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0:21And the 0601-0. Guys, that blew my mind last night.
0:24Unbelievable! My mind, I guess. Have you guys ever played Minecraft?
0:27You have small children. I don't think yours are.
0:30I haven't played in a long time. Okay. Yeah, they play a little bit on the Switch, I think we have it, something like that.
0:36I can't remember. I could not believe that he has been doing this for 12 years.
0:41For a decade of working towards this beautiful skyline.
0:43Yes! The man was dedicated. That's like finally crafting a dynasty team in fantasy football is what he has done over the
0:49last decade with his kids in Minecraft. Very cool.
0:52If you haven't seen it, honestly, just go check it out.
0:55It was fun. Reminder, everyone is a nerd. That's right.
0:58Exactly. Maybe there's a few people who aren't. I don't know.
1:01Like, maybe... Oh, yeah. Like, not me. The Miz.
1:03He's probably not. That's it. That's all I got.
1:06I don't know. That's it. Anyone else? No. I feel like Justin Jefferson's pretty cool.
1:10Justin Jefferson. Yeah, he's pretty cool. Even in the commercial he does with...
1:13He's super nerdy. He is. He's a huge nerd.
1:16He's got the big pasta hat on upside down for the commercial that he does.
1:20I don't know. I think he's funny anyways. Everybody's a nerd in someone.
1:23I feel like the reactions to Mike Tomlin's Minecraft were like there were one of two reactions that were available.
1:29I know. I know. One was like, oh my God, this is amazing.
1:32It's so relatable. Mike Tomlin's the man. Like, he's one of us.
1:36Yes. Yada, yada, yada. The other reaction was largely Steelers fans that were like, if you're wondering why we haven't won a
1:42play in over a decade, it's because our coach is too busy refining his skyscraper.
1:46I don't think that's what it is. I really don't.
1:49It's amazing, though. It's incredible. All right. We're going to dive into a bunch of fun stuff.
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2:00Guys, we got a big Thursday Night Football preview as well as the rest of Week 4 we're going to dive into.
2:06So let's get into Thursday Night Football. And we maybe can be quick about this one.
2:11I think so. I don't know. We don't have like news at the top today.
2:15Nothing really happened yesterday. The biggest piece of news was Bukunukua return to practice.
2:19That was it. And we'll talk about that more tomorrow.
2:22But I was going to say the biggest piece of news was actually one of the teams we're looking at right here, the Steelers trading Joey Porter Jr.
2:29to Dallas overnight. I woke up to and I saw all of these push notifications from Adam Schefter and I'm like, uh-oh, what happened?
2:36It was a Joey Porter. So yeah, we'll talk about that more when the matchup calls for it.
2:41We have exactly one lineup block on the screen and that is Jalen Warren.
2:45Obviously, Rico Dowdle ruled out for this one, which means Jalen Warren becomes a mid-tier RB2 in the 12 to 17 range.
2:51How high are you? I think I have a 9 or 10.
2:549 or 10. Yeah, but he was a late ad here.
2:57I had no lineup blocks for this game initially, which isn't fun for Thursday Night Football, but with Kyle Dowdle out, Warren certainly gets into that conversation.
3:04Definitely a starter this week. He should be extremely busy.
3:07He was very busy last week. He had nearly 140 rushing yards.
3:10I guess the only way in which he isn't busy is if the team says, you know, we played four days ago.
3:16We rode you really hard. You're not exactly like this jumbo size running back as it is.
3:21Do we give a little bit of work to Travis Homer?
3:24I don't think so. I don't think so either.
3:26I'm just, I'm trying to make the case in which he doesn't see a ton of work, but no, this feels like
3:33he's going to be very, very busy. Look at the numbers last week.
3:36He should be in lineups. Look at that. Give me 20 touches.
3:39Give me that. How about 176 yards in that game?
3:42Unreal. Good at the game. So Jalen Warren cracks our lineups tonight for sure.
3:46I don't want any of the pass catchers. Honestly, like I haven't seen DK Metcalf.
3:50I'm out on. He scored last week. That was better, but yeah.
3:53Yeah. Chemistry doesn't look good. He doesn't look like it just doesn't look great.
3:57I'm not, I'm out right now. Unfortunately on our guy, Michael Pittman jr.
4:01Too until I see something materialize. I'm hoping that was just a, he got hurt and then now he's taking some time.
4:07Hopefully he'll ramp back up. Roman Wilson that had that long catch last week, but wasn't super, he hasn't been super high.
4:13He wasn't guarded on that long. But they are kind of spreading.
4:16Touchdown as well. Yeah, exactly. I was, that one got me.
4:19That was frustrating. That one got me. But hopefully they'll ramp up Pittman.
4:23We need, the thing is, he's not going to score a lot of touchdowns.
4:27So he's not going to use him near the goal line.
4:30We need the volume. So we got to get him to seven or eight targets.
4:34If that happens, he'll be back in the lineup discussion.
4:36All right. So we have one lineup lock. Let's talk about, I think it's Mike wants to talk about Harold Fannin, right?
4:42Yeah. And then I have a follow-up question for both of you.
4:46Deal. Two follow-up questions. One involving a player, one involving just like the general game, but talk to us about Harold Fannin.
4:52Yeah. Harold Fannin. And I did talk about him yesterday, so I can, he's better in week two and obviously came through
4:58in a big way last week, seven for 51, two touchdowns on nine targets in that game.
5:02His snaps, his routes are up big from where he was last season when he was a clear tight end one for a majority of the season.
5:10The question here is if you have Fannin, you're, you're either trading him because you think this offense is going to fall
5:16apart or you're trusting that Deshaun Watson is going to hold down the four and just be, you just have to be great.
5:22Just not, not a disaster. As long as he's somewhat competent, Fannin should be fine in fantasy Pittsburgh.
5:27Very good defense. It might push you away from Fannin tonight, but they did a lot of touchdown to Mike is sickie last week.
5:34So maybe there's something there. I have him at nine.
5:36So for me, a fringe tight end one, I think he's back in the starting conversation after what we saw last week
5:43of the top 10 tight ends, like seven of them are in the fringe tight end one conversation this week.
5:48Only seven. Yeah, it's, it is tough. It really does feel like it's Brock Bowers and Trey McBride with George Kittle and then everybody else, right?
5:55Yep. No one else is like, come on, super strong.
5:58We'll talk about him in a little bit for sure.
6:01We will. So let's talk about the other player that is the most rostered amongst the Browns, which is Quinshawn Judkins.
6:06You were an optimistic coming in, optimist coming into the year.
6:09Mike, is he a fade tonight? Is he a flex only?
6:12Yeah. I mean, how would you categorize Quinshawn Judkins value?
6:15So I'm at 23. The Steelers haven't been by any means lights out against running backs so far.
6:20So that can give you a little bit of optimism, but I'm nervous.
6:24I said going into last week, that was the week we had to see it and the volume was good, but the efficiency still was not there.
6:31One of the biggest red flags coming into the season was going to be the Browns offensive line.
6:36And it just hasn't been there. You know, they, they tried to address it.
6:40They overhauled it from last year, but they were just kind of like, who's left, who can we bring in to play the interior of that line?
6:47And so far it's been bad. It's been a lot of pressure on Deshaun Watson.
6:51It's been terrible. And for Quinshawn Judkins, I still believe in him as a football player.
6:56The problem is he has to do it on the ground.
6:59He's never going to be a huge pass catching guy.
7:01Like he'll see a couple of targets, maybe two to four, but that's not really where he's going to make his hay.
7:08So we, he's not there and the passing work is under is a little low.
7:12So right now I'm nervous. I'd say a flex at best.
7:15Okay. So I just thought of something. Yep. The Browns and the Packers were about the most beleaguered offensive lines coming into the season.
7:21The Packers don't play until Sunday of this week.
7:24I feel like, and the Browns obviously play tonight in the rare occasion, which the Browns and Packers play on different days
7:30of the week this year, they should be allowed to share each other's offense.
7:34I like where your head's at field. I like this because I'm not sure that it's even a, big average offensive line.
7:40If you took the two of them and put them together, that's fair, but it's better than what they have when they are by themselves.
7:46It makes football better in general. Yeah, we all want that.
7:49Right. I agree. Okay. So Browns Packers, offensive lineman on loan tonight for the Browns.
7:54The Browns return the favor on Sunday. All right.
7:56So that was my question on Quinch on Judkins.
7:59My question generally, because you think about some of the games that we have had in Thursday night football so far this
8:05season, we had the lions and the bills. That was a huge juggernaut game.
8:08Even last Thursday night, we had the Falcons and the Packers.
8:11Yeah. We had Bijan and Bijan went absolutely nuts.
8:14Sort of Drake London. Yep. Packers, Christian Watson and Matthew Golden.
8:17But that, that was a fantasy friendlier game than this one is on paper.
8:21Got friendly at the end for the Packers. That's fair.
8:23Yes. As you guys are watching this game tonight, are you going in with the expectations that the fantasy output is going
8:30to be so low that whatever I get is a bonus or you going in with the, all right, listen, I know
8:36that it's like not a great opportunity here for Quinch on Judkins or DK Metcalf, but can I please find my way
8:42to like 15 points for each of them? I mean, if I start a guy, I'm expecting production.
8:47That's how this works. If not, he's going to get reamed out in the locker room.
8:51I'm going to, I'm going to, Mike, I should have asked you that question.
8:55Cause whenever it's like a question about like, you know, instinct and gut and maybe emotion, I should just ask.
9:00I'm just confused because if I put like, if his projection is 14 and a half, that's what he's going to get.
9:06Right. That's what I was thinking about it. It took me, I already know I have the script guys.
9:11So, so Daniel. Yeah. Talked about this. Here's the thing.
9:14I'm going to ice you out for this guy.
9:17He's just, he's like you, I cannot crack the code.
9:19Yes. You're too down the middle. Yeah. I'll work on some projects.
9:23It's actually like, it's, no, it's, it's, it's actually disturbing sometimes how great you are at your job and how level-headed you are.
9:29Disturbing? Yeah. Like, cause Daniel and I, like I'm going to be sitting there and if like DK Metcalf doesn't score 12 points, I'm like, damn it.
9:36Why do I play this game? I should really just go into a new industry, which honestly, a lot of America might
9:42be happy if I went into a different industry.
9:45No, maybe you never know. It's possible, but like I will be pulling my hair out if things don't go as I desire them.
9:52I, I do the same thing when I'm watching the games, when it's actually happening.
9:56Like, uh, I talked about this with the chiefs game week one where I knew I needed Rishi rice to have like
10:02five points to bear whatever it was, uh, an extra point or something after he scored the touchdown.
10:07Yeah. I was pulling my hair out because it was frustrating.
10:10Like, why are they not giving him the football?
10:12So here's, I get what you're, I get what you're saying.
10:15Here's my real answer to this question. And it's not the, the, I don't know if it's the right answer, especially as
10:21an analyst in football, this game is the perfect second game, second screen experience for somebody else doing something, because honestly, it's
10:27not going to be a super fun other than what the Steelers did yesterday, last week, offensively.
10:32They're not a fun thing to watch the Browns.
10:34I also think like any given week, they're also not a fun team to watch.
10:38Depends on which offense you're going to get. You already talked about the offensive line.
10:43Yep. So like, am I watching? I mean, I will be watching the game because it's what we do, but like, if
10:49I was at an average fan with people in this game, would I be like, this is what I'm watching for.
10:54Like, honestly, I'd probably be playing Minecraft while I watch this game.
10:58We also have playoff baseball tonight. WNBA playoffs roll along.
11:00This one doesn't have the same zhuzh as our other Thursday night football games.
11:04All right. Don't try to, you know, like, listen, WNBA is awesome.
11:07I've got three daughters. I'm pumped for them to continue to see that sport grow.
11:12And Caitlin Clark and the Indiana fever have a win or go home game against the Las Vegas Aces with Asia Wilson,
11:18Asia Wilson, who is the best player in WNBA history and lost her cool little bit during the end of the last game.
11:24But this is going to be a massive, massive day.
11:27Yeah. My daughter's getting into basketball now too. So I've been playing with her.
11:31So that's been fun. They're finally playing a sport I played, not at a high level, but I liked it.
11:36Uh, I know like I was, I was, I was just clarifying.
11:39You didn't need to sneak that in there. I was a fundamentals guy.
11:43I was, I was small. Right. So I played point guard and I was tiny, uh, but I could teach her the
11:49fundamentals because that's, that's what I, about all I can do.
11:52Um, so I'm excited for that too. Um, and also, uh, Megan always wants to watch a traitors cause it's on.
11:58Yes. Obviously. So I think what you're, you're giving her a pass to watch a little bit.
12:02I'm with you on that while you are out there.
12:05I'll be like this. Like, I don't know how much I get, like, I really find out about this team if I'm
12:11watching it because I am still, it's like, does the team just get better with Deshaun Watson?
12:16Does he become the guy for the rest of the season?
12:19Is that what, you know what I mean? Yes.
12:21So, so maybe I guess that's what I'm watching if I'm looking for, who are you taking in this one?
12:27I got the Steelers. Yeah. I think the Steelers get it done.
12:30Can the Browns win three in a row? I don't know.
12:33Can they Daniel? I'm going to take the Cleveland Browns.
12:36Yeah. Someone's got to save the panel here. All right.
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13:56Let's dive into our week four storylines. We got a handful of games to bring to the table.
14:01We're going to start with the Bills and the Patriots.
14:04Lineup locks in this one. Looks like it's a lot of Bills.
14:07Josh Allen, James Cook, DJ Moore, and Dalton Kincaid.
14:10Is there a second page with all of the Patriots?
14:12It must be, right? They have Drake May, and they have A.J.
14:16Brown, and Hunter Henry, and all the running backs.
14:18I'm not going to pay a lot. Yeah. There must be another page here.
14:22There's not another page there. Okay. Thank you, Michael.
14:24Got it. All right. So we're starting a lot of Bills here.
14:28Let's start with you then. Obviously, there's no Bills on this.
14:31Was it you? I have the Patriots, was my question mark.
14:34So I think you have Kincaid. I have Kincaid.
14:36I have Kincaid. I want to start with the Patriots.
14:39Okay. Let's talk to it then. Let's do this.
14:41All right. So we have the Patriots. The question I have is, is this Patriots going to get anybody, Patriots offense, going
14:47to get anyone on track until A.J. Brown returns?
14:50Correct. And the timeline for A.J. Brown that I saw most recently was six to eight weeks.
14:55He gets hurt in week one. It's only week four.
14:57So we are potentially only halfway through A.J. Brown's return.
15:00And then when he does return, he's got to be better than he was in the first, not A.J.
15:05Brown's fault, but targeted more than he was in that game.
15:08He had in basically two plus quarters, three catches for 24 yards.
15:12Yep. Or 26 yards. Not enough based off of our preseason expectations.
15:15Let me talk about these players that are actually playing on Saturday.
15:18Okay. Drake May, under 10 fantasy points in three straight games.
15:21We all agree that Drake May outside the top 10 this week.
15:24Correct. Yeah, can't do it. Huge opportunity for him against the division rival Bills, but I can't trust him right now.
15:30Mike, you made the point that it was kind of his breakout game last year against the Bills.
15:35Maybe, maybe there's the nothing to lose mentality. I will tell you what there is to lose if you start him though.
15:41You're fantasy man. Yes. But be careful. I would like to see Drake May put together a good game before I start playing him in my lineup.
15:49Running backs, Ramondre Stevenson versus Trevion Henderson. Last week, post fumble, what do we see?
15:53Very first play of the game, Ramondre Stevenson on the field.
15:56Yep. Very first play of the game, like a two-yard catch by Ramondre Stevenson.
16:00Yep. Trayvon Henderson comes in the next play. He ends up having more carries, but Ramondre plays 53.5% of the snaps to 35% of the snaps for Trevion.
16:07Both got benched in the fourth quarter when the game got out of hand.
16:11Ramondre had fewer, Trevion had more carries, but Ramondre played every single third down before the game was totally out of hand.
16:17So on those potentially high leverage passing situations, it's probably going to be more Ramondre than Trevion.
16:22I said all of those words to say that neither one of those sounds like a guy that you are starting in
16:28fantasy right now, at least not in a 10-team league.
16:31Wide receivers, who's playing the most over the past two games?
16:34Mack Hollins, who's going to be on the field when they want to run block.
16:38He's going to be on the field when they want to throw the football as well.
16:42But when I tell you the options to start at wide receiver are Mack Hollins and Romeo Dobbs, who are you guys feeling confident in?
16:49Pass. Pass. Thank you. That's the answer. The good news, if there is good news, is the Bills are bottom five against
16:55running backs and wide receivers in terms of fantasy points allowed so far this season.
16:59That's good news. Other than that, I have nothing.
17:02A lot of potential second passing volume. Okay. They just have to be, they can't go three and out every drive.
17:07Right. They cannot. That's the problem is they're so inefficient offensively.
17:10The biggest, I think the way in which this offense gets salvaged, save A.J.
17:14Brown's return, is that I think we can all acknowledge the Patriots took advantage of a very light schedule.
17:19But there are some numbers when you go back and I saw someone post this on social media yesterday.
17:25When you go back and look at Drake May's performances against defenses that were in the top half of Mike's favorite EPA last year, right?
17:31Drake May had six games against the top 16 in defensive EPA last season.
17:35And he was, more than good. He was very good, right?
17:38Drake May did not only succeed last year because of the schedule.
17:42Through three games so far this year, he is playing like a guy that only succeeded because of the schedule.
17:47Drake May is too talented for this rut to last too much longer.
17:51But until Drake May digs himself out of this rut, this entire Patriots offense is basically fantasy useless.
17:56And this Patriots team season could get turned upside down.
17:58They are staring down a one in three start in which the Bills would be 4-0.
18:03Huge game. With Josh Allen as their quarterback. So, big opportunity for the Patriots but big, big risk in starting any of them.
18:09Agreed. I am totally with you on that. I want to ask you guys about Dalton Kincaid then because I feel like
18:15there's still this risk for Dalton Kincaid when we're looking at him.
18:18Week one, surprise breakout. Honestly, surprise huge game against the Houston Texans.
18:22We weren't expecting any of the Bills to do what they did against Houston but they crushed for the entire team.
18:27Big game. Then against the Detroit Lions. DJ Moore gets hurt.
18:30We know that the Lions we've now found out they've been very bad against tight ends this year.
18:35He does exactly what he's supposed to do. Week three against the Chargers.
18:39Classic Dalton Kincaid letdown game after two big games to start the season.
18:42One which was a surprise. One which we now know should have happened because they played the Lions.
18:47Now here in week four they're taking on the Patriots.
18:50They haven't played any good tight ends yet. Steelers, Seahawks, and Jaguars.
18:53But he's playing more than 70% of the snaps.
18:56He's playing more than any wide receiver. At this point because he's on the field so much I'm still okay to buy
19:02into him as a low end tight end one but I don't think that I felt like I kind of my brain
19:08started to think okay we finally seen the Dalton Kincaid we were waiting for after the first two games of the season.
19:14I think I need to see it more than just the first two games after I've seen now one of them was a big surprise in Houston.
19:21The other one was like yeah you should have smashed against Detroit so this will be a big one here but I
19:27am willing to lean into him as a low end tight end one again this week.
19:32There's like I don't know four or five tight ends where when you're talking about their value for an upcoming week you
19:38can get through all the mitigating factors like you know didn't perform that well last week has traditionally been an up and
19:44down player in his career a la Dalton Kincaid and then it's like yeah but I really have a hard time putting
19:50him outside my top ten because there's three good tight ends.
19:53That's it! Yes! So yeah he fits into that and he plays on an offense with Josh freaking Allen and they could
19:59score 35 points any game so no doubt seven for me I'll be starting him love that where you guys start who you guys taking in this game?
20:07Bills I think the Bills get it done how do you pick against how do you pick the Patriots right now?
20:12You can't the Bills playing three straight games at home I feel like that's very rare in the NFL three straight games
20:18at home like at the beginning of the year they're wearing that new stadium yeah they are yeah they are alright let's
20:24talk about a team not wearing in their new stadium Colts and Commanders playing in London I did that poorly can we
20:30do this in entirely a British accent? I don't think so our producers are cool with that one yeah I'm just gonna
20:37pass Marcus Mariota that might be more Australian? yeah it's a streaming option this week nope you're still in Australia who's like your favorite British guy?
20:44that's more Australian for me too that's too Australian yeah I think I'm stuck in Australia I don't think alright well here's
20:50the deal I've never been to Australia and I would love it lineup blocks here with this one Jonathan Taylor Josh Downs
20:56and Tyler Warren for the Commanders right now it is just Terry McLaurin on this list for you Michael this week it's
21:02Josh Downs to Naby look at Downs wow Downs to Naby that was really good that was a good that was a
21:08good one alright cool whenever I make a good reference Fields always so impressed yeah oh I like it I don't know
21:14I like it I just feel like we all of us have been guilty of like when you don't nail it giving
21:20you like too much flack yeah I gotta compensate I mean that's fair look I receive constructive criticism well so bring it
21:26either way I'll take the praise and the heat you should schedule a haircut for next week I would I did hey
21:32it's on the books I got it scheduled why is Marcus Mariota not a lineup lock after what he did in that
21:38first week I just want to throw a couple things out there but I'm curious about this I think he's at least
21:44in the streaming conversation 20.4 fantasy points last week against who oh the Seattle Seahawks he was awesome he was honestly three
21:50touchdowns he was he just managed the game really well didn't do too much he honestly didn't even utilize his legs all
21:56that much even though we know he's got that in his bag I think this week thoughts Mike my thoughts well I
22:02mean I'm higher than both of you in the rankings you tell me why he's on a lineup locked Daniel Colts have
22:08given up 25 fantasy points in two of their three games so far this season I just feel like he to me
22:14I realize I have him at 12 part of that is he's still a backup quarterback on an offense that has a
22:20limited ceiling but he is in that streaming conversation I would rather play Marcus Mariota than Drake May this week if I
22:26had to choose between the two you just did the old ask and answer why is he not a lineup locked you're
22:32right why is he not a lineup here's the reason why I think you made the case why Marcus Mariota he was
22:38the number two pick in the draft over a decade ago he does have talent but he's also one of the best
22:44backups in the game he's a very good backup but the reason why he hasn't stuck as a starter is because there
22:50are moments there are glimpses of a very solid play and then there are times in which he turns into a pumpkin
22:56but for our purposes he has probably been a better fantasy starter than he has a real life starter throughout his career
23:02he's still mobile enough that if the play breaks down or if the pocket collapses he has the opportunity to turn nothing
23:08into something he does have two good receivers it's a very good matchup as Mike mentioned so yes I do have some
23:14Marcus Mariota in streaming lineups this week myself yeah I like him a lot that's why I have him at QB10 this
23:21week the only reason he's not hired to answer your question Daniel is Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Bryce Young against Detroit Tyler
23:27Shuck against Atlanta Mahomes Kyler against Miami Purdy Lawrence they've both been terrific Joe Burrow even though he gets Jacksonville and that's
23:33it that's all I do that's it I mean that's such a there's a very good group ahead of him you didn't
23:39mention Jalen Hurts in there I did not you did not mention Drake May after even Hurts Goff Dak May Stroud Stafford
23:45I have him ahead of all those guys love that matchup definitely is a big part of that so by the way
23:51just for those that maybe saw that Jaden Daniels has traveled to London and is practicing doesn't sound like a guy's gonna
23:57be playing this week maybe a week away there yeah he's definitely getting closer but not ready to start yet is Jaden
24:03Daniels I just wanted to I think there we probably have gotten close enough to a point in the season where we
24:09can put topics to bed Quinceon Judkins might have been in this category a couple of games ago I wanted to for
24:15once and all once and for all excuse me put this commander's backfield to bed it's like they're just to stay away
24:21right so Bill Krofsky Merritt has exactly one target in every game he has caught all three of those targets 100% catch
24:27percentage but if he's getting basically minimal passing game utilization week in and week out he has one run so far this
24:33year over 10 yards and he's averaging 3.0 yards per carry you are relying on an inefficient runner falling in the end
24:39zone once or twice a game to be a fantasy starter Rashad White he was better last week he caught a touchdown
24:45pass but not a big enough roll not enough passing game volume to be a lineup block either and remember Austin Eckler
24:51is now on that 53 man roster and he's probably going to be involved I would imagine at least in some capacity
24:57you don't sign him just to chill out I agree I'd be interested to see how he factors into this backfield the
25:03other thing on this game for me is the two wide receivers that were in that lineup lock conversation I know that
25:09Mike tells you you should be playing them but just to give sort of more credence to the idea of Terry McLaurin
25:15this Colts defense Daniel you noted is just awful they actually are like right near the top of most passing yards allowed
25:21this season despite keeping the Houston Texans offense kind of in check last week speaks to how bad they were against Patrick
25:27Mahomes in week two and then Lamar Jackson in week one Josh Downs the other side of this game Terry McLaurin last
25:33week was ridiculous like looked like one of the best players on a field that included Jackson Smith and Jigba Byron Murphy
25:39Leonard Williams all those great Seahawks players as well Josh Downs has faced us off against a commander's secondary that has allowed
25:45the most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers this season they've also allowed a wide receiver to go over 35 fantasy points
25:51in back-to-back weeks I will acknowledge that those two wide receivers were CeeDee Lamb and Jackson Smith and Jigba slightly different 35
25:57plus out of Josh Downs but the bottom line is that guys have absolutely crushed against this commander secondary we obviously are
26:03not really watching the London games or the overseas games because we're doing fantasy focus countdown we are hoping though for lots
26:09and lots and lots of fantasy points throughout that 60 minutes I appreciate that because I think Josh Downs would be the
26:15most surprising lineup lock if anyone were just to look at the list like really Josh Downs is a lineup lock but
26:21it's because of the matchup all the things that you talked about it was a huge target share there's no they're running
26:28the offense through Taylor Downs and Warren with I mean Keenan Allen had a good game last week I know last or
26:34the other day I think you asked like are we interested in Keenan Allen and again there's so much bust potential with
26:40him based on what we saw last season I wrote about this in the playbook you know I still he's on the
26:46flex radar I think someone asked the question like are they is he worth bothering with sure you know in a 12
26:52team PPR league I think he's on the flex radar at the time I was just like nah I don't really want
26:58to mess with that but like the other guys I can see what the situation at receiver there you know that him
27:04being a viable flex I'll give him that but it just doesn't feel good you're taking the Colts or commanders in this
27:10one guys who did I pick that's a close one yeah I picked the Colts yeah oh Z commanders okay I like
27:16it I like that field I was surprised by that one all right let's dive into the next one Jets and Chicago
27:22Bears oh good you guys are here let me talk this time it's about time I have a topic for once line
27:28of blocks in this one Gary Wilson he's been awesome Luther Burden the third he was great last week DeAndre Swift continues
27:34to be the guy Mike where you want to start with this you want to go with some running backs here we
27:40don't have Breece Hall in this one we don't have Breece Hall that's the big topic from this one not official I
27:46would say he's looking doubtful for a week so we're going to pivot to the backup running backs and they've been talking
27:52up Braylon Allen for quite a long time now he's been around a couple of years about the role he's going to
27:58have in this backfield he does have 19 carries and five targets so far this season but it just has not come
28:04to fruition he hasn't been able to really eat away at Breece Hall's workload to any substantial degree and his efficiency has
28:10not been good 3.7 yards per carry so far in his career is under five yard per target as well his only
28:16two career double digit fantasy games were two years ago back in 2024 just has not made a big impact and here's
28:22the thing I expect him I know Isaiah Davis hasn't played an offensive or had an offensive touch so far this season
28:28I expect some kind of split here Allen should be the starter the lead rusher but first of all Davis has been
28:34pretty effective so far in a small sample he's averaging 5.6 yards per carry it's been better in the passing game as
28:40well but the bottom line is this is a backfield that hasn't even allowed Breece Hall a top 10 fantasy week this
28:46season so now we're going to go to a two-headed committee of backups and we're going to expect a lot I don't
28:52think so you're really if you're going to take a shot on Braylon Allen who I have at RB22 you're just really
28:58hoping that he finds his way into the end zone against the Bears and look the Bears didn't look good Monday night
29:04against Saquon they're averaging they're allowing 4.8 yards per carry this season maybe he has a shot to get into that you
29:10know top 20 at running back this week but for me I don't feel super great about this one Jets fans like
29:16Isaiah Davis more than seemingly the Jets as an organization he's outplaying him so far yeah so we'll see I think there's
29:22a chance and the Jets have Aaron Glenn acknowledged Isaiah Davis will have more of a role yeah be very very interested
29:29to see how much of a role this will be before we ask you about King and Sadiq Daniel I do want
29:35to note that Ben Johnson's non-committal on who the Bears starting quarterback will be this weekend you laugh no because it should
29:41be Case Keenum I think it'll be Tyson Bajan I know I know you think it will be I'm not I'm not
29:47disagreeing with that I just think Case Keenum played fantastic why would like Tyson Bajan is not going to be the guy
29:53for your organization moving forward so when you have a veteran quarterback that looked as good as he did just managing a
29:59team why take him off the field he did everything you asked him to do I don't I'm not going to doubt
30:05Ben Johnson though well that's okay that's one way of thinking about it and I think that's a fair way to think
30:11because he is a proven excellent offensive line the only theory that I come up with because I was thinking about this
30:17yesterday is that like I'd probably just go back to Case Keenum he played so steady the only theory that I have
30:23is I wonder if Ben Johnson feels like hey the bag of tricks that we have available for Case Keenum is limited
30:29to about 60 minutes worth of football like all of the stuff that we should put on tape on Monday is about
30:35as far as we can go with this offense I'm not I would go with Case Keenum I know I was trying
30:41to figure out why if they do go with Tyson Bajan it is Bajan and maybe there's also something to be said
30:47for you know you spend all this time developing this guy getting all of these reps during the summer and then you
30:53yank them it's it's interesting one yeah I mean Ben Johnson may not matter either way but then Ben Johnson already answered
30:59this question which is that like it's not just that game we've been these guys have been competing all off season Bajan
31:05won the job and also they signed Bajan to an extension like that's a guy that's going to be around for a
31:11while ideally as their number two so I understand them wanting to take a look at him I don't know it's I
31:17hear exactly where Daniel's coming from I get it too I've tried to put my logic hat on and that's where I've
31:23kind of I feel like he's trying to play chess when it's just like dude but he can though that's what I'm
31:29saying like I so until he decides to show up 24 hours to Australia I get I get it there but you
31:35know they're not going to be perfect and maybe this is a situation where it's not perfect but I think I think
31:41that he if he starts Bajan it's because he thinks Bajan is better than Case Keenum I mean that's I think that's
31:47I will say this about the Bears if he starts Bajan over Case Keenum it's not going to severely impact any of
31:53the fantasy rankings that I have of the past catchers like they're all going to stay where they're at it's that quarterback
31:59change won't shift a lot for me let's talk about Kenyon Sadiq though Daniel because he was awesome last week and awesome
32:05enough to crack your top 10 he does not crack my top 10 I've got him at 13 field you got at
32:1116 Mike you've got him at 12 here's the thing though no AD Mitchell last week no Mason Taylor and he did
32:17smash again in a spot against the Lions as a tight end played 55% of the snaps that was a most of
32:23his young career but still only 55% of the snaps very popular streaming ad this week 7 for 105 and a touchdown
32:30against my Detroit Lions I feel confident in the upside that we saw from this kid last week what I don't feel
32:36confident in is that he's at the point where he's going to deliver that as a consistent weekly starter in fantasy football
32:42I need to see it again before I believe it now one thing that is positive in this AD Mitchell did not
32:48practice again this week with a finger injury doubtful again to play in this game so there could be another tightened target
32:54tree here for Geno Smith so that does help same with Mason Taylor by the way okay so then we're in a
33:00situation where it's like this could be a very similar thing but I think I want to see it one more time
33:06before I trust him as a starting tight end in my fantasy league I saw the upside on tap I just want
33:12to see consistency I liked Kenyon Sadiq as a waiver ad this week I liked him as a waiver ad to put
33:18him onto my bench to see if he can do it for more than just one game I'm with you yeah I've
33:24been stashing him in quite a few leagues and I'm happy to continue doing that because ideally you still have a better
33:30tight end option like maybe you had Goddard and Sadiq then maybe you're starting Sadiq but if you picked up Kincaid or
33:36you had Bowers or McBriar and Kittle Kelsey I mean there's so many guys in that tier that you are probably starting
33:42ahead of Sadiq but he should be rostered who do you have ahead who do you have ranked higher Colston Loveland in
33:48this game or Kenyon Sadiq I believe I have Colston Loveland I think I have what I've got Sadiq no I've I've
33:54Sadiq two ahead two ahead close call I actually moved when Taylor and A.D.
33:58Mitchell are essentially rolled out yesterday de facto rolled out I moved Sadiq up Sadiq up a little bit okay so this
34:04game I think is being it's playing being played in Chicago who are you guys taking I believe I'm taking the Bears
34:10is exactly what I was going to say the Bears yes the Bears the producers are on the Jets Zach one of
34:16our producers is a Jets fan that might be influencing the pick the three of us are on the Bears all right
34:22I mean I want the Jets to do well I like Sadiq a lot I love Garrett Wilson I love Aaron Glenn
34:28I want to change my pick to the Jets to be honest you can change it if you want it doesn't bother
34:34me and I'm gonna change my pick to the Jets we'll put it I'll change it in the rundown okay Daniel is
34:40changing it I'm in on Aaron Glenn okay yeah he was your coordinator for a long time I'm out on the former
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35:46about Chiefs and the Raiders next game up Chiefs and Raiders have a handful of lineup blocks to Patrick Mahomes Kenneth Walker
35:52the third Ashton Gentty Rashi Rice Brock Bowers even old man Travis Kelsey back to being a lineup block guys and Travis
35:58Kelsey how about that who um who wants to start with Rashi Rice here that would be me all right so uh
36:05this might be a fantasy focus first I'm calling for a graphic which is not a fantasy focus first but I'm calling
36:11for a graphic that's strictly visual this is courtesy of our friends over at NextGenStats all right believe we have weeks one
36:17and two and this is Rashi Rice's route tree on his targets and if you're watching you can see what we are
36:23all talking about right now if you're just listening I'll do my best to describe it in the first two games of
36:29the season Rashi Rice had eight total targets of those eight total targets six of them came at least seven yards beyond
36:35the line of scrimmage which is not a bunch of vertical shots but the further you throw the football down the field
36:41the less efficient the target and the less opportunity in a lot of cases for run after catch especially in PPR formats
36:47he had and then if you zoom ahead to week three when Rashi Rice and the Chiefs play the Miami Dolphins and
36:53Rashi Rice had nine targets you can go back and look of those nine one two three four five six came at
36:59seven yards or fewer including four targets at five yards or fewer right so you're all completed yes and these are all
37:05completed so basically in Rashi Rice's third game of the season as Mike has illuminated throughout the week the Chiefs said let's
37:11get back to the Rashi Rice that we have known and has been a very valuable fantasy asset for us is it
37:17a guarantee that the Chiefs are going to have this seismic shift and start using Rashi Rice only like he was used
37:23in prior years it is not but it was notable to all of us that he was deployed the way that he
37:29was last week and that gives us confidence that he can I don't think he's he's not back to that like top
37:35eight wide receiver territory and I don't know I'm not positive he'll get anywhere close to there but I do think that
37:41up there's a chance he's more like wide receiver 13 I am wide as opposed to wide receiver 23 I'm with you
37:47let me go back to that can we go can we flash back to that tweet from Michael F Florio you talked
37:53about that yesterday on fantasy live as well good which is a good call go ahead and Rashi Rice on nine targets
37:59in week three eight of them came against zone coverage Chiefs saw the second highest rate of man coverage in the first
38:05two weeks and likely to see quite a bit of zone this week as well so a good spot here for Rashi
38:11Rice nice call out there by Michael Florio so yeah I just honestly if I'm playing against the Chiefs though I'm playing
38:17man they can't beat they can't beat me in coverage they yeah I hear you and just keep in mind that they
38:23barely had to throw the ball last week to it's when he had like a 40 percent target here in that game
38:29so that's a really good sign moving forward when they actually have better game scripts could be even better for Rashi Rice
38:35yep would you have dropped or do you feel comfortable dropping Xavier Worthy if you need to go for someone else oh
38:41yeah definitely in 10 teamers I just want to make sure yeah all right honestly this feels like this game it just
38:47feels so chalky like the fantasy decisions you're only starting two guys from the Raiders and it's going to be that way
38:53basically the whole season Brock Bowers and Ashton Gentty right now you continue to start all of the Chiefs until further notice
38:59that I persuade you guys at all on the Ashton Gentty thing yesterday I'm not sure I was listening the story of
39:06this podcast no not right now I'm still I'm still basically there's there's room to get to RB1 sort of like lock
39:12it in elite status yeah and I think he might be more RB2 I think he's more RB2 as well I think
39:18he's more back and RB1 so I'm right in the middle okay okay a bunch of fence sitters around here wait what
39:24does back and RB1 mean it means like and they will rank him in the 6 to 10 range every week is
39:30that what you think he's going to finish end of season yeah what do you think he's going to finish end of
39:36season maybe we can do a board bet here the only thing that I would say hold on no no no no
39:42qualifiers here the only thing I'll say is that like end of season total fantasy points can be a little bit I
39:48think misleading towards what the players value is as it was in Ashton Gentty's rookie season correct right like he ended up
39:54as what RB9 or something RB12 11 11 he did not feel that way week in and week he did not right
40:00he got absolutely he spiked in like two games against the Bears and against the Texans late in the season yeah looked
40:06at rest season projections for what it's worth he comes in at seven seven yeah assuming everyone's healthy going forward if he's
40:12healthy he'll be a little higher if he's we don't have to do this is a couple of games to be a
40:18little I don't really care I like board bets and I like winning so yeah I say what how would you like
40:24to qualify this you just want to say we could do it on essentially a points per game basis I think we
40:30have the ability to use common sense on these as well okay I don't have basically I don't know what am I
40:36saying I'll finish I'll say he finishes top eight top 10 he's top 10 and fantasy points per game the rest of
40:42the season so week four on yeah okay deal sweet you go first I say Ashton Gentty will be top 10 at
40:48running back and fantasy points per game the rest of the season I say Ashton Gentty will not be a top 10
40:54running back and points per game basis for the rest of the season put it on the board love that am all
41:00right let's do it I love when I can make more guys do a board bet and then I just get to
41:06watch get to benefit I don't even know yeah that's amazing to say for the record you're more likely than me to
41:12win that because of injuries but we're oh points per game my gosh I shouldn't say that because we are doing points
41:18per game so yeah never mind yeah all right back will you let's have into the mail back did you pick this
41:24game I think we all took the Chiefs right anyone taking the Raiders we're taking the Chiefs yeah we're all taking the
41:30Chiefs here but if the Raiders win then that's boy that's gonna be amazing I hope they do honestly that's good for
41:36the sport couple of questions from the mailbag definitively Zach wants to know Laporta Isaiah likely or Juwan Johnson I have all
41:42three I would say you're likely to start Sam Laporta I think so too that was good though I got it to
41:48start Laporta I have I do have likely ahead of Laporta this week remember they're playing Arizona that's a good matchup for
41:54that team he's been so heavily targeted I'm gonna give a slight edge to likely but it's a toss-up between those two
42:00I would say I'm gonna give a slight edge to Sam Laporta because his team has scored 30 points and likely has
42:06Jameis Winston oh baby Jack Hayer wants to know got a gross one Chris Godwin RJ Harvey or Darren Waller in my
42:13flex can I start by acknowledging that Zach is acknowledging it's a gross one so shout out to you Jack like I
42:19like the self-awareness yes I'm going Chris really I'm crossing him off without Baker uh me too touch that it's hard enough
42:25to justify a Buka this week I'm gonna go Waller me too baby wow the anti-Waller guy Harvey just I don't know
42:31if you're just gonna get enough there but well I'm not I would say I'm anti-Waller I also moved him up yesterday
42:37because it gets out for that game too and Coker no no no no Michael you moved him out because I had
42:43such a great argument on the podcast thank you yes um yeah so he's definitely justifiable I think so too flex as
42:49a flex based on the other options that you have I think Waller's at least in that mix I'm with Mike on
42:55that one next one here Ricardo Martinez wants to know got St.
42:58Brown for Garrett Wilson and Omari and Hampton is that a good or bad trade whenever we get these after the fact
43:04it's too late he got Amon Ra for Garrett Wilson and Omari and Hampton so you had Garrett Wilson Omari and Hampton
43:10and it's probably tougher in a 12 team or in a 10 team or maybe you have enough running back depth I
43:16think it depends on your running back situation that said I mean not feeling great about Hampton now and obviously the the
43:22wide receivers uh an upgrade I wouldn't say I'm I mean I don't think it's a bad grounds on that tier where
43:28like it is a big upgrade even though Garrett Wilson is probably gonna be a top 10 the rest of the season
43:34this is a close call well I like the he got Amon Ra he got Amon Ra of it yeah I like
43:40I am okay with that yeah even with the charges like it depends what you think of Hampton really I love Hampton
43:46but I think if I could move up from Garrett Wilson to Amon Ra and that all that Lions offense and what
43:52they're gonna do with how bad that defense is I just think there's more to unlock as long as you're not putting
43:58Emmanuel Wilson in your RB2 slot or something like that's it's totally fine sure sure I guess I guess maybe do you
44:04do that do you have teams where he's your RB2 no no I'm saying draft you if you're doing a two for
44:10one like that you he's you need replacement option the guitar maniac wants to know are there any rumors to any are
44:16there any rumors on Tyreek Hill returning this year definitely are the rumors enough that would ever cause you guys to go
44:23out and preemptively add them off of waivers I mean I absent having like a pretty unique yes yeah if you have
44:29like a unique bench spot where you're like I'm currently rostering a second defense like go for it sure but no at
44:35this point we're not doing anything until there's more too many materialized news and options and waiver by week start next week
44:41yeah so we're gonna need those bench spots even more I'm not touching Tyreek right now yeah who's on a bye next
44:47week do you know offhand I said like Carolina I think there's two teams on a bye I have it right here
44:53if you give me a half a second it is the Chiefs and the Panthers we're losing a couple good players big
44:59week for Bryce here because if he's disappoints he's gonna be droppable during bye weeks yeah he lights it up again you
45:05have to keep them here have to hang on Panthers on a bye next week our power right there all right let's
45:11get to it next matchup Cardinals and Giants guys we saw quite a bit out of Jeremiah Love last week yeah baby
45:17is he a lineup block he sure is Jeremiah Love Michael Wilson Trey McBride Cam Scadaboo Malik neighbors Isaiah likely look at
45:23all these lineup blocks yeah you know what this would have been my favorite game of the season I think coming into
45:29the year with you think about all your Giants Max and Dart and obviously Scadaboo did you have Marvin Harrison do you
45:35like wide receiver three I think so I did yes wide receiver three in his own team okay that's yeah I mean
45:41he literally is wide he is what a mess I wonder if he's the next trade we're gonna be watching for in
45:47the coming weeks maybe Brian Thomas is on on watch did you already propose Brian Thomas for Marvin Harrison I think I've
45:53seen that speculated I don't know if that really makes sense for those teams necessarily maybe it makes more sense for Arizona
45:59than it does for Jacksonville they don't Jacksonville's Jacksonville's like we don't need Brian Thomas because we actually love Josh Cameron now
46:05he he's leaping ahead of him at this point so anyway should we talk about Jeremiah love please start there I mean
46:11he's a he's a lineup lock but he is now I want to know more about it Mike is it going to
46:17more about you yeah it's going to continue this week why he's a lineup lock last week he had 26 touches weeks
46:23one and two combined he had 25 touches so a big leap in usage the snaps were way up in that game
46:29he had more yardage in that game than he had did the first two games combined touchdown he had one touchdown the
46:35first two weeks he scored again last week and he's already been heavily involved as a pass catcher I mean he has
46:41three targets or more in every game this season I think that they started slow as we I mean how many times
46:47do we talk about that coming into the season it was going to be a couple weeks before they really ramped him
46:53up that's what they did so I'm curious to see if this sustains going forward you have to imagine it will because
46:59it makes sense like you took you spent the third overall pick on the guy why would you not be giving him
47:0520 plus touches a game so I'm buying on this one and also this is one of his best matchups of the
47:11season that's why I'm I'm really excited for this one because they're playing the Giants they're allowing 5.1 yards per carry to
47:17running back so this is a chance for him to take these 2025 touches and just light it up and prove that
47:24he is a cemented at worst back end RB1 going forward this season yeah feels a lot better right now in week
47:30three than it did to start the season with that high ankle sprain draft I mean he fell in drafts I mean
47:36if you grabbed him and you decided to roll the dice but this is why he's in he's been paying off right
47:42now this is why you take that discount at the 2-3 turn on a player that's drafted third overall I mean he
47:48again my thought was you want to draft a guy at not at his ceiling right and if you think about where
47:54he'll be drafted in 2027 drafts even before the season started in the first round I mean if you're using him the
48:00right way right he should be he should be a superstar he should be one of the best players in football in
48:06fantasy offensive playmaker I mean so it makes perfect sense that he's being utilized this way so I'm I'm pumped about what
48:12happened last week and even more so for here in week four love that I also am surprisingly pumped about what happened
48:18last week but for Isaiah likely which sounds odd because only had 3.3 fantasy points guys but I want to ask you
48:24about a thing Isaiah likely was on this list he was a lineup lot given what the state of the tight end
48:30position looks like I feel like we got Isaiah likely to start this year again massive week one yeah we've seen it
48:36before we've literally lived this this book before one half of a foot away from two touchdowns at the beginning of last
48:42season remember that 27.8 fantasy points this we are this year in week one and then week two 8.3 fantasy points and
48:48then week three 3.3 fantasy points obviously Jackson Dart getting hurt hurts that Jameis Winston did not look fantastic when he came
48:54in and then last week we had all the weather stuff here's the part that gives me excitement week one played 49%
49:00of the snaps week two played 69% of the snaps week three played 85% of the snaps he is clearly moving in
49:06the direction of I am going to be on the field and a part of this offense more even though I see
49:12the fantasy points going the wrong direction from what I want I think it's easy to be able to understand the quarterback
49:18situation the influx of the offense being able to go through all these changes given what his role is and how much
49:24he's gonna be out there still I am not worried I'm a little bit wish casting because I do need his quarterback
49:30to get him the football but I am still starting him as a low-end tight end one because of how much he
49:36has been on the field yeah if Jameis can't put up 250 plus maybe 300 passing yards against Arizona and keep them
49:42competitive they're gonna have to then we're gonna make it JJ McCarthy here like this is a good matchup here for likely
49:48and that's why he belong the combination of the volume and the matchup against Arizona I mean absolutely he should be in
49:54lineups this week but if Jameis struggles here and by the way remember we talked about this when Jameis got the job
50:00I mean due to injury he his last eight games he's put up 20 fantasy point he's averaged around 20 fantasy points
50:06per game he can put up passing numbers last week was a disaster weather-wise it absolutely was and obviously came in in
50:12relief in a tough circumstance in week two so there's still hope here that they can at least we don't need we
50:18don't necessarily need the Giants to win games for our perspective we just need big passing numbers I think you can do
50:25that I was talking earlier about how there are mitigating factors for tight ends and yet you still sort of like yeah
50:31but they're one of the guys that I trust more than the rest of the pack yeah Isaiah likely also part of
50:37this I'm gonna ask you guys a question that's not fantasy related but before move on from the Giants and the Cardinals
50:43maybe you can't figure out what the Odell Beckham jr signing was all about what would the point was I think keep
50:49them on the roster and then they don't play him and they cut him after three weeks yeah I mean you're it
50:55just doesn't work in the NFL especially at that age like you're not playing special teams and you're just right they need
51:01that spot I keep on the roster in the first place is my well they had I guess I don't know yeah
51:07over Darius Slayton I'm not really sure why they did that but I remember after week three you start to see a
51:13lot more transactions because teams will use that trick where you can just promote a guy off the practice squad it's a
51:19lot on Saturdays for three three weeks then they that expires and you need to put them on the active roster to
51:25play so Braxton Berrios fits that bill he's their returner now he's their number four actually they signed Charlie Jones as well
51:31so they just went you got to play special teams and you can't just chill on the sideline was there do something
51:37was it just like a vibes for the fans like definitely help the business like right like definitely help the business neighbors
51:43insurance sure and now that neighbors is out there doesn't feel like we're I mean yeah I don't know probably a few
51:49reasons but yeah I'm thinking the Giants I'm the only one that believes you guys I'm going with the Cardinals yeah I
51:55love love too yeah all right I'm in on that all right let's look at this next one Denver at San Francisco
52:01this one's gonna be a fun one Brock Purdy Christian McCaffrey Mike Evans we'll talk about him George Kittle and Jalen Waddle
52:07basically every 49er that you could potentially start is startable they've become very easy for us Mike Evans if he to play
52:13in this game but if he does play he will be in our lineups that's the thing that's tough with Mike Evans
52:19so he didn't practice first practice of the week had a got a big shot who was the safety took a shot
52:25from last week in the ribs anyways I forget who they played already on the day to Baker maybe that's what was
52:31my buddy Baker anyways he's the problem with Mike Evans not practicing the first day of the week it's like he would
52:37do that anyways as like an old veteran guy anyway so this is just like a thing you're gonna have to monitor
52:43and watch throughout the week to see is he gonna play or not yeah also keep in mind this is not JSN
52:49or someone who I'm on Ross St. Brown moves around the formation he's on the perimeter a lot and that means a
52:55lot of Pat Sertan the second in this one's not ideal very high bust risk for Mike Evans this week I think
53:01this is the biggest test that we have had so far clearly for Brock Purdy yeah I would say so too Brock
53:07Purdy has had two like cake matchups back-to-back he crushed that first game that weird Australia thing but then two cake matchups
53:13back-to-back and he has looked unbelievable we talked about him as maybe that's the maybe the QB3 that we would want so
53:19far this season and remember him in the playoffs last year he had back-to-back weeks is finishing his quarterback one unbelievable with
53:25the Seahawks it was a much different story he has had a history of absolutely destroying the teams he's supposed to destroy
53:32and then it gets much tougher matchups because of some but not elite rushing volume coming way back down to earth it
53:38would help big test out there if he could but yes big test for Brock pretty still an obvious start though for
53:44us this got it it's playing too well yeah is anybody an obvious start amongst the Broncos pass catchers Gail and Waddle
53:50made Mike's lineup locks yeah but even you would probably concede that's a flimsy yeah he was he was borderline but when
53:56you look at the state of wide receiver I think he still fits the bill where you drafted him and after what
54:02we saw in week two I'd be hard-pressed to bench him what does that real Jalen Waddle please stand up though let's
54:08talk through what Jalen's season has looked like to date week one he had three targets that's not going to cut it
54:14and frankly it's not going to cut it if you're the Broncos that paid a legitimate freight to acquire him yeah what's
54:20the point of giving away a first-round pick a third-round pick and a fourth-round swap to throw the ball three times to
54:26this very talented player week two awesome ten targets monster game over 130 receiving yards look like the Jalen Waddle that we
54:32had grown accustomed to at times in Miami and that you would pay that big price for week three seven targets that
54:38part's good the results not so good he had a dud game last week I think Jalen Waddle will be one of
54:44those guys that you still feel compelled to continue to go back to the well with because of the abundance talent and
54:50because this is not the same the Broncos had some tough matchups early on this season I believe at least not sure
54:56it's quite as tough of a matchup on Sunday against San Francisco with all of their defensive injuries this offense though might
55:02be the most agonizing one to have a talented player in because the Broncos have probably the deepest group of pretty good
55:08players but I'm not sure anybody besides Jalen Waddle is a an elite player in their wide receiver running back or tight
55:14end room I and I would push back and say not on what you have said okay but push back on the
55:20idea that he's a lineup lock where you're saying I'd be hard-pressed to find someone else there's so many because he plays
55:26wide receiver there are so many wide receivers that I drafted after Jalen Waddle that have absolutely popped and I would consider
55:32starting this like who Matthew Golden I would start over him this week okay I have him ahead though yeah I mean
55:38Michael Wilson I would start this week also downs I would start this week Jalen Coker I would start this week Christian
55:44Watson I would start this week Parker Washington I like all of these guys are guys that you drafted after Jalen Waddle
55:50that I would say you know what with him being wide receiver 29 if you're 29 at a wide receiver you're at
55:56the very end of that flex radar I just think there's enough guys that if you have the question I'm okay benching
56:02him because of what I've seen from the Broncos but I also get it if he's the best option that you have
56:08and he's the the best flex one you got to roll with that's the tricky part about lineup locks right like you
56:14could be totally stacked at receiver and like okay yeah like that that could happen yeah hit on a couple of guys
56:20you can bend I mean you might be benching Josh Downs because you're really good at wide receiver too sure even though
56:26we have top 20 so fair but also I think in general if I would say for most teams if you have
56:33Jalen Waddle probably starting you're not you're not looking down at the rankings because guys after him are like Carnell Tate and
56:39Stefan Diggs and even Ladd McConkie and like make maybe Mike Evans isn't that conversation like I think in general you're you're
56:45keeping them going I think 17 was it 17 targets the last two games 17 the last two games yeah he's the
56:51only one Bo Nix not uh not in the streaming conversation this week he's a oh I think low end tight end
56:57or low end QB1 I think for Bo like the more important at least the more important dynamic in play for me
57:03is like let's see him stack a few good games in a row before we say to him say to ourselves like
57:09all right Bo back inside that low edge QB1 territory I want to see him run the ball to that injury last
57:15year and hasn't been running this year and sometimes you see that from quarterbacks like we that was our worry with Patrick
57:21Mahomes we saw it a couple years ago with Justin Herbert Jones right now Joe Burrow Daniel Jones right now although he
57:27didn't run a ton last year but Nix a big part of why he's been good in fantasy is his legs and
57:33he has not been running so far you guys taking in this one I'm taking the Broncos 49ers you're the lone Broncos
57:39lone wolf you're the only cowboy in this town that's right don't call me cowboy next one up Titans and arrangers don't
57:45like cowboy guy oh boy guy you're the only John Wayne in this town that's there thank you looks like we have
57:51a second page for the Ravens lineup locks Lamar Jackson Derek Henry's a flowers super chalk for the other side we don't
57:57want to start anybody no one on the Titans both running backs no we don't yeah they've a new number three maybe
58:03number two receiver your guy look I you manor was running was he second in snaps last week for this offense they're
58:09phasing out Calvin Ridley but he's another one it Jerry Judy Calvin Ridley Brian Thomas Marvin Harrison all these guys that you
58:15think are a way trade yeah bro just rotate them all for a week every week we'll rotate them we'll see who
58:21sticks both Tajay Spears and Tony Pollard didn't practice to start the week we'll continue to watch that yeah same as last
58:27week I don't I know that we had a breakout game breakout for Carnell Tate and Wondale Robinson in this Titans offense
58:33last week I'm just not doing it this week against the Ravens think we can until further notice ice any conversation about
58:39the Titans okay I mean Tate had a good game last week and his targets have been good so I'm keeping him
58:45on that flex Raider I don't think well he can work his way on I mean he's in the early 30s around
58:51wide receiver 30 okay all right I like it who are you taking in this game anything on Mark Andrews we're just
58:57skipping ahead yeah what do you want to talk about with Mark yeah I think we should talk about Mark Andrews what
59:03do you want to start Mark Andrews I not well that's the conversation that's let's talk about he's very fascinating his he's
59:09had a target share in the 24 to 25 percent range in all three games so far this is a big number
59:15and consistent from a tight end his target share this season is his highest since 2022 well when he was the number
59:21four scoring fantasy tight end but he's turned 18 targets and do 122 yards on 13 catches no touchdowns and we know
59:27we need touchdowns from right Mark Andrews guys he's gone 10 straight games under 11 fantasy points that is unheard of for
59:34Mark Andrews it's been so disappointing the game scripts will be better they've been ahead on 65 percent of their offensive snaps
59:40and as a result Lamar is 26th and past attempts this year but again they love to run the football they're a
59:46good team they're not going to have great game scripts all the time for the passing game so this is a tough
59:52one for me Tennessee by the way has allowed 48 yards on 18 targets to tight end so far this season so
59:58they've been really good in that department so this is a tough one because again I'm such I'm so usage based and
60:04his usage has been excellent so it's hard to like see a 24 25 percent target share and rank a guy outside
60:10the top 10 especially with the state a tight end like we talked about Andrews might fit that bill because the usage
60:16has not translated so far I know you're so usage based I'm so like is the guy good at football based and
60:22I'm just like not in on Ravens I think is I mean I paid him and moved on from Isaiah likely how
60:28many times NFL teams have paid players a ridiculous amount of money no that cannot just it's a Ravens is a really
60:34good organization and they're winning football games like he's still a big part I don't care if they're winning football games I
60:40want him to do fantasy stuff for me Mike look I agree yeah that was that was a mistake extension it was
60:46I think a little bit of a panic move by the Baltimore Ravens but they have generally been amongst the most fundamentally
60:52sound teams and he's on the field a ton though I cannot like we can't points per on the field that he
60:58scores a touchdown and on this target share and he starts finding the end zone pretty often ends up with eight this
61:04year he's gonna finish tight end seven or something so we'll see who you taking Ravens or Titans Ravens across the board
61:10all right yeah would be quite the upset pick if you're taking Tennessee in Baltimore Raim Sanders pick of the week here
61:16for week four my friends I already kind of tipped my hand I told you where I was gonna go with this
61:22one yesterday yep I'm taking Tommy Tremble 0.2% roster taking on the Detroit Lions oh I did not realize you picked him
61:28I did not realize you picked him I said I'm gonna plead the fifth I am taking Alec Io manner who saw
61:34you legit uptick in snaps last week and we think this team's going to be trailing so give me Alec Io man
61:40yeah I didn't pick him because Titans that was I was like I can't do it wow I can't do it so
61:46I went with a guy in a better offense but this guy's very tiny receiver that makes me a little nervous maybe
61:52gets a return touchdown but Dante Myers who guys had a 58% route participation last week with no Andre Ossivas he's on
61:58IR Myers has taken that number three job was third on the team last week at five targets in that game and
62:04again he could mix in as a returner they rolled back as returning a little bit last week Keyshawn Williams took some
62:10of that on because Myers is playing so much offense but they he is a couple ways he can get the end
62:16Mike I need you to give me one former team that Dante Myers played on college or any other professional team Colorado
62:22Avalanche I was didn't he come from the UFL he came from the CFO CFL CFL CFL that's with the Saskatchewan Rough
62:28Riders before playing that he was the college football at Presbyterian and Delta State did you see speaking of the Colorado Avalanche
62:35did you see Nathan McKinnon drop the gloves last night no I did not see that oh boy he was getting after
62:41I saw the Flyers getting absolutely demolished I was like I'm not even looking at hockey the rest of the night because
62:47that was that was hurtful how crazy is it that we still have a wait we got another pick who did the
62:53producers pick Torrey Horton we had Torrey Horton for that one guy Seahawks wide receiver Torrey Horton yeah I like that how
62:59come you can still fight in hockey five fighting is a great song it's grandfathered in that's what it is there are
63:05a lot of things about hockey that are make the culture incredibly unique it's great it is yeah guys like break hands
63:11and they miss like a shift yeah I could not do that no it's not face of the puck is it Ramsey
63:17broke his broke his wrist or whatever he broke his wrist yeah he's playing with that he's likely to play through that
63:23that's wild yeah he's guys are built different uh-huh have fun watching Thursday night football I've had two surgeries over the past
63:29two years I've only missed one show no big deal no big deal just saying uh we're gonna be back tomorrow we're
63:35gonna recap everything that happened tonight and we're gonna be ready for the rest of week four we love you guys don't
63:41forget to love each other and be kind to yourself we'll see you guys tomorrow morning bye friends you in the hole
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