0:00Y'all know I have a Jeff Janis signed rookie card, one of my prized possessions, and this year I'm taking card collecting
0:08more seriously and that means targeting Parker Washington rookie cards.
0:12That's right, a former undrafted rookie. He's about to break out and most people never saw it coming.
0:19And I've been inspired by a new app called WhatNot.
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0:45You're not scrolling alone. You're in a live chat with other collectors, people who want to talk about the same rookies you want to talk about.
0:54WhatNot is why I'm much more into card collecting now than I was before.
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1:47Nothing hits quite like the start of an NFL season.
1:51Before it begins, we know almost everything there is to know about how the season's going to play out.
1:58We know all the surprise players, all the disappointments, which NFL teams will be good.
2:04We know the league-winning players, and like clockwork every year, the NFL hits our assumptions and presumptions like a blitzing linebacker.
2:11Jackson Dart is hurt already? Colston Loveland has fewer points than who?
2:16Sam Rausch? What is this madness? And what happened to the season we thought we all knew so well?
2:23Today, we're diving into all of it, and joining me is a man who needs no introduction, Matt Kelly, the Podfather.
2:31So let's get to it. It's time to dominate.
2:34Hey, welcome to the Dominator, Matt. Hey, this is great, man.
2:38This is the new show. Happy to be on.
2:42And you got me at a good time, man.
2:45I've been totally immersed in NFL player news. I've been working on the seasonal projections, weekly projections, Dynasty.
2:52And so I pretty much have takes on every single player.
2:56Just hit me, baby. Hit me, Dan. Yeah, that's what we're here for.
3:01We're here to hit you. I mean, you know, I know the past couple years you've been busy with other projects and everything.
3:10But yeah, this year you can definitely sense that, you know, Matt's got his head back in the game.
3:17He's got the takes ready to go and, you know, firing off.
3:21So, you know, and to my point in the intro, I mean, it seems like every year we say, this is the weirdest fantasy season ever.
3:31You know, it's like everywhere I go, everybody I talk to, this season is so weird.
3:37This is the weirdest one ever. You think that's true this year?
3:42Not at all. I think this is a pretty normal season.
3:46This is what we've expected. This is what it usually is.
3:50You have a bunch of running back injuries. You have a bunch of wide receiver injuries.
3:56There's players that we thought would exceed expectations for reasons like they went to a small school.
4:02They were undrafted. They're in great offenses. You know, guys like Jalen Coker, undrafted from Holy Cross, didn't get the respect.
4:10Now he's basically on par with Tett McMillan, a top 10 pick.
4:15Then you have Devon Vele, who was operating in an offense everyone wanted exposure to because this guy was an old breakout.
4:23You know, I'm not so sure. He's in best ball.
4:27He was going outside pick 150, which is just absurd.
4:30So a lot of things are kind of playing out as I expected.
4:35Some things are playing out beyond my wildest imagination.
4:39In fact, some players are so bad that in my imagination, I couldn't even imagine how bad they would be.
4:46I couldn't even get my head around how bad Marvin Harrison Jr.
4:51could potentially be no matter what. Even you talk to R.C.
4:55Fisher, the original Marv Fader, there's just no way he would have said, oh, one catch in two games and he's healthy.
5:03So, yeah, a lot of these things I think are actually playing out as we thought.
5:09A lot of these, the players that are flaming out were highly speculative.
5:14They did not have big samples to fall back on.
5:18There was athleticism. There were scouting reports that we were bullish on, but not necessarily like actual NFL production.
5:25And then they're face planting. So in many ways, this is as we thought it would happen.
5:31The one interesting thing this year, which has really thrown me, is the overreaction of NFL players themselves to injuries.
5:39And it's not just Caleb Williams, right? Caleb Williams is the big meme right now.
5:44And I get it. I myself, I, I, and I never do this.
5:49I posted a thoughts and prayers tweet about Caleb Williams.
5:53And then I felt like a fool. But I also was very cautious about this Jeremiah Love.
5:59And sure enough, now I'm reading all this. Well, this was as expected.
6:04He's still dealing with a high ankle sprain. And we're like, yeah, that's why we weren't drafting him, among a bunch of other reasons.
6:13But then you have Ashton Gentry. Remember the prayer circle for Ashton Gentry?
6:18So the one aspect of this season, which I think is unique, is the players themselves overreacting to injuries, which then reverberates back on fantasy gamers.
6:28So my big lesson learned from this season that I'm going to apply to the rest of the season and future seasons
6:36is to let the injuries play out and not go into complete panic mode.
6:41Even when a guy is helicoptered out of the stadium, I'm going to be like, I'm going to wait.
6:49I'm going to wait. He's stretchered off in a helicopter.
6:52And I'm going to wait because you never know.
6:56He could be questionable for the next week. Yeah, 100%.
7:00I mean, you know, you look at, you know, the mechanism of Jackson Dart's injury and you go, it doesn't look too bad.
7:08He might make it back in a couple weeks.
7:12And then you looked at Caleb Williams going down like he was shot by a sniper or something.
7:18And it's like, oh, man. You know, when I first saw Caleb Williams, I was like, oh, that's got to be an Achilles.
7:27And then, you know, you look at it closer and you're like, nope, that was a hamstring.
7:33But you're like, that could be one of those really bad hamstring strains, you know, like Dak had a couple years ago.
7:42Or, you know, he misses like eight, nine games, something like that.
7:46You know, and then, yeah, he's driving off on the cart, fist pumping and everything else.
7:52It's like, come on, man. And, you know, I don't know.
7:56Maybe he was just frustrated when he was on the turf because he was so close to scoring.
8:03But, you know, Matt, why couldn't he just throw it to Colston Loveland, who was right out in front of him with nobody there?
8:12But, no, he's got to play hero ball. And, oh, he's going to get the touchdown here.
8:18You know, he's going to be the hero that saves Chicago.
8:23And instead of taking that easy flip, nope, he tries to turn the corner on a wet field, pops that hammy, and boom, there we go.
8:32We'll see what happens with Colston Loveland. I'm very interested to see what happens with Colston Loveland.
8:39I talked to Dan Fornick about Colston Loveland, who's an offensive line guru.
8:44And he was just talking about how Colston Loveland's never going to leave the field.
8:49He's such a great blocker. Pretty much the best all-around tight end talent, two-way tight end talent, goal line.
8:56Every situation is going to be out there. And then, sure enough, Colston Loveland's out there on every snap, running every route.
9:05He's just not getting targeted. This could just be new quarterback comes in, and suddenly Colston Loveland, the problem has been solved by Case Keenum or Tyson Badgent.
9:15We'll see what happens. I still believe in the talent.
9:19This is not a Marvin Harrison situation. These are very different players.
9:23These are incredibly different situations, especially because the tight end position is very volatile.
9:29It's very easy to go back to almost any tight end's game log and find a couple, one or two target games
9:37on there, just because they just happen to find themselves matched up with certain linebackers in certain situations where they have to
9:45be blocking more than they would, or the game plan didn't dictate the targets go their way.
9:52With the alpha-wide receiver, there's less excuse. There's much more cause for concern.
9:56And then you see the clips come out and the tape come in of Marvin Harrison Jr.
10:03and you're just kind of out there going through the motions, and you're like, okay, this guy's droppable.
10:10This guy's a sell-low in Dynasty. Get what you can get.
10:14But I'm frustrated because I knew I could have gotten, say, Jalen Coker straight up.
10:19I could have just done, you know, but I kept trying to go for a 20-27 first because I had this one.
10:28And I'm glad I did it. I'm glad I did it, man.
10:32I'm glad I didn't because I took over 20 orphans in 20 days.
10:37It was a project I did this offseason or stunt, as some might say.
10:42And I think I probably in those rosters had a couple Harrisons and got rid of a few, but ended up with one left.
10:51And I kept trying to get full value for him, and I couldn't.
10:56And I've been sitting on this asset just watching it leak value, and he's dropping so far so fast that you can't keep up.
11:05There's no way with a guy like that you can ever try to get full value.
11:11You have to just take what you can get.
11:15If I had just taken a 20-27 second when it was available to me, if I had just taken a Coker Plus
11:23or something like that, even a Parker Washington Plus, oh my God, imagine.
11:28Imagine. So I should have done that. I didn't.
11:31And now that's the lesson learned. But I still do have some successful Marv trades from this summer that I can fall
11:39back on to ease my ego a little bit with that.
11:43But if you were drafting him, if you were drafting him this year ahead of proven players that we know what they're
11:52going to do instead of this speculative guy. So think about the speculative assets.
11:57Certainly, Colson Loveland. I think that in conversations I've had with some people, there were instances where he went ahead of Trey McBride.
12:06We talk about Jonathan Brooks now hitting IR. This is another one where, hey, we're just going to go to the college
12:14profile, forget that he barely has any touches in the NFL, and we're just going to project him.
12:21So the highly speculative projection-based players are the ones that have face-planted the hardest this year.
12:27And we, all of us, again, including me, I have some Jonathan Brooks.
12:32I'm sure you have some players that you were excited about the upside, and in hindsight you're like, oof.
12:39We're all in it together, man. Yeah, 100%. And the thing is, we've seen highly drafted wide receivers face-planted before.
12:46Laquan Treadwell, Nikhil Harry, both face-planted, but they weren't Marvin Harrison Jr.
12:51They didn't have that pedigree. They didn't go to Ohio State.
12:55You know, this was, you know, it's like imagining the type of fall that Harrison had is just, it boggles the mind.
13:03I mean, you know, you can't conceive of it before the season.
13:08You're like, well, you know, he's going to be the, you know, he could be the third option maybe.
13:15You know, maybe Michael Wilson passes him. And, you know, there were stories you could tell yourself that, you know, Michael Wilson is not going to pass him.
13:25You could say, you know, well, last year the only times Michael Wilson really did well was when Marvin Harrison Jr.
13:33was hurt and out of the picture. You know, so why would we expect anything different?
13:39Well, I think the, you know, the Cardinals were telling us with that Wilson contract that they were not believers in Harrison Jr.
13:48anymore. So, you know, we learned things like that.
13:51And, you know, we just got to pick up the pieces and move on the best we can.
13:58I mean, you know, another interesting thing. You were talking about all these dynasty orphans you were picking up, Matt.
14:05When I was looking at orphans this spring, Marvin Harrison Jr.
14:10was a common thread throughout many of them, right?
14:13Yeah, I mean, if I had, let's say I had three or four Harrison out of 20 teams, that's a relatively high
14:21percentage for any given player on your team. So, yeah, I ended up finding myself with a bunch.
14:28Most leagues he was easy to move. One league he wasn't.
14:32And I'm stuck with him. And now I'm going to see what I can get.
14:38I'm actually, I did the thing on Sleeper where I took him off the block and I put him right on the block.
14:46And then everyone in the chat was LOLing. And that's the thing.
14:51I probably in that league took him off and put him back on the block instantly about three or four times just hoping and praying.
15:00But I just happen to be, sometimes you're in with 11 other guys and 11 other guys either subscribe to player profiler
15:09or they just happen to have a similar mindset to you.
15:13And they're just not going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe on that.
15:18My best comp for him. And again, this is why I have not said, you haven't heard me say this.
15:26You can't find a clip of this. Me saying this is the strangest season or this is such a weird season because
15:34he reminds me of Mike Williams from USC. If you remember USC, Mike Williams, same draft capital, high pedigree guy.
15:42He was at USC when they were at the height of their power.
15:46And he came to the league and he just couldn't separate, couldn't do anything.
15:52And you're like, did he even play? How did this happen?
15:56And they're like, well, no, he's big and lanky and he can win contested balls against college corners.
16:03And he comes to the league and some guys, I could put myself in their shoes.
16:09You drop millions of dollars in my bank account.
16:12I'm not going to be as motivated as Parker Washington is to show up to facility at 5 a.m.
16:19That's why it was so encouraging to see Caleb Williams doing that.
16:24And I have to say, I am still bullish on Caleb Williams.
16:28I know that he is an unconventional player, but what he did in week one, you can't take away.
16:35That was a glimpse in his upside. He's very young.
16:39We have him higher in Dynasty on Player Profiler than, say, Jaden Daniels.
16:44I still want him very much. I think he is a buy low.
16:49Even if he has these histrionics on the sideline, that doesn't mean when he's on the field, he's not a great player.
16:57And you're right. In that game, there were terrible weather conditions.
17:01Things just worked against them. Every quarterback, including Tom Brady, has had dud weeks.
17:06So for me, I'm seeing him as a buy low, whereas a guy like a Marvin Harrison, he's got a pedigree, but he's a sell low.
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18:01So let's go start building super teams. Y'all know I have a Jeff Janis signed rookie card, one of my prized possessions.
18:09And this year, I'm taking card collecting more seriously.
18:12And that means targeting Parker Washington rookie cards. That's right.
18:16A former undrafted rookie. He's about to break out, and most people never saw it coming.
18:22And I've been inspired by a new app called Whatnot.
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18:47You're not scrolling alone. You're in a live chat with other collectors, people who want to talk about the same rookies you want to talk about.
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19:49That right there is a feature I use all the time, the Dynasty Deluxe.
19:54I mean, that trade finder, being able to say win now or rebuild or whatever, it's a fantastic deal.
20:01Nobody's getting anything like it. It is the year of the backup quarterback.
20:06So Kyle McCardell. Remember Keenan McCardell? Remember him? Oh, yeah.
20:10That was fun. Jimmy Smith. Still a good wide receiver coach, too.
20:15That's right. That's right. Yeah. He says this is the year of the backup quarterback.
20:20We had the big game from Drew Locke. Drew Locke can push the ball down the field, and he has Jackson Smith and Jigba.
20:29So absolutely, he was a nice little start in Superflex last week, where I did start him in a couple Superflex leagues,
20:38and I forgot to start him in one league, where I had locked in accidentally a player on Thursday night football in the Superflex spot.
20:47And so I talked about that on the Top Ten Takeaway show on Monday.
20:52You know, we're all guilty of this. We're all guilty for holding the bag on Marvin Harrison.
20:59We're all guilty for forgetting to swap out a guy on Thursday night football.
21:04It all happens to all of us. Don't worry about that.
21:08Jameis Winston. Jameis Winston is interesting. Jameis Winston, if you have Malik neighbors, thank God for Jameis Winston.
21:15If it were another team and you had Malik neighbors, this would be catastrophic.
21:20But fortunately, just like, we have Jameis, and I think Jameis with a full week to prepare, we're going to see a
21:28better Jameis than we saw last week. So I'm excited for Jameis.
21:33I think he's a buy in Superflex. I put a big bid in on him if possible.
21:39If you need quarterback help, he's, I think, a great option.
21:43This particular week, though, Case Keenum. But even if it's Tyson Badgen, I'd prefer Badgen.
21:49I'm hoping for Badgen. We're hoping for good news about Badgen's concussion.
21:53I don't know when he was concussed. So that was a surprise when we heard about the concussion protocol.
22:01But if Badgen plays, I'm absolutely streaming him. I think he'll get Loveland involved, as we talked about.
22:07He's also a sneaky Konami QB. He's just an all-around great athlete.
22:12And he's a great story, man. I love great stories.
22:16I love Parker Washington's story. I love his story.
22:19Rashad White, I loved his story when he came to the league, living out of his car from junior college, trying to make it.
22:28I love it. These are some of my favorite stories.
22:32So Badgen at a small school like Shepard, and then he only got the invite to the senior bowl, only got noticed
22:40because he was at the senior bowl. The only reason he got the invite to the senior bowl is because there was a guy that was injured.
22:50And then they called him, and he flew down to Mobile for two days of practice just because he wanted to be in the league.
22:59He was doing everything he could. He got the phone call, got on the plane, and then boom, finds himself one of the NFL's best offenses.
23:09Now he has an opportunity, hopefully, hopefully. It's crazy coincidence.
23:13He was at the same senior bowl as Roshon Johnson.
23:17And if you remember, Roshon Johnson has had these opportunities where players were injured ahead of him in the depth chart.
23:25So Swift goes down, and then you find out, oh, Roshon was actually in the concussion protocol.
23:31And he missed the game. And then I don't even remember the running back that they ended up going to that week.
23:39But it could have been. We could be viewing Roshon Johnson very differently had he just not had that concussion the week
23:48before he would have been the starting guy. And now all of a sudden, guy who flashed at the exact same senior
23:56bowl is on the exact same team. And he has his opportunity.
24:00And he's in the concussion protocol. Yeah. And you kind of wonder if Bajan wouldn't make the passing game just more on schedule than what Caleb does.
24:10Because I think Bajan is going to listen to the coaching staff a little bit more.
24:16Caleb just goes out there. And I mean, I'll give him all the credit in the world.
24:23Guy looks like Neo from The Matrix. Every time there's pass rushers coming at him.
24:28Because he's bending every which way. I mean, guys are coming at him.
24:33They've got him dead to rights. And somehow he manages to slide underneath it or take this huge weird step and somehow sling himself out of it.
24:44It's just very frustrating for a Vikings fan to watch him.
24:48But on the other hand, that kind of teaches him that, OK, I can do this anytime I want.
24:55I can run anytime I want. And when he does all that stuff, now the play is completely broken down.
25:02And whoever was supposed to be the first read, that's out the window.
25:07It's just, you know, it's whatever at this point if he doesn't actually run.
25:12Find Sam Rausch. Find Kalish Raymond. Right, right, exactly.
25:16I mean, you know, and that seems to be the ones who are getting open for him.
25:22So let's move into the Chargers offense. Matt, what do you think is wrong with it?
25:28And can it be fixed? Oh, man. I had to go back and I was like, why do we have him projected
25:36so well and so valuable for Dynasty? And I was like, oh, that's right.
25:42Because he put up like 23 fantasy points a game when he was 23 years old.
25:48Right, and he can run. He can do it all.
25:51He has like the biggest arm in the league.
25:55He's super accurate. It's like you built the perfect quarterback in the lab.
26:00That's what he is. And so to see this happening, this short-circuiting, it just reminds me again, like what we always talk
26:08about, that coach first analysis is the worst. It is the absolute worst.
26:13It's like when I read an article and when they start to talk about a player, if the first few sentences are dedicated to the coach, just close.
26:23Just the close button. Don't read anymore. Right, don't read anymore.
26:28Because these coaches, they can certainly help get them into better plays.
26:32They could optimize around the edges. But it's the players.
26:36Right? You have these coaches that coach great players and they get all these awards and then they go to a different
26:44team and they're coaching bad players and they're out of the league and they're a punchline and they're on TV talking about
26:52the games because they're no longer coaching. It happens time and time and time again.
26:58You can come from the best coaching tree. You can be young.
27:02You can have cool sunglasses. And you... Nothing. Right?
27:06Right? Actually, you go back. Wait. The Dolphins actually ran a slow offense.
27:11Hmm. Okay. I wonder what that's about. Maybe it's because Mike McDaniels not a super information processing genius.
27:17Maybe he's a little bit fraudulent. We're going to find out this year.
27:22Right? That's what I was thinking. I was like, man, I don't know what Mike McDaniels we're sure as hell going to
27:31find out this year because if he screws this up with that offensive line, oh boy.
27:37I have a theory about the Chargers. Now, when we talk about...
27:41Have you heard of the Ewing theory? No. Okay.
27:45The Ewing theory was invented by... I think popularized at least by Bill Simmons.
27:50That... And you mentioned this with Badgin. And that's the first thing I thought about.
27:55And then I immediately thought about the situation with the Chargers as well.
28:00That the Knicks would go on runs when Ewing was out.
28:04Right? Ewing would go out. He'd be out for a couple games.
28:09And then all these players in the Knicks would step up and have 30-point games.
28:15And John Starks would be amazing. And they'd win.
28:18And you'd be like, oh my God, they're better without Ewing.
28:22Right? They're better without Ewing. Because having Ewing there, it's a crutch for the offense.
28:28It slows the game down. It's just like what you're saying.
28:32It takes the team out of schedule. They have to go into the post and then back out and then back into the post and then back out.
28:42And the fluidity of the offense gets dragged down by this star player.
28:47And then you have to ask the question, does the star player actually making this offense better or worse?
28:54I think Caleb Williams makes the Bears better. Though I will say, whoever gets badging one day in free agency is going to be very happy.
29:04He's going to be a playoff quarterback at some point with a different team.
29:09I'm just curious to see who that is, what team that...
29:14I think he's a better player than say Mack Jones or one of these other backup quarterbacks that we know is destined to get another job sometime, somewhere.
29:24With the Chargers, whoever was crafting the roster in the offseason was building backwards.
29:29They were basically backward looking. What's been working in the last couple years around the NFL, oh, everyone's going 12 personnel.
29:37Oh, everyone wants two-way tight ends. They want to have an embarrassment of riches at the tight end position.
29:44Well, we want to do that too. That's what we're going to do.
29:49And then instead of taking a step back and saying, well, what kind of offense should we run?
29:56And whenever you have to ask that... You always ask that question, right?
30:01What's our best offensive configuration? What's the best way to deploy our players to get the most out of them?
30:08And the best offensive coordinators is they look at three players.
30:13They look at the right and left tackles and they look at the quarterback.
30:18It's like a little triangle. If we're going back to basketball, it's like a little triangle.
30:24Okay? Who do you got at the tackle positions?
30:27And then who's your... These are the most expensive positions, right?
30:31They command the most money. So that necessarily means that's the most in-demand position in the league for a reason.
30:39The tackles and the quarterback. Okay? What do you got?
30:43Well, okay. When healthy, we get the best tackles in the league and we got a quarterback that was built in a lab.
30:51So in that scenario, what you actually don't need is a bunch of 12 personnel.
30:5712 personnel is great to hide bad tackle play.
31:0012 personnel is a way to give your quarterback that extra half second by chipping with multiple tight ends and then getting them out in the flat.
31:10If you want to run a lateral offense, a lateral-based offense, the Eagles are great at a lateral-based offense.
31:17Why? And this is, again, Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts were at the same Senior Bowl.
31:23The two Senior Bowls I've been to, 2020 and 2023.
31:27One, Bageant was the best quarterback there and he showed up late.
31:32Okay? In 2020, it was Hurts, it was love, it was Herbert, it was amazing.
31:37It was an amazing, it was incredible. It was Michael Pittman, it was a list, it was an incredible year.
31:45It was just an incredible year. So, even when you're watching that offense, Jordan Love could push the ball when the ball
31:53comes out of Jordan Love's hand and you're like, oh my God, this guy's different.
31:59This ball just has this power, this initial power for the first, say, 10 yards of flight where you can, almost like
32:07someone who's a long driver when you go golfing with someone and the ball just leaves the tee differently.
32:14You saw that with Jordan Love. That was true back then.
32:18Then, Justin Herbert, and you're like, oh, well, this is another level.
32:23This is like love plus. This is just our observations at the Senior Bowl, right?
32:28And so, you have that, the last thing that you would want, but then you see Jalen Hurts.
32:35And Jalen Hurts was struggling in all these 1v1 drills, anything where it was point and shoot target throws, Hurts was the worst.
32:44He was worse than guys that weren't getting drafted.
32:47He couldn't do it. Just like at the Pro Bowl, Lamar Jackson couldn't do it.
32:53That's not what they do. They're good on the run.
32:57They're good at evading pressure. They're good at when things are breaking down, they can make things happen.
33:03Those offenses are best run laterally where you have a lot of guys crossing, a lot of guys getting open late in the progression.
33:12Okay? That's perfect for 12 personnel. So, if you wanted to do 12 personnel 100% of the time with Jalen Hurts, I guarantee that would be just fine.
33:23Okay? Justin Herbert's the exact opposite player. You don't need that at all.
33:28You're best vertical. Right? When you see them drafting a Brendan Thompson, like, that's perfect.
33:33You want field stretchers and then guys underneath. That's 11 personnel.
33:38That's perfect for 11 personnel. You post up Lad McConkie in the slot.
33:42You don't keep taking Lad McConkie off the field.
33:46So, they created a system where Lad McConkie comes off the field all the time.
33:51They're one of their best receivers. It didn't make any sense.
33:56So, whoever was signing Njoku and dumping all this money on Kohler had no idea how to build an NFL offense.
34:03I don't know how to blame Harbaugh. I don't know who the hell to blame for that.
34:10But someone needs to be held accountable. That was the core problem.
34:14When you saw them go after Kohler and Njoku, I was very confused by that.
34:20I think we all were because we also saw a Rondé-Gadson breakout.
34:25Just from a fantasy perspective, those of us that have Gadsden and Dynasty or had been drafting Gadsden in early best ball
34:33leagues were like, what are they doing? This doesn't make any sense.
34:37But guess what? Sometimes fantasy gamers know more than NFL people because that was true.
34:43That was true. So, they've been building an offense for Jalen Hurts instead of building an offense for Justin Herbert.
34:50And now, because of injury, they may actually luck into a better offensive set, a better set of plays to work from
34:59now that they don't have the 12 personnel as an option, as a card in the deck.
35:05Now they can actually just go, all right, well, I guess we've got to go to 11 personnel pretty much exclusively and we're like, thank you!
35:15So, that is the case for Herbert and this offense.
35:19That is the case not just for, of course, Arande Gadsden is like the checkers move, right?
35:25That's the 1 plus 1 equals 2. No shit you want Arande Gadsden.
35:30Okay, congrats. But, and we certainly, you know, patreon.com slash podfather, I certainly put Arande Gadsden way up in the suggested fab
35:38bidding and that's not even tight end premium. I mean, my God.
35:43I mean, if somehow he got dropped in tight end premium, he didn't, but if he did, oh my God.
35:50He didn't. He didn't, but if he did, oh my God.
35:54So now, a guy like Trey Harris becomes very interesting because Trey Harris is a simply better football player than Quinton Johnston.
36:03If I'm starting a football team, I'm pretty sure you would think this too.
36:08Most people that know Trey Harris would, this is a guy you want on your football team, right?
36:15Just like Jalen Coker is a guy you want on your football team, okay?
36:20Trey Harris, the guy you want on your football team.
36:24So now to have that guy playing more snaps, running more routes, but also more featured routes, that is actual, and what
36:32are you doing, 53-yard catch last week? Yeah. That is the type of thing that is going to actually propel Herbert.
36:40So instead of him looking laterally, he can now look first to a deep shot, right?
36:46So that's, that, the Justin Herbert offense is best when his first read is a deep shot, and then he, his progression
36:54goes from deep to shallow instead of scanning across the field.
36:58That's not, that's what they've been asking him to do, and he's clearly doesn't, he's not good at it.
37:05Now they might actually, this is going to help everybody.
37:09This is going to be the tide that lifts all boats, and I'm sorry about Kohler, if you're, if you're related to
37:17Charlie Kohler, if you're friends with David Njoku, I want the best for these guys.
37:23These are great players. They, well, they're not great players, but I'm sure they're great people, and they work hard, and they're
37:31gladiators, and I want them out there, and I'm sorry they're injured, but for fantasy, this might be the key that unlocks this offense.
37:40Yeah, it might be, and you know, for those in the chat who are talking about, well, it's all because the center
37:48went down, well, you know, Justin Herbert is an NFL quarterback who's been around for a while.
37:55Centers and guards go down all the time, you just, yeah, you can't be messing around with that kind of stuff.
38:03That's, you know, he's got to be able to overcome that.
38:07That should be an almost automatic thing for an offense, you know, between the offensive coordinator, you know, the offensive line coach,
38:15and the quarterback, they should be figuring out the protections so that they can just get it done.
38:22You know, this shouldn't be something that's really causing them a lot of problems inside of the game.
38:29Well, I would say though, on this, the one interesting part is, a center going down, that probably puts the most pressure
38:37on the coaching staff because that is basically a coach on the field is the center.
38:43So when you have to go to your backup center, it asks more of your offensive coordinator and your coaching staff, and
38:51when your offensive coordinator is a fraud, then, just like we saw last year with the Raiders, right, they had a fraudulent
38:59offensive line coach, who they had to have shadow meetings without him.
39:04They had the meetings with him, then they had a separate meeting without him because he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
39:13Okay, so clearly Mike McDaniel is not helping the situation because it does require more attention to detail and you have all
39:22these sloppy plays, all these penalties, that's coaching, man.
39:25So I do think coaching matters. I never said coaching doesn't matter.
39:29What I've said is coaching is not the reason guys succeed.
39:34that's not it, right? I mean, I believe George Seifert is the great example of this with the 49ers, okay?
39:41So they had the best offensive coach in the history of football.
39:46football. He left and the offense didn't decline at all.
39:49In fact, by some metrics it got better. So it's not about that.
39:54When there's challenges, when the center gets hurt, that's when the coaching actually matters.
40:00That's when you can actually help to at least keep things on schedule, not necessarily put guys in a position to blow the doors off versus be average.
40:10The coach can't do that. In fact, the coach can just do more damage than they can help.
40:17Typically, when a team is doing well, I'm going to credit the players, but sometimes, once or twice a year, you look
40:25at a team that's really struggling, in those cases, sometimes you look deeper, like with the Raiders last year and now with
40:33the Chargers this year, this is a little bit of a failure of coaching here.
40:39I think that's what we're seeing. Mike McDaniel, I hope he never gets another job again.
40:45I've seen enough of Mike McDaniel. I don't want to ever see him again.
40:50I don't want to see those sunglasses again. Never again.
40:54I have him right here. I have these right here.
40:58You see them? Do you recognize me? I'm a shitty offensive coordinator right now.
41:03Now I'm a terrible, overrated offensive coordinator. Now I'm just the pod father, whatever, you know me.
41:09And now, oh, really, really bad offensive coordinator. So hopefully he's gone and he can no longer poison what would otherwise be a good team.
41:19Well, there you go. But the Chargers' problems do go way farther back than McDaniel.
41:24Especially the penalties, too. It seems like they've always been a heavily penalized team.
41:30So I think we've got two things here. We've got a little bit of an institutional memory of, you know, or just,
41:38you know, the players kind of grow up into thinking that sloppy play is okay and the coaching staff is not doing anything about it.
41:47So it's kind of a one-two punch there. What about all this milk that Harbaugh was drinking?
41:54I thought he was tough. I thought he was a disciplinarian.
41:58This was the narrative. This is what I read in the athletic and all these places.
42:04And apparently it's none of it's true. It's all bullshit.
42:08Well, I mean, you know, everybody's got to draw their own conclusion on that.
42:13I see all the penalties keep happening year after year and I say, well, it is what it is at that point.
42:21You know, let the blame fall where it must.
42:24But let's move into a couple other backfields. Let's talk about the Patriots.
42:29We got Travion Henderson, Ramondre Stevenson. You know, ADP-wise in the offseason, they converged and then they crossed paths.
42:37I mean, you know, we were drafting Travion before we were drafting Ramondre and then they started kind of being about the same spot in the draft.
42:47And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, nope.
42:51You know, we're going to be drafting Ramondre before we take Travion.
42:55And, you know, week one, the Ramondre bowl case looked great.
42:59Week two, script completely flips. So, Matt, look in the crystal ball.
43:04Tell me what's the future of these two. Travion was a good player in college.
43:10Explosive. And the only reason he didn't produce more is because he was sharing a backfield with Quinshawn Judkins.
43:17And who can blame them, right? If you're the coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes, I'm going to play both these guys.
43:25The strange thing was he was a good pass blocker in college.
43:29Once he got to NFL level linebackers and edge rushers, Travion really struggled.
43:34But last year, he played a lot. And he rushed the ball 180 times.
43:40He had almost 1,000 rushing yards and over 5.0 yards per carry.
43:44So we're talking about he had, let's see, over 200 touches.
43:48Because I know he had more than 20 catches.
43:52He had like 35 catches. So let's see he had like 215 touches last year.
43:57He was a top 24 running back in fantasy points per game.
44:02Anytime you could put up those kind of numbers as a rookie with draft capital, that's a great sign, man.
44:09That's why you deserve to be drafted ahead of the big bulky guy that can do everything but nothing that well.
44:17You've got to chase the upside in that particular scenario if you're in fantasy football.
44:23So I 100% agreed with Henderson over Stevenson all year.
44:27We never flipped the script with our rankings. It was always Henderson over Stevenson by at least a round.
44:34I believe that that's even more true now. the fact that he's healthy in the first week he comes back, he dominates the production.
44:43Part of it is due to again, coaches have a way of meddling more than they're helping.
44:49Right? And one of the ways they meddle is by benching players based on singular mistakes, which is totally unfair.
44:57I don't agree with benching Stevenson for a fumble.
45:00I think that's silly and it's nonsense. It just so happened that similar to the Chargers, we're going to get to the
45:08right place, but not because of anything the coaches did.
45:12It's in spite of the coaches. We're going to get to the right place.
45:17Right? They just happen to bench a guy for the wrong reasons instead of on any given touch just Travion guy.
45:25He gives us the best opportunity to win and score a touchdown.
45:30That's the reason he should be out there. And if he struggles with pass pro, find ways to hide that, to account for that.
45:39Chip here, shift there. Don't take him off the field for a guy that runs a 4-7.
45:45Don't do that, man. I get why Stevenson's on the team.
45:49He's a good player. To have a big guy like that, a 230 pound running back that you can put in in
45:57third down, that's kind of a cool situation. Right?
46:01If it's third and long and we really need good pass protection, then, yeah, bring in Romadre.
46:07He can handle any of these blitzes up the middle and give Drake May a chance to get out in space and complete a pass.
46:17So there's certainly a role for Stevenson on the Patriots.
46:20It just is not the RB1 role. It should be Henderson.
46:24He should be the early down guy that's giving these explosive plays and they have figured that out.
46:31I just don't give them credit for figuring it out for the right reasons.
46:37I think it really was this petty fumble driven flip of the roles and responsibilities, but whatever, man, I'll take it.
46:44Henderson, because he's so good, took the opportunity, ran with it, and now the coaches don't have to be involved.
46:52They just have to pull down the tape. It's obvious to everybody.
46:56It's going to be the Henderson show, I think.
47:00Yeah, let's hope he doesn't fumble. Oh, God. Henderson fumbles.
47:04That would be the worst. Don't do that. I mean, you know, but Dan, my God, we got to the right place for the wrong reasons.
47:13Let's just leave it alone. Yeah, I know. I just have to get that stuff out into the universe so that it
47:22happens on the show rather than on the football field.
47:25That's the idea here. You got to say it so it doesn't actually happen.
47:31That's the thought process. Chandler Mercer says, Stevenson has the most fumbles in the league the last couple of years.
47:38Yeah, Stevenson is certainly near the top of the league in fumbles.
47:43I don't know about fumbles per touch, but certainly he has a reputation for fumbling that goes back many years, not just the last couple of years.
47:53This is a longstanding reputation that he has. So the solution to that is not to just bench him.
48:00The solution to that is to put him in game situations where he doesn't actually have to take so many carries.
48:08Yeah, right. So what is he good at? He's good at pass blocking and catching the ball out of the backfield.
48:16So there's no reason to give him the ball on second and five.
48:21He is a second and five. If Ramadri's in the game, you're doing something wrong.
48:26It's not about the fumbling. One fumble can happen to anybody.
48:30If he does have a ball security general issue, that doesn't mean he should be benched.
48:36That just means that you need to tailor the offense to his strengths versus his weaknesses and the same with Henderson.
48:44And I didn't see that in week two. What I saw was this petty benching instead of, oh, we're going to optimize the offense.
48:53Now, there are certainly offenses that do a better job of optimizing, but mostly even even Mike Vrabel was touted as one
49:01of the great coaches for a while. Right. This is a this is a big deal.
49:07If I follow the Patriots, it was a big deal.
49:11We got Vrabel. Right. What did we really get?
49:15Honestly, what did we get with Harbaugh? What did they really get?
49:19OK, narratives, coach narratives. You get edge in fantasy just by ignoring the coach narratives.
49:25That's one of the easiest edges ever in the history of fantasy football.
49:30Yep. There you go. So let's look in on the Saints backfield.
49:34You know, I for one did not foresee Etienne seeding 50% of the workload the first week to Kendra Miller.
49:42And now with Kamara after seeing Kendra you get 50% of the workload.
49:47That didn't surprise me so much. You know, and of course, poor Kendra he's, you know, thanks for handling half the workload.
49:55Now you're inactive for week two. You know, but thanks for playing.
49:59What is your crystal ball telling you about the backfield here?
50:03I mean, they paid Etienne a ton of money, a ton of money to be the guy.
50:10But of course, they're paying Kamara a ton of money also to, you know, ride off into the sunset with him.
50:18Where are we going here? Well, in general, we like to fade bad offenses and be bullish on the high scoring offenses.
50:26This is what led us to be ahead of consensus on a guy like Vele, on a guy like Olave, on a
50:34guy like Shuck, on a guy like Jawan Johnson.
50:38However, you are necessarily going to end up being a little out over your skis on a guy like H&TN.
50:45It happens. I don't think there's any learnings here at all.
50:49This was an all purpose back who signed a big contract and it was going to play for a high scoring team
50:58and there was real TD equity and all the high fantasy point scoring opportunities should have been driven his way.
51:05Sure, Kamara will be out there on third and long, but that's not a great fantasy point rich environment for a running back.
51:14The fantasy point rich environments week in, week out were supposed to be H&TNs and that has not played out.
51:21Week one was certainly the canary in the coal mine, not week two.
51:26Right? Week two solidified it, confirmed it, but we were terrified after week one because there was no excuse.
51:33There was nothing there. There was an injury, game script, there wasn't anything.
51:38So after week one, we started immediately adjusting projections, moving his carry share down, moving his target share down, and then we had to do it again.
51:48And so now we have him projected less than 200 carries.
51:52I don't know how you could do anything else.
51:56I mean, like 50 targets and like 190 carries, that's not an RB1, that's not even close.
52:02I don't care what offense you're in. So you just have to get real with this guy.
52:09And you just, if you're a fantasy football analyst with H&TN, I say just dust yourself off, move on, and there's not
52:17a lot you can learn about anything that you did wrong, projecting ETN, H&N to be a top 50 player in fantasy.
52:25If you didn't, I don't know what you were looking at because I think almost everyone that I know that knows anything was pretty bullish on H&TN.
52:35It was hard to find a case against him, and I don't even know what the case is against him.
52:43There was something against him with the coaching staff.
52:46I don't know what it is, but now we're two weeks in and we have to adjust.
52:52I hate it. I heard people fading him because he didn't get enough yards per carry in Jacksonville.
52:59Just weird stuff like that. Let's think a little bit here.
53:03Sometimes you're right for the wrong reasons. I wouldn't say to somebody like that.
53:09They paid him all that money, so clearly they weren't looking at it.
53:13Someone, whoever was signing him, wasn't looking at the yards per carry as an issue.
53:19I don't know. To try to argue with somebody like that, you would have to reprogram their thought process to the point
53:27where they'd even be receptive to an argument that makes sense.
53:32It's just not worth it. One of the many things we learn on X is some people just aren't worth arguing with.
53:40That's your opinion. If you drafted a bunch of Marvin Harrison Jr., you're a fool.
53:45If you drafted a bunch of Travis H.E. and Etienne, you're fine.
53:50Just don't worry about it. You're good. There you go.
53:54Let's get into, Matt, the Fantasy Carnivals. I'm interested.
53:57Who do you think are going to be Cincinnati Bengals and Dallas Cowboys of last year?
54:03High-powered offense, terrible defense that forces them to keep their foot mashed on the accelerator full-time on offense.
54:10What are those teams for this year? The best value team clearly is Carolina in that situation.
54:16Carolina, it's all value. Ted McMillan has simply delivered.
54:20This is the thing, man. There is no better reason why you fade players on bad teams in the top 50, which is what I do.
54:29It's a pretty ABC tactic. This isn't very complicated.
54:33I know. It's pretty arbitrary, pretty simple, rudimentary. but what is the case?
54:38Like, Ted McMillan, you would need the offense to be this for him to be that.
54:44So, I mean, you got lucky. If you drafted him, you got lucky that this offense is what no one could have possibly imagined.
54:53That's how he gets there, right? And you did that.
54:56Instead, we were very bullish on guys like, oh, I don't know, Jalen Coker.
55:02And I can't say that we were super bullish on Chuba Hubbard.
55:06But I have to tell you, if you went Hero RB or Zero RB, Chuba Hubbard fell into your lap.
55:14In fact, we had debates. If you go back to Trade Gods episodes, where we're talking about these startups, me and Coach
55:22are talking about these startups, and he's like, he's like most people, man.
55:27Coach is, he's a normal football guy. He knows a lot, but he's just like, sorry, man, Chuba Hubbard's not really moving the needle for me.
55:37And I'm like, yeah, I know, man. It wasn't like I came back with this incredible, super strong argument for Chuba Hubbard
55:45because this is the Carolina offense, I thought. But I also was like, I need someone to start week one.
55:52I don't know what I'm going to do. I got to start somebody week one, Hero RB, Zero RB.
55:59I remember there was a draft where I went bully tight end, and I went Bowers Tyler Warren and tight in premium
56:08ended up and all this incredible value kept falling to me at wide receiver like Zay Flowers and I was just like,
56:16oh my God, I don't have a running back yet.
56:20And it was super flex, so I had to draft a couple quarterbacks.
56:25Next thing I know, I've drafted, I don't know, maybe that one league I better drafted Stafford and then Devontae Adams fell
56:33to me, so I'm like, I guess I look up, I'm like, coach, the only starter left is Chuba Hubbard.
56:40I gotta get him. He's like, you sure? Sure you don't want to wait around and get Jonathan Brooks?
56:48I'm like, I'll make a deal with in But in Dynasty, because things can play out all kinds of different ways and
56:56much deeper rosters, you can absolutely handcuff and it's not necessarily going to be betting against yourself as it is in redraft and seasonal leagues.
57:05I was like, I'll make a deal with you.
57:09I know I'm a boomer, but I feel like I need a to get Chuba.
57:14I'm not sorry. This happened to me over and over again.
57:18I draft Scadaboo as my RB1 and then I'm panicking I'm like, I gotta start someone weak.
57:25I gotta go Chuba Hubbard. I'm happy with all this Chuba Hubbard I have, but I just want to admit this was
57:33not based on some super sophisticated bulls case for Chuba Hubbard.
57:37It leagues, which he was in dynasty. It was absurd.
57:41Double digit rounds. He's still there. He's still there.
57:44He's still there. I even got him around after Jonathan Brooks went and I was like, fine, I guess I'll take Hubbard again.
57:53And now I'm like, here we are. Trust me, the Carolina offense being the new Lions was not one of the reasons why.
58:02In fact, again, it was one of the reasons why I didn't get a lot of Tett McMillan.
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59:09You know who I think is probably possibly out of the fantasy carnival business might be the Bengals.
59:16Their defense is suddenly looking legit. Too good. They lost Trey Hendrickson.
59:20Can you believe this is happening? I know, right?
59:24I can't believe it. You lose one of the best edge rushers in the league and your defense gets a lot better.
59:32Now, there might be some people that are super defensive personnel experts and they're like, I saw this!
59:39They drafted player X and they signed player Y and player Z got healthy and more.
59:45Okay, great. I didn't have it, man. I didn't have it.
59:49I didn't see it. Maybe there's some data points that we missed that you saw.
59:55Good for you. But it is a problem. It's a problem for everybody.
59:59Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, all the chases, T. Higgins, Burrow.
60:03Burrow, you know, is, he's pretty stable in Dynasty for this reason.
60:08but in seasonal leagues, yeah, he's just not going to be what we thought because you need the defense, especially the secondary,
60:16to allow teams to come back in the second half.
60:20That's the way these shootouts happen. That's how they unfold.
60:24And when I see games that I think are going to shoot out, kind of get strangled in the third quarter, I'm like, uh-oh, don't do that.
60:34Can you let them throw? What are you doing?
60:37Stop sacking them. Bengals! Like, I'm mad at their defense.
60:41It's, yeah. So, you're, Smith and Jigba is now even though he's on a great team with a great defense, he doesn't have T.
60:50Higgins. Right. Okay? That's the difference. Now, it's almost some parity between these two teams where the defenses are much more similar
60:58this year than they were last year. And with Jamar Chase, it's like, I mean, you're going to start to see the disparity really pull away.
61:08So, last week, Smith and Jigba took over the wide receiver one spot and Dynasty on Player Profiler.
61:15Now, you're going to see that disparity really start to widen.
61:19And we could be, man, we could be at a place where we started the year where Josh Allen was way out in front, right?
61:28And he's maintained his lead. He's actually, he's pulled away.
61:32At tight end, Bowers started the year way out in front, and now that's tightened.
61:37He and McBride are coming close to parity. At running back, Jameer Gibbs, right?
61:43But we'll see, with Michael Penix back, that's an interesting topic to talk about today, is with Michael Penix back, that's definitely going to help B.
61:53John Robinson. That's not just about London and Pitts.
61:56That's also about B. John Robinson. I can't believe how much we have riding on Michael Penix now.
62:03I did not see that coming. But we have a lot of, I mean, it's amazing.
62:09I tuned into SiriusXM Fantasy just to hear some bad analysis, just to hear people hymn and hawn and not give any conviction behind their take.
62:18That's why you listen to other podcasts that are not on the Player Profiler Network.
62:24and the first thing I heard was, well, everything's going to change now that Michael Penix.
62:30And I was like, this was not something anyone was saying.
62:34Michael Penix was not the same. And then sure enough, you look at the dynasty rankings, even on our site, and it's
62:42like, yeah, Penix is starting to rise. This is going to happen.
62:47Tua never materialized as competition. Cooper Rush imploded. And so now the organization necessarily has to commit to Penix.
62:54And this has long-term consequences. This is good for everybody if he's coming back from an ACL.
63:00So there's no guarantee. But we know that he's all they have now to save this team.
63:07And if he can somehow have a couple good weeks, whoo!
63:11Like, he's an interesting super flex buy because he could go either way.
63:16But I think he's going to go in a positive direction.
63:20And I think it's going to help everybody. It's going to help hopefully Bijon keep Gibbs in sight, not let Gibbs pull away.
63:29But I think by the end of the year, I expected Bowers to have pulled away.
63:35But we could see by the end of this year, Jackson Smith and Jigba have pulled away from everybody else to a
63:43greater degree than Josh Allen is from the other quarterbacks and Bowers is from the other tight ends and Gibbs is from the other running backs.
63:53That's pretty interesting and cool that we have a wide receiver that is thriving at that level with such a great defense.
64:01I love it. It's highly unusual for sure. So unusual, but it also indicates how good he is.
64:08I mean, you can watch hard knocks and you can it's very apparent watching a game on Sunday.
64:14It's very apparent how good he is, right? But in the context of that offense and that with that defense, it's like,
64:23wow, you knew there would be more opportunities without Kenneth Walker and that they wouldn't have as much of a run first identity.
64:31And, but now for him to do what he's doing, even without Sam Darnold under center, my goodness, my goodness, Dan, he might be the number.
64:41Well, he is trending toward being the number one league winner, like the guy that's going to be in the most money
64:49winning teams across FFPC, NFFC, underdog, fast draft, all these platforms.
64:54He might be the highest percentage of like advancing teams.
64:57It just might be, did you draft JSN in the first round or not?
65:03It might come down to that. Yeah, it could.
65:06The one thing working against him is there are a lot of other first rounders that are absolutely smashing so far this
65:14year, which is often not the case. even some guys who are going in the early second round.
65:21I'm looking at a guy like Ken Walker and I'm going, this guy is doing actually what we want B.
65:28John Robinson to be doing. Right. And he's on that better team with a quarterback that you know is going to be good.
65:37It's like all the questions with B. John aren't there with Walker, which makes him, I think, a really, really interesting play, especially at Dynasty.
65:47I don't know where I haven't looked in the past week where you guys have him ranked.
65:53Where is he on our site? Do we have Kenneth Walker right up there behind B.
65:59John? Because I think he probably ought to be.
66:02We don't. He's RB8 right now, but he's behind.
66:06Because of age, he's behind Gentie. He's behind Love.
66:09He's behind Hampton. And he's right there. There's a tier with James Cook, Jonathan Taylor, Kenneth Walker where they're all just intermixed.
66:17But again, this hasn't been updated since week two's performances.
66:21So by the end of the day, I don't have the data in front of me.
66:27But if I had to guess, because he's 26 and the other two running backs in that tier are 27, he will
66:35be RB6 when the day is out. And then the big question is going to be how soon can he take over Hampton?
66:44He's very much inside of Hampton. He is only actually two and a half years older than Hampton.
66:51And this offense is a we are coming to Jesus on this offense as much as I am hopeful that the Chargers
66:59offense turns around by the by necessity, the necessity of having to go back to 11 personnel exclusively almost.
67:06I'm hopeful that's the case, but you have to get real after two games.
67:11So it's him leapfrogging Taylor Cook Hampton is basically a straight line.
67:16And yeah, in dynasty, it's a very tall order for a 26-year-old running back to overcome a top five pick like Jeremiah Love.
67:25Yeah, and I can see that. it probably won't happen because I think that Jeremiah Love is going to start getting better
67:33simply because the data indicates that every week that goes by post high ankle sprain, the player becomes a little bit more
67:41agile, a little bit more explosive, and Gentry's putting up huge numbers, so he's not going to surpass Gentry.
67:48So there, I think he has a pretty hard ceiling at RB5, but I think in a couple weeks if he keeps
67:56performing, he could be the entrenched RB5, and there's not a huge gap between him and Jeremiah Love.
68:03Yeah, and I think honestly, I know age matters, but on the other hand, with running backs, we also have to take
68:11a look at who's having the killer season right now, and is likely to maybe have another one next year, and potentially even the year after that.
68:22I mean, I think Ken Walker is a guy who's in that window where, you know, I can look at him and
68:30I can say, this year for sure if he stays healthy, next year for sure if he stays healthy, and probably the
68:38year after that, you know, if they keep committing to him, you know, he's got that kind of talent.
68:45It's very strange, though. You have to admit it's very strange.
68:49Four years in the league, right? Yeah. Four years in the league, he was never better than RB12 in fantasy points per game.
68:58Okay. Oh, yeah. So he capped out at 16.5 fantasy points per game in 2024.
69:04I don't know. I don't know what was going on.
69:07I mean, clearly, Seattle knows what they're doing. This is a well, this is an above average managed and coached organization, and
69:16they got him to Super Bowl MVP and let him walk.
69:20They had to let him walk, though. They had so many elite players that needed to be signed to extensions, specifically Jackson
69:28Smith and Jigba and many others, that I knew it was an impossible task.
69:33When you looked at the roster and all the expiring contracts, you're like, okay, Kenneth Walker is gone.
69:40We know that, and it's going to be a hard decision, but they're smart enough to make that decision because they have to know.
69:49This isn't like Dave Gettleman's Giants. They know the value of the running back position, but he's never had 10 touchdowns in a season.
69:58He's going to have 10 touchdowns in like five games.
70:02So it's interesting. It's interesting. Certainly, if you wanted to put him and post him up at, say, even RB2 for this
70:10season, in seasonal ranks for this year, if you wanted to go Gibbs, Walker, Bijon, I wouldn't blink.
70:17Yeah, and that's if I was redrafting the first round, I think that's how I'd do it.
70:23Except I'd throw JSN in there as well before Bijon.
70:27I think the reason I say the advance rate on the JSN teams is going to be so high, that's because there
70:35were these running backs like Kenneth Walker that you could get.
70:39So I think the JSN start, and especially the JSN Walker teams, are going to be just, they're going for sure.
70:47In some of the high stakes, it was tough to get a JSN Walker, just because Walker got pushed up so early,
70:56to the point where JSN didn't fall back far enough in the first round to where you could pair him up with Walker.
71:04That's a pretty sicko league for that to happen.
71:08I saw that happen at the NFFC late, late, late in the summer.
71:12You saw the, Walker was just, he was, he was just such a fun thing to watch him go from third round
71:21to early third round to late second round to mid second round to early second round.
71:27You saw the movement, right? You saw the march up the rank, and those guys, I like to draft those guys because
71:35oftentimes there's some hesitancy to select them because it feels like you're getting bad value because you're, well, the argument could be,
71:43well, the time to get him was three months ago.
71:47And I didn't get it, I didn't get him three months ago, and if I didn't get him three months ago, I
71:55don't want to get him now because his ADP was X, now it's Y.
72:01There is a psychological effect there. I have tried my best to train myself to see this actually as a positive indicator
72:09that there's, especially when it's smart people processing new situations, when you see a player in a new situation start to climb
72:17like that, you start to think, okay, people have figured this out.
72:22It was kind of like, you saw Duntavian Wicks moving up too.
72:26And so there's some smart people figuring out this new situation and what it means for Duntavian Wicks.
72:33that was another one where you could buy the upward trajectory, buy the positive ADP movement and get out ahead of it.
72:41Actually, the funny thing is about eight years ago, I had a podcast with Chad Schroeder and he talked about exactly this.
72:49He talked about exactly this. He talked about trying to get ahead of upward moving ADPs and buying the upward moving ADPs.
72:58And I remember that being a whole topic of a podcast and now we're here and we're looking at my guesses if
73:06I had to guess, I don't have his rosters in front of me.
73:11If I had to guess, Chad Schroeder has a lot of Kenneth Walker, if I had to guess.
73:18Yeah, I think he's got a good amount of it.
73:21The thing is with Chad, he is such a value drafter.
73:25Because he does so many leagues, he will just sit there and pick off value.
73:31He doesn't need to push up players because he's going to get that player at a value in one of the leagues that he's drafting.
73:40Which makes him very interesting to compete against because you're competing against the entire portfolio in a way in these contests.
73:48You've got to be able to find a team that gets as good or better value than one of his 80 teams or 100 teams or whatever.
73:58It makes it fun for us guys who do a little bit less volume than that.
74:05I certainly have my volume, but I'm not at Chad Schroeder level.
74:09Not at all. Let's get out of a couple of things.
74:13I want to talk dynasty buy lows and sell highs and then get a bold prediction from you too.
74:20Oh boy. Buy low in dynasty. It's always tricky, man.
74:24I think we've talked about a couple of them.
74:27I mean, like Travis ETN, HAN. I think that's one right there.
74:32People are disgusted by him right now. They really are.
74:36I think that there's going to be games where the Saints are winning and they've been losing in these games.
74:43They've had to play comeback and they've just said it's they've just switched over into shock hero ball in these games.
74:51And so let's look at the Saints schedule. I just think we look at the Saints schedule, see if we can feel better about it.
75:00They're playing the Raiders at home. I know the Raiders are better this year, but Raiders at home is good.
75:08Then they get Atlanta at home, Minnesota at home.
75:11So don't forget, the Saints went on the road.
75:15Okay. Again, they beat Baltimore, but that was one of those games, right, where Baltimore was up and the Saints came back
75:23in the fourth quarter, 15 points in the fourth quarter to come back and beat Baltimore.
75:29Most of the minutes played by Saints players have been behind.
75:33And that's a potential reason that you might want to sell high on a guy like Devon Vele because Jordan Tyson is coming back.
75:42I wouldn't do that because I don't know what the hell Jordan Tyson is.
75:47I'm just going to hold Vele and make Jordan Tyson prove to me he's any good.
75:53Right? And you didn't pay that much for Vele anyway.
75:57I mean, look at the schedule though. They've got at New York, which no Jackson Dart, that's week six.
76:04Week seven, they've got Pittsburgh at home. Then week nine, they've got Cleveland at home.
76:10Then they've got a shootout with Carolina, a shootout with Chicago.
76:14It's a long season. And so the last time I checked, Kendra Miller is not this massive needle moving running back.
76:22Okay? Talk about yards per carry. Okay? Okay. Versus Kendra Miller, chop please.
76:27Right? And Alvin Kamara, he's a good, reliable third down back at this point in his career.
76:33Not a major threat. And probably going to miss some more games, which is just what happens when guys start having lower body injuries.
76:42The age starts to factor in once you start having lower body injuries stacking up on top of each and then it
76:51only gets better and better from there. So again, they play Carolina again in week 14.
76:57It get tough game at Tampa in week 15, but then to close out the year, man, week 16, Arizona, week 17 at Atlanta.
77:06So this is, this is good. So yeah, I think that, I think that people might be surprised with where we're going
77:14to have Travis HN ETN in the dynasty rankings, not necessarily burying him like some might expect that he should be.
77:22We are definitely not going to be doing that.
77:25A guy that I think is a buy high right now is Bucky Irving.
77:30Bucky Irving's usage has been better than anyone would have expected, and I'm a big Kenneth Gainwell fan, but I talked about this in the offseason.
77:40I actually ended up drafting more Bucky Irving and Sean Tucker than Kenneth Gainwell, because this was the first offseason that people respected Kenneth Gainwell.
77:49And I'm like, if this is the first year you're going to respect a guy that's 30 years old, I can't be drafting him.
77:58I had him on all the others. I don't need more Gainwell, thanks.
78:03The year people discover the thing you've been super high on is the year you're probably going to get a lot less of him.
78:12And that's cool. That's cool. That's fine. So I think that I'm buying high.
78:18I think Bucky Irving has plenty of room to run.
78:21I still think we're a couple weeks away from people fully understanding that Bucky Irving is back as a bell cow back.
78:30I think that another buy low potentially in all leagues, not just Dynasty.
78:35Rico Dowdle is going to have weeks. The usage for Rico Dowdle, especially week one, was very encouraging.
78:41And this is a guy that's incredibly cheap everywhere.
78:45People are letting him go. So there's a guy I like as a buy low at running back.
78:51I also think that Nicholas Singleton, he's not really a buy low because no one's really moved him down.
78:59This is all as expected that he would start the year in active week one.
79:04This is like this is every again. This is not a crazy weird NFL season.
79:10This is a year where day three running back is inactive week one and he's active week two and he starts to
79:18get carries and then things happen and then Tony Pollard gets traded.
79:23Tony Pollard's probably going to get traded. The idea that Tony Pollard wouldn't be traded is crazy to me.
79:30It's just crazy. So he actually could get traded somewhere that has an injury and Tony Pollard could be amazing in the second half with a better team.
79:40That could happen. So he's also a buy low for that reason.
79:45Not because I think he's going to do anything on the Titans but I think you go ahead and buy Pollard and
79:53Singleton knowing that one's going to part ways again this is assuming rational front office and that's a big ask of NFL front offices to be rational.
80:03I get it. I mean just look again look at what the Chargers did this offseason.
80:09But it should happen. It probably will happen. So they're going to clear the deck for Singleton in the second half and
80:17that might mean Pollard hopefully doesn't get injured. If he doesn't get injured they're probably going to move on and then so
80:26you're betting if he stays healthy you might end up somewhere else.
80:30Longer term I think that if you're looking for next year I think the number one most coveted running back in free
80:38agency is going to be Braylon Allen. I think that Isaiah Davis is good enough that they don't need to resign Braylon
80:47Allen and that Braylon Allen you've seen enough this year already that if given an opportunity because he has a bell cow
80:55profile and skill set he could be a monster next year.
80:59And he'll still be pretty young. Abs absolute monster next year.
81:03So yeah he's young. I love that for him.
81:07Yeah the problem I mean Carnal Tate is a buy low especially in I think that there's leagues where he's being dropped in seasonal and redraft leagues.
81:17I know you said dynasty but I'm absolutely betting on the talent there and them figuring it out with Carnal Tate.
81:25I'm going to bet on that. I think there's something there with the Titans.
81:30I think the Titans it's it's still early in Cameron Ward's career.
81:34There's still plenty of time for him to get this thing figured out.
81:39And in terms of buy high at wide receiver.
81:43You're good just go out go ahead and shoot try to try to you know how like when you're skeet shooting you
81:51have to shoot in front of the of the of the clay disc.
81:56Yeah. Right. You need to shoot in front of Parker Washington.
82:00Just try to get him just buy high on Parker Washington.
82:04Nice little buy window on Zay Flowers by the way.
82:08Love that. I also think that eventually I get that Deshaun Watson has exceeded expectations.
82:14The bar was very very very low. Eventually they are going to turn to Shader Sanders.
82:20I think that Shader Sanders could be a fun a fun quarterback for the Browns.
82:25And we talked about that they're going to play the Saints and there's going to be some fun games.
82:32And we've already seen the mothballing of Jerry Judy.
82:36I think that the the the those that just doing the target share math it seemed hard to believe that Jerry Judy
82:44wouldn't at least get a 15% target share this year but we now have him projected for like an 11% target share
82:52like he's done like Jerry Judy's completely dust and all the attention is on Denzel Boston think a great by low again
83:00it's not really a by low in dynasty because most savvy dynasty leaguers aren't punting rookie receivers after two weeks.
83:08So more maybe of a seasonal redraft by low would be Casey enception.
83:13But even in dynasty try to get him right try to get him.
83:18We're also very fortunate right now. I think this you could consider this a by low in all formats would be Michael Wilson.
83:26That it's not just going to be it's not just going to be the Trey McBride show all year.
83:33There's going to be teams that match up with Trey McBride and try to shut down Trey McBride and there will be
83:42Michael Wilson's going to have some big boom weeks like he did in the second half last year because you might say
83:50oh the splits with and without Harrison. Harrison's gone.
83:53You can now calculate Michael Wilson's projection as if Harrison's not there because he's really not even there.
84:00So you might as well go get Michael Wilson everywhere you can while you have time.
84:06And again I know this is the checkers move.
84:10This is the basic move but I was very concerned about Alec Pierce this offseason.
84:15We had him probably two rounds below consensus. I think you probably saw that when you looked at the wide receiver rankings
84:23like where the hell they have Pierce? I bet you thought that.
84:28Just like where the hell they have Jordan Tyson?
84:31Where the hell they have Marvin Harrison? I can't even find these guys.
84:36Right? So Josh Downs is like an obvious play this week.
84:40Again when I listen to other shows and podcasts they start sit decisions.
84:45They're hemming and hawing maybe Josh Downs but with caveats.
84:49No caveats. People come on fantasy analysts have some conviction.
84:53It's Josh Downs season. This is what we've been waiting for.
84:57Josh Downs and his skill set matching up perfectly with the Daniel Jones offense.
85:02And all we've seen this year is them scripting plays for him at the beginning of week one.
85:09So we know the coaches want to get in the ball.
85:13Then he gives us like the productive non-touchdown performance in week two which we wanted.
85:19Now we don't have Alec Pierce. And again shame on you for drafting players that are injured in the offseason.
85:26More often than not it's going to end in failure.
85:30It's not it doesn't end well. So many people are trying to draft even like a Malik neighbors.
85:37I know Malik neighbors is going to finally have weeks and I know we get Jackson Dart get injured and it's not his fault.
85:46But even before Jackson Dart went down he was not himself.
85:50So why do it? Why put yourself in that position?
85:54You're going to have plenty of injuries to deal with during the season.
85:58Why start before the season even starts? Why put yourself behind before the season even starts with guys like Alec Pierce and
86:07guys like Malik neighbors and guys like Jeremiah Love?
86:10It's just this is not complicated. Again this isn't even overly sophisticated.
86:15These are just basic principles you can live by and an easy one plus one equals two move is to go get
86:23Josh Downs before he scores a touchdown. There you go.
86:27All right. So how about a bold prediction for 2026 Matt?
86:31You got one of those scores? I saw this on the show sheet and I said to myself I'm going to I'm going to get one.
86:41I'm going to think of one and I'm not I'm not going to like I'm not going to try to get one.
86:49I think that. Oh man. You want you want me to give you one?
86:54You you start. Well here's here's what we're going to do.
86:58All right. Here's what we're going to do to me.
87:02It's apparent that we'll go back to the Chargers.
87:05OK. It's apparent to me that the way that they get out of this hellscape that they found themselves in like losing
87:14to the Cardinals losing to the Cardinals who then get blown out the following week which is the worst scenario and then
87:22starting going to anyone that watches the games anyone that knows anything about football take all the information.
87:29I want to have a hot I want to have a hot take and I want to have a bold prediction that
87:37actually aligns with what we've talked about already. Lad McConkie is necessary if you want to get out of this right.
87:45If you want to win the war against the Dark Lord you need Gollum.
87:50I know he's not that exciting and he's annoying a little bit.
87:55Lad McConkie is not that exciting. He's a little bit annoying but they need him man.
88:01They need him and I think that they're going to have to look in the mirror and realize that he needs to
88:09be out there for every snap every play and the way out of this mess is via Lad McConkie.
88:16Lad McConkie is a top five wide receiver this year.
88:20They are going to come to Jesus and realize we're going to run this entire thing through Lad McConkie.
88:27Certainly it's we're going to see we're going to see some weeks from from Trey Harris.
88:33That's going to be great and certainly you want as much Gadsden as you can off the waiver wire this week please
88:41by all means but I don't want to distract from the number the crux of what will save this offense which is
88:49this becoming a Lad McConkie centric offense. If they do that they get out of this and Lad McConkie is a top
88:58five dynasty asset and he's a top five wide receiver in fantasy football this year.
89:03Boom. There it is. And I got to say Matt I have never heard Lad McConkie compared to Gollum before.
89:11So that's an original. I like it. I like it.
89:15All right. So let's we'll get you out of here Matt.
89:19Thank you for joining the show today. Really appreciate it.
89:22Anything you want to plug here before you get out?
89:26I do. I'm wearing a fantasy spin hat and the fantasy spin is every again I talked about tuning into Sirius XM.
89:34I'm on Roto Wire at 130 and I'm on with Howard at 630.
89:39Howard Bender and the fantasy alarm guys on Thursdays.
89:43So if you have Sirius XM and you're in the car at either 130 in the afternoon Eastern time or 630 Eastern
89:51I go on with them and we spin a lineup and it it is one of the most it's some of the
89:59most fun I've had in my life in fantasy not because I'm begging you to go get the fantasy spin app tune
90:07into the shows if you have Sirius and just with Andrew and Howard and with it with the Roto Wire guys we have such a good time.
90:18It's really and it goes to a larger theme of 2026 for me personally and I think you alluded to this earlier
90:26that I've just been having so much fun with fantasy this year.
90:30It's been amazing. It's been amazing working with you and playing fantasy with you and talking fantasy with you and everyone at
90:39Player Profiler and so it's all part of that it's all part of that story and so yeah that's it.
90:46Awesome. Awesome. All right. Well thanks again for coming on and as always I love feedback on the show so for those
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