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0:38Welcome in, welcome in. It's the Late Round Fantasy Football Show sponsored by DraftKings.
0:42David Kitchen here with my quant, my goat, my boss, my friend, JJ Zacharyarysen.
0:46JJ, how are you doing? Eight days away from the season starting.
0:50Technically seven, right? Because we get a Wednesday game next week.
0:53Yeah. Technically. I know that you're on an East Coast time, so it's a little bit different.
0:59You guys count things differently and you're way far behind where we are.
1:03But technically a week, right? Until things go. Yeah.
1:05A week. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. I'll update it.
1:09But are you doing okay? Like with a week left until the season starts?
1:13It's the latest possible start of the NFL season with the way the calendar falls.
1:18Yeah, I'm all right. I got a every Labor Day.
1:21We do a little lake weekend with my wife and her family.
1:25And so we got that going this weekend. I got one more draft guide update that we're doing for Friday.
1:31And then the draft guide updates, unless something like very, very dramatic happens.
1:35I don't know. I feel like it's the calm before the storm.
1:38But I'm excited. You're ready. Yeah, we have the draft guide that you can still purchase at late round dot com.
1:45Also, we're getting into when the season starts. We're going to have some changes.
1:49Matt asked, do you get the live show during the season as well?
1:53Friday, 1 p.m. Eastern. Bookmark your calendars. That will be the time of this show live on YouTube during the season.
2:00Yeah. Yeah. During the season. So starting. I mean, it starts next week.
2:04Starts next week. So this is our last Wednesday show until next week is the Friday show.
2:09And that show is going to be the same content that we did last year.
2:14Or I go over some sleepers players. I'm higher and lower on versus expert consensus rankings.
2:19We still do news. We do today's data. But the main event changes into, you know, the standard rankings and shit like
2:25where I'm where my stuff is higher than consensus.
2:28And then also sleepers. I was going to say shift there.
2:32I think that I stopped myself in the middle of the sentence.
2:35But just to be clear to the kids out there, I was going to say shift.
2:40And to the audio listeners, that will be dropped in your podcast feed on Saturdays going forward.
2:45But during the season also, we will have a lot of stuff up for our members.
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2:57We'll have rest of season rankings. We'll have a Discord chat.
3:01All the good stuff going on there, JJ. So excited about that.
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3:36JJ, are you going to be doing any more best ball drafts now that you're done with the 150?
3:42Yeah, I mean, I have some slows going on.
3:45I'll try to enter some of the other ones that are out there.
3:49But I focus a lot more on season-long stuff.
3:51You know, I've got a draft tomorrow night. I think I'm taking tonight off, which is going to be nice because I
3:58haven't been able to do that really recently. It's basically like every night there seems to be something.
4:04So, yeah. I mean, I'm like a 7.5 out of 10 happy that I was able to get the portfolio that I did in best ball this year.
4:12And you can listen to what is in that portfolio by listening to the most recent Becoming a Best Ball Bro episode.
4:19Yeah. Lots of stuff going on, JJ. Let's get into it.
4:23It's today's news. Today's fantasy news! All right. Let's start off with the nuclear fantasy bomb that happened on, I guess it was Sunday.
4:30It seems like Sundays have been the big fantasy news bomb day.
4:34The action gente day too, right? Right. So, Sunday, we got word that Josh Jacobs put on the commissioner's exempt list, meaning
4:41that he is not going to be playing. And we don't know for how long, but that definitely elevates Marshawn Lloyd.
4:47Yeah. I think that Lloyd belongs sort of like ahead of Jalen Warren, maybe right after the New England guys.
4:53Otherwise, you could argue him over, I think, Atravion.
4:56I'd still be taking Ramondre over Marshawn Lloyd personally, just because, you know, in Jadarian Price, I'd take over Marshawn Lloyd.
5:02There's still like a lot up in the air with this Josh Jacobs situation in general where this doesn't mean that he's out for the year.
5:10I think some people are treating him as he's out for the year.
5:14I do think that there is a chance that he doesn't play football.
5:18I think there's a chance he doesn't play football ever again.
5:22Like there's a chance because we don't know what exactly, you know, Drew Davenport does really good breakdowns of this stuff.
5:28And one of the things that he brought up that I think is very valid is the fact that like if the
5:35NFL is making this move and they more than likely would not be making this move without more information than what the public has right now.
5:43And so that more information would hypothetically be the fact that there's this video out there that might show something that could
5:50be very damning and bad for the NFL brand.
5:53Which, you know, unfortunately in the end is something that they have to think about from a PR standpoint.
5:59Obviously, the bigger deal here is that this is even a thing and that domestic violence occurs and that this is something that we have to talk about.
6:07But there, you know, as business people are thinking about that and we just have to be realistic about what the NFL
6:14is like when we're trying to manage our fantasy team.
6:17We have to think about what the party's interests are that are involved, right?
6:21And so they put Josh Jacobs on this exempt list.
6:25He could be suspended for six games. Now, to be clear, when you're on the exempt list, whatever games you miss go towards your suspension.
6:32So if he is suspended for six games and he serves five, he only has one more game to serve until he can come back from that suspension.
6:41So the way I kind of see it with Marshawn Lloyd is if Jacobs were to be out for the year, I
6:48think Lloyd would be a fringe top 20 type running back, you know, maybe a little bit later.
6:53But like, I think there's a chance that's still happening.
6:56I'm just ranking him in a spot where I think there's a big drop off at running back, which is basically right
7:03around where Jalen Warren gets drafted, you know, around that area.
7:06Some would even put Tony Pollard there. I'm very low on Tony Pollard, so I don't have him ranked there.
7:13But I think that you can draft Lloyd sort of in that range.
7:17When I look at his prospect profile, you know, and you can read his prospect profile from a couple years ago when he came out.
7:24I wasn't like jumping for joy about Marshawn Lloyd.
7:27I didn't think he was an amazing prospect. He was older, 23, over 23 years old when drafted.
7:33He had a prorated best season reception share in the 38th percentile, adjusted yards per team play and adjusted yards per team
7:39pass attempt in the 48th and 55th percentile. So pretty average production profile when looking strictly at the things that go into the running back zap model.
7:48But that being said, he had a 90th percentile avoided tackles per attempt across his career, and he had an 84th percentile explosive run rate.
7:56And that plays into how well he did running that.
7:59What was it? A 44640 at 220 pounds. Like he's a very compact runner and build, and he's very fast.
8:05Like if you watch him play, he's super, super shifty.
8:08And so I do like that when we have a good speed score matching with a good explosive run rate, which is
8:15one of the things that I had questions about with Mike Washington.
8:18Mike Washington was the opposite of this, where he had a really good speed score, unbelievable speed score, one of the best we've ever seen.
8:26But his explosive run rate really wasn't there in college.
8:29It might be there in the system and, you know, it can still happen.
8:33I'm just saying that it's a lot easier when, and Bashal Tootin had a really good explosive run rate while also being explosive at the combine.
8:42Like you like that all paired together. So I think Marshawn Lloyd is going to get first crack, kind of be the
8:481A because he's never really carried a massive workload.
8:51But, you know, in a world and in a league where backfields are split, I think there's a lot of value in
8:58that, especially because it's Green Bay and it's an offense that we generally want to invest in.
9:03Okay. With that, Caleb Johnson, noted fantasy football bust from last year, traded to the Packers for a pack of peanuts, basically.
9:10I would imagine that Caleb Johnson is not going to get a crack at playing time early on here.
9:16I think that this is more of like a good to late season type of thing just to see like what goes down and such.
9:23I look, I don't think that rushing production metrics are unbelievably predictive, you know, year in and year out.
9:29And I've said this before, but with the year two model, when I'm projecting year two to four production for running backs
9:36versus, you know, after seeing what they did as rookies.
9:39And when I, when I project year two to four output, I'm looking at their ZAP model score.
9:45And I'm also looking at what they did year one at running backs.
9:49That model score is a lot more predictive than anything that players do in year one.
9:54Like realistically, it's a way different at wide receiver where year one production is pretty predictive, but at running back, it's not overly predictive.
10:01So I'm not like, look, I think Caleb Johnson's probably dust.
10:05I mean, the chance that he's going to become something, some star or something is very, very, very, very slim.
10:11But with that being said, I do think that he could be like, I mean, we saw Tank Bigsby kind of go
10:17from being someone that no one really wanted to somebody.
10:21Oh, wow. He was actually really efficient in year two.
10:24And now he's someone that, you know, people like to handcuff.
10:27Like I could see that kind of trajectory for Caleb Johnson because he wasn't, in my opinion, that bad of a prospect.
10:34I don't think he was like flawless and great, but he definitely was not that bad of a prospect.
10:40When you give context of the offense that he was playing in, in the age adjusted stuff that I tend to look at.
10:47So, yeah, I mean, like if you want to stash him in a deep league at the end of your bench, I think that's fine.
10:55I wouldn't expect a whole lot right away. I think Chris Brooks will probably get some run.
11:00There was some Pierre Strong talk I saw there, which, you know, we can't dismiss that because all of these guys are unknowns at this point.
11:08I don't want to say they're Jags because we just don't know if they're good or not.
11:13So with Caleb Johnson right now, I would just stash, cross your fingers, and I would only do it in a deep league.
11:20Yeah. And for those unks out there, Jags means just a guy.
11:24That's what Jags, not the Jaguars. All right. We have Ashton Gentry trending in the right direction.
11:29Woo. Let's go. I was nervous. He's a bit nervous.
11:32Just a little scare. But he's back on the practice field.
11:36How are you feeling? Washington played himself into some more work than what otherwise we would.
11:40We will never know. We'll have no idea. Right.
11:43Because we don't know this. There's an alternate universe out there where Mike Washington was crap in the preseason.
11:49And, you know, they don't they don't think that he's like any good.
11:53But I do think that he maybe played himself in a more early down stuff.
11:58But I think Gentry is still the guy who's going to see all the pass catching work, which is really, really important
12:05for fantasy and really, really important for those early round guys.
12:08Because chances are Gentry will get some of the most of the goal line stuff.
12:13And then he'll still see a large chunk of the early down work.
12:17So I moved him back up into a tier with us because I think there is some risk.
12:22Right. With this injury with Mike Washington, there's a there's there's more risk today than there was a month ago with Ash and Gentry.
12:30So whereas before I kind of had him above these guys, I have him with these guys and that those guys being Saquon, Chase Brown and Kenneth Walker.
12:38And then ahead of the tier of like Amari and Hampton, Devon HN and Derek Henry and have PPR leagues.
12:44That's where I'm placing Ash and Gentry right now.
12:47So, OK, next on the list, we have Travion not yet cleared for practice.
12:51This is a little bit scary. I mean, scary for people who drafted Travion Henderson, maybe.
12:56Yes, not not scary for these Ramondre bags over here.
12:59Yeah, I mean, look, if Travion doesn't play or if he misses, then obviously Ramondre Stevenson is even more of a bell cow.
13:07I think Ramondre is the clear one one a in that backfield to start the season.
13:12And this is sort of like the theme that I'm getting to with Marshawn Lloyd, with even a Ramondre.
13:17Like I'm trying to, you know, when when when I'm focused on like the draft guide and with your draft, right?
13:24Like that's what the draft guide is about. It's how to win your draft and do well in your draft.
13:30I'm trying to put less emphasis on what's going to happen in November and December for your fantasy teams because you can manage things, right?
13:38This isn't best ball where you draft a team and you're done.
13:41You're never touching that lineup again. And so what that means is, is that we don't necessarily have to.
13:47Obviously, if you want Travion Henderson, you got to draft Travion Henderson because no one's he's not going to go undrafted.
13:54But if you're in an active league that trades, I do think that there are going to be ebbs and flows with
14:01some players where their high might be around the draft.
14:04They might hit a low in October and then you can buy again and then get into that player and have him on your roster.
14:11I think Travion could end up being one of those types of players this year.
14:16You know, I still like Ramondre a lot more just in general.
14:20But but with that being said, like at least versus cost.
14:23With that being said, though, I think there's a path where Travion as the season goes on, he just improves and they
14:30want to use him more and he's more explosive and yada, yada, yada.
14:34I don't think there was that much evidence of that last year aside from his really big plays.
14:39But basically what I'm saying here is, is that the reason I'm into like players like Ramondre or like Marshawn Lloyd, you
14:46might have heard where I'm ranking him and be like, wow, that seems really aggressive.
14:51I don't think it's really aggressive versus what the market's been doing, number one.
14:55But number two, I want to win September. You know, I want to I want to win early on and then that
15:02way I can have play more of that bully ball within my league and be able to put together a really great
15:09roster for that playoff push as opposed to, you know, historically there have been times where I've been buying into rookies for
15:16second year, second half of the year breakouts. And I think if I'm being honest with myself as an analyst and helping
15:22you guys, a lot of it is no, let's let's try to win right out the gate while also understanding what's to come later.
15:30But maybe being able to play those ebbs and flows a little bit better on, you know, from a transaction standpoint.
15:36All right. I'm actually going to bump up this little news bit.
15:40The title is, oh, no, JB has a little soreness.
15:43That's what it was yesterday. And then reading today from Mike K.
15:47Jonathan Brooks working to the side with trainer again.
15:50Dave Canales said that he had soreness, quote unquote, yesterday, but wouldn't specify where.
15:54I wonder where that soreness could be, JJ. This has to concern people just a little bit.
15:59Right. Maybe finger finger soreness is what. Yeah. Yeah.
16:02A little wrist soreness. Yeah. I mean, maybe for all we know, he's dealing with hemorrhoids.
16:07Right. We have no idea what's going on with Jonathan Brooks.
16:10So, yeah, I mean, like I have said this on this show.
16:14I've said I'm becoming a best ball bro in higher stakes slash best best ball contests and best ball drafts.
16:20The gap between Jonathan Brooks and Shuba Hubbard over the last couple of weeks has been way too big.
16:26And that's me saying as someone who chases upside, who likes Jonathan Brooks more than Shuba.
16:31I'm still recognizing the range of outcomes here and the probability of how this thing goes down.
16:36And Shuba, you were getting him in the 11th round and you still are in best ball drafts right now.
16:42Like that is insane. When you figure he's going to get some work in this offense.
16:47I think we're just overstating this like early season injury for Shuba.
16:51And look, Shuba was not very good last year.
16:54Bad receiving profile the last few years. Last year didn't have explosive runs.
16:58You know, he just was not really doing it, getting it done, you know, whether through the ground or through the air
17:05on the ground or through the air. This Jonathan Brooks thing is a little bit scary because Brooks has the history that he has.
17:12So I would expect these ADPs to kind of meet in the middle a little bit more.
17:17I'd still be drafting Brooks over Hubbard because the upside rests with him.
17:21In my opinion, he was a better prospect, good receiving profile.
17:25I think they use him more as a pass catcher.
17:28But there's obvious fear that, you know, there could be this could be something.
17:32We just have no information on it right now because Dave Canales isn't telling us anything.
17:37Okay. Kittle throwing another shrimp on the barbie. Wanted to do this because it looks like he might play.
17:43At least he's going to travel with the team.
17:46This is your Australian Australian. Yeah. You know, but that's all we think about people out from Australia.
17:51We just talk about shrimp on the barbie, right?
17:54Yeah. And it's for those that don't know, it means an outdoor cookout with seafood in Australia.
17:59Yes. I thought it's good. It's a good thing that he is look trending towards playing because otherwise we'd be saying our nar.
18:06Right. About Kittle. No, I'm excited. I'm excited about Kittle being able to play.
18:11I don't think he's going to be at 100%, of course.
18:14But, I mean, everything's been trending in this direction throughout the offseason.
18:18And apparently the Achilles injury that he had was not like the bad kind.
18:22I don't know anything about that and what it means from a medical standpoint.
18:26But that's the way that a lot of docs were sort of phrasing it and such.
18:31So, I've had him ranked relatively high and aggressive.
18:34And, you know, I've drafted him on plenty of teams.
18:37I think we drafted him in our late round team that we did together.
18:41Me, you, and Godula for members. So, I think he's on that tight end premium team.
18:46We got a nice discount. So, yeah. I mean, I think if he's playing, he's probably going to end up being a start-worthy-ish tight end in week one.
18:55Just because that's what George Kittle does. Not the best matchup in the world.
18:59I'm a little bit afraid of anyone facing the Rams at this point.
19:03But, yeah. I mean, it's obviously good news. Yeah.
19:06I'm already ready for it. Because even in my home league, I drafted Kittle.
19:10But I also drafted Dallas Goddard just, like, later on in case he didn't play.
19:15And we're going to get those questions next week, left and right, depending on if Kittle's going to play or not.
19:22Should I play him? Should I play him? All right.
19:25Won't you please play my neighbors? Malik neighbors is dealing, also dealing with some soreness, JJ.
19:30And this is a tad bit concerning. Yeah. I had to change that O to an E in there.
19:35Sorry. Yeah. You're doing what I tweeted about the other day, about how no one spells neighbor's name correctly.
19:41No one ever spells it correctly. What if I did it on purpose?
19:45Yeah. Just to put me on tilt. Again, this is another one of those things where I'm a little bit nervous about,
19:52you know, what all of this means with his injury and him not being 100% yet.
19:57And I think there's some chance that he doesn't play week one.
20:01The thing that's always really weird to me is like when players are banged up and they're like, oh, we can't play
20:08week one, but week two is looking good. Like one week out of this really long time frame is making this massive
20:14difference between whether or not this guy could be on the field.
20:18That's always been weird to me. But yeah, I mean, like, I think you got to monitor this situation because obviously we've
20:25been drafting him at like the two, three turn.
20:28And if he's not playing week one, you got to find someone to fill in.
20:32I still think that he's worthwhile to draft at the two, three turn.
20:36Just be, I think, you know, I have like a lava and Nico above him, but I do think that they're, you
20:43know, they're in the same tier and such. I think you can still draft him there because early on in the season
20:50is one of the easiest times to replace players because no one's on by no one's hurt aside from, you know, the guy that you're replacing.
20:58You just have fewer injuries, no by weeks. Your bench is is fresher and easier to throw someone in there.
21:04So it's another reason why you can still draft neighbors.
21:07But yes, this is something that should lower his ADP hypothetically.
21:10The fact that this news item is out there.
21:13Okay. Chris Godwin might be in a pretty good spot.
21:16We already have drafted him quite a bit on this show.
21:20But Emeka Ibuka, there is video of him today.
21:22Yeah. I Peter report. I saw in the, in the news channel in our late round discord of him working out during
21:29warmups, but I still am skeptical that he will be ready for week one.
21:34We hope that Ibuka will be ready for week one, but if not Godwin is his value week.
21:39One's going to go up. I think Godwin's a great pick regardless.
21:43He's one of my highest rostered wide receivers in best ball this year.
21:47You know, you can kind of explain away what happened last year due to the injury and coming back from the injury before that injury happened.
21:55He was literally a top five wide receiver in fantasy.
21:58He was destroying in fantasy. And so I'm in on Godwin without Mike Evans.
22:02His splits without Evans are obviously good and solid.
22:05So I think that you should be drafting him regardless, but I think it just makes it even more enticing.
22:11The fact that Ibuka may not play week one.
22:14I think he probably will, but even if he does, it's an injury that can kind of linger.
22:20So I'm, I'm in on Godwin this year. I think that he's a good pick at ADP.
22:25Yeah. Jalen McMillan also with his knee not fully cleared.
22:28So again, just plenty of room for Chris Godwin.
22:31And Ken Allen reportedly is playing week one, bro.
22:33What are you doing? Yeah. I mean, look, I said this on becoming a best ball bro.
22:39I'll say it now. Don't, don't drive while intoxicated.
22:41Don't be in a car like that in the driver's seat with the key in the, in the ignition, the way that
22:48he was, I know he allegedly was parked, but that's still, you know, it shows intent and I'm sure, you know, maybe
22:55he was or whatever he was doing before that, probably not the best decision.
22:59Uh, and I, he would probably agree with that.
23:02So, you know, it's one of those things where there are unfortunately way worse things that are going on in the NFL with some of these players.
23:11And we, we unfortunately do see DUIs quite frequently.
23:13The weird thing with Keenan Allen is that usually these won't come to fruition in terms of suspension or anything until the,
23:20the, the court system, like everything plays out in the court system.
23:24And that might not be until like a suspension happening next year, but what happens if Keenan Allen just says, peace out, I'm retiring, you know?
23:32Like what, what if he's, what if he's just done and he doesn't have to serve that suspension.
23:37So like I, from, from what I can gather, I don't think he's going to be suspended this year.
23:43You know, Chris Ballard said something like along the lines of like, he's had a very clean record until this one bad incident.
23:50And I am, uh, uh, you know, I, I do think that people deserve second chances and we can't just judge them based on one bad decision.
23:59Uh, with that being said, it was a bad decision and it was a stupid decision and nobody should be doing that.
24:05What he did. Okay. Yeah. And Alec Pierce just staying on the Colts out, pure still not ready for week one.
24:12We're assuming he did not get put on IR.
24:15Yeah. I don't know what to do about. I kind of am thinking though, that he's like, I drafted him last night in the league cause he's falling.
24:23Uh, I saw Dr. Chow tweet something like his ankle didn't look as bad as people probably think.
24:29Uh, and so I'm kind of buying more into Alec Pierce than where I was before.
24:34The problem is I'm at the point now where after the top 30 wide receivers are gone, you then there, you see like a teardrop.
24:42Maybe it's like after Parker Washington or something from an ADP perspective, you see this teardrop into like the Godwin range.
24:48And then, you know, you get into like the Cortland Suttons and Michael Wilson's and Jordan Madison's and design Dajon Striblings and, uh, players like Casey Concepcion.
24:56I, I, I like a lot of those guys.
24:59I think Alec Pierce belongs with those players at this point.
25:03Whereas before it was more of just a, we got to avoid the situation.
25:07I think you can argue to take him over a lot of those guys.
25:11If you want to, if you want to get risky and take a chance, you know, so, um, definitely monitor that, but
25:18I think he might end up being a value in some draft, some individual draft ADP might not show it, but in
25:25some individual drafts, he's probably going to drop too far.
25:28Uh, Dan Graziano had his, uh, surprising predictions for each NFL team.
25:32Um, for the Colts, don't be surprised if Josh Downs is the team's top wide receiver.
25:36And with that talked about Pierce, not being able to fully expand his route tree.
25:41Yeah. I mean, I think that like, you know, Downs has been a target in the draft guide all summer.
25:47So I'm, I'm, I'm in on Downs, you know, I'm not really drafting Keenan Allen in a managed league.
25:53I think it's more of a best ball situation.
25:56And then Alec Pierce, if you want to throw that dart, the upside is clearly there, but I do think missing time
26:03when you needed this player to take a step forward from a route tree perspective, it makes a lot of sense as
26:09to why Graziano would say something like that. What I discovered in my home league draft from this past weekend is we
26:16spend all this time in our, you know, summer best ball redraft high stakes bubble.
26:21And then we got there, I got to the auction and like no one wanted Josh Downs.
26:26Yeah. Oh yeah. I've gotten to every home league.
26:29I got, I get Josh Downs in like the 12th round.
26:32Yeah. Right. So some things translated, uh, some things did not, I will say we'll go ahead and, and skip to, uh,
26:39to Luther burden because he went for a crazy price.
26:42I couldn't even get them. And I'm like, this is ridiculous.
26:46Yeah. But here's, here's the thing with, here's the thing with burden.
26:49I see all that. Like to me, there's been more anti-burden talk than, than pro burden talk from analysts at this point.
26:56Like there's more people that are like, I don't understand this ADP.
27:00Go look at his ADP. It's not nearly as high as what you think.
27:04Like people are acting like he's being drafted ahead of like Devante Smith.
27:08And so he's not like, he's in the tier that I think he objectively belongs.
27:13And I'm higher than where he gets drafted for sure.
27:16I like Luther burden, but like, you're going to find an individual draft, especially an auction, all you need in an auction
27:23are two people that really like a player, you know, that can bid a player up.
27:28And then it just, you know, he goes crazy and goes for a lot of money.
27:32And then obviously in a, in a season long league, you just need that one person.
27:37But, um, there, there are enough people that don't like Luther burden and don't like buying into the ambiguity.
27:43And that's why his ADP is like low end wide receiver to range.
27:47It's not, you know, it's like, I see a lot of people talking about him being in like the third round.
27:54He's not a third round player. I've not seen him go in the third round, even in best ball and maybe even all summer.
28:01You know, it's just not happening the way that people are making it seem like it's happening.
28:06So I still think that you can, you should, and can be going after Luther burden and drafts despite, you know, obviously,
28:13like you said, kitchen, like in your draft, he goes higher, that's going to happen in some drafts.
28:19You know, it's, it's not, you know, like I, we were talking to somebody in the discord or I was earlier today
28:26where they were like, man, Chris Alave is probably gonna be a player for you player to target in your draft guide this week.
28:33Huh? Because I've been seeing Chris Alave go at the end of the third round.
28:38And I'm like, but he's not going at the end of the third round and the vast majority, like that's your experience.
28:44Totally get it. And that could be happening in your leagues.
28:48I'm not discounting that, but average draft position is average draft position.
28:51You're taking thousands and thousands of drafts to come up with that number.
28:56Staying in Chicago, common guy week to week. He did not land on IR and you can see on the screen, the
29:02list of players that are on IR. Well, kind of, sort of.
29:06Zach Charbonnet, Isaiah Pacheco, James Conner, Adam Randall, Trey Benson, Tank Dell, Christian Kirk, Jordan Tyson.
29:11And that's it. There are two other guys that were, I think were free agents.
29:16That's not the only one. Don't worry about those two guys.
29:19Yeah. I mean like, yeah, that's great. The Isaiah Pacheco stuff is just as crazy too, because he just has had this injury lingering.
29:26And then like, someone asked him if he was going to play this year and they were like, yeah, we think so.
29:33We think he's going to, and it's like, whoa.
29:36Okay. So this is like a pretty serious thing.
29:39But yeah, the Mononga week to week thing, it's just rising DeAndre Swift's ADP into that like very firm fourth round.
29:45I saw him last night. I did a draft team in the third round, DeAndre Swift.
29:50So at RB 14, I don't think that I'd pay that high of a price because I do think Mononga will be back eventually.
29:58And obviously there's going to be some somewhat of a split backfield, but I think DeAndre Swift's a good player.
30:04And so I'm not going to fault anyone for, for reaching a little bit to get that, that kind of running back.
30:10Yeah. Last year, you know, I got, I got screwed by a few different players.
30:15Marshawn Lloyd drafting so much of him. Roshan Johnson, the bears.
30:19Now I've got those situations flip-flopped. Also last year, I drafted a ton of Jaden blue.
30:23Jaden blue. Did not this year. So, uh, one for three Jaden blue cut by the Cowboys, re-signed with the Eagles practice squad.
30:31That was crazy. The cope has been so funny.
30:33Like, like you people on Twitter are like, well, this could actually be a good thing for Jaden guys.
30:39It's not a good thing for Jaden blue. He sat with the Eagles probably for like Intel purposes and he's being cut
30:46by his team after being drafted last year. And this is from coming from someone that my stance on Jaden blue is
30:53actually, I didn't mind him as a prospect. Like that was a wrong evaluation.
30:57Clearly I got it wrong, you know? Uh, but like, I think a lot of people were only buying into the situation.
31:04And then obviously there's the, the, uh, the reverse side of that, where then people yell at the people who are just buying in a situation.
31:12I'm like, no, I actually thought that he was a pretty interesting prospect, like really good, uh, speed, good pass catcher.
31:18If that comes together, that's, that's valuable in a, in a, in fantasy football.
31:23Obviously it has not come together. And so now we're looking at Malik Davis being one of the higher end handcuffs at this point in fantasy.
31:31And then here's the other thing, kitchen that I want to throw this take out there.
31:36I'm just going to get a lob it out there.
31:39Let people kind of consume it a little bit.
31:42Yeah. I think that them getting Amari DiMarcado might end up being a worse thing for Javante Williams than them just having Jaden blue.
31:49If we now, now that we know what Jaden blue was likely going to be for them.
31:54Right. Which was nothing. Right. Right. So like them having Amari DiMarcado, who's played a third down role historically and has shown off actually some burst at time.
32:03Remember that really long touchdown he had? Well, almost had.
32:06And then the one that, that he dropped right before he walked into the end zone.
32:11Yeah. Yeah. We won't talk about that. But yeah.
32:14I mean, like, like DiMarcado, I think could end up being kind of a thorn eventually if they, if they want to
32:20deploy him more in a, in a committee, like as he gets acclimated to the offense and stuff, because he's played that
32:27role in Javante Williams, his biggest, like I haven't faded Javante at all.
32:31I've actually been, I think a couple of spots higher than the market on Javante this off season, which is not standard for me to go out.
32:40And I like to, to be higher on a player like this because his receiving profile is incredibly questionable.
32:45Like he is a standard like dead zone type running back profile that I've been okay with just because of situation that can definitely, definitely bite me.
32:54So I think this is a more fragile situation for Javante Williams in the market might think because after Jaden blue gets
33:01cut, Javante is going to end up being a right after Nico Collins type pick or above a breeze hall type player, which he's been actually pretty consistently.
33:09I'm not there because I don't think there's really a difference between Jaden blue and Amari Di Mercado and Malik Davis could obviously get some work too.
33:17Yes. That was a thing is they also cut Phil Moffa.
33:21And so people just thought it was just those two.
33:24Then they sign. Yeah. I mean, no team is going to go into a season with two running backs, right?
33:30Potential fly in the ointment with Di Mercado. All right.
33:33Last on the list. Dolphins ring that bell for week one.
33:37Chris Bell. Good for him, man. Yeah. I think he's expected to play week one.
33:41I really liked Chris Bell. Um, and now he seems like he's trending in the right direction.
33:47We thought that it was going to be a while before he even saw the field.
33:51Look, I'll say this. I was very, people know this.
33:55I was very skeptical about the day two wide receivers this year in the NFL draft.
33:59A lot of mid profiles, a lot of guys who, you know, were seemingly overdrafted based on their analytical profiles.
34:06But as I was saying over and over again, someone's going to emerge that we don't expect to emerge.
34:12Someone's going to hit that we don't expect to hit.
34:15It's just, uh, just the law of numbers. There's just a lot of players that were being drafted in that top 100 range.
34:22A lot of wide receivers. Chris Bell though, actually had a decent analytical profile.
34:2669th percentile breakout score is not that bad for a day two guy.
34:30Um, you know, a lot of his like per route run numbers are above average.
34:35He had a, a max adjusted yards per team pass attempt season in the 68th percentile.
34:40His max target share was 32%, which is an 84th percentile number.
34:43Um, and he was really good in, uh, contested situations as well in college, which does signal that there might be a separation issue for him.
34:51And that's something that I think Matt Harmon had charted a little bit.
34:55So I don't, I don't think this is like, uh, he's AJ Brown because that's what his build is.
35:01If you want to get an idea of like the frame of Chris Bell, I don't think he's AJ Brown because AJ
35:08Brown had, had a better age adjusted production profile.
35:11But when Chris Bell was drafted, he was not 22 years old yet.
35:15I mean, like there's a lot of good to Chris Bell's profile.
35:18I think straight up Bell is a much better prospect than Caleb Douglas, uh, for, for what we're looking at from a fantasy football perspective.
35:26So I think if you have an IR spot, if he, if he ends up like being out week one, you know, you can throw him on there.
35:35Uh, once he, he gets that designation, but if he plays, uh, I still think that in a deep league, you can,
35:42you can stash him because there's a lot up in the air in that Miami offense right now.
35:47Yeah. Uh, Caleb Douglas is going way ahead of Bell in your, your draft Kings, your best ball drafts.
35:53Uh, now they're pretty similar. And also Bell would be a really good keeper.
35:57Almost got him as a keeper. And so those, those leagues, uh, speaking of best ball drafts right after this show, Brandon
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36:12Brandon still has a little bit more. Uh, so we'll probably draft one of his teams and hopefully I won't convince him to draft a bad team.
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38:00All right, JJ. It is unk season. Are you ready for this?
38:04Yeah. All right. Let's get into today's data. Today's data.
38:07All right. We've got older wide receiver production after multiple down yards per route run seasons.
38:12JJ, you were so excited to debut this. This is just a fun little, little query.
38:17This is all this is. Okay. And yes, this is a DJ more table because I was just curious.
38:22I thought to myself, Hey, what happens to wide receivers if they're entering, if they're, if they're past age 28 and they
38:29had back-to-back seasons where one of the seasons was sub 1.7 yards per route run, which is well above where DJ more's better season was at.
38:37And then the other one was sub 1.5 in either order.
38:41It doesn't matter when those seasons happen. And DJ more was well below those marks.
38:45Okay. So I queried this and I looked through it and I sifted through the data.
38:50And since 2016, there has only been two players who have scored that, that fit this criteria that ran a hundred or
38:57more routes in each of those seasons as well, who have scored over 13 PPR points per game after those two down seasons.
39:04So the TLDR, the explain like I'm five of this is essentially these wide receivers had two bad yards per route run seasons in a row.
39:12They're then 28 years or older entering that third season.
39:15And they've run a hundred or more routes in all three of those years.
39:19And in that third season, how often they actually give us like league winning production.
39:24And the answer to that is not very frequently at all.
39:27You very rarely even get 10 or more PPR points per game.
39:31This is a DJ more thing. I mean, the other thing too, is that eight of the 14 that you see listed
39:38here on a per route run basis were over the 17% targets per route run rate mark in both of their, those
39:45two seasons that we're analyzing DJ more was not in one of them.
39:49So there's also that going against him. He was really bad on a per route run basis.
39:54And so I'm looking at this list and it's another reason why I can't be super, super bullish on DJ more this year.
40:01I think that he has a unique situation where a lot of these guys are not necessarily seeing the same ADP.
40:08The market isn't reacting, you know, they're, they're not all traded to a team like the bills.
40:13Like there's obviously a lot of stuff that's not gonna be captured in something like this, but, and, and just the, the,
40:20you know, looking at trends and seeing how things have generally gone, it's not good news for DJ more overall.
40:26I thought it was interesting. I just wanted to share this doesn't complete my DJ more take where I think DJ more is like a soft fade.
40:34Like I have them in the same tier as a lot of guys.
40:38So like, but basically like there are the top 30 wide receivers, I think are very good wide receivers this year.
40:45None of them in my full blown fading, but some of them I have ranked differently within a tier, right?
40:51So DJ more goes ahead of a lot of players that are in his tier that I would just, you know, I
40:58would take those players ahead of DJ more. That's really what this comes down to.
41:02But I do think that he's going to have to be somewhat of an outlier to really hit this year from a, from a fantasy perspective.
41:10Yeah. John Brown, a name that the chat is talking about bringing back memories.
41:15Lots of good, lots of good names on there.
41:17Damien, Danny Amendola, Mac Collins, this Tyler Boyd boy, he, he went downhill fast.
41:22So yeah, Randall Cobb on there twice, but he didn't do anything in those two seasons.
41:27Yeah. Yeah. A few people, John Brown, Randall Cobb and Amendola all on there twice.
41:31Yeah. And the reason for that is because obviously these guys played into like their thirties and stuff.
41:37So they had the ability to have multiple seasons where they were down.
41:41And then obviously that third season, they were above that 28 years old mark.
41:45All right, JJ, let's get into some waiver wire stashes.
41:48Yeah. I looked at a Yahoo percent roster numbers.
41:51No, I looked at, I looked at Yahoo percent roster numbers and tried to give you guys some realistic options that could
41:58be sitting on your, on your waiver wire right now.
42:01Quarterback. You really don't have anyone that is usable at all.
42:04Hopefully you drafted a quarterback that you can use in week one, but that that's, you know, in like that 20% range or whatever.
42:12So I have two of them that are around the 40% range, Malik Willis being one of them.
42:17I've said it so many times over the last month, but he had 11.8 rushing points per game last year, a 0.88
42:24fantasy points per drop back over his last two seasons.
42:27Lamar Jackson second on that list at 0.71. So there's upside here.
42:31I don't know how people can deny the upside.
42:34You can say the downside is certainly there. Yeah, I agree.
42:37We have no idea if Malik Willis is good or not, but the upside is obviously there and the opening schedule is not bad.
42:44They get the Raiders in week one. They follow that up with the 49ers, which could be a good matchup.
42:51The chiefs, the Vikings, the Bengals, the jets. It's not, you know, unbelievable.
42:55Cause I think like the Bengals secondary is a lot better than people would imagine.
42:59Um, you know, the Vikings are obviously a defense, uh, with, with Flores that that's just generally scary, but you know, you get the jets in there.
43:08I think the 49ers could be a fun one for, for the dolphins.
43:12Uh, and then obviously the Raiders in week one.
43:14So I think there's a scenario where Malik Willis is like a top 15 core.
43:19I haven't done my rankings yet, but he's like a fringe ish top 15 quarterback in week one, all things considered.
43:25Yeah. Also Raiders just announced Kirk cousins name. In quarterback.
43:29So not surprising. No surprise there. All right. Next on the list, another quarterback, Tyler shot.
43:33Yeah. Look, when he became started last year, he was 15th and points per drop back 11th and rushing points per game.
43:40He's a year two player. There's a lot of upside with year two players.
43:45It's a good ecosystem. They run at a fast pace.
43:48There's a lot of passing volume in it. And he starts the season against Detroit, Baltimore, Vegas, and Atlanta.
43:54So maybe you don't play him against Baltimore. I can understand that, but week one against Detroit, he's a great play.
44:00And then you get Vegas and Atlanta weeks three and four.
44:03So I, you know, Tyler Shuck is out there.
44:06I think he's going to have a good first month of the season.
44:10Okay. Next. Tajay Spears, JJ. Your boy. Yeah. Your boy, Tajay Spears.
44:14I mean, this is, this is just more anti Tony Pollard propaganda for me in the end.
44:19He look, I don't know how much noise there is to this, but he played more with Cam Ward in the preseason than Tony Pollard did.
44:27And that includes early down stuff. This is not just a, they were trail.
44:31I mean, not that you would like play hurry up in a, in the first quarter of games or whatever, but this
44:38wasn't like they were just deploying Tajay Spears on third down or in like a hurry up offense or anything like that.
44:45Like he was getting early down work in the offense.
44:48Maybe that means nothing, but it's a new coaching staff.
44:51We don't know how this backfield is going to be divvied up and no offense to the, to the Titans hat wearing
44:58co-hosts that I have, but they're probably not going to be very good this year.
45:03And if they're not very good this year, then all of a sudden Tajay Spears, who's been the, the satellite, the third
45:09down, the hurry up back could be on the field a lot more than what we would probably expect.
45:15So I think Spears is kind of a good stash just to see how that backfield is, is split up in week one.
45:22You know, he's more going to be like, there's, there's almost no chance he's got like, unless Tony Pollard gets hurt, does he have like RB two upside?
45:31But I do think that he could maybe be a flex in PPR formats.
45:35Yeah. He's an explosive player. I think that the concern I've always had is just longevity, but as far as like a stash for shorter or.
45:43Is this where we remind everyone that he doesn't have ACLs?
45:47Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have, oh, he's got one.
45:50Yeah. He doesn't have one ACL. Yeah. Heinz Ward, you know, Heinz Ward has zero ACLs.
45:54I didn't, I did not know that. Yeah. Heinz Ward doesn't have any ACLs.
45:59I've got one and a half. I've got one that works partially.
46:02Yeah. So. I have two. I have two. I think I've never got them, you know, MRI directs or anything like that.
46:09Must be nice. All right. Next on this list.
46:12Jonah Coleman. Yeah, man. I look. Jonah Coleman had a very good production.
46:16There are two running backs in this draft class that I thought had genuinely, aside from Jeremiah love that I thought had genuinely good production profiles.
46:24That one was Jonah Coleman. The other was Emma Johnson.
46:27Jonah Coleman's downside was that he wasn't the most explosive player in the world from a, you know, like 40, you know, weight adjusted 40 time type standpoint.
46:36Um, but his production profile is really good. Obviously the situation, Denver's intriguing.
46:40He's a do it all back. Dobbins has durability concerns.
46:43Harvey was bottom of the league and rushing yards over expected per rush last year.
46:48But listen to this college production, 72nd percentile, best season reception share, 88th percentile adjusted yards per team pass attempt, 89th percentile
46:54avoided tackles per attempt, 89th percentile yards after contact per attempt.
46:58Like he had very, very good running them rushing numbers while also being a good pass catcher in college.
47:04So I, I, I do wonder what things are going to look like in week one because they kept Tyler Beatty, sorry, bidet.
47:11I just see the word Beatty on my sheet and I just say it, you know, how it's, how it's should be said, but sorry, bidet.
47:19They kept Tyler bidet. And I wonder what that might look like week one.
47:23Like I'm assuming Jonah Coleman's going to be dressed, but you know, keep an eye on, uh, on it.
47:29Like we've been surprised before with how teams handle rookies, you know, like Devon H and wasn't playing for instance, to start his NFL career too.
47:37So be on the lookout for that. With that being said, I do like Jonah Coleman long-term as a stash.
47:43Yeah. And that Graziano article, as far as someone that might help you during the fancy playoffs, if you're a late round customer, you already know.
47:51Emma Johnson next on the list. Yeah. Jonah Coleman, my highest rostered running back in best ball this year.
47:57Yeah. Went over that in the, uh, on the show.
48:00Emma Johnson, the other guy, uh, he's a do it all back, likely more of a stash.
48:05Very similar to what I just said with Jonah Coleman.
48:08Uh, I want to see what that backfield just generally looks like behind Kenneth Walker.
48:13And if Emma Johnson sees work with Kenneth Walker, even in the backfield, his collegiate production.
48:18Very, very good from a receiving standpoint. 94th percentile best season reception share.
48:2295th percentile adjusted yards per team play. 89th percentile adjusted receiving yards per team past them.
48:27Those are all three metrics that go directly into the running back zap model.
48:31The downside, he lacks explosion even more than Jonah Coleman does, at least from an explosive run rate perspective.
48:37He had a 19th percentile explosive run rate last year, but that pairs really well with Kenneth Walker.
48:43He's a good pass catcher, you know, kind of a do it all guy, like a grinder, like can, can get what he needs.
48:50Whereas Kenneth Walker is that home run hitter who, you know, I love Kenneth Walker this year.
48:55I think he's going to be featured, but it is going to be interesting to see how they split that backfield or
49:02how they deploy a player like Emma Johnson. Maybe not right away, but as the season goes on.
49:08So if you have a deep enough league, you can stash him.
49:11Okay. Next on the list, the guy that we just talked about Malik Davis.
49:16He's the number two back in a high powered offense.
49:19That's what this comes down to. And I already talked about this with Javante Williams, where I don't think that he was
49:26especially like amazing last year as a receiver. And that does have pretty bad year over year predictiveness for, in terms of being a good fantasy asset.
49:34So Malik Davis, I think, you know, I'm not a big, big draft handcuffed guy, but I think that if you have
49:41an empty roster spot, he's not a bad guy to just have back there to see how they split their backfield too.
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51:28All right, Jacoby Lane. I'm still hesitant to say that Jacoby Lane is going to smash.
51:33Yeah. And I say that not because I think that what they're saying out of Baltimore is false.
51:39I understand the upside case for him, but he's a very acrobatic player.
51:43And I think those types of players generally come out and look better in camp than the alternatives do.
51:49And so with Lane, there were some okay arcs.
51:52Like, he's an early declare, pretty average breakout scorer.
51:54He wasn't like one of those day three picks where I'm like, why did that team just do that?
52:00That's a wild pick. Like, I'm not surprised that, you know, he's younger.
52:04He played with NFL competition in college. But I do question how much passing volume this offense is going to see.
52:11And then also, I still think Rashad Bateman is going to play ahead of him to start the year.
52:17So, I think there is a chance that Jacoby Lane ends up being a drop for some teams after the first couple
52:23weeks of the season when his route share is not there or if his route share is not there, etc.
52:29But look, if you want to see, like, what if he surprises and he just comes out and he plays as the wide receiver, too?
52:37That's in his range of outcomes. So, if your league's deep enough, I think you can stash him.
52:43He's only rostered in 18% of leagues. Yeah, one of those guys that if you're plugged into X or social media, you've
52:50seen plenty of highlights, but maybe your league hasn't.
52:52So, we'll see. Another guy, Dontavian Wicks. I love Dontavian Wicks this year.
52:56As a player that, like, if you went running back heavy and you just need some, like, a wide receiver four or
53:03five or something like that to fill a flex spot early in the season, I think Wicks can play that role.
53:10He had 71st, like, since he entered the league, 71st percentile yards per route run.
53:14So, this is since 2023. 76th percentile fantasy points per route run.
53:1881st percentile targets per route run. Like, he's been efficient per route run.
53:22He's just not run a ton of routes. But Kyle Lemon off to a slow start could be playing a slot-only role
53:29in that offense with Dontavian Wicks playing on the outside opposite of Devontae Smith.
53:33We could also see a lot of heavy personnel in that offense, hypothetically.
53:37And so, that could also boost the target share for a player like Wicks.
53:41I just think he's a great pick right now at the end of your draft and a good player to stash.
53:48Okay. Next on the list, the guy we just talked about, Chris Bell.
53:52Already talked about him. All this stuff. I thought he was the most intriguing day two wide receiver this year.
53:5869th percentile breakout score. He's 6'2", 222. Above average yak profile.
54:0186th percentile contested catch rate. Which, again, could show separation issues, but also could also just show that he's a dog.
54:08Right? I do worry about the injury recovery and that separation.
54:11But I am fine with stashing him given the open depth chart in Miami.
54:16All right. Next on the list, Jalen Knoll and Kayshaun Booty.
54:19Yeah. I think Jalen Knoll could be very sneaky this year.
54:22Second half breakout kind of player. He was very, in my opinion, pretty good last year.
54:271.45 yards per route run. He got six of eight deep balls.
54:31He was second on that team in deep ball catches despite the lack of routes run behind only Nico Collins.
54:37So I think Knoll is going to play slot to start.
54:41Maybe that builds into something more. Kayshaun Booty ran a lot of just go routes last year.
54:46And he might end up playing a similar role for Houston.
54:49And that's why they went after him. But I don't think Booty necessarily belongs in that kind of...
54:55I think they can move him around a little bit too.
54:58I like both these players. Like, I think they're both...
55:01I like them both as prospects. And what they've shown in the NFL, I think, is a little bit underrated and undervalued.
55:08So I'll say stash both of them. I think if you want to go with a safer one, it's Booty.
55:14But if you want to go with the upside one in a deep league, just go with Jalen Knoll.
55:20Okay. Next, we have another boom bust receiver, Devon Bailey.
55:23I think Bailey could actually get some production for your teams early in the season.
55:28We talked about that schedule with Tyler Shuck. And obviously, that aligns with Jordan Tyson being sidelined.
55:33And Devon Bailey last year with Shuck had a 1.58 yards per outrun rate.
55:37That's not bad at all. Almost a 19% targets per outrun rate.
55:41We even see some on-off splits with Bailey and Chris Alave, where Alave was not seeing quite as big of a target
55:48share when Bailey was on the field, which tells you that maybe he's good enough to take some of those looks.
55:54So I think Bailey, 2% rostered right now, if you just need a dart throw week one against Detroit, I think he could work.
56:02Okay. We have Kenyon Sadiq next. And boy, do I hope he is a stash that pays off.
56:07Well, I just think that people are overthinking this and they're so worried about early season injury stuff and not thinking about it.
56:14Because he could be ready week one, number one.
56:17But number two, we're talking about a round one tight end.
56:21Middle of round one, bad draft class, sure. But he would have gone late round one if not.
56:26Okay. Elite athlete. One of the best we've ever seen at the Combine.
56:30And he's an afterthought. No one cares about him in fantasy football.
56:34I don't understand. He had an above average age-adjusted production profile.
56:37He's young. There's a lot to like about Sadiq, despite the fact that he's not a Brock Bowers type prospect.
56:43He's still a good prospect. I think that we should be throwing darts in that direction when we're talking about really elite
56:50players and elite prospects who get good draft capital.
56:53And in offense, by the way, Frank Reich's offenses have been very tight end friendly.
56:58So I don't want to overthink it. I think Kenyon Sadiq's a good player and a good pick in fantasy right now.
57:04All right. We have Terrence Ferguson next on this list.
57:08Yeah. The last one, Terrence Ferguson. Someone emailed because I had him as a bold prediction.
57:12I said that he would be the highest scoring Ferguson tight end this year in fantasy football.
57:18So obviously ahead of Jake Ferguson. Someone emailed back and a lot of people have been like, where is Terrence Ferguson's upside really going to come from?
57:26And I would agree to an extent about like top three upside, right?
57:30Like, but you can make the exact same argument for Jake Ferguson where he doesn't have top three upside either unless an injury occurs.
57:37Well, the same thing with Terrence Ferguson. If an injury occurs to Pukunakua or Devante Adams, we could see a lot more upside for Terrence Ferguson.
57:45Now I know that there's seems like there's too many mouths to feed a tight end in LA, but I'm just going
57:52with the player that I like last year doubled up the rest of the position in slot rate, which is really predictive
57:59or pretty predictive for later round tight end breakouts.
58:02He had an a dot that was six yards higher than any other tight end in football last year.
58:08They move them all over the formation. He's kind of their de facto or he could be their de facto wide receiver three.
58:15So if you get like a 15 or 16% target share, which is in his range of outcomes, if that happens for
58:22Terrence Ferguson, he can definitely pay off and be like a fringe top 10 tight end this year.
58:27So I think these are good stash. See how they deploy that tight end room and specifically him in week one and then kind of go from there.
58:36Okay. And then last we have the defenses. I would also, before you get on, on these during the season, we have our look ahead waiver wire.
58:44So make sure you tune into that show because it's a, we have way where our stashes now, but it looks ahead to the following week.
58:52So you can get ahead of those that save some fab on your, in your league.
58:57Yeah. So with defenses right now, it's really hard to find ones with like, obviously good mat, like good defensive with obviously
59:04good matchups because everyone was drafting for that in their draft.
59:07So I had the Cowboys against the giants and the Cowboys defense could be a little bit better this year.
59:13The bills against the Texans because the Texans offensive line, we don't know if that's going to look, you know, incredibly improved.
59:20And then I do have the Packers against the Vikings, which I'm not like a hundred percent sold on, but they do
59:27get the jets and the Falcons in weeks two and three.
59:30If you don't have, you know, if you have like transaction limits or something like that within your league, but there's a huge drop to these defenses.
59:39They're all 26% or lower. Every other defense is like all the ones that are, that are like usable are 50% or higher right now over on Yahoo.
59:47So it's just a really difficult position pre week one to call out and say, this defense is going to be great as streamers.
59:55Whereas, you know, people aren't thinking about week two right now.
59:58They're only thinking about week one. So after week one is over, we should have more options for defenses.
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