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Above and Bijan: The Falcons are Back, Plus Week 4 Winners and Losers

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1 hr 6 min
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Oct 6, 2026
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Tue, October 6, 2026
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Bryce YoungBijan RobinsonDrake MayeTeddy BridgewaterC.J. StroudChase BrownChris OlaveDak PrescottJoe BurrowMichael Penix Jr.Alvin KamaraBrian RobinsonCeeDee LambDemario Douglas
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Alvin Kamara

NegativeRole19:45

Alvin Kamara in a three-headed backfield with Kendrick Miller and another back; Saints' running game has not improved despite offseason investments in David Edwards and Travis H, indicating Kamara's workload remains limited and unpredictable.

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Bijan Robinson

PositiveProjection8:30

Robinson continues to produce bonkers performances; in Week 4 against New Orleans, he and Brian Robinson Jr. both posted 57% success rate on the ground, but Bijan's explosiveness and ability to turn negative plays into positive ones remain elite. Mina Kimes and Ben Solak both emphasize he's the best running back in football. The Falcons' outside-zone scheme with Bijan crossing the line of scrimmage with velocity is nearly impossible to defend; even when defenses fire second-level blitzers, the Falcons' simple philosophy of getting Bijan moving downhill means he consistently solves problems at the point of attack. This is a team you do not want to fall behind to.

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PositiveUsage24:30

Over the last two weeks, Bijan Robinson and Drake Maye have combined for 680 yards from scrimmage, which would rank them 17th in the league in total yardage output if they were a team—right between the Bills and Chargers. The Falcons lead the league in yards from scrimmage over the last two weeks with 918 total, demonstrating Robinson's central role in the offense's recent success.

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PositiveProjection24:40

Over the last two weeks, Bijan Robinson and Drake Maye have combined for 680 yards from scrimmage; if they were a team, they would rank 17th in the league in total yardage output, between the Bills and Chargers—league average production from a running back and quarterback duo.

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PositiveProjection24:55

Mina Kimes is willing to argue that Bijan Robinson should be in the MVP conversation if the Falcons win the division, though she acknowledges the competition from strong quarterback seasons (Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence) will make it difficult; she expresses belief in the conversation for a running back MVP.

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Brian Robinson

NegativeUsage8:30

Brian Robinson Jr. posted a 57% success rate on the ground in Week 4, matching Bijan Robinson's efficiency. However, Bijan's explosiveness and ability to turn negative plays into positive ones remain the primary focus of the Falcons' running game.

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Bryce Young

PositiveRole27:48

Bryce Young's arm talent and twitch enable the Panthers to attack different defensive weaknesses through RPO schemes; his ability to get the ball out of the mesh point extremely fast allows them to exploit very small windows, and his mobility to break defensive structure on scrambles by freezing defensive ends and pulling defenders out of position creates explosive plays.

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NegativeUsage27:48

Bryce Young faces the highest quick pressure rate of any quarterback in the league right now, though this is somewhat conflated by the Panthers' RPO schemes which welcome pressure; however, outside of RPOs, he does have a propensity to hold onto the football, though he played faster in the Lions game than earlier in the season.

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PositiveRole37:35

Bryce Young demonstrates exceptional composure and lack of panic under pressure, which is the most striking aspect of his play this season; he executes the Panthers' offense effectively and shows improved accuracy, particularly over the middle of the field where he has a 72% precision pass rate—the best in the NFL according to True Media, ahead of Trevor Lawrence.

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PositiveProjection39:51

Bryce Young's improvement in middle-of-the-field accuracy and comfort represents one of the bigger turnarounds in quarterbacking talent; this shift from being terrified and late on middle throws in 2023-24 to finding windows like Drew Brees is comparable to Sam Darnold's transformation from seeing ghosts under pressure to ripping throws, and it's integral to the Panthers' ability to attack defenses.

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PositiveProjection44:33

Bryce Young has shown an exponential level-up in performance through week four, with consistently improving numbers throughout his NFL career but now demonstrating a significant jump; Mina Kimes notes this represents a major step forward from his previous trajectory and warrants monitoring as the season progresses against stiffer competition.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveProjection54:53

CJ Stroud has been great this season considering the Texans can't run the ball and he was missing both wide receivers one and two for several games; he is not the problem with the Texans' offense, and the focus should shift to the defense's struggles.

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PositiveProjection63:49

Continues to perform at an elite level with consistent 19-20+ yard completions; there was a moment of doubt about his ability early in the season, but he has proven to be genuinely excellent and is playing at an MVP-caliber level.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveUsage55:39

Caught 17 passes in Week 4 against Houston; ran more routes from the slot in this game than in any other game under Brian Schottenheimer except one, exploiting Texans' coverage vulnerabilities and defensive communication breakdowns in the secondary.

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Chase Brown

NegativeProjection15:11

Chase Brown and the Bengals' run game have dropped from around 10th in success rate last season to around 20th this season despite facing light boxes; the decreased efficiency on fewer reps is completely deterring the team from committing to the run, though the source notes this is only week four and development is not linear.

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NegativeUsage46:25

Chase Brown ran nine times for 10 yards in the Bengals' loss to the Jaguars, part of a broader offensive strategy where the Bengals were 80% pass in the game; running backs combined for 12 carries and 17 yards total, reflecting the team's abandonment of the run game despite it being an efficient running game last season.

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Chris Olave

NegativeUsage20:00

Chris Alave receiving high volume in Saints offense due to their inability to run the ball; Mina Kimes is an enormous Alave fan but expresses concern about high-volume usage pattern, noting he was still in the game at the end of Week 4 despite the Saints' struggles, suggesting unsustainable target load.

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NegativeRole23:00

Alave was on the receiving end of a well-executed throw from Tyler Shuck on an out-breaker route while Shuck was getting hit at his own goal line, demonstrating the receiver's continued role in the Saints passing game despite the team's offensive struggles.

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Dak Prescott

PositiveMatchup56:16

Dak Prescott had a dominant performance against the Texans' defense, which recorded only a 2% quick pressure rate—the lowest the Texans have had in a game since playing Lamar Jackson in 2024; this stat is described as 'very impressive' and reflects the Cowboys' ability to carve up the Texans' defense.

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NegativeProjection59:12

Demonstrated elite pocket management and pre-snap reads against Houston's defense; consistently stepped up in the pocket to avoid edge rushers and was never wrong in his decision-making, with frequent 19-20+ yard completions and ability to get the ball out on time for receivers to break tackles.

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Demario Douglas

NegativeRole29:00

DeMario Douglas was cited as a limiting factor in the Patriots' early-season offensive struggles. Mina Kimes notes that Douglas doesn't have the biggest catch radius, which was a point of failure in the static, high-precision offensive concepts the Patriots ran in Weeks 1-3. This was part of the reason the offense needed to simplify and move away from complex reads that required perfect execution from receivers.

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Drake London

PositiveRole6:00

Drake London is Penix's primary target and the receiver he trusts most. In Week 4, London was destroying Quincy Riley on the outside, and Penix clearly has much better chemistry with him than other receivers—he missed open targets like John Dotson on in-breakers early in the game but connected with London consistently. Mina Kimes noted Penix threw to London with Drew Brees-level accuracy but was less precise to other receivers. London also contributed as a blocker, cracking down on Saints defenders to spring Bijan Robinson on outside-zone runs.

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Drake Maye

PositiveUsage24:30

Over the last two weeks, Drake Maye and Bijan Robinson have combined for 680 yards from scrimmage, which would rank them 17th in the league in total yardage output if they were a team—right between the Bills and Chargers. The Falcons lead the league in yards from scrimmage over the last two weeks with 918 total, demonstrating Maye's central role in the offense's recent success.

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PositiveProjection24:40

Drake Maye and Bijan Robinson have combined for 680 yards from scrimmage over the last two weeks; if they were a team, they would rank 17th in the league in total yardage output, between the Bills and Chargers—demonstrating league-average production from the rookie quarterback.

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PositiveProjection26:00

Drake May showed marked improvement in Week 4 after the Patriots made substantive offensive changes designed to reduce decision-making burden. Play action rate increased from 13% (Weeks 1-3) to 20% in Week 4; motion at snap rose from 32% to 52%; condensed formations hit 38% (highest of any McDaniels-May game, up from 23% prior). The simplified scheme with reduced pre-snap reads, more isolations, and quick-hitting plays like shovel options on first-and-10 created a calmer environment. May displayed improved poise, willingness to scramble versus man coverage reminiscent of his rookie season, and fewer disastrous plays, though he still had fumble issues. Mina Kimes notes the offense moved from static, high-failure-point concepts relying on May's precision to more forgiving, strength-based calls with better blocking schemes.

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NegativeProjection27:01

After the Jaguars game, there was narrative concern that Drake Maye was spiraling and that everything was terrible; however, Mina Kimes contextualizes this as the kind of overreaction that happens with young quarterbacks, noting that having experienced coaches like Josh McDaniels and Mike Brayble helps stabilize the situation.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeUsage49:32

Joe Burrow dropped back 54 times against the Jaguars and was hit 20 times in the game; both of his interceptions came because of pressure as the pocket condensed on him, illustrating the consequences of the Bengals' 80% pass rate and inability to establish a running game.

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NegativeRole49:32

Joe Burrow stated after the Jaguars game that he thinks the Bengals should throw it more, citing that they're good at it and his line's pass protection is great; however, this reflects a one-dimensional offensive approach that leaves him vulnerable to pressure and hits when the run game isn't working.

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Michael Penix Jr.

PositiveProjection2:39

Through two weeks, Penix is showing clear developmental growth in his 14th career start. He's hammering seams between the numbers and hashes (65% of attempts, 11-for-13 for 175 yards and a score in Week 4), placing the ball relative to coverage, and layering throws with different velocities—a marked improvement from his early-career fastball-only approach. His arm strength enables the Falcons' play-action attack to function as a kill-shot offense rather than just efficient peppering; off play action he's averaging 11 yards per attempt (third in NFL) with 62% of passes over 15 yards (first in NFL, excluding screens). Ben Solak notes this is an easy environment given the Falcons' historic running game production, but the film shows genuine understanding of the offense and functional athleticism to make play-action concepts work.

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PositiveProjection25:15

Michael Penix Jr. is positioned as a Comeback Player of the Year candidate if he maintains his current performance level; Mina Kimes calls him a deserving candidate who has returned from injury in the manner the award should recognize.

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Nico Collins

PositiveRole64:01

His presence dramatically improves the Texans offense; Mina Kimes stated she would vote for him for MVP, calling him 'the most valuable player in football,' and noting how much better the offense looks with him as the number one wide receiver.

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Romeo Doubs

NegativeRole29:12

Romeo Dobbs was identified as a consistent liability in the Patriots' early-season offense, with Mina Kimes noting he had a bad drop every single week during Weeks 1-3. This was cited as one of several points of failure that made the static, high-precision offensive scheme untenable and contributed to the need for offensive simplification.

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Samaje Perine

NegativeUsage46:25

Samaje Perine carried the ball three times for seven yards in the Bengals' loss to the Jaguars, part of the team's 12-carry, 17-yard total output from running backs in an 80% pass game.

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Teddy Bridgewater

PositiveRole40:54

Teddy Bridgewater (referred to as 'Ted' in the transcript) is being used extensively in the slot against the Lions, leveraging his size and frame to work the middle of the field where he boxes out DBs and gets leverage; he catches everything and has decent pull-away speed, making him an important part of the route tree despite not being a burner.

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PositiveRole41:40

Teddy Bridgewater demonstrates exceptional quarterback-friendliness by adjusting his routes relative to coverage; he recognizes cover zero looks early (like getting into his route two steps early on a slant touchdown when the nickel fires), and on glance routes he bends his route back closer to the quarterback when he realizes he's getting doubled, ensuring the ball reaches him before the safety—a skill not all receivers execute, especially a 6'4" player traditionally on the outside.

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PositiveProjection42:31

Teddy Bridgewater put up 101 yards against the Falcons and has the ability to go 20 yards and shove a guy, adding a physical dimension to his game beyond the slot work; this production came without Coker in the lineup, making the Falcons' win over the Panthers look more impressive in retrospect.

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Episode Transcript

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0:25We will also be discussing some winners and losers from Week 4 of the NFL season.
0:29I am joined, as I will be always this season, by my friend, the host of League Wide, Ben Solak.
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0:57Hey, man. Two weeks ago, nobody thought we'd be talking about the Atlanta Falcons.
1:01We were talking about the Atlanta Falcons tanking, Cooper Rush, abysmal offense, disaster season.
1:05Yep. Friend of the pod, Greg Rosenthal, tweeted before the Packers game, he was like, there's three straight Falcons primetime games.
1:11And I responded, I was like, no, thank you.
1:14And that response now has about 40 responses from Falcons fans with just gifs of just great London.
1:19Like they didn't feel the same way after week two.
1:21Okay. So we're going to start by talking about the Falcons glorious win for them over New Orleans.
1:26What it all means before we get to winners and wolves, Drake may talk perhaps might be in the offing some Panthers talk.
1:33So you can give the NFC South, but let's start with the Falcons offense because that's obviously been a, well, actually, I
1:39kind of think the defense might be more surprising, but put a pin in that let's focus on Michael Penix Jr.
1:45and Bijan Robinson and how they absolutely torched the New Orleans saints.
1:48Now, two weeks, by the way, of this Falcons offense, putting up 30 plus points, looking like an absolute juggernaut.
1:54All right. So look, it obviously starts with Bijan, but I want to focus on Michael Penix Jr.
1:59because after week one, after his week one, the Thursday, I was like, that's cool.
2:03He did some things he didn't do last year.
2:06Let's see it again. So we've seen it a bit again, Ben, and give me your like two weeks in scouting report
2:12on this version of Michael Penix Jr. This offense.
2:14I have a lot of thoughts too. I want to get to, but let me hear you first.
2:19I like what I'm seeing from Michael Penix Jr.
2:22I really do. And, and the thing that shocked me last night, I went to go double check and I was like,
2:28all right, this is a really nice game for Penix.
2:31Where's the stack over the rest of his career starts, like whatever.
2:34And you go and you find all Penix's career starts and the table is just a lot shorter than it is for everybody else.
2:41Wait a minute. This is his 14th start in the NFL.
2:44We're not even a season in yet in terms of total Penix games, right?
2:48So if you contextualize this as a game we would see in December of a player's rookie season, you'd be like, hey, light bulbs on.
2:55Like we've got something here from a developmental perspective.
2:57He hammers the seams, right? Between the numbers and the hashes in this game, 65% of his attempts, he was 11 for
3:0413 for 175 yards and a score. Obviously when you have a running game that's working this well, it's a really safe
3:10incubator for a quarterback to play well. Cause you get to have a lot of play action pass, but they're getting under center with him.
3:17He's ripping, not just in breakers, but outbreakers. He's placing the ball relative to coverage.
3:21He's layering the ball better. One of my big frustrations with Penix over his first couple of seasons was it was all fastballs.
3:27The Drake London outbreaking route is a little bit of a changeup.
3:31It's a softer throw. It's meant to sit him down against coverage.
3:34So we started to show different pitches in our bag a little bit.
3:38There's very clear growth, development, understanding of the offense.
3:40We do, we do need to see this in a position where the Falcons aren't front running.
3:45Like I said, the Falcons running game has produced over 20 expected points over the last two combined games.
3:50It's historic numbers. So we have to remember that this is easy environment.
3:54We should throw the football when you're ripping off seven yards per carry, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the film looks good.
4:01Right. Well, the, the, the front running aspect, I think the thing you can definitively say is this is not a team
4:07you want to play from behind against. Like, you know what I mean?
4:11Like because of, because of the combination of their ability to run the football and, and Bijan, you know, being the best back in the NFL.
4:18But also that they now have a play action monster quarterback.
4:21And that's, what's different here, right? Like the fact that you can put him under center, that you can make everything look
4:28fairly similar and that he can hit these throws downfield.
4:30It's interesting to play the fabulous play action passing attacks really interesting because he's under center, but they're not like booting him out.
4:37Most of the time there's a little like half rolls and, or just straight drawbacks.
4:41And it's bombs. So off of play action right now, Michael Penix Jr.
4:45Is averaging 11 yards per attempt, which is third league wide.
4:4850% of his play action passes are over 15 yards, which is the first in the NFL.
4:52If you take out the screens, cause they've had some that have popped off, it goes up to 62%.
4:58So, so right now it's, it's like a, you know, he's like reigning threes in addition to the efficiency slash explosiveness of the run game.
5:05And it's really hard to stop because like you said, he is hitting those throws and has enough functional athleticism for them
5:11to actually make it all marry together in a way that it just was not under Zach Robinson.
5:16By the way, Falcons fans. Wow. They hate that guy.
5:19Yes. And, and especially with the bus being owned for right now, they are all over it.
5:24They, you know, like the box are like 98%, 11 personnel made up number, not real, but like the one leader, everything
5:30there's everything that they felt like was wrong with the offense last year.
5:33He's doing for an own for Tampa Bay team while they are, you know, two and two and much benefiting from Tommy Reese and Kevin Stefanski.
5:41So I understand the, the buildup ire is definitely, especially in primetime games when you're the only subject material.
5:46It's a, I was informed very angrily last night by Penix fans, by Falcons fans, excuse me, that I'm a big Michael Penix hater.
5:53I didn't know this about myself, but I was being told by a lot of them that I've always been a doubter and I'm a bad person.
6:00I don't even know your takes on Penix. I tweeted during the game that he's, he's like, he's like Drew Brees level
6:06accurate when he throws to Drake London. And then he's like me level accurate and throws to everybody else.
6:12Cause he kept missing the other receivers. You can tell he doesn't trust the other receivers the way he trusts.
6:17There was early in the game. Aikman was like, Oh, he had Dotson.
6:21I'm reminded John Dotson is an Atlanta Falcon in this moment on the in breaker.
6:25But it's like, you can tell he doesn't want, he wants to throw to Drake London.
6:30And honestly, I don't blame him because Drake London is awesome.
6:33Drake London was also destroying Quincy Riley in this game.
6:35Like the, you know, as a big Quincy Riley fan, you know, is an, is built like a nickel.
6:41He's playing on the outside. He's an off cover player.
6:44You see Drake London coming out of the locker room, like slender man, man.
6:47It is not just not a good, good matchup for Quincy Riley player, but no Penix had like, he had a third down sack.
6:54He had a third down missed Dotson. Like, you know, it very clearly just has much better chemistry with Drake.
7:00Nobody else is going back to last season. Then he hits the beautiful Johan Dotson, a deep touchdown, right?
7:05When there's salt in the game way there in the second half where, you know, he's got like the entire end zone to throw it to.
7:12He hits it. It's a nice act of throw.
7:15And then Falcons fans were just over the moon about it.
7:18And so I would be too, if I, if I got to sit on my couch and watch Bajon Robinson play, I
7:24also would be talking a disproportionate amount of cash money.
7:27So I respect it. I absolutely do. And like I said, he's 14, 14 starts into his career.
7:32So I'm very much still jury out on Penix.
7:34The other thing, just one more thing I'll say about Penix too, is like, it really just shows the benefit of having
7:41a quarterback with legit arm strength in a run first play action centric offense, because he doesn't have to be a machine.
7:47He doesn't have to throw it a zillion times.
7:49Again, like you said, they had a lead here, but because he can hit the post corner, you know, from the opposite
7:55head, like because he can make every throw is in his arsenal because his arm is so strong.
8:01Like you said, touch has been the question mark, not strength.
8:04It just, because there's so much focus on the running backs and the offensive line is quite good.
8:09You have the ability, not just to punish teams for over indexing to stop the run.
8:13You have the opportunity to kill them. Like he can hit kill shot.
8:17You know what I mean? Like it's a little bit different from like, uh, like a little, like a more efficient guys, just peppering them.
8:24And it's not, this is not that type of offense.
8:27He will get it all back or not all back, but he will.
8:30If you, as the saints did in this game, get two downhill, even a step, he can kill you over the top.
8:36Yep. Uh, I do wish they had another like speed, like another receiver kind of thinking about that.
8:41But, um, right now it's certainly more than enough with these.
8:44They're trying to get Zach branch there. You can tell every week, Zach branch has got four more snaps on offense.
8:50He's got one more design touch and they are, they are just piecemealing in the playbook.
8:55And I think it's in anticipation of we're going to have games down the stretch here in the back half where, yeah,
9:01we need, uh, you know, guys blow the top off the defense and they expect branch to be that guy.
9:07I think, uh, I don't want to skip over B John Robinson.
9:10I know we were just like, and it's Bijan Robinson.
9:13And of course he puts up another absolutely bonkers game.
9:16It's interesting. Both him and Brian Robinson jr had almost the exact same success rate in this game on the ground.
9:2157%, which is just a very efficient run game regardless of who's carrying it.
9:25But of course, when B John has the ball, explosives are on the table, turning negative plays into positive ones is on the table.
9:32Um, quite clearly the best running back in football with all due respect to Jameer Gibbs, who's excellent as well.
9:38Uh, and, um, it, yeah, I think that like, if I, if I feel comfortable saying something about the Atlanta Falcons offense
9:44through four weeks of the NFL season is now that they have functional quarterback play, which is, you know, and then maybe
9:50even then some, this is just not a team you want to fall behind to.
9:54I think that's just kind of the summary of it.
9:57I was watching this game and I was reminded of the question you asked me last week where you were like, Hey,
10:03all these defenses are firing second level blitzers against under central.
10:06Right. How do you solve the problem? And I was like, well, you get to the boundaries and you can get away
10:12from the eight gap and the V gap blitzes.
10:15Brandon Staley walks out and he's like, all right, I'm going to play my corners 95 yards off and I'm going to fire players on the interior.
10:22Right. And the Falcon said, okay, we were on stretch.
10:25Like, are you sure you want B John hitting the line of scrimmage with speed third, you know, third play of the game, first touch of the game.
10:33And, and, and Gould McKintree's 10 yards off. Drake London goes to stock block him.
10:37Kool-Aid doesn't see it fast enough. Safe is trying to tell him to go.
10:41By the moment you get that miscommunication handled, the crack replace B John.
10:45Okay. Like, is he still in tackleable range technically, but he's got velocity crossing line of scrimmage.
10:50It's you, you aren't, you aren't with, with, with the legion of boom, you are not going to get enough tacklers and
10:56a physicality, enough speed in the third level to deal with B John.
10:59If he's consistently crossing the line of scrimmage with velocity, right?
11:02With the, so much of the theory behind like modern run defense right now is all these early down blitzes.
11:08Yeah. And we're going to slow balls down behind the line of scrimmage.
11:12We're going to create disruption and make backs pitter patter, pitter patter, pitter patter.
11:16And what the Falcons can do by just saying like, LOL outside zone is they're just, they're just agnostic to it.
11:21And they say, we're going to get B John with speed moving to line of scrimmage.
11:26And then he's just going to, if there are problems, he'll solve them for us.
11:30And if we catch you into a bad luck and we get a combination block, good night, go home.
11:35It is. It's beautiful simplicity with the Falcons have going on right now in the running game.
11:40Um, it should be noted. The saints were missing both Caden Ellis and Carl Granderson, who probably their best two run defenders as I was thinking about.
11:48And Ferney Jennings out, Kristen Miller out. Oh, and Ferney Jennings out.
11:51A lot of guys. Yeah. Yeah. Kristen Miller is the nose that they drafted this year.
11:56Who's been banged up. Yeah. So, which was a big part of the reason why I picked Atlanta.
12:01I flipped it when I saw the injuries ahead of NFL live.
12:04Like that's just, those are just not, I don't know if the result would have been different if they had played, but
12:10I do think they would have had a much better shot as her in terms of this run defense.
12:15They were pretty outmanned. Um, I guess really quickly before we flip to the other side of the ball on the saints
12:22defense, like this is a defense that I'll be at with those guys has given up some pretty big performances on the ground.
12:28To be fair, it was against Detroit and Baltimore.
12:31And this is Atlanta. Those are maybe like three of the four or five best run games in the NFL.
12:36So like, do you think this is this run defense is as abysmal as it has looked?
12:41Or do you think it's like a product of injuries and just very difficult competition?
12:45I would say it's like 40, 60. I do think the injuries mattered quite a bit in this game because you just,
12:51they constantly lost to the point of attack. Like the amount of runs that were already like three yards before contact, before
12:57we even get into the Bajon Robinson, I never get tackled by the first or the second guy world.
13:03So I give them a lot of grace for the injuries.
13:06I give them a lot of grace for the opponents, right?
13:09The Falcons offense, you can say the same thing where these two big games have been against John Gannon and Brandon Staley,
13:15who are like the two leaders in the clubhouse for like, I'm going to play with 45 guys in the secondary and do creative stuff and run defense.
13:23And it's like, all right, I'm very interested to see this Falcons running game, which I think will remain very effective.
13:29But how effective exactly against more traditional teams or more traditional run defense solution?
13:33So it's, it's, we're four weeks in. It's our heart wants to say the sample sizes are big enough to know things.
13:39But the reality is that four weeks is just twice as many as two weeks, which is twice many as one week, which is barely anything, right?
13:46Like it's, it's, we still are at the point where who you played has mattered a lot and who you've had available has mattered a lot.
13:54And so I'm not closing the door on our brain and silly defense.
13:57I was pretty excited about coming into this season.
14:00But when Staley loses, it's because opposing offenses say, all right, if you really want to give us this front structure, these
14:06light boxes, then we will hammer you with us until you die.
14:09And, and Staley is a pretty obstinate guy and he doesn't switch it up in game.
14:14And I don't know what he would, I mean, what were you going to do?
14:18I know there was a point. I don't know if you caught on the broadcast when Aikman was like, yeah, brand stay for the game.
14:25Looked like he knew he had no chance. I was like, geez, dude, paraphrasing, but, um, I have great news.
14:31You have the same, the, the, pardon me, the Vikings next week.
14:34So there you go. The saints saints defense. Yeah.
14:37The, the, the saints, that's not good news for Tyler's duck.
14:40We're going to get to you. The four games have been, have been all four games have been weird with like the
14:46overtime comebacks and the late, and like they convert on 16 fourth downs and everything.
14:50Yeah. Yeah. I know you're not seller dwelling. I know you're not clear playoff team.
14:54You're somewhere in the middle tier, but where exactly are we go every week?
14:58I can't, I mean, look at the competition. Like I said, week one lions lose 30, 31 Baltimore.
15:03They beat the Raiders. That loss looks better day by day as the Kirk cousins, powerhouse Raiders.
15:08And then the Falcons might be good too. I don't know.
15:11So yeah, they've got the Vikings, the giants, the Steelers, the Browns are the next four games.
15:16So those are a step down in offenses. I think this defense will play better.
15:20I do fear the, uh, offensive line situation, which we should get to on the other side of the ball.
15:25Okay. There's two ways to look at this. One is what I alluded to earlier, which is, is this Falcons defense better than what we thought?
15:33And then the other is, Oh my God, the saints often supplied.
15:36Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
15:39Tyler shock. Please survive. Um, let's start with the Falcons defense side of it because I, that's right now through the four
15:45weeks again, I know it's early, but like to me, one of the most shocking, I truly believe this shocking developments thus
15:51far in the NFL season is that this Falcons defense without its past rushers has been at minimum good getting after the quarterback.
15:57Sometimes great in this. Now some of that has to do with, you know, the opponent, obviously green Bay offensive line, New
16:04Orleans offensive lines are very bad, but like, where the hell are these defensive in this game?
16:08First of all, in this game, uh, the state, the, uh, the Falcons offensive line, uh, gave up four pressures total.
16:14Right. Which is what happens when you can run the ball and play action guys.
16:18The saints tackles gave up 11 each each. Woo.
16:21Not good. 35 total. Uh, and some of that is because they were in, you know, passing situations.
16:26And some of that is because they are bad and need a couple of banks junior back, but my God, these saints,
16:32these Falcons defensive linemen and on the season. Now Mason Smith, two A's Mason Smith is thirdly wide in, in double team
16:38rate and first in past rush win amongst defensive tackles.
16:41Brandon Dorliss third and pass rush win. And like, those are, it's not always like a perfect stat, especially just early in
16:47the season, but the eye test also matches it.
16:50Like they're, they're just, where did this version of girl Dexter come from?
16:53Yep. What is happening? 17.1% pressure rate for Javon Dexter.
16:56It's the best among all defensive tackles. Brandon Dorliss is second at 15%.
17:00The two best defense tackles right now by pressure per password snap are both Atlanta Falcons.
17:04We're talking about a guy who was, who was traded.
17:07They traded for a fifth round pick in Clark Phillips.
17:10And then a tweener who was a third round pick three years ago.
17:14Right. The, the edge rushers right now, Zedarius Smith is ninth in pressure rate, 18.8%.
17:18One year, $6 million deal. Cameron Thomas, who was on the Browns and just didn't make the roster one year, $3 million.
17:24And, and he's, he's, he's set. He's 11th. He's 17th in pressure rate, 11th in total pressures.
17:29This is not on a small sample size. I think I like, I think you and I could get five pressures combined onto Jeff Ulbrich defense.
17:36I think we could, man. Like I did every player who plays for this guy.
17:40The crazy thing is they're not even like blitzing.
17:43Like they did last year. Last year, the Ulbrich defense was top five in blitz rate this year.
17:48They're, they're 28th. Thus far. They're seventh in quarterback hit rate.
17:51I mean, I, I just, I don't know. I'm like, I'm like, I'm looking at like Samson.
17:55Evokom was a cold. So he followed, he followed Nate Ollie, the defensive line coach there.
18:00Yaseer Abdullah. I don't even remember how they got Yaseer Abdullah onto the team.
18:04He actually be a Jaguar. He had five pressures in this game.
18:07Like it's, it's, it's a team. It feels like when you're watching a preseason game, forgive me.
18:12Cause this is, this is rude to these guys, but it feels like when you're watching a preseason game and you're like,
18:18I'm like, you remember from those Rams defenses. Oh yeah.
18:21He was at Rutgers. You know, like that's how it feels.
18:24Jeff Ulbrich might just be the best pass rush specialist in the NFL or something.
18:28I, I don't know. I mean, some of it has to do with the competition.
18:32Obviously playing these two offensive lines helps a lot.
18:35Um, but. Ulbrich's also got that Jim Schwartz DNA to him.
18:38We're like every time after another Falcons bottom of the roster, pass rusher has like an unbelievable play.
18:43You expect the sideline to cut to him and just see him like Robert Sala freaking out, going nuts, whatever.
18:49They cut to him. He's just got his wonderfully manicured beard.
18:52Just like. Yeah. Yeah. This is what I do.
18:54Right. He's like, he's just so chill. He kills me.
18:57Facial expression never changed over the course of the game.
19:00Every time they showed him. Um, yeah. And right.
19:02This was also, that was also one where you clean house.
19:05You keep one coach. Sometimes that works out. It's the right decision.
19:09Uh, vastly different quarterbacking environment for Tyler Shuck than Michael Bennington.
19:12I felt bad for him in this game. I know.
19:15I don't want, I mean, I'm really not trying to sound like an apologist here, but he had no shot.
19:20And honestly, he made some pretty damn good throws with people getting walked.
19:24Um, but it was just impossible. I mean, the, and the, the, again, some of that has to do with the offensive line.
19:30Some of that has to do with the surprisingly good Falcons pass rush, but this Saints team has not been able to run the ball all year long.
19:38And that continues from last season and they invested in trying to fix it.
19:42And you had David Edwards, you signed Travis H and, and it's just not working.
19:46I mean, HN's hurt, but it's just not good.
19:49It wasn't when he was in there, he was in a three headed backfield with him, Kendrick Miller and Alvin Kamara.
19:55Uh, you know, they went in the multiple tight end route, right.
19:58Where they went and they acquired Oscar Delp in the draft and they got into a fan free agency and it's David Edwards.
20:04And they, they did all the things that in the off season we look at, we say, okay, collectively, you know, the,
20:11the, the accumulation of all of this, the running game will improve and then just complete flop right from, from week one.
20:17So to me, that's a guy, that's a bit of a Kellen Moore question.
20:21It's a bit of a, you know, run game coordinator question.
20:24They brought over like Eagles guys to do what they were doing with the Eagles in 24.
20:29Turns out that again, if you don't have Jeff Stouten, you don't actually have it.
20:33Uh, and so just, they, they are a gun running team without a particularly good mobile quarterback.
20:38Like Chuck can move, but he's not like an actual like dual threat caliber of a guy.
20:42They're not diverse enough. And then they're not, you know, well coached enough across the office line to kind of live that way.
20:49And so, yeah, it becomes a, we have to throw 85 stop routes to Chris Alave and, you know, and 35 shallows
20:55to Devon Valle and slants to Devon Valle in order to kind of push the ball to actually matriculate the ball down
21:01the field, which I love this Chris Alave season as much as the next guy.
21:05Don't get me wrong. I, uh, enormous Alave fan.
21:08High volume. Chris Alave scares the bejesus out of me.
21:11Why was he still in the game at the end?
21:13I was so angry. And so like when, when Tyson comes back and you can hopefully get some snaps down from Alave.
21:19Okay, cool. And then you're going to be a little bit more dangerous down the field.
21:24Okay, great. And it's a more bigger place, which they've already done at points of the season, right?
21:29They're trying to make Bryce Lance thing. They just cannot connect down the field, but there, you're, all of it is manufactured.
21:35All of this to replace having a healthy running game.
21:38This offense is always going to feel like it's on a knife's edge until they can actually handle football off.
21:44Yeah, I, what's the deal with Kevin Banks Jr., by the way?
21:47Out for the season. Wait, I thought he was going to come back at the end of the year.
21:52He's out for the whole season? I thought it was out for the season.
21:56Oh my God. Yeah. It says he's injured reserve out indefinitely.
21:59Ankle surgery out indefinitely. I thought, oh my God.
22:02Oh, that's so brutal. Maybe, maybe he can potentially be back at the end of the season.
22:07Yeah. He has a chance of returning before the season is over from the Saints prior two weeks ago.
22:12So I was, I knew he was placed on long-term injured reserve.
22:15I didn't realize that there's a shot. I don't know.
22:18Calvin Banks, when we say 16 ain't solving this offense though.
22:21Right. I mean, like, they needed a step from Talese Pouaga at right tackle.
22:25Haven't gotten it. Right. Guard center guard, David Edwards, Eric McCoy, Cesar Ruiz.
22:29I think everybody's been under expectation right now. Not been a good group.
22:32The tackles are the real problem though. And that's such brutal news with Banks Jr.
22:36And yeah, it's, this was supposed to be like the, oh, we got Tyler Shuck, improved circumstances, improved run game.
22:42We got him a receiver. We liked what we saw year one.
22:45Now we can really evaluate him. And I think at this point, it's fair to ask whether or not they're going to
22:52get a good read on it after this season because of his circumstances.
22:55I, again, I really, I really do think he made some really good throws.
22:59He had one early first half where he was getting, he was getting his, his bell absolutely wrong by his own goal line.
23:06And he just open hips, open arm, Chris Alave on the outbreaker.
23:09And it's like, all right, that's the thing about Chuck.
23:12People forget like four-star recruiting high, high caliber recruit.
23:14There's some real, real, real throws. He's got arm talent.
23:17He's got toughness. We compared him, I think to Tannehill.
23:20And that's what I was thinking of when he was just getting absolutely decked and getting the ball out.
23:25Yeah, it's just, it's just really rough right now for them.
23:28I hate to sound hopeless for New Orleans. I do think if they can just figure out a way to run the
23:34ball, it really is such a through line right now in the NFL.
23:38There's like five or six offenses around the league where the quarterbacks are like varying levels of playing fine, but the inability
23:44to run the ball is just absolutely killing them.
23:47Including the one that Atlanta played the previous week in Green Bay.
23:50So that's tough. I'm just looking at any other notes I want to mention from this game.
23:55I thought Harold Perkins made some nice plays. For those who weren't familiar, he was like the LSU linebacker who was supposed
24:01to be like this great next great pass rusher.
24:03He was kind of a tweener and his draft stock fell a little bit.
24:07I think he went late in the draft to Atlanta, but I thought he was quite good in this game.
24:13Anything else notable here? Oh, killing more game management.
24:16Kicking the field goal. At the start of the second half.
24:19And then on the next play, having to go for it immediately on fourth and 10.
24:23Yeah. The next drive, bro. What are you doing?
24:26It's always nice when the comeuppance is swift. Happens all the time now, I feel like.
24:30Here's my best stat is over the last two weeks, the Atlanta Falcons lead the league in yards from scrimmage.
24:36Obviously, 918 have been crazy. Bajon and Drake alone have 680 yards from scrimmage.
24:40If they were a team, they would be 17th in the league in total yardage output over the last two weeks.
24:45They'd be right between the Bills and the Chargers.
24:48Just a league average team in and of themselves.
24:51If Atlanta wins the division, Bajon MVP? I'm thinking more as the fancy coach of the year.
24:55I think that's where it'll. That's a good one.
24:58That's a good one. We didn't even. And that wasn't even on our radar when we were talking about coaches of the year.
25:04And that's that's it's it's the it's always the overachievers, right?
25:07It's always the team that had a lot of expectations coming in.
25:11Bijan MVP. Like, I just think with the Falcon season that you're going to get or excuse me, with the with the
25:17Lamar season, you're going to get with the Trevor Lawrence season, you're going to get there's gonna be too many good quarterbacks.
25:23Let's go. But I mean, you know me. I'll do it.
25:26I'll stand in front of whoever you want and claim a running back should be MVP.
25:31I believe I'll believe in that conversation right now.
25:33Also, Michael Pank Jr. Comeback Player of the Year.
25:36If he keeps this up for sure. There's another good one.
25:39All right. A deserving candidate actually injured came back from an injury with the way the award should be.
25:44All right. Let's take a quick break. Come back and talk about our Comeback Player of the Week.
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27:03Winners and whoops. You can go first. Yeah, my winner of the week is the New England Patriots.
27:08What a relief. That win over the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo.
27:11Almost a year since their week five kind of coming out party last year where they beat the Bills in Buffalo as more than a touchdown favorite.
27:18They do it again in this one. 29 to 26.
27:2126. The big point here is that Drake May is spiraling.
27:24Oh my gosh, the Jaguars game was a disaster.
27:27Oh, everything is terrible. You know, the sky is falling down.
27:30And this is the sort of thing where when you have a Josh McDaniels and you have a Mike Brayble and you
27:36have coaches who have been around for a long time and have seen a lot of ups and seen a lot of
27:42downs, you turn to them and you say, OK, you should be able to help us pull out of this spiral more
27:48than like, you know, the younger coaches and the first time head coaches and some of these young cats are getting these jobs.
27:55So this is supposed to be your moment. This is supposed to be the thing that, you know, you're really here good for.
28:01And they made a lot of substantive changes on offense that just made the environment easier such that Drake didn't need to
28:07push as hard and then didn't have as many of his disastrous plays.
28:11Weeks one through three, 13% play action rate. And week four, it's 20%.
28:15Yeah. Weeks one through three, 32% motion at the snap.
28:17And week four, it's 52%. 75% pre-snap motion rate overall.
28:20They went from a very static offense. Yeah, very static offense, like a league average, a little bit above league average in terms of movement at the snap.
28:28The one thing that really stood out to me was how condensed they got formationally.
28:3238% condensed formation per next on stats. The highest of any McDaniels may game over the course of their entire tenure.
28:38They were 23% on the three games previous this season.
28:41What does that all mean? They got to a lot more isolate one bills player, isolate a particular linebacker, get to a
28:47particular coverage check and let's just get some lollipops down the field, right?
28:51A lot of the week one through week three base part of the offense was, oh, well, you know, Drake's a supercomputer.
28:57And we used to do this with Tom Brady where we would just run these basic concepts and it was static.
29:03You just read out and always be correct. And it was just far too agonizing when DeMario Douglas doesn't have the biggest catch radius.
29:09Romeo Dobbs is a bad drop every single week.
29:12There's offensive line issues. Like it was just, it was too, there were too many points of failure.
29:17So all of a sudden now they're walking out and it's no, we're going to give you like, you know, really reduced sets, get Matt Collins blocking.
29:24We're going to run duo. And like, this is going to be more strong for us.
29:29They ran a shovel option on like first and 10, right?
29:32That's like the goal line play. That's like the third and four play.
29:36They were just going to use that as just quick bang out eight yards, right?
29:40There was a lot more ease in the base offense and that you could feel the relief.
29:45You can feel the calmness in May who didn't feel like every single play was one inch from disaster.
29:50And if I'm not perfect here, then we're going to have a pick six.
29:54We're gonna have a fumble, whatever. He still had his, you know, Looney Tunes moments, right?
29:58He still had multiple fumbles in this game. No, there's hands or something.
30:02I know they're small, but like the fumble and then the immediate fumble after it was like, I mean, so yeah, there's
30:08still moments there for May, but it definitely felt, yeah, they got it more calm.
30:12I actually, it kind of reminded me in times of his rookie season a little bit in a good way, right?
30:18Like the willingness to take off and scramble versus man coverage was a big factor in this game.
30:23And I think in the last few weeks, you've seen him a little bit hesitant to do that at times.
30:29But then he just seemed to be like, you talked about the calmness.
30:32Like I was like, Ooh, Drake may just maybe dial dial, you know, just take the layups and let's like not push the ball downfield.
30:39And he actually, I actually felt this game. He actually did the opposite, which is he played even more aggressively and trusted his receivers.
30:46And a big part of the difference in this game, in addition to what you're talking about schematically was that the receivers actually paid it off.
30:53And yeah, like Romeo game, that's, that's a big difference from, I think kind of lost in the Drake may discourse of
31:00the last few weeks is how awful the new England receivers have been.
31:03And in this game, a bunch of them made plays for him.
31:07I mean, you talk about Romeo Dobbs. He had six catches, two or four downs and two were touchdowns.
31:12High efficiency day right there. By the way, Romeo Dobbs outbreakers, a good thing to do in this offense.
31:17Um, Mac Hollins made some difficult plays. Efton Chisholm, you know, the touchdown was incredible, but on the play before that, he
31:23climbs the ladder to go up and get like, they're just throughout the game.
31:27Um, I felt like, okay, the Patriots skill players are actually making plays for me.
31:32Um, and, and when we think about like, I, we talk about sometimes last, last few weeks, like I actually felt like
31:38some of his hesitation was a little bit derived from the past catching group.
31:42Not just like, do I trust what I'm seeing?
31:44Am I going to turn the ball over? But like, ah, if I throw this ball, is this actually, and it felt
31:50like similar to his rookie season or not his rookie season, I mean last season when he just had infinite trust in
31:56Stefan Diggs and booty and company to, you know, reel it in downfield.
32:00It felt like watching this game, he had infinite trust in his receivers.
32:04Yeah. When, yeah, when I, when I say calmness, I definitely don't think of it in terms of like check down orientation.
32:10Right. And like, oh, like, you know, precision and like, you know, dink and dunk.
32:14No, it was how, like on the Romeo Dobbs touchdown, the first one it's, you know, fake the screen to the right side of the formation.
32:21We're gonna have two verticals, fake blockers. These are gonna be the guys who open up the bills cover it wonderfully.
32:27And Drake just takes his head perfectly to the backside.
32:30Here's Romeo Dobbs isolation route. We pulled the safety.
32:33I'm going to whistle this thing. You got to hold your water in a pocket.
32:37That's not going to be a clean pocket. Cause that play design not gonna be clean for 2.75, 2.8 seconds.
32:42That is trust in, in, in the operation trust in, like you said, the offensive line, the wide receivers in a way
32:49that I think would be justified if he didn't have it.
32:52And you've seen him at times not having it over the last few weeks.
32:55And so the calmness, the poise, the willingness to write, still shoot and make big plays.
33:00And, and I think sometimes you see quarterbacks and I'm thinking about Bo Nix right now where Nix will have these games
33:06and these bad stretches where it feels like he doesn't know what he's going to get yelled at for and not yelled at for on the sideline.
33:14He'll walk out and pass on an extremely easy big throw.
33:17And then on the next play, he'll attempt a far more difficult big throw.
33:21And it's like, okay, you don't know which shots you're supposed to be selecting, which ones you're not.
33:26Like you kind of lost the thread. I think it would have been very easy.
33:30Excuse me. I think it would have been very easy for me to lose the thread.
33:34And this game felt very much. So like, boom, we are right back on track.
33:39We trust our process, trust our system. It's a testament to the coaching staff really is.
33:43I thought the Patriots defense also, you know, given that they were down Christian Gonzalez and Christian Barmore in this game, did
33:49a pretty good job of limiting Josh Allen, forcing him to, it almost felt like in high leverage moments, they were dictating
33:55to the bills rather than the reverse of like with whether as regards to their pressures, real or simulated, the coverages they
34:02were playing, um, they were, it always felt like there were three guys to the ball immediately.
34:06And, and they were able to limit yards after the catch because of that.
34:10So I started to be, there are a couple of big plays, but yeah.
34:14Um, yeah, I talked to play very well. Yeah.
34:17Right. The bull rush of Dion Dawkins where that's the Josh Allen, whatever the hell that was.
34:21This is a rookie second round edge rusher out of Illinois who missed a lot of camp with, you know, injury slash contract dispute.
34:28You would assume it would take the guy some, you know, runway to kind of get up to NFL speeds a little
34:34bit behind the eight ball and that they're managing his snaps.
34:37Holy Moses. This son of a gun is a son of a gun.
34:41I, the, the, the physicality is nuts and so needed right now.
34:44Remember no Harold Landry Jones was banged up coming into this game.
34:48They're getting him. And then Elijah ponders the second round off the edge may had a couple of huge plays in this game.
34:54And Milton Williams is really good too. So the whole defensive line, similar to Atlanta, I kind of, you know, had a
35:00lot of questions about this Patriots pass rush. And I still don't know exactly, you know, how high their ceiling is, whether
35:06they have like a true number one, but I think they've proven to be good enough through the first few weeks.
35:12And to do this without Barmore was really impressive.
35:15I also thought Spillane was really good in this game.
35:18They did a great job. We talked about May scrambling.
35:20I thought they'd read a really good job of keeping Alan from escaping and scrambling himself, even though they mostly played zone and, and also limiting Kincaid, right?
35:28Like he was like not a factor at all.
35:31Yeah. I thought, I thought Zach Kerr had Joe Brady in a really bad spot quarter to quarter where just every time
35:37Brady thought he knew what the tone was and then went to shift the Patriots were one step ahead.
35:42Right. I said, okay, you know, we're, we're flustering Josh with a lot of deep zones.
35:47All right. You're going to go to some more of your, you know, under center running game and try to move us off the line.
35:54Here come the run blitzes. Here comes Christian Ellis.
35:56All right. Now you're going to try to get to bigger play action shots.
36:00Cause you know, we're giving you the single high stuff.
36:03Now we're going to do the surprising two high roles.
36:06Right. And we're going to, we're going to get rushes from depth and get to the simulator world.
36:11Kerr man. Kerr is one of those guys who like, he doesn't have the lineage.
36:15I'm not like, you can't go to his, like, you know, Wikipedia page.
36:19Like, Ooh, he pulled this in this guy or whatever.
36:21In terms of down to down stuff that guys are pitching.
36:25That's good. And the start of last season, man, Zach Kerr impresses.
36:28I will say Buffalo probably should have run the ball.
36:31Every, every game they lose. Cause I'm always like, Hey, the pants run defense is not great.
36:35Like you really could. I thought I think stuck with it and controlled the game a bit.
36:40Um, all right. My winner. NFC South Carolina. Oh, pardon me.
36:43Couldn't even get it out without sneezing. Carolina. Bryce young.
36:46Keep pounding. Um, all right. So now we've got four games into the season.
36:50Cause I understand. It's the lions defense is going to make a lot of offenses look better than they are.
36:56Uh, and there, I don't know the way out for them.
36:59Sorry, lions fans. Uh, but it's so funny. I, the, I, the Bryce young, the throw to McMillan under pressure, the toe tapper.
37:05I, I can't remember like everyone else. I was like, Holy crap.
37:08And I was immediately flooded with lions defenses brother.
37:11That was perfect coverage. That's like, that's not, there's no.
37:14Oh, do you be on earth who defends that?
37:16Um, or it was a perfect ball rather. Uh, but I do think, you know, I want to talk about young and
37:22what we've seen from him this season, because you talk about calmness.
37:26I think that's what, or I'd want to start.
37:28Like, cause the lions really own shot is if they can pressure you and the Panthers offensive line has not been great.
37:35And Bryce has been a lender, a lot of pressure in the early part of the season, but boy, man, like watching
37:41him when he's under pressure, there's like zero panic right now.
37:44Like that. I think that's what strikes me. I have a lot of numbers and there's stuff I want to talk about,
37:50but I think that's what strikes me the most.
37:52Ben is the lack of panic under pressure, the willingness and ability to execute the offense, which is also very good.
37:58There's some fun things happening there that I want to talk about.
38:02Uh, and then the touch and the accuracy, particularly over the middle of the field.
38:06And I looked this up afterwards between the numbers, uh, according to true media, Bryce has a 72% precision, precision pass rate.
38:12It's a tongue twister, which is the best in the NFL.
38:15Second is Trevor Lawrence. Who's also, you know, the media middle of the field maven.
38:19And that's what it looks like. Like, it doesn't, it just feel like every ball between the numbers is right on the money.
38:26Just so catchable. Yep. And, and so, yeah, that's where I want to start with him.
38:30It is the, so the, the play under pressure, the, the twitch on Bryce Young is crazy.
38:35Yeah. Right. And, and, and I, I, I try to think of the bad Bryce Young times and what you could see like the forest through the trees.
38:43What was the coaching staff watching, trying to precipitate out.
38:46It was always in the red zone with Bryce where you'd get into these tight areas and there'd be pressure and Bryce would just start just flicking around.
38:53Right. He's like, it is a, it's the, the, the speed, the twitch, the quickness, right.
38:58The stop, start, the herky jerkiness. He can just freeze a defensive end, stop an unblocked linebacker while he's on a scramble drill.
39:04And it just breaks defensive structure. Right. He just pulls too many guys out of too many places by just flitting in and out of spots.
39:12And then he can make these throws disconnected from the ground, hips facing the wrong way, arm angles at different spots.
39:17Cause he's such a Lucy, such a live body.
39:20Now you're seeing that really starting like between the twenties there, you know, in the RPO game, right.
39:25They're running like Mike McDaniel RPO stuff with him and basically saying like, right.
39:29We just think that you can get the ball out of the mesh point and into the throw so fast that we
39:35can take advantage of very small windows. And it's working wonderfully for them.
39:39Then you talk about the middle of the field.
39:41This is the spot where like, I remember watching 23, 24, Bryce, I mean, like, right, this will never work because he
39:47cannot throw to the middle of the field. He's terrified of it.
39:51He's late. He can't see it. He's too small.
39:53Like all the issues, all the issues, all the issues, what they've gotten him to, to figure out, to learn, to improve
39:59upon from a, like drew breeze, find the windows between the off the line perspective is it is one of the bigger
40:06turnarounds of a quarterbacking, you know, talent, right. It's like, it's like, it's like Sam Donald under pressure and seeing ghosts to ripping throws.
40:12Like it's just, it's a complete one. And that, that willingness ability in it, you know, the, you talked about the, the arm talent.
40:19He's so like twitched up, you know, the kind of whips it.
40:22Um, it's so integral for their ability to attack different defenses weaknesses.
40:26And, and that was very apparent in the lions game where it was clear.
40:30They isolated the backup linebacker who got, forgive me.
40:32I forgive his name. Jimmy Rolder. Poor guy. Yeah.
40:35I mean, he was pulled out, you know, uh, and Brad and Zick drew a circle around him and the RPOs were
40:41so me, but like, he got benched after two drives and they were like, all right, we'll do something else.
40:46Well, they were playing a ton of zone, you know, which, cause they can't play man anymore.
40:51And they said, all right, cool. We're going to, you know, go crazy.
40:55Like the number of RPOs. Find the nearest space and turn around.
40:58Right. Right. But you know, I also, I love the way he used Teddero McMillan.
41:02I think I posted about this during the game, but they had him in the slot a ton in this game.
41:08Again, to go back to the middle of the field, McMillan's also a great middle of the field receiver because of his
41:14body, his size, the frame, the way he's able to box out DBs and get leverage on them.
41:20And then he catches everything and he's got decent pull away speed.
41:23He's not a burner, but he's so smooth with the ball in his hands that it's, it's, it should always be an important part of his route tree.
41:31And there's a lot of big bodied receivers who work the middle of the field.
41:35T Higgins, Drake London. What Ted does from a quarterback friendliness perspective, I, the number one takeaway I had watching this lines
41:41game specifically was like Ted is like adjusting his routes relative to coverage, right?
41:45There's the cover zero touchdown. He scores on the slant against the safety where when tech gets into the route, you immediately
41:51realize it's zero because the nickel fires and he gets into his route.
41:55Two steps early. Cause he knows I'm going to be the hot Bryce is going to be looking to me.
42:00I'm doing it right now. That sounds easy. It's not easy.
42:03A lot of guys don't do that. And remember, this is a six foot four guy who's always playing on the outside.
42:10Who's in the slot and needs to be paying attention to if the nickel's firing or not.
42:14He's not, not had to do this as much before he has another one.
42:18He catches a glance routes, another RPO look where the moment he's off the line, Ted realizes he's getting doubled.
42:24He's getting bracket corners underneath on his outside hip safety.
42:27He's waiting for him on his inside hip. And he bends his route back closer to Bryce.
42:31So that way the ball will get to him before the safety does the, the, the, the live through tech and Coker's the exact same way.
42:39They're both so quarterback friendly. They have an idzic was a wide receivers coach before he was off the coordinator.
42:44Idzic knows how to get these receivers to see the whole picture and allows Bryce and that very zippy style to just get the ball to a spot.
42:52And then your big bodied, huge catch radius receivers will make you right at the catch point.
42:57It gels really nicely. I forgot to put up 101 yards on the Falcons, by the way, we talked about the top of the show.
43:04Right? Cause even if you don't do this world where you're like, all right, trying to beat the lions pressure packages, you
43:10can still say tech go 20 yards and then shove a guy.
43:13Right. And he's got that in his back as well.
43:16Um, yeah, to do all that without Coker, uh, and, and that Falcons win does look more impressive now in retrospect, now
43:22that we've got a little bit of more, we'll be talking about the defense.
43:26So, cause Bryce was under a ton of pressure in that game too, if I remember correctly, but yeah.
43:32Bryce is quick pressure. He's the highest of any quarterback in the league right now, which is a little bit conflated.
43:37Cause they run these RPOs and they're welcoming it.
43:40But also when he's, when it's not an RPO, he does have a propensity to hold onto the football a little bit.
43:46Although that was something I did like in the lions game is I thought he was playing a lot faster than he has so far this season.
43:54He wants, he wants to take pockets into pressured space, right?
43:57Like, because it allows him to then go and make throws out of the movement.
44:01Like I said, he's so good at breaking defensive structure when he's on the run.
44:05And so you a little bit worry about a quarterback who wants to pull offense defenses there, but we have to remember
44:11Bryce, like in the past had nothing to hang his hat on and now has something very substantive to hang his hat on.
44:18So it's okay to like kind of chase that a little bit and then continue to build from it there.
44:23I don't think Bryce is in any way, shape or form done figuring out what he can and can't do from the pocket.
44:30There's still like another step here to take as a quarterback.
44:33I think it's cool. I mean, just to take a step back.
44:36I think the week before the NFL season, I talked about Bryce and like what it would take, what he had to
44:42see from him to feel comfortable extending him as, as the Panthers organization.
44:46And, you know, all of his numbers were improving over the course of his NFL career.
44:51Like he has consistently got better, but what we have seen thus far is an exponential level up.
44:56So we'll see. It's only week four. We'll see if that changes, you know, and maybe with some more difficult competition, but
45:02still again, play against pressure notoriously unstable, right? So that's, that's, that's the bear case.
45:06That's the cold water. But he's been really good at a clean pocket too.
45:10So I think, you know, we'll see, but like you've got a couple of, you have some, definitely some harder competition coming in.
45:16They've got the Eagles next after the buy. The Eagles will be coming off the international trip.
45:21That'll be interesting. Are we sure we're talking about stiffer competition?
45:24We're talking about hard teams to beat? Just looking at who their next opponent was.
45:28You have the Vikings and the Seahawks at some point this season too, in terms of defenses.
45:33All right. Wolfs. You can go first. All right.
45:36I'm wolfing the Cincinnati Bengals. We'll lose at home to the Jacksonville Jaguars 22 to 17.
45:40This game could have been way worse than it actually ended up being.
45:44Jaguars have 130 penalty yards in this one. That really gives Cincinnati a lot of extra, extra lives in the cat bowl.
45:50As it were losing. Losing. And first of all, almost all the penalties were correct.
45:54So I don't want to, this is not a rest, but the Jags were just kicking themselves in the nuts over and over in the first.
46:01They should have had so many points in this game.
46:04And yeah, it was insane how many penalties there were.
46:07293 flags were thrown in week four. This is before Monday Night Football had this number.
46:11It's the highest in a week since 2019. Baby, we are.
46:14We're launching them. All right. We're making sure that the game's being played in a very fair manner.
46:20And boy, do I love seeing it. Anyway, the reason the Bengals are my wolf particularly, like losing to the Jaguars.
46:25I think the Jaguars are a top tier AFC team.
46:28You know, there's a Jamar Chase goes down in this game.
46:31There's a lot of stuff that can break this way and that way, whatever.
46:35The Bengals are 80% pass in this game. They're 80% drop back.
46:39They run the football with Chase Brown nine times for 10 yards and Samadja Piran three times for seven yards.
46:44With running backs gave them 12 carries and 17 yards.
46:47Joe gets asked after the game about the balance.
46:49And Joe says, I think we should throw it more.
46:52And he says, I know we're good at it.
46:55It's what I'm good at. Our lines pass protecting great.
46:58You know, it'll figure itself out. So Joseph. No, no.
47:00Okay. We're only four weeks in. They are trying to be more under center this year, right?
47:05They've basically doubled their rate of under center. It ain't working.
47:08They've doubled their rate of under center pass. It's gone from three and a half percent to seven percent.
47:14So they're still among the league's lowest. And right in this game, they have two under center pass and drop backs where they get completions on both.
47:21The third one, they're trying to run leak. And it's a play that like, you know, the Raiders scored on it from
47:27under center play action in this week in the NFL season.
47:30Everybody runs leak. But the Jaguars cover it up.
47:33And Joe tries to get rid of the ball.
47:35He doesn't do it. He gets sacked. They go one more under center play action.
47:40They get a quick pressure off the outside. Joe gets sacked.
47:43And then they never go back to it again.
47:45And so you can feel the storm clouds of abandonment.
47:48You can feel the storm clouds of abandonment. Yes.
47:50Well, OK, so there's a lot to talk about.
47:53I want to start with the run game because last year, the Bengals were like not in a super explosive running team,
47:59but they were a very efficient one. Right. And that's it's kind of in two years now or one and a half years.
48:06They face a ton of light boxes. Last season, they were 10th in success rate, which is your down to down basis with Chase Brown.
48:13This year, they're still facing a lot of light boxes, but they've dropped from about 10th to around 20th in success rate or so.
48:19And it feels like, to your point, that decreased efficiency on fewer reps in just a few games is completely deterring them from it at the moment.
48:27And, you know, I don't I'm not advocating for this team to be bullheaded and run the ball when they're awful at it.
48:33But when you watch, it feels like they're not really giving it a shot to get better.
48:38Yeah, if you thought you were going to get better at it week one to week two and then week two to
48:44week three and then week three to week four, you never played pro football before.
48:48It's not how this works. Development comes in fits and starts.
48:51It is not linear. And so I think in July and August, when the Bengals were running a lot of under center
48:58stuff under, you know, in training camp and it was all getting blown up by the defense, they're like, yeah, we're experimenting.
49:04You know, we're trying things. We don't know if this will be our identity or not.
49:08Already, you could tell they did not want to be full throated in their belief that we need to have this layer to our offense.
49:15You're already planning the escape hatch. You're already looking for the fire escape even before you get to the season.
49:21And then you get a game like this game against the Jaguars.
49:24You play an AFC contender. You're one dimensional offense.
49:27Jamar Chase goes down and you lose. You say, OK, well, you know, this doesn't, you know, Joe's so good.
49:32How long do you, how about that? You know, from Burrow's perspective, it's like, OK, but we suck at it and I'm getting hit.
49:39And like, I know, I know. But, but what if, let me throw this out there.
49:44Like, what if that's just not something like, like, what if he's always going to be a better gun quarterback?
49:49What if it's his style of plays just more conducive to being able to see the entire field?
49:54I'm just throwing this out here because I, at a certain, I know what you're saying.
49:59I understand, like, we're talking about the run game not being good enough.
50:02And we're talking about the fact that they, there's no like diversity in terms of, you know, from formation, whatever.
50:08But there's, you know, there's the desire to be multiple.
50:11And then there's the ability. And sometimes the ability doesn't always follow the desire.
50:15Right. And I think that there are, there's an argument to be said for zagging, right?
50:19The entire league is going more under center, more play action.
50:22So let's zag. Let's be a team that doesn't need to do that to be successful.
50:27And then we won't have to deal with these, you know, under center blitz looks that we were talking about last week.
50:33So I understand the idea of like zagging. Let's have our own identity and be able to, to, to square peg teams.
50:39But there is a difference between this is what we're best at and one dimensionality.
50:43That to me is the big thing is that, you know, Joe saying, all right, we're really great.
50:48Preston is what I'm good at. We should just throw the football more.
50:52If I, if I know what you are doing on 80% of your, they've been this office for five years and it's been a top five office.
50:59I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here because I know what you're saying.
51:03I understand. There's a reason why they tried to do this, but also like this was a top five office.
51:09Offense forever. 54, 54 Joe Burrow dropbacks in this game.
51:12He gets pressure. No, I know, no, no, no.
51:14This game. He gets pressure on 20. The last few years.
51:17Right. But, but to me, like, this is the sort of game that epitomizes why you run into a wall with this.
51:23Because Joe gets hit 20 times in this game because he has to drop back 54 times.
51:28Both of his picks are because of pressure. It's because he feels like he's getting hit.
51:33The pocket's condensing on him. He puts the ball.
51:35But do we think that's more formational related or whatever?
51:38Or do we think it's the fact that they can't run the football?
51:42And I understand these things are links, perhaps. You're talking about the amount of pressure?
51:46Yeah. The amount of times he's having to drop back.
51:49The amount of hits. All of that. If I'm the Jags defensive line coach, I bring everybody to my bench and I
51:55say, listen, this game and this game only. If I catch you shooting up field when you should be run defending, I
52:01will not yell at you in the film on Tuesday.
52:04Go, go, go, go, go. Make Chase Brown beat us.
52:07Which I like Chase Brown as a player. They should.
52:09They. Like, I would. I would be OK with even if they do try to more like a little bit abandon the
52:15under center thing and just reinvigorate the shotgun running.
52:18That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, because last year, this was again, it was an efficient running game.
52:24It was. It was not a bad run game in Cincinnati.
52:27And now I think what you're seeing now is not OK.
52:30Where there's some frustration with the offense, even though technically the offense is not losing these gifts.
52:35It's not because Joe Burrow isn't under center 30 percent of the time or whatever.
52:39It's because they can't fucking run the ball. They used to be able to.
52:43You know, and when like that's why when you're like you're like you say last five years, they've been a top five offense.
52:49And like, I know they haven't been academically, but when I go to list the offenses, I feel fear in the postseason.
52:56I don't want to put them in the top five.
52:58Come on. I know what they are. Jamar Chase and T Higgins when they're healthy.
53:03But they should be better for the talent that they have.
53:06And this is why you get Bengals fans who are frustrated with Zach Taylor.
53:10They should be more explosive. And I understand that like the understanding thing was a way of getting there.
53:15I'm just throwing out the possibility that if it doesn't work, there's a certain point where you have to find other ways to get explosives.
53:22And it's not always just under center. There's just nothing.
53:25And you got to be more balanced running the football.
53:27OK, abandon it in week 10. It's week four.
53:30We just got to October. That's fair. I'm saying that.
53:33I just don't think like under center solves everything.
53:35You know what I mean? Like I think sometimes I don't know.
53:39I think different offenses have different abilities and complexions.
53:41Bengals should be among the lead leaders in shotgun rate without question.
53:44Yeah, yeah. But you're saying you need to be able to like mix it up a little bit.
53:50I think what's most important is they got to get that run.
53:53I think they got to get the run. Efficiency from like 20th back to 20th.
53:57Your overall point about it's less about getting under center.
54:00It's more about getting a better running game is extremely well taken because right.
54:04You're right. It's very easy for us to conflate those two things when they can be distinct.
54:09In the Bengals case, they should be. Also, the problem with the Bengals isn't any of this.
54:13It's that they can't tackle. Well, I mean, like, you know, I've talked enough about the linebackers.
54:18I don't want to get there anymore. It's it's ridiculous.
54:21And the Dexter Lawrence thing, you're the one first one I saw point this out.
54:25But it's really true. We're like teams are going to start going no huddle when Lawrence is off the field because you
54:31can just run it on in the moment. The on off splits are gruesome with Lawrence and all the big explosive runs are when he's off the field.
54:39And once you start noticing, you never stop seeing it.
54:42But yeah, it was like the first two weeks.
54:44We were like, oh, my God, Dexter Lawrence turns out can cover up for linebacker play.
54:49And it's like, oh, actually, that Dexter Lawrence can't play 100 percent of the staff.
54:53Brenton strange. Liam Cohen just took him and said, yeah, I'm going to just kill you.
54:58All right. My wolf. This won't take long because we've talked about them a lot.
55:02The Houston Texans. But I wanted to talk about something different, which is not we're all in agreement.
55:07CJ Stroud has been good this year. CJ Stroud is not the problem.
55:10CJ Stroud has been actually great considering the fact that they can't run the ball for crap.
55:15And he was missing both wide receiver and one and two for several games.
55:19It's time to have a conversation about the Texas defense.
55:22Let's do it. Let's do that quickly here because heading into the season, this was everybody's number one or number two defense.
55:28Maybe there's someone out, some brave soul out there who didn't think so.
55:32Raise your hand if you didn't have them in the top three.
55:35And thus far, it's been pretty ugly. And I want to share a number with you.
55:40And I want to talk about why this happened.
55:42Against the Dallas Cowboys, you know, I always like to look at quick pressure, which is pressure in two and a half seconds or less, right?
55:49Because that's really, they're looking at the, well, there's a lot of things that go into that.
55:54Sometimes, like you said, RPOs can mitigate and things like that.
55:57But it is a pretty good way to see how much the quarterback's being affected.
56:01Because regular pressure rate can be affected. It's more, I think, related to the style of play and things like that.
56:07But the Texans had one quick pressure in this game.
56:10That's a 2% quick pressure rate, which is the lowest they've had in a game since they played Lamar Jackson in 2024.
56:16Yeah. I was about to say, that's a Dak Prescott stat right there.
56:20That's kind of sick. That's very impressive. Yeah, I want to get into that because they got carved up again.
56:25Let's talk about what you saw, why it is, and whether or not there needs to be any changes schematically on that side of the ball.
56:33Because this was pretty ugly. Yeah. So I think that, you know, whenever CeeDee Lamb catches 17 passes, you know that you
56:39were a little bit just outgunned from an X's and O's perspective.
56:42They have no Aziz Alshair in this game. They have no Henry Toto in this game.
56:47And so they end up being with multiple back of linebackers back there.
56:50They're trying to play more dime. And they're trying to insulate those guys by trying to play more too high.
56:56So that way they'll have fitters from depth and safety.
56:59And then you end up with a lot of space in the flat, hitches and outs, right?
57:03I mean, CeeDee ran more routes from the slot in this game than he had in any other game under Brian Schottenheimer, save for one, right?
57:11Schottenheimer was really big on like, we're going to play CeeDee on the outside.
57:15And this game was like, man, I mean, if we can just run Derek Stingley off with George Pickens, then we can
57:21get CeeDee outside and Kamara Lassiter, but also get him inside on Jalen Petrie.
57:25And then the thing that is most confounding to me is just how often the Texans are busting coverages.
57:30I've been like four times in this game, which this is kind of one of those offseason traps that we fall into
57:36where we say, okay, here's this new defensive coordinator with three new pieces and they're playing a rookie at safety.
57:42These guys will blow a lot of coverages. Certainly the Houston Texans.
57:45So, you know, everybody's been there for 10,000 years.
57:48Read blank. It's only the new guy. They won't make any mistakes.
57:51But for whatever, you know, preseason football level of focus, whatever it is.
57:55I mean, for four weeks now, the Texans have been giving up massive, massive completions because they're having trouble communicating in the defensive backfield.
58:01Derek Stingley tried to give away multiple routes in this game.
58:04Nobody's there to take it up. Second and 18, they give up the first down to CeeDee Lamb on second and 18 because they're in a fire zone.
58:12They don't know who's supposed to be where. And so when you have a defense that is this simple in the defensive
58:18backfield, the whole theory is we have really good players and we'll be able to be sound, right?
58:24We'll know our assignments. The moment you have two or three players where a guy doesn't know his assignment, disaster, right?
58:29It's absolute fall apart. And so it's been very disappointing from an execution perspective that D'Amico Rines and a Matt Burke coach
58:36to defense is making this many errors over the course of September.
58:39The fact that the four-man rush just hasn't been able to take over games has left them so exposed.
58:44And the way that offenses have prevented the form, it's interesting because it's been a little bit different in every game.
58:50Like, they're just, we're so used to watching this Texans four-man rush just like nuke offenses.
58:55And that's just not been the case. And week one, you had Josh Allen.
58:58They did some of what Dallas did in terms of like getting big bodies into chip.
59:03But like you had Josh Allen moving. Week two, you had Joe Burrow extending.
59:07And in this one, it wasn't Dak extending. It was simply Dak stepping up in the pocket over and over.
59:12And just they would give the tackles help, you know, against those edge rushers.
59:16But, you know, Dak Prescott, I think one of his greatest strengths as a quarterback is his pocket management and his ability
59:23to step up and keep his eyes downfield. And time and time again, you would see the edges just get past him.
59:29And like you said, then on the back end, they were undressed.
59:32And some of that had to do, I thought the Brian Schottenheimer had a really good game plan in terms of like
59:38the way he was, you talked about him moving CD, the way he was able to get him free releases, the way
59:44he was able to take advantage of their zones.
59:47And it's Dak Prescott. Like if you play a lot of zone, you're just going to pick it apart if he has time.
59:53Dak was just never wrong in this game. It was crazy how often Dak pre-snap is fighting exactly where the ball needs to go.
60:00And then he gets there on time enough such that they can break tackles.
60:04Because the other thing is there's a lot of space in the secondary to run after the catch because they're trying to
60:10play really tight to routes down the field, which I don't know.
60:13Like my head tells me Texans should play more aggressive.
60:16I was just about to ask you. Do you think because in this game, I thought absolutely.
60:21They're about, you know, average and man coverage rate.
60:24Generally, it's like man, a lot of quarters. But in this game, I was like, bro, you got to disrupt CD lamb at the last year.
60:31Like I understand like they were shot numbers. He was using, you know, motion and bunches and things like that to get him those releases.
60:38But like this is not working for you, especially with this quarterback.
60:41Right. Yes. And they get the Titans next week.
60:44And so it might just be like a mouthwash game.
60:47And like we don't even need to really evolve too much.
60:50But like if you if they'd walk down the second half and they've been all right, we're going to play a lot tighter to routes.
60:57No more free access underneath. We're going to, you know, play man coverage.
61:00Kenneth Murray would have seen 94 targets. The Cowboys know who Kenneth Murray is.
61:04He was in the building two years ago. Right.
61:07And that's the they very much were calling a defense that was meant to say, OK, we really don't trust our linebackers.
61:13We're going to, you know, ask our corners and our safeties and our nickel to do more than they should be asked to do.
61:20But it's because we just really can't trust these linebackers and coverage and they never got away from it.
61:25And they were, you know, leading their late. Right.
61:27Like they were close. And so they had that they had they only start to linebackers both right with injury.
61:33There wasn't a big limitation on this defense from an Achilles heel perspective.
61:37But yeah, like I remember when Will Anderson got the sack fumble on Daniel Jones in week three and I was like there it finally is.
61:44The Texans pass rush defensive play that typifies how they finish these games.
61:48Right. That one last moment in clear past situation.
61:50And then they gave up the very next drive and they give the field goal, whatever.
61:55And so, right, it's the those one last moment PBUs pressures strip sacks.
61:58Those haven't shown up for them in these three out of four games now they've lost in the last two minutes.
62:04We'll say. A little bit of context, right? Buffalo.
62:07Cincinnati, even though you've buried them, I still think they're.
62:09Oh, my gosh. And then the Dallas Cowboys, who are probably a top three passing attack.
62:14It's been a quite a slight for this defense.
62:16So I think the reality is probably somewhere in the middle where they're not the world beaters that everybody thought they were
62:23going into the season, but they're not as bad as they've looked.
62:26They probably face the hardest. I just saw DVOA went up.
62:29It's going to take a second probably before I start really, you know, like leaning on that.
62:34But I have to think that DVOA will be kind to them after these first few games.
62:38They've got I saw from the Twitter account. That's the 49ers analytics account camera what it is.
62:43But anyway, he does expected wins and the Texans have like 2.5 expected wins on the season, right?
62:48They've been tight in all these games. They've had great advanced numbers.
62:52They've had short yardage failures. They've had fourth down execution failures.
62:55They've had fourth quarter execution failures. This is still a pretty good team.
62:58Oh, and four is about as big of a hole as anybody's dug their way out of right now.
63:04Healthy Nico CJ keeps playing this way. Defense tightens up a lot of easy mistakes.
63:08I could see it, but I'm not going to set my watch to it, right?
63:12I'm not going to put a lot of faith.
63:15Let me pull up the schedule really quickly. And then they have the Jags in week six, and that's the one where if you drop it, it's over.
63:22It's over. But if you win it, you can kind of.
63:25You win. You can start rallying. Yeah, you got tightens, Jags.
63:29Then you got the Giants, the Chargers, the Browns, the Colts.
63:32So yeah, if you. OK, so let's see you drop to one in five.
63:36Two, five, three, five, four, five, five. You get to five and five if you rip off of even with the Jags
63:42loss, if you rip off a bunch of wins.
63:44But that's a lot to ask. So that's brutal.
63:47Dicey. Dicey. CJ Stroud, 19, 20 plus yard completion.
63:49It's the NFL right now. You know who's really good is CJ Stroud.
63:53I don't know. There was a moment there where we were all like, what if he's not?
63:58Turns out he is. You know who else is really good?
64:01Nico Collins. Nico Collins for MVP. I will do that, dude.
64:04I'll do that in a heartbeat. I think Nico Collins is the most valuable player in football.
64:09Crazy how much better the offense looks with him.
64:11Hmm. Having your number one wide receiver makes a big difference.
64:14All right. That's it for now. Reminder to folks.
64:17League Wide is the name of Ben's daily podcast.
64:19Who are you on with today? It's every day.
64:22Usually Wednesdays are an ESPN friend who is off this week.
64:25So I have Derek Klassen coming on this week.
64:27We had Steve Weish on Tuesday to recap Monday Night Football and some of the late afternoon games.
64:32A lot of fun. Steve's a big Falcons guy.
64:35So I'm sure that's a good listen. He's the best.
64:38I saw him in New Orleans always looking so dapper.
64:40Yeah. All right. So check that out. We'll be back on Thursday with Dominique to preview this weekend's late Seahawks Niners.
64:46Oh, coming down. And also, if you watch the show Lanterns, my recap with David Dennis Jr.
64:51of the finale. I got like four texts of like, hey, you looked great in the Lanterns finale.
64:56Was there a small white man? I think it's the this isn't a spoiler.
65:00The quarterback, the high school quarterback looks a lot like you.
65:03I actually thought that when he first appeared on camera.
65:06Noah Macon. That's the name of the quarterback. He does look like you.
65:10But you're like a universal donor for. I was about to say.
65:13The problem is, oh, okay. This is. He's probably like.
65:16This man has nice hair. I mean, he's not a man.
65:19He's a boy. But yeah. Well, okay. But I'm a man.
65:22And so I'd like that to be in the record, please.
65:25A father of two. All right. Thank you so much, Ben.
65:28Go check out his podcast. Everybody. My friend has a podcast and you better check it out.
65:33It's so good. James, subscribe. And I'll be back later this week.
65:36Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

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