0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! Oh, what a day it is! Why, is this the day that Marv is getting on a plane and flying away?
0:12Brother, there's so much happening. So much happening. It's a big day.
0:16We're recording an hour early. You're gonna see this hit your feed.
0:19Are we putting it up early? Yeah, why not?
0:22Yeah, of course we are. What, do you want to delay it?
0:26I know Mike's worried. Mike's like, ah, the people are gonna want this every day.
0:30Yeah. No, we could never do this every day.
0:33No, no way. We gotta poop in the morning.
0:36Yeah, I haven't pooped. I haven't eaten breakfast. That's a good start to the show.
0:41No, I mean, I have, this is the last day of my life.
0:45The last moment of my life where I am a person that didn't hit a hole in one.
0:50That's all I'm, I've been telling you that I can hit a hole in one for what feels like a decade.
0:56Yeah, okay. And in a few hours. Here's what's going on.
1:00I will be a person that's hit one. It started on the Spitballers, which if you haven't listened, Spitballers podcast, where the
1:07idea that Andy could definitely hit a hole in one.
1:10If he was given a day on one hole, he could absolutely sink a hole in one.
1:15Facts? I mean, with supreme confidence. What's facts that you said you could do it?
1:20That's right. So far we are factually accurate. And so we have put this to, or we're about to put this to the test.
1:27We have booked a hole on a golf course.
1:30Yeah. Till 10 PM tonight. Only, what did I say?
1:33Only God can stop it. And what's happening right now?
1:36It is pouring on the course at the moment, but otherwise I wouldn't.
1:40It's going to pass by the time we get there.
1:43I think the weather will be nice and we will, Mike and I will be enjoying ourselves.
1:48Yes. And you will be getting sore. You won't enjoy yourself for that long.
1:52I'm going to make my prediction. Oh, okay. I'm going to, I have 10 hours, right?
1:57Yes. About 10 hours. Write down how long you think it's going to take.
2:02I think you have 12 hours. 10 to 10.
2:0410 to 10. That's 12 hours. 12 hours. To hit a hole in one.
2:09Jason, I want you to write down your prediction of how long it takes him to do it.
2:14Don't just put 12 down. I'm not. I swear.
2:17Um, four hours and seven minutes. I'll hit a hole in one.
2:21I wrote never. I put 77. Hours? 77 hours.
2:23Yeah. Of straight hitting. Not just like from now and then you sleep during it.
2:28You need. I mean, I do. There is some mathematical.
2:31I do have some odds here. Like I did the analysis this week and we've got Chris Cash, our writer.
2:37He's a, he's a numbers guy. Yeah. He, he thought, um, it was possible.
2:42Now the odds. I think what did he give you?
2:45Like, I think probably about way too high. Way too high.
2:48It was like 30% of something like that. That's nonsense.
2:51Here's the thing that people don't understand. When you are an amateur, a regular average golfer, which is exactly what I am.
2:58The average handicap is 15. I'm like a 15, 16.
3:01Oh man. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I know Jason.
3:04I'm so sorry to tell you. You are so above average.
3:07I am so above average. You are. 15 is a dream.
3:11You're in the gifted program. Um, but the odds on any random part three for an average golfer is one in 12,500.
3:17Okay. Per shot. Can you hit 12,500 shots today?
3:20No. The problem is, is that number comes from just a random shot on a random hole.
3:25I'm going to get to apply this incredible brain to the, the slopes and the altitudes and the, I get to hit it over and over again.
3:34You're going to dial it in. I'm going to dial it in quite easily.
3:38Now I'm not going to mention the fact that I was on a driving range the other day and got pretty sore in about 20 minutes.
3:46So I'm going to be honest. You don't have to.
3:49I'm looking, I know I am looking forward to finding out if I'm rooting for you or not.
3:55One, because I'm like right now, I'm not sure if I want you to make it or not.
4:00And, Oh, cause you know how I'll be. Really?
4:03I definitely want him to make it. Oh, you do?
4:06Yes. Of course I want it. I want my friend to succeed.
4:10Thank you. I want it to happen. It's just the point.
4:13It's not possible. The point is what we said.
4:16The reason this is happening is we told. I would like to sprout wings and fly far, far away.
4:22We said he couldn't do it. Well, that's where I'm saying like, you know, you're rooting against yourself in a way.
4:28They, uh, one of our writers wrote in and said after three hours, good luck grabbing the club.
4:34Yep. Not worried. Uh, okay. I have a right hand.
4:37I do need breakfast. If you need it, if you want a double glove, I got you.
4:42I don't want to be on camera double gloving.
4:45Okay. Say that after 200 swings. What's wrong with the double gloving?
4:48Nothing. Nothing. Just someone just won the PJ tour with double gloves and I get made fun of.
4:54What's I don't. It's just because it's not fashionable.
4:57Oh, only have a left handed glove. Oh, okay.
4:59You did switch back to only one glove and I regretted it.
5:03Yeah. But why'd you do it? I did it because I thought I was hitting better with one glove.
5:09Oh, okay. But you were hitting just as bad.
5:12Just as bad. Maybe worse. The second glove was helping.
5:15Did I just get, uh, did I just get turned into a blue?
5:19Like is the, you sure did. Hold on. Go back to that camera.
5:23We fixed it. Oh, I was kind of. No, it's still off.
5:26Oh yeah. Cool. Well, go main cam. This is just the future.
5:30Okay. That's how you skin's gonna look after the end.
5:33This is a fantasy football podcast. Uh, it is not a golf podcast.
5:37We have our Monday Punday reactions to the weekend.
5:40The injury list was insane to go into the weekend.
5:43We have a Marvin Harrison Jr. trade that broke in the weirdest way possible.
5:47So much to get to. We've got news. We've got studs and duds and we're doing it all right now.
5:53Starting with your reactions to the weekend with a little elegant Monday Punday.
5:57I haven't even seen all of these this morning because it's been a crazy morning, but let's start with Isaiah.
6:04Definitely not likely. Definitely. Start of the week or Parker Washington.
6:07I like that. Uh, I'm taking mine. Christian Hudson.
6:10Oh, and I'm taking mine. Matthew golden ticket. How about Yalen Warren?
6:13Okay. There's a lot of yay. Malik Yebers, Garrett Thrilson.
6:16Okay. Mike Evans almighty. He is the weirdest player.
6:19Oh, he's great, but you never know his. His body is deteriorating.
6:23I know. Uh, great may and Jaden manuals, of course, but they weren't all good.
6:28We knew this one was coming. Tyler. Yuck. Yeah.
6:30Tyler. What the shock? That's the one. How about won't ship Lee?
6:34No. And Romeo sobs. RJ hardly. Uh, no Colston bust land.
6:37Yeah. About a scam. Scataboo. Uh, yeah, we got, uh, got nothing.
6:41Taylor. Chase let down. I like, we're, we're, we're losing the names here.
6:45Uh, Omarion. Hamp done. Oh, Jalen fraud. Oh, along with his quarterback.
6:49Boo. Knicks. Yeah. I like that. Justin Herbert cannot be on this list anymore.
6:53He. No, cause it's not. There's nothing. It is what it is.
6:57Yeah. Cause when I'm thinking about Bo Nicks, I'm like, man, he is as bad as Justin Herbert has been Justin Herbert, but that's assumed he's man.
7:05That division. Seriously. It's unstoppable. Football is freaking hilarious because you have like that.
7:09The AFC West was going to be like, that is a premier division.
7:13Right. Are you, you're saying the way that the Broncos are playing?
7:17Yeah. Well, I'm saying like, yeah, the Broncos are like, the victorious Broncos chargers.
7:21You're like, okay. Chiefs. Yeah. I'm saying like, it's a surprise.
7:25And then you got the AFC North where I believe every team is above 500.
7:29Yeah. They, I mean, yeah, it is. It is.
7:32And then that, and then you have the NFC East.
7:35Oh, where all four teams played to played each other.
7:38No one won. Yeah. No one won. That's incredible.
7:41The end of that game. Now I wasn't here with you guys.
7:45Oh yeah. We've got to talk. I was watching that with my son.
7:49I, Cam Scadaboo fumbles a play. You just can't fumble.
7:52Yeah. He would have been the story. First of all, rewind a little bit.
7:56You got to go back even further. Because Cam Scadaboo was not being used.
8:00That dude was bent. That was a game. Yes.
8:03That was a game where it was like, if you had been using him, you'd be winning this game.
8:09Why has he not been on the field? Then when push comes to shove, they, they, they battle back in there in
8:16the game and they're like, okay, let's, let's put the ball in Cam's hands.
8:20He dominates. He starts. I mean, he was the reason they got into field goal range to win that game.
8:26And then he fumbled. It was like, Oh God, he fumbles.
8:29And then people in charge of this Washington franchise that is worth, I don't know how many billion dollars.
8:35They don't understand how to manage the end. They don't understand how a clock, a clock, if it's running, it just keeps moving.
8:42And then like, but there's ways to stop it in that are very defined in the rules.
8:48I mean, this is, they had no idea how to handle this.
8:51So what happened real quick, if you didn't listen, this game went to overtime in part because Cam Scadaboo fumbled and they couldn't kick.
8:59Well, that was in the, yeah, that was in the, yes.
9:02Before giants should have won at that point. Then Washington should have won.
9:06Washington was in easy field goal range. Yes. They had a minute on the clock, no timeouts, but there's a minute.
9:12They run a play. They've got 40 seconds on the game.
9:16I mean this, they, the world is in their hands to just basically kick a field goal.
9:21And we just clock it. I mean, listen, game time ran out.
9:25Yeah. And it ran out. So they're just kind of lackadaisical in the, in the huddle, 20 seconds on the clock, 17, 16, 15.
9:32They run a play. Jaden Daniels scrambles and just goes down and then gets up with three seconds.
9:38So the clock runs when you go down though.
9:40Yeah. It does. Yeah. Didn't throw the ball away.
9:43Now listen, Dan Quinn, that was awful. You at least stood in front of a podium and took full responsibility.
9:49Oh man. Full responsibility. You fell down for your team.
9:52You took all arrows. You didn't blame your quarterback.
9:55You deserved the arrows, but you took them. You stood, a hundred percent.
9:59Are you telling me that Lamar Jackson doesn't look at the clock and Lamar Jackson doesn't know what's going on in the game.
10:06Jaden Daniels took no responsibility and he says, it starts at the top down.
10:10He's got to be, Jaden Daniels just kept saying, I gotta be better.
10:14Jaden Daniels. So you messed up. I gotta be better.
10:17No, but he was like, we gotta be better.
10:20I mean, honest to goodness, I feel like his press conference was absolute nonsense.
10:25It was brutal. He uttered the line. Like it starts with me or whatever.
10:29He said that I want. That was the most throwaway nonsense.
10:32Like his whole attitude that entire time was skirting blame.
10:35It's top. Like it's, it's, it's other. I was appropriate in that game.
10:39Both teams should have won and didn't, couldn't do it on normal 99% chances to do it.
10:45So what, what should have happened? Obviously he should have thrown the ball away.
10:49If you watch the wide receivers, the four wide receivers on the field.
10:53Yeah. That's what the play call should have been.
10:56Play call should have just been spike the ball, kick the field goal.
11:00You don't have to worry about time on the clock.
11:03This is overtime. You don't need to get closer.
11:05You should take this. You just, you just kicked the ball.
11:09So Dan Quinn failed because it should have been spike the ball, take the field goal.
11:14But the call came in to run the clock down for no reason.
11:18It's overtime and throw the ball away. It was just crazy.
11:21And then he didn't throw the ball away. It was just like amateur hour.
11:25It was insane. He took a knee. Yeah. Which look, it made sense to me when I was watching because I assumed they had a timeout.
11:33Yeah. That was the first half. I know, but I'm saying it's Washington.
11:37It does happen. Yeah. It was with Washington. All right.
11:40Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league.
11:44Okay. We've got tons of it. Starting with the trade heard around the world with no destination.
11:49I'm never going back to the pants stores. Boy, that didn't work out, did it?
11:54No, it's working right now. He's gone. Oh boy.
11:57He's gone. You played that drop when we drafted him and you're playing it when he leaves.
12:02Wow. The Cardinals trade. Worst meeting changes over time.
12:05Has it been finalized yet this morning? I believe so.
12:08They awarded yesterday Marvin Harrison Jr. to the Texans.
12:10Cardinals do get, we didn't think it was possible, but they get a 20, 27 second and a sixth round pick.
12:17It was Texas get Marvin a seventh. It was rumored to be a 28 second from some team because this was the
12:24weirdest trade environment of all time where it's like, there's a trade.
12:27Yeah. We can't tell you. He's definitely traded. Where's he going?
12:31I think I know what happened. It seems like it's obvious and maybe you know something else.
12:36It seems like the Texans are like, we're going to do this if we win.
12:41Yes. It's the Titans. If they beat the Titans.
12:43Like, so we're going to win. It's the Titans.
12:46But let's hold off just in case. Just because if we go in five.
12:50Yeah. This was so Marv is gone and the Cardinals look at some point.
12:55This is let's translate this into fantasy football. At some point in time we do.
12:59We do dynasty drafts rookie drafts all the time and you make a pick and you make a selection like Royce Freeman, Mike.
13:06And yeah, you make a pick like that third round.
13:09A stud. And everybody. The Denver Broncos. Look, draft capital is proportionate to potential.
13:14That is the way the NFL and fantasy players are going to look at it.
13:18And you will always for a time being believe that a player is going to have the potential to fulfill their draft capital.
13:25Corey Davis will have the potential to fulfill his draft capital.
13:29It became a Justin Blackman. It took him five years.
13:32And Blackman didn't. But, but, but you basically that's baked into Marv.
13:36Now you need one team after three and a half years to believe that they're the fix for the player.
13:42That's not separating, not getting targets, not delivering, not catching the football, looking, lazy, looking lazy, not caring.
13:47Now, some people say he sandbagged the first four games on purpose.
13:51This is a plan with his dad to get out of Arizona, which by the way, that would be a great, great plan for all players.
13:59If you want to sandbag and get out of Arizona, I don't blame you.
14:03The Cardinals. Oh, but if you did do that, Marv, if you did that, great job.
14:08Yes. You looked terrible. Yeah. I mean, you, you sand, you were convincing.
14:12You know what I mean? You are one of the best sandbaggers of all time.
14:17Now I would have thought maybe you'd try to catch the ball the previous three years when it's targeted at you or
14:23like a tough catch to win a game, whatever.
14:26So in my opinion, Marv is actually unredeemable as a superstar.
14:30I don't think he can do it. I completely agree.
14:33As a superstar, there is no chance that the team did look, the Cardinals are a terrible organization and we have ruined
14:39plenty of, of human beings by drafting them before he's out of town and has an opportunity to really revamp his career, has an opportunity to be better.
14:48He's going to care more. He's going to be with his collegiate quarterback.
14:52Yeah. He's, he's paired with his, with CJ Stroud, who, you know, he played with in college.
14:57And, and so part of it was, was genuinely effort and it was mental.
15:02The town hated Marv. He was in his head.
15:04He's a, you know, a weak little Meowvin Harrison.
15:07He has an opportunity to go out and show what he was in college, which was legitimately great.
15:13His route running in college is a production in college.
15:16A can't miss pick is what he was supposed to be.
15:19And he's, he is absolutely not good enough to get it done.
15:23Now here's the thing. I am very interested in CJ Stroud rest of season because Marv will help the passing game there.
15:29They have no running game to speak of. Zero.
15:32David Montgomery is now hurt. It might get better.
15:35It could get better, but I think they're going to want, you know, just put five wide and CJ Stroud's going to
15:42run this offense, which he's been capable of doing this year so far.
15:46It's just wild. The Cardinals getting a second out of it.
15:49Congratulations. Second from an Owen for team, I guess one and four at that.
15:53That's true. That's true. Which is also who we, Del is, you know, his practice window has opened up.
15:59So yeah, they're going to try to open it up.
16:02Honest to goodness. CJ Stroud has looked pretty good this year.
16:06Oh yeah. Ironic considering their own for, I would have thought if CJ Stroud can just figure it out.
16:12This could be a Super Bowl contending team. And CJ Stroud figured it out in their own for, or they were the defense.
16:19D'Amico Ryan's taking over the defense. Play calling shut everything down yesterday.
16:22In every single dynasty league in the world. He's getting Cam Warden out.
16:26Let's get another week under the belt. In every single dynasty league in the world, the question is being had by everyone in the league.
16:34Should I try to trade for Marvin Harrison? Or if you have him, should I be trying to trade Marvin Harrison away?
16:41This could be a sell window for him. Could.
16:43And it is. I don't think you're going to get superstardom.
16:47Nico is, I mean, infinitely better than he is.
16:50But you're going to get targets. This is what I was talking to you, Jason.
16:54We were talking on when we were golfing a beautiful golf course.
16:58Uh, that 44 over. Uh, dude, congratulations. Thank you.
17:01Thank you. But we were talking about the fact that like, if you just targeted Marv 10 times a game in Arizona,
17:07you're going to have, he's going to look a lot more like a good receiver.
17:12The numbers are going to be okay. He's going to get targets in Houston.
17:16That's going to happen. Whether he's worth anything in fantasy.
17:19Uh, next to Nico Collins and stuff. I don't know.
17:22He will never be to the level of a T Higgins.
17:26T Higgins is what I'm saying because that's like, he's the second wide receiver on the team.
17:31It feels very good. That's the goal. The goal is, Hey, we've got our T Higgins to our Jamar chase and he should go out there.
17:39He should catch a ton of touchdowns, which to be fair is the one thing Marvin Harrison has done so far in his career.
17:46He's got plenty of touchdowns. So I think they're hoping to get T Higgins.
17:51You didn't. Yeah. CJ Stroud has three top 12 performances already this year.
17:55That matches the total from last year. He's looked good.
17:58Adding Harrison does not hurt him. Nope. So the big news for, you know, despite week one being not that great.
18:04This is a Michael Wilson like for fantasy football.
18:07You know, this is great for Michael Wilson and everybody that's like, oh man, I guess he needed Marv on the field because Marv was off the field.
18:16It was a joke. We had a great, it was a joke.
18:19We had a great tweet of like, here's Michael Wilson without Marv on the field.
18:24And it was a picture of Marv. There's problems in Arizona though.
18:28And we know this. Yeah. One of the problems is you're going to have a transition to Carson back soon, two and 15.
18:35That's Jacoby Brissett's record as a Cardinal quarterback. He looks amazing on scripted first drives.
18:39Looks like he looks cheeks for the middle two quarters.
18:42And then when the other, when the defense moves to prevent, you gather a bunch of garbage time.
18:48Yeah. That's all it is. I mean, if you look at his fourth quarter stats, he's amazing.
18:53It is not because he's so clutch. He's got ice in his veins as a fourth quarter guy.
18:59Six scores. It's because the other team stopped playing.
19:01He's playing against backups or prevent. It's buns. The Cardinals are now moving to the, we grew up in Arizona and they're
19:08now moving to the level that they were when I grew up, which is Garrison Hurst, Thomas Jones, players we drafted that
19:15were absolute booty here left to have near hall of fame careers.
19:19They are a disgrace. And you know, it's a gift for us in Arizona for them to make headlines because then we
19:25get to talk about how horrible ownership is. And this team now we get to see how we ruined Jeremiah love, which it seems like we're doing.
19:34All right. All signs point towards Caleb Williams returning in week six as quarterback of the bears.
19:39That's probably good. He looked good in, in like pregame warmups.
19:42Uh, DJ more. Yeah. Is questionable with the shoulder for tonight's game, Monday night football.
19:47Josh Palmer ruled out. I imagine DJ more is actually going to go in this one, but he's always at a re injury risk and leaving early risk.
19:55Yeah. I, if you had DJ more and Keon Coleman, who are you starting tonight?
20:00That's a great question. I actually think if, if DJ more is active, I would still start him.
20:06DJ more. I would. I think I'm on the other side.
20:09That's fine. Yeah. I don't blame you. I feel like.
20:12If you needed five points guaranteed, I'd start Keon Coleman.
20:15Yeah. Yeah. But if you needed 25, I might try DJ more out.
20:19Yeah. It's really tough. I mean, DJ more, he's played through this injury, right?
20:23He got injured. Here's what's funny. He got injured in week two, came back in week three, right off the bat, 10
20:30targets, six for 67, had a very good game and then got injured last week.
20:35So it's either you can get 10 targets or he can re aggravate and Keon Coleman.
20:40Yeah. It's not an easy one to know. Cause we just don't know how, you know, severe it is.
20:45Let's take a quick break and get into more news.
20:48Injuries were the story going into the week. A bunch of tough situations where guys were coming back from injury, playing through injury.
20:56Ashton Gentty being one of them that didn't work out.
20:59Trey beyond Henderson left early with a right ankle injury did not return.
21:03Dude. We started this game thinking it was going to be him with no Ramondre and then Ramondre is active and he got hurt.
21:10And Ramondre scored before he got hurt. It is annoying.
21:13Um, David Montgomery left early with a groin injury.
21:16They said he's going to miss multiple weeks. Butterfly stretch, man.
21:19Uh, Will Shipley left early with a foot injury multiple weeks due to a partial tear of his plantar fascia.
21:25That's painful. Will Shipley. Uh, he's gone. Damien Pierce is now the sole running back.
21:30Yes, he is. Um, that team has been devastated.
21:33Oh, they lost off at that game. The, there were three games this week that seemed like they were over for the
21:39other team that, I mean, giving up a monster kick return to my guy.
21:44It was an abdulla was a mirror of do express that guy's career just keeps going.
21:49I know it's unbelievable. He settled into what he is.
21:52Yeah. The commentators in that game literally were talking about, I, I, the Eagles victory.
21:56They were talking about what this is means for the rest of the season for the Eagles.
22:02How the morale of the team that has been so bad now is, is uplifted.
22:06They came, they battled through, they got a W whatever.
22:09Their morale was not uplifted. And their head coach is my fault.
22:13That's what he said. And it was. Will Shipley.
22:16They'll miss in time. Uh, Roman Wilson expected to miss a couple of weeks after leaving early with a finger injury.
22:22If you look at the box score, a couple of things for Pittsburgh.
22:26One Rogers is playing great. He is playing great football to DK Metcalf sucks.
22:30Yeah, he does. Three bad football. Pittman and Wilson are gone as is.
22:34It's chronic. Yeah. So listen, Jeremy Bernard is going to hurt me.
22:38He's going to be a huge pickup this week.
22:41I already picked him up in a couple of weeks as I just, I didn't believe necessarily that the Roman Wilson 30%
22:48snap count would be the most repeatable situation. The Muth got super Luth.
22:52Yeah. Also viable when more of these guys go down.
22:55Rogers is a, he's a trust man. You listen to him talk about Jalen Warren yesterday.
23:00If you would like to hear him say something.
23:02I would trust Jalen Warren as well. If you want to talk.
23:06He's very good. Rogers is not the most positive dude.
23:09But if you want to hear him like say nice things about somebody, go listen to him talk about Jalen Warren for 10 minutes.
23:16Also, he's not playing that great. I know. He's playing wonderful.
23:20He is not. No, I've watched these games. He's looked great.
23:23I thought he's looked very good. He is looked okay.
23:26But like this last week, he had 235 yards and three touchdowns.
23:30That's amazing for fantasy. That's great. But like he had an 80 yard dump off screen that Jalen Warren took to the house.
23:37Three weeks in a row with three touchdowns. I get it.
23:40I just feel like quarterback for three weeks. He's playing great.
23:44I've watched these games. All right. 71% completion yesterday.
23:47He plays against Tampa Bay this week. Great matchup.
23:49Are you starting Aaron Rogers, Andy? And let's find out on that one.
23:53I started him this week in a league and one because.
23:57Congratulations. Am I starting him in Tampa Bay after Tampa's defense played the way they did last week?
24:02No, I'm going to find somebody other than Aaron Rogers.
24:05But what I do in the future is not what he's done in the last three weeks, which is play great.
24:12I mean, you're talking about a 4,651 touchdown season over the last three weeks.
24:16I think that's pretty good. Yeah, I completely agree that his results have been awesome.
24:21I mean, he hadn't thrown for that many yards.
24:23I mean, he hadn't thrown for that many yards in like five years, Jay, and he's thrown for that many yards.
24:30He hasn't thrown for that many yards in three straight weeks.
24:33Yeah. You're basically holding a dump off against him.
24:36I remember watching. Like he can't accumulate yards and touchdowns the rest of that drive.
24:41I just, if he doesn't run down the field.
24:43As I watched that game, I remember turning to Mike and being like, man, people are going to like.
24:49So you wanted to stand up against him? It was just, I think that how some of this is happening is, I
24:56mean, hey, if it happens every week, great. I'm just not going to, I'm not going to buy into it continuing.
25:02He has looked much better than last year. That's true.
25:06They're going down the field. They're actually attacking. And that could be a McCarthy change.
25:10I would not have started and played him in a league ever last year under any circumstance.
25:15And he was a spot start for me this week.
25:18And it worked out. Quinshawn Judkins was seen in a boot.
25:22Yeah. With his right ankle. Not good. So we're going to be talking big time.
25:26We're going to be talking big time waiver pickups.
25:29And that was the ankle that was the massive injury last year.
25:33I don't, I don't know if that has an effect on it.
25:37Like, you know, a re-aggravation, but sucks that it's that one.
25:40Yeah. Casey Concepcion, brutal hit left with a concussion.
25:43Debo left with a hamstring. The weirdest injury. It looked like it was a concussion.
25:47The way he let go of the ball on the way to the ground.
25:52I didn't know it was a hamstring. Genuinely, it didn't seem like a hamstring.
25:56It didn't seem like he didn't reach for anything.
25:59It looked like he got hit with a, with a sleeping dart.
26:02Yeah. That you couldn't see. And he just. Maybe hamstrings hurt more now.
26:06Exactly. Three darts too much. Trey Harris. The, uh.
26:09Dude. The last remaining wide receiver for the Chargers.
26:12His. Went down with a hamstring and was almost uninvolved before that.
26:16It was a lot of like Gadsden and the running backs.
26:19And I mean, I am the shame this week.
26:22And part of that is because my green goblin was that.
26:25Justin Herbert in a game that I knew he'd have to pass a bunch.
26:29Would throw for 149 yards. He was under a hundred.
26:32Insane. I'm not sure if that's where he finished.
26:35No. He might've been 105. 121. Okay. Yeah. The last drive.
26:39Their next four games are on the road against the chiefs on the road against the Rams at home against my gosh, the Texans.
26:46And then on the road against Baltimore at these best, they could win one of those four games.
26:51So you at best would be one and eight.
26:54Correct. I mean, I don't think our body is going to stick around.
26:58I think he's going to melt into the concrete.
27:01He can't handle losing like this. TG Hawkinson concussion.
27:04Kenyon Sadiq concussion. Michael Pinnock's left with a rib injury.
27:07And they left. I'm laughing at the rib injury laughing at the fact that two of comes in for like, what, two
27:14plays and throws a, a just disgusting game ending interception.
27:17Unsurprisingly. I mean, it was impressive. It's very, very unserious.
27:20What we all knew was coming. Yeah. And you saw the face that was on the sideline of Michael Pennix as he's
27:26walking onto the field with the game ending. And it was the same face that he had right behind him on the sideline early in the preseason.
27:35This guy's not a pro quarterback. Oh, can we talk about some studs?
27:39Yes, please. This week's fantasy stud muffins. We're back.
27:41I guess we're good. Hey, we figured it out.
27:44He's so good. They're also three and two now.
27:47Uh, Drake may 39.5 fantasy points, which this is, which, how do you feel about this?
27:52Al you dropped him two weeks ago. You feel good?
27:55What did I say when I dropped him? That he's going to have a real career resurgence.
28:00Somebody can pick him up now. Cause he's about to blow up.
28:04Who's your quarterback now? Uh, Jordan love at the moment.
28:07Oh, that worked out. Yeah. Jayden Daniels, Jared Goff, Jamis Winston, Jordan love.
28:11We need good quarterback play. It's, it's kind of fun to, to dunk on the guy who was so great last year.
28:18You're like, well, I was just, just, we need Drake may to be good.
28:22So this was, this was a, a few. Yeah.
28:25Wipe the sweat off your forehead. Like, thank goodness.
28:28Demario Douglas had two touchdowns from him. You know, you don't have Matt Collins right now.
28:32Now Dobbs didn't, didn't get it done. Cause my dude Kyle Williams.
28:36Yeah. AJ Brown. I think we'll, he'll be so good in this offense, but we're still weeks away.
28:42They've got two games quick. I think in the next like 10 days.
28:46And so he won't be a part of either of those.
28:49He might be back after that though. Yes. I agree.
28:52And I think the second half of the season will be good for him.
28:56That's a trade for target. Uh, Jayden Daniels got it done with the rushing yard.
29:01He's nine for one Oh three. Honestly, I didn't think he looked, I thought he looked okay as a passer, but I
29:08thought the rushing totals, man, if you get anything like that, that's my, my, uh, price picks line was 30 and a half.
29:15I tripped. I would, and Mike and I were both like, like all the conversation, he's coming back and he's got a brace on the elbow.
29:23The doctors out there saying, it's not a matter of if it's when he re injures the elbow.
29:28Yeah. And then they came out and said, we're going to protect him and he's not going to run the football.
29:35So when you made that pick, I Mike and I were like, thank you.
29:39Spoiler alert. We were super wrong. When Jackson dark comes back, he's going to run.
29:44Yeah. Because it's just, that's, that is who they are.
29:47Jared golf had two 71 and three with a rushing touchdown.
29:50Jason star of the week. And he could have had as many as he wanted.
29:55Yeah. The Cardinals are so unbelievably bad at the events.
29:58I was thinking about this on the drive in.
30:01How great would it be if you spent your entire life, you are an offensive player.
30:05It doesn't matter if you're skilled position, you're an offensive lineman, whatever.
30:09And you get to the NFL and then you get to have a day against the Cardinals.
30:14You just get to play against like a JV team.
30:17That's what you were thinking about on the way in?
30:21Yeah. I was like, that'd be so fun. I get to play against a JV team that can't possibly stop anything we do.
30:28They have two good defensive players and one went down in this game.
30:32Arvel Reese. Oh, oh no. We got a running back.
30:35That's right. Okay. That's right. That's who we try.
30:37We get, we can't talk about the Cardinals anymore.
30:40Winston was hilarious because Winston played maybe the worst first half of football I've ever seen.
30:45I mean, just abysmal. And then he ends up with three 26 and three and targets Malik neighbors 20 times.
30:51So amazing. Jordan love was pretty much perfect. Unbelievable.
30:54And I'll tell you what I'm, I'm, I said this to Mike watching this game.
30:59I feel like the, they figured it out. The rest of the league needs to watch this game and be like, Oh, okay.
31:06So just throw it deep. Every single play against the bears.
31:09Like the bears defense has looked really good the last couple of weeks.
31:13Apparently they found their weakness and that's all he did.
31:16It was just, I kept joking after bomb had it like a 49 yard.
31:20I kept joking. This was beforehand. So the joke kept working great watching the game.
31:25I was like, every time Jordan love drops back, he just goes, Hey, check this out.
31:30And then he just kept doing it. Watch this.
31:33Hey, check this out. Boom. All the way down.
31:35I mean, it was just like, and they didn't always work, but it was like, I feel like he had 10 shots in a row.
31:43There was like, Hey, check this out. 40 yards.
31:46It's not that different from what Joe Burrow has success doing, which is if you have really good wide receivers like Christian
31:53Watson and Matthew golden, who high point balls and come down with contested catches like T Higgins and Jamar Chase.
31:59If you chuck it, it works out a lot.
32:02What do you get it? They don't have a lot of defenders down there.
32:06They've got one or two defenders down there. It just, it was a great game.
32:10Really awesome. He looks so good. And I will say this, they're awesome.
32:14And Lloyd. Yeah. Mike and I were like, you, you gotta think about it.
32:19Boomstick. Their offensive line looked significantly better, which coincides with they made transactions, right?
32:23They added more people off the street to their roster.
32:26They have tried to revamp this offensive line. It looked better.
32:30I think the passing game for Jordan love and, and, and the Packers is it's getting me hot and bothered.
32:36Well, and look, I, it's going to be a slow burn, but Tucker Kraft's going to get better and better and better.
32:42He had a big play down the field finally, but coming back from an injury, man, you need some weeks.
32:49It was fun to watch. We get Dallas, Detroit, Carolina.
32:52Hey, check this out. Dude, that's all he's going to do next week.
32:56It's going to be so much fun. Oh, Jack, check this out.
32:59Oh man. Hey, look, it's going to fish like a 22 yards per attempt.
33:04Yeah. He was so good. Um, to copy Brissette.
33:06If you are a quarterback facing the lions, he was trying to ride with the stinkiest.
33:11Oh yeah. Oh, he was so bad. Cardinals. Well, this is the problem I have with the Michael Wilson McBride, any of
33:18that Carson back will become the starter at some point.
33:21Yeah, he will. And Carson back might be a better quarterback at some point than Brissette, but he's not going to throw for as many yards, touchdowns.
33:29They're going to do something more. Um, but how to, how slash why would they not start him next week?
33:36Well, the quote from LaFleur. I don't, I don't understand.
33:39And I do actually get this. I do get this.
33:42What is the downside at this point? Nothing. You get to figure out if you have a quarterback.
33:47The season is toast. No. So here it's toast.
33:50Here's lying to themselves. If they were like, we're going to, we're going to battle back in the NFC West.
33:56The actual truth is you have a first time brand new head coach.
34:00His entire world is trying to win. He is not playing for a future of a Cardinals franchise three years from now.
34:07Yes, he is. Well, of course he got a huge deal.
34:10A long term deal. I'm not saying he's, he doesn't care about the Cardinals three years from now.
34:16He is, he wants to win. He is disgusted with how they're playing.
34:20His goal is to win right now. And at the podium, what he talked about was he said, I have too many things to fix, to worry.
34:28Like Jacoby Brissett isn't one of them. He's got to fix a defense.
34:32That's idiotic though. That's stupid. I agree. He's got to fix so many other things.
34:37Yeah, he does. But he thinks Jacoby Brissett is not the problem.
34:40He is. He's part of it. Everything is the problem.
34:43Yeah, I know. But look, play your quarterbacks against the Lions.
34:47That's the headline here. Brissett QB six. Bryce Young was QB five against him.
34:51Gino is QB three. He hasn't looked like a QB three against anybody else.
34:55Josh Allen was QB one. Shuck was QB four.
34:58Play against the Lions. That's Stafford, Knicks, Dak the next three weeks.
35:02I'm not playing Bo Nicks. I will. I will absolutely.
35:05Oh, sorry. That's the Cardinals schedule. Oh, yeah. Bo Nicks does play against him in two weeks.
35:10Okay. Right. Rogers. Oh, look at Rogers and its studs.
35:13Three weeks in a row with 22 fantasy points.
35:16He only did that three times all of last year.
35:19Trevor Lawrence. Only because of his stats though. Only due to his stats.
35:23Only the outcome of the stats. Yeah. Okay. That's a good point.
35:27When you get the ball around the goal line, it could throw a goal line touchdown and you can throw a screen for 80 yards.
35:34You're really good. Wait. Did you just say throwing a goal line touchdown as a bad thing?
35:40I'm just saying he. This is so weird, Jason.
35:42I'm going to go rewatch the tape. I'm going to go rewatch the tape.
35:47I mean, if you three weeks, three touchdowns a week playing good football.
35:51Malik Willis ends up on this list because the bangles decided to give up two garbage town time touchdowns and a bunch
35:57of rushing yards to him at the end of the game.
36:01But they're, they were also great defense to play.
36:04Dude. Target Miami every week. We were looking at the Cardinal schedule, talking about target the lions.
36:09Now I'm looking at the lion schedule. So we can actually know who they're playing.
36:13Yeah. They go to buy, unfortunately. But then after that, it's the Packers.
36:17You tell me Jordan love gets deck. And then check this out.
36:21Yeah. That's awesome. Uh, the running backs, uh, he deserves a break.
36:25Doesn't he? Jameer Gibbs. Uh, and he got stuffed on the goal line twice and lost the touchdown.
36:3035.2 fantasy points. They go to buy. He is on stop.
36:34He did say he wants to, he has the most touchdowns before 25 years old in NFL history.
36:39He says he wants to break. LT's record. The LT 32 touchdown record.
36:43I personally want him to break that. Um, you find that funny back there out.
36:48Yeah. Bijan Robinson. I just love the guy. He's just for the man for the dude.
36:53Bijan Robinson is the best running back in the NFL.
36:56I believe he looks outstanding and unfathomably good. He's been so good for, for fantasy football.
37:01And it, it's not close between him and Gibbs.
37:03It's not even like, like Gibbs for fantasy is doing what LT like for those of us old enough who've played fantasy
37:10long enough to remember the LT year or years.
37:13Uh, that's what, that's where we are with Gibbs.
37:16Um, Jalen Warren was number two on the week was unstoppable.
37:19Bucky Irving number three on the week. Nice. Love that guy.
37:22Derek Henry, 20 fantasy points. Snuck in with their receiving touch.
37:26And Braylon Allen with 18.1, a late touchdown, brought it over the top.
37:30Um, like I said, the lions go into the bi-week Jalen Warren though has turned into a monster and, uh, there's no,
37:37you know, I know Rico got hurt. We are now at the point of, of confidence with Aaron Rogers loving Jalen Warren.
37:43He's been slippery. He never goes down on the first touch, which it, the, the Rico news is they said he was very close to playing this week.
37:52So I would fully expect him back. It should just stay the Jalen Warren.
37:56It should, it should six for I, but it's not going to, I don't know.
38:01You don't think it's going to, I think that the coach is going to want to involve Rico.
38:06I completely am on the other side. I told Mike, I don't know, three quarters of the way through.
38:12Obviously we watched very different games here for the Steelers, but I, I was just like, Jason did.
38:18I did. He had a filter on his TV.
38:20I, uh, I was like Jalen Warren feels like that guy where everyone who has him in, in leagues every year this
38:27happens, like you're undefeated or you're one of the best in the leagues.
38:31You're one of the highest scoring teams. Cause you had an unexpected fantasy superstar and you're going to make the playoffs.
38:38And then he's not going to be what he was now at that point.
38:42I mean, that's look, I agree. The fact he won't get 97% of snaps.
38:46That's not going to happen. He, I mean, he should, he's so doggone good.
38:51He will get, he'll get, he'll get the majority.
38:53That 80 yard reception is like, Oh, that's cool for Aaron Rodgers.
38:57He also had 101 rushing. It's like every four or five plays.
39:01He's just, no one tackles him and he breaks out of the pile and runs slippery, man.
39:06So good. But I do think when like, I guess my point is if, and, and you know, obviously Andy, you would
39:13be on the other side based on how good he's been.
39:16And, and if he gets the work, you should be on the other side.
39:20To me, I feel like he's a trade high candidate.
39:23If I can actually maximize, if I can get someone who's like, I need a superstar running back.
39:29Cause that's what he has looked like recently. I would try to capitalize.
39:33I think part of it is the fact that like if Rico had been playing well in his two games, I would,
39:40I would be of a different opinion. He was like to carry.
39:43Yeah. I mean, he was garbage. Uh, but wasn't Warren bad during the time that like, yeah, neither of them was getting it done.
39:51Um, Aaron Jones, Ramond Ray, CMC, Swift, Marshawn Lloyd with the two touchdowns.
39:55If you could unload Marshawn Lloyd on two touchdowns, that could be a moment for you.
40:00The CMC utilization was obnoxious. He pretty much like, it was very low.
40:04So almost all his work, all his fancy production was first half.
40:07And like he was 11, he had 11 carries.
40:10He had a rushing touchdown. Then he had three targets.
40:13And this was a team that they were, they were losing wide receivers on basically every single play.
40:19And McCaffrey only got three targets. I was, it was really weird.
40:22Um, yeah, yeah, it was Deandre Swift, only 43 rushing yards.
40:26They were not in a position to run the football at all.
40:29They were down and down big. We'll take another quick break and jump into whiteouts.
40:34Christian Watson. Oh, that guy. Parker Washington, Malik neighbors, George Pickens, Mike Evans, your top five at the position this week's eight
40:41targets, six for one 43 and two for Watson.
40:44He has been a reliable deep ball player for his entire career.
40:47And now he's healthy. And he also had one of the catches of the week.
40:52I mean, the one of his bomb touchdowns, which he had to was incredible.
40:56I, I, I didn't really even understand like watching it live.
41:00I was like, wait, how did, where did the ball go?
41:03He just mossed the guy, went over, caught it off of his back.
41:07And, uh, he's, he's been fantastic. The upcoming schedule, as we just, uh, said for Jordan love, we're feeling Dallas and Detroit.
41:14I mean, literally those are number one and number two in whichever order you want of teams you'd like want to face.
41:20Right. Well, in what's crazy is so Watson is continuing his barrage of touchdowns.
41:25He has two top 10 finishes in the last three weeks.
41:28You know who else does Matthew golden. Yeah. Two top 10 finishes.
41:32Golden's on pace for 81 for 1350 and seven.
41:35Yeah. He's just hiding in the shadow of Watson doing pretty much the same.
41:39He's doing the same stuff. He's just not catching the touchdowns.
41:42Yeah. Which is, I think that's how it will be.
41:45It's a big part of it. Yeah. Uh, I mean, Christian Watson scored in all but one game this year, but, uh,
41:52both those guys have been, I mean, look, the consolidation of targets.
41:56And like I said, craft was involved again. It's looking good for the receivers there and the matchups coming up.
42:02Parker Washington made two incredible quite catches in this game.
42:05The last one was unbelievable. Six for one, 24 and two.
42:08You love to see it. And then 20 targets from a league neighbor.
42:12Oh, that's what it's only 11 catches cause it's Winston.
42:15That's all right. But, uh, 11 for one, 21 and one, he still has the second most, the last two weeks neighbors
42:22first in routes run, first in targets, first in receiving yards, second in receptions and second in receiving touchdowns.
42:28So he's, he was sore. Uh, and you know, we were worried about it, but seems like he's okay.
42:34Yeah. That, that was a game where at one point I was pretty sure they were going to pull Winston.
42:40Like he was playing so poorly. I was like, we're going to see JJ.
42:44Well, they kept pulling Winston for a play at a time.
42:48It was so weird, dude. What is their plan?
42:50I see. What is there? The plan? Get that deck cards.
42:54Cause it's Matt and Maggie. Okay. He, you are right.
42:57Yeah. Oh, let's bring in. Let's bring in nine.
43:00We're going to trade. We're going to try. We need some quarterback help.
43:04Let's go get JJ McCarthy. We'll be the night.
43:06Let's go get. Yes. He was sitting in the rain.
43:09Uh, cause he knew what was about to happen to him.
43:13With a hoodie on. He, so they trade for a project quarterback and then their plan.
43:18Well, they got to get him work is we're going to get him in and we're just going to run trick plays
43:24with him where he's running the ball so he can get exploded.
43:28Yeah. Your backup quarterback. This is your plan. They don't want to explode their starter.
43:33I mean, that makes sense. What are you doing?
43:36Matt and Maggie is a joke, but it's fun right now that the, that the giants can.
43:41Listen, listen, Sirianni, Dan Quinn, Matt and Maggie. Yeah.
43:43These guys are not that much smarter than us.
43:46No, I, to be a coach, to be a coach.
43:49You just have to put on the uniform. You just have to like, that's such a disrespectful thing to the good coaches, but the bad ones.
43:57Yeah. The bad ones. They make mistakes too. The bad ones just keep getting jobs.
44:02I would have spiked that ball. That's all I'm saying.
44:05For sure. Jaden, I would have spiked that ball.
44:08Yeah. Because the clock was running out. You see?
44:11Put the Madden kid in. I know. Good Lord, people.
44:14It's the Madden kid would be dominant in late game situations.
44:17We know how to manage a clock. Man, Dan Quinn's reaction to the video.
44:21Slamming the headset. Taking his headset off and slamming it to the ground was delicious.
44:26It just, I mean, it really, really was not his fault.
44:29It was not Dan Quinn's fault. I mean, yeah.
44:32Yeah. It is. It was partially his fault. It's definitely his fault.
44:36You call in a spike. The play is a spike.
44:39But he's not the play caller. He's not even an offensive guy.
44:42Like, you are the head coach. Yeah. You're 100% responsible.
44:46You can always override your offense. You're on the headset.
44:49You can be like, spike it here. Yeah. Of course you can.
44:52But at the same time, you don't in that situation assume that you would need to say that to an offensive coordinator in the NFL.
45:00You don't need to go like, hey, hey, hey, hey, make sure you snap the ball and spike it.
45:06Like, of course. Like, I don't know, man. Mike Evans was awesome again.
45:10Seven for one, 13 and one and always hurt.
45:13Also had the funniest moment of all time when he checked the back of Diggs jersey.
45:17Oh, man. Which was amazing. Awesome. But every time he would catch the ball and stand up, his face was like, this man is in agony.
45:25If you play, just play him. Demario Douglas, two touchdowns for the Patriots.
45:29Kyle Williams. Two wide open. Three for 91 and one.
45:33I had to pivot off of the Marv prize picks.
45:36Kyle Williams was like, I was typing it in as my pivot.
45:39And I switched it to like a stupid Bo Melton one.
45:43Yeah. And I should have stuck with Kyle Williams.
45:45JSN, great as always. Garrett Wilson. JMO, start of the week, baby.
45:49That felt real bad when he was like the Cardinals.
45:52It's funny. The Cardinals made the lines go three and out three consecutive times.
45:56It was the first time since 2016 or something.
45:59The Cardinals had any like stop somebody three straight times.
46:02And then it was all wheels up. JMO almost had a third one.
46:06Two touchdowns in this one. That was the story for him.
46:10Tied ends. Isaiah likely. Brock Bowers, who is unstoppable.
46:12Brock Bowers is going to be on so many championship rosters.
46:16It's hard to imagine. I guess the only real.
46:19He's great. The only real fear there is what happened at the end of that game, which you remember, right?
46:25I was not on the team, team Raiders this week.
46:28I did not think it was going to happen.
46:31And it didn't in a big way. Oh, Mendoza took over.
46:34And so later in the season, if things start to go sour for them, that's your risk with Bowers.
46:40But Friar Muth, I think he's a pickup because of the injuries on the wide receiver core for the Steelers.
46:46Tyler Warren was 18 points and Sam Laporta has been unbelievable.
46:49Laporta was my start of the week as well.
46:52But every week he is just, it's really hard to account for the Lions skill players, Amon Rod, Jamison Williams and Gibbs.
46:59And every week Laporta is just a play here, play there.
47:02Fakes a block, breaks into the wide open. I mean, did you realize this is the best, this is statistically the best
47:09offense through five weeks for the Lions in history.
47:12So the blobfish, now he got to play against his old team.
47:15Yeah. But putting up 45 against us, that helps.
47:18He probably was very happy. That helps. Congratulations. Yeah.
47:21All right. Trey McBride with the beastly touchdown at the end of the game.
47:25And Jason, who's the other guy from Arizona that scored twice?
47:29Oh, Teagan. What's the last name? Teagan. I don't know.
47:32I've never heard of this guy and no one, do you know it?
47:36Keeter, Keeteriano? Keeteriano? You should have looked into that.
47:38Yeah, I don't know. I was trying to, I figured Jason knew.
47:42No, I definitely know. All right. Let's talk about it.
47:45I just can't tell you. Yeah, just ask me tomorrow.
47:48I'll tell you later. Just out of curiosity, statistically, would you say he played well, that guy?
47:53Oh, yeah. Okay. Just making sure. All right, Duds.
47:56Hooped in his big boy pants. They're really, look, you knew.
48:00Shucked his pants. We knew this was. Well, you knew the matchup was bad, but there's a difference between bad matchup and scoring one fantasy point.
48:08Correct. And Tyler Shuck went 16 for 25 for 96.
48:11If you had Olave, it killed you. Jawanson, it killed you.
48:14Everybody, it killed you. No one should have been starting him, thankfully.
48:18I think most people didn't. We have been the most pro Shuck pot around and we.
48:23And Sunday Live, I was like, I am abandoning.
48:25Read that third bullet point we wrote under there.
48:28Yeah. So Shuck's pressure rate since losing their left tackle, 49% of 50%.
48:32Which is on no quarterback. No quarterback. No, no one is good enough.
48:36Tom Brady will not survive this. No. But this was also the Minnesota Vikings defense.
48:41And I, I saw a stat. So it's so funny to me.
48:44And, and obviously we aren't as smart as these guys in charge.
48:48So Brian, Brian Flores, his defense has been unbelievable.
48:51He's, he's blitzing on over 70% of plays, which is outrageously high.
48:55Number one in the NFL this week, it, there was a point in the game where he was blitzing on over 90% of plays.
49:02And it got me thinking. What? What about a hundred percent?
49:05Why don't we just blitz more NFL? Like I know I get like drew breeze going to beat the blitz, but it's
49:12like, okay, but we're talking all about Brian Flores, his defense is like, what a mastermind.
49:17What I'm at is like, he's just, he's just blitzing.
49:20Well, there's a lot to it. Like the DBs.
49:23You have to have clamp DBs, but Murphy's amazing.
49:26You have, you also have to like the blitzes come out of confusing coverages.
49:30If you watch that game, there are multiple plays where guys are handing players off.
49:34You don't know who's coming. He, he, that's his, his defense is confusion.
49:38He confuses young quarterbacks, old quarterbacks, all of them, but a young quarterback, especially doesn't, they've never seen this before.
49:45And so, yeah, he's just masterful. He's probably the best assistant out there right now.
49:49It's my favorite team. My favorite team to be on by is Minnesota.
49:53Because you don't want it to affect the fantasy play.
49:56It just ruins fantasy. The Vikings are absolute shutdown.
49:59Yeah. That's, that's a fair point. It ruins everything.
50:02Dak, uh, first bad game for Brock Purdy after he took the lead for MVP voting, um, through, through an ugly pick
50:09in this one, two touchdowns, only 189 yards. Um, so yeah, I, you know, Dak was, Dak was fine.
50:14He just had the two picks. Bo Nix. I whiffed on that one.
50:18I thought it would be good against LA. He was not good.
50:22It's not Jason. You made this comment. Like maybe it wasn't Davis web problem.
50:26Maybe it's not play calling. Yeah. It seems like it's a Bo Nix problem.
50:31He's looked flat out terrible. He's playing against Seattle this, this week.
50:34Gross. I feel like both of the Broncos and the chargers, like I'm just done.
50:39Yeah. Projecting any sort of success. This is why I have been like, I have not been having in Waddle because they
50:46will have what's going to happen any week. They will definitely have games where you're like, Oh, that was the jail and Waddle week.
50:53That was sweet. I hope you played him that week.
50:56I'm for those two rosters. I'm just like, Hmm.
50:59So through through, I'm going to just, I don't care.
51:02I'm not going to play those guys through five weeks.
51:05Jalen Waddle is the wider CBER 36. He's been started.
51:08Well, basically one week he is getting forgiven. Like Herbert is just completely, I mean, he's broken.
51:13The charges are broken. Everyone is done with them.
51:16I don't think people are done with the Broncos yet, but they are just as bad on offense.
51:22They're getting, they're being forgiven because they're three and two.
51:25They're winning games. The only losses that they have is against the 49ers and the, and the chiefs both on the road.
51:31Like you hear the petition the league is doing.
51:34They're actually considering removing all victories against the chargers for all teams.
51:38That would be freaking awesome for us. Cardinal fans.
51:41Yeah. That's how bad, that's how bad the chargers are.
51:44The Cardinals beat you handedly, like beat the crap out of you.
51:47Running back duds, Chase Brown. Yeah. Yeah. Jeremiah love 12 for 22 looked awful.
51:52Tyler Algier didn't help at all. Cam Scadaboo looked awful until about three plays of overtime.
51:57That's kind of a weird, scary one as well.
51:59I don't know if it's coming off of injury.
52:02Um, those three plays look great. He was late in the game.
52:06This is a rainy game where they talked about like the, the, the, before the game, it was, so he's going to
52:13get a ton of workload and I don't know what happened.
52:16Um, obviously he fumbled at the end, but he wasn't pre they didn't know that was going to happen.
52:22It seemed like he was benched or injured or something.
52:25I kept asking Mike. I was searching social media.
52:28We were searching and searching. He didn't play forever.
52:30And, and then you see his, uh, John Daigle posting the RB share since Najee's was active.
52:36I haven't seen it gone from 70% to 66 to 57.
52:39So it's gone down every week. It was wild.
52:42I, I, when he got back in the game, I was like, Oh no, because the hope was he was injured because
52:49otherwise they were choosing to not use him. He basically won them the game, then lost them the game.
52:54Yeah. Because the fumble is going to come back.
52:57I mean, that is not a good look. Um, Camara was terrible.
53:01Omari and Hampton 14 for 33. The highlight play of that game was Kamani Vidal.
53:05Hampton was Hampton was actually bad. He was bad.
53:08The utilization is worse. I can, you, you can point to the 14 carries and be like, okay, well, he led the
53:15team in He led the team in rushing attempts by a good margin, but snap wise, utilization wise, he is.
53:21I mean, I said it last week. Yeah, this is not going.
53:25This three-way timeshares not going away. At least while McDaniel still has a job.
53:29Well, it's leading them to lots of, oh, wait.
53:32Yeah, it's not working. It's funny though. Because you can't really, I was going to say, you can't really argue for Hampton on a 14 for 33 week.
53:40No. R.J. Harvey, Mike. Oh, man. You finally got in.
53:43I abandoned my boy. You did, Dobbins. I abandoned my son.
53:47Dobbins. This is the first time he did your life.
53:50This is why you hate the Broncos. You have been so pro.
53:54I abandoned my boy. So pro Dobbins. My boy.
53:56And no one on planet Earth has been more anti-R.J.
53:59Harvey than you. And I waved the flag. I said, fine.
54:03This is what we're doing. Fine. And he got one target.
54:06After 10. And he went from 10 targets to one target.
54:10I'm done with this. Seven rushing attempts to three rushing attempts.
54:13I will support J.K. Dobbins in the shadows. Yes.
54:16Just believe I always love him. Chris Olave, four for 46.
54:19This was a shuck problem. It was a Minnesota problem.
54:22Yeah, it was a Minnesota problem. Odunze and Burden, both on the duds list.
54:26They couldn't figure out the quarterback position this week.
54:29Yeah, Bayesian. Seems like we're going to finally figure out what the Bears' offense is.
54:34Any week now. Just give me a couple more weeks to gather the data.
54:38Waddle, five targets, two for 19. I would try to trade Waddle because you don't know when you can play him.
54:45Yeah. That's the problem. And he's a big name.
54:47So you might sell somebody on him. Michael Wilson, seven targets, four for 30.
54:52That one made no sense. There were some comments about now you'll get to enjoy being the sacrificial X in the offense.
54:58But it was really just, you know, he had seven targets.
55:02I think he's going to be great. Jacoby Brissett's not good.
55:05I have, I think Michael Wilson for the most part will be great because the targets will be there.
55:11But the fact that this is a possibility for Brissett to look that bad, for the Cardinals to be that bad.
55:17It's two weeks. Rams and the Denver Broncos. I mean, those are not, those are not good.
55:23That's easy. But after that. After that you get Dallas, but that's two weeks, man.
55:27Yeah. DK Metcalf, three catches for 12 yards and also fumbled.
55:31I watched two of the catches. You know what they were?
55:34Two catches were back to back place, screen right, screen left.
55:37So line of scrimmage passes. They just wanted to remind him.
55:41Other than that, he had one catch for like five yards and a fumble.
55:45You'd think that losing, you know, Roman Wilson and Michael Pittman would benefit him.
55:49But trust levels are low. Josh Downs, it's not been happening.
55:53It sucks. So Jeremy Bernard, I didn't realize it was.
55:56Yeah. I knew he had a good game, but 80 yards.
55:59He led the team in targets. Yeah. He had a great game.
56:03And he's a big pick up. Oh no. I didn't even see the stat line for Carnell Tate.
56:08Yeah. It was terrible. I mean, Cam Ward. Oh, he's so dumb.
56:12Watching the press conference of Cam Ward afterwards, the guys asking the questions, they're a little bit rude asking him, you know,
56:19so are you used to losing now? You know, whatever.
56:22You don't have to be mean like that. If you're going to be mean, just be mean.
56:27You don't got to veil this thing. Come in to the press conference and be like, you suck.
56:33You suck. How do you respond? Exactly, Mike. I want someone to do that.
56:37Cam Ward, I think you suck. What do you think?
56:40Like, just go ahead and say the truth. But also, he stinks.
56:44Carnell Tate had a pretty open touchdown that he was missed on, on one of his five targets, but six yards on a couch.
56:51I was going to say, there's a reliable, unreliable scale here.
56:54And right now, Carnell Tate, Jalen Waddell, any of the wider seers for the Bears, DK Metcalf, they're all in the unreliable category.
57:02Dobbs apparently is too, with one catch in a game.
57:05Dobbs got a cool touchdown. I watched it. Number 87 for the Packers.
57:09Yeah. It's like, I refuse to believe that's not Dobbs.
57:12Um, Ladd McConkie never played, but he was active.
57:14What was funny is, we heard and I reported he was going to be inactive.
57:19Absolutely. Because he was. Thank you. All the talk was he was not going to be active.
57:24And then it turns out they had to have like enough players active because they have lost so many.
57:30Uh, I mean, we, we make a lot about the 49ers losing players because they've got a substation, but, um, the chargers have been dead.
57:38Their offense, they have nobody left their offensive line, their wide receiver core.
57:42I mean, Trey Harris was the wide receiver one.
57:45He got hurt. Yeah, he was. And Trey Harris was the wide receiver three.
57:49Yeah. Now you're out of options. They are doomed.
57:52They are doomed. Like doomed is the, it's a, an appropriate word for them.
57:56Doomed. And they're really doomed because they have Justin Herbert.
57:59They're, they're going to have a pick where you could maybe look at replacing them and they're going to be like, no way.
58:06Well, I don't think it's, I mean, Oh, I almost said the line, the famous Herbert line that I don't think it's his problem.
58:13But when you don't have, you don't have your center, you don't have both your tackles.
58:18You don't have five wide receivers. You don't have your top two tight ends.
58:23Yeah. It's not, it's not really Herbert's fault alone.
58:25It's everything. It's it, it is. And he doesn't need to be replaced.
58:29It doesn't. It doesn't. If Jeremiah Smith joins that team and a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator, you can believe again.
58:37It's so tough because he is not a bad quarterback and it feels so stupid.
58:41Some of those interceptions are pretty bad. For sure.
58:44It's a snowball effect right now where he is playing terrible football, trying to help a team that has no hope that is doomed.
58:51I saw, I saw a comment from a charge, our good friend of the show, Paul charging in.
58:57He was like, how much money would the chargers have to pay for the Vikings to take the rest of this contract?
59:04I would be 1000% in. If you said Justin Herbert to the Minnesota Vikings.
59:08That's it. Yeah. Unless. Unless. They'd win the Super Bowl.
59:11Well, or, or the curse travels because he is a cursed man.
59:15And, and, uh, wow. Speaking of curses, Colson Loveland, two for 19.
59:18Dude. Target share by week. Uh, not good. No.
59:21Um, is this just going to be a whiff or are we waiting for this Caleb return to save us?
59:27I, I am very not happy. That is the wrong word, but just like I accepted this is a massive loss.
59:34Uh, I thought Loveland was going to be it very, very wrong.
59:38By the end of the year, we could have some sort of redemption tour, but it's like, I'm not saying like, I'm
59:44not, I'm not tripling down saying go trade for him.
59:47Like it's going to happen. There's players that are, that are still bad right now that I would be like, nope, I'm still in.
59:55I'm still in the question that everybody who drafted him has is like, do I drop?
60:00Just drop. Do I do? I do. Can I drop him?
60:03It's so hard to imagine. I personally would not drop him, but I'm not playing him.
60:08Because there's no Caleb. Yeah. Uh, when we had Caleb, I mean, it's, it feels like a lot of excuses, but it's, it's tough.
60:15If you're, if you're the, if you are the manager of Colston Loveland, I mean, Elijah Higgins has more points than him on the year.
60:23Nate Adkins. What about that guy that you couldn't pronounce for the Cardinals?
60:27That might be more too. Probably. Uh, George Kittle, Fannin and Juwan Johnson, Johnson with the Minnesota game, Fannin.
60:33That one's unfortunate. And then Kittle just had a down game.
60:36Fannin was like, that was a real sloppy rainy game that the Jets Browns.
60:40Yeah. And, and, and Kittle, uh, it came out like right before the game that he was very ill.
60:46And we had another member of the, the armed services.
60:49Oh, major, major sickness showed up. Al said he's in the same battalion as major soreness.
60:54Yeah. General soreness. Oh, general soreness. That's right. No, I was a major sickness or general sickness.
61:00I don't, I don't remember the sickness, but it was, it was major sickness.
61:04Yeah. So we got general soreness and major sickness.
61:07I haven't been in the armed forces, uh, is majors or generals?
61:10No, generals. Yeah. We're good. I can't wait to find out about Lieutenant, you know, Lieutenant ankle or something.
61:16Hmm. Yeah. Try again. Um, gotta be more generic.
61:19Yeah. I mean, this is a whole, this is a whole order of operations here, but, uh, that is going to do
61:26it for today's episode waiver show tomorrow. Tomorrow will be the first day I do a show as somebody that's hit a
61:32hole in one, which is like, it's just exciting to think about tomorrow.
61:36What my attitude will be. You are going to be on this microphone.
61:40Here's the intro. Are you ready? Oh, welcome in.
61:43That's probably, you're going to be so sore from two hours of hitting before I hit my hole.
61:49I don't know why we get sore for that.
61:51Um, we got a fantasy draft redo on Wednesday.
61:54That'll be fun. And we'll preview the Thursday night game then, but waiver day tomorrow.
61:59It's a big day. There'll be, you know, if you want custom waivers for your league specific to each and every waiver
62:06wire, that's part of the ultimate dashboard at join the foot.com.
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62:13Thank you for tuning in for listening. I'm going to get out to the course that is going to do it for today's show.
62:20Good luck. Good luck. Yeah. Easy, easy stuff. Guys do this all the time.
62:24Good luck tonight, everybody. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast.
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