0:00Alright, big show for you here today. It is the Week 6 preview show, but before we get into that, we have
0:07to truly put on our big boy pants and slog through a Thursday night solo recap.
0:11Broncos-Seahawks, an abysmal game for the ages. A humiliating performance by the Denver Broncos offense and their quarterback, and yet they win the football game.
0:19It's a thing that happened. I beat myself up for Jalen Waddell, but at least I talk about how awesome Jackson Smith is.
0:26So there's balance in all things. Also, then, it's Josh Norris and the rest of the Week 6 preview.
0:32We have a ton of great stuff there. We do have to talk about the unfortunate Jalen Hurts news and what that
0:38might mean for the rest of the Eagles season.
0:41We talk about the Panthers offense, the return of Caleb Williams, and we take your questions in the Toyota Fantasy Mailbag hotline.
0:48All that and more come up on today's show.
0:51Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast Nightcap.
0:55And it is a hell of a night to talk ball.
0:58Man, of all the football games of all time, that was one of them.
1:03A Thursday night special. Broncos 17. Seahawks 14. I mean, yeah, it had to go to overtime, right?
1:08Why not? Why not? Somebody had to win the game.
1:11It ended up being the Denver Broncos after a disturbing offensive performance.
1:15Let's just leave it that way. I guess before we get negative here, and we're going to get negative, we're going to have fun here tonight.
1:23I try to be positive sometimes. I try to keep it simple.
1:26We're not going to do that. We're going to be mean tonight.
1:30We're going to be mean. I see you guys in the YouTube chat, by the way.
1:35Shout out to the YouTube chat. Jalen Waddle is deep fried.
1:38I played Jalen Waddle tonight just to feel something on a Thursday.
1:42C.K. Kennedy didn't feel much. Beautiful stuff. Beautiful stuff.
1:44At least you can make excuses for Cam with it being year two.
1:48I'm assuming Cam Ward. O-line sucks. Coaches suck. Bo Nix is just straight up.
1:52I'm not going to read that. Okay. Here we go.
1:56Positive before we get into the misery of it all.
1:59I thought Nick Benito was awesome in this game.
2:01Denver Broncos defense put a ton of pressure on Sam Darnold.
2:05It really was seriously electric game from Nick Benito.
2:07Several inside spin moves to whip around the tackles.
2:10You got Charles Cross, at least on one of those sacks.
2:13They harassed Sam Darnold all night. Did the Denver Broncos.
2:16I thought that was really legitimately impressive. This defense is missing its best player in Patrick Sertan.
2:22Nick Benito, who's probably their second best player, stepped up immensely in this one.
2:26I thought that was super impressive. Seahawks defense definitely, of course, always has its moments.
2:30It's really tough to play against. Kind of hard to tell what's the Seahawks defense versus what's the Broncos offense.
2:36That's a little difficult to pull apart here. But two good defenses.
2:40Got to acknowledge that. There's no doubt. There's a couple of really big individual performances to talk about, too, including Jackson Smith-Nijigba.
2:47But we will get to all that. But we have to start, as we always do, on the team that somehow won the game.
2:54Because for the most part, unless you tie, unless your quarterback forgets that the clock is going to expire in overtime to
3:01kick the field goal, somebody's got to win the game.
3:04That was what happened tonight with the Denver Broncos.
3:06They won the game. Bo Nix, man, it's just so tough to watch.
3:10It is so, so tough to watch. Right now, results are probably still rolling in.
3:15And yet, Bo Nix, this is here from Robert Mays.
3:18As of right now, True Media has Bo Nix with 1.2 air yards per completion and zero completed passes beyond the sticks.
3:24The Broncos are winning by two scores. I believe that was at some point early in the fourth quarter.
3:30Mays tweeted that out. On the night, Bo Nix averages 3.9 air yards per attempt.
3:35That is not even Bo Nix's lowest air yards per attempt game of the season.
3:39163 qualifying quarterbacks. He's got the 155th, that was tonight, and the 157th.
3:43By the way, if you're wanting to talk about the other quarterback in this game, Sam Darnold, 4.1 air yards per attempt.
3:50So, not a lot of successful downfield passing in this one.
3:53For the Broncos, I mean almost no. No downfield passing whatsoever.
3:56It's just so tough to watch this offense right now.
4:00And you can't tell me for a single second that Sean Payton, Davis Webb, I don't care who's calling the plays.
4:06It's Sean Payton right now. He doesn't trust this quarterback as far as he can freaking throw him, man.
4:12That final drive in overtime, Bo Nix just booting out.
4:15By the way, you know who doesn't trust Bo Nix?
4:18Bo Nix. Does not trust his mobility whatsoever right now.
4:21This is a guy who, say what you want about Bo Nix.
4:24He certainly is someone that was a dangerous runner, an effective runner at times in his career, in his first two years.
4:31I mean, he just has nothing from a mobility standpoint at all right now.
4:35He's just giving himself up, running out of bounds.
4:38It's so brutal to watch this team and this quarterback right now.
4:42And, like, I... Man, the waddle thing is one of the most frustrating misses of my...
4:46Maybe of my entire career doing this professionally. Because I feel like...
4:50You know, I feel like from a process standpoint about the role that he's playing in the offense, I think we got that one right.
4:58You know, he's playing... He's moving all around the formation.
5:01He's running these big vertical routes. And it just is...
5:04It just does not matter whatsoever. I mean, waddle comes out here actually leading the team in targets.
5:09Seven catches. He leads the team in catches with four.
5:12Seven targets, four catches, 24 yards. And it makes it even more frustrating actually watching on Thursday night.
5:18Because Sam Schwartstein does a great job with the Thursday night football next-gen stats broadcast.
5:22You can see there are open players down the field even when you're watching the game.
5:27And Bo Nix is just dirt in these plays.
5:30I joked with my producers that, you know, they finally had Jalen Waddle run the little swing route out of the backfield.
5:36And that got him a target because that's all Bo Nix throws.
5:40The check down, the swing routes and all that.
5:43It's just... I really wish I had put more emphasis when talking about Waddle on the...
5:47Just the risks of Bo Nix playing with this style.
5:50I really thought he would elevate his game with the arrival of Waddle.
5:54He's gotten worse. He's gotten regressed. I don't know how much of it is just like he's coming back from these ankle
6:01injuries that there was clearly some tension between him and the team about that.
6:05I don't know. I really don't know about that part of it.
6:09But, yeah, very frustrated. Very mad at myself on this Waddle thing.
6:13I'm like pissed off at myself more than I normally am about the Waddle call this offseason.
6:18But, you know, we'll see what happens over the course of the season.
6:22Of course, he also had a trip into the locker room early tonight.
6:26Stayed in there a little bit after halftime. Did Jalen Waddle as well with a shoulder injury.
6:31That's like exactly what this Jalen Waddle season needs is a little bit of an injury scare here.
6:36But, yeah, I mean, nothing is going right. Nothing is happening for the Denver Broncos passing game.
6:41I don't really know when it's going to either.
6:44The schedule doesn't lighten up for them at any time here in the next few weeks.
6:49It's just going to be really tough. I don't really know what to say.
6:53Like, I don't like talking about this team. I don't like watching this team.
6:57It's just bad football. It's really, really bad football.
7:00And I think anyone arguing otherwise is just out of their mind.
7:04I mean, R.J. Harvey ran nine routes tonight. R.J.
7:06Harvey ran nine routes tonight. He got four targets, three catches, 31 yards.
7:10I mean, look at this passing chart, man. It's just – I know Seattle's a great defense, but this is what it's looked like all year.
7:18Like I said, this is not Bo Nix's first game under four air yards per pass attempt.
7:23Shoot, the game against the Chargers that they just won, 4.5 air yards per pass attempt for Bo Nix.
7:29So, I really just – I don't even – I don't know what to say about this team.
7:35It's really bad. It's absolutely brutal. I don't know.
7:37Don't like watching this team. Don't like talking about this team.
7:41That's that. From a Jalen Waddle perspective, that's why the entire offense is in the coping corner.
7:46I don't know. It's just really bad football and not sure when it gets better.
7:50The quarterback just has to play better. It's that simple.
7:53It's usually not that simple. And yet, in this case, it actually is that simple.
7:58So, what a frustrating game to watch. What a frustrating situation here.
8:01I got nixed. Yeah. DB2EZ said that in the chat.
8:04You got nixed. Yep, that's right. Yep. I was high on Waddell.
8:08I told you guys to take him. I was wrong.
8:11And like I said, I'm pissed off at myself about it.
8:14Okay. Let's go to the team that lost the game, the Seattle Seahawks.
8:18Number one, this is where we at least get to have some fun as a wide receiver analyst here.
8:24Jackson Smith and Jigba. What a stud, man. Unbelievable player.
8:27He's about eight minutes left in the fourth quarter.
8:30He's sitting on seven catches for 75 yards in what has felt like a quiet game all night.
8:35He goes on to finish 16 targets, 12 catches, 134 yards.
8:39He was electric in this game. What a good player.
8:42This is what elite wide receiver play looks like.
8:44It looks like Jackson Smith and Jigba. The throw that Sam Donovan made to him where he's got a defender, got his arms on him.
8:52He still lays out and catches it. Great player.
8:55He also has the type of catch technique that people get on draft prospects about, but he pulls it off, man.
9:01He pulls it off every single time because he's so good.
9:04He's so talented. Just an incredible player is Jackson Smith and Jigba as elite as it gets.
9:09There's levels to this thing. You can quantify this as what I try to do.
9:14There's levels to this thing, and JSN is at the elite level.
9:18So what a great player. What a great fantasy draft pick.
9:21And yeah, I think the Broncos actually did do a pretty good job keeping him in check early in the game, but
9:28you can't keep an elite player down the entire game.
9:31That's what it is. That's Jackson Smith and Jigba.
9:33The problem for Seattle is that basically nothing else went right here for them.
9:38Sam Darnold is Nate and I talked about this in the preview.
9:41He's just not seeing it well right now. He's not comfortable.
9:45Both of his picks were egregious. First of all, on the one where he throws to Torrey Horton, I could not believe
9:51Kirk Herbstreit was blaming the receiver on that. Is it the best route in the world?
9:56Maybe not. But I mean, Sam is sitting there staring at it, staring at it, and pitter-pattering his feet, which he was doing all night.
10:04Had happy feet in the pocket all night. Not sure what's going on there.
10:08He's sitting there staring at the route. The route is open.
10:11Throw the ball. Throw the ball. And then, oh, he's got to drift that route.
10:16That's a lazy route. Where is he supposed to go?
10:19Yeah, he's drifting the route because the quarterback's holding on the ball for three seconds.
10:23You've got to get rid of that thing, man.
10:26So I thought that was terrible. And then obviously the pick in overtime is even worse.
10:31I have no idea what he's thinking of throwing that ball.
10:34This is the Sam Darnold that does. He rears his ugly head every now and again.
10:39It hasn't really happened consistently in Seattle. Obviously, you've got to wonder he's coming back from the weird glute injury.
10:45Is that part of this that he's just not comfortable?
10:48But, man, they were really able to rattle him all night long.
10:52I thought that was a really impressive game, as I mentioned earlier, up front for the Denver Broncos here.
10:57Ultimately, 3.69 adjusted yards per attempt in this game for Sam Darnold.
11:01Not a good night. By the way, Bo Nix, 3.96.
11:04He was hit 15 times in this game, was Sam Darnold.
11:07And I really don't know how much. I guess I have to do a deeper dive into some of the protection rules and everything.
11:15I don't really know how much to put on Brian Flory.
11:18I thought Flory had been calling it pretty good early on in the season, especially when Drew Locke was in there.
11:24So I really just don't know how much to put on the Brian Flory of it all.
11:30I know that's like an easy Twitter narrative, and I'm sure we'll see that.
11:34I mean, I already did see some of it.
11:36But to me, good Lord. To me, I just think this is a Sam Darnold thing.
11:41Five sacks in this one. Again, hit 15 times.
11:44The sack yards, he was just 38 yards on his sacks.
11:47Just not good enough, obviously, from a game tonight with Sam Darnold.
11:51That's got to disturb you if you're a Seahawks fan.
11:54I guess it doesn't really matter for Jackson Smith and Jigba because he just is immune to some of the chaos that
12:01Sam Darnold is playing with at this point. He's just so good.
12:04It doesn't really matter. So there is that. The other thing I would say about the Seahawks offense, I think we're reaching
12:11a little bit of an inflection point of we're starting to see that it's just not good when this team doesn't have another guy.
12:18Like Torrey Horton, he had the one catch. He's not really involved that much in the offense.
12:23I actually would like to see more of Torrey Horton.
12:26You guys know from the draft process that I did like Torrey Horton.
12:30But, you know, AJ Barner runs the second most routes on this team, 31 routes, 30 routes for Cooper Cup.
12:36You know, Cup is who he is at this point.
12:39He doesn't get a lot of effective catches down the football field.
12:43That's troubling. You know, Rashid Shahi is going to make a play every now and again.
12:48He leads the team with 107 air yards here.
12:51He was getting the vertical looks down through. He made a great play to get the two-point conversion.
12:56But he's an up-and-down player that's not a consistent starter for this football team.
13:00He was out there for 20 routes, which is, you know, again, 10 fewer than Cooper Cup, 13 fewer than Jackson Smith and Jigba.
13:07If Torrey Horton's just a guy that you can't really get out there for every route, I think they're running into a
13:14little bit of a trouble spot with that, especially because their run game is just not good at this point.
13:20George Alani, shout out, suddenly became the hot hand late in this one, and I certainly didn't see that coming.
13:26That's why they went to him late in the game.
13:29You know, it's not like Emmanuel Wilson was really giving him anything.
13:33He's the ultimate plotter back. You know, big lower body can just hit the holes that are there.
13:38He reads things out pretty well. But when you're a back like that, you're going to be susceptible to other guys kind
13:45of nipping at your heels, including Valus Jones. How about that?
13:48Valus Jones. Valus Jones actually got me like a little juice at one point in this game on his five touches.
13:55Because nobody else is doing much. He carries the ball four times for 20 yards.
13:59And yeah, he gave him a little something. Remember old Valus Jones, a converted wide receiver out of Tennessee, an older process.
14:06He's 29 years old right now. He's been in the league not that long.
14:1029 years old. So, yeah, that's the state of the Seahawks run game.
14:14They desperately need Zach Charbonnet back. Jerry Price, they need him back.
14:18They just don't have a lot of juice right now.
14:21It's the entire thing revolves around Jackson Smith and Jigba.
14:24And they just need some other guys to either be consistently utilized, if you want to say it like that, or they need other players to step up.
14:32Because at this point, I think we're running a little bit out of rope here on this version of the Seattle offense.
14:39Because this is not just a this week thing.
14:42This is what it's felt like really each of the last few weeks, which has been Sam Darnold playing in chaos as Sam Darnold does want to do.
14:50It's also, I think, a lack of a consistent second playmaker here.
14:54So, I see something in the YouTube chat from Anthony.
14:57What are we doing with Charbonnet? I haven't been on IR depth, but is it worth it at this point?
15:03Yeah, I mean, I think it's worth it just to see because there's no question that they need something else in the run game.
15:10It's not going to be Emmanuel Wilson. He's just able to hit the hole if it's there.
15:15That is absolutely it. They got to get better than that.
15:18I don't know if it's going to be Charbonnet coming off an ACL tear, but you might as well do it just to find out here.
15:26So, man, that's insane. What an insane game tonight.
15:29I think that's all we got here. I, man, at least it's a long week until we got to watch the Broncos offense again.
15:36What a tough, what a tough one at this point.
15:39All right, that's going to do it for the Thursday Night Football Nightcap.
15:43Did we learn anything from this one? I don't know.
15:46Maybe we made some friends along the way. Maybe we made some friends along the way.
15:51All right, that's going to do it for this one.
15:54I'll check you guys all out in the next video.
15:57All right, that's going to do it for our Thursday Night Nightcap.
16:01Now, on to Josh Norris and the rest of the Week 6 preview.
16:05Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
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16:21And it is a hell of a day to talk ball.
16:24Week 6 NFL. We got Josh Norris in the house.
16:27Josh, what's going on, buddy? Well, I'm ready to talk about things I'm not qualified for.
16:32Like, you know, medical issues, blood clots, all that type of stuff.
16:36I will say, Matt, I can't tell if the season is going slow or fast.
16:40Like, is it good that Week 6 is already here?
16:43Or is it bad that it's only Week 6 started here?
16:47Do you get what I'm saying? I totally get what you're saying.
16:50I was going to say, you're ready to talk about things you're unqualified for.
16:55Isn't that what we do every day? From our little home offices.
16:58You ready to break down why this offensive lineman's not, you know, getting the push he needs in the run game?
17:05Right? Are you ready to talk about that? We're real qualified to do that.
17:09So, nevertheless. I'm really ready to guess for the 17th time why Colson Loveland isn't getting receptions and targets in his direction.
17:15So. I wrote a piece about that. I might not be qualified to do it, but I wrote a piece about that.
17:22So, we will talk about that. We will have some strong opinions potentially about Colson Loveland and his lack of receptions.
17:28We also will be talking about some things we aren't qualified for.
17:32But we'll also be doing all of our usual things here on the preview show.
17:37We've got Josh's six-pack fantasy questions. We've got my three games that no one cares about.
17:41And Toyota fantasy hotline questions is how we wrap it all up.
17:45But before we get to that, Josh teased it a little bit.
17:49We do have some bad news here in fantasy fall.
17:52Jalen Hurts has been ruled out Sunday due to a superficial blood clot.
17:56The team announced there was a long statement that came from Jalen Hurts.
18:00Obviously, this is a really serious situation. And I'm just wishing Jalen the best.
18:04Number one. Hopefully, everything goes smoothly and well for him.
18:07This is super scary, Josh. And obviously, yes, he will miss this game against the Panthers.
18:12And I mean, potentially much more than this. Yeah.
18:14So in these circumstances, I try to listen to every single video out there from insiders that have maybe more information than I do.
18:22And what Ian Rappaport was reporting on this was quite staggering in that they found this blood clot prior to last week.
18:28He mentioned that he had like calf soreness and apparently blood clots.
18:32That's where it typically starts is calf soreness. And then it works its way up.
18:37Now, the issue is when blood clots then go into different organs or different areas of the body, especially lungs and so on and so forth.
18:44And so in order to prevent this, players go on blood thinners.
18:48But obviously, you cannot play a contact sport where there are multiple car wrecks per game with blood thinners.
18:54So it just depends on how long that that Jalen Hurts is going to remain on blood thinners.
18:59And if this blood clot moves into different areas for how long he's going to be sidelined.
19:04And that's scary. I mean, I really hope everything's OK with Jalen Hurts.
19:08This has been a difficult season for him. It's been a difficult season at large.
19:13And we'll talk about this with the Philadelphia Eagles.
19:16But this is one of the circumstances that we rarely see.
19:19Albeit, there are a couple of recent examples of like Christian Barmore.
19:22And even the opposite side in the Panthers and Taylor Moten, who's just coming back this week after dealing with blood clots,
19:29I think starting in May or June of this past year.
19:32I yeah, I feel like it was June. I think it was around then.
19:37So, I mean, this is the thing that could be present for Jalen for multiple months.
19:42Season ending. I mean, it could be the end of the season.
19:45And, you know, again, the priority here is, of course, Jalen's health and his well-being and his future and all of that.
19:52It just is going to hang this dark cloud over a season in Philadelphia that it feels like is over.
19:58It's October 15th. It's week six. And it just feels like it's been one disaster after another for the Eagles.
20:04And obviously, again, this situation is is completely different.
20:07But you do get this with teams sometimes, Josh, where they come in with a certain goal, a certain level of promise.
20:13And it's just very apparent very early that it's not going to go that way.
20:18This is an extreme turn. But I would I mean, I guess I could argue that their Hall of Fame right tackle
20:24deciding three games into the season that it was in his best interest to retire from the game of football is also a pretty big, severe left turn.
20:33So I feel like we've gotten multiple of these for the Philadelphia Eagles so far.
20:37I tried to list out everything that's happened to this team before the start of week six, and I'm not even sure if I covered it all.
20:46And this is just an offense. The Lane Johnson retirement, Landon Dickerson went to injury reserve for a period of time, and
20:52now he's back, but he might not be starting on the team.
20:56Cam Juergens was traded their starting center and then left guard.
20:59The Jalen Hurts blood clots, as we just talked about.
21:02Saquon Barkley has missed a full game and then three quarters and two other games.
21:07He's going to miss this week as well. Devontae Smith missed last week, and he's missing practice right now and is probably out of week six.
21:15Dallas Goddard missed two games. And then Matt, their backup center in Drew Kendall, is going to miss at least one game
21:21as he did last week and maybe even this one, too.
21:25So, like, look, windows to win, as you know, covering the league for so long are real.
21:30And the Eagles won a lot in this window.
21:33And this window seems like it's over. You know, they tried to bring everyone back and it just isn't working out right now.
21:39And when that's the case, someone like Howie Roseman isn't going to do this in small steps.
21:45He's going to, like, hit the reset button over multiple off seasons.
21:48And I think by the end of the 2028 offseason, we'll see, like, a totally new roster here.
21:54I'll be at, you know, maybe three or four locked in roster spots of guys already on the team right now.
22:00So, yeah, none of us could have predicted this level of this slipping away from a franchise that has been one of
22:07the steadiest over the last, you know, 10 years plus.
22:10But here we are. And it's not even week six.
22:13Hasn't even kicked off yet. I think everything you said there is true.
22:17The only two things I would add to that long list of, you know, kind of miserable things happening to this offense.
22:23You could also say, hey, their first round pick of Makai Lemon basically barely practiced this offseason.
22:28Their second round pick in Eli Stowers is just was a complete non-factor in the offseason and is probably going to be a complete non-factor this season.
22:37So those are obviously much more minor issues. But it's just where we've gotten to this point now.
22:42Again, we're looking at the depth chart here if you're watching with us along on YouTube.
22:47And if you are, shout out to you. Subscribe to the channel.
22:51We've got Markel Bell. You know, we've got Willie Lampkin.
22:54We've got Darius Cooper. Damian Pierce. Carson Steele. I mean, this is not what we bargained for with the Philadelphia Eagles offense.
23:00So, yeah, we'll see how it goes. I didn't even mention.
23:04And obviously. Tank Bigsby and Will Shipley on there.
23:06Yeah. Like when we're ahead of week six and Damian Pierce and Carson Steele are listed in the backfield with Tanner McKee.
23:13You know, something has gone wrong. Like the Panthers this weekend are facing the Philadelphia Eagles backups.
23:18That's what's happening. And we're not even, you know, done with a third of the season yet left.
23:23So, like it's crazy what's happening to this Philadelphia Eagles team.
23:27Yeah. It's a preseason roster is what we're looking at right now on the screen for the Philadelphia Eagles.
23:33So, you mentioned the Panthers. That's a good transition from a tough subject to our usual proceedings here on the preview show.
23:39Let's get into Josh's six pack of questions. All right, Josh.
23:43Question number one. We're staying in that game. We're going to the other side of the field here.
23:48Carolina coming off its bye. Yep. The Panthers have the second most fantasy.
23:52I'll call it fruitful offense in the NFL through five weeks.
23:55But are projected for only 21 points against the Eagles this week.
23:59So, Matt, should we trust their pieces less? Or is the market wrong?
24:03Now, when I wrote this question, you know, the Panthers were one-and-a-half point underdogs.
24:07And now they're three-and-a-half point favorites. So, maybe that changes some things here based on the injury news.
24:12But the Panthers do have the quarterback three in Bryce Young.
24:16They're running back six in Chuba Hubbard. And the wide receiver 10-and-11 in Ted Romic Millen and Jalen Coker.
24:22So, Matt, the markets think that this offense will either slog it out or struggle against Vic Fangio's defense.
24:27What do you think? I think maybe a little bit of a slog is in order here.
24:32This defense does feel like it's kind of starting to come back around a little bit in Philadelphia.
24:38I think they played a pretty good game. They gave up two, obviously, massive plays to Parker Washington against Jacksonville on the
24:45other side of the pond there last week. But what are you going to do about that?
24:50I mean, even the one long 50-plus yard touchdown or the long touchdown catch, the one-handed one for Parker Washington.
24:56That was a play where Josh Cameron runs Quinion Mitchell on the sacrificial route.
25:00And then Parker Washington runs the go route off motion.
25:03And, I mean, he's well covered. It's just a great throw from Trevor.
25:07It's a great catch from Parker Washington. There's really no defense for that.
25:11But otherwise, I felt like that was a pretty clean game from them.
25:15I think the front played really well against the run, got after it there.
25:19So I think that it's probably going to be a bit of a slog here.
25:24But I still generally do want to trust the Panthers' offense.
25:27And I could see them clearing 21 points, but it might feel like a little bit of a slog.
25:33For the Eagles defense, it's all about if they create pressure or not.
25:37This is from the Great Ritchie Bar. When the Eagles have gotten pressure, they've allowed a 34% completion rate, which is second best in the NFL.
25:444.6 yards per attempt without a touchdown pass allowed.
25:47Without pressure, they're 20th in the league at completion rate at 73%.
25:51And then 24th in yards per attempt. So I feel like in previous years with Dave Canales calling plays, they might focus
25:57in, hey, all you have to do is play really good defense and run the football.
26:02And, you know, we can win in a one-score game here.
26:06But with Brad Isik calling plays this year, and that's been the conversation this summer and through the first five weeks, I want the Panthers to be aggressive.
26:14Immediately. And I understand that could be pretty difficult against Vic Fangio and Quinion Mitchell and Tariq Woolen and Zach Bond and all these pieces.
26:22But I don't want them to just like go in their shell a little bit and just, you know, try to get
26:28first downs and success rate and grind this thing out.
26:31The reason it feels different this year is because they've attacked every single blade of grass under center, empty, different formations, different personnel groupings.
26:39And I put the pedal to the floor in the first quarter.
26:42And so it sounds like Taylor Moten is going to come back in here at right tackle for Monroe Freeling.
26:48And that could elite and Damian Lewis getting back at left guard.
26:52And so if they can protect Bryce and they haven't done a great job of doing that so far this season, I
26:59would say the Panthers easily top that 21 point total that's projected for them here.
27:03Yeah, we know this team is super concentrated in the first two weeks when we had these receivers healthy.
27:09They were the one, two, three, four, five, six most target concentrated offense between their top two guys.
27:14So very much like any of the top duos in the NFL that you think of there, that was going to Jalen Coker.
27:21It was going to Tedrow McMillan. Getting Coker back obviously is huge.
27:25They could they could slice and dice the Lions with just Tedrow McMillan moving around and all of that.
27:31But I do think this is a nice spot for Coker as well, who I expect to come back and run the most routes out of the slot.
27:39Zane is pointing out here. Philadelphia allows a 22 percent target per route slot receiver second most and is definitely better against the outside receivers.
27:47We know the teams pretty much just try to avoid Quinion Mitchell on that left side.
27:51Like I mentioned, Josh Cameron running the sacrificial route over there last week.
27:55And then Parker Washington gets the big play as the movement guy.
27:59I think we'll probably see some of that here.
28:02And that's where you kind of want to get this team.
28:05Even going back to the Bears game in week three, that was where they tried to attack this team over the middle of the field.
28:13Get yourself against the linebackers. Get your matchups against the safeties.
28:16So I think it's good to get Coker back in here.
28:19Of course, as we know, he's a really good player.
28:22So, yeah, I mean, it's crazy, Josh. I do feel pretty confident about this Panthers team coming off by and actually wonder
28:29if they'll make any sort of tweaks and changes here.
28:32But Matt, you know, just when confidence hits, it comes crashing down with a performance for the Panthers, you know, like just
28:39just when they're favorites in a contest. What their most recent one against the Atlanta Falcons is the last one they've had as favorites.
28:46I think their last dozen. That's that's pretty tough.
28:49I will add. Any quarterback is worse against pressure.
28:51Bryce Young has actually been excellent against pressure this season.
28:54He ranks about 15th in a bunch of these categories and then top 10 when when not pressured.
29:00Luke Fortner is the name I want to mention here.
29:03He's the new center for the team this year, and he kind of gets pushed back way too often.
29:09And we know that, you know, the Eagles have a Jomo.
29:12They have, you know, Jordan Davis. They have a bunch of names.
29:16Jalen Carter. I could go on and on and on.
29:19Yeah. Jalen Carter. Interior galore. So that's something that they need to be wary of.
29:23I'm sure they are. But with how they started, I do wonder if just the markets are not giving the Panthers enough
29:30love based on how good this offense has been from weeks one through through week four.
29:35There's always a team that it takes a little bit for the markets to catch up.
29:39It takes like general consensus a little bit longer to catch up.
29:43And a team that took people by surprise in the first four weeks and has a buy in week five is definitely a good candidate for that.
29:51So this will be a good proving ground game for the Carolina Panthers.
29:55Okay, let's get to your second question here of week six.
29:58Yeah. I mean, we talked about it a hundred times in a hundred different shows, but can you the general people out there start Marvin Harrison Jr.
30:07In his debut with the Houston Texans. Greg Cosell used this amazing term when talking about Marv's time in Arizona.
30:13I know exactly what you're going to say. He called it uninspired, which is just perfect.
30:18You know, that has a negative connotation to it and it should, but it's not crushing him.
30:23It's not calling him bad. It's just uninspired. And that's perfect.
30:26He was a half step too slow. He was not consistent in tight window targets.
30:31He had some stupid mental drops. He didn't break tackles after the catch and he may never do that.
30:36And then I pointed out, you know, a bunch of poor blocking effort moments that he had starting this year.
30:42So Hayden getting, oh, I just called you Hayden.
30:45So Matt getting back to, hey, we're one-to-one now.
30:48You're guilty of it too. You're guilty of it too.
30:51So getting back with his college quarterback, would that make Marvin Harrison Jr.
30:55look inspired here in week six? There's something funny about we're talking about, oh yeah, you're getting back with this comfortable person and you call me Hayden.
31:03There's some like synergy there. But no, this is also hilarious, Josh, because you and I are completely on the same page of this.
31:10I just recorded Football 301 with Nate and I brought up the Greg Cosell quote.
31:15So we are literally reading off the same sheet of music here because I thought that was perfect.
31:20One, because I loved the point that Greg made leading into it is that I never want to try to get into someone's head.
31:27And I tried not to do that too. Obviously, the social media armchair psychologists have been diagnosing Marvin Harrison's routes for the
31:34last like three years or whatever, trying to read this, that, and the other into it.
31:39Okay, that's fine. But I just love that the reality of it is uninspired.
31:43There's no question. And this year, there's probably like hints of it the first couple of years.
31:48This year, it's been pretty much cranked up to 11.
31:51I think we can all now at this point that he's no longer on the football team.
31:56And I think he was pretty classy about how he handled it when asked.
32:01He's like, you know, I'm just going to leave that behind.
32:04I think that, you know, just not speak on that.
32:07Obviously, we know that there was a lot going on there.
32:10And let's just put it that way. So, I mean, Josh, as a clip guy yourself, what have you thought about the
32:17clips so far out of Marvin Harrison as a Houston Texan and some of the practice reps?
32:22Yeah. I mean, the practice reps from training camp with the Cardinals were horrific.
32:26Again, talk about the mental drops and, you know, jogging and all that stuff.
32:31And now it's kind of he might be moving a half speed faster.
32:34He's firing off that ball. I still would move on from the black cleats here, Marv.
32:39Like, I think those aesthetically slow you down. But that's just my two cents on this game, Matt, against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
32:46We talk all the time and you have as well in stats for this film that the Texans should just become a
32:53pass first oriented team and lean into it even more so than they have.
32:57You have to do that against the Jaguars. I think the leading rusher against them has gone for less than 40 yards so far in every single game.
33:05And here's a great stat from Reeves. Jacksonville is one of two teams, the other being Green Bay, to score first in every single game this season.
33:14So that's probably going to happen again here. And if that happens, then you're working from behind and you're throwing the football.
33:20So I'm low key excited to see what will happen here.
33:23But it's not like this Jaguars defense is untalented.
33:26It's very talented and they're extremely talented at one of the cornerback positions.
33:30That's for sure. Honestly, I think Anthony Campanile is emerging as one of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL to just straight up.
33:37I mean, if you look at their weekly game plans, they're very, very different.
33:42You know, this is typically the sign of a good defensive coaches.
33:45We don't just come out here and run our system.
33:48Houston kind of does that right. And they have the talent to get away with it.
33:53But Jacksonville, I think, is very talented and yet they kind of run a lot of coverage this week one way and
34:00then they kind of flip it around. The only thing they do consistently is they're one of the highest like press rate teams in the NFL.
34:08They will come out and put their cornerbacks on the line of scrimmage and get physical with receivers.
34:13This is a big and talented group of receivers now in Houston with Marvin Harrison there.
34:18I think the answer to your question is probably no.
34:21I don't think that I would feel confident in starting Marvin Harrison Jr.
34:25in the first game as a Houston Texan. I mean, he might come out here and run 50% of the routes and
34:32that's obviously just not going to be good enough.
34:34And 50% might be overshooting. It might take a couple weeks until he's a full-time player.
34:39Even if he knows the quarterback, he doesn't necessarily know the offense.
34:43And it is kind of a complicated offense. But nevertheless, again, I think Nico Collins can get out there and beat press coverage.
34:50I think Jalen Knoll can get out there and beat press coverage as a slot receiver.
34:55He's been smoking man coverage the last two weeks here on tape.
34:58So this all kind of comes back to even if Marv is a part-time player, okay, then Xavier Hutchinson is a part-time player.
35:05Keyshawn Booty, part-time player. That's what those guys should be.
35:08They should be part-time players. So I think it's going to be a fascinating kind of cat and mouse game with this
35:15Texans offense versus the Jacksonville Jaguars secondary because they can mix coverages so much.
35:19But they'll do a lot of things where they show single high pre-snap, rotate to too high post-snap, and that's going to
35:26leave those voids in the middle of the field.
35:28And CJ Stroud is one of the best middle-of-the-field passers in the NFL.
35:32And we've talked a lot about what do we expect Nico Collins' role to be and Marv's role to be when they
35:39are full-time players, the latter in this offense eventually.
35:42But specifically for this matchup, Nico has gone over 100 yards receiving in five of his last six games against Jacksonville, including each of the last four.
35:50So he kind of has their number here a little bit.
35:53And sure, you know, there's some different pieces on the defense and Campanile hasn't always coached in the last six games for this defense as well.
36:01So yeah, I'm excited to see what happens. And I would use this week despite, I mean, truly horrific.
36:07If you have anything after like the running back 17 or I don't know, the wide receiver 25 this week is Jalen Waddle, according to consensus rankings.
36:15Like, you know, people are looking for scraps at the flex spot, Matt.
36:19So that's why I wanted to bring up Marv's name specifically, even if it's a difficult matchup just because of the capital
36:26they gave up and the comfort he has with the quarterback.
36:29Yeah. I mean, there's definitely a chance that he comes out and has a great game.
36:34Just because of the familiarity with CJ Stroud, I think that really does matter.
36:38And honestly, Josh, I think that really matters in just the prognosis of this trade going forward.
36:43Um, I don't know that I would be like, I'm very excited and very open to a Marv revival, which I might've
36:50been regardless, but I'm much more open to it with this particular situation here in Houston.
36:55Completely agree. Uh, I, I hope I get to eat my words about Marvin Harrison Jr.
36:59Now those words were extremely correct over the last three years.
37:03Uh, but if he goes and does well here and we watch the tape and we see this role and him looking
37:09good, then I am readily, readily able to say, Oh, this situation is so much better than last.
37:15And now he can play, he can play at a high level.
37:18So I hope that happens here for sure. It's an Island game too.
37:22Cause it's the standalone, uh, Sunday morning game, you know, over there in, in London.
37:27So people will be definitely, uh, ready to fire off their take cannons.
37:31My only prediction is that this will be the first film I turn on Monday morning is the Marvin Harrison Jr.
37:37Film, uh, to chart that one, cause if he's, you know, not a full-time player, it'll be pretty quick.
37:43Get through that really, uh, breezy on a Monday morning, but either way, I'm very fascinated to see how it turns out.
37:50Any thoughts on Jacksonville in this game and just going against the, uh, the Texans defense.
37:54It's interesting. Um, I mean, I think the one name to talk about with Jacksonville is Basial Tootin, uh, cause Basial Tootin
38:01has been awesome this season and yet his fancy stats have not been awesome.
38:05And so look, your favorite fancy analysts, including us are just going to call him a buy low for, you know, as long as possible.
38:13He's handled 76 and 89% of the backfield touches over the last two weeks, but you know, his longest runs have been called back.
38:20They aren't running the ball well inside the 10 yard line.
38:23And that's underselling that they've been horrific inside the 10 yard line outside of like the one wildcat touchdown that he had a couple of weeks ago.
38:32And I also want to add that Anton Harrison is now missing.
38:35He moved over from right tackle to left tackle.
38:38And I think their best offensive lineman so far, Walker Little's coming in and Matt, this is not the game that you
38:45want your backup left tackle to come in against, uh, Will Anderson and Danell Hunter.
38:49No, it is not. And getting Aziz Alshay your back last week, it was the Titans obviously, but, uh, that definitely helps
38:56settle down some of those linebackers and coverage and the issues they'd had up the spine so far.
39:01Okay. Let's get to your third question here. Speaking about another player coming back from injury.
39:06I saw Caleb Williams. He's back. Uh, the bears are projected for 26 points this week.
39:11Very nice on the road as favorites against the Atlanta Falcons.
39:14So Matt, I have to ask this question for the sixth straight week.
39:18Do you cross your fingers and start all your bears pieces?
39:22All might be tough. And I know you've again, talked about these guys cause we have to, cause it's a fancy show on each episode.
39:29Um, maybe rank them. Okay. We know we're starting DeAndre Swift, but what about that with burden?
39:34Oh, duns a Loveland and heck. You don't have to throw in clean frame a note in there.
39:40So, so rank those next four. Yeah. So I just wrote about a 2,500 word piece on this exact situation that went live yesterday.
39:47So, uh, we are reading again in 2026. So go check out the article if you want kind of the full thoughts.
39:54Um, I'll, I'll rank at the end. So let me, okay.
39:57Think about this in my, I think about this in my head.
40:01Uh, the, the guy that I actually, um, I was talking with our boss, Jason Klobacca about this after I filed the
40:07piece that I planned on the shortest section being the Colson Loveland one because I was like, Oh, well bad luck, you
40:14know, whatever, just kind of hand waving it away.
40:17Um, but then as I dove into it, the more and more interesting things I found on the Colson Loveland situation, particularly.
40:23And I know, again, I noted this in the article, you guys can go check this out.
40:28He has been blocking. He's been used as a pass blocker way more than I thought.
40:33Now I've seen bears fans get angry at this like chart that I threw in there about, uh, not angry at me,
40:40but angry at the original poster about Colson Loveland, uh, run blocking and how often he's been run blocking.
40:46And they're like, Oh, look at Ben Johnson. He's ruining Colson Loveland.
40:49Why is he being used like Brock Barrett? I'm like, well, number one, two completely different players.
40:54Um, also Loveland rocks as a run blocker and, uh, they run the ball a lot.
40:59Of course he's blocking a lot. However, that's not the interesting part about this.
41:03The interesting part of it is he has stayed into pass block on 13% of his snaps so far.
41:09This year, which during that overall is his rookie season.
41:12It was 5.8% from week 16 to the divisional round.
41:15It was 3.9%. That's the spot I point at Josh that that's where he was just like truly dominant.
41:21And it's because of that stretch that everybody drafted him in the top 40 and he's let everybody down, uh, so far.
41:28The other interesting difference between this year and last year is that in that stretch of games, again, he was used out
41:34wide a ton average 3.08 yards per route run when he was lined up outside in that five game stretch.
41:40So far this year, he has three catches on six targets for 25 yards lined up out wide.
41:46And all three of the catches came in the win over the New York jets.
41:50So Loveland, I think is the trickiest one here.
41:53I'm actually pretty confident starting both burden and a dunze probably narrowly in that order because of how bad the Falcons are against outside receiver production.
42:01They look at the third most yards to receivers line up out wide.
42:05I would say Loveland is third there because he's just the trickiest one to figure out.
42:10Is he past blocking so much because they're starting?
42:12Well, one, they were rotating Braxton Jones and Theo Bennett at left tackle.
42:16And now it's just Theo Bennett because they're waiting for Ozzy Trapilo to come back.
42:21Is he blocking so much? And it was some of these like full slide protections and everything because of that.
42:27Yeah. And it probably, and is that going to change just because Caleb Williams back?
42:31Probably not. So I think he's the trickiest one to figure out here.
42:35Yeah, there's a million different Loveland stats that we can bring up that just makes your skin crawl.
42:41If you drafted him where he was going, uh, here's one Jacob Gibbs actually pointed it out and then Davis Matic reiterated.
42:47And that's how I found it. No running back wide receiver or tight end.
42:52Matt has played more snaps in the NFL this season than Colson Loveland.
42:56Isn't that crazy? He has the most snaps of any tight end running back or wide receiver in the NFL so far.
43:02And look what we have to show for it.
43:05Absolutely. A lot of blocking. And it's like you said, yeah, he's only running around on like 75% of dropbacks.
43:11And then the other thing that doesn't make a lot of sense is when the bears went into 13 personnel last year,
43:18which I feel like anecdotally they're doing even more this year because they're adding Sam Rauch and Cole Komet still out there too.
43:25Loveland last year had a 4.66 yards per route run and a 53% receiving yards market share last season.
43:30But unfortunately, when they get into 13 this year, Ben Johnson has wanted to get, you know, Sam Rauch's screen or manufactured
43:37touch or two each and every game. And then Cole Komet has a couple of explosives out of that.
43:43So I don't know. The season is very long.
43:46We have seen other instances in previous years where five games are slow.
43:49That's a bad pocket of the season. And then 11 or 12 are very, very good.
43:54But I'll, you know, kick the can just one more week.
43:58If it doesn't happen this week for Colson Loveland with this high of a point total with Caleb Williams, you know, really
44:04starting his second real game because we didn't know week two was in a monsoon, then I'll have like declared it's not going to happen for Colson Loveland.
44:13But I am slightly dimming the light a little bit up, maybe more than other people are for Colson Loveland this week.
44:19Yeah. Plays of two or fewer receivers on the field so far this year, 49% seventh most for the Chicago Bears.
44:26Last year, they were higher from a league wide ranking perspective.
44:29They were fourth highest, but it was 42%. So the entire league is using more of these heavy personnel groupings this year.
44:36So I know a good bit of that is, is 13 personnel for sure for this Bears team.
44:41Yeah. Just, I think the thing that is tough with all of this is just that you mentioned the name Kalief Raymond.
44:48No one projected Kalief Raymond through for the first five weeks to have a 16.7% target share and 14.5% air yard share,
44:54both of which rank third on the team and best Colson Loveland.
44:58That part is the trickiest one. Now, I think if you're because in one sense, Josh, the Raymond plays in weeks one
45:05to three were really good and really useful. I think they've been pretty unuseful these last couple of games here.
45:11Six targets, 12 total yards to show for it.
45:14His raw participation has also dipped the last couple of weeks.
45:17So that's one of those things where in December, Colson Loveland might be catching a bunch of passes.
45:22All these guys might be catching a bunch of passes and we're all like, remember when Kalief Raymond was a thing?
45:29And now, and then he's just kind of settled into being a nice role player.
45:33But I mean, the target share and the area yard share absolutely has to come down or it is not going to
45:40happen to the ceiling outcome for any of these guys.
45:43I'll do one more. This might be why Colson Loveland hasn't produced this year.
45:47Okay. And it does go back to we only have two games of Caleb Williams and week one was against the Panthers.
45:54And remember that one, so much of that success was second, third phase plays like truly out of structure, like buying time
46:00because the first stuff, the initial reads were taken away.
46:03And they scored a ton of points on that.
46:06And a lot of that like was what two rushing scores and long ones by Caleb Williams.
46:11And then in week two, again, in bad weather, we know Brian Flores, his defense forces players into protection that we don't typically have in protection.
46:19And they play a bunch of zone behind these rushers.
46:22And so that opened this, you know, middle of the field area for someone.
46:26But that someone was Kalief Raymond much more than Colson Loveland.
46:30And then I think we can not like shoo-shoo away the Tyson Bajan and Case Keenum games because someone scored points.
46:36And, you know, we were a yard away, an inch away for Colson Loveland having a touchdown.
46:41But I just think that Ben Johnson has a different starting of an offense in mind with Caleb Williams, ones that he
46:48believes that can set the NFL record for points per game, points in a season.
46:52And we finally get that back in our lives in week six.
46:56So there's a slight reset, I think, here versus what we've seen in the last three weeks.
47:01Yeah, there's no question about that. I mean, explosive play-wise, they've completely fallen off.
47:05They were sixth best in week one. And some of that obviously was on the ground, but a good chunk of it was through the air too.
47:14And they've fallen way down from an explosive play perspective.
47:17Weeks three to five, they've been 28th in explosive play rate.
47:20We know that's not what Ben Johnson wants to be.
47:23He wants to push the football down the field.
47:26I would say the last thing on Loveland too is just, and I'm curious if you feel the same way.
47:32I would say eye test-wise, particularly looking at, you know, just the clips of where he's been that out-wide mismatch player.
47:38It's just not as great as it was last year.
47:41Not as great as it was last year, which is, it's a five-game sample.
47:45I really, as a good, as what I believe is a good young player, I'm not going to use that to damn the guy either.
47:53So it's just, that would, I just, I think that's more of explanatory why it has happened, not projecting forward, if that makes sense.
48:00It does. Okay. I think we've said everything about the Bears.
48:04I'm still on Luther Burden and, you know, if this team is going to score as many points as their head coach,
48:10who's really freaking good at his job, thinks they are.
48:13Then, you know, someone other than the running backs are going to be fantastic in the passing game.
48:19So we'll see who that is. Getting, getting Caleb Williams back is going to be much better.
48:24But anyways, go to question number four. Here is number four.
48:27Both Ashton Gentry and Jeremiah Love are hurt. Okay.
48:30They were both drafted in the top 12 of running backs as well.
48:34Gentry is likely to play through it. I just saw on my feed that Jeremiah Love is missing his second straight practice.
48:40So keep that in mind here. So Matt, what does this mean for our fantasy lineups?
48:45Obviously, if Jeremiah Love missed the game, he's going to be out.
48:49But this is an interesting one. And we don't have to take it in the tangent of a philosophical question because I
48:56know you just got out of football 301 with a lot of tangents attached to it.
49:00But does this kind of go back to, hey, don't draft guys with injuries in the preseason?
49:05Because I think there's an easy case to be made that both of these players, either by their performance and or coaches
49:12looking out for them, they've been hindered by these preseason high-ankled injuries.
49:16And it's getting to a point where it's truly impacting our fantasy lineups.
49:20It's such a great point. There's one league that I have, and it's one of our, not our experts league, but it's
49:26one of our internal Yahoo leagues where I'm like, you know, let's mess around a little bit.
49:32I'm going to take both Ashton Gentry and Jeremiah Love.
49:35I'm going to take the discount after taking Jamar Chase at the third overall pick.
49:39It's like, wow, then I could potentially get two RB1s.
49:42Not a fun team so far, by the way.
49:45It's mostly Justin Herbert's fault, but I'm also going to blame these two running backs as well.
49:50Now, Gentry's been fine at times. Love, not as much.
49:53But it just every week feels like it degrades a little bit more for Ashton Gentry.
49:58I just want them to give him two weeks off.
50:01They don't have a bye until week 13. He's refusing.
50:04Of course he's refusing. Of course he's refusing. But, I mean, for God's sakes, I know they've just, again, we're showing this on the screen here.
50:12They've discussed this internally. He doesn't want to take the week off, wants to push.
50:16But, I mean, my God, at some point, I do think we're going to get to a situation where, like, it looks bad for Gentry.
50:24Is he, I don't want to say hurting the team, but, I mean, is he hurting his own reputation, resume?
50:30I mean, it just doesn't look great for Gentry right now.
50:33I think it would be good for him to get a beat here.
50:37But the problem is, this week against the Bills, the Raiders, I think, are actually in a great spot to put up a bunch of points.
50:45So, I think they can maybe look at that.
50:48I know Boone was talking about it yesterday as a potential trap game for his Bills.
50:53I think the Raiders are going to agree with a team that's been on the West Coast now for two weeks, you
50:59know, out of their routine, the whole deal. And think about, like, hey, we could win this game.
51:05Why not us? Yeah, I don't want your beautiful and handsome listeners to think I'm advocating for sitting Ashton Gentry here in week six.
51:12I'm doing quite the contrary. Like, they're projected for 24 points, and yes, they're five and a half point underdogs.
51:18But if Ashton Gentry is pushing to play and Clint Kubiak understands that he is hurting, then even if he, I think
51:25he went through practice today and said it's the best he's felt in a while, blah, blah, blah.
51:30Some snaps have to come away. It's either, like, the between the 20s rushing stuff or it's some of the passing down stuff.
51:37And, Matt, I really don't want it to be the passing down stuff because that's actually been where Ashton Gentry over the
51:44last four weeks has gotten it done. You know, he's been the running back 20 over the last four weeks in points
51:50per game, which is not very good. But he's still running back four in target share.
51:55He's third among all backs in receiving yards. He has at least 37 yards through the air in four or five games so far this season.
52:03But again, Clint Kubiak's comments make me think that at some point a chunk of his snaps might be taken away.
52:09And I am a bit nervous that that might be in the passing department, especially when you go back and look at some of his pass protection.
52:18Just not good enough. And that's where, you know, Dylan Lowby is getting snaps over Mike Washington as well.
52:23Yeah, even any hopes of like Mike Washington having a couple moments here seems like that's not going to happen because you have the Dylan Lowby factor.
52:31So I agree with you. I'm much more nervous about Jeremiah Love, though.
52:35100%. Okay, explain why you're a little more nervous about him.
52:39Well, one, obviously he might not play this week, but let's say he does play.
52:43This goes back to more comments and, you know, his note of saying this is going to be the longest year of my life.
52:50Some people laughed at it. Other people took it too seriously.
52:54I am taking it as he understands that there's a long view to his career and that the Cardinals are taking a long view to his career.
53:02And we saw it this past week where the Arizona Cardinals got into their typical script of, hey, we're not going to score points in the first half.
53:10And then we get into the second half and we save your fancy rosters.
53:15But guess who wasn't on the field when they were down by multiple touchdowns in the second half?
53:20It was Jeremiah Love. The guy only has 36 receiving yards this season.
53:2436. In a losing team, in a bad environment, for a guy that's very good at catching the football, that was the process of the pick, right?
53:32For not just the NFL, but for us in fantasy was, oh, when they're losing, he's just going to be out there and catch a bunch of passes.
53:41But if Mike LaFleur and company are taking the long view with him based on this injury and just because he's a
53:47young running back on a bad team and he doesn't play in those second halves and this week they are 12 and a half point underdogs again.
53:56Aren't we just in an exact same similar spot as we were last week?
54:00And he might not play the entire fourth quarter and half the third quarter.
54:04Yes. I'd galaxy brain this one step further to Josh because there was so much heat and eyeballs on the Marvin Harrison Jr.
54:11thing and about how like every, every, after every game, after every moment, even when they win against the Chargers in week one, now it looks like nothing.
54:19But at that moment, it's like, oh, this is one of the biggest upsets of the entire NFL season.
54:25Mike LaFleur and the entire coaching staff is peppered with questions about, well, why didn't Marvin get that?
54:31Why didn't, which is, I think, probably a big reason they're happy to, that this, this divorce happened.
54:36No, no need to stay together for the kids on this one.
54:40I mean, this is going to now happen with Jeremiah Love because it was already kind of starting to happen.
54:46Why didn't this guy play? You're just going to get all these questions and things of that nature.
54:51And now there's starting to become a narrative about, well, this is just what happens when you go to the Cardinals.
54:58I mean, I think Keyshawn Johnson said it. Others have echoed it.
55:01You just go to the Cardinals and your career just dies if you're this superstar player.
55:06So there's going to be this extra attention on it, extra magnification of it, which I think will lead to only more
55:13pressure for him to maybe, again, take a couple weeks off or something like that, which might be good in the long run.
55:20But yeah, this long view thing with Jeremiah Love, I can kind of understand their point on it because, yeah, you should
55:26probably think about what is he going to be like in 2027 and 2028 and beyond.
55:31Right. Right. It's just strange to take a running back third overall and we're in this spot.
55:36It's weird team building. I hear you. I also think, you know, a high ankle sprain when they gave him, what, 14
55:43touches and a half plays a part in this too.
55:46Now, we did get a game. We did get a game.
55:49Sorry. I saw Scott made this point on Twitter.
55:52He's like, the time they had the most intentional usage for Jeremiah Love was that preseason game.
55:57I mean, right now, I don't totally agree with that.
56:00What week four, week three, he had 26 touches.
56:03So I was all in. I thought like this was the brief hall of occasion of Michael floor in with the jets.
56:09And now he's doing it with Jeremiah Love. But ever since then, he's been like the running back 43 and 45.
56:16And look, great people out there. Dwayne McFarlane keeps saying, hey, no one cares that the Arizona Cardinals have now made Jeremiah Love the focal point.
56:24My point is they haven't like they do when they're in games in the first half.
56:29He got 10 of 11 carries. But the whole theory of the of the play for the Cardinals and picking their guys is four quarters of action.
56:37And when you look at their schedule, it's brutal.
56:39OK, they have the Rams this week, 12 and a half point underdogs, just like they were last week.
56:45Then it's the Broncos. They're going to be underdogs.
56:48The Cowboys, probably another 10 plus point underdogs. The Seahawks, another 12 point underdogs.
56:52The Rams again, another 12 point underdogs in the Kansas City Chiefs, another 12 point underdogs.
56:57So I can't tell you how many fourth quarters Jeremiah Love is going to play for like the next six games.
57:03And you can't just have that as a fancy football asset.
57:07You can't do it. You really can't. Oh, that's depressing.
57:10OK, let's get to question number five here heading into week six.
57:13All right. I will make this two thirds of a positive question.
57:17OK, can we? Can we get a rookie wide receiver check in from you, Matt?
57:21Yeah. Three names I'm bringing to the table. Denzel Boston.
57:24Carnell Tate. And Jeremy Bernard. Obviously, Denzel Boston has been the most consistent piece here, despite the surroundings that he has been in.
57:31You know, Carnell Tate goes out there and gets 14 targets and then, you know, catches one of five targets for six yards this past week.
57:39And then Jeremy Bernard is kind of the new guy on the block.
57:43A starter now. Uh, a starter now. Uh, getting two or, you know, there's one against the Jets where he like throws
57:50it behind his back hip and whatever. But, um, what it looks like for Denzel Boston is it looks like one of
57:57the best X receivers in the league. Um, again, on football 301, Nate and I, in a true fixation bros, these two should never podcast with each other.
58:05Uh, he asked the producer, but do it multiple times every week.
58:09Um, and, and I, I live for nothing more, by the way.
58:12Uh, at one point he had the producers bring up, uh, Denzel Boston's next gen route chart.
58:17Um, and you just see the entire middle of the field is completely void.
58:22And I was like, yes. Okay. And then I called to bring it back up.
58:26I'm like, okay, like now this is going to be a 25 minute tangent.
58:30It's like, this is where Deshaun's just like, not, this is, this is the not seeing a chart.
58:36Cause he just completely not seeing the middle of the field, which my point in saying that is that Deshaun will probably play most of the season.
58:44I saw Shador hired an agent. Maybe he's going to get traded.
58:48I don't know. Very Mark. Like of him. Yeah.
58:50Very Marv. Like of him. I wonder what the connective tissue is there.
58:54Anyways. Um, the point of making here is that there's more meat on the bone for Denzel Boston, which is scary to think.
59:01Cause he's been that good. Cause I think he's great on these big in cuts, big routes, posts dagger, the whole deal.
59:08So there's a lot that they can do more with him.
59:11He's great. Um, I think he's pretty much an every week fantasy starter.
59:15Dwayne did make a really good case that he is a sell high.
59:19My heart just can't hear it. Maybe my head recognizes that it's true, but my heart just can't really buy it on Carnell Tate though.
59:27I think Carnell Tate has been excellent. I actually think it's a pretty close call on tape as to who's better between those two guys.
59:34I'm curious if you have a strong take on that tape.
59:38I think his left plays on the field with drops and some maybe just weird tracking moments.
59:43He also had a quote. I don't know if you saw this, that he said, I never lose this much in my life.
59:50Um, welcome to the Titans. Well, uh, well it's only week six.
59:53Get used to it. Um, I actually think he's in line for a really big week.
59:58Carnell Tate, but we can come back to that.
60:01I'm curious. What do you think about these two guys in comparison of each other?
60:05Boston Tate. Yeah. Just, just quickly and Denzel Boston, like you said, there's more meat left on the bone.
60:11I mean, he hasn't had a game of more than seven targets yet.
60:15Like we should in a different season, you know, with a different quarterback, this guy's going to get eight, nine, 10, 11, 12 target games, you know?
60:23And that's going to be sweet when it happens because he's winning just like he did in college.
60:29And it's so perfect when that happens, especially his style, Matt, which, you know, people caught him slow.
60:34And stiff and all this type of stuff, because he's not, might not be, you know, a five, 10, one 82 pound jitter.
60:41He's not Elijah Moore. Yeah. Yes. He might not be the most aesthetically pleasing wide receiver out there, but guess what?
60:47He creates separation and dudes bounce off of him and he wins in tight window targets.
60:52And he actually creates space like the hinge routes that we talked about in stats.
60:57Anyways, Denzel Boston's awesome. And it's, it's pretty cool to see that he's already succeeding in an environment that many others have failed in, in the past.
61:05On Carnal Tate, I went back and watched his five targets here.
61:09The issue with the Titans is there were so many quick pressures that when he got open at the top of his
61:15routes, Cam Ward was already moving off his spot, you know?
61:19And then you have to go to like the second, third elongated windows, all that type of stuff.
61:24Unfortunately, I think that's just the world we're going to live in here.
61:28Now that might change and maybe an upset home run swing of the week is a Tennessee Titans beating the Indianapolis Colts,
61:35or at least making this one competitive because it is a seven point spread.
61:39I will say in the opposite end of that.
61:42I just think Shane Sikin's a good enough coach that he'll take it to like the worst team in the league in the Titans.
61:49So I don't know if I'm, I'm man enough to pick the Titans in that one.
61:54Yeah, I couldn't get there, but could Cam Ward throw for 270 yards?
61:58He's never done that in his NFL career. Could he do that this week?
62:02Could Carnal Tate, who they're using as more of a Z receiver.
62:05So he ends up kicking into the slot off motion on about 26% of his snaps, averages 18 air yards per target.
62:12When he gets into the slot, the Colts are a total slot funnel.
62:16They allow the most yards to receivers lined up inside and they do a lot of these like big chunky vertical plays.
62:23And then they're pretty shut down fourth fewest yards to receivers lineup out wide.
62:27If you're trying to start Carnal Tate, like chase good weeks, this is a week to do it.
62:32Lastly, on Jeremy Bernard, who just got to play that Colts slot funnel defense last week.
62:37He's another one, Josh, that much like Denzel Boston looks like the exact player that you would have thought.
62:43He looks like a dirty work guy, a ton of in breakers, some of the quick outs that Aaron Rodgers likes to throw.
62:50He's about mostly slot, but kind of a Z receiver.
62:53To me, he just looks like a Jacoby Myers type, and that's what I thought he'd be in the NFL.
62:59I think that's what he'll be based on what I've seen so far on tape.
63:03And this is another good spot here this week.
63:06Aaron Rodgers going against a defense that you'll try to find a lot of those blitz replacement throws, quick access stuff.
63:13So it might not be Jeremy Bernard going for a buck 30 or something like that, but could he get a little
63:19slightly scammy eight catch 75 yard game? I totally think that's possible for Bernard.
63:23Yeah. And, you know, check into some wide receiver screens based on the pressure looks and all that type of stuff.
63:30Um, I'm maybe I went overboard on the driven our love and the way for our show this week, just because look.
63:36This rookie class from a running back and wide receiver standpoint has been putrid in comparison to previous years.
63:42Yeah, but oftentimes rookie wide receivers help define second halves of the fantasy season.
63:46I'm never going to compare Jeremy Bernard's talent to Amon Ross St.
63:50Brown or Latin McConkie or what like Brian Thomas Jr.
63:53did and all that type of stuff. But Matt, I think we're at the point where Jeremy Bernard has a likelier chance
64:00than not to hold on to the wide receiver to roll for the for the Pittsburgh Steelers for the rest of the season.
64:07Um, just the way that Aaron Rodgers speaks about him publicly and also apparently in production meetings with Jim Nance and JJ Watt.
64:14And then how Jeremy Bernard has not been a perfect player so far.
64:18He's had drops and miscues and that stuff. And yet Aaron Rodgers isn't sending him to the bench.
64:23He wants him back on the field on the very next snap that he is living with the ups and the downs
64:30and the roller coasters that rookies brings out there.
64:32And that like Aaron Rodgers hasn't said one good thing about Michael Pittman during his time with the Steelers makes me think
64:39that Jeremy Bernard is going to be the wide receiver too for this team moving forward.
64:44And sometimes his passes and where he runs routes are more accessible for a rod than like DK Metcalf's.
64:50So, uh, I understand the Steelers aren't like this high flying offense, but three or four plays per game.
64:55Aaron Rodgers does something cool. And, uh, Jeremy Bernard could be on the end of that.
65:00I co-signed basically everything you just said there. And the last thing I would say is obviously this is not the most
65:07high powered offense in the world, which is why I think it won't be those one of adding Jeremy Bernard off waiver
65:14wires tilted your league or whatever like that. But to your point about I wouldn't compare his talent level to Amon Ross St.
65:20Brown. Again, I'm not saying Jeremy Bernard is going to become Amon Ross St.
65:25Brown, but what would you have said about Amon Ross St.
65:28Brown's, you know, talent level of October 15th of his rookie season?
65:32Yeah, it was a fourth round pick. I really liked Amon Ross St.
65:36Brown. I had him ranked higher than a fourth round pick in my draft rankings, but, um, I certainly didn't expect him
65:42to go the way that he did, but he started off as this like rugged, dirty work player.
65:48And yeah, Jeremy Bernard rugged, dirty work player. So, um, you know, I'm going to get quote graphic here on, uh, Matt
65:54Harmon says Jeremy Bernard is the next, uh, Amon Ross St.
65:58Brown, but you know, you get my, you get what I'm saying here.
66:02Well, Jeremy's just a gamer, you know, like when, when you went back and yeah, you turned on the Alabama tape and
66:08obviously he transferred over from Washington with, you know, the head coach and Brian grub is finally back there at Alabama and all that type of stuff.
66:16But they built their passing offense around him and he did everything.
66:20You know, he caught manufactured stuff. He worked her the middle field.
66:24He did down the field stuff. He did in breakers.
66:27He did outbreak. He did all of it. So, uh, it's not a surprise to me that he's hit the ground running
66:33in the NFL and we'll have some rookie moments.
66:36But, uh, again, I w I was heavily invested in him this week.
66:40That's for sure. All right. We'll get to question number six here before we do a question in the chat, not a
66:47question in the chat from Snoopy step bro. I guess he just wanted to send in Josh looks handsome today.
66:53Matt looks decent, I guess. Wow. You know what?
66:55Snoopy number one. I agree with you. Josh does look very handsome.
66:59He's got a nice collared shirt on. Uh, I, I think Josh has a great face.
67:04Okay. I think Josh is a handsome man. I would say, um, Snoopy.
67:08Honestly, I thought about trimming up today and then I just, I just ran out of time before the shows.
67:14So, you know what? Snoopy good call by you.
67:17I would say decent, not my best. I'm going to watch the film.
67:21I'm going to get better. We'll, we'll, we'll try again.
67:24Um, next week. I promise I'll come into next Thursday's show looking much more handsome.
67:28So apologies to you, Snoopy step bro. Apologies to you, Josh, all the producers.
67:32I gotta be better. Okay. I gotta be the best version of myself.
67:36All right. Question number six. What do we got?
67:39I mean, this one's disgusting, but I'll bring it up.
67:42Um, the chiefs are projected for 25 and a half points.
67:45Off there by week. Matt, do any of their wide receivers matter to us?
67:50Like we just talked about the waiver wire. If Tyquan Thornton, after his great game in, let me do the math week four.
67:57If he finished that healthy. He would have been like the hottest commodity out there.
68:01Right. With how Patrick Holmes is playing right now, how they're getting these single high looks and coverages and how he's their best deep threat.
68:09Well, now he's going to be missing for a very long time.
68:12Rushy rice is off with a hamstring injury. So who is it?
68:16And like, dare I say, is it Justin Watson who was back on this roster?
68:20Like, is he their best vertical wide receiver now?
68:23There's, you know, several teams working out Juju Smith-Schuster.
68:26I think the Chargers, the other team in this game is one of them, which is just a total harbinger of doom.
68:33If your team is working out Juju Smith-Schuster, that's means your wide receiver room is not in a good spot.
68:39I mean, the Chargers also signed MBS. That's a double, double sign of doom right there.
68:43Anyways, former chief receiver. You know, there's some Cyrus Allen pop starting to get back going again.
68:49He was theoretically. Yeah. He's like theoretically Rishi Rice's backup.
68:52Now to me, I think that Jalen Royals runs more of the Rishi Rice routes and is that player for them.
68:58Is he good at football? No, I don't think so.
69:01But I mean, again, theoretically, that's where he fits in.
69:04And at least that was my pre-draft opinion. And based on the very little we've seen of him in the NFL so
69:11far, it's kind of the role he's fulfilled. You know, Cyrus Allen was a day three rookie.
69:16He had a good summer, but also missed some time.
69:19This is a team that never trusts its rookie wide receivers early on.
69:23So they could be forced into this coming off of a bye week, had two weeks to prepare to get him going.
69:29So definitely not saying, I mean, he doesn't even have a picture on our damn projections here.
69:35So not a good sign for Cyrus Allen. But anyways, I would not say they'd like, oh, go pick him up.
69:41But I mean, he's probably got to get a bump in playing time.
69:45He's run like 10 routes all season. Right. Yeah.
69:48I mean, post by rookie bumps. Now, this is an early buy and that would be a big bump towards the end
69:54of the season, you know, and even a bump for Cyrus Allen would be like a 33% snap player.
70:00So we'll see. I mean, it would be great.
70:03I'm just like, you know, I hear from Hayden, this is the Xavier worthy season or this is the Xavier worthy week or I'm intrigued by this.
70:11Xavier worthy just is not a vertical pass catcher.
70:14No, he is fast. But Matt, he is the perfect and latest example of you have to be more than fast to be a good downfield player because.
70:22He like in tight window target situations that he just gets folded like corners just kind of work through him.
70:28They impress coverage. They make him play at their speed versus his speed.
70:32And so, yeah, maybe he'll pop off here and there.
70:35And but most of the stuff is, you know, the drags, the whips, the manufacturer touch at the line of scrimmage.
70:41So I'm just intrigued to see this version of the team and their project for this many points.
70:47I would be totally fine, though, if you know, it's 17 points for Ken Walker, the third and then another touchdown for
70:53Travis Kelsey and we get out of there. It probably is what it's going to be.
70:58And my thought is this is going to be a massive workload week once again for Kenneth Walker, considering the state is wide receiver.
71:06And but yeah, we have seen worthy when Rice not when Rice has not been a part of the proceedings and worthy
71:12has been healthy, which that hasn't like lined up a ton where he does get those manufactured looks, the little whips and
71:19the quick outs and stuff like that. So we might see that from.
71:23And to be fair, he did have a big tight coverage win in the last game that we saw of him, Xavier worthy.
71:30But I think we know who Xavier worthy is at this point.
71:33I'm waiting to see more evidence on that. So definitely interested in what some of these depth receivers for Kansas City can do.
71:40Otherwise, we're probably coming out of this game saying, who are they trading for at the NFL trade deadline?
71:46And then they'll just sign you just miss Schuster.
71:49All right. So with that, let's take our first quick break of the show.
71:53We come back. We've got no one's games of the week.
71:56We'll get into that right after this. All right.
71:59We're back and welcome to no one's games of the week.
72:02Like, you know, these are some sleepy ones this week, Josh.
72:06I'll say that. All right. The lullaby is very fitting.
72:09Although I will say maybe maybe I can stand up a little bit, stick up a little bit for jets at Patriots
72:15because the Patriots look like they're coming back. You know, Drake may the schedules getting lighter and Drake may is crushing it.
72:22All right. That sounds good. Week six status for AJ Brown is quote up in the air.
72:27He might play. He might not. We will see.
72:30Meanwhile, though, the jets, the jets are not good, but they're pretty frisky.
72:34Yeah. But look at that. They're pretty frisky and they're very concentrated.
72:37Okay. Garrett Wilson is on pace for the best season of his career.
72:41Braylon Allen is a bull with the ball and the only guy who touches the ball.
72:46So weirdly, like we do have to set it and forget it.
72:50I would say fantasy starters on the New York jets as they go against the New England Patriots.
72:55Totally. And the Patriots are getting healthier on defense.
72:58I believe that Christian Gonzalez is back for this game.
73:01And Matt, as you have pointed out, Garrett Wilson is playing what the least amount of slot reps that he has seen over the last few years.
73:09So we should get a whole bunch of Garrett Wilson and Christian Gonzalez battles.
73:13And that's fun because Garrett Wilson was fricking outrageous last week.
73:17He was so good. Um, now the jets at every other catchable position, uh, have gone through injuries.
73:22We've seen Adnan Mitchell now have an operation and I'm sure that extends his window to be out a little bit.
73:29Uh, Kenyan Sadiq had an awesome game against the lions was top of the list for us.
73:34The waiver wire then had a zero catch game.
73:36And then what got a concussion last week or head injury.
73:40And he's going to miss this one. And then maybe Omar Cooper comes back.
73:44So it's, it's kind of Garrett Wilson and, and that's it.
73:47So for, you know, Frank Reich evolving, I think a little bit and utilizing these pieces as he should have.
73:53And that jets offense looking really fun for the first two to three weeks.
73:58Uh, if Garrett Wilson kind of gets taken out of that equation, Matt, I am pretty nervous about what this jets offense is going to look like.
74:06I think the good news and cause I've gone back and kind of watched more of this that yes, it's Garrett Wilson's
74:12out wide a ton, but he's being used in these kind of condensed splits, uh, stacks bunches.
74:18Yeah. So even if he's out wide, it's still, you can do some things to get him free releases and hide him a little bit from Christian Gonzalez.
74:26But I imagine Gonzalez is going to track him all over the field, which will make it a tough matchup.
74:32But a lot of that comes back to then what is the game script like for the New York jets?
74:38Are they going to be in kind of catch up mode?
74:41Cause I think this Patriots offense is definitely starting to turn around.
74:45I made the joke about the schedule, but I have always been pretty insistent that this offense is a bad team beater.
74:52Um, and I think the jets defense started out again, looking kind of okay, but has started to tumble back down a
74:58little bit, particularly in the secondary against some of these man coverage looks.
75:02And the Patriots receivers, like they got Kyle Williams going after Chisholm showing a little something, something like he's got pretty decent hands.
75:09Uh, I would say slot based player. Don't love the movement skills, but a player that can certainly take reps in the NFL.
75:16And if they get AJ Brown back, that's a whole nother discussion.
75:20But I think we're getting to a point now with the Patriots pass catchers where I feel a lot better about Drake may.
75:27Well, we do have two, really three injury nuggets.
75:30I think with the Patriots one, we know will Campbell miss part of last game.
75:34I'm not sure he's going to play in this one.
75:37So they get their first round pick. Caleb Lomu stepping in, uh, David Bailey's played really well on the jets, you know, edge rushing spot.
75:45And so that might be a rookie versus rookie battle.
75:48Uh, Trevor and Henderson, two days ago, it was reported that he has a high angle sprain.
75:53It will be out multiple weeks yesterday. He got in a limited practice today.
75:57He was in full pads. Like there was a note from Schefter saying, well, they believe he's a fast healer.
76:03I know he was Wolverine Matt. Like that. That's the quickest thing from a high ankle sprain I've ever, I've ever seen.
76:10So if he's back, that destroys our theory of the play for Romandre Stevenson.
76:14Cause this backfield has been horrific when it's been split into two and has kind of only mattered when it's been one player out there.
76:22Uh, and then the last one, like you said, is AJ Brown, who is back to running at practice.
76:27I think he's kind of going to be a limited participation all week long.
76:32Uh, if he plays, obviously he's in your starting lineup, but if, if he doesn't, it might be more of like a week seven thing here.
76:39Yeah. I probably would prepare for him not to play, but could totally be wrong about that.
76:45Of course, I would guess he's back in week seven, not week six, but we will, we will see about that one.
76:51Um, okay. Next game up here. Steelers at bucks.
76:54Talked a little bit about the Jeremy Bernard aspect of this, which obviously is a big one.
76:59This is another injury nugget though. Cause Rico Dowdle fully participated in practice today.
77:03I would guess he does get back out here.
77:06So we really get to test Mike McCarthy's word here.
77:09Cause he said, Jalen is our featured player right now.
77:12Where do you think Jalen Warren, who's been one of the best?
77:16Um, I mean, number one in the NFL for, for running backs, 490 yards since week three, where do we think he
77:22slots in from like a fantasy standpoint? If Rico Dowdle plays.
77:26Well, and the other part of it is that they face the box and, and truly no one runs on the box.
77:32Uh, they've been still against the run allowing 3.4 yards per carry to back.
77:37That's third best in the league. There are eighth in terms of first down or touchdown rate.
77:42They are fourth in preventing runs of 10 or more yards.
77:45But Matt, the one area to get them is the receiving department.
77:49Obviously they have new linebackers, young linebackers that have been in and out like Josiah Trotter.
77:53And then Alex Anzalone is just a journeyman at that linebacker spot.
77:57Uh, they've allowed 5.4 receptions per games to opposing running backs.
78:00That's the fourth most in the league. And we saw one of those receptions for Jalen Warren last week, go to the house for 50 plus yards.
78:09So yeah, that, that's how they have to get their points here.
78:12Um, I, I totally buy what Mike McCarthy has said, like in the preseason.
78:16And when you read the beat writers, they all said, well, Rico data was going to be the lead ball carrier and
78:23it's going to be a one, two punch. But we go from one, two punch to, like you said, our featured player right now.
78:30So this is unwavering. Uh, it is Jalen Warren is a top 12 running back this week, even in a bad rushing matchup for me.
78:38Yeah. The receiving usage for him should save the day for sure.
78:42He's been targeted, not quite at the Kenny gain.
78:44Well rate, but he's been targeted on a per route basis at a pretty high rate, uh, by Aaron Rogers, who we trust him.
78:52He's going to be out there. Like that's the long and short of it.
78:56Um, really good pass protector. I think Jalen Warren too.
78:59So he should still maintain that job on the bucks side of things.
79:03Obviously big win on Thursday against Dallas Cowboys. We're talking about a slightly different level of defensive quality here going against the Steelers this week.
79:10Yeah. Steelers defense. I think you could argue top five in the league so far and all the fancy boy metrics out there.
79:17Um, look, I was extremely J Jalen Daniels curious after his debut, uh, just, you know, in the aspects of hitting whole
79:24shots and trying to throw down the field in certain areas and the timing of it and buying some extra time.
79:30Uh, it was not actually surprising to me that he looked that good against Collins Cowboys.
79:35Uh, I don't know how this is going to be against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but Matt, we might have like a long
79:42time rostered quarterback in the league at the very least.
79:45And I think you can say that Jalen Daniels, his game on Thursday night was better than any Baker Mayfield performance that
79:51we've seen from the Buccaneers so far this season.
79:54It's a super low bar, but you might not be, um, wrong about that.
79:58But now, uh, Jalen Daniels, they've run a very like quick based passing game with him, get the ball out fast, but that's kept the offense on schedule.
80:07He's made a few mistakes, particularly in the Packers game, but, um, they, they, you know, they've just kept the offense moving, kept it going there.
80:15And I think that, I think that what we've seen so far out of the entire offense again is a little bit of a smoother operation.
80:23By the way, Josh, it's, I can't get this out of my head.
80:27I think this game is going to be the first one that ends, uh, on Sunday.
80:31Oh, I like that. That's my, that's my bold prediction about this game.
80:35The Steelers, we know Rogers loves to play slow, drain out the clock.
80:39This team with, uh, Jalen Daniels under center the last two weeks, fifth highest in terms of rushing rate.
80:45Some of that is him. Some of it's the, just the buck year being of it all quick passes and everything.
80:51I think this is going to be the game that ends the first, uh, ends first.
80:56Okay. So, so we've got that 39 and a half point total, I think also speaks to that as well.
81:02Yeah. That's like the Mark Sessler special that that's the one that he always looks for in terms of, in terms of
81:09like, Hey, which game can I pick? So I can get out of there the quickest, uh, that's a Sessy.
81:15There you go. Yeah. This is the Sessy, the Sessy special here.
81:19Uh, okay. The other part that is interesting though, with this Bucks team, I talked about this with Dwayne McFarlane earlier this week.
81:25This team is like a phone book. They throw to everybody.
81:29They have six players with a target chair over 10% on the team.
81:33Uh, it's one of the least constant. It's actually the least concentrated, um, passing game in the NFL right now, even when everybody is healthy.
81:40Do you feel better about getting a decent box score from Emeka Ibuka on, uh, Thursday night last week?
81:46Or is this still something you're just like not trusting at all?
81:50Not trusting it at all. Uh, I would only start him if I have to.
81:54And again, any wide receiver beyond wide receiver 20 is vile.
81:58Um, Matt, you mentioned so many players, what five have over a 10% target chair.
82:02Six. I couldn't tell you one pass or six.
82:05I can tell you one pass thrown in direction of Chris Godwin this year or one catch that he's made.
82:11You know, is he one of those six qualifying players, you know, like it's, I'm not saying that he is a mistake or a problem.
82:18He just, that is a fact right now. I cannot tell you one play that Chris Godwin has made this season.
82:25Well, he made the one big play and then it got called back due to holding.
82:30Uh, and it was a just, it was a justifiable one.
82:33It wasn't like an, Oh my God, I can't believe they called it.
82:37I think the reason that you don't remember it, Josh, is because, uh, he is 11.7% target share, which is, he's the
82:43last one of the group in terms of the target share there.
82:47But, um, no, wait, excuse me. I have that wrong.
82:50Uh, no, he, but again, he's, his target share is not very high.
82:54And the reality of that is also that his air yard share is even lower than that.
82:59So, uh, 14.4% target share. That's a third most on the team behind Emeka Ibuka and Kate Otten.
83:05Kate Otten's the one I'm like, Kate Otten has an 18.5% target share.
83:09I don't remember any of those plays. Uh, but then he, uh, Chris Godwin has a 5% air yard share, which ranks
83:15behind Ibuka, Godwin, Ted Hurst, and Tez Johnson because they throw these like shot plays to Ted, uh, to Tez Johnson.
83:22So it's just little quick passes to Chris Godwin that just ultimately, if he doesn't break tackles, it's not going anywhere.
83:28I, I honestly, I was wondering if he's like a trade candidate.
83:32I don't know. I don't think anyone wants to take on that contract though, but maybe like some team that needs a
83:38veteran receiver, it's just not happening for Chris Godwin this year, which is not surprising based on how it looked last year,
83:45but he's still a pretty good run blocker in the run game for, uh, Bucky Irving, who is, I think having an
83:52up and down season, but is coming off a really high, high at least.
83:56Yeah. We kind of get rug pulled by this coaching staff and you know, Zach Robinson is completely on my radar.
84:02Yeah. I mean, I understand that they won in prime time.
84:05So people might have this belief that Zach Robinson is doing a good job.
84:10I think he's doing a horrific job. Uh, but who asks me, uh, Bucky Irving, you did.
84:15So I'll talk about it. Like Bucky's really good.
84:18He's very good. Unfortunately, this offensive line hasn't been as good as promised.
84:21Like Graham Barton has really regressed at center, especially in some pass protection stuff.
84:26But the difference in, in Bucky's work has been what two weeks ago, Sean Tucker got some of the goal line stuff.
84:32And then in this game, he had a five yard receiving touchdown Bucky Irving did.
84:37And then a one yard plunge for a second score.
84:40So Matt, this is where we talk about, Hey, this is fake football.
84:44And we try to predict the unpredictable. And if you went based on the previous game, there was no way you would
84:51think that Bucky was going to be the short yardage player for the bucks.
84:55But here we are. And he is. So now we ride with that and that's our, our locked in belief.
85:01And, and I would 100% start him as a running back to in your lineups.
85:05Yeah. Um, I can't believe it got bug pulled by this coaching staff.
85:09What a shock, but yeah, I agree with you.
85:12Bucky has looked really good and, uh, definitely someone I would be starting for sure.
85:17Okay. Last game to talk about in this segment, the Titans, they always find their way here.
85:22Titans at Colts. We got a 44 and a half point total.
85:25I have used all my notes. It's your choice that they find themselves here.
85:30It's that's you. Yeah. This, this is what the universe gives me.
85:33I'm just working off what I got, Josh. What are, what are the games?
85:37I'm supposed to put in this section. Uh, the, the, the, the Browns are playing the Ravens.
85:43Okay. Browns are playing the Ravens. So can't you can't use them.
85:46Um, and I think the Titans, honestly, the Colts have worked their way into the segment.
85:51I w I'm trying not to just pick the Titans every week here.
85:55Um, cause we're to a point where at least they have Carnell Tate and he's interesting to talk about and has some fantasy value.
86:02But that was my only note on the Titans that I had.
86:06And I already used it in the Carnell Tate section earlier.
86:09The only other thing I'll say is I keep seeing Calvin Ridley brought up as a trade candidate.
86:15Nobody is trading for Calvin Ridley. Please, please stop writing that people are going to trade for Calvin Ridley.
86:20He's run 87 routes this year and has eight targets on a team that could use pass catchers.
86:26He's being out targeted by Tony Pollard and Alec Io manner.
86:29Like Gunner Helm has more targets than Calvin Ridley.
86:32Please. The other note here is that Tony Pollard is running back 22 in consensus rankings this week.
86:37There's no bigger sign of a recession indicator than Tony Pollard being running back 22 in consensus.
86:42Like, I don't think he actually exists, you know, but I'm sure he's rostered in 95% of Yahoo leagues out there.
86:49I don't think he actually is a fantasy player.
86:51Like no one has started him. He hasn't been in any lineups and yet he's a top 24 back.
86:57Here we are in week six. Like this really is a stars versus scrubs type season.
87:02And if you have like two of the top 17, they're in an awesome place.
87:07And anyone after that, you're not drafting zero running back next year.
87:10Um, I'm trying to look up exactly a Tony Pollard, not at practice today.
87:14So wonder what that's about. He's somebody who he's somebody who should be traded.
87:19Okay. He's, he's someone who actually probably should be traded, but yeah, to your point, Josh, I know you don't have to do rankings.
87:26Lucky you. Um, I'm gonna say that every week.
87:29Tony Pollard, when you get to the, when you're doing the weekly running back rankings, you get to the Tony Pollard zone
87:35and you're just like, all right, well, this is the last guy.
87:39This is the cliff that he is the representation that you are at the cliff.
87:43Like the last guy that you could talk yourself into.
87:47He's going to see the most work in his backfield.
87:50You know that, but it will not result in any fantasy value, which by the way is what Tony Pollard was in fantasy drafts this off season.
87:58And quite frankly, what he was last off season, this was, and then he went on to be one of the most
88:04productive running backs, uh, in the fantasy playoffs, uh, as well.
88:08I'm trying to look up exactly how many people are starting Tony Pollard.
88:12While I do that, why don't you talk a little bit about Tyler Warren?
88:16Yes. Talk about the Colts. Yeah. So Tyler Warren's role changed last week, uh, prior to the week five game, he had
88:23the lowest a dot of any non running back in the league.
88:26And I thought it was a designated choice, a conscientious choice by or conscious choice by Shane Sykin to get him on
88:33these over routes, these leak patterns, these more downfield shot.
88:36They faked a screen and then he worked to the third level on top of it.
88:41Uh, I think that's necessary. Like who else is pushing coverage off of here?
88:45Uh, who else is attacking these areas of the field?
88:48It's not Josh downs, you know, they're running Laquan Treadwell and Westbrook Akine and these guys.
88:53So I will remain with the idea that I had prior to the season that Tyler Warren, you know, is going to lead this team in receiving.
89:01And he'll do that the rest of the year.
89:04Uh, and then Matt, we finally got like what he did at Penn state in terms of a goal line touchdown.
89:10Now it was that fullback instead of a wildcat, which was a choice like he did at Penn state.
89:16But, um, yeah, I'm, I'm not saying Tyler Warren's going to like jump into the top three tight ends this year, but
89:22at the very least in a game like this, where they're favored by seven points, uh, Tyler Warren's going to be a good asset for your fancy lineups.
89:31I, I gotta see it for a few more weeks, uh, or like at least another week of him actually being used
89:38down the field and him getting the football consistently simply because I just don't trust the quarterback really at all.
89:44Um, at this point, um, cause to your, to your point, I mean, Josh Downs is running the routes down the field.
89:50The quarterback just can't get him the ball. It's a period end of story.
89:54Um, he has one of the lowest catchable target rates while also, um, and it's just like, what are you going to do?
90:01Some of that definitely is obviously Josh Downs is five 90s, a hundred, maybe 175 pounds.
90:06Maybe that's a bit, that's a part of like the contested situation stuff for him.
90:11But I mean, this is a guy who does catch contested passes in the correct areas, but I don't know.
90:17Regardless, it's not going to happen for any of these guys consistently because the quarterback play is so bad and I'm not sure it's going to get better.
90:25Um, in most matchups, this one though, maybe from an edge rush perspective, the Titans don't have very much.
90:31Just real quick before you respond to that, Josh, um, Tony Pollard, 51% of Yahoo leagues.
90:36Tony Pollard is being started in 14% of people have elected to 14% of, of leagues have elected to start him this week.
90:43Plus plus 14 this week. They've, they've, they've decided this is the week for Pollard probably because there's a little green, you
90:49know, icon next to the Colts rushing department. But anyways, that's our update on Tony Pollard.
90:54Yeah. The, those 51% or a hundred percent of them subscribe to ship chasing and, uh, you know, Peter over that and Sean Siegel and that stuff.
91:02That's how you end up with Tony Pollard on your team.
91:06Yikes. Okay. Um, anyways, uh, it's all, it's all in just guys.
91:09It's, it's all, it's all fun. We're allowed to do this.
91:13Uh, Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor has destroyed this matchup over the last three times he's played against them just in full PPR.
91:19This is from Reeves, his worksheet. Uh, he scored 37, 40 and 33 PPR points the last three times he's faced the Tennessee Titans.
91:27So, uh, wheels up, wheels up for JT. Wheels up for JT.
91:30I am open to this Colts, uh, passing offense being functional at some point if the quarterback can just play a little
91:37bit better, but you know, maybe there's an Achilles turnaround at some point here soon.
91:41But, um, yeah, that is what it is with the Colts.
91:45That's why they find themselves in no one's games of the week.
91:48All right. We're going to take a quick break.
91:51We come back. We're taking your questions in the Toyota fantasy hotline.
91:55We'll get into that right after this. All right, we're back and welcome to fantasy hotline presented by Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL every week.
92:03We reach out to you, the people, our people, and ask you a pressing question for each week's slate of games.
92:10Our question this week, who do you need a heroic performance from?
92:13That's not an every week starter. Yeah. I need a heroic performance from Kenneth Longer.
92:18You know, we get that. We're talking a non-usual hero who's going to save you because of an injury, a bi-week, whatever.
92:24Let me tell you what, Josh, some brutal names submitted.
92:27Okay. Some real, some real hopeless ones. And we got a few of them into the show here.
92:33Um, I will say though, the first one I could squint at this one.
92:37The first one comes in from Klaus and says, Trey Tucker, I'm all aboard the Trey Tucker train, uh, here in week six of the NFL season.
92:45Josh, I think this one in terms of desperation plays, you know what you're getting into with Trey Tucker.
92:51It's either going to be four for 40, like this exact projection.
92:55It's either going to be three catches for 45 yards, or it's going to be a buck 30 and a touchdown, maybe two.
93:02Uh, and I could see the high range of outcomes this week because that Bill's defense, not very good.
93:07The bills are 30th, allowing a league high 15.2 receptions per game to wide receivers, a 7.8 touchdown rate per game.
93:14Uh, they allow 12.3 yards though per catch to receivers, which is eighth best in the league.
93:19So we know that Trey Tucker's game is all downfield.
93:22If he hits the shot plays, that's a big deal.
93:25Um, on throws, according to retrieve bars worksheet, 20 or more yards down the field, they have allowed, uh, just six of 19 to be completed.
93:33So Kirk is knowing what he sees pre-snap and post-snap and ripping these downfield shots when he's not throwing the ball to Brock Bowers.
93:40Um, all we need is one. That's a Trey Tucker line, right?
93:44When it's a positive, when you have an optimistic lens, all you need is one.
93:48And that can happen in the game where they're projected for 24 points.
93:52That's for sure. 85 targets allowed to outside wide receivers.
93:55The Buffalo bills lead the NFL in that category.
93:58And it just feels like this Raiders passing game, Josh, could go the way of what the, I mean, obviously a poor
94:05man's version of what the Rams did to them on Monday night, where it's a lot of paper cut, paper cut, paper cut, paper cut, paper cut.
94:13Throw it over the top. And obviously if they're going to throw it over the top, they're going to paper cut to
94:19Brock Bowers and they're going to throw it over the top to Trey Tucker.
94:24So again, you know what you're getting yourself into there, but I've seen worse ideas.
94:28Okay. Next one comes in from, uh, palms, something or another.
94:31Yeah. Yeah. Corey Krosky merit JCM. Ooh, you say oof.
94:34Yeah. They even got it. Luke's got the little squirrely eyes, a swirly eyes emoji here.
94:39He knows he's in trouble with JCM. How do you feel about the commander's backfield?
94:44I mean, after the first series we had bill have a 22 yard touchdown.
94:48I'm like, guys, this, this can be it. Like this is the week.
94:52And then, you know, the giants send all that blitzes, you know, zero coverage.
94:56And they had no answer, the commander's offense. And so David Blal's answer was to put Rashad white in, in pass protection
95:03and then throw screens to Deami Brown. You could have better answers.
95:07I feel like, um, and then we also have also Neckler is still an active member of this team.
95:12So Matt zoomed out view. We drafted bill knowing that this was a two person backfield and like the roles were very clear.
95:19And in some ways now it's a three person backfield.
95:22Like Austin, that was getting legit snaps and touches.
95:25Not a lot of them, but some of them in the first half.
95:29And we can't have anything taken away from, from bill crosskey merit right now.
95:33And they're facing the San Francisco 49ers, uh, expected to lose by quite a lot.
95:38Uh, and I hear, you know, the 49ers have a pretty good linebacker in Fred Warner.
95:43So this is a tough one. They, they do, they do.
95:46It's a tough one. Um, I will say JCM is probably going to be above the Tony Pollard replacement line.
95:52They're Tony Pollard cliff line in the rankings, but not by very much, not by very much.
95:57So yeah, you, they're total risk play here for JCM.
96:00And yeah, if you're in a non elite offense and you got the backfield split three ways, it's just a total fantasy disaster.
96:07Um, essentially you're hoping that you're hoping here's a sentence.
96:10You're hoping JCM is going to go the Amarian Hampton path where he just finds his way into the end zone.
96:16Uh, so that's kind of the path you're looking at there for JCM.
96:20Tough, tough break on that one. I will say Matt, if you just, if you look at the points per game, he
96:27is right next to Jeremiah Love and Cam Scadaboo in points per game.
96:31Like we drafted bill at what, like running back 31.
96:34I can't remember how far away that was. Uh, so he's been like a small one player right now, but at the
96:41same time you have almost no, no confidence, but maybe once we get into some bi-weeks and I actually think the commanders are, are another one.
96:48These frisky teams when we bring that up, uh, and maybe future weeks that they might be bill.
96:54So circle back around with this question and I might have a better answer for bill in the future.
97:00Yeah, this is just not a great week for it.
97:03Uh, you mentioned Cam Scadaboo. So let's skip ahead actually on the list here and go to Cam Scadaboo offspring 10.
97:09It feels like he shouldn't be involved in this section and yet kind of has been involved in this level of player,
97:16you know, no passing game work basically needs to score a touchdown.
97:19These are just the most, uh, frustrating backs to have in fantasy as you're just essentially you're counting on that touchdown.
97:26I also saw an interesting quote from John Harbaugh today where he's talking about like, we need to change the offense to fit Jameis Winston.
97:33Stop trying to fit the Jameis Winston into their idea of I'm paraphrasing here and probably butchering it, but like what the
97:40idea of what the offense wanted to be. Except for, you know, the snaps that apparently he's going to increase for JJ
97:47McCarthy because Jordan Roddon reported that Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh believes that that is going to, uh, take this offense and help it.
97:54You know, the, the five or six snaps that JJ McCarthy comes in and run some type of zone read and that stuff.
98:01So what do you think about that, Matt? Yeah, I think, you know what I think about that.
98:06Cam's got to boot. Cam's got to boot is frustrating in that he's coming off a season low 58% of snaps.
98:13But then when you look at the plays, they ran what 84 of them.
98:17So he still had a huge chunk just of raw numbers.
98:20And sometimes we don't look at raw numbers enough and just look at things in percentages.
98:25But like Najee Harris is coming in and in the last three weeks playing and getting five threads and touches compared to Scottie boo six.
98:32However, like this Saints defense is rough. You know, they've allowed a league high 161 yards from scrimmage to backfields.
98:39They've allowed a first down or touchdown on a league high 31% of backfields.
98:43So despite this three person backfield that Cam's got to boot is in, they're only one and a half point underdogs here.
98:49And the Saints just can't stop the run. So I'm in.
98:53I'm playing Cam's got to be this week, even if he only plays about 60% of snaps.
98:58I am as well. Actually, he's going to definitely he will definitely be above the Tony Pollard replacement line.
99:04He'll be above JCM again, not by much, but low end running back to this is the week to chase one of
99:10those touchdowns are projected for 22 points this week.
99:13The New York Giants think they can move the football.
99:16This is a rather high scoring game overall, I think, coming up here between the Saints and the Giants.
99:22So, yeah, it's a good week to chase a touchdown.
99:25But again, you know what you're getting yourself into on that.
99:28OK, we got a three parter here for our next one.
99:31Woody Marks, Jawan Johnson and Jeremy Bernard. Jeremy Bernard.
99:34I think we know how we feel about him.
99:37We talked about him earlier. Jawan Johnson, Woody Marks are the other ones.
99:41They also mentioned he's got Ryan has to start two of Jalen Waddell.
99:45Woody Marks, Jawan Johnson or Jeremy Bernard. We're not going to talk about Jalen Waddell because that game is happening tonight.
99:51And for our audio listeners, I'm not going to curse Jalen Waddell.
99:55OK, so you know how that went. If you're listening to this tomorrow, Woody, Jawan or Jeremy.
100:00Again, we talked about Jeremy Bernard. We both sounds like we both think he's a viable flex play that fits perfectly into this.
100:07How do you feel about Woody Marks? I agree.
100:10Yeah, I wish Woody Marks was getting the starting job in a game that wasn't against the Jaguars.
100:15Again, they have not allowed 40 yards to a single running back.
100:19However, Woody Marks is reeling off 10 plus yard runs at like the 17th highest rate in the league compared to Dave Montgomery, who was the absolute lowest.
100:27So what you have to bank on here with Woody Marks is either some receptions, which he's had, or some type of
100:34an explosive play, which is tough to do. But what he played 98% snaps once Dave Montgomery went down last week.
100:40So as we have learned, there are worse things you can do in your flex spot than have a running back that
100:47plays even close to 85 plus percent of the snaps.
100:50So this is a rough week. I'm starting Woody Marks in at least one league this week.
100:55What about you? I am also going to have to start Woody Marks in at least one week or at least one league this week for sure.
101:03And Jawan Johnson, I think, is pretty much firmly established as a low end tight end one.
101:08Not great, but could do worse. And again, potential high scoring game.
101:12So I like his outlook this week. I would probably rank these options.
101:16Jeremy Woody, Jawan, you feel the same way? Yes.
101:18Yes. Yeah. The Tyler Shuck broken hand is kind of on my radar.
101:22Now, like with the Giants in that game, it sounds like they might be missing Abdul Carter.
101:28And we already know that Brian Burns is out.
101:30Like Abdul Carter is not practicing at this point.
101:33So maybe the Saints, who allowed a ton of pressure last week, will be able to keep their quarterback upright a bit more often in this game.
101:41So to me, it kind of hinges on the injury report, how I'm into Tyler Shuck and Jawan Johnson versus not.
101:48But let's not forget that prior to last week, Tyler Shuck was one of the top five, six scoring quarterbacks out there.
101:54And it's never a good sign when your quarterback is always handing the football off with just one hand and not touching it with his left hand.
102:02But he can still get there this week. That's for sure.
102:06All right. We'll do a couple more here. This one from Eric sends in on these old wide receivers.
102:11I need a rescue from the Bengay and turf tape squad.
102:15Keenan Allen, Kendrick Bourne and Brandon Cooks. Josh, who's your favorite option?
102:18Yeah, that's my routine in the morning is Bengay and turf tape.
102:22Oh, come on. I think it's Kendrick Bourne for me.
102:25What about you? Kendrick Bourne. He's the guy that he's the guy that's playing the most and is playing on, I guess, the most high powered offense.
102:33Keenan Allen's part time player. So and we did we did hear with the 49ers that they did open the practice window for Christian Kirk.
102:41I'm not sure if that means he's going to play this week.
102:44I did not love the Brandon Cook stuff when I went back and watched it.
102:49I understand he scored a touchdown, but he yeah, he kind of moves his age right now.
102:54And Kendrick Bourne did not take over for quote unquote Marvin Harrison Jr.'s snaps in terms of I don't think Matt.
103:00He has a single drop back in 12 personnel at all.
103:04But, you know, he's going to they're going to have to throw a lot in the second half and they're going to
103:10run a lot of three wide receiver looks. And Kendrick Bourne is going to be out there in those looks.
103:16So Kendrick Bourne is topping my list of these three.
103:19I agree with you on that. OK, last one here.
103:22This one's from Derek. Josh Cameron. Look, you guys, you cannot start Josh Cameron.
103:27It's points per effective block league. I love this points per points per pancake league.
103:31You can start Josh Cameron. Otherwise, you can't start Josh Cameron.
103:35However, really good, interesting, useful player for the Jacksonville Jaguars for sure.
103:38Like I said, they used him on a sacrificial go route to take Quinnia Mitchell off the off the off the map.
103:45I mean, could he play more as the season goes on if they trade Brian Thomas Jr.?
103:50Definitely. But for now, not a guy you can consider starting.
103:53Really, really good player. Well, really cool player, but but not a guy you can start.
103:58You know who was awesome in my points per pancake league last week was DK Metcalf.
104:03His double block on springing Jalen Warren was fantastic.
104:06So I'm not sure if like if the opposition like sauce Garner talks crap to DK Metcalf and gets him fired up.
104:12But it certainly made him look like the best blocking wide receiver in the league last week.
104:18Just want to throw it out there and give some credit to the guy.
104:22Well, you know, he's got all that candy energy.
104:24So he had he had a lot pop to be able to put something into the block there.
104:30So you love to see that. All right. Great group of questions here.
104:34If you've got a lineup dilemma, trade debate or league controversy, the fantasy hotline is open all season long.
104:40So send us your toughest questions and we might just feature them in an upcoming episode, especially if they are tough questions
104:46like they were this week with a bunch of guys that are below the Tony Pollard cliff line.
104:52I'm glad we came out of this. I might be using that for the rest of the rest of the season.
104:58Josh, you know, the Tony Pollard cliff line. If you're running back is ahead of here.
105:03You can start them with some degree of confidence.
105:06If it's below the Tony Pollard cliff line, you might be in some trouble.
105:10You might be in some trouble. All right. That is going to do it line before and the Mendoza line and all that stuff.
105:17And now it's the Pollard line. Now it's the the the Pollard Pollard.
105:21I'll work on that one. The Pollard plateau, the Pollard plateau.
105:24That's where the running back. That's where the running back rankings plateau.
105:28And then you're banged the rest of the way.
105:31I don't know if that's perfect. We'll continue to workshop it.
105:34However, however, that is going to do it for us today.
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105:47Josh, great show for you today. We have a packed lineup for the people on Sunday.
105:52As always, we've got fantasy football live in the morning with me, Boone, Hayden and Josh.
105:57Great to have you back this week. Going to be awesome to have the show with Josh in the morning.
106:03Then make sure you're tuned in for the Josh and Hayden recap show with me, Josh, and obviously Hayden on Sunday night.
106:09And then I'll have the solo Sunday night football fantasy nightcap on the forecast channel.
106:14So Sunday, you're going to be here with us.
106:17We're going to be locked in. Until then, we are out.