed. RB7 on the week so far. There's not a single pass catcher that we want in this one.
33:26Mike, Josh Downs, your guy, ran the most routes of all pass catchers, but it just turned into only four targets.
33:32Very disappointing. He, I have a feeling I might be spinning that wheel over there this week because Josh Downs is my wide receiver in that.
33:39I think it's clinch, isn't it? Is it? I don't know.
33:42I think it's clinched. I'd like to think so.
33:45I'd like to think so. I think it's clinched.
33:47I'm also clinching every time I start Tyler Warren because it is just not what I thought it was going to be.
33:53Clinching or clinching? Clinching. Clinching. Clinching. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I might be doing both.
33:57We'll see. But Tyler Warren, not terrible. You and I talked about this before the show.
34:02He fits into this conversation of like he hasn't been bad enough to have cost you at the position, but he's not
34:08done what he was billed to do coming out of the draft.
34:11It turns out the delta between Trey McBride and Brock Bowers on the rest of the field should have been about eight rounds.
34:18Much bigger. Like four rounds. Those guys are just aliens.
34:20On the other side, anything that you guys want to talk about?
34:24Because the offense right now really is just Jonathan Taylor.
34:26I know that Daniel Jones got in the end zone as a rusher.
34:30Yeah. Terrible. Thankfully. We need more from the passing.
34:33That's really the problem with Warren. I mean, he still had 9.1 points.
34:36He ran 25 routes. He was right up there with the team leaders.
34:40But when you throw for 143 yards on 34 attempts, it's not going to cut it.
34:44An incredible matchup. Yes. Yeah. Great. That's the problem.
34:47So we need better from Jones. On the other side, Marcus Mariota, one of our favorite streaming quarterbacks this week, got hurt very early in the game.
34:54Left with a concussion. Started great. Killing it. 46 yards passing in a 35-yard rush.
34:58By the way, in four attempts in one carry.
35:01It was so frustrating. Almost 100 yards. Not great, unfortunately.
35:04And the rest of the offense kind of suffered from there on out.
35:07To be honest, they only scored 13 fantasy points.
35:10Field, can you tell me how you say the quarterback's last name?
35:13Athan Kaliakaminas. Athen Kaliakaminas. Yeah. Okay, great. From Rutgers, right?
35:16Rutgers. Yeah, Mike probably knew that. Oh, yeah, of course.
35:19First Rutgers quarterback to throw for at least 3,000 yards since like 2003 last year.
35:23Okay. Offense didn't look great. Running backs didn't look great.
35:26Nothing there looked great, honestly, for the commander squad.
35:28I don't have a big takeaway from this game, but if there's no Marcus Mariota and no Jaden Daniels, most of this
35:34offense outside of, you know, a very good wide receiver is probably going to be a stay away.
35:39Yeah, Terry McCorn obviously missed this game. He got hurt late in the week.
35:43I think the only thing that I'm keeping an eye on, and I don't really think this is going to happen, but
35:49when you're 1-3 and you're really struggling on offense, is there any chance that like Austin Eckler might eventually work his way
35:55into the lead back role for this team? He was far more efficient than Bill Krosky-Merritt, who had nine rushes for 15
36:02yards, small sample size, but four carries for 29 yards for Austin Eckler.
36:05We're just sitting here talking about all these running backs that stink and have no value.
36:10Maybe Austin Eckler eventually creeps up the rankings. I'm not sure I'd buy that.
36:13Yeah, I think it might be a three. Remember, Rashad White's out, was out, so they'll probably use all three guys going forward, I would guess.
36:21By the way, Jaden Daniels did not go on IR.
36:23It's possible he plays next week. And it's also, I would say likely, Terry McClellan plays because he was pushing to play in this game.
36:30They ended up rolling him out, so good chance he's back next week, which is good.
36:35Yeah, the commander is not, actually neither team that played across the seas yesterday, across overseas yesterday, is taking their bye week next week.
36:42Let's talk about Jets, Bears. Guys, I owe Tyson Baygent an apology.
36:45He got the dub. He was good. I mean, yeah.
36:48I thought he was good. He was good. I thought he was really good.
36:52Yeah. He got the ball in the hands of the guys who wanted him to as well.
36:56Yeah, he also handed the football off to Kyle Manunga, he made it.
37:00A lot. A lot, guys. Let's talk about that, Michael.
37:03Yeah, let's do that. We'll start with the Jets on this one because I have a fun fact for you here.
37:09We'll be the judge of that. A reason why, I know your DFS lineup was stacked with Jets.
37:14You got burned by a historical low-volume game here.
37:16The Jets ran 32 offensive plays in this game.
37:19I saw it. I look back at the past decade, that is the second fewest in a game.
37:24The only one lower was the Raiders last year in week seven when they ran 30.
37:28I believe it was a blowout, lost to the Chiefs.
37:31Yes, it was. The bad news is that burned you this week.
37:34The good news is that it's not going to happen.
37:37Generally, on average, they're going to play almost double the amount of snaps.
37:40That's how extreme this was. So don't get too worried about this one.
37:44Obviously, there were duds across the board. Down game from Garrett Wilson.
37:47Kenyon Sadiq, that one stinks. Four targets, which was actually a good target share considering, but didn't catch any of them in this game.
37:54He did run 12 of 18 routes. Four targets was a 27% target share.
37:58That's ridiculous. I know. So this one is really unfortunate.
38:01It was just the defense could not stop the opposing running game, as we'll get to in a second.
38:06Had that not happened, you would have gotten maybe another 15, 20 plays at least and could have had a decent fantasy day.
38:12So really unfortunate. In the backfield, again, this one very inflated by them running.
38:1632 plays. Yeah, 32 plays. Braylon Allen out snaps Isaiah Davis.
38:1930-2 in this one. He had 67 yards and 16 touches.
38:22Davis will play more if they run a normal amount of snaps.
38:26But either way, we know who the lead back here is.
38:29If Breece Hall remains out, good chance he returns this week, but we'll keep an eye on that.
38:34If not, Braylon Allen in the flex conversation. Anything there?
38:37Nope. Not much to say after you run 32 offensive snaps.
38:40It was really bad. Bearside. Tyson Bajan, you mentioned it.
38:4225 of 34, 260 yards. Did not throw a touchdown because he didn't have to.
38:47Didn't have to. One interception in the game, he was fine, but we're not going to use him in fantasy if he starts again in week five.
38:54But a little bit of a hot hand in the Chicago backfield here.
38:58Monongai, as you mentioned, 30 carries. 146 yards. Two touchdowns.
39:01Was not involved in the passing game, so I'm still...
39:03Didn't need to be. He didn't need to be, but...
39:06I was going to say that. Here's the thing.
39:09I love you. He out snapped DeAndre Swift 48-32 in this one.
39:12I don't think that's going to sustain. It's generally been the Swift show.
39:16In this case, they just wanted to keep running Monongai with game script, and he was a hot hand.
39:21That fumbled, too. Yeah, that too. So I think it'll go back to the season-reliable veteran DeAndre Swift.
39:26So not getting too carried away, especially, again, because Monongai does not play a big role in the passing game.
39:31Yes? Sorry. I thought you were going to talk.
39:34I was ready for it. I am. I'm going to the receivers right now.
39:38So you were rating out in front of that.
39:40Roma Dunze, 6 for 94 and 7 targets. Luther Burden, 63 yards on 4 catches on 6 targets.
39:45I said that backwards. Colson Loveland, 6 for 57 on 9 targets.
39:49Got the ball to all three guys. Nine, 6, and 7 targets for those three guys.
39:53Quarterback controversy, right, guys? No. No. We like to see it.
39:56We like to see it. Those were fine days.
39:59Nothing I just said is spectacular. I think the one that gives me, that is most exciting to me, is Roma Dunze, finally.
40:05Like, a good game. They featured him. He played a lot.
40:08Had the 94 yards and 7 targets. It's good.
40:11It makes you feel better about starting him going forward.
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41:51The Bears are in Green Bay against the Packers.
41:54And speaking of the Packers, they improved to 2-2.
41:56But I'm not sure I've seen a more depressed locker room after a win in quite some time.
42:01They beat the Bucs 17-14. Wouldn't say this would qualify as a pretty one for Green Bay.
42:06Chris Brooks, the running back, got hurt. But this backfield is just a complete disaster.
42:10Marshawn Lloyd with nearly 10 fantasy points. But you want no part of it.
42:14The wide receivers were quiet yesterday as well. Matthew Golden bailed out by a short touchdown catch.
42:19But Christian Watson had his first real dud of the season.
42:22Because Jordan Love continues to struggle. 197 passing yards and 30 passing attempts.
42:25This passing offense just looks all out of whack.
42:28Tucker Craft got a touchdown yesterday. Initially ruled out of bounds.
42:31It was overturned upon replay review. But for the Packers, going into next week against the Bears, who have been better against
42:37bad competition over the past three weeks defensively, Craft will, of course, be one of our top 10 tight ends.
42:43And we'll still rank. Watson is a top 25 wide receiver.
42:46Golden a little bit further behind there. Yeah, I think they're both lineup locks at this point.
42:50I mean, Matthew Golden has a comfortable target edge on Christian Watson so far.
42:54He's not terribly behind in fantasy points anymore either.
42:57I mean, he's wheeling him in because he's a little bit more consistent in usage.
43:01So, and obviously Watson, the more explosive of the two.
43:04So, yeah, both of those guys belong in lineups right now.
43:07And Tucker Craft, right back in the back end tight end one conversation.
43:10As he gets healthier and healthier, he's going to be fine.
43:14And they have no choice but to throw the ball a lot right now.
43:17Yeah, that back end tight end one conversation unfortunately starts at like tight end three.
43:22Right? I mean, we've got two guys and the rest, they're in a very, very different category.
43:26For the Buccaneers, obviously the Jalen Daniels stepping in for Baker Mayfield of it all asks a lot of questions, right?
43:32Can he support any of the pass catchers? Well, the answer would be if you like 9.1 fantasy points for the most
43:38amongst your wide receivers and tight end, then sure.
43:41Otherwise, you're normal and the answer is no. Mecca Abuka yesterday.
43:443.3 fantasy points. Two catches, 13 yards. Jeff Darrington actually mentioned on Fantasy Focus Countdown.
43:48He did. Hey, he thinks that Chris Godwin could be in for a decent day.
43:52The Bucs allowing him to just do things after the catch.
43:55Yep. Wasn't a monster day, but seven targets was a team high.
43:59Six for 31. This offense is going to really, really struggle for as long as Jalen Daniels is the quarterback.
44:04And that might still be the case on Thursday night when they play the Cowboys, who we know are still a very, very bad defense.
44:11But Daniels, everything felt like it was very short, near the line of scrimmage.
44:15Bucky Irving ended up with 16 rushes for 61 yards.
44:18Zero in the passing game whatsoever for Bucky. And Mike alerted us.
44:21What happens when you have a more athletic quarterback?
44:24You don't see as many dump-offs. How many rushes were Jalen Daniels yesterday?
44:27Eight. They're 55 yards. And one more concern for Bucky Irving.
44:30Gainwell. Well, not even that. Gainwell scored a receiving touchdown, but they decided, hey, we need to use more Sean Tucker.
44:36And he scored the rushing touchdown. It's a problem.
44:39And it's Irving hard to bench with that rushing volume.
44:41And you have to imagine on Thursday they're going to try to get him a couple targets.
44:46But this is a tough spot right now. He's going the wrong direction.
44:50Yep. Kenny Gainwell did find the end zone, but still not close to our fantasy.
44:54Let's move ahead and talk about Dolphins and Vikings, guys.
44:57We're going to be pretty quick on this one.
44:59Go for it. There was one touchdown that was scored in this whole game.
45:03And it was by Ollie Gordon. Here's the thing about Ollie Gordon.
45:06Nine carries for 100 yards and a touchdown. And then also had two receptions on two targets for zero yards.
45:12Yeah. I think Ollie Gordon is more mirage than real with the way that he turned that.
45:17I just want to ask you guys when you see this game, because he scored 18 fantasy points.
45:22He's going to be RB 13. And he looked pretty good last week once he took over for Devine H.
45:27And people are going to have this emotional response to him looking good against the Vikings.
45:32Is this a sell high moment if you have Ollie Gordon on your squad?
45:36Yes, if you can. Absolutely. H. And obviously will miss the full year.
45:39So it's going to be Ollie Gordon's opportunity here.
45:42This might be the best game he has all season.
45:45They're the only team, no surprise, that has not held a lead for a single second all year.
45:50They have been tied or trailing every play this year.
45:52So Miami's game script is going to be not favorable to Ollie Gordon.
45:56The entire offense is a stateway. If Chris Bell's big toe was a quarter of an inch smaller.
46:01That one hurts too. For those that don't know, he had this awesome, explosive, long touchdown.
46:05It was ruled illegal touching because he had stepped out of bounds just prior to actually Just barely.
46:10Like by this much, my fingers are basically touching.
46:13By the way, Jalen Wright was the starter for Miami.
46:16They gave him a shot and then the hot hand was Ollie Gordon.
46:19He ran away with it. So, I mean, maybe next week Jalen Hurts.
46:23Or Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts has not been the hot hand right now.
46:26Maybe Jalen Wright is the hot hand. And he's the guy that leads the way.
46:31But I do expect him to try to utilize a committee going forward.
46:34So I'm with you. And also, he had two targets and nine carries.
46:38Yeah. Not great. Not like he had heavy volume by any means.
46:41On the other side, there was no Justin Jefferson in this one.
46:45We were looking at could Kyler look okay against the Miami Dolphins.
46:48The answer is no. No. 11.4 fantasy points. Was not good.
46:51Yeah. You can drop Kyler Murray. I do not believe he's in the streaming conversation.
46:55And Malik Willis, two potential sleeper quarterbacks. Both you can put to sleep for fantasy.
46:59Not going to be your starter. I saw someone on X post like.
47:03It's Twitter. On Twitter. Are the Vikings going to be the first 4-0 team ever to fire their coach?
47:08The offense is so bad. Like they're just hanging on on these games right now.
47:12How did they win? They scored five field goals in this one, right?
47:16Their best. Will the thrill has been. That's right.
47:18He is unbelievable. TJ Hawkinson actually was great in this one.
47:22Not very many people started him. 13 targets. 13 catches for 119 yards.
47:25Could have been 120 yards and a touchdown. Yeah.
47:28TJ Hawkinson at the end of the game took a knee at the one yard line.
47:32A lot of people were frustrated. I'm sorry by that.
47:35I think that might be because the Vikings have been so bad on offense that it would have at least felt good
47:41to win this game 22-10 as opposed to 15-10.
47:43But probably the smart play by Hawkinson. Could be something here with Kyler to Hawkinson though.
47:48Remember he kept Trey McBride busy in Arizona. Maybe there's something there with Hawkinson.
47:52At least something to keep an eye on if you need tight end help.
47:56And by the way, until Jordan Mason is back, which is soon, Aaron Jones showed 28 opportunities.
48:00Apologies if you mentioned that, but just wanted to.
48:03I did not. I thought he was going to get in the end zone.
48:0720 rushes for 94 yards against the Dolphins was less than I had expected for Aaron Jones.
48:12I don't know, but he's going to be in or very close to my top 10 in week 5.
48:17Yep. All right. Let's move ahead and talk about the Chiefs and the Raiders.
48:21A lot to talk about here. Let's just take a minute to appreciate the brilliance of Kenneth Walker III.
48:26How good is it have to feel if you're Kansas City where you spend big on one guy this offseason.
48:32Yep. And he's been unbelievable. Yeah. Walker had 177 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns.
48:36He's now right there in that territory of Jameer Gibbs and B.
48:39John Robinson. That's how good he has been for the Chiefs.
48:42Even with just one target and one catch for two yards yesterday.
48:45He's been so incredibly efficient running the ball. Other than that, a lot of question marks for out of this Chiefs team.
48:52Patrick Mahomes was fine. 17 fantasy points. Totally serviceable.
48:54225. It was like a very sporting 225 passing yards.
48:57Two passing touchdowns. No rushing yards. No turnovers. 17 fantasy points for Patrick Mahomes.
49:01So, Rashi Rice on his first target that ended up getting nullified because of a penalty.
49:05Catches a wide receiver screen. This is early in the game.
49:08You're like, let's go. We want this, right? Immediately grabs the hamstring.
49:12Lips to the sideline. Stays on the sideline for a while.
49:15And you're like, all right, maybe we avoided a disaster.
49:17Becomes questionable. They come out of the second half.
49:20He's now called doubtful. He eventually, or he never returns.
49:23Which they never ruled him out, but he never returns.
49:26They're on a bye next week. And some early reporting suggests it's not significant.
49:29It's more tweaked. That being said, a gigantic bummer.
49:32A guy who was trending all the way up.
49:34Gets you zero fantasy points yesterday. All right, well, Taequan Thornton steps up into a much bigger role.
49:39Best game of his life. Five catches, 111 yards, two touchdowns, and just a disgusting and so sad injury to see.
49:45Dislocates his ankle. You knew it was bad when you see it.
49:49He's going to miss a ton of time for the Chiefs.
49:52So it's now the Xavier Worthy and Jalen Royals.
49:54And who else show amongst the wide receiver catchers?
49:57I was just going to say Cyrus Allen. Everyone wanted him to happen in the preseason, so maybe now he'll get a chance.
50:03So the Chiefs' wide receiver room is incredibly thin.
50:06Now, if Rasheed Rice has a real chance to play when they come back from their week five bye, I don't think
50:12the Chiefs are going to be doing something dramatic right now.
50:15No, won't need to. But keep an eye on this name, who has already been mentioned and linked to the Chiefs.
50:21Tyreek Hill. Could he be back? And if you think there's a chance he could come back, and you're interested in beating
50:27him, beating somebody else to waivers to get Tyreek Hill, if you either have a Saint or a Falcon tonight left on
50:33your bench, or you have that is either not useful to you, or a Travis H.E.
50:37and you haven't moved that player to injured reserve yet, you can grab Tyreek Hill right now if you want.
50:43I'm not certain that's going to be happening anytime soon, but you can imagine that if it does happen, there will be
50:49a lot of people hoping that Tyreek Hill can rediscover some of his form.
50:53Is this what Patrick Mahomes is going to be?
50:55Like 250 and two touchdowns, give or take, you guys think on most weeks?
50:59Yeah. I know we talk about him as a potential starter, but unless he has the rushing upside that we saw a
51:05little bit last year, this is what he has looked like over the last two years more often than not.
51:11And I'm not sure that with what KW3 is as the running back here, and now that you see the pieces he
51:17has to throw to, I'm not sure that Patrick Mahomes is going to continue to be a top seven quarterback for us.
51:23He's lingering right around. Yeah. Once Walker cools down and he'll come back to earth to some extent, he's great.
51:29Don't get me wrong. Like, but he's putting up some extreme eight yards per carry.
51:33I mean, like, come on, he's going to come back to earth to some extent.
51:37Maybe that leads to more passing for Mahomes. I think he'll be a little better than this, but yeah, I mean, whatever.
51:43He's fine. He's a starter. We're fine to start him.
51:46Let's talk to Raiders here for a second. Kirk Cousins, once again, solid 22.6 fantasy points, 365 through the air and two passing touchdowns.
51:53There are two players that really matter for the Raiders in fantasy football, and a third that might be finding a way to hang around.
52:00Ash and Gentry, we had the good conversation late last week about the really inefficient running game and the really, really, really
52:06crafty and well-designed passing game, which one of those forces rules out.
52:09The answer on Sunday was the passing game. Six catches, 68 yards for Gentry on eight targets.
52:14That's awesome. Just 58 rushing yards on 15 carries.
52:16So under four yards a pop. He had 18.6 fantasy points.
52:19Mike and I had that board bet about him being a top 10 running back or not rest of season.
52:25Just have to love the scheme is actually tapping into a player's awesome strengths.
52:29Brock Bowers, my goodness gracious. Six for 86 and a touchdown yesterday.
52:32Yeah. I know we do this all the time.
52:35If you could redraft for the rest of the season, he's probably a top 10 player in fantasy football because in two weeks, he has absolutely smashed.
52:42If you guys had to pick between he and Trey McBride, I think it's pretty clear taking Brock Bowers right now because
52:48this offense is just better than Arizona's. Lot out, period.
52:51These guys are comparable talents. I'm not sure which one is more talented.
52:55It's very, very close. It's not a negative Trey McBride thing.
52:58It's more of like Cliff Kubiak. Clint Kubiak knows what he is doing with this Raiders offense, which also included 10 targets
53:04for Michael Mayer yesterday because all the receivers are hurt.
53:07Jack Bash got hurt last week. Jalen Naylor suffered a concussion yesterday.
53:10This Michael Mayer thing could be real for next week against New England.
53:13Yeah. Sometimes you have to adjust your thinking when you're evaluating situations like this because oftentimes you're like, think about Andrews and Likely.
53:20It's not like one's a receiver, one's a tight end.
53:23It didn't really work that way. Like Likely would play more if Andrews is out.
53:27Bowers doesn't affect Mayer. Mayer's their tight end. Bowers is basically a wide receiver.
53:31So when you're evaluating usage for these players, that's how you have to look at it and I've had to adjust my thinking when projecting target chairs.
53:38I'm pessimistic. Mayer is going to get enough consistent usage to be a starter consistently in fantasy.
53:43But Bowers obviously is an elite option. Okay. We have some news, by the way.
53:47This is perfect timing here. This is crazy. Adam Schefter just tweeted this moments ago.
53:51Developing. Tyreek Hill's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said he plans to begin negotiating a deal for his veteran wide receiver with multiple teams today.
53:58One of those teams with the Chiefs who have maintained contact with Hill.
54:01I would anticipate Tyreek potentially signing with the team over the next few days, Rosenhouse said.
54:06How about that? Yeah. Well-timed. Wow. Well-timed. Uh-oh. All right.
54:09Just your first reaction. Signed. You know, if you have a roster spot, do it right now.
54:13Yeah. Look, he's 32. I don't know if he's going to be a consistent fantasy option, but with this offense and with
54:19the opportunity, I mean, look, how high can he go?
54:22If Hershey Rice is healthy, I think he goes number two.
54:25He could be their number two wide receiver. Still have Travis Kelsey.
54:29You're still running it through Walker. So, I'm a little pessimistic this is going to be a guy you feel comfortable starting
54:35each and every week, but should he be on rosters?
54:37Yes, I do think so. Walk me through a quick exercise.
54:41Okay. We've got these two teams playing tonight. Yep.
54:43Would you drop, because you can only drop players from this team, right?
54:47We've got the running backs. Kendra Miller, Alvin Kamara.
54:49Would you drop either of those two guys? Not Kamara.
54:52Oh, man. Would you drop Devon Valet? Probably not.
54:54I wouldn't. No, not Valet. Maybe Kendra Miller. Kendra Miller would be dropped.
54:58I would keep Juwan Johnson. I would keep Devon Valet.
55:01I would keep Rice. Olave. I would keep Shuck.
55:03Okay. So, then on the other squad, I think that's it for the Saints, right?
55:07Ryan Robinson, yes. Ryan Robinson. You could drop Kyle Pitts.
55:10If you're not starting Kyle Pitts and you're just stashing him, that's impossible.
55:14So, there's a handful of names from tonight's game that you could maybe consider if you had them on rosters to try
55:20and get ahead of that waiver conversation. To reiterate, you can add Hill because he's listed as a free agent.
55:26Correct. He's not played a game. That's why you can just add him without waiting for waivers.
55:30I've got an interesting one here. I've got Kendra Miller and it's the war room league.
55:35It's just redonkulously thin at running back on my team.
55:37Four of my first eight picks are already out for the entire season.
55:41Now they feel sometimes. Trust me, it sucks. Yep.
55:44But Kendra Miller, we are down this week. We need a miracle.
55:47We need the greatest miracle in fantasy history. You have to drop him.
55:51What is the upside? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you.
55:54But what's the upside of Kendra Miller versus what's the upside of what Tyreek Hill could maybe be for Patrick Mahomes?
56:00Here's what it is. Kendra Miller might get you six to ten fantasy points a week.
56:04Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. And the running backs that will be available on waivers this week are going to be even worse than that.
56:11And we've been hammered by injuries. It's a tough one.
56:14You shoot for upside or you go for the floor?
56:16I said it's an interesting conversation. I think the answer is probably.
56:20I mean, if it's my choice unilaterally and I have a co-partner, I probably will be dropping Kendra Miller and adding Tyreek Hill and just rolling for it.
56:28Shooting for it. If you know that you're already dealing with so many injuries, you got to make up some ground somewhere that means making some tough decisions.
56:35By the way, really quickly, this is changing back.
56:38But you had just talked about Brock Bowers basically being a wide receiver.
56:41Ran 71% of his snaps out of a wide receiver spot.
56:44So, um, I wonder if he's rushing to see if he's already been added in this league.
56:49That'd be very odd. Oh my gosh. I didn't see any leagues that popped out.
56:53Like he's available in our, uh, our knockout leagues and some shallow or like FFC.
56:58He's available, but like, that's a 10 team league.
57:00I don't know. It's hard. So nothing popped out to me quickly.
57:03I just wanted to see if I had a real life example, but I don't.
57:08All right. Let's talk Chargers and Seahawks. Sorry, Broncos and 49ers.
57:11We're going to do that instead guys. Broncos, 49ers.
57:13Mike? This one actually could be kind of quick.
57:16It was kind of ho-hum for the 49ers. Uh, CMC, Debo, Kittle all found the end zone.
57:20Mike Evans, five for 76 on eight targets. Brock Purdy, two touchdowns and 30 rushing yards.
57:25That's about what you want from the Niners. And you'll take it against this really good Denver defense.
57:30So I don't really have anything else I need to.
57:33But this is clearly, we're clearly at a sell high point for CMC.
57:36Sell high? Okay. Hold on. Tell me why. Tell me more.
57:39Like Christian McCaffrey has four touchdowns this year. Okay.
57:42Okay. First one was a one yard rushing touchdown.
57:44Second one was a one yard rushing touchdown. Third one was a one yard rushing touchdown.
57:49Fourth one was a one yard rushing touchdown. Does not have a single carry over 25 yards this year.
57:54Didn't last year either. And hasn't had a single game over 45 receiving yards this year.
57:58They had two kick games this last two. Like, I know that this one was tough, but like they had two kick games.
58:05He's a touchdown dependent running back. If he's not getting in the end zone, he's not getting the receiving volume that you
58:11guys think that like it's, it's, this is what makes him elite is that part.
58:15Cause we already knew he was inefficient from a rushing perspective.
58:18He's not getting elite CMC rushing, uh, receiving volume right now.
58:21He's already nine in fantasy. When you look at all the other top 10 running backs, he is ninth out of 10.
58:27When it comes to snap percentage, because the 49ers just aren't using him as much.
58:32I think he's still tier two. I mean, he had the, he didn't.
58:35You drafted him as a top five. I know that, but I mean, what, who are you trading him for?
58:41Are you going to get Ken Walker? Sure. Do that.
58:43But like, I would trade him for a wide receiver.
58:46I don't think you could do a running back.
58:49I don't, I'm not sure who would do a running back for running back.
58:53How do you trade? Yeah. For a wide receiver.
58:55Stacked at running back. How do you trade away CMC for?
58:58Well, that's kind of where I'm at is I can't find any.
59:02I have so few running backs on all my teams and I'm like, damn it.
59:06I still feel like such a good floor running back.
59:09Is there any, is there any running back that you think is either trending up or is like close to CMC, but
59:15you trust that player more rest of season? Like, are you more Derrick Henry than CMC rest of season?
59:20I'm, I'm more. Derrick Henry for Kyron Williams. Yes.
59:22You prefer Kyron Williams. I would prefer Kyron Williams over CMC rest of season.
59:26Yeah. Okay. Give us a little names. We're going to get more into this.
59:30CMC for Ashton Jensie. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it.
59:34CMC for Javante. CMC for Chuba Hubbard. I think so.
59:36I'm not sure about Chuba, but I think I would do Javante.
59:40All right. I think. Well, let's say this because I have an interesting nugget for this conversation maybe because I think we need to look at.
59:47He's got mailed out. Strength of schedule. We're going to talk about that, I think a little bit this week because I'm going to drop something new on.
59:55Schedule. And a notable one for McCaffrey. So we'll get to that at some point.
59:59But yeah, we have a couple more games here.
60:01So let's get through Denver here if that's okay.
60:04Yeah, let's do it. RJ Harvey was a notable here for me.
60:0710 targets, 10 catches, 68 yards. No one else had 50 receiving yards in the game, but RJ Harvey just not sustainable.
60:13He's not going to see a number that high and doesn't get enough in the running game, but backfield to avoid right now.
60:20Dylan Waddle found the end zone. You're lucky because he only had 35 yards.
60:24Cortland Sutton. I don't know what is going on there, fellas, but six targets.
60:27That's good, but only four yards on one catch.
60:30Welcome to Dumpsville. Yeah, Dumpsville for sure. Pat Bryant got injured in this one.
60:34We'll keep an eye on that one, but it looks like probably some missed time there considering he was carted off.
60:40Maybe that helps Sutton get going, but I'm not confident right now.
60:43J.K. Dobbins, by the way, just to put a bow on him, 31% of snaps, 52 total yards.
60:48Again, avoiding that backfield. Love that, Michael. Good recap there.
60:51Let's talk Seahawks and Chargers. I just say George Kittle scored again.
60:54What a beast. Yeah. Oh, that touchdown was great, too.
60:57Sweet. That was a beautiful-looking touchdown. I thought you were trying to add Tyreek Hill.
61:01No, I was talking about it, but sorry. It was sweet.
61:04Let's talk about the Seahawks really quickly. We'll start on that side.
61:07JSN kind of came down to earth a little bit, guys.
61:11JSN came down to earth a little bit, guys.
61:13High for 76. Sorry, you just mentioned that as well.
61:16Yes. I was trying to add Tyreek Hill. Mike doesn't think it's why.
61:19Mike's not into comedy. I was thinking about it yesterday.
61:22I'm going to get mad about this next guy.
61:25It's hilarious how JSN had five catches for 76 yards, which if you do the math, would put him on pace over
61:31the course of a season for 85 catches and like 1,300 yards, and we're like, man, that really sucks.
61:36That's a really tough game. I mean, that's what Daniel's doing with CMC, too.
61:40Like, only 80 yards and 18 opportunities? Man, that's garbage.
61:43He didn't draft the guy top five to be RB9.
61:46But I hear what you're saying. CMC or JSN is going to be amazing.
61:49Only six targets in this one. She didn't really need him.
61:53What are you going to say? Yeah. But Chichi, he found the end zone.
61:56Honestly, what happened was what I had been advocating for the entirety of the offseason in Jadarian Price was the role of
62:03the running back for the Seattle Seahawks. And it finally materialized.
62:06Yeah. It just was with Emmanuel Wilson this week.
62:08Yeah. But this is what I was saying. He talked about this last week.
62:12This is what it was for. Piece of volume in this offense.
62:15And if there could have been one guy to be the guy as the lead back without Zach Charbonnet, I assumed it
62:21was going to be the first round pick, not one of these guys.
62:25But Emmanuel Wilson absolutely smashed. 21 for 81 rushing yards and a touchdown plus three for 39 and a receiving touchdown as well, guys.
62:32He looked fantastic. I started him last week in a league where I lost HN.
62:36I subbed him in because that team, every player I have is hurt, much like your FFC team.
62:41Yes. And I had a huge week. You know, the lead back, like the lead ball carrier with what he's had recently.
62:47All you need is a couple targets. We talked about this on this show last week.
62:51And you can put together a huge fantasy game just because the Seattle offense runs through that game, much like you thought
62:58with what would be the case with Price if he lived up to expectations.
63:01Just missed the player. Good for Emmanuel Wilson, though.
63:04Yeah. He looks fantastic in this one. We'll keep rolling with him until we hear otherwise on some of these other guys.
63:10Let's talk about the other side, though. How many chargers are we legitimately still in on after this week?
63:15None. I mean, you're mad at them. Lad McConkie left early with a foot injury.
63:20Let's say that. So he unfortunately got banged up.
63:22Justin Herbert, droppable. You don't need to even have him on your roster anymore.
63:26Correct. Omari in Hampton, who finishes RB20. He's going to stay probably where we had him this week, maybe in that flex conversation.
63:32RB20 to 25. He's the third most snaps on his own team.
63:36Yeah. Two targets, though. Hey. Progress. I think he's still clearly the most talented out of everyone.
63:40Although Keaton Mitchell clearly looks talented when he's on the field.
63:43Yeah, yeah. Carried him. Man. But I don't want to start anyone else.
63:47I don't want to run a guess in. I don't want any of the pass catchers.
63:52I texted you guys last night looking ahead to Chargers Broncos next week.
63:55I think there's zero lineup blocks in that game, which is hard to believe.
63:59That's insane. Broncos. Chargers. Chargers. Zero lineup blocks. I think I'm going to go buy a Justin Herbert jersey and hang it
64:05up in my house next to my Anthony Richardson jersey.
64:08Stole Field. Let's not go that far. Oh. That's not your...
64:11I mean... Come on now. Richardson at least said that one week where he was...
64:15Come on now. Yeah. Man. Yeah, that's a good point.
64:18Richardson did have a game. One or two good games.
64:21Let's move ahead. We'll keep watching this Ladd-McConkie injury as well, but maybe something to just keep in mind.
64:26Last one? Way down the list. Yeah, last one.
64:28Lions and Panthers. Field's going to take over. Oh, Daniel.
64:31I am sorry. If you started Teddero McMillan last night, you probably won your fantasy matchup, as the good news is when
64:37you face off against the Lions defense, literally anything can happen.
64:40How about this for T-Mac? 45.2 fantasy points. 14 catches for 192 yards and two touchdowns.
64:45He had nine for 147 in the first half.
64:47Kept it up in the second half. I mean, his Lions defense is making the Cowboys defense of last year look good.
64:54I'm sorry, Daniel. No, don't be sorry. I agree with you.
64:57They are second in the NFL in sacks, and that's all they do well.
65:00Everything else is just getting blood-leaded by opposing offenses.
65:03So T-Mac absolutely dominates. Yep. Tuba Hubbard, ridiculous. He was the best running back in terms of fantasy points last night in this game.
65:1025.9. By the way, that was on the ground.
65:12Like, the Lions in the past had been pretty decent.
65:15Yeah, yeah. A lot of times they've been decent against running backs on the ground.
65:19He crushed the Lions. He crushed it. Bryce Young had 21.5 fantasy points, but he absolutely had his way.
65:24He had 329 passing yards. I think maybe the most intriguing wave of wire out of this upcoming week is Jacoby Brissette.
65:30They play against the Lions next week. Yeah. We are talking about quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs, even tight ends in an
65:37entirely different light when they play the Lions. I'm sorry.
65:39It just pains me for you, Daniel, because this defense is just so bad, and I don't know where the answers come from.
65:46There is a chance we unlock Marvin Harrison Jr.
65:48for fantasy managers next week. He might even be good next week.
65:52Yes. Wow. Correct. For the Lions, everything else is...
65:54It was pretty chalky, to be honest. Sort of.
65:57I'm kind of disappointed. Amon Ra 8 for 70.
65:59I think one guy came through. Yeah, that's right.
66:02We'll talk about that in a second. Jameer Gibbs had 17.7.
66:05When that's an awful week, it tells you how ridiculous the player is.
66:08Same thing with Amon Ra. He had only eight catches for only 75 yards.
66:12It feels like the JSN conversation of a moment ago.
66:15You're like, really, dude? Yeah. Sorry. Every once in a while, Superman only wears his cape partially.
66:20But Sam Laporte had a huge night last night.
66:22He had eight for 84 on 13 targets with a pair of touchdowns.
66:26Oh, a touchdown, excuse me. And James Williams, finally.
66:28Jameer. There we go. They seem to make an effort.
66:31We said it. An asserted effort for him early in the game.
66:34Six for 102 for Jameer. Had a long catch for nearly 50 yards last night.
66:39You got to just ride that wave, baby. Ride that wave with James and Williams.
66:43But 412 passing yards for Jared Goff. We mentioned both starting corners going down for the Panthers this week.
66:48Opened up the window for Jared Goff to have a big day.
66:51Both quarterbacks up over 20 fantasy points. Bryce Young had the fewest fantasy points of any quarterback against the Lions in a game this season.
66:58Wow. And he's still at 21.5. He's a top six quarterback going into Monday Night Football.
67:03And he was the worst quarterback in any game against the Lions so far this season.
67:07That is wild. By the way, Lions, if you want to win games on your last two or three series, maybe use Jameer Gibbs one time.
67:14Maybe give him one touch in the game. They didn't, and they lost.
67:18Some curious things late in the game. That was surprising.
67:21Didn't feel great. Let's dive into Monday Night Football here really quickly, guys.
67:24Atlanta Falcons taking on the New Orleans Saints. I think for Atlanta, it's pretty clear.
67:29It's like, will Kyle Pitts ever get going? Yes.
67:31Okay, so now Bajan is back. And we saw Drake London be unlocked with Michael Panics, which we had talked about.
67:37It's just, does Kyle Pitts hold value still for us at the tight end spot?
67:41Yeah, Saints side, I'm just watching the running backs.
67:44I'm going to see what they do because A-chan is on IR.
67:47So he's at at least four games. So we have to see if one of these guys can separate just enough to be flex worthy.
67:54Maybe RB2 worthy. I think that Alvin Kamara is most likely, but there's going to be a lot of other.
68:00Kendrick Miller, CJ Donaldson. So that's what I'm watching here.
68:02Yep. Who are you taking in this one, guys?
68:05I am taking, oh yeah, the Saints, of course.
68:07The Saints, the game is in New Orleans. This is the 20-year anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.
68:12And I am taking the Falcons. I'm a dummy.
68:14That's right. I don't know. I just felt like getting spicy.
68:17I like it. I like it. I'm taking the Saints as well.
68:21By the way, the showdown of the night feels.
68:23This is big. Versus Mike. You're up two points, I believe, in the FFC.
68:27Yeah, it's like two and a half or something.
68:30Yeah, you're up like two and a half. I have Drake London.
68:33You have Chris Alave. This is a good one.
68:35That's a great Monday Night Sweat. Yeah, both of us with the win would improve to three and one in the FFC.
68:41Big one. That's a big one. Have fun watching Monday Night Football tonight.
68:45We'll be back tomorrow diving into the week five waiver targets, our start of the weeks, and all of that from Field and Mike.
68:52My name is Daniel. Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
68:56You deserve it. We love you guys. We'll see you tomorrow.
