0:00What's going on everyone? I'm Matt Harmon. Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast presented by Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
0:07All season long, Toyota is celebrating the passion, traditions, and unforgettable moments that make football America's obsession.
0:12From fantasy football to every kickoff, rivalry, and Sunday ritual.
0:15And we've got a big show for you here today.
0:18We've got a funny, unless you're a Cowboys fan, a funny, kind of sickly twisted Thursday Night Football solo recap.
0:24Talk about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beating the Dallas Cowboys.
0:27What a pathetic performance by Dallas. Absolutely abysmal, shameful stuff on Thursday Night Football.
0:31However, some silver linings on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers side.
0:34You got Bucky Irving. He balls out. I walk you through all of that.
0:38Then, Josh Norris joins the show and we preview the entire Week 5 slate.
0:42We've got some big ones, a lot of things to talk about, some players trending up, some running back twos that you've got questions about.
0:50We get to all of that on the show.
0:53Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
0:56Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast Nightcap. And it is a hell of a night to talk ball.
1:01Not a hell of a night for producer Colin, for Ray Garvin, for Cowboys Nation.
1:06Because the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have beat the Dallas Cowboys 24-16.
1:09I will say, and the text records show this, okay?
1:12I thought the Bucs were going to blow that game at the end.
1:16I thought Todd Bowles was this close to a true Bowles masterclass.
1:19And you know what? Frankly, if it wasn't for Jake Ferguson and some absolute nonsense at the catch point there, I think
1:26they probably would have blown that game. I think the Bucs probably would have blown that game.
1:31And you know what? If that would have happened, I think they would have deserved it.
1:36But because we'll just get right into one of the best performances of the night.
1:40Yeah, maybe me in the chat talking about, you know, what do you guys think about producer Colin?
1:46How do you think he's doing right now? Probably not so great.
1:49Actually, I know not so great based on the pre-show chat.
1:53Anyways, more importantly, one of the best performances of the night was from the guy we're showing on the screen right here.
1:59If you're watching with us on YouTube, Bucky Irving.
2:0221 carries, 165 yards. Two catches? Yeah, that's right.
2:05Over 170 yards from scrimmage. Two total touchdowns. One long 72-yard run.
2:08I want to see what the yards over-expected were for Bucky Irving on that one, okay?
2:13Not 72 yards. Probably like 75. He definitely looked like he was going to get hit in the back, but he finds some creases.
2:20Boom. Runs that thing for over 70 yards. On the first play of the second half.
2:25Emeka Ibuka punches in. A rushing touchdown afterwards. Bucky Irving was one of the best players on the field tonight.
2:31Bucky Irving was awesome. Man, when he is rolling, he is so freaking fun to watch.
2:36And the Cowboys really didn't have a lot of answers for him tonight.
2:39He also rips off an explosive play, the final one of the night.
2:43I mean, just, he was great. So, to take him off at the goal line after he punched in a goal line touchdown.
2:50Yeah, that's right. I'm upset by it. I'm upset.
2:53I was upset by that. Sean Tucker doesn't get it in on the fourth down when they should have just kicked the field goal.
3:00Tampa Bay. They tempt fate on that one by pulling Bucky Irving at the goal line.
3:05And what do we get? We get that nonsense.
3:08But don't worry. The Cowboys, despite going, driving down, getting the touchdown to George Pickens.
3:12Told you guys I was coming, by the way.
3:15You know, I get a lot of stuff wrong.
3:17So, let me victory lap this one moment here.
3:20Told you George Pickens was getting his first touchdown against this Bucs defense.
3:24Which did play better than I would have expected.
3:27We'll get into that in just a second. But, yeah.
3:30I thought Dallas was going to come back and win this one because Bowles tempted fate.
3:34But they were rewarded on the drive after that because Jake Ferguson, I guess, just can't catch football.
3:40I mean, insane stuff. Kirk Herbstreet says, Jake Ferguson, usually a sure-handed tight end.
3:44And that's the craziest thing he's said all season.
3:47And he said some really questionable stuff when the Cleveland Browns were on Thursday in football last week.
3:52We'll leave it at that. Okay. Let's talk about the game here a little bit.
3:57Actionable takeaways on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers side because they won this football game.
4:01You got to give Daniels a lot of credit.
4:03You got to give Jalen Daniels a ton of credit for what he's done.
4:08He's not doing anything spectacular. But keeping the ship afloat.
4:11Taking what's there. Occasionally a pretty nice scramble. There was one on third down at one point in the game where he
4:17tries to get out of the left off left tackle.
4:20And one of those moments where actually I think it was probably the sea gap.
4:25I'd have to go back and look at it.
4:27But that was one of those moments where it's like, okay, these guys in the NFL are faster.
4:33Right? They're a little bit faster than what you're probably seeing in college.
4:37Doesn't quite get the edge there. He gets brought down.
4:40But nevertheless, only 3.3 yards per carry for Jalen Daniels.
4:43Still had some nice timely runs to keep things moving.
4:45Had a really good third down run on one of the final Tampa Bay Buccaneers drives there at the end of the game.
4:52So great stuff from him. I think he has just kept, even in the first game, I know he had the two interceptions against Green Bay Packers.
5:00He was still solid game manager type stuff. Just hand that ball to Bucky Irving.
5:0521 carries for Bucky Irving. 25 pass attempts for Jalen Daniels.
5:08I mean, man. That's good stuff. That's a good balance here.
5:11That's a good balance here. You've got to love to see that.
5:15A couple of receiver runs, like I mentioned here.
5:18Chris Godwin got a true power concept run. Emeka Ibuka had the run as well that ultimately ended up in a touchdown.
5:24I mean, they can't really throw it to him consistently.
5:27Finally, nine targets for 38 yards for Emeka Ibuka.
5:30Obviously, we know it's going to be a slog with the current quarterback situation.
5:34And it's just been not a well-designed offense all season long.
5:37So if you did have to start Emeka Ibuka, you got away with it big time.
5:42There was at least one league where I did have to leave him in at a wide receiver spot because I just
5:49wasn't confident with some of the injuries on Sunday.
5:51So got away with it on that one. He ends up coming away with 14.2 fantasy points in this one.
5:57And again, he leads the team in routes, only 28 routes, 90% route participation.
6:02That's great. Just not a lot there for the Bucs receivers in this one.
6:06But I will say another explosive play to Tez Johnson who's got a role on a deep corner route where Deron Bland blew the coverage.
6:13I mean, Deron Bland and Jake Ferguson, I don't know, man.
6:17There's some tough stuff there. I don't really know what they're going to do about Deron Bland.
6:22Just so many mistakes in coverage. Makes the mistake there.
6:25As our buddy Zane says on the screen here, even when Deron Bland makes a good play, it's a bad play.
6:31He's referring to the third down. What could have ended the game if he just caught that interception bobbles out of his hands.
6:38Probably kind of housed that thing, picked six. We might be talking about a totally different stream here tonight.
6:43So yeah, again, credit to the Bucs. They win this game.
6:47It's a bad defense on the other side of it.
6:50Christian Parker hiring has been one of the most disappointing things about the early NFL season.
6:55That defense is so, so messy. So disorganized on the back end.
6:58They don't pass routes off well. They're guarding space a ton.
7:01Watch a team like the Jacksonville Jaguars in the secondary.
7:04By the way, the original hiring of Anthony Campanelli was not met with a bunch of fanfare and national media hype like the Christian Parker thing was.
7:12And again, I thought process-wise, everything you heard about Christian Parker was supposed to be a good signing.
7:18I'm not blasting him necessarily for this, but you just watch what that defense does in the secondary and how well they
7:24pass routes off and how they're never just guarding grass.
7:27They're always closing off routes, like shutting these zone coverage windows.
7:31And then you watch what Dallas is doing. It's a completely, completely different thing.
7:35And for all of the obvious ways in which the Bucs did not have a passing game advantage in this one, because it's an undrafted free agent quarterback.
7:43He's a young guy. It hasn't been a good offense overall this year.
7:47They still make way too many mistakes up front, blown assignments, penalties, the whole deal.
7:52Like this is a veteran group and they're still making those mistakes.
7:55Despite all that, this is a bad matchup for this Cowboys team because Tampa Bay does at least throw some motions at you shifts.
8:02And just like right now at this point, Dallas on the back end has no idea what to do with those, no idea what to do with those.
8:11So at this point, I think this is where we are with this Cowboys defense for the Bucs offense.
8:16Again, I just want to see them continue to establish Bucky Irving because when they can get him into a rhythm, he is a really, really good player.
8:25And I know we talked about it on the panic meter episode this week that we were worried about Bucky.
8:31I mean, I feel like we had a right to be after the coaching staff said, Hey, we got to get Kenny Gainwell.
8:38We got to get Sean Tucker more involved. And they did get Sean Tucker more involved at the goal line in last week's game.
8:45And they come back here and the failed fourth.
8:47I hope they just ditch that nonsense. There's no reason that a guy like Bucky Irving, who has great vision, great instincts,
8:54finds the lanes in these short area. I don't care how big he is.
8:58I don't care. Stop size profiling your running backs.
9:01This guy's a good short yardage back. I don't, it's just kind of crazy to me.
9:06He's good in the receiving. And maybe he's a smaller player, can't handle it.
9:10He once again was kind of like nicked up with something here tonight.
9:14He's always got a little something going on. So maybe I just want to, you know, take, give him a breather every
9:20now and again, give him a breather on like first and 10.
9:24Take some of those carries away from him. Keep him in for the critical down and distances here, because I think the guy is such a smart player.
9:32I remain a really big fan of his game.
9:35I like a lot of what I've seen from him.
9:38He didn't have any big mistakes here tonight. He will make those every now and again.
9:43So I feel like at this point, Tampa Bay is passing game is probably just not going to be what they wanted it to be.
9:50I feel like that's rather obvious. So the most likely way that they can find a metronome, a consistent beat on offense
9:57is with Bucky Irving at this point. So I'd like to see them continue to give him some more work.
10:03Okay. Upcoming schedule for Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They got the Pittsburgh Steelers week six at home, Carolina Panthers, Atlanta Falcons, Chicago Bears week 10 by.
10:10So a little bit of a mixed bag there.
10:13I'm not coming out of this performance necessarily hyped up about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but they get their first win here.
10:19Nice performance from Bucky Irving. You know, Mecca Buka had a couple of moments, including the rushing touchdown, a couple moments he's probably going to want back.
10:27Other than that, it's just it's just kind of some role players here for Tampa Bay.
10:32Not too shocking on that one. Okay, let's flip it to the other side of the ball here.
10:38I mean, Dallas is offense to start this slow.
10:40I know they put it together in the end and for George Pickens to come away with again, his first touchdown of the year.
10:47He comes away with over 100 yards, 13 targets leads the team.
10:51That's great. But man, to start this slow. So discouraging, so discouraging for Dallas because I've been telling you guys this on the show watching this Bucs defense.
10:59This has not been a good unit at all this year.
11:03And this is a veteran team with an offensive line.
11:06You're getting your one of your best players back.
11:08Obviously, now Tyler Guyton goes down late in the game, but that was late in the game.
11:13I'm talking in the first half. They did not have a lot of consistent answers for the blitz like free runners are
11:20coming at Dak pretty consistently in the first half.
11:23I don't like to see that. That was a disturbing and a really letdown performance for Dallas.
11:28They started a little too slow at times throughout the course of the season.
11:32I feel like we need to keep our eyes on that.
11:35That's a little weird to me. They're also not pushing quite as many of the kind of schematic levers as Nate and I talked about.
11:43Like they've gone from a team that was pretty good in the static score to now they're one of the lower teams in the league.
11:50And that's great when you have these awesome receivers.
11:53You have Dak. He can do all the point stuff at the line of scrimmage, get everybody in the right spots, do the protections, the whole deal.
12:01But things have just been a little bit too shaky from an offensive standpoint for me with how talented this team is.
12:07Tonight was definitely the worst version of it. So I'm maybe overreacting to an island game moment here.
12:13But nevertheless, I feel like we've seen just a little bit too much herky-jerky on that side of the ball.
12:19You definitely felt that here. C.D. Lamb coming away with two catches for nine yards.
12:23Again, I know he was a little banged up on the final drives.
12:27He was rather invisible throughout the night. That is crazy to me considering the type of defense they are going against here where I just watched last week.
12:36They did such an excellent job getting C.D. weaponized in targets against man coverage with the linebackers, the safeties, the nickel corner.
12:42Like Jalen Petrie lined up one-on-one, which is not really his deal.
12:46Those Texans players, even if I pointed out that they have issues up the spine and the linebackers and safeties and coverage,
12:52I mean, they're a way better unit than Tampa Bay who's left these wide-open windows for much lesser quarterbacks consistently this season.
12:59And man, just didn't work out at all for C.D.
13:02Lamb here today. This is going to go down as one of the biggest surprises, in my opinion, of week five.
13:08Really disappointing result for C.D. Obviously, we'll have to go back and watch the tape to see exactly what happened here.
13:14But those throws were just not available for whatever reason.
13:17Not a lot of clean, quick-hitting passes for Dak Prescott to C.D.
13:21Lamb. I was surprised by that, especially considering you know you're coming in here and you're going to face some of those blitzes against Todd Bowles.
13:29Just didn't feel like they were really prepared for that one.
13:32Again, which is really discouraging because you know you're going to get that.
13:36You know exactly what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are under Todd Bowles.
13:39So again, really disappointing on that one. The other thing I would say, too, where they did actually pick on the matchups
13:46that you can get this Bucs defense on is on the perimeter.
13:50With the quick stops, we did finally see some slants to George Pickens.
13:53I feel like that has been missing throughout this season.
13:56And just those easy button slants that we saw Dak and Pickens just completely in sync on last year.
14:02Hadn't seen that as much this year. And it really felt like great point from Ted Wynn here.
14:08It felt like they should have been running those earlier because there is these just a cavern of space that the Bucs
14:14play soft zone, soft off man coverage. Zone that turns into match, whatever you want to say it is.
14:20And Pickens is such an easy answer on those.
14:22They did find those, but it was way too late in the game for my taste.
14:27That is something that they should have come out with a lot earlier.
14:31So I'm just not sure what the game plan was here for Dallas.
14:35Really bizarre contest for them from a game plan perspective.
14:38Devontae Williams gets out here. He gets the touchdown.
14:41There's seventh touchdown so far this year. He's just a touchdown print fest because he's the only running back that touches the ball.
14:48The only running other running back who got involved here outside of Devontae Williams who touched the ball only 14 times in
14:54this game because they had to throw the ball so much.
14:57Being a negative game script, the only running back to touch the ball is fullback Hunter Lepke who had a five yard carry in a short yardage situation.
15:06Devontae Williams is just a great fantasy pick. He will remain a great fantasy pick, but yeah, they didn't really ever establish
15:12a consistent ground game here in this one, which is rather predictable.
15:16But I also don't think they offset that with any easy rhythm, quick passes.
15:20So just a weird and really discouraging night for the Cowboys offense.
15:24We can sit here and throw stones at the Cowboys defense.
15:27I think a lot of people will. It's it's deserved, obviously.
15:30But the fact that the offense came out that flat in this matchup where you have so many advantages on that side of the ball.
15:38I thought that was really discouraging. And it just makes you kind of question everything, in my opinion, with this Cowboys team.
15:44Again, they're an offense first team. They have to be an offense first team to not have the advantages on Todd Bowles there.
15:51I thought was pretty disturbing because I mean, I don't think the Bucks are a good team.
15:56Don't think they're well coached and the defense is problematic.
15:59So that's where we are there. OK, upcoming schedule for the Dallas Cowboys.
16:03We got the Green Bay Packers. We got the Philadelphia Eagles.
16:06We got the Arizona Cardinals. We got the Indianapolis Colts.
16:09San Francisco 49ers in week 10. Titans in week 11.
16:12So a lot of winnable games there for Dallas.
16:15But at this point, at this point, they're not two and three.
16:19Not good. Not good, especially when you have the Eagles in the division kind of going through a little retooling moment here.
16:25So, yeah, producer Colin in the coping corner. Ray Garvin not wearing the cowboy hat, hopefully on Tuesday.
16:31It's a tough time in Cowboys world. And you know what?
16:34You deserve it because that was that was a pitiful effort here by Dallas tonight.
16:38So, yes, official statement from the Yahoo fantasy forecast team.
16:41We have come to the decision, a group decision to place producer Colin in the coping corner.
16:46So that's where we are now. OK, that's going to do it for the Thursday night football solo recap.
16:52Appreciate you guys hanging out here. A lot of interesting takeaways from this one.
16:56Let's get Bucky Irving the ball more and let's get out of here.
17:00Good luck in all your other week five matchups.
17:03All right. Now on to the rest of the show.
17:06The week five preview with Josh Norris. Let's get into it.
17:09What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon. Welcome to the Yahoo fantasy forecast presented by Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
17:16All season long, Toyota is celebrating the passion, traditions and unforgettable moments that make football America's obsession.
17:21From fantasy football to every kickoff rivalry and Sunday ritual.
17:24And it is a hell of a day to talk ball and joining me to talk a little football.
17:30It is Josh Norris. Josh, what's going on, man?
17:32How you doing? Matt, last week I came in a bit hot.
17:36Hand up. Came in a bit hot last week.
17:39I'm going to match your energy today. OK, so wherever you put us, that's where I'm at, too.
17:44We're ready to have a great show. I like your energy last week.
17:48I want you to run that back. I enjoyed that.
17:51I think the people enjoyed it, too. There are a few listeners and viewers that say, I've never seen this side of Josh before.
17:58So you know what? I think the people liked it.
18:01I think you should bring that exact same energy back today, my friend.
18:05OK, done. You asked for what you get. We're ready.
18:08Great. I'm excited about that. OK, here's what we do on the preview show every single week.
18:13We've got Josh's six pack of fantasy questions. We've got my three games that no one cares about.
18:18But I'm going to try to make you care about at least something in all of those three matchups.
18:24And we have your questions in the Toyota fantasy hotline.
18:27We've got a great topic that you guys contributed to today.
18:30But before we get to any of that, I want to show a little post here from our friend Lord Reeves.
18:37Rich Rebar himself to just make the note that, you know, we think that we know things right now.
18:42We think we feel really good about this. But weeks one to four, you know, it doesn't really mean anything at this time.
18:49A year ago, you know, some of these hurt my feelings.
18:52Roma Dunze was wide receiver three in overall scoring.
18:55I wish that was still the case. Well, Quentin Johnson was wide receiver four.
18:59Emeka Ibuka, Keenan Allen were top 10 scorers. Ricky Pearsall was fourth in receiving yards.
19:04I wish that was still true instead of seeing things for Ricky Pearsall to be fourth in receiving yards this season.
19:10Somebody clip that. OK, Trey McBride was being outscored by two other tight ends at this point last year.
19:16J.K. Dobbins was fourth in the NFL in rushing yards.
19:19Daniel Jones and Justin Herbert were top five passers.
19:21You get the idea. We still have a long way to go, even if some teams started slowly and are likely feeling the squeeze.
19:29So, yes, of course, you've all seen the stats out there.
19:32We've talked about them. I'm sure our fantasy account is tweeting them out.
19:36You know, if you're this whatever, this percentage, you start you start one in four.
19:40You've got this lower percentage make the playoffs. Don't worry about any of that.
19:44OK, yeah, you lose more games. You have a lower percentage of going to the playoffs.
19:49Breaking news. There's a revelation for you. But you guys out there, you guys are going to be that low percentage.
19:55You're going to get it done. You're going to fight back.
19:59You're going to make the postseason. Don't give up.
20:01Never quit because we've seen some mirages, including your team's maybe slow start.
20:05That's a mirage, too. So, Matt, I am looking, though, at like the top 12 scoring running backs and the top 12 scoring wide receivers.
20:13Those all kind of make sense. You know, I kind of would expect those guys to continue on to produce as as we go along.
20:20So as you were saying all those names, I was kind of like trying to poke and prod and see which of
20:27these might not last through the entire season. And I'm a bit flummoxed.
20:31Like I'm a bit confused of which of these names might not hit.
20:35But I guess that's the point of the next 13 weeks.
20:38We have a whole bunch more surprises, despite thinking that we know everything after the opening four weeks of the season.
20:44That is indeed the point. Right. Right. Yeah, I was feeling really confident in myself about the Odunze and Ricky Pearsall breakouts at this point last year.
20:52Things change. Of course, usually, by the way, guys just get hurt.
20:56Right. J.K. Dobbins was fourth in the NFL. He got hurt.
20:59Emeka Abuka got hurt. That's the thing. Chaos will hit some of these players.
21:03We can't see that coming just yet, but it certainly will come for some of these guys.
21:08Hopefully none of the players we're showing on the screen right now, because I love a lot of these guys.
21:14I have a lot of these guys on my fantasy team.
21:18The Kenneth Walkers, the JSNs, the Kyron Williams, the Chris Alave.
21:21Hopefully none of these guys get hurt, but some guys will.
21:24That's enough little preamble here, Josh. I'm just trying to give the people a pep talk as you're seeing all these like, oh, you started 0-4.
21:32Only 5% chance to go to the playoffs. You guys are going to be the 5%ers out there.
21:37So with that, let's start talking week five here.
21:40Josh, what is your first question of the slate?
21:43Yeah, let me pull it up. First question. Well, I have it here as who replaces Jamar Chase and maybe Tee Higgins
21:49against one of the worst defenses in the league.
21:52However, today in practice, we see Jamar Chase trotting on the field in pads with a helmet.
21:57So maybe this is just a Tee Higgins question.
22:00But Matt, I still think it's extremely important because they're facing off against the Miami Dolphins.
22:04Heavy favorites in this one. The Dolphins from the Great Ritri Bar have allowed a league high 78% completion rate so far this season.
22:12And if you even condense it closer to the line of scrimmage on throws within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, they've allowed a 90.5% completion rate.
22:20So I guess the names I'm throwing at you are the alternatives, right?
22:24At Tee Higgins is out. We're looking at our guy, Dante Myers.
22:27We're looking at Mike Gesicki. We're looking at a few others.
22:31Mitchell Tinsley, if you want, the Colby Youngs. Who is your favorite among that group?
22:35I think it's Mike Gesicki. I think Mike Gesicki is my favorite.
22:39Dante Myers, definitely intriguing. Of course, we talked about him on Stats vs.
22:43Film. Justin Boone and I talked about him on yesterday's episode here on The Forecast.
22:47A guy that I definitely think is a promising and interesting player.
22:51Pretty fascinating in the open field in terms of his burst and explosion.
22:55Some more real wide receiver stuff than I probably expected.
22:58But, I mean, Gesicki, this is a proven thing.
23:00When Tee Higgins misses time, Gesicki just essentially becomes this team's number two wide receiver.
23:05He's run zero routes as an inline tight end, as I've said a couple of times this week.
23:10He's a slot receiver for this team, a big slot receiver.
23:13And when you look at this team right now, they're dead last in under center rate.
23:18They're spreading the field a ton. Some of their heavy personnel vs.
23:22three receiver set data is a little wonky because of the aforementioned Mike Gesicki.
23:26I see a lot of shotgun spread stuff from this team.
23:29Very static. Dead last in motion at the snap.
23:32How is that not just going to be a great matchup against this Dolphins defense where you said they give up so many of these layup completions?
23:40I just feel like Gesicki's coming out of this one with six plus catches and feeling pretty good about it.
23:46A hundred percent. I think he's one of these tight end flex plays that we keep talking about on a weekly basis
23:53that you can have two tight ends in your lineups.
23:56Just, you know, go heavy personnel and fancy football.
23:58That's the trend in 2026. Yeah, I mean, seven point favorites here.
24:02And I have some stats on him filling in for T Higgins over the last two seasons.
24:07Like in 2024, T Higgins missed week two. Mike Gesicki was the tight end five.
24:11T missed weeks eight and nine. Gesicki was the tight end 16.
24:15But then the tight end one. Last year in week 13, T plays below 75% of snaps.
24:20Gesicki is a tight end two. Week 16, the same thing.
24:23And Mike Gesicki is the tight end 13. And it's not like Matt.
24:27The guy hasn't already produced this season. I mean, he's the tight end 10 in points per game right now.
24:33Week one, 16 points, then 11 points and 11 points in weeks three and week four.
24:38And that's with, you know, him playing around 50, 55% of the snaps.
24:42I think that could scoot on up to 65, 78% of the snaps if T Higgins misses this one.
24:48So I'm with you about Mike Gesicki. But we really do have to talk about one of the best stories in the NFL and Dante Myers.
24:55I'll give you the floor. Last point on Gesicki, too.
24:58Never forget that when Joe Burrow was maybe starting to hold the Bengals feet to the fire about keeping his guys.
25:05Ryan's like, we need to get T under contract.
25:07We need to get Chase under contract. And we need to keep Mike Gesicki as a free agent.
25:13It felt kind of one of those moments because he's like me.
25:16Me. Revenge game. By the way, it is a revenge game.
25:19He's an integral part to this team's offense. But yeah, Myers, this team has really kind of been hurting for a true wide receiver three.
25:27Andre Oshavos is obviously on IR. I think he's not really like a needle moving player.
25:32I think Myers can move the needle a little bit here.
25:35Josh, I think he separated pretty well on these kind of quick out routes.
25:39You know, when you look at like the Jags defense, they're particularly good at closing those cover two windows along the boundary.
25:46And so there were some of those throws where it was open for a flash with Myers, but then closed pretty quickly.
25:52Not a lot of yards after catch opportunities. I would say the Dolphins defense very much the opposite.
25:58So I liked what I saw from Myers this week.
26:01This could be one of those moments where in four weeks from now, you and I are talking with each other.
26:07And like, you remember when we spent like 10 minutes talking about Dante Myers and how weird that was.
26:13But for a one week sample size, I do think he's got some decent odds to put up some production here.
26:19At the same time, I mean, football gets kind of stale and just the story of him.
26:24And I won't go into it because I'm sure you talked about the show is truly fantastic from CFL to driving from
26:31Atlanta to Cincinnati to play catch with Joe Burrow and all that type of stuff.
26:35It's a great story. What I do like is that it's not as if these pass catchers have to win deep down
26:42the field or run these multi breaking concepts and all that stuff to score points against the Dolphins off or defense.
26:48Like we outlined 10 yards and in just the layups think of TG Hawkinson last week, Dante Myers.
26:53And we talk about shoestrings all the time was a shoestring away from a super long screen touchdown.
26:59The juice that he has in the first two or three steps is outrageous.
27:03So obviously Jamar Chase is the likeliest player to get a screen out there.
27:07But let's say he's isolated to one side and they have a bunch to the other.
27:12They can check into a call for Dante Myers.
27:14And if the Dolphins can't tackle, then boom, Dante Myers is off the races or run some of these underneath concepts on top of it.
27:22So I agree with you that he is my second play here.
27:25And I think I am starting him in a fancy league this week.
27:29What a time to be alive. Josh Norris starting Dante Myers real quick before we move off of this one.
27:35Where are you up with Chase Brown right now?
27:38You know, he's running back 14 and points per game.
27:41It's not like he's been bad, but they have just essentially given up on the under center run game.
27:47So you're going to kind of have to be good from the gun if you're Chase Brown, which we know that's just
27:53a thinner margin for error from a rush game perspective.
27:56Does any of it matter? Because you're still going to be playing in the Bengals offense.
28:01You're getting 81 to 82 percent of the running back rushes.
28:0481 percent of the touches overall. Like, where are we at with the Chase Brown fantasy outlook right now?
28:10Yeah, I'll be the 72nd fantasy analyst to call him an awesome buy low this week.
28:15And this might be the buy low window for him.
28:18And, you know, I got a haircut today, Matt, while I still have time to get a haircut.
28:23Let's put it that way. Me too. Well, you're in a better situation than I am.
28:28Let's put it that way. I just meant I got a haircut today.
28:32I was only commenting on the first part of your sentence.
28:35The second part, you know, anyways, continue. Okay, sure.
28:38You ever watch Doug? I remember when Doug got a haircut and yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:42Nickelodeon. And he shows up and and they just like do this.
28:46And then they're like, okay, go on your way because he just has those three hairs that stick up.
28:51That's basically me getting a haircut too. Anyways, my my my barber, he's hurting at the running back to position.
28:57And I told him to trade Luther Burden and Travis Achan for Chase Brown and send that one out there.
29:03Uh, now I don't know if that person would necessarily do it, but that is kind of the realm I'm thinking of
29:10sending in trade offers for Chase Brown, because I, I really think that this is the window we can do it.
29:16Because if he's going to have any success, it's going to come this week and gets the Dolphins.
29:22It's going to be much more difficult to do it after that.
29:25I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, kind of a I mean, I think Luther Burden's a good player, but
29:32I mean, is he he's not going to make the difference in your fantasy season based on what we've seen so far?
29:38Uh, like Chase Brown potentially could and obviously Travis Achan.
29:41I don't know about all that. So yeah, that's a pretty good trade recommendation by you.
29:46Uh, glad you're talking shop, uh, in the barber shop in terms of fantasy football there.
29:51There you go. Okay. Question number two, Josh, where are we going here for week five?
29:56Oh, the Eagles are in dire straits. All right.
29:58The Eagles are projected for the second fewest points of the week.
30:0217. By the way, Matt, this is a neutral site game.
30:05I guess you could call that in Wendley Stadium in London.
30:09Seven and a half point underdogs. They are to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
30:12So my question to you, are you starting anyone?
30:15Are you starting Jalen Hurts or Makai Lemon or Dontavian Wicks or Will Shipley off the waiver wire?
30:20Or is this just such a falling off a cliff disaster franchise at this moment that we drafted so many of these
30:27players highly that we can't even touch it? I mean, I think I'm, I'm starting Jalen Hurts in a super flex league because there's no alternative.
30:35Like he, he's him and Sam Darnold. That's my options.
30:38There we go. Uh, will I rank him inside my top 12 quarterbacks?
30:41Probably not, but he won't be too far off of that.
30:45I didn't get any Will Shipley, uh, waiver wire exposure.
30:48There was always, always somebody that was a little more excited than me.
30:52And I just go through the, I mean, my God, look at these, look at these receivers, man.
30:57I know I see Makai Lemon, but Colin is first round pick and his slow start is the most predictable thing of all time.
31:04Um, so not shocked by that. Don Tameen Wicks obviously is still a good player, but he should not be the number
31:11one perimeter player, uh, on your football team. So it's just really dark for the Philadelphia Eagles.
31:16I do think the, like the sky is falling narrative on the entire franchise is a little overstated or that they're going
31:22to start selling off all other pieces and everything.
31:25I, I think they're probably going to say, Hey, we've seen four games of this so far this year.
31:31This is not, this is, it's not our year.
31:33And we're probably already starting to think about what's the next era at the quarterback position.
31:38And let's start loading up some draft picks for the future.
31:41I think this team will be fine going forward.
31:44I don't think they're going to be like one of the worst teams in the NFL, but from a fantasy standpoint, I
31:51don't see a single clear cut must start on this group.
31:54Yeah. I think I somewhat disagree that Howie Roseman thinks that this Philadelphia Eagles team is going to be fine this season.
32:01And I think if they get an offer for like a third round pick for safe one Barkley, they might do that.
32:07You know, I'm, I'm not to the point and the Eagles are not going to be to a point where they sell
32:14off, you know, Devante Adams or any of their star defensive players or any of that sort.
32:19Yeah. Kyle Lemon, obviously, or anything like that. But these, you know, older players or ones that they believe might be on a decline.
32:26I am of the opinion that Howie believes that the quickest way to do a reset is to do it all in
32:32one sweep and to do it quickly. In order to do that, you have these draft picks like with everything lining up in 2028.
32:40I think Saquon is going to be 31 years of age at that point.
32:44So I don't know if another team will come calling while he's in with these hamstrings.
32:49But Matt, I mean, it all comes back to the offensive line.
32:52Like my outline and hope for Saquon this season was all built on believing in a franchise that has been one of
32:59the most consistent over the last decade in the NFL.
33:02Understanding that their offensive line was the most important part of the offseason.
33:06All those guys being healthy ahead of week one and in training camp.
33:10And then they go from there and they build on from there.
33:13And here we are in week five. It's a new starting right tackle.
33:17It's a third string center. It's a third string left guard.
33:20And none of those guys are really coming back other than Landon Dickerson, who was horrific in week one.
33:26And we'll even see what a shell of himself he is when he's back on the field.
33:31And so it all starts from there. Like that is where the rushing attack stems from.
33:36And then the passing attack stems from the rushing attack.
33:39And I don't think any of that is really going to get fixed from here on out.
33:44No, I don't either. And I mean, look, you couldn't have seen this coming.
33:48You couldn't have seen this coming when you're talking about Saquon Barkley in August.
33:52I wish I did. Yeah, whatever, dude. That's not your fault.
33:55I mean, I don't think you need to. You don't need to come on this podcast and explain yourself about the Saquon Barkley stuff.
34:03You could not have seen this coming. Nobody could.
34:05Nobody knew Lane Johnson was going to retire after three games.
34:09Crazy. Yeah, I mean, and all respect to him to do it.
34:12He has every right. It's his career. It's his life.
34:15All respect him to do it. But nobody could have seen that coming.
34:19No, I think Landon Dickerson is the first player in NFL history to bench himself for a performance in week one.
34:25So just like it is. It is what it is.
34:28This stuff happens every year. There's always chaos in the NFL.
34:32This is a chaotic situation. Now, I don't know.
34:34I don't know if anybody's calling for soon to be 30 year old Saquon Barkley on a big deal dealing with injuries.
34:41Like who's who's making the call for Saquon Barkley in that scenario?
34:44That's by the way, who's going to make. Let me rephrase that.
34:48Who's going to make the call for Saquon Barkley in that scenario?
34:52And it's going to save his fantasy season. If that's like the copium here.
34:56I've got three teams for you. You ready? First one.
34:59Minnesota Vikings. All right. What if their offense continues to struggle?
35:02He's the jumpstart of that to match their defense and to actually give them a playoff chance.
35:07All right. Number two. What about the Seattle Seahawks?
35:10Jadarian Price. It's been a first round pick at him.
35:13He's banged up. Zach Charbonnet coming back. Sure. But is your backfield going to be Emmanuel Wilson and Zach Charbonnet?
35:19Or do they need the game breaker that they got last year that won them the Super Bowl in Kenneth Walker, the third.
35:26Third team. Denver Broncos. Sean Payton. Not seeking a bit hot, but just everything's not working offensively.
35:31And Matt, I mean, if Bo Nix is going to dump it off 10 times a game, wouldn't it be better to
35:37dump it off 10 times a game to Saquon Barkley instead of RJ Harvey?
35:42Just the thought. We'll talk about the Denver Broncos.
35:44I'm not sure that that's all that great of a situation right now.
35:48But we'll see what comes with that one. But yeah, I like Zane's suggestion of here's my fake trade where the Eagles get another 2028 second.
35:56Like, I actually don't. There's no scenario where they're getting a second round pick for Saquon Barkley because I mean, whoever takes
36:02him probably has to cut him at the end of the year.
36:06And that depends on what he even looks like.
36:09I think this would be much more live, Josh, if he was not currently injured.
36:13If he was going to play some football games, I think this would be a little more live.
36:19But that Viking suggestion is not a bad one.
36:21If they win this week, they're 5-0. They just look at it like, hey, Aaron Jones has been good for us there.
36:28But their zone run game stinks. They're like all their Nate and I were talking about this on 301 today.
36:34All their zone stuff is kind of like it needs to just go in the trash at this point.
36:39But Saquon Barkley has always been a better man gap runner if you look at the history of his rushing efficiency.
36:46So that actually could be a pretty interesting one if that does indeed happen.
36:50I will say, though, for this week, I know you don't rank here at Yahoo.
36:54You got out of that one, which congratulations to you.
36:57But it was never in. Take the compliment. Either way, congratulations to you.
37:01I'm jealous. If you were to rank, though, where would Will Shipley even fall for you as somebody that does have to do the rankings?
37:09I have no idea where to place him. I mean, you get down to kind of the all right.
37:14You get him off the waiver wire. You get into the kind of David Montgomery, you know, maybe one of the Patriots running back zones.
37:22Tony Pollard. I'm inclined to kind of put him there, which is late 20s at the position.
37:27That doesn't really speak a lot of optimism here.
37:30No, not at all. That would be exactly where I was going to put him.
37:34Like, I don't know. Running back 27, 28. It's bile.
37:37I mean, consensus rankings this week, I think have him as like running back 31.
37:42Oh, that's rough. Look, this Jaguars defensive line is incredible.
37:45They are tall, long, beefy, athletic dudes. And they stuff gaps and force you to work backwards.
37:50And again, this is against a whole bunch of backup offensive linemen.
37:53That's rough. You know, Will Shipley is one of those rare players, though, Matt, that actually looks bigger in the NFL than he did in college.
38:01I thought. And he did a whole bunch in college in terms of catch passes and run the ball.
38:07And I understand the NFL. He's kind of been mostly a receiving back.
38:11The other area that has me really concerned is one.
38:14Jalen Hurts has now been a quarterback to score in eight of his past 12 regular season games going back to last season.
38:20And he really got shut down by the Rams and man coverage last week.
38:25They played 55 percent of man coverage in the second half, according to Retrieve Bar.
38:29Jalen Hurts went two for nine for 10 yards.
38:32It's because they have some really good corners against these, let's say, to be desired wide receivers.
38:37And guess what? The Jaguars have some really good corners against these wide receivers again.
38:41So I think it's a question of Jalen Hurts tops.
38:44I don't know, 135 passing yards this week. I think they're going to get blown out.
38:49I honestly think the Jags are going to blow.
38:52Jags might be the best team in the NFL and their defense is fantastic.
38:56I think people probably still aren't talking about how good that defense is.
39:00You mentioned some of the stuff up front. But the back end is just this is the type of coverage to the Jalen Hurts traditionally struggles against.
39:08Sometimes when you get them against these man looks, when you have A.J.
39:12Brown and Devontae Smith. Yeah. Hell yeah. Of course, that's awesome.
39:15But those are the coverages that he would be really aggressive against.
39:19This zone looks that's a lot of the too high split safety stuff where the windows close really quickly.
39:24I mean, they're going to try to, which is kind of what they did with Joe Burrow last week.
39:30They're going to try to dare Hurts to consistently and bait him to throw into the whole shot of cover two.
39:36And we'll see if he can do it to these guys.
39:40You know, it hasn't really happened so far consistently this year.
39:43I mean, even Makai Lemon, the theory of the case for Makai Lemon was he's going to come in here and run
39:49a lot of these out cuts off under center play action, which is what the Packers did really well with guys like Jaden Reed.
39:57He was going to kind of be a better even Dante mewicks at times.
40:01They're not doing any of that stuff at this point.
40:04So I really don't see a lot of paths forward for this Eagles offense from a fantasy standpoint.
40:09I don't think the team will totally bottom out, but I think it is on to the next era.
40:15Last point on all this. Did you see that Nick Sirianni called Damian Pierce a starting level NFL running back?
40:21I did. I did. Maybe that's a statement that Nick Sirianni is living in like 2023 still and not 2026 or whatever
40:27year that Damian Pierce had that was decent. Maybe that's the problem.
40:31You know, maybe he's not up with the times enough.
40:34He's listening to August fantasy football podcast from the 2023 preseason.
40:37That's where he's listening to for the Damian Pierce stuff.
40:40Matt, I do have one more question on this real quick.
40:43Okay. Devontae Smith, I understand he's injured, but he is the wide receiver 13 in points per game right now.
40:49Is this your sell high window on him? No.
40:52See, I think like if he comes back, we're talking about a team that can be functional offensively.
40:57Okay. Mild more than what they're going to be this weekend.
41:01Again, if you're an Eagles fan sleep in on Sunday, JB producer here.
41:05He's an Eagles fan. JB sleep in on Sunday.
41:07You're on the West Coast. Anyways, pal. I don't know if you have to wake up to work, but I'm going to
41:14I'm giving you can tell your boss. I'm giving you permission.
41:17Sleep in Colin. I just gave him permission to sleep in.
41:20All right. Miss the morning stuff. Okay. Don't wake up early to see this because they're going to get smoked.
41:26But going forward, like when you get Devontae Smith back, I think actually that will be I think this will be fine.
41:33Okay. All right. I'll take you to my next question.
41:36Cool. Here it is. How will Declan Doyle fare with a backup quarterback and how will that impact Derek Henry and Zay Flowers?
41:43Again, this is like the injury portion of the program.
41:46But guess what? That is what fancy football does to us because at some point fancy football is all about handling injuries.
41:52So we've already seen other play callers handle backup quarterback so far this year.
41:57Ben Johnson with Case Keenum and Tyson Bajant and back-to-back weeks.
42:00David Blau, we saw with Marcus Mariota. Even Brian Flurry back in week two with Drew Locke.
42:05And now Declan Doyle gets Tyler Huntley. So Matt, the Ravens are actually two and a half point underdogs here to the roaring Atlanta Falcons at this moment.
42:13So what are your expectations here for Baltimore? Do you know the Falcons are third best in success rate on defense right now?
42:20There's four teams under 40%. It's the two teams you think about, Minnesota, Seattle, one and two.
42:25Then it's Atlanta. Then it's Los Angeles. How much of that is competition and everything?
42:30I mean, the last two offenses they played have their weaknesses in New Orleans and Green Bay.
42:35But I still think that they're not complete jokes offensively.
42:38It's not like they're playing against the Dolphins or whatever.
42:41So, I mean, ultimately, I do think this defense is tough to play against.
42:45They're just throwing a ton of heat up front.
42:48Once again, Jeff Ulbrich is pitching some good stuff on that side of the ball.
42:52I think it's going to be tough for Declan Doyle and company with a backup quarterback.
42:57But I would say, like, watching the Zay Flowers stuff right now, Josh, there's so many easy buttons right now.
43:03I'm not taking anything away from Flowers. I'm not taking anything away from Lamar when I say this.
43:08But they get him on so many linebackers just with all the movement stuff, action out of the backfield, slot work, more
43:15of the slot work than he's ever had in his entire career.
43:18So the bar for Tyler Huntley to just to Snoop Huntley to get the ball out to Flowers and just kind of
43:25try to keep the pass rush at bay with Derrick Henry.
43:28And by the way, they've thrown some screens to Derrick Henry this year, which I think has been inspired work.
43:34It's not going to be the most difficult offense to come in here and take the controls of if you're if you're Snoop Huntley, if that makes sense.
43:43It makes sense. Yeah. What I've loved about Declan Doyle so far is he understands that Zay Flowers is tiers above any other pass catcher that they have.
43:51And they're getting him the ball, like you said, in kind of layup ways like they'll go 13 personnel, which keeps base defense on the field.
43:59But then they'll kind of spread it out with that or motion to tight end as a decoy like Durham Smythe, who
44:05is now injured, but like all the way out to wide receiver.
44:09So everyone kicks out there and then that puts Zay Flowers, like you said, on a linebacker and he kind of just
44:15sits over the middle on a short crossing route and then runs after the catch with it.
44:21It sounds so easy when you're saying it, yet it's so difficult for a bunch of these other teams to manufacture these receptions to their wide receivers.
44:29And this was the theory of the play with me and you loving Zay Flowers this year is that Declan Doyle was
44:35going to be able to do it and literally taking concepts from Ben Johnson that he learned last year and implementing him, which is fantastic.
44:43My only point is like Snoop Huntley has never really been a 200 plus yard passer in the last few games that he started.
44:50And in fact, kind of the most game breaking ability that he has is with his legs with 53 and 60 rushing
44:56yards over the last two starts that he had last season.
45:00And I think that's vital here. You know, like you mentioned it with Jeff Ulbrich in this defense.
45:05They've lost our two best edge rushers, but somehow, some way he like lights a fire under them every single time.
45:11And they play relentless and they fly to the ball and the attitude that they play with like really stands out.
45:18And so this is, I think, a pretty tough test for Tyler Huntley to come in in week in week five compared
45:24to the Atlanta Falcons depth chart on paper. Right.
45:27And the Falcons do some disguise coverages. They just typically rotate down to a single high look, which would really benefit Zay
45:33Flowers and some of those shots down the field that they want to take with him.
45:38It's a great point about the tight ends clearing space.
45:41This is why sometimes like the sacrificial player does not always have to be the fastest guy on your roster.
45:47They're like sacrificing Mark Andrews sometimes. I mean, they're there, which is, you know, 31 year old Mark Andrews or whatever.
45:53I mean, but like there are times where he's the runoff guy in coverage and that opens things up for Flowers here.
46:00So in those single high looks, if you can get Mark Andrews to hold the safety and you can still get that
46:07explosive plate of Flowers, there's enough bust potential for this defense that I think Flowers can get at least a couple of explosive plays.
46:14So still starting Flowers, obviously still starting Derrick Henry.
46:16But yeah, the entire just I'm actually curious on the other side of the ball, Josh, that matchup, the Falcons offense against the Ravens defense.
46:24Do you have anything on that one? That's exactly where I was going to take this, because I actually think maybe the
46:30biggest benefit, if the Ravens offense is going to be successful, is if their defense plays the Falcons offense incredibly well.
46:37Obviously, first number one is somehow slowing down the run enough for you to have, you know, a lead on offense.
46:43And that's kind of how you take Bijan out of the game.
46:47But the other part is actually pressuring Michael Penix.
46:49And at times that's easier said than done, right?
46:52Because of the rushing attack and play action off of that, but also just how well this Falcons offensive line has been.
46:59I'm still monitoring like the Jake Matthews injury when he left on, you know, Monday Night Football or whatever it was, Sunday Night Football, whatever it was.
47:07And yeah, I mean, but Michael Penix is easily on an island in terms of the percent of his dropbacks that are
47:13clean, that have zero pressure attached to them. I'm still wondering how he's going to fare when he actually has one of
47:20these games where he is consistently pressured or pressured on, let's say, 40 percent of his dropbacks.
47:25And we just really haven't seen that yet. And he's coming off a significant injury and to me has never really been the most mobile player.
47:33So I understand that everyone is on the Falcons right now as being electric.
47:37And their last two games have been freaking fantastic.
47:39But the last two games have been against, you know, the Packers defense and the Saints defense.
47:45And at least to me, I think the Ravens defense is a tick above that.
47:49Yeah, totally, totally fair on that one. They're also the best defense in terms of yards per target allowed on play action by a decent bit.
47:573.9 yards per target when they face play action.
47:59The second best team is the Rams at 5.1.
48:02The Steelers 5.4. So that's kind of what the Falcons want to do, right?
48:06We've talked you and you, me and Hayden talked about this on stats versus film again.
48:11It's like they're really getting Michael Penix under center, you know, and they're taking those shots off play action, which has been nice to see.
48:19But that's kind of the strength of the Ravens game right now.
48:22So there's some spots. I think if they can get Drake London on outbreakers and sale concepts, there's probably enough weaknesses along the boundary there.
48:30But yeah, it'll be a really kind of strength on strength matchup from that perspective, that side of the ball.
48:36Not so much for the offense in your fourth question in terms of strength on strength with this defensive matchup.
48:42Where are we going here? Yeah, I think this deep into the season, it's all about, hey, this player drafted in the 20s-ish.
48:48Is he for real? Should we continue to start him no matter what the matchup is?
48:53And that brings me to Tyler Shuck, who is the quarterback five in points per game right now.
48:59And he faces Brian Flores and the Minnesota Vikings defense.
49:02So Matt, simple question, who wins that matchup? I mean, I think it's going to be Brian Flores and the Minnesota Vikings defense.
49:08How many ways do you see for the Saints to dig themselves out of that potential hole?
49:14I don't see very many. Their stats against the Blitz are actually some of the worst in the NFL this year are the New Orleans Saints.
49:21Obviously, Brian Flores had to be watching that game on Monday night just licking his chops, baby.
49:26Just excited to get after this offense. Not only that, I think this is tough if you're considering playing Alvin Kamara.
49:33I think C.J. Donaldson might play the most snaps among the running backs this week because he's probably their best protection.
49:39He's going to do his best. Chris Brooks. Yeah, he's their best protection back.
49:43So if you're trying to get on board with the Alvin Kamara scam from last week, that's going to be a little bit challenging here.
49:51So, yeah, just a lot of a lot of interesting wrinkles with this one, but a lot of ways where it's not
49:57great from the Saints offensive perspective against this defense.
50:00A hundred percent. This comes from Taj Seth. If you look at EPA per play on defense, the gap between the Vikings
50:06at number one and the Seahawks at number two is the same gap between the number two Seahawks and the Bengals at number 14.
50:14That just shows what the Vikings and in a tier of their own at the moment they are.
50:19And then it kind of plays perfectly into how bad the Saints have been early in everything.
50:24Like early in games, they're not putting up enough points, right?
50:27Early in series, they're getting to third and longs.
50:30It's never a great sign when you play your best football in third and 12, 13 and 14 situations.
50:36Now, that is very exciting and very cool when you have these shots that Tyler Shuck is, you know, getting blasted and
50:42it's a moon ball that falls into the lap of Chris Olave perfectly or Jawan Johnson perfectly.
50:47Like that's that's awesome television. That's not awesome when you're facing a Minnesota Vikings defense who I think is going to be
50:54very, very prepared for that because that's a that's a tightrope to walk.
50:58You know, I mean, Tyler Shuck, though, again, that maybe he gets home in this is that he's averaging a league high 49 dropbacks per game.
51:05Right. That's like 20 something more than Trevor Lawrence is doing on a weekly basis right now.
51:11They're basically playing different sports, but he is coming off a season high 53 percent pressure rate.
51:16And again, the Vikings defense leads the NFL in pressure rate at 46 percent.
51:20And when blitzed, like you said, the Shuck numbers and attempts are like 22nd and 26th across the league.
51:25So this might be an early submission for the horror movie month.
51:29That is October. The thing is, though, I don't I don't want to go too far on the panic stuff here for
51:36Shuck in the Saints offense, because you mentioned that they run so many plays.
51:40And even if the Vikings are able to gain an early lead, they'll run enough plays.
51:45There will be enough volume for Shuck, I think, to dig out a viable fantasy quarterback performance.
51:50And same for the pass catchers. I mean, I think this is a game where Devon Valey could catch like eight balls
51:56here because they're going to run so many plays.
51:59Do they want to? I mean, Chris Olabe's health status, we've got to monitor that.
52:03You know, it's like he's not missing for injury of practice yesterday, but he did take that hit late in the game.
52:10So keep an eye on that one, of course.
52:13But, you know, if he plays, he's going to you play Chris Olabe.
52:17But just again, the amount of times late in last week's game where the ball is coming out so fast to Valey on these quick slants.
52:24You can do that against this Vikings defense because they send so many extra bodies and they play.
52:30I would say some pretty loose zone coverage on the back end.
52:33So there will be opportunities for Shuck and these pass catchers to get home again because they run so many plays.
52:40We are we're definitely trending towards a fantasy scam with this offense.
52:43We might already have arrived there. You know, again, I made the comparison to Devon Valey, maybe not going to go full Michael Wilson.
52:50He would need a Chris Olabe injury to do that.
52:53And I don't want to have a Chris Olabe injury by any means.
52:57But he's leading the NFL in routes right now, and he's a pretty good player getting that volume.
53:03The Saints offense kind of reminds me of how we ended with the Arizona Cardinals last year with Jacoby Brissett, that their
53:09defense was so bad that in second halves, it was just a light show.
53:13I'm typically not someone that loves, you know, garbage time because garbage time means that you sucked for opening two quarters and then flip the switch.
53:21And oh, now we're good and now we can score points.
53:24But when you're also tied to a play caller who just runs plays at a speedy and relentless rate and then just abandons the run, it totally works.
53:33So to me, the horror film was how many shots and maybe unblocked pressures that Tyler Shuck is going to be hit.
53:39But I am still starting Tyler Shuck. I am still starting Chris Olabe.
53:43I am still starting Jawan Johnson and Devon Valle in a bunch of these matchups because, like you said, the volume should
53:50get them to be starting caliber for us in the end.
53:53Yeah, this year's Arizona Cardinals, I can certainly buy that for the New Orleans Saints.
53:58I mean, a lot of the same variables. They also cannot run the ball, just like those Cardinals could not run the
54:04ball last year, despite anybody's desire and intentions here.
54:07Okay, what is question number five for week five?
54:09Okay, this is a leading question. I'm going to lead the witness.
54:13All right. Who is the most underrated offense on week five and why is it or could it be the Washington Commanders?
54:20Okay, the Washington Commanders this week faced off against the New York Giants.
54:23Four point favorites, a team total of about 23 points.
54:26Matt, they get Jaden Daniels back. Doesn't sound like Terry McLaurin is going to play.
54:31But you and I have been thoroughly impressed in about, let's say, a game and a half of David Blau when he's
54:38had like enough healthy bodies around there. Like, I would say the first half of that Dallas Cowboys game and then the
54:44entire Seattle Seahawks, which is, again, the second most difficult opponent you can have in the league with Marcus Mariota quarterback.
54:50He showed some very, very cool things. And you compare that to who the Giants are defensively, where they rank last in
54:57the NFL and pressure rate at 22%. And then they are quite poor in terms of stuffing the run on early down.
55:04So while this commander's offense averages a league high 8.1 yards needed to gain on third downs, maybe they can remedy that
55:10against the weakness of the Giants and first and second down.
55:13And David Blau can kind of find this sweet spot, this flow state in terms of opening his playbook finally with his healthy quarterback.
55:21And this Giants secondary fourth in fourth most man coverage.
55:24And they really leaned into that last week against the Cardinals.
55:27They're like, we are just going to man up on these receivers to some pretty decent success.
55:32This is a little bit more of a different offense where they get these guys flowing a little bit more horizontal.
55:38And I think they're going to cause some chaos and confusion.
55:41If there's no Terry McLaurin, I think we could see some Antonio Williams moments here.
55:46He's their leader in terms of yards per out run against man coverage.
55:50They've weaponized him really well. I think on tape, the yards per out run is matched up with the success rate and
55:56him actually getting open and creating a ton of separation against man coverage.
56:00He can be a real weapon for them in this matchup.
56:04So, yeah, I just don't really buy the Giants on either side of the ball right now.
56:09Really skeptical. Don't love, by the way, Malik. And, you know, this is how it goes.
56:13Last week, he's like, oh, Malik Nabors is back, baby.
56:16Then this week, he's like, well, I'm a little sore at practice.
56:20It's a different soreness than before. I mean, I kind of think we're going to go back and forth, snip, snap, snip, snap with Nabors constantly.
56:28So I just don't really buy anything on either side of the ball for the Giants.
56:32So I like your theory of the case here that the commanders could indeed be that sleeper offense this week.
56:38I appreciate Malik Nabors optimism, not optimism, his honesty.
56:41But he is probably the most pessimistic player when it comes to his own injuries, like the most doom and gloom of
56:48like, actually, I feel terrible right now. Compared to all these other injured guys that you hear, it's like, it's just a flesh wound.
56:55And then I'm just going to keep playing through it.
56:58Nabors is the exact opposite. I love the Antonio Williams shout.
57:01I was going to make the exact same one.
57:04Now, none of these wide receivers, unless something shockingly changes, is going to play 85 to 90% of snaps.
57:10Because you know this, Matt, we have to pay the tax of De'Ami Brown out there for 60% of snaps.
57:15Traylon Burks out there for 60% of snaps. Somebody's got to get sacrificed.
57:19Correct. But I will absolutely take the over on this Antonio Williams, two receptions, 23 yards.
57:24That is the projection here for week five. He is someone that looks way faster to me than he was coming out of Clemson.
57:31Like, I thought he was more of a slot Tyler Boyd-ish player.
57:35But no, he's lining up on the outside. He's, I think, winning in the intermediate portion and creating actual separation as an outside wide receiver.
57:42I love to see it so far. I want him to, I want people to pick him up.
57:48Because I think as we go along, if we can consolidate this down to three wide receiver names, Antonio Williams could have real fantasy value.
57:55He seems, and you know, third round pick. Like, it doesn't always happen for these guys.
58:00But theoretically, it seems like a great post-by rookie bump type of candidate.
58:04Their bye week is indeed in week seven. They come back and play the Eagles and the Rams.
58:09So, you know, some tougher defenses. We'll see where the Eagles are at that point.
58:14Maybe they've traded everybody. I don't know. Doubt it.
58:16But nevertheless, I really like Antonio Williams. Yeah, I'll take the over on two for 23.
58:21I mean, he should have had that massive touchdown last week for the people who slept in for that Europe game.
58:27He had a long touchdown that was called back due to penalty.
58:31So, yeah, I mean, he's a good player. I think they really like him.
58:35I agree with your notes. I mean, I kind of compared it to more of like a Sterling Shepard type is what
58:42I hoped he would become in the league. It's your favorite player ever.
58:46My favorite player ever who was actually a much more impactful, faster downfield player before he had literally every injury in the book.
58:53But, you know, I was thinking more gritty, reliable slot player for Antonio Williams.
58:57Yeah, he definitely looks more explosive than I thought.
58:59I agree with that. By the way, update on another rookie for the commanders.
59:04Katron Allen was a cut while we were doing this podcast.
59:07So, whoa. Yeah, one of those guys. Unless I'm tripping here.
59:10I mean, I guess they're like, you know what?
59:13Austin Eckler. We're going to ride with Matt Harmon's former co-host for the rest of the way.
59:18Yeah. The commanders waved six-round pick running back Katron Allen, according to Adam Schefter.
59:22That is the thing that happened. Poor went out for Hayden.
59:25This was one of Hayden's favorite prospects in the draft.
59:28This actually kind of brings me to my next point.
59:31Hayden, I know, a weird favorite to have. But Hayden loves his.
59:35If you weigh over 210 pounds and run the football and gain 3.6 yards, Hayden loves you.
59:40I'm sure they're trying to get him back on the practice squad, by the way.
59:45I'm sure. But, yeah. I mean, what a shot.
59:47What a shot on Hayden. I love when Josh comes on this show and just talks about Hayden behind his back.
59:53I want to know what you guys are saying.
59:56Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Okay.
59:59He never talks bad about you during the recaps.
60:02Well, those are only 25 minutes. If those went 28 minutes long, he might get to it.
60:07I got to know what you guys are saying about me after I leave stats versus film.
60:12But we'll talk about that off air. No. I mean, Hayden is the fifth best ranker in the world.
60:17Like, what? Someone has to put him, you know, bring him down to earth a little bit here.
60:23Fair enough. You know? The commanders have been horrible running the football.
60:26Now, it makes sense when you lose your left tackle.
60:29You have to reshuffle your offensive line a little bit.
60:32And, you know, Bill's a second year seventh round pick and all that type of stuff.
60:37But again, the Giants are allowing five yards per carry, 30th with a run of 10 more yards, 30th rate.
60:4312.3% of the time. They're 29th in yards before contact per attempt.
60:47So, this might be a case where a negative versus a negative leans in favor of the offense.
60:52And if that's the case, again, you can be on time, on schedule, open up even more of the playbook on second and third downs.
60:59Because, again, you're ahead of the sticks. I wonder if this team at this point just is going to abandon the run game in a way.
61:07Interesting. They're releasing Catron Allen. You know, Rashad White is back at practice.
61:11He's like a pass-down guy. Eckler is a pass-down guy.
61:14They're keeping him around. And it's just like, yeah, they'll do some performative rush stuff with Ja'Kory Kroski Merritt.
61:20But they're another team that's not really getting under center.
61:23They're in the gun. They do some decent spread stuff.
61:26So, I do wonder if they just might be one of those teams.
61:30They cycle in. I remember Jory in our preseason show with her saying that the commanders viewed their receiver room as the deepest on the team.
61:37And I was like, really? They really do? But to their credit, they've played all these guys.
61:42And, you know, again, it's sacrificial roles for guys like Deami Brown.
61:46Every now and again, Traylon Burks makes a play.
61:49But, you know, Williams, McLaurin, when he's been healthy.
61:51And, oh, my God, why are we showing this ancient video of me?
61:55Bro, Matt! Whoa! Who greenlit this? I mean, what are we doing here?
61:59JB, did you so dirty? Really? After I gave him permission to sleep in on Sunday, JB shows this.
62:05I mean, what was I thinking with that beard?
62:08Josh, what was I thinking with the beard? If you're listening to the audio version of this, we are showing a video.
62:14The first episode of the second season of Eckler's Edge at the Chargers facility.
62:18By the way, Justin Herbert was on that episode.
62:21And he said, you know, outside of football, I live a pretty boring life.
62:25I wonder what Justin Herbert thinks about his outside of football life now.
62:29I don't know. Oh, this is incredible. Oh, gosh.
62:32I'm sure they're cackling in the back. Oh, yeah.
62:34Great. That was fantastic. Don't pull up my stuff.
62:37What year was that? That was 2022? 2020? Maybe 2022.
62:40Oh, gosh. A long time ago. Yeah. All right.
62:43You know what? I don't know what I was thinking with that beard.
62:47I'm glad I trimmed that off. Okay. Let's go to that.
62:50You look fantastic. Then or now? Oh, now. Now.
62:53Okay. Now. Yeah. Not that. Appreciate that. Great. Great.
62:55Now that we're talking about everybody's weaknesses here. Hayden's love of plotter running backs and, you know, my facial hair blindness.
63:02All right. Where everybody's weaknesses have been covered here.
63:04Let's get to the sixth. I didn't say anything about your haircut.
63:08Let's get to the sixth and final question of the week.
63:11Sean Payton will reportedly be more involved in the play calling, Matt.
63:15What will change, if anything, about the Denver Broncos?
63:17I mean, I don't know if you want me to read these, you know, monologues that we have from Ian Rappaport and
63:24Adam Schefter on just the words or lack thereof that they use.
63:28Okay. I want you to read them. From Ian Rappaport.
63:31Broncos coach Sean Payton will be more heavily involved in the offensive play calling this week.
63:35The process will remain collaborative with OC Davis Webb continuing to be a major voice on game day and during the week.
63:42But Payton will have a say. Read between the lines.
63:45Translate that to me. Who do you think is the one who's actually going to be on the headset to Bo Nix
63:51relaying what the play call is and choosing what that play is?
63:55Does it matter? Like, truly, does it matter? Sean Payton to reporters today said, we'll make a change offensively.
64:01I'll call the place. So I guess it's going to be Sean Payton.
64:05Okay. He said that to Adam Schefter. As we are taping the show, he says that.
64:09It doesn't matter, Josh, because is Sean Payton going to call the Bo Nix throw the dig route plays?
64:15Because those plays are on. But Davis Webb has been calling them.
64:19They just have the quarterbacks not throwing. I saved this stat just for you, Josh, because you will appreciate it in one part of the ways.
64:26Okay. Bo Nix is guys who have started four games so far.
64:30He has the fourth highest check down rate, according to fantasy points data, 13.3 percent fourth highest.
64:35He is also second in the NFL in throwaways.
64:38So that is just some disgusting football. Number one in throwaways, by the way, by a lot, is your boy, Bryce Young, 21 throwaways.
64:45But here's the thing. If you're going to throw that ball away, you're going to.
64:49Well, number one, you're pressured. Bo Nix, not as much.
64:52If you're going to throw that ball away, you better come back on the next play and launch that thing.
64:58And Bryce Young is launching that thing. 4.9 percent check down rate for Bryce Young.
65:03I don't love the whole this ethical Hooper. I don't love attaching ethics to the way people play football.
65:09I think it's a little bit. I think it's a little bit weird.
65:12But but what Bo Nix is doing is definitely dishonorable.
65:15Okay. So I don't really know if it makes a difference.
65:19Like, again, Bo Nix was asked about this and he basically said, yeah, I'd rather just dump it off and let RJ
65:25run with it than me run with it. You know, and that's a big part of it that we haven't talked about
65:32enough is that he's also not scrambling either. Uh, Jack Strand has more scramble yards this year.
65:37I think I've said that like three times this week.
65:40So I don't really know what to do. And I don't know if the play caller truly matters.
65:45A lot to hit on there. I love that point that you made because we had a conversation stats versus film about
65:52it of if Bo Nix, uh, in his brain, in his heart, just in his feelings about not wanting to run as much or use his mobility.
66:00This is on the heels of off season surgery, right?
66:03And Bo Nix is calling card so far this season or his career has been avoiding sacks, you know, a low pressure to sack rate.
66:10Typically that has been hoping to find this Goldilocks zone of moving enough or sometimes moving too much in order to avoid that pressure.
66:18If he feels physically that he can't avoid sacks in the same way anymore.
66:22I think that's, what's leading to these quick dump balls.
66:25That's what's leading to these check downs, you know, because Matt, to the first point that you made, what is Sean Payton
66:31going to go out there and call four more dagger concepts that are wide open in the middle of the field and
66:38Bo Nix isn't going to throw them again. Like Davis Webb, there were two on the first drive, Evan Ingram on a
66:44corner route to the outside with 12 yards of separation, an entire sideline, didn't throw it.
66:49And then that dagger concept to Pat Bryant over the middle of the field that Marvin Mim or someone was clearing out
66:56for, and he didn't throw that either. Um, so yeah, it's maybe Sean being in his ear might change this, but something
67:02has to change, uh, in order for this Broncos offense to, to feel fixed again.
67:07And, uh, the charters defense, I think is actually played a little bit better than maybe certainly the way it started this season.
67:14You know, Jacoby verset and the boys tearing them up in week one.
67:18I think it's gotten better and better every single week.
67:21They gave Sam Donald some trouble last week. So it's not exactly just a clean, easy cupcake matchup here for this Broncos
67:27team, especially because they, now the charters will run those two high looks and the middle of the field will be open.
67:34It's just up to the quarterback to take it.
67:36But my kind of theory about football players and really kind of people is that everybody kind of is generally the same throughout the course of their life.
67:45You just get a little more exaggerated one way or the other.
67:48And usually for football players, once you start to experience injuries, you kind of become this fun house mirrors, maybe exaggerated version of yourself.
67:55Bo Nix has always been this way. Bo Nix has always been a turn down, check it down player.
68:01Now it's just worse than ever. And I think because Broncos fans are mad there and because of this play calling thing, there's just more attention on it.
68:10So I'm actually not sure this is going to get better just by putting the play calling duty back with Sean Payton,
68:16but I'm very much open to being wrong in that because I respect Sean as a play caller so much.
68:22Yeah. The only thing I'll say is, you know, Sean during his Bo's rookie season, it would kind of just be some
68:29type of manufactured screen or touch to a wide receiver coming out of the backfield or something at the line of scrimmage.
68:35And then off of that, after they suck everything in, it was shot plays down the field.
68:40I wonder if they're going to kind of get back to that where he really doesn't have the ability to read anything.
68:47It's, Hey, we're going to do a whole bunch of screens to hopefully waddle Marvin Mims, RG Harvey, that type of stuff.
68:53And then we're going to try to hit you over the top and just really get it very basic to what it
69:00was versus, you know, him waxing poetic about Bo Nix prior to last season and basically saying this is the second best
69:07quarterback I've ever coached other than, uh, other than Drew Brees.
69:10Okay. Two last, two last things on this and then we'll go to break.
69:14We'll move on. Okay. One, I think that's a good point that the best thing to do might be, you know, like
69:21kind of strip it down to the studs a little bit here, uh, in terms of the offense, get back to basics.
69:27And then the conversation becomes more of, okay, can you keep doing this with this guy?
69:32Is this your long-term quarterback and all of that?
69:35Um, for our purposes, from a fantasy standpoint, don't really care.
69:38Like, let's just get through this season and get these guys, the football and activate the offense.
69:43I think that might be the way to do it.
69:46The other thing is sometimes when you do the whole, let's promote the, uh, quarterback's buddy, it can work really well.
69:52I think we've talked about the relationship between Brad Edzik and Bryce Young.
69:56That's worked really well. Um, Joe Brady and Josh Allen.
69:59We'll see how it goes over the course of the season, but kind of the same dynamic there.
70:04That's definitely this one. Uh, I think even if Sean Payton says all these nice things about bonus, they've clearly always had a pretty combative relationship.
70:12Your, your boomer boss versus your, you know, Gen Z employee and all that, where maybe Davis Webb just related to Bo Nix better.
70:19We'll see, maybe there's going to be a proof of concept that the combative relationship is actually better than the buddy buddy relationship.
70:26And maybe there's something to that. Like under, under all this dagger and scheme talk, maybe that's as simple as what this comes back to.
70:34So you're saying sometimes people do their best work when they're fearful, they're scared of their superiors and their bosses and all that type of stuff.
70:42Interesting. I like it. You're, you're not wrong. I mean, listen, I'm now very afraid of what the producers are going to
70:48show after that Eckler Eckler's edge video. So I'm going to try to do my best work on this show so that
70:55that no one Googled Josh Norris Elon, or else you'll see some terrifying photographs from, uh, from what I looked like in college.
71:02Let's put it that way. We, we are actually going to do that, but before we get those photos, we are going to take a quick break.
71:10We come back on the other side. We're talking no one's games of the week.
71:14My God, let's hope there's not a fantasy hipsters segment up on the, uh, up on the show.
71:19After that comes up, that's a shout out for the real ones on that note.
71:24Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll, we'll actually get back to some football talk here.
71:30All right, we're back and welcome to no one's games of the week.
71:33The, the lullaby gets me every time and it always leads into a perfect Tennessee Titans game.
71:39All right. And here we are once again, Texans at Titans here in week five, the Texans are seven and a half point favorites.
71:46Both of them are Oh, and four coming into this one.
71:49Uh, Josh, if the thing is, there's actually some fantasy players we care about here, mostly the Texans side of things.
71:55So I present you this game. D'Amico Ryan's taking back play defensive play calling duties.
72:00That'll fix it. Uh, all right. What do we got?
72:03I mean, we've talked now about two head coaches taking over play calling duties for teams that are struggling.
72:08I think we're sensing a theme here. Uh, yeah.
72:11I mean with, with the Texans, I'm actually starting CJ start for the second straight week.
72:16Um, I mean with Nico Collins stride has been the quarterback 16 and he was the quarterback three last week.
72:22Uh, Titans have allowed a 73 completion rate 31st in the league, 23rd in yards per attempt.
72:27Um, they do face the lowest pass rate in the league just because, you know, they're losing and teams just run on
72:34them over and over and over again. But Matt, did the Texans want to run the ball over and over and over again on anyone?
72:41So I just love how they're airing it out with CJ Stroud, uh, for better or for worse, uh, in terms of
72:48their defense, maybe not shutting down the opponent's offense.
72:50But I think the Texans defense will shockingly be great because they're not facing Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and Dak Prescott here.
72:57Yeah. Texans are actually fourth, uh, in my pace score.
73:00Uh, they're 10th and no huddle 11th and pastor to rexpected eight and plays per game seven and seconds per play.
73:06I mean, they, they're at least pushing that pace, uh, which is kind of what they have to be at this point.
73:13Also, they've just completely abandoned like any heavy personnel usage.
73:16Maybe some of that is game script related, but I mean, this was a big talking point for them in the off
73:22season that, Oh yeah, we're going to, we draft Marlon Klein.
73:25We signed Foster Moreau. We don't have to do the jumbo stuff that we did last year.
73:31They're, they're pretty much three receivers on the field, which, you know, I'm glad they finally got Jalen Knoll on the field for 70% of the routes.
73:39I think he's going to, he can help the offense, but my God, man, I'm just, it is, it's, it's the CJ Stroud, Nico Collins show.
73:46And I really don't see a lot of other viable alternatives for this team, but that is probably more than enough to
73:53beat this version of the Tennessee Titans. And on their side of it, do you buy Carnell Tate and the production that
74:00he's been able to put up a specific solid game in week three?
74:03I think I got your answer based on the facial expression.
74:07Uh, and then in week four, he actually had what would probably be considered his breakout performance.
74:12Not this week. Again, I understand that there's this belief and sure it's somewhat been proven true because the quarterbacks that they
74:18faced, but, uh, I mean, I still think that this Texans defense has enough studs to make bad offenses, which the Brian
74:25Dayball led Tennessee Titans is a bad offense. Uh, look horrible.
74:28Um, I will say Kamari Lassiter, I think is first in the NFL in terms of penalty yardage allowed at 60.
74:34So if that's like the matchup, maybe that Carnell take can, can win or take advantage of this week.
74:40But again, like you have Will Anderson, you have every other defensive lineman and pass rusher on top of it.
74:46And along with the corners, like, I just think that this is honestly the perfect time for Jamika Ryan to say, Oh
74:53yeah, uh, we got better on defense because now I'm calling place.
74:56Yeah. I think that's very fair. They also don't really have the type of, I mean, they've moved Carnell Tate around a
75:03little bit, but they don't really have that type of movable chess piece, uh, to attack the linebackers attack the safeties.
75:09Is this going to be a big Wanda Robinson game?
75:12Uh, I'm skeptical of that. Okay. Let's get to the next contest here.
75:16We've got Colts at Steelers. I'll start with the Steelers here, Josh, probably the best thing that was happening with Pittsburgh, at
75:23least from a fantasy standpoint, was that Jalen Warren was over 90% of the running back touches in each of the last two weeks.
75:30He's been just the workhorse, but now it sounds like Rico Dowdle might be back.
75:34He's got a chance to return for this game against the Colts.
75:38Do you think Pittsburgh goes back to a straight split here or is the Jalen Warren stuff too good for them to completely turn away from it?
75:46Yeah. I think you could make the argument that Jalen Warren has been their best offensive player this year.
75:51I understand what he hasn't scored a touchdown yet.
75:54Is that, is that still true? Um, but I mean what he's competing with DK Metcalf and that's about it.
76:00Like Jalen Warren has been outstanding so far and the changes along the offensive line here for the Steelers have been great.
76:07Like Maxie Honacher at right tackle, uh, you know, their left side is very good too.
76:12So that's their strength. Um, and it can kind of come down to, okay, is Aaron Rodgers going to hit the two
76:18or three flick of the wrist, big plays that he does on a weekly basis and lets it fly and lets it
76:25rip and dials it back 10 years. Uh, if those hit, then they win those games.
76:29Right. So the Steelers are a tough one. Like I, I have been starting DK Metcalf in leagues and obviously Jalen Warren
76:36is an excellent play, but without Michael Pittman and miss missing for multiple weeks, Matt, I kind of wonder if there's a secondary pass catcher here.
76:44And would that be like Roman Wilson that people could be looking into?
76:48I think Roman Wilson is in line for a pretty good game here.
76:52Um, we do our, we do our bold predictions column.
76:55Uh, he's going to be my bold prediction this week.
76:57Uh, so the thing with Roman Wilson, still not a perfect player for sure.
77:02Aaron Rodgers still gets mad at him every few snaps.
77:05I actually don't know that his snap rate is going to go up in this game, Josh, because last time Michael Pittman
77:11was out, they just like Jeremy Bernard got that role.
77:14He's essentially, I think just going to kind of eventually replace like he'll replace Michael Pittman as long as he's gone or,
77:21and then probably my player from the rest of the way, like Pittman's just not been able to sustain a lot of momentum with this team.
77:29They're pretty samey in terms of archetype. So I think we'll see Jeremy Bernard play more, but Wilson has kind of been
77:35their designated shot player against man coverage. He averages 2.53 yards per route against man coverage, 10.9% first downs per route.
77:41Nobody else is even close to that. And, uh, you think about this Colts defense, they kind of gotten away from it,
77:48but at the same time, they are still seventh in man coverage rate.
77:52So if you picked up Roman Wilson off the waiver wire and you need a wide receiver three, you need a wide receiver kind of flex option.
78:00I think he's got a ceiling to chase here this week.
78:03Roman Wilson or Mike Kosicki? Who would you like to start more this week?
78:07Like to start is a interesting way of phrasing the question.
78:11Um, I think I would like to start Roman Wilson more.
78:14I think Roman Wilson comes through here. Okay. Right.
78:17Wow. I mean, neither of us are really Roman Wilson people.
78:20I remember coming out of Michigan. He was all, yeah, yeah, yeah.
78:24He was all, I'm going to line up on this side and then run this side of the field.
78:29And I'm going to line up from this side and run this side of the field.
78:34That's all I did with these crossing routes over and over and over again.
78:38I mean, that's kind of what he's doing here.
78:41What he's doing. He's running like a great, he's running out route, out routes and dig routes.
78:46He's running away from man coverage. And when, when Rogers likes the matchup pre snap, and he's going to like some of
78:52these matchups against this Colts team, he'll fling him the football.
78:56So yeah, by no means is he a perfect player.
78:59Um, but still he is beating man coverage on tape.
79:02Like his success rate versus man coverage in the games I've charted has been pretty good.
79:07Uh, but still he's one of these guys that gets hung up in zones lost and, and just not always in the
79:13right place at the right time, which is why he's always going to have a bit of a frosty relationship with Rogers.
79:20Uh, but still, so this could go wrong if he makes one fourth quarter mistake and or first quarter mistake and Rogers
79:26gets him out of there after four plays. But still, nevertheless, I do think Wilson is a viable play.
79:32Well, Gusecki is probably a little safer the more that I talk this out, but, um, let's go to the other side
79:38of the ball here with the Colts. What a discouraging offensive performance, uh, against the commanders.
79:43Uh, we talked about it where yes, they won that game and I still somehow came out of that game feeling worse about the Colts.
79:51They will likely get Tanner born a leanie back in this game, which is good.
79:55Cause, uh, they looked like a mess against the blitz in week four really disorganized up front.
80:00Just absolutely going back and reviewing the tape of that one.
80:04There were definitely some designed intermediate, which is about all the Colts can do at this point.
80:09Intermediate shot plays for this team that were just completely destroyed and taken off the field here.
80:14So how are you feeling about this Colts team, their offense at this point?
80:18Well, you can't feel any better than bad, you know, like the Colts are such a departure from where they were at the start of last season.
80:26In fact, Matt, this feels closer to the Phillip rivers led Colts.
80:30And it did the early season. Daniel Jones led Colts last year, you know, everything is just so close to the line of scrimmage.
80:37And it's for a lot of reasons. One, Daniel Jones does not look like the same form that he was.
80:43And that makes total sense coming off this Achilles.
80:45And then number two, you have no like legit field stretchers.
80:49I understand that Laquan Treadwell can sprint and so can Alec Pierce, but in terms of actually being, you know, a real
80:55targets and playing the position differently, like the level of threat is, is quite different between the two.
81:01And especially with Alec Pierce, like as the season went along, he was running more and more of those in breakers and
81:07they were hitting those shots and they just have nothing beyond that.
81:11So like Tyler Warren and his ADOT and where he's being targeted is so, you know, much closer to the line of scrimmage and Josh Downs.
81:19Yeah. And while Josh Downs is lining up more in two wide receiver sets and everyone got that right this summer, it's
81:25not like that's really equaling like needle moving fantasy output games either.
81:29So the Colts are just who they are. And if it's a Jonathan Taylor, you know, being a top two, three score
81:35every single week, then they have a chance. And if not, and this one might not, this might be an, if not
81:42game, then they're going to really struggle and look horrible.
81:45Yeah. We talked about Josh Downs last week. We're getting excited about like, oh man, he got to 70 yards and like,
81:51that's where, that's where it is in this offensive environment.
81:54Like this, if this is theoretically last year's Colts and you've got a 90% snap route player and Josh Downs playing in that, like that's a different version.
82:03But in this version that you can't really get too excited about that.
82:07So, I mean, yeah, I'll feel great if Josh Downs can get to 80 receiving yards in that will feel like a huge win.
82:14Cause I mean, even watching the tape back of the chiefs game, that like, that was a great game, a great offensive
82:20game plan where they get him against man coverage on these breaking routes.
82:24But that's it. Like 15 yards, max 15 yards, max.
82:27So you need to not have the offensive line blow plays up in Daniel Jones, dirt things back and forth.
82:33So it's just, just tough sledding for this team outside of when they can get under center and run with Jonathan Taylor,
82:40but their under center pass game is not great.
82:42Cause Daniel Jones can't move off of torn Achilles.
82:45Who could have seen that coming? Yeah. And what we saw with Daniel Jones last week and what we've seen lately is that he has a fumbling problem.
82:53And then you have TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith and like all these people playing off the edge and running off the edge and going for the football.
83:02Right. So like Daniel Jones has a ball security problem when he faces pressure, when he gets sacked.
83:07And I think that would get exploited here this week.
83:10Yeah. Not feeling great about where the Colts are at this point.
83:14Okay. Final game here. Browns at jets. I feel like Browns and jets usually would be just an easy, no one's games
83:20of the week, but these two teams have been better than we probably expect.
83:25Yeah. The record on the jets one and three Browns three and one, but there's a lot of young exciting players here
83:31on both sides of the ball from a jets perspective.
83:34Josh, I'm, I know we'll talk about Braylon Allen in the next segment, so we don't have to go too deep on
83:41him there, but I'm just kind of willing to throw out what we saw last week.
83:45Cause they ran 32 plays and they will not run 32 plays again this week.
83:50Totally agree with you. I will say the total for this game is at 39 and a half points.
83:56So it's not like the markets believe a lot of points will be scored and we might see longer drives here, but
84:02yeah, I mean, it's stunk when we saw Kenan city go off against the Detroit lions.
84:07Uh, and then he goes out and lays a goose egg and it kind of makes sense when again, they only run
84:1432 plays and then the screen that gets designed for him.
84:17And then the targets that go in his direction are tipped or incomplete and all that type of stuff.
84:22So I believe Adai Mitchell will still be ruled out for this game.
84:26So it's, it's, it's still a very condensed group of fantasy relevant players for us from Garrett Wilson to Braylon Allen to Kenan Sadiq on top of it.
84:35Matt, I feel like there's a lot to talk about here with the Browns.
84:39Unless you have anything left to say about the jets.
84:42I don't. So go ahead. Todd Monk is an awesome fricking coach.
84:45I mean, yeah. How he is already able to win games and went in the margins in these one score contests and
84:52in the fourth quarter to shows you how good Todd Monk is at his job in comparison to all these other teams
84:59that also go through changes along their roster, but maybe it's only one offensive lineman versus all five or one new wide
85:05receiver versus a whole new wide receiver room or, you know, a quarterback that has been the worst quarterback in the league over the last few years.
85:13And maybe you can get them to like the 23rd best quarterback this season.
85:17This is all coaching to me. And it's just Todd Monk and, you know, having this environment that breeds competitiveness and trust
85:24and just the willingness and understanding that, Hey, in these one score contests, I'm going to make the right decisions.
85:30And if you do one thing good, like break contain for Deshaun Watson, rushing for fourth downs or, you know, Denzel Boston,
85:37breaking one tackle and taking it to the house or the defense, you know, making one play on that side of the
85:43ball and shutting down a third or a fourth down conversion, then we're going to have a legit chance in the end.
85:50The Browns should not be as good as they are.
85:53And to me, it's all about the head coach that they picked.
85:56Totally agree. Really like what Todd Monk is doing.
85:59And the fact that, I mean, look at these four.
86:02I mean, we want to throw the two offensive linemen, the rookies that are starting this year, Barber and Fano, left tackle and right guard there.
86:10But look, look at the young players they have.
86:12Harold Fannin, Quinshon Judkins, Casey Concepcion, Denzel Boston. These guys are all hits to varying degrees here.
86:17The two receivers this year. I mean, they're just those are going to be their two guys for the long run.
86:24And they're both awesome. They've both been fantastic. Boston at this point.
86:27Is he just an every week fantasy wide receiver three?
86:30I would posit that he is. Yeah. I mean, I was going to ask you this because, you know, in the opening
86:37two weeks of the season when he was legit going off, he was probably in no one's lineups when he scored 13 and 18 fantasy points.
86:45Now, these last two weeks have not been as good as seven and 11.
86:49So people are kind of chasing those weeks one and two.
86:52But Matt, I know I'm starting him in leagues where, you know, I have Jalen Coker or T-Mac or whoever else in flex spots.
86:59And I feel pretty good about it. Like, this is one of the situations where I think you should feel pretty good
87:06about where the Browns are, even if they're only projected for 19 points.
87:10Uh, and I would say like the Deshaun Watson eye test has been worse than the box score, but sure.
87:16You know, it is what it is. Like Munkin is so good at designing shot plays to Denzel Boston or the layup
87:22stuff to Casey Concepcion that even the shot plays to Concepcion that haven't been there, I think will hit at some point this season too.
87:30Agree. Yeah. There's going to be meat left on the bone with where Watson is at this point, but it's functional.
87:36I think we can let it be that it's functional and that is a huge win for these pass catchers that they are getting functional quarterback play.
87:44Okay. We're going to take our final break of the show.
87:47We come back. We're taking your questions in the Toyota fantasy hotline.
87:51We'll get into that right after this. All right, we're back.
87:54Welcome to fantasy hotline presented by Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
87:58Every week, we reach out to you guys, ask you one pivotal question heading into the slate of games.
88:04This week, we asked who you needed to step up in your running back to spot because Josh and I talked about this earlier.
88:11Like where does Will Shipley slot? It's between these guys that people actually drafted to be their running back twos.
88:17And there's a lot of running back twos that are not really working out right now.
88:22So with that, let's get let's let's slog through some of these names here.
88:26Josh, first one comes in from JSW Emmanuel Wilson.
88:29But I will pivot to Travian Henderson. If Ramondre Stevenson doesn't play, let's talk about both of these guys here.
88:35First of all, with Travian Henderson, interesting note about the Raiders.
88:38They have struggled a little bit when teams get into gap runs because they play all they play basically nickel to everything there.
88:45I think one or two in terms of nickel percentage on defense.
88:49So they can give up these gap scheme runs now the and it's less of like the explosive runs.
88:54It's actually they're a high success rate team, but they don't give up a lot of explosives.
88:59When you look at Travian Henderson, all he does is explosives, not success rate.
89:03So the Patriots run a lot of gap scheme stuff as well.
89:07So if there's no Ramondre Stevenson, can you trust Travian Henderson as a fantasy back?
89:12Yeah, you have to. I mean, I think Travian Henderson would rank as a top 12 running back if Ramondre Stevenson is out now.
89:19Oh, wow. Is that practice? And well, just from the fact of this is a unified backfield, if it's one person like
89:25and we saw Travian Henderson have the same issues last year, Matt.
89:29And when it was a unified backfield, he still there's enough juice in the tank for him to still be relevant and
89:35as a pass catcher on top of it. So I think that's your answer.
89:40But if the backfield is split, like if Ramondre does play, I am easy playing Emmanuel Wilson over this.
89:45Like I understand it's the 49ers on paper, but their defensive line has gotten beaten up here and there.
89:51The Seahawks are three point favorites here. Emmanuel Wilson shockingly got four targets last week and then two of them was were design screens.
89:58And then one was an escort screen on top of it.
90:01So like if George Holani is getting a little bit more phased out here and Emmanuel Wilson is getting up to like
90:0870% of snaps because Holani had some issues in pass protection last week.
90:12I'm not saying again, the juice is equal to what Travian Henderson brings the table, but Emmanuel Wilson is doing quite a
90:18good job of being a waiver wire fill in and owning a lot of the workload.
90:23Absolutely. And when I watched the Seahawks run game, I think it looks really sound and well designed and it's just they
90:30need a back to execute and that's about what you can expect from Emmanuel Wilson is just execute the assignment.
90:36So yeah, I'll probably rank him as a top 20 option this week.
90:40I also kind of like them mixing Rashid Shaheed in a little bit as a runner.
90:44They ran that toss to him for the 20 yard touchdown against the Chargers.
90:49That was cool to see, but obviously that that slices a little bit away from Emmanuel Wilson, but still they need enough
90:55of a true traditional run game to continue to give him a lot of work.
91:00I would probably take the over on 18 touches here for that we're showing on the screen and the projections, which if
91:06you're getting over 18 touches in an offense, that's good.
91:09That's the guy you're starting in fantasy. Okay. Next one comes in from Kellogg Braylon Allen tease this earlier.
91:15I love just the simple name. No explanation. Just just simple name Braylon Allen.
91:19Yeah, I think it's a great call. He got every single running back touch last week, Josh.
91:24They just were barely on the football field. It's that simple.
91:27I'm sure Isaiah Davis would have gotten more if they ran, you know, 45 plays instead of 32 plays, but you know,
91:34Braylon Allen 100% of the back throw touches. And as Michael F.
91:38Florio points out 94% of snaps. Yeah. I mean, Braylon Allen's a top 16 back this week.
91:43The Cleveland Browns defense is awesome. I believe it's Rutenberg is our defensive coordinator.
91:47He comes from working with Jeff Ulbrich last year.
91:50When you watch these defenses, they play in a very similar style in terms of flying along the field and hitting hard and all that type of stuff.
91:58But yes, Braylon Allen is another one of these where, hey, any back that gets 80 to 85% of the work always
92:04has a chance of falling into the end zone.
92:07And Braylon Allen is up there. That's for sure.
92:10Where is he on the falling into the end zone between farting into the end zone?
92:15David Montgomery scale there for you, Josh. It kind of depends on if I like the player or not, if it's falling or farting.
92:22That's the difference between those two words. Cool. We'll keep a tab on that throughout the course of the season.
92:28But yeah, no, I agree with you on Braylon Allen.
92:31I have him on teams. I'm going to be starting him once again this week and feeling pretty good about it.
92:37Yeah. No Mason Graham potentially in this game too, most likely.
92:40So that's another one here. Okay. Next one comes in from DC tour sauce.
92:44Chuba Hubbard is on pie. Travis HN is on IR.
92:47Jalen Wright, you are my only hope. Oh boy.
92:50What do we think about the Dolphins running back split?
92:53You can rope in Ollie Gordon here as well.
92:56Well, the thing that no one talked about is Jalen Wright actually started this game last week against the Minnesota Vikings.
93:02Like he was the one that was out there for the first series.
93:06So I guess that's kind of on my radar.
93:09And if he does that again, even after what Ollie Gordon did in terms of the two explosive runs and all that
93:15type of stuff, I would guess not. I would assume Ollie Gordon is back and or I should say emerging as the lead ball carrier for this team.
93:24But yeah, I mean, again, I don't want to use the same phrases that we talked about last week, but if Devon
93:30HN isn't hitting explosives, then how can you expect consistently both of these guys to do this?
93:35But Matt, like I talked about on the Sunday morning start sit show, like, Hey, the, the, the biggest sign that Ollie
93:42Gordon was going to do something in week four was that the entire fancy football world said that he wasn't.
93:48So we're doing that again though, this week. Well, I don't know.
93:51There were enough people, uh, victory lapping Ollie Gordon on Twitter.
93:55I saw on Sunday, like a lot of bad advice, but the Ollie Gordon waiver bid.
93:59So there's enough, uh, people out there supporting him.
94:02Maybe that will be good, but yeah, I like, I like Ollie Gordon as a player.
94:07Um, I probably, honestly, I probably like him better as a runner than Jalen Wright.
94:11Uh, but at the same time, this matchup, this matchup against the Bengals will be tricky just because you've typically been able
94:18to beat the Bengals with these perimeter runs. I don't know if that's going to consistently be available for this Dolphins team,
94:25but they do have a big mauling offensive line.
94:27So potentially that could work in their favor. Yeah.
94:30Only note on that is the opposition. When Dexter Lawrence goes off the field, tend to go and hurry up and no huddle to keep Dexter Lawrence off.
94:38Keep him off. Um, yes, keep, keep him off.
94:41And I believe Chris Rodriguez touchdown run last week was when Dexter Lawrence was off the field.
94:46So yeah, he, he is such a pivotal piece, uh, to that defensive line on off splits are outrageous with him on and off the field right now.
94:54All it takes is one play, uh, in fantasy football.
94:57There you go. Okay. Nelson sends in. Sadly, it may have to be Will Shipley.
95:02I already have Brees Hall out and may also be without Ramondre.
95:05So it may come down to Kyron and Shipley as my running backs.
95:09Well, look at it this way, Nelson Kyron right now with double digit targets and leading the NFL and air yards per
95:16target by a decent bit 4.0 air yards per target, by the way, for Kyron Williams.
95:21Okay. Um, leading all running backs. He might score you enough points on his own that if Will Shipley can just get
95:27you five, six, maybe you're good enough. Yep. Matt, I don't want to steal the microphone here or hawk the spotlight.
95:33Um, I am in a worse running back situation than all of these people in the expert league.
95:39Um, I am most likely going to have to start Woody Marks and like maybe Blake Corum in that league because I have.
95:46Yeah. One of our, uh, Chris, Chris Kianci. I, uh, one of the, one of the folks here did send in Woody Marks.
95:53So there is at least another person considering Woody Marks.
95:56We're going to have to start both of them.
95:58Yes, Matt, because I have my three running backs in that league are Ken Walker, Bree Saul and Saquon Barkley.
96:04So I have nothing like I'm already waving the white flag.
96:08I almost pulled everyone out of my starting lineup and just let my opposition, uh, have the victory this week.
96:14That's kind of the state of denial. I am at with, uh, the running back spot.
96:18Who are you, who are you playing this week?
96:21Chris Allen. Chris Allen. I think, I think I'm playing Chris Allen.
96:25Maybe Ray. He doesn't need it. He doesn't need to win.
96:28Oh, you, if it's Ray, you, you have to try against Ray.
96:31Okay. You gotta, you gotta try. Also, you should know this.
96:35You have to try against Ray. Cause I do the recap show with Ray.
96:39So I can't, I can't have you waving the white flag.
96:42If you're playing Ray. Um, yeah, no, you should, are you openly admitting on the show right now that you're not taking
96:49the, the expert seriously that you're not locked in?
96:51I I'm playing Chris, by the way, I am the one that's playing Chris.
96:56So maybe it's Ray. Maybe it's Ray. I'm looking, I'm looking at it right now.
97:00Yes, it's Ray. It's Ray. You can't, you cannot concede a win to Ray.
97:04Also Ray's team's pretty bad. So you might be able to actually just wave the white flag and still accidentally.
97:10It seems a lot better than mine this week.
97:13It seems a lot better than mine this week.
97:16Yeah. Yeah. God, your team does. Your team stinks.
97:18Wow. That's pretty bad. Okay. Anyways. Yeah. He has B.
97:21John. You might outscore your entire team just with B.
97:24John. Considering that running by position. That's pretty brutal right there.
97:28Okay. Um, yeah, Josh, what about Woody Marks? So, cause again, Chris did ask, we are talking about the people here, not just you.
97:35Yes. But what's the logic on Woody Marks? Besides, uh, as Chris says, okay, submission, pray for me.
97:40So you're praying. Chris is praying. We're all praying for Woody Marks to, to, to have a day.
97:45One David Montgomery is washed. Okay. After that week one, he's been abysmal over these last three weeks.
97:51Now you can attach some of that to the offensive line.
97:54However, they are seven and a half point favorites in this game.
97:58I don't think Nick Caley is going to just totally abandon the run as we talked about before.
98:03Uh, and it's already a series by series rotation.
98:06And so what we have seen with Woody Marks over the last two weeks is he scored his touchdowns in the series that he is on the field.
98:14So again, this is like the environment versus the last few that the, I mean, cause they haven't won a game, but
98:21the Texans should get their first win of the season.
98:24And if that's the case, then we get some running back work.
98:27And it wouldn't shock me at all, Matt, if we get to a point in a couple of weeks that Woody Marks
98:34is the first one on the field over David Montgomery.
98:37Oh, you can tell they've wanted to do it.
98:40They keep leaking out. Like we want to split this back foot up.
98:43We want to split this back foot up. I just think Woody Marks hasn't quite done enough to grab the job, but
98:50if he had, he would, he would be starting over David Montgomery.
98:54I'm, I'm pretty convinced, uh, on that one. So pretty sick trade there for the David Montgomery stuff at this point.
99:00Yeah. We talked about Will Shipley earlier. I don't know.
99:03Not feeling great about Don Tavian Wicks was, by the way, was added to the injury report, the hamstring injury as we were taping this show.
99:11So, um, that's all three of the top Eagles receivers that at one point this year have dealt with hamstring injuries.
99:17Don't know what's going on in that room. Not feeling great about that team scoring a lot of points.
99:23So Will Shipley will have to be a PPR scam if he is going to work out here.
99:28Next one comes in from Dom. By the way, I hear your, is that your son crying in the background?
99:34Hearing the state of your fantasy team, Josh, you, you've brought your child to tears.
99:38That's a, that's how bad. Wow. I was meaner than what you said about him.
99:43He's no, no, no. He's, he's catching up on the show and he's at the point that they showed the Eckler interview.
99:49So, you know what? That, that would bring, I mean, that almost brought me to tears.
99:54So I'm with him on that one. Okay. Next one comes in from Dom has, I have a hole at running back
100:01two because I drafted Bowers and needed. Okay. Well now you're just bragging about your team.
100:06They need Keaton Mitchell, uh, to be there running back too.
100:09Well, that's great. You got a great receiver core.
100:12You got Brock Bowers. How are you feeling about starting Keaton Mitchell at the running back two spot this week?
100:17Josh. So I understand some of the underlying metrics and in your underlying metrics league, he might be on the rise because
100:24he had 45% of the backfield touches last week.
100:27But Matt, I just don't think it's going to get to a point with even how bad Omar and Hampton has been.
100:33And I mean, the state of the charters offensive line this week is truly players have never heard of starting along the
100:40offensive line at left tackle and right tackle. So bad.
100:43Um, I, I, I don't think Mike McDaniel is ever going to build his rushing offense around Keaton Mitchell.
100:49Um, you know, he's, he's more of like a glorified role player and like a role player plus, and there's nothing wrong with that on a good team.
100:57He would be getting more points, but I just highly doubt we're going to get to a point with him getting, you
101:03know, 60% of the work and it might get its peak at like 55%.
101:08Yeah, I think that's right. Okay. Next one comes in from Gail going with a Marian Hampton, who yes, now is in
101:14the running back to zone and Brian Robinson Jr.
101:17Unless Saquon has a miracle recovery, he will not.
101:20So you know what the deal is with Hampton at this point.
101:23I want to ask you about Brian Robinson. Do you think how much standalone value do you believe that Brian Robinson Jr.
101:30Has at this point? In teams that they're going to beat up on.
101:34I think the standalone value is actually legitimate. Um, I've been comparing him to maybe this year's version of common guy.
101:40As we saw last year, it kind of was two series to one series.
101:44And then depending again on the drive, when they scored touchdowns, that's where Brian Robinson comes in.
101:49I mean, think about it, Matt. If, if we were in an alternate universe where Kevin Stefanski only wanted one running back to get the ball, like B.
101:58John Robinson would have had five Russians touchdowns on Monday night football.
102:01Like that would have been outrageous, but again, he stuck with what he has here.
102:06And Brian Robinson is a perfectly solid running back to.
102:09And again, like, I don't think that the Falcons are going to score 40 points every single week.
102:14I'm going on a ledge and saying that. And again, they're only projected for 23 and a half this week.
102:20So this is a good test of it. But when we get to these conversations of, Hey, the wide receiver 34 or
102:27this running back to like Brian Robinson might be the running back 20 on the week heading into the season.
102:32That, that, that is, that is not shocking to me.
102:35And for a team that loves to run the ball inside the five yard line, there's a solid chance of a rushing score every single week.
102:43I have a dynasty team and it's a, it's a good team.
102:47It competes every year, but I have never been able to figure out this running back to spot.
102:52Just it's never a Chris McCaffrey is running back one.
102:55So I'm on a ticking time bomb with that one there too.
102:59But I have kept trying to hit on something at running back to Jonathan Brooks was hoping this was going to be his little bounce back year.
103:07That's not happening. Picked up Marshawn load off the waiver wire.
103:10That's not happening. Jonah Coleman drafted it on IR.
103:13The guy that was my running back to for a while when he was the starting running back for the commanders.
103:19And then I couldn't use him last year. It was Brian Robinson.
103:23I think I'm back to Brian Robinson as the running back to in, in this league.
103:27Cause again, if you've just hit chaos at that spot, you're basically hunting a touchdown.
103:32But with the way this team is moving the football right now on the ground, I think you can hunt the touchdown with Brian Robinson.
103:39And so weirdly again, I can't, I mean, when we're talking about these guys like Shipley and Jalen Wright and Woody Morris,
103:46I feel much better about chasing that with Brian Robinson right now.
103:50Yeah. Look, you don't want to play Brian Robinson when the team is underdogs, when they're projected for 21 ish points, but a game.
103:57And even here, it's kind of low 23 and a half, but there'll be others when, you know, the Falcons, like when
104:03they play the saints again, that'll be up to 25, 26.
104:07Brian Robinson is a perfectly fine flex or even running back to in a pinch.
104:11Last one. I want to get you on here just cause we got some news on this before we get out of here.
104:18The one and only was somebody at camp. Scadaboo nursing a sore shoulder, splitting goal and opportunities, but also Kyle Manunga.
104:24It was one of their players here, nursing a sore thumb.
104:27Turns out common guy, according to Jeremy Fowler is dealing with a turf toe injury, placing uncertainty around his availability over the next one to two weeks.
104:36He got a lot of work in a week for a guy that yeah, 30 carries for a guy that's not dealing with turf toe.
104:43So that is definitely a problematic injury there for the Chicago bears.
104:47It absolutely is. And his finger, his thumb was pointed in the opposite direction.
104:51I don't know if you saw that during that game too.
104:54This is oddly worded in that uncertainty of his availability of the next one to two weeks.
104:59And he's hoping to play through it. So unfortunately, it's one of those situations, Matt, that as we get to these injuries
105:06and these bye weeks, like if he suited up and active, you can play common guy.
105:10But then one, you can't expect him to get 30 touches.
105:14But two, if there's a bit of an issue, you know, the turf toe flares up or the thumb injury flares up,
105:20whatever, then you might see an even more decreased snap count versus the 50 50 as we were seeing before.
105:26So I'm kind of a little bit nervous that this might be like running back version of DJ Moore and Lad McConkie
105:33of the frustrations of, hey, he's starting. So you have to start him.
105:37And yet he then only goes on to play like 30% snaps.
105:40Yeah, I share those concerns. And let's hope that Ben Johnson, DeAndre Swift, after Ben Johnson called his fumble egregious, let's hope
105:47they can make up during this week so that DeAndre Swift can get a bunch of work once again.
105:53Okay, you guys got a lineup dilemma, trade debate or league controversy.
105:56The fantasy hotline is open all season long. So send us your toughest questions and we might just feature them in an upcoming episode.
106:03And that is going to do it for us today.
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106:16And Josh, shout out to you, buddy. We will not see you on Sunday morning.
106:21You have a real life event to do. So you will be out on Sunday morning.
106:25However, definitely still check out Fantasy Football Live in the morning with me, Boone.
106:30Hayden is going to be doing the Q&A segment.
106:32And then, Josh, you're back in action for what many people are saying is the best recap show out there right now with you, me and Hayden.
106:40It's been great. You've been a fantastic addition to that.
106:43So the flow is fantastic. And we hit on every single fantasy relevant player for all of you.
106:49So you can watch Red Zone. And then, oh my gosh, this isn't even the worst.
106:53I was going to say, this is a nothing burger.
106:56I mean, yeah, there's some worst ones in college.
106:59This is a nothing burger. This is a nice picture of Josh.
107:03Josh, isn't this your Twitter profile picture that they're showing here right now?
107:07That was a different view. That was a little bit better.
107:10I'm not sure why I picked that shirt. I think that I was hungover during this photo shoot, if we're just being fully honest.
107:17I'm glad you had a good time. I think you look handsome here.
107:21Okay. I just want to say, I think you look nice.
107:24I think you look handsome. You don't have like a weird, rustic looking beard.
107:28I think you look handsome. You know, that after I shaved it and trimmed it down to this, my wife was like, thank God.
107:36I did. I was not. I thought the fantasy hipsters was back in like 2018, but you carried it.
107:41So 2022, it looked like post COVID. I kind of had a little bit of a let's bring the long beard back.
107:48And it was a bad idea. We all made some mistakes during that period, you know, and now we're all, we're all, we're all back.
107:55Well, we're mostly back on track. Okay. We're mostly back on track.
107:59All right. I'm feeling pretty good. Josh is feeling pretty good.
108:02I love doing the recap show with Josh and love the Sunday mornings as well.
108:07So make sure you guys tune in for those shows.
108:10Absolutely electric content. We will see you guys all on Sunday for the best recap show that you could possibly find out there until then we are out.