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10 fantasy data points you need to know for Week 6

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1 hr 34 min
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Oct 14, 2026
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Wed, October 14, 2026
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Mike EvansGarrett WilsonChristian WatsonColston LovelandJeremiyah LoveLuther BurdenMatthew GoldenRome OdunzeA.J. BrownCeeDee LambDrake LondonGeorge PickensIsaiah LikelyJordan Love
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A.J. Brown

NegativeUsage57:17

The Cowboys have 71% of their air yards concentrated between two players, placing them second behind the Falcons (80% to Drake London) and tied with the Packers (70.6%) in air yard concentration among top receiving duos.

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NegativeRole60:55

AJ Brown is not available for the Patriots; Drake Maye is connecting on downfield throws and improving without him, suggesting the offense is developing independent of Brown's presence.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveRole82:30

Bucky Irving has been the bright spot in the Buccaneers offense, delivering excellent games; Matt Harmon hopes the team continues to give him the football, suggesting Irving's role and production are more reliable than the pass-catchers in Tampa Bay's spread-out passing game.

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Caleb Williams

NegativeProjection14:53

Williams' impending return should restore explosive plays to Bears offense (currently 19th in explosive play rate vs. 7th in 2025). However, McFarlane notes the challenge is whether Caleb can keep the offense on time and avoid long down-and-distance situations. Caleb struggled early in season with staying on schedule; Ben Johnson wants to run offense on time. Caleb's tendency to wait for big plays rather than taking short completions may limit upside for certain receivers.

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CeeDee Lamb

NegativeUsage57:17

CeeDee Lamb is part of the Cowboys' top receiving duo that accounts for 71% of team air yards, placing Dallas second in air yard concentration behind the Falcons and tied with the Packers.

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NegativeUsage58:29

CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens represent a one-two receiving concentration for the Cowboys, who have 71% of air yards going to two players; this is described as a discount on depth, with no meaningful third receiving option.

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Chris Brooks

NegativeDepth Chart54:48

Brooks was not in the Packers game Week 5; Pierre Strong Jr. was active, but Chris Brooks was getting more of the role early in the week before the game. Harmon notes this makes it tricky to assess the Packers running back situation.

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Chris Godwin

PositiveUsage81:40

Chris Godwin has a 14% target share in the Buccaneers' extremely spread-out passing offense, which ranks third-highest in three-plus receiver sets; the offense distributes targets across six players with 10%+ target share, making it difficult for any single receiver to accumulate consistent fantasy production.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection53:28

Matt Harmon highlights Watson as part of an "extremely concentrated duo" with Matthew Golden in the Packers passing game alongside Jordan Love. With offensive line improvements (veteran band-aids stopping the bleeding), Harmon expects the passing game to "go to the moon," making Watson and Golden some of the best picks of the year.

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PositiveRole55:50

Christian Watson's role has been completely changed; his average depth of route is way down from historical levels, with him in motion and lining up all over the field. Despite still maintaining a deep average depth of target, his route tree shows he's doing many other things—getting in-breaking routes, motion to protect from coverage, and opportunities to work after the catch, similar to Mike Evans' recent usage.

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PositiveRole59:02

Christian Watson is one of the two primary air-yard recipients in the Packers offense alongside Matthew Golden; if the run game becomes functional, this increases the potency of the offense overall and Watson's receiving opportunities.

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Chuba Hubbard

PositiveProjection62:23

Matt Harmon compares Rhamondre Stevenson's potential upside to Chuba Hubbard's current production, noting that Hubbard is playing better than Stevenson right now and is a low-end running back one when active. Harmon suggests Stevenson could reach a similar tier, making him a strong RB2 play with upside.

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Cole Kmet

NegativeProjection14:53

Kmet has 8.4 average depth of completion on completed targets through five weeks, second-best on Bears offense behind Odunze. Caleb Williams' return should improve explosive plays and deep ball accuracy, potentially benefiting Kmet's role in the intermediate passing game.

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Colston Loveland

NegativeProjection14:53

Loveland has lowest average depth of completion on Bears at 4.38 through five weeks. McFarlane notes Loveland is rotating at 70% route participation, and his short-range role is not conducive to benefiting from Caleb Williams' return. Loveland's role remains limited and inconsistent with rotating snap counts.

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NegativeRole18:37

Loveland is rotating at 70% route participation rate and went earliest in drafts as a top-three tight end; he's being kept back to block due to offensive line issues, which limits his receiving opportunities despite his success at the end of last season.

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PositiveProjection23:00

Matt Harmon has downgraded Loveland to borderline tight end one after he was drafted as a top-three tight end; he has a 50% contested catch rate on fewer contested targets than Burden, but the role compression from Khalif Raymond's 16.7% target share limits his ceiling.

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Corey Kiner

NegativeUsage62:03

Corey Kiner played 60% of snaps and had 67% of rushing attempts in the fourth quarter of Week 5, but this was in a blowout game context when Rhamondre Stevenson had already accumulated the bulk of the workload earlier in the game.

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Drake London

NegativeUsage57:17

Drake London accounts for almost 80% of the Falcons' air yards going to their top two receivers, making him the dominant target in Atlanta's passing game.

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NegativeUsage58:24

Drake London accounts for nearly 80% of the Falcons' air yards, with two players taking up over 70% of team air yards; this concentration reflects the limited receiving depth in Atlanta's offense.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection60:50

Drake Maye has improved significantly over the last couple of games; his overthrows are gone and he is now connecting on downfield plays. He is doing this without AJ Brown, and the Patriots offense looks very different than it did in Week 1. This improvement supports the upside of Patriots skill position players like Ramond Ray Stevenson.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveBreakout36:09

Wilson is having a great start to his career and is one of the 10 best receivers in the league; he came off an awesome game against Cleveland where he was open consistently against both man and zone coverage, and the environment is now at a point where his top-10 receiver talent can translate to elite fantasy production.

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PositiveProjection36:09

Garrett Wilson is on pace for 105 catches, 1,271 yards, and 10 touchdowns—all career highs—and is crushing environment-sensitive per-route stats with 2.35 yards per route run and 11.3% first downs per route run despite playing 18% of snaps in the slot; he's averaging 14.5 PPR per game.

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PositiveProjection37:07

31% target share on the season; two games over 23 fantasy points, one at 16.7, one at 13.9, and only one dud at 5.7 in first five weeks. Matt Harmon emphasizes Wilson doesn't need an elite quarterback, just a serviceable middle-of-the-pack one like Geno Smith, who will lock onto him. Geno attempted tight window throws with Seattle and will make those throws to Wilson. Scott Turner, his coach, praised Wilson's ability to get open against any coverage (man, zone) and noted his 93rd percentile success rate versus man coverage last year. Harmon is "very young on Garrett Wilson" and wishes he had drafted him more; currently a low-end WR1 in fantasy.

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PositiveValue41:16

In dynasty, Harmon feels Wilson belongs closer to rank 10 than 15-19 right now; this is the lowest he's ever ranked Wilson historically. Despite younger receivers like Jalen Waddle, Jalen Coker, and Lad McConkie rising, Harmon views this as a great time to buy Wilson in dynasty given Jets could look different next year with potential rookie QB. He advises not overthinking the QB situation and not selling low; Wilson should be sold high as a low-end WR1, not below that price.

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George Pickens

NegativeUsage57:17

George Pickens is part of the Packers' top receiving duo that accounts for 70.6% of team air yards, placing Green Bay third in air yard concentration behind the Falcons and Cowboys.

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NegativeUsage58:29

George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb represent a one-two receiving concentration for the Cowboys, who have 71% of air yards going to two players; this is described as a discount on depth, with no meaningful third receiving option.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveProjection0:47

Likely ranks third in NFL with 9.4 targets per game and second with 69.6 air yards per game; holds 30% target share leading the NFL. Historical comps with similar utilization (8+ targets, 65+ air yards per game) averaged 16-18 fantasy points per game; Likely currently at 7.1 PPG with utilization score of 95. Dwayne McFarlane projects him as tight end three or four rest of season, behind Bowers and McBride, with potential to average 16.8 fantasy points per game based on utilization trends.

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PositiveRole13:43

Likely is essentially the Ravens' slot receiver, running routes on 83% of team dropbacks and operating in the slot on 71% of snaps. With Malik Neighbors at only 16.7% slot snap rate, Likely consolidates the slot role. Against the Texans in Week 7, targets typically funnel over the middle of the field, creating a favorable matchup for Likely's role.

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Jalen Coker

PositiveValue51:48

Harmon is a "huge Coker guy" and suggests he's a good trade target if you have depth at receiver (e.g., Christian Watson, Mike Evans) and need to upgrade your running back room. Coker is valuable enough to move in a same-position trade to improve overall team construction.

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Jayden Reed

PositiveInjury58:37

Jaden Reed's injury removes him from the Packers' receiving depth chart, eliminating a potential downfield target option in an offense where Matthew Golden and Christian Watson are the primary air-yard recipients.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeRole40:48

Harmon expresses frustration that Waddle, acquired via first-round pick trade, is being used in a part-time role. He wishes he had Garrett Wilson over Waddle on some teams, suggesting Waddle's limited usage is a disappointment relative to the capital invested.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveRole63:07

After a strong Week 5 performance, Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy both signaled confidence in Jalen Warren as Pittsburgh's future at running back, with McCarthy explicitly stating he's the team's future player despite Rico Dowdle's eventual return. Harmon notes Warren is performing like a poor man's Jameer Gibbs and should not relinquish the job, positioning him as a high-value play with long-term role security.

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Jeremiyah Love

PositiveBreakout45:07

Dwayne McFarlane identifies Love as a buy-low after scoring 6.5 and 2.2 fantasy points over last two weeks; league managers are panicking and dogpiling on him. Strong three-week rushing trend: 78% of carries three weeks ago, 71% last week. In Week 4 before ankle tweak, he had 75% snap share and 67% rush share (higher than the breakout week). Last week vs. Lions, he played 11% of snaps in fourth quarter (blowout), but in first half had 74% snap share, 90% rushing attempts, and 42% route share. Cardinals are actively handing him the RB1 job. McFarlane projects him as low-end RB2 rest of season with ceiling as low-end RB1 (17-20% of the time). Perfect buy moment when market sentiment is worst.

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NegativeInjury46:59

Love is nursing a new ankle injury after tweaking it in Week 4 second quarter. Last week vs. Lions, he was limited to 11% of snaps in fourth quarter due to injury management in blowout, but played 74% of snaps in first half when game was competitive. Concern exists about whether Cardinals will push him given nagging injuries and whether he could be scripted out of games.

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PositiveValue49:04

McFarlane cites multiple one-for-one trades on fantasycalc.com showing Love's depressed market value: straight up for Cam Saquon (Love preferred), Keaton Mitchell, Denzel Boston, and Lad McConkie. McFarlane would take Love over Saquon in a straight-up deal and over McConkie if you need a running back. These trades show how low the market has pushed Love and represent a buying opportunity.

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Jordan Love

PositiveProjection53:28

Harmon notes that with Packers offensive line improvements (veteran band-aids stopping the bleeding), the passing game is positioned to "go to the moon." Love benefits from an extremely concentrated passing game with Matthew Golden and Christian Watson, making them some of the best picks of the year.

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PositiveRole55:34

Packers have protected Jordan Love significantly better over the last two games, still giving up a high pressure rate but with improved offensive line designs that allow Love time to push the ball downfield—the core of what the offense wants to do.

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Kalif Raymond

NegativeProjection14:53

Raymond has 5.0 average depth of completion through five weeks, indicating limited involvement in explosive plays. With Bears offense struggling to generate explosive plays (19th in explosive play rate through five weeks vs. 7th in 2025), Raymond's role remains limited and unlikely to improve significantly with Caleb Williams' return.

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PositiveUsage23:00

Raymond has a 16.7% target share that nobody projected; he's been more involved than expected in the first three weeks, but his opportunity is fading over the last two weeks and his gimmicky designer plays are going nowhere, potentially opening the door for Loveland and Burden if his role continues to decline.

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Kenneth Gainwell

NegativeUsage81:40

Kenny Gainwell has an 11% target share in the Buccaneers offense, which is part of the team's extreme target distribution across six players with 10%+ target share.

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Luther Burden

NegativeRole18:00

Burden has 6.7 average depth of completion and operates in the mold of short-range targets that Caleb Williams tends to avoid. McFarlane notes Burden may have been better with backup quarterbacks (Case Keenum, Tyson Bajent) who rely on dink-and-dunk passing. Despite season-high 79% route share last week and team-leading target share, Burden's role may not improve with Caleb's return since Caleb prefers to wait for big plays rather than taking short completions.

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NegativeRole18:29

Burden has a season-high 79% route share but is rotating with other receivers; he has the highest target share on the team but runs the most difficult routes with the highest average depth of route, limiting immediate fantasy utility despite Ben Johnson's play-action scheme designed to create easy opportunities.

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NegativeUsage20:07

Burden has the most contested targets on the team (50% contested catch rate) and hasn't clicked on anything beyond gimmicky designer plays; he needs to show more success in intermediate areas where he demonstrated capability in his rookie season, but hasn't finished those plays effectively.

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MarShawn Lloyd

PositiveRole55:18

Lloyd had the hot hand after Week 5 game with two or three really good runs; coaches like his willingness to lower shoulder pad and get lower than defender for extra 2-3 yards and first downs, rather than trying to hurdle. This physical, downhill approach is the kind of thing coaches prefer. Lloyd has an opportunity if he continues this approach, though it's just one data point.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveProjection53:28

Harmon identifies Golden as part of an "extremely concentrated duo" with Christian Watson in the Packers passing game alongside Jordan Love. With offensive line improvements, Harmon expects the passing game to "go to the moon," making Golden and Watson some of the best picks of the year.

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PositiveBreakout56:34

Matthew Golden has had a dramatic turnaround from year one; he's now playing on the outside against top-tier cover corners and beating them. His hands are exceptional this year—he brings them late and quick, snatching balls out of position like a magician and tucking them away rapidly. His hand talent mirrors his college superpower, and while he has occasional drops, his ability to make big-time catches means he'll continue to get targeted despite imperfect ball placement.

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PositiveRole59:29

Matthew Golden is receiving the downfield air yards in the Packers offense and has demonstrated late hands that were part of his prospect profile; this skill has shown up this season after he was cycled through various roles early on. Matt Harmon credits Golden's late hands as a key part of his receiving profile.

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Mike Evans

PositiveRole26:28

Evans is not yet playing a full-time role (no 80% route share yet) but is managing workload and still dealing with a rib injury; however, he's getting deep shots and is in the window of the quarterback much more often, operating in a Kyle Shanahan scheme that's the best he's ever played in, with more vertical looks and multiple receiver sets.

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PositiveProjection27:30

Evans is upgraded to mid-range wide receiver two this week with another strong week moving him to WR1 territory; he has a 31% target per route run (second in NFL behind Jackson Smith-Njigba) and ranks third in yards per route run at 3.05, smashing against man coverage.

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PositiveUsage30:00

Evans' go route rate has dropped to 16.8% this year (lowest on record) as he's getting downfield looks via deeper corner routes and out routes on sail concepts in the Kyle Shanahan offense; his comeback route rate is 4.7% (highest among receivers with 100+ routes), showcasing elite route-running technique at age 33.

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PositiveMatchup32:00

Evans has favorable matchups ahead: Commanders (+4.3 PPG boost to WRs), Falcons (neutral), bye week, Raiders (+3.7 PPG), and Cowboys (historically poor coverage); Matt Harmon called him a 'bye high' in the utilization report, suggesting his value will only increase after these matchups if healthy.

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PositiveValue33:00

Evans has a utilization score of 82 in his three healthy games; historically, 51% of receivers with that score finish as WR7-12, making his median outcome a high-end WR2; Harmon says you can buy him as a mid-range WR2 and still profit, and trade data shows people haven't woken up to his value yet.

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Pierre Strong Jr.

NegativeDepth Chart54:48

Strong Jr. was active in Week 5 Packers game, getting some snaps, though Chris Brooks was getting more of the role early in the week before the game.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

PositiveRole61:28

After Trevion Henry left the game, Stevenson played 86% of snaps, 75% of rushing attempts, and 60% route share—elite workload metrics. Matt Harmon projects him as a borderline running back one at worst as long as Henry remains out, with four consecutive weeks of favorable matchups (Jets +2.4, Bears +1.2, Dolphins +4.7, Packers +3.4 fantasy points per game to opposing RB rooms), positioning him as a plug-and-play RB2 with potential to finish as a low-end RB1.

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Rico Dowdle

NegativeRole63:23

Mike McCarthy indicated that despite Rico Dowdle's eventual return from injury, Jalen Warren is now Pittsburgh's future at running back, suggesting Dowdle will not reclaim a 50-50 split or primary role. This signals a significant downgrade to Dowdle's fantasy value and role going forward.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeProjection14:53

Odunze leads Bears pass catchers with 13.7 average depth of completion on completed targets through five weeks. However, McFarlane notes Odunze is stuck on the boundary with the deepest average depth of route on the team, mostly working deep. While Caleb Williams' return should improve explosive plays, Odunze's role may not benefit as much since he's already working downfield and Caleb tends to wait for big plays rather than taking short completions.

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PositiveRole18:37

Odunze is in the least conducive role despite being on the field; he runs the most difficult routes and has a 75% contested target rate, with losses coming in difficult areas that are hard to overcome mentally, limiting his fantasy upside despite his touchdown against the Eagles.

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PositiveProjection23:00

Matt Harmon has downgraded Odunze from a wide receiver three (draft position) to wide receiver four to five territory for the rest of the season due to role limitations and contested target struggles.

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Ted Hurst

NegativeRole81:40

Ted Hurst has an 11% target share in the Buccaneers offense but functions more as a deep threat than a traditional tight end; his role is specialized for big, chunky deep shots rather than consistent volume.

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TreVeyon Henderson

NegativeInjury60:07

Trevion Henderson has a high ankle sprain with an uncertain timeline; the injury is expected to sideline him at least a couple of weeks, though high ankle sprains can extend to four weeks or longer. His absence opens up carries for Ramond Ray Stevenson.

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Tucker Kraft

NegativeRole58:49

Tucker Kraft is involved in the Packers offense but does not receive downfield looks; his role is winning in the short area and generating yards after the catch, not deep receiving work. As he gets healthier, his involvement may increase, but the downfield air yards are going to Matthew Golden and Christian Watson.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveValue42:00

Harmon doesn't regret Zay Flowers bumping Garrett Wilson in his dynasty rankings, suggesting Flowers is a worthy alternative to Wilson at receiver.

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NegativeMatchup83:20

Zay Flowers, like Emeka Ibuka, benefited from a favorable matchup against the Cowboys' weak coverage, catching a long third-down play late in the game; however, the coverage breakdown was not repeatable and does not indicate a sustainable trend.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00Big show for you here today. It is the Week 6 data dump, as always here on a Tuesday.
0:05However, a little bit of a special twist here.
0:08We've got Dwayne McFarlane of Fantasy Life stepping in for Ray Garvin here today, and it's great.
0:12We've got a ton of awesome information to get through here.
0:15So many database storylines. Obviously, you guys know Dwayne's work from the Utilization Report.
0:19This is right up his alley. We talk about whether Isaiah Likely is a set-it-and-forget-it tight end one rest of season.
0:25Can Caleb Williams impending return, fix what's wrong with the Chicago Bears pass catchers?
0:29Also, I know we just put Jeremiah Love in the coping corner, but Dwayne says he actually might be a buy low.
0:35Plus, we have the Week 5 Expert League recap.
0:37All that and more come up on today's show.
0:40Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
0:43Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast, and it is a hell of a day to talk ball.
0:48We have our usual Tuesday show here with the weekly data dump.
0:51However, Ray Garvin not joining me today. Ray is out for today and joining me is a very special guest, friend of
0:57the show, Dwayne McFarlane of Fantasy Life. Dwayne, what's going on, buddy?
1:00What is up, Mr. Harmon? I'm sorry, Ray. Don't let me snatch your chain.
1:04Jeremy Bernard might snatch Michael Pittman's chain because he's going to miss some time.
1:08I'm just telling you. Do we think he's snatching Michael Pittman's chain?
1:11What about DK Metcalf's chain? I mean, Jeremy Bernard coming for wide receiver one.
1:15Have you ever seen Aaron Rodgers talk about DK Metcalf the way that he talked about Jeremy Bernard knowing all the checks
1:21and the calls and the hand signals? I don't think so, Dwayne McFarlane.
1:25You're coming in hot right at the top of the show.
1:28It took seven years to talk that way about Devontae Adams.
1:31I mean, what are you talking about? You know, it's a great point.
1:34It took a minute. Yeah, but in Pittsburgh, there are plenty of chains available to be snatched right now.
1:40So we'll see how Bernard does. We'll see how Ray Garvin does at the end of the show.
1:45Maybe you're going to come in here and take the spot, but we'll see.
1:48We wish Ray the best. He'll be back next week for sure.
1:52However, on today's show, we got a bunch to get into today.
1:55It is the usual weekly data dump. We each share five stats.
1:58We think you guys need to know heading into each week's games.
2:02We break it all down, everything you need to know, and it's great to have the utilization report expert himself here with us, Dwayne McFarlane, for that one.
2:09He also is going to stick around at the end of the show for our Yahoo Fantasy Expert League recap.
2:15So Dwayne is going to be able to talk trash about my team.
2:18He's going to be able to tell everybody else's teams that they suck.
2:22So a little bonus segment with Dwayne at the end of the show.
2:26But for now, let's get into it. Welcome to the week six data dump.
2:30Yes, science. Calculations are correct. You're going to see some serious.
2:33Like I said, this is what we do every single week here on the show.
2:37We each give five database storylines that the people need to know.
2:40And Dwayne, I'm going to throw it to you.
2:42What is your first stat? What storyline do you think the people need to be following here?
2:47Well, I mean, this is one that's been emerging.
2:50We had a few down games from Isaiah likely, but the underlying utilization, you know, it's been there.
2:55Harmon, like the targets, the air yards, all the things that we really care about.
2:59If you look at him, 9.4 targets per game, he ranks third in the NFL, 69.6 air yards per game.
3:04He ranks second in the NFL. And for tight ends specifically, like the air yards matter more than for wide receivers.
3:10They're predictive for wide receivers, but they're really important for the tight end position.
3:14So we just have a guy getting a ton of targets and he's getting downfield, doing a lot of damage.
3:19And the offense is really just consolidated, right? Around what we have here with likely.
3:23I mean, 30% target share leads the NFL. But if you look like at the historical comps, right?
3:28That have been at least not eight and a half targets, as well as eight to 65 air yards per game.
3:34I won't name all of them, but it's a bunch of dudes that scored 16 to 18 fantasy points per game as tight ends.
3:41Right now we have Isaiah likely in third sitting at 7.1.
3:44He's got the third best utilization score of a 95.
3:47So the reason I create the utilization score is I can create these ranges of outcomes, Harmon.
3:51And so it's a little bit different than expected fantasy points.
3:54Like they're really complementary to one another, but like expected fantasy points, you know how that works.
3:59It's really just looking at, all right, did you get a target?
4:02Where did you get it on the field? And then ultimately, what did we expect you to do with that?
4:08This goes a little beyond that because we're looking at the routes.
4:11We're looking at snaps inside the five, inside the 10, all these different things.
4:15They've averaged 16.8 fantasy points per game. So I think this is a situation where Isaiah likely is here to stay, man.
4:21I think you could put him as high as tight end three.
4:24If you want to argue Kittle over him as tight end three, put likely at tight end four.
4:29I think that works as well, but I think he's in a mini tier after Bowers and McBride.
4:34God, this is one of those situations, Dwayne, and you know this doing content all year round.
4:39I think I've said this on the show before that I really hope people listened to the June and July version of
4:45Matt Harmon when talking about the Isaiah likely projections for the season, because this was a tight end.
4:50I was all in on on that point. And then when it sounded like, okay, Malik neighbors was going to get back.
4:56And I kind of maybe backed off that a little bit, but man, he's set up really to be the second target
5:02on the team that you're kind of breaking down here.
5:05I think Malik I fields is a rookie that looks promising as some level of a role player throughout the course of
5:11his career, but not a guy that's likely, you know, no pun intended here.
5:15Likely to be a high end target getter at any point this year.
5:18For sure. Darnell Mooney is like getting into arguments on the sideline with Jameis Winston.
5:22He's not a guy that's going to disrupt this.
5:25I feel like likely is just like you said, he's here to stay.
5:28Even if Winston, I think you'd probably agree has been shaky at best from a real life standpoint.
5:33He can get these guys the football and run the scam with neighbors and likely.
5:38And I think that is going to continue here.
5:40Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest risk would like moving likely too high in your rest of season ranks is what if we do see JJ McCarthy?
5:48You know, we all experienced that last year with Justin Jefferson.
5:51And you know, you know how this stuff goes.
5:53I want to write an article. I've talked about it for a while and say, so what if I told you, you
5:59know, because we have all these narratives. Well, if you got a bad quarterback, you know, your receivers can't produce.
6:05But then you have receivers that do produce with bad quarterbacks.
6:08But then you have guys like Justin Jefferson who people are like, doesn't matter who his quarterback is.
6:13It really did matter who his quarterback was last year.
6:16So that would be the one caveat is that potential for and because we know Winston's going to turn the ball over.
6:22And if there's one thing that those Harbaugh brothers hate, all coaches hate it, but they specifically hate it.
6:27Right. They hate it so much. Right. They got to wear the khaki pants.
6:31Well, I guess John wears the black pleated pants.
6:33His brother, you know, John was wearing the I may have him backwards, tan, black, whatever.
6:38They're both Jim. Jim is the pleated. Jim is the pleated khakis.
6:41Yeah. Yeah. It's Jim. Jim Harbaugh. So anyway, looking at this, you know, offense, that would be the one thing.
6:46Right. If suddenly Jameis Winston has the three turnover game and, you know, they just decide we can't have that.
6:52We're just going to run McCarthy experience that that would hurt.
6:55Yeah, that would obviously be brutal. We don't want that.
6:58Let's just keep JJ McCarthy. I actually want to completely scrap the McCarthy little gadgety run plays are doing to let's just keep JJ McCarthy.
7:05You know, meditating in the rain. Did you see that, by the way?
7:08The clip of him in the pregame? Prior to the game.
7:11Yeah. Yeah. Let's hope that's the most memorable thing that we get from JJ McCarthy from the 2026 NFL season.
7:17Although I do kind of suspect if the Giants, I mean, they got to start losing some games here, not just tying games.
7:23Got to start losing some games for Jameis to potentially give the job up.
7:27So I think we're in a pretty good spot there.
7:30And when we look at this team right now, their top two target getters, which is obviously neighbors and likely 57% of the targets to these two guys.
7:37The last couple of weeks, like it's, it's been just incredibly concentrated between these two guys.
7:42When everybody's healthy, it's really just, they're the only ones that get the football.
7:46I think that's going to continue here. So again, you said rest of season rankings, you would have it Bowers McBride.
7:51And then we're having the conversation between likely and Kittle.
7:54I think so. I think, you know, I think there's a tear break then and you get into the Laporta and some
8:00of the other guys we really like, but they don't have the raw volume.
8:04They're in good offenses, you know, and things like that.
8:07But I think when you think about the guys that could really consolidate the offense to themselves and the 49ers, part of
8:13that with Kittle is like, we know that there's going to be games that potentially a guy like Mike Evans will miss.
8:19Right. Or you've got an older running back in CMC.
8:22Debo Samuel's already hurt. So it's like a bit of a rotating chair.
8:25And as long as Kittle's healthy and he's one of the guys that's still on the field, you know, he has a
8:31chance to consolidate in ways that he didn't in the past because the offense just is not as good.
8:37So I do think it comes down to those two guys.
8:40I definitely have likely projected for more targets the rest of the way, but I have Kittle projected for more yards and touchdowns.
8:46And there's six tight ends so far this year that have run a route on 83 or more percent of their team dropbacks.
8:52It's McBride at 91 percent. Tyler Warren, 87 percent.
8:55Kate Otten. Kate Otten is always the funniest one whenever I read off this stack because you wouldn't know that he has
9:01run a route on 86 percent of the dropbacks, but he is out there running routes.
9:05Harold Fannin, Sam Laporta, Isaiah Likely. Then it goes down to Travis Kelsey at 79 percent.
9:10So six guys that are over 80 percent this year likely has been targeted on 31 percent of those routes.
9:15It is a big difference between him and some of these other players.
9:19And this is what we want. Like shout out to Andrew Cooper, who is one of the guys that's kind of founded this theory.
9:25It's like you want to if you're looking for breakout tight ends, you're looking for a guy who can lead his team
9:31in targets or at least be the second place guy.
9:34And certainly it's a pretty big drop off between Likely and all these other players.
9:38So I listen, Likely wanted to leave the Ravens.
9:41I think that was that's been made clear. You know, there's been a lot of national.
9:45And I was talking about this a little bit on the Sunday Night Recap show where, you know, there was obviously it's
9:51easy to say Mark Andrews that why they prioritize him over Likely.
9:54It seems like Likely wanted to move on and find a new opportunity.
9:58It's with the same coach in John Harbaugh. And yet this is why you want to move on here, because he's never
10:04he would never have been putting up these stats had he stayed at Baltimore.
10:08So shout out to Isaiah Likely here for sure.
10:10Can I get really quickly just get your thoughts on the Malik neighbors experience so far?
10:15Are you just kind of trusting the volume here with him?
10:18Because it's been from, I would say, a film perspective and even just kind of his the way he talks about his own injuries.
10:24It's a like kind of an up and down experience.
10:27Where are you at with neighbors rest of season?
10:30Well, I think we've seen the ramp, you know, week one, 71% route share week to 82%, 77% in week three.
10:35And then in week four, we jumped to 91%.
10:38And then last week, 97%. Now is after saying that his knee felt weird.
10:42I don't know what to expect when his knee doesn't feel weird.
10:45But I mean, we know this guy is a top six wide receiver from a talent perspective.
10:50Whenever he's healthy to me, he's looking healthy. And he's got a quarterback that's willing just to, you know, that's the beauty of Jameis.
10:56He will just keep peppering these two guys. Like, and he doesn't really care if it's tight window throws, those sort of things.
11:03He's having to be more careful because he doesn't want to turn it over and get benched.
11:07But I think also just with the rest of the targets that are, the rest of the players there to earn targets.
11:13Like there's just no one else that's really standing out.
11:16And they've basically eliminated Cam Scadaboo from the passing game.
11:19So it's just all rolling through these guys. But I move Malik Neighbors up to low-end wide receiver one rest of the way.
11:25Last week, I moved him to high-end wide receiver two.
11:28If he has another game like this where he's out there 92%, 90% plus of the routes, I mean, he's a mid-range
11:34wide receiver one the rest of the way for me.
11:37The big concern with him is like, will he re-injure the shoulder?
11:40Because it is something that, you know, you get the YOLO balls down the field and you're going to get a couple per game with Jameis.
11:47So if he lands on it wrong, the biggest risk I think you have with Neighbors is Winston getting benched or, you
11:53know, you have the games where he just gets knocked out early, right?
11:57And then he comes back and plays the next week.
12:00You're like, well, I got to play Malik Neighbors because he's awesome whenever he's, you know, not off the field.
12:05So I think those are the only two things.
12:08But to me, like, he may not be perfect right now, but man, he's got a 28% target share on the season.
12:14Last week, 36% target share. So, I mean, he's getting fed 23.2 and 29.1 fantasy points over the last two games.
12:20Yeah, I made the point to Josh and Hayden on our recap show that if you have Malik Neighbors on your fantasy
12:26team, the best advice I can give you is just mute Malik Neighbors on Twitter.
12:30You don't want to hear what he has to say about his own injury.
12:34You know, you just, you know, because listen, I respect it.
12:37Like, he's just being honest and telling us how he feels.
12:40And I think we're way too quick to assume like, oh, the guy is out there.
12:44Everything must be okay. That's definitely not the case with these athletes.
12:47So I actually respect that he talks about it that way.
12:50But that seems to be like the biggest stress is, oh, what's he going to be like this week?
12:56Well, he's going to be fine. He's going to be an absolute stud because he is an absolute stud.
13:01And he's just continuing to trend upwards here. So a couple of interesting matchups to point out for this Giants team the next couple of weeks.
13:08Week six, they get the Saints. That's a defense that you can definitely exploit.
13:12Week seven, they get the Texans before their week eight bye.
13:15And if you think about this Texans defense too, I know we're skipping ahead a week here.
13:20The Saints are a green light defense. Not worried about that.
13:23But it's week seven against the Texans. That's typically where we've seen targets funnel over the middle of the field.
13:28Now, getting Aziz Alshair back last week definitely helped the defense.
13:31Playing the Titans also helps the defense too. They don't have a mismatch weapon to necessarily do this with.
13:36But likely is essentially this team's slot receiver. We mentioned the route participation is 83%.
13:41Snap rate is 71% in the slot. Malik Nabors, 16.7%.
13:43So if one of those guys is going to go crazy against that defense in week seven, if Jameis can get the
13:49football off, it's another really good matchup here for likely coming up.
13:53Yeah. And I just think likely is kind of at that point where like Jameis probably doesn't really care about the matchup
13:59and likely is a very good athlete. So he's going to be able to get open multiple times a game, even in
14:05tough matchups, you know, because most linebackers and safeties are just going to struggle with them.
14:09There will be guys that can match up with him.
14:12And there's just not that many of them in the league.
14:15So yeah. And we did see the Texans take a little bit of a step forward this last week.
14:20You know, they've, they've had to play a lot of really good defenses.
14:24I mean, a lot of really good offenses to start the year.
14:27So their defense like versus the wide receivers and stuff, it doesn't look that great right now, but I have a feeling
14:33that that will come around as they stop playing like the jogger or not offenses like they had to, to start the season.
14:39And I do agree. So that, that makes likely, you know, a guy that could have even more work in that game.
14:45All right, let's get to my first data point this week.
14:49And I am asking, does the impending return of Caleb Williams fix bears past catchers issues?
14:53And if so, which ones? So I think the biggest difference between this year's bears offense and last year's bears offense is
14:59born out in the explosive play data. Bears are 19th in explosive play rate through five weeks.
15:04They were seventh in all of 2025. They're still 11th in explosive rushing rate.
15:08So obviously they're still getting big plays on the ground, not as much through the air.
15:12And that is, I mean, we all know why that is.
15:15They've played two noodle arm backup quarterbacks the last couple of weeks.
15:18This is, this is last three weeks. Excuse me.
15:21This is classic backup quarterback stuff here where the longer these guys plays, the longer these guys play, the worse it gets.
15:27Um, when you look at the average depth of completion on these bears past catchers through five weeks this season, it's Roma
15:33dunes, a way out ahead at 13.7 average depth of completion.
15:36Uh, the area arts on his completed targets. Then it's Cole commit 8.4.
15:39Everybody else is sub 6.8. Luther burden is 6.7.
15:42Khalif Raymond is 5.04 freaking Colson Loveland all the way down there at 4.38.
15:46So I'm just curious, Dwayne to you, do you think getting Caleb back kind of smooths out some of the ups and
15:52downs and honestly, a lot of downs for some of these bears past catchers?
15:56Like where are you at with these guys? Are they buys rest of season?
16:00Are you adjusting expectations preseason here? Cause I think this is a big talking point this week.
16:04Yeah. So I think the point about Caleb is we know that he can bring the big plays back.
16:09The challenge for Caleb though, is can he keep the offense on time and stay out of long down and distance and things that make you more predictable.
16:17Uh, we know that he can do things that only a few quarterbacks in the NFL can do.
16:22And he's going to make these amazing plays where you're like, how did he get out of that pressure running, you know,
16:28to the left and throw the ball, you know, to the middle of the field, like in a way that like really
16:34only he and Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, there's like just a handful of guys that can really do the things he does.
16:40But the challenge is like Ben Johnson wants to run the offense on time and really Caleb was struggling too, to start the year.
16:47So I do think that long-term getting Caleb back to your point, it's better than having Case Keenum or Tyson Bajent under center.
16:53And I think it will add upside to the offense.
16:56But I think the bears are also just very willing right now to just run the ball.
17:01Like you said, they're being very, they've been very explosive on the ground.
17:04If you look at the drop back rate over expected, it's very similar to pass rate over expectation guys.
17:09Like this is one of the most run heavy teams in the league.
17:13Now we'll see if Kalmanunga is ready, you know, to come back from the toe and the thumb injury.
17:18If it's just DeAndre Swift and Roshon Johnson, you might throw the ball a little bit more.
17:23But I think that the explosive plays are going to be there.
17:26My bigger concern is like, can they just really get the offense to gel?
17:30And, you know, can Caleb do the little things like, you know, on second and eight, when you got a five yard
17:36completion, just go ahead and take it. Like if that first read is not there, because a lot of times, you know,
17:42what Caleb will do is he's waiting to make the big play too often.
17:46And I think it does drive Ben Johnson a bit crazy.
17:49So it's a tough, like as far as rest of season, it's a tough route.
17:53I'm very interested in your thoughts. So like the guy playing the most right now is Romo Dunze, but he's basically stuck on the boundary.
18:00He's got the deepest average depth of route on the team.
18:03So he's, he's mostly working deep and he is getting some in breaking stuff, you know, further down the field.
18:09And Caleb is more likely to hit those right than some of the other guys.
18:13Um, but like with Luther Burden, as much as I like him, like he kind of is in the mold of the things Caleb doesn't want to do.
18:21And so I, I wonder if Luther Burden's actually been better with the dink and dunk guys.
18:25Um, but even with him, like we can't get to a full route participation, right?
18:29We're just, all of these guys are rotating and it's, it's kind of a pain because I mean, last week burden was a season high 79% route share.
18:37Like he's got the highest target share on the team, but then we have Colson Loveland.
18:41He's also rotating. Um, like he said, a 70% route participation rate.
18:45So they, they seem pretty content to like rotate all these guys except for Odundze, but he's in the least conducive role,
18:51uh, as far as like just what they're asking him to do on a, on a down and down out basis.
18:57That's what's so frustrating about it is you think, Oh, the guy is on the field is going to be the most
19:03useful and yet he, yeah, he has the highest, uh, average depth of route.
19:07He runs the most difficult routes too. So it just, it's tricky with these guys.
19:11Like, I don't think there's an easy answer. I think the easiest thing to say is that we just need more than
19:171.75 games of Caleb Williams to really come to a conclusion here, especially because to your point about like with Caleb Williams,
19:23not taking some of the layups, I thought he was really good about that in week one.
19:27Like he did not force things in, in week number one.
19:30He did take those layups to like Kalief Raymond over and over again, and just kept the offense on schedule and kept it moving.
19:37Now the Panthers don't have a good defense. That's obviously part of it, but you know, I think that's a, then, then
19:43the second week, then he's like kind of playing a little frenetic, but it's in the rain.
19:48It's Brian Flores. He's Brian Flores basically put everybody in a locker so far.
19:52So, you know, that just might be, it is what it is sort of with that sample is just like not, it's
19:58not conclusive enough, especially because in week one, Odundze and burden to some degree, I think we're playing limited roles.
20:03Certainly Odundze definitely. That's the clear outlier there in terms of his snap percentage.
20:07But yeah, I think the guy just that's trickiest is Luther burden because he has not really clicked on anything beyond like
20:13the gimmicky designer stuff at this point. And you would think that if he's going to take this big leap this year,
20:19he needs to start getting more looks in that intermediate area where I think he showed in his rookie season, he was
20:25capable of getting open in those areas, but he also hasn't really finished the plays.
20:29Like he actually has the most contested targets on this team, which I thought was surprising.
20:34And he's got about a 50% contested catch rate.
20:36Colson Loveland has fewer contested targets, but he's at a 50% rate.
20:40But Odundze is 75% off the top of my head contested target rate, but just his losses have come in these like
20:46really annoying, difficult areas like that are hard to get out of your head.
20:49Like obviously the touchdown against the Eagles. So it really is a tricky situation here.
20:54I don't think there's a clean cut spot. And the guy that obviously people are most frustrated with is for sure Colson
21:00Loveland, who went the earliest of the group. Yeah, for sure.
21:03The thing I'll say with burden, you know, and everything you said is true, but they're definitely trying to do the things for him.
21:09I mean, Ben Johnson dials up all of the easy buttons, guys.
21:13Like this is one of the best play action offenses in the league.
21:16They use a lot of motion. They use a lot of different, like multiple sets, you know, defenses have to prepare for
21:22a lot whenever they're getting to rate, whenever they're getting ready to play the bears.
21:26And so like, I think really any one of these guys could click.
21:30I do think Luther Burden is the one in the role.
21:33If he was able to get his routes up to like 85, 90 percent, where it could be the most conducive to fantasy production.
21:40Like his average depth of route is up this year.
21:42It's at an 8.7. So last year he did play a lot more of the gimmicky stuff.
21:47So they're trying to let him do it. But to your point, like he hasn't necessarily succeeded on those routes.
21:53It's like the things how he's still getting his fantasy production is coming on.
21:56You know, some of the same things that gave him his fantasy production last year.
22:01So if he could take a step, I do know that like they want they want Luther Burden to be successful, like
22:07because they have him and they have him doing the things that are the cheat codes.
22:11He's getting to do the things that Michael Wilson is doing in Arizona.
22:15A lot of these other guys like he gets the most protection from the opposing scheme.
22:19And then part of that is he's operating in the same area of the field as Loveland.
22:24And so I think that's actually been part of why they're keeping Loveland back to block and do some different things.
22:29They've had some offensive line issues, obviously. But if he doesn't get it going, like that really could open the door for
22:35Loveland because we did see Loveland really. He succeeded last year at the end of the season.
22:40But again, like it's really tough, man. I don't if I had to put a chip on one guy right now based
22:46on what we've what we've seen so far in the way they're running the scheme, it would be burden.
22:51But I'm not super confident. Like I have him as a wide receiver three right now.
22:56You had to draft him as a wide receiver two.
22:59Colson Loveland I have as a borderline tight end one.
23:01You had to draft him as a top three tight end.
23:04Romo Dunze I drafted as a wide receiver three.
23:07I've got him in wide receiver four to wide receiver five territory rest of the season.
23:11Yeah, it's difficult. And again, nobody projected a 16.7% target share for for Khalif Raymond.
23:15And that's the guy that like might need to completely might need to completely go away for Loveland and Luther Burden to really get going.
23:22And because they all run routes in the same area of the field.
23:26But I don't know he's fading away a little.
23:28He is fading. Over the last two weeks. But but we don't know, you know, that can be a blip.
23:34We don't know. Like he could just be right back to 70% routes next week.
23:38I would argue, too, that those touches for him in the first three weeks of the season were some of the best stuff that the offense was doing.
23:46And then these last two weeks, like not only is some of the opportunity fading, but then every time they do try
23:52to gimmicky designer, get him the ball. Those plays go absolutely nowhere.
23:55And again, is that because people are starting to squat on the offense with Tyson Bajan, who definitely I mean, there are
24:01some wide not just to a dunze who's obviously a great separator down the field.
24:05But there were some wide open plays to Luther Burden on these in cuts that Tyson Bajan just completely didn't see in week number five.
24:12So I'm I still want to be optimistic about these guys.
24:15But I think the absolute like heater range of outcomes here has probably come down for all of them simply because Raymond
24:21has been more involved than we probably projected. But I still want to kind of kind of like advise a tepid buy
24:27on all of these guys to really get going as the season goes on.
24:31I mean, this matchup this week against the Falcons is a pretty nice one for Caleb to come back to because they've
24:37had a lot of injury issues at the corner position.
24:40Yeah. And I think, you know, with the Bears, the way I keep it super simple is their holds, you're not going to be able to sell them.
24:48Right. So you're either holding or buying. Right. You can't sell them right now.
24:52But at the end of the day, like we still want to be part of a Ben Johnson offense.
24:57You know, there's a chance that we're still early in the season, man.
25:00And to your point, we've got, you know, one and a half games basically with Caleb.
25:05So this is something that can change really quickly.
25:07I think the most discouraging thing is the fact that they're all playing basically part time roles.
25:12That that that's the toughest part to get my head around.
25:15Like, I feel like the other stuff can probably iron itself out.
25:18That's like you said, if they want to keep running Kalief Raymond out there and, you know, they feel like they got
25:24to give him a 65 percent route share because they run so much heavy tight end stuff.
25:29That means that you're if he's going to play 60 percent, that means you're rotating, which it's burdened right now.
25:34Romo Dunze last week had 100 percent route participation rate.
25:37Yeah, I don't see him coming off the field either because he's a good blocker and like the only X receiver of the unit as well.
25:44So just a tricky one to figure out. But we definitely need more data with Caleb Williams.
25:49There's a chance we come out of that week 10 by that we were showing on the screen and they got matchups against the Saints and the Lions.
25:57And by that point, Twain, we're like, yep, it's all clear.
26:00Full green, full green light here. Let's go. The Lions do fix a lot of troubles on defense.
26:05I will say that there's no doubt about that.
26:07They play the Lions in week 17 if we're looking way ahead to fantasy football championship week.
26:12So that should be a pretty fun matchup there.
26:14OK, let's get to your second point. This is a wide receiver we're talking about here that we all know we can trust.
26:21What do we got here for point number two, Dwayne?
26:23Yeah, Mike Evans. Look, he's another guy that's not playing in a full time role right now.
26:28We still haven't seen an 80 percent route share from him, but that could just be due to they want to manage the workload.
26:35It could also be the guy still dealing with a rib injury.
26:38And I mean, he's just a complete warrior. So we haven't seen him healthy yet.
26:42And he was not healthy in the preseason. So he's still technically probably learning a new offense.
26:47This is very different than any offense that he's ever played in before.
26:50And I would argue it's the best scheme that he's ever played in as far as not just having to be on
26:57the outside, working more vertical down the field, dealing with multiple other wide receivers on the field.
27:01Like, he's getting a lot of cool stuff. And what's cool about Evans right now is when you go watch it, he's still getting his deep shots.
27:09But the way they're sequencing the plays to set those things up for him, like, it's just, it's very different than what we've seen historically for Evans.
27:16So I'm really excited about him. Even though he's 33 years old, I think as long as he's healthy, man, I do
27:22think that he's moving towards wide receiver one territory.
27:25I upgraded him to a mid-range wide receiver two this week, but another strong week and he'll be there.
27:30The route participation is a little concerning, but man, when he's out there, Harmon, like, he's getting targeted so much.
27:35He's a 31% target per route run. That's second in the NFL right now behind Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.
27:41He ranks third in yards per route run at 3.05.
27:43He's smashing against man, really destroying man. Targets come down a little bit against zone coverage, which is normal.
27:49That happens to a lot of receivers, but still has really good marks against zone as well.
27:53So, yeah, I'm really excited. The 26.3 fantasy points that we got last week, I think it's an example of when he's
27:59healthy, of like the kind of games that you can get, right, in this 49ers offense, which is one of the best
28:05offenses in the league, and Brock Purdy's playing out of his mind.
28:09Yes, he can't go the whole season without getting sacked.
28:11The Seahawks did prove that last week. But look, I mean, they put up a lot of points last week.
28:17Obviously, they had a fumble recovery for a touchdown and stuff like that, but the offense still looked really good, even though
28:23it was a rough start, right, against the Seahawks.
28:25So, I just, I feel really good about Mike Evans, even if he doesn't get over an 80% route share for the season.
28:32I think that Mike Evans is just really in a good place.
28:35You just have to avoid him having a season-ending injury, because this dude will play through nagging stuff, but you just got to avoid a season-ending injury.
28:43And you might have to stomach at some point, like three weeks, he might miss a game for a hamstring or something
28:49like that, which is, you know, you'd rather that than like the Lad McConkie.
28:52Is he going to go out there and, you know, whatever, right?
28:56You want to kind of avoid that situation. So, I mean, to your point, we spent all summer talking, Dwayne, speaking of
29:02Lad McConkie, like who's going to be the next Jackson Smith and Jigba, the guy that's getting all those targets per route, yards per route.
29:09It's been Mike Evans so far is the guy that was drafted outside of like the top two rounds.
29:14He's fourth in targets per route, as you mentioned, behind only Pukunakua, Zay Flowers, Jackson Smith, and Jigba.
29:19He is just behind Zay Flowers, JSN, Drake London in terms of yards per route run.
29:23Yeah, I mean, Unk still got it with Mike Evans.
29:26There's no doubt. And I love his route tree this year, Dwayne, because you can pretty cleanly map.
29:31You can pretty cleanly map like his most frustrating seasons, which to me in the recent kind of era of his games,
29:37his time in Tampa Bay and then this year in San Francisco, 2022 was a frustrating year.
29:42That was the final year of Tom Brady. He had a 28% go route rate in that season.
29:47And that was insane with Brady, who was getting rid of the ball so fast because he wanted to just not get hit.
29:53And it was his final year in the league and the whole deal.
29:57So 28% go routes. A lot of those are not even going to have a chance to develop by the time Brady
30:03is getting rid of that football at 2.3 or 2.2 seconds.
30:06That's the Marvin Harrison role. You know, I mean, he was playing the Marvin Harrison role.
30:10Correct. Yes, exactly right. He was playing the sacrificial X receiver role, except you're not sacrificial when you're Mike Evans.
30:16You're supposed to be the primary read. But in a lot of those, again, Brady's going to get that football.
30:21Anyway, so that was that year. Last year was the first time in the other few seasons with Baker Mayfield where he's got the 22% go route rate.
30:29And again, you felt some of that frustration where obviously some of it is the injuries.
30:33But even then it's like, where is Mike Evans?
30:36You know, the other players are getting the football, the whole deal.
30:39Then this year in San Francisco, it's down to 16.8%, which is the lowest on record for Mike Evans.
30:44Because as you mentioned, he's getting downfield looks. Some of it is like these deeper corner routes, out routes on sale concepts.
30:50And of course, the big in breakers in the Kyle Shanahan offense as well.
30:54So I really see no reason other than health why this just can't keep rolling for Mike Evans.
30:59Yeah, I mean, to your point, and that's kind of what I was trying to say earlier.
31:04You said it a lot better than me. And I've watched most of the film.
31:08I haven't watched this last game for Mike Evans.
31:10But what I was just noticing is like, yeah, I mean, he's just in the window and in the view of the
31:16quarterback like so much more often, you know? And maybe you can't throw it to him in the first window, but he's running across the field.
31:24So there's another window to still throw the ball into.
31:26And so, and the way they're sequencing the plays and setting things up, it's like the deep routes are more profitable now
31:32because the defenders don't know for sure what he's doing.
31:35Because he's not running a go route on 28% of the plays.
31:38You don't know if he's running a comeback, right?
31:41If he's going to be running, you know, the deep dig, or is he going to go ahead and hit you for
31:47the post or the corner route, like you said.
31:49So I just, I think this is a really good offense and it's very well designed.
31:54And it's great to get to see him playing in this.
31:57Matchups, you get the commanders this next week, a plus 4.3 point per game boost to wide receivers so far this season.
32:03That's just basically looking at defense adjusted for the opponents they played.
32:06Then you get the Falcons a little banged up.
32:09They're basically a neutral matchup. You have a bye week, but then you get the Raiders plus 3.7 points per game to wide receiver rooms.
32:16And then the Cowboys, I don't even say the number of the Cowboys.
32:19You guys just all know they suck. They can't cover anyone.
32:22So the schedule doesn't get any better. You know, I mean, so to me, like I called Mike Evans a bye high in the utilization report.
32:29Cause I'm like, dude, after he plays the commanders and the Raiders and the Cowboys, if he's healthy, like you won't be able to get him at all.
32:37So like, if you need some, if you need a receiver, like now I'm, I'm willing to buy high on a player
32:43like him coming off of a good game, because I still don't think people are going to value him the way that
32:49he could really look in the next three to four weeks.
32:52That's a really good shout by the way, on the comeback route.
32:56So just looking this up on the fly, he's run the, and it people, the comebacks are not like a super highly run route 4.7% for Mike Evans.
33:03That's the highest among any receiver that's run a hundred or more routes this year by a decent bit.
33:08JSN is number two. Mike is such a, he's so awesome.
33:12The fact that he is six, five, 230 pounds, 32, 33 years old, and he's such a great technician that he can
33:18be running these comeback routes effectively at his age is unbelievable.
33:21Dwayne. And when you put it, like he's just in the window of the quarterback, when Mike Evans is in the window,
33:27he's taking up the whole window because he has 98th percentile arm length.
33:30And he's going to have 98th percentile arm length, an arm length until the day he walks off the NFL field.
33:36So this really has been a perfect marriage, right?
33:39This is another one, depending on the calendar time that you listen to the podcast and when you're tuning into NFL content.
33:45When he signed with this team in March, it was like, oh, sky's the limit, baby.
33:49Mike Evans, the San Francisco 49ers, ex-receiver, Kyle Shanahan's offense, perfect, perfect fit.
33:53All these routes we're highlighting here. He's been running these routes at a high level for the last eight years of his NFL career.
33:59One of the best route runners in the league.
34:02And he's this physical freak. That's a guy that's going to age really well.
34:05And then August was such a S show in terms of the injury reports and all this stuff.
34:10It was hard to really get excited about it.
34:13Now we're kind of back to where we began, where it's like, this is simple.
34:17Mike Evans is a future hall of famer. He's an unbelievable player and he's Kyle Shanahan's ex-receiver.
34:22And as Wayne is sitting here saying, buy it high, man, because it's only going to go up from here as long
34:28as he doesn't go on the injury report. Yeah.
34:30Yeah. Yeah. You don't, you don't want to overpay strictly because he's older and you worry about the injuries.
34:36But when I say buy high, like if you look at his utilization score in the three healthy games, he's had, he
34:42left one game with a hip injury. The other game with the ribs injury.
34:45It's an 82. Historically, the comparisons, right for the, for that utilization score, 51% of them finished as wide receiver seven to 12.
34:52I don't really need to say any of the other data points.
34:55That's your median outcome. So I, when I say buy high, like I think you can buy Mike Evans right now as
35:01a high end wide receiver too, and still have room to profit.
35:04And I don't think you're probably even going to have to pay that price.
35:08I think you can buy him as a mid range wide receiver too, and someone will sell him to you at that price.
35:15In fact, I know that will, if you guys go, if you go look over, I don't know what, you know, trade
35:21tools you guys look, look at, you probably have some stuff, you know, here at Yahoo that you use.
35:26But I was looking this morning and there were quite a few.
35:29I was like, you know, people have not woken up to Mike Evans.
35:33I feel like some people are trying to sell because they're just like, okay, I got a big game and I'm worried
35:39about him getting hurt, which is fair to some extent.
35:42But yeah, I think that's what keeps the price lower.
35:44Yeah, everything that we're saying here, I'm 100% signing the check.
35:47I'm cashing it on Mike Evans. And yet I know that I might go into my bank account next week and it
35:53says, oh, you're out of money because Mike Evans got it.
35:56You know, that, yeah, that we might be overdrawing the account on the Mike Evans optimism because he could get hurt anytime.
36:03So totally fair there. Okay. I'm curious to see where you come down on this next player as a by Garrett Wilson.
36:09Is it finally happening for Garrett Wilson? Because he is on pace for the best season of his career through the first five weeks of the NFL season.
36:16Full season pace right now for Garrett Wilson. 105 catches, 1,271 yards and 10 touchdowns.
36:20I probably don't need to tell you guys. Those are all good.
36:24Those would all be the highest marks of his NFL career, obviously in a bad environment.
36:28Of course, he's currently crushing it on all the, you know, environment sensitive teammates surrounding sensitive per route stats.
36:33Despite playing 18% of his snaps in the slot, 2.35 yards per route run, 11.3% first downs per route run.
36:39Garrett is having a great start to his career.
36:41Dwayne, he's coming off an awesome game against the Cleveland Browns where it did not matter what they did to him.
36:47Man coverage zone. He was just open consistently. I love this guy.
36:50I think he is one of the 10 best.
36:53I mean, again, sitting down and doing rankings is tough, but I think he's clearly got top 10 receiver talent.
36:58He always has is the environment now to a point where we can buy in on him being that type of fantasy
37:04producer as he's averaging 14.5 PPR per game right now.
37:07Of course, we know that can always change. Where are we at with Garrett Wilson?
37:11Yeah, man. I mean, Garrett Wilson, we've talked about him before.
37:14Like when you and I have done shows together a few years ago, I think we were kind of both on the
37:20same page of like who could be that year's CeeDee Lamb.
37:23And I think we were both on Garrett Wilson.
37:26Ultimately, I think that was the year Aaron Rodgers went down right away to start the season.
37:31It was like, well, there went that. What I'll say is about a receiver like Garrett Wilson and what I've found like
37:37in the data, especially when they don't have a ton of other really strong targets.
37:41They have some young up and coming guys. You know, Adonai Mitchell will be back from injury.
37:45Omar Cooper Jr. is probably a week or two away from returning.
37:49Kenyon Sadiq, you know, he's been doing some nice things as well.
37:52But Garrett Wilson is still clearly the guy. And what I've found with guys like this, you know, that they just need a serviceable quarterback.
37:59They don't have to have the best quarterback. But you can't have a terrible one.
38:03But you need somebody that's at least middle of the pack.
38:06And I honestly think that Geno, I talked about this a lot in the preseason.
38:10Geno did not look last year like from a stat perspective, the way that he looked with Seattle.
38:15But he was still attempting to make all of those tight window throws.
38:19And they went against him last year with the Raiders, right?
38:22And he didn't have somebody to really get open, especially once they moved Jacoby Myers on from the team.
38:27And Brock Bowers was hurt. It's not like Geno had a lot to throw to.
38:31But when I was going back and watching it, I was like, he's still trying.
38:35If he tries to do those things with Garrett Wilson, he's going to be open enough.
38:40And he's going to be able to make those throws.
38:42So Geno is the kind of guy that like he really will lock onto you.
38:47And we've seen that. I mean, a 31% target share, like you mentioned, for the season right now with Garrett Wilson.
38:52I mean, we've got two games where he scored over 23 fantasy points, you know, in the first five.
38:58And then we've got another one at 16.7, 13.9.
39:00We only have one dud at 5.7. And it'll happen, guys.
39:03It happens to everybody. And that week he had a 29% target share.
39:07So things just didn't quite, you know, work out.
39:09That was week four. So, yeah, I'm very young on Garrett Wilson because I think that what he has with Geno Smith is enough.
39:16Do I think Geno Smith's an elite quarterback? No.
39:18But I don't think Garrett Wilson needs one. I just, and I asked Scott Turner about him.
39:23I asked Scott Turner on the Fantasy Football's live show a couple of weeks ago.
39:27And so I talked to him about, like, the best players he's ever coached at the end.
39:32And so, obviously, we talked about Bowers. You know, we talked about Josh Gordon because he coached Josh Gordon.
39:37And then we talked about Garrett Wilson. And he just talked about, like, Garrett Wilson, you know, his ability to really get open against anything.
39:44Doesn't matter. Man, zone, all the things we see.
39:46But, like, to hear a coach sit there and talk about it.
39:50He just says, you know, he's got, like, a super great attitude.
39:53Very positive guy. The teammates love him. And, like, I think Geno Smith loves him, too.
39:57I would. If I were Geno Smith, I would love Garrett Wilson.
40:01Yeah. Geno's had the benefit of playing with a lot of great players over the course of his career.
40:06Obviously, again, his JSN's prime didn't quite intersect with Geno, of course, as we know.
40:10But over the course of his career, I think this is the best separator that he's played with, Geno Smith and Garrett Wilson here.
40:1793rd percentile success rate versus man coverage last year.
40:19We know Scott Turner is co-signing to getting open here for Garrett Wilson.
40:23He's just a stud, man. He's so good. And I do feel like it is kind of finally happening here.
40:28We showed the graphic from one of our preseason shows where I said, I know I could get hurt again, but I
40:34think I'm willing to get hurt again. And I wish I'm willing to get hurt again with Garrett five weeks into the season.
40:41I wish I honestly had more Garrett Wilson teams.
40:43It just didn't quite work out that way. I have him on a few spots.
40:47I wish I had him in more because there were still reasons to be concerned about what this Jets ecosystem would look like.
40:54Right. Frank Reich. We do still have the any any benching risk.
40:57Right. Is still present with Geno Smith. Now, the Jets are two and three, which is great.
41:02They have some winnable games coming up. Like they have a matchup with the Dolphins in week seven.
41:06We just need Geno to hang on to this job for the entire season.
41:10I think because if we get like click Cade Clubnick or something and that that gets a little worrisome for Garrett Wilson towards the end of the season.
41:18They have a week 13. The problem. They're one of these late by teams.
41:22The challenge is we just have that that over that's hanging over a lot of wide receivers, you know, in tight end.
41:28We just talked about it earlier with likely bride and Michael Wilson have a hanging over them with Carson back.
41:33You know, it's Garrett Wilson has a hanging over him.
41:36So, I mean, there's a lot of guys that kind of fit, you know, into that bucket.
41:41I'm with you. I did not get as much Garrett Wilson as I wanted, you know, because there were so many good receivers going in that round.
41:48Like I wanted to have Ted McMillan on teams.
41:51I unfortunately wanted to have Jalen Waddle on some teams, which, you know, why play him?
41:55Whenever you trade a first round pick for him, let's just like let him play like a part time role.
42:01So Wilson is one guy, though, that I do wish like I had over Igbuka.
42:05I wish I had him over Jalen Waddle, obviously.
42:07But I was I liked a lot of those guys.
42:10So I honestly was just trying to mix a lot of them up.
42:14But I think where it hurts even more is like I'm looking at my dynasty rankings and this is probably the lowest
42:20I've ever had Garrett Wilson, who I've always had like way ahead of the market.
42:24And now because of some of those younger guys, I thought like, yeah, I thought like this would be the year to
42:30really get some of those guys like Waddle, who's about a year older.
42:33Buka, who's younger. Lad McConkie. We talked about some of them.
42:37I don't regret like Zay Flowers bumping him. Don't don't regret that.
42:40But, you know, I mean, right now, today, I I feel like Garrett Wilson belongs closer to 10 than he does to,
42:46you know, 15 or 19 or something like that.
42:48I feel like Garrett Wilson. This is a great time in dynasty even to buy and continue to see because like the
42:54Jets obviously could be looking very different next year.
42:57Rookie quarterback, the whole deal potentially. But I like your advice to almost just kind of live.
43:02I feel like this is at least what you're kind of hinting towards live in the moment with these quarterback situations and
43:08maybe don't get caught up in what could happen.
43:10At the end of the season. Yeah, I mean, look, when I write the utilization report, like I started working on the
43:16range of outcome stuff because I got so many questions around trades and I honestly didn't know how to answer them.
43:22And so what I've really come to like share with people is anyone can be a buy high.
43:27Anyone can be a sell high. Anyone can be a buy low.
43:30Like, I mean, really, especially like the sell high buy low stuff.
43:34It all comes down to like what you need and really how your league mates feel about it.
43:38You know, and a lot of times I'll talk about some someone or everybody like, oh, no way.
43:43Nobody's trading for him. And then I go look.
43:46I look up right away 50 trades that are crazy for that player.
43:49Right. We have tools now where we can see all this stuff.
43:53And then, you know, I'm sure you get it, too.
43:56You get the DMS, you know, the player of the trades that people have made.
44:00You're like, wow. Like because I even think it.
44:02I'm like, I would never get that deal done.
44:05Like it wouldn't happen for me. But it is happening for these other people.
44:08So if you have someone, if you're worried about the quarterback situation with Wilson, you can sell him.
44:13But just what I would say is like you don't want to overthink it too much.
44:18You don't want to sell him low. Like he's a guy that you should still be trying to sell high.
44:23If someone wants to pay like he's already like he's a wider low end wide receiver one, which is where he's at right now in fantasy.
44:31I mean, I might I might listen if I really liked what I can get in return.
44:35But anything below that, like no way I'm holding.
44:38This is where the utilization report and Dwayne's work is so valuable is it does give you those range of outcomes for the buys and sells.
44:45And speaking of that, we're going to take a quick break.
44:48And when we come back on the other side, Dwayne has a very interesting buy low, a guy that we may have
44:54just put in the coping corner on yesterday's episode.
44:56So I can't wait to get into that one.
44:59We'll get into that right after this. All right, we're back.
45:02I tease this on the other side. Very interesting.
45:04Third data point here from Dwayne McFarlane. Let's hear it, buddy.
45:07What do we got? Yeah, Jeremiah Love is a buy low.
45:10And I think it's really simple. It's very simple.
45:13He scored six and a half and two point two fantasy points over the last two weeks.
45:18Your local league manager is shook. They're shook. They hate this.
45:21And here's the thing I can tell you. He's going to score more points than that.
45:25I don't know how many more, but he's going to score more points than that.
45:29And that's what you're looking for. The other thing we have going on right now is like the market.
45:34Like everyone is dogpiling on Jeremiah Love. That gets into the psyche of your league managers.
45:39Everyone is hearing how terrible he is, how he looks worse than Clyde Edwards-Alaire and whatever these other 198 running backs since whenever.
45:45I'm sorry. Jeremiah Love is better than almost every freaking one of those running backs on that list.
45:50And I don't need to hear that. Like, I'm fine.
45:53I know that. I feel good about it. And here's the other thing that people are ignoring.
45:58Because of all this, and it's so fun to do this, people have missed the main point.
46:02And we have a very strong three-week trend. In the rushing department, 78% of the carries, right, three weeks ago.
46:08And what did everyone think? Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
46:11Oh, my God. It's happening. The breakout's here. Of the rushing attempts.
46:14And guess what? Last week, he gets 71%. But I'm going to go a step further than this.
46:19And I dig even further. So in week four, he tweaked his ankle in the second quarter.
46:24Before that, he had a 75% snap share. A 67% rush share.
46:27Higher than the breakout week that everyone got so excited about.
46:30Now, not as involved in the passing game. 29% route share.
46:33That's the ding on him. Last week, he's coming back, nursing the new ankle injury.
46:37They fall behind the Lions in a blowout. He only played 11% of the snaps.
46:41In the fourth quarter. Why? Why risk him whenever he's coming back from an injury and you're getting your wills blown off by the Lions?
46:48But in the first half, while the game was still, I don't want to say it was competitive, semi-competitive, 74% of the
46:54snaps, 90% of the rushing attempts, and a 42% route share.
46:57So unless you think that Jeremiah Love just absolutely sucks or he's not going to be able to get healthy, the Cardinals
47:03are already telling you they're trying to hand him the running back one job actively right now.
47:08They're giving it to him. It's happening. And it's one of those perfect moments where it coincides with he's done nothing.
47:14He's had two terrible weeks. These moments rarely come.
47:16They rarely come your way in fantasy. So I'm buying Jeremiah Love absolutely everywhere that I can.
47:21I'm not trading him away. I am holding him.
47:23I will be starting him this weekend. And it's not a great matchup this weekend, guys.
47:28We've got a little bit of a tough schedule.
47:30But after that, it does get a little bit better.
47:33So it's just straightforward for me, man. It's just people are panicking.
47:36And everybody's piling on. So I want to be in on it.
47:40And there's a good trend around it. I'm really glad you're presenting this counterpoint view because yesterday, Boone and I on the
47:46People's Panic Meter show, again, we did put him in the coping corner, which is like you just need to accept this is what you are.
47:53You do have to cope. I don't disagree with that.
47:56I'm coping as well. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we'll see this.
47:58You're coping trying to get yourself into a positive light, at least from a decent rest of season range of outcomes here,
48:04which I want to come back to that, like where we actually think you could be rest of season and theorize that.
48:11But you're not making unfound points here. Like a lot of this stuff makes sense in what they're trying to do.
48:16My worry is just with these like nagging injuries, do they really have an incentive to push him in the whole deal?
48:22And obviously, like he can just get scripted out of games because they're not really putting him in these past first situations,
48:28I think, to maybe keep the tread on his tires and the whole deal.
48:32I don't know. We're having to do a little bit of like psychoanalysis, especially with his longest year of my life quotes and whatever.
48:39I don't think that really matters all that much.
48:41That's mostly he had to train for the combine right after NFL season, the whole deal.
48:46Like it is a long season for every single rookie.
48:49That's why we have the rookie wall that guys hit occasionally.
48:52But again, I think you're making some good points here in that, like, if you want to buy, this is the moment.
48:58Like the iron is hottest right now to strike and do that.
49:01Yeah. I mean, and I'm looking right now on fantasycalc.com.
49:04He went today just a few minutes ago, straight up for Cam Scadaboo.
49:07I will take Jeremiah Love, period. He's a better prospect.
49:10He's a better player. Cam Scadaboo looks pretty washed right now due to his own injury.
49:14And I just think Jeremiah Love is a much better player.
49:17So I'm just looking at the one for ones here.
49:20There's one for Coker. I think that's tougher. But here's one.
49:23Keaton Mitchell. Like you guys say these things don't happen, but they're like all over my screen.
49:28This is like how low people are. He straight up went for Denzel Boston.
49:32I would take Jeremiah Love straight up for Saquon Barkley.
49:34I'm probably sticking with Barkley in that deal. Kind of similar situation, right?
49:38You got two really good running backs that are injured, but we've seen it longer from Barkley.
49:43And I mean, I'm still on the trades that have happened today.
49:46Straight up for Lad McConkie. So I mean, if you need a running back, right?
49:50And you're feeling good about your receivers and you're willing to move Lad, like I would make that deal.
49:55I could see that deal going the other way too.
49:58I could see Lad eventually being a guy that you would like to get in that trade.
50:03I actually like both of those guys. But the point being is you didn't, a lot of these trades you didn't know that you could make.
50:10And now you can make them. And so I would actively be trying to get Jeremiah Love.
50:15As far as his range of outcomes for the rest of the season right now, I have him as a low end running back too.
50:22So it's like a very sober take on him.
50:24But the thing is, like some of these prices we're getting is, you know, Lad McConkie right now, I've got as a mid-range wide receiver three.
50:31And you're getting a low end running back too if you make the deal.
50:35That to me is still going to be a deal where you're at worst like you're breaking even probably.
50:40For the course of the season. I mean, Lad is obviously a good enough player if the Chargers have so many systemic problems as well.
50:47Like it's hard to imagine how it all fixes itself.
50:50And so I just, again, it just comes back to the market sentiment.
50:54We want to capture that. And again, these things line up so rarely.
50:57And that's why I'm so adamant about it. I think that is really fair.
51:01And a lot of those, again, like getting into actionable advice here.
51:04I think a lot of those trades really help paint where we're at here.
51:08Because, yes, I do think we're moving the goalpost in the coping corner in terms of him being this like massive breakout
51:14running back one for fantasy as a rookie. I think that's probably not going to happen this year.
51:19But I would definitely rather have, if we're doing one-for-one trades, like Cam Scadabu is another guy we put in the coping corner.
51:25Like it's not happening for Cam Scadabu the way people wanted this year for sure.
51:30So I'd rather have Jeremiah Love. But I think the receiver ones, because typically I think the best way to do fantasy
51:36trades is when you're doing same position, you're basically trying.
51:38Let's be honest. You're trying to get one over on the other person, which is really not the best way to do it.
51:45You kind of should try to make their team better and make your team theoretically better.
51:49So for those receiver ones, like Jalen Coker. I love Jalen Coker.
51:52I'm a huge Coker guy. Of course. We know that.
51:55Let's say you've got Christian Watson and Mike Evans or whatever.
51:58Like you don't need Jalen Coker. Why not take a shot at trying to make your running back room better, even if
52:04you're parting with a guy who's a really good player on the inverse.
52:08Maybe you're a team that drafted JSN, Zay Flowers and JSN and Christian Watson and Lad McConkie.
52:13But you also got Jalen. Yeah, you don't need like you can ship off Lad and maybe you guys do that sort of trade.
52:19So I think that makes a lot of sense there.
52:22From that perspective and brings like a good actionable take to the Jeremiah Love situation.
52:26Yeah, I still have a ceiling as a low end running back one.
52:30Right. And that's like 17 to 20 percent of the time.
52:33So, again, it's we're not saying it's guaranteed to happen, but he's a good enough player if he gets healthy.
52:38And the other thing is the Cardinals, they do want to sell tickets.
52:42Like these owners are also a part of the factor.
52:44And there's not a lot to really be that excited about in Arizona.
52:48I mean, like the team's already one and four.
52:51So, yeah. Could they shut him down later in the year?
52:54Yeah. But a lot of times we see these rookie running backs get a larger workload as the season goes.
52:59So there's we can't pretend that we know we could actually see Jeremiah Love with an 80 percent snap share in the fantasy playoffs.
53:06That could also happen. We don't know for sure.
53:08I was so with you on everything you were saying there until you tried to apply logic to the Cardinals ownership, which
53:14is when we get into pretty dicey territory here.
53:17I won't even debate that back. Yeah. I don't think there is any debating that.
53:21Speaking of getting into dicey territory, my third data point here is wondering if we saw some signs of life from the Packers run game.
53:28We could be pretty quick on this one because I was kind of just trying to shoehorn this in, honestly, because I'm curious about your take on this.
53:35Because 27.3 percent of the Packers running back carries went for a first down or a touchdown in week five.
53:41That was the best rate of the season. Again, that was just rushing work alone.
53:45I thought while watching this game, both live on Sunday and then reviewing it on film, I think the offensive line changes.
53:51I'm not going to say if this has fixed everything, but just getting in the veteran band-aids, I think we have stopped
53:57the bleeding on the Packers offensive line. If this Packers offensive line can just be a below average, if even well below
54:03average, but not stone worse than the NFL, I definitely think the passing game is going to the moon.
54:08Jordan Love and an extremely concentrated duo of Matthew Golden and Christian Watson.
54:12Yes, those guys are going to be some of the best picks that you could have made this year.
54:17Do we ever get anything out of the backfield here?
54:20Dwayne Marshawn Lloyd was the guy early on in the game.
54:23Uh, Caleb Johnson came in for some cleanup duty on overtime.
54:26I've been pretty much like it's over for this Packers running back room.
54:30It's not going to happen for them. But again, just getting some offensive line fixes in here.
54:34Again, I feel like we've stopped the bleeding. Where are you at with this Packers offense and specifically the run game here?
54:40Yeah. So on running back carries, they're up to one yard before contact.
54:44It was like 0.7. So this game progress brought them quite a, brought them quite a ways up.
54:49And I only look at it for running backs because you know how it is.
54:53Like scrambles and stuff is counted as runs, which, you know, that, that's not like the defense is not playing the run on that.
55:00So, um, I do think it's improvement. I still think it's a, it's tricky because we didn't have Chris Brooks in the
55:06game and that we did have Pierre strong jr, but Chris Brooks was kind of getting more of the role early in the week before.
55:13But I will say this, like you at least have the, the chance that it's a hot hand approach.
55:18Right. And right now Marshawn Lloyd after last game does have the hot hand.
55:22Like he had two or three really good runs and I'm not talking about just trying to be super flashy, but just
55:28know honestly being less flashy, like just lowering the shoulder pad, trying to get lower than the other dude.
55:33And I think that's been part of their frustration with Marshawn Lloyd is they know he has some elusiveness and those sorts
55:39of things, you know, but like, stop trying to hurdle the guy, you know, like, let's just put the shoulder down, get
55:45the extra two to three yards, get the first down.
55:48And I think that that is something that could like coaches like that stuff.
55:52Like let's, I mean, when you talk to coaches, like that's the kind of thing that they really like.
55:57So I do think that's a positive for Lloyd and I do think there's an opportunity.
56:01It's like you said, it's like just one data point.
56:04So it's hard to say for sure. And the Packers still, they've got a lot of injuries.
56:09They've got a lot of issues going on with the offensive line.
56:12So I'd like to see another couple of data points, but I'm with you.
56:16Now I'm at the point where I'm like, Hey, it's possible.
56:19It's in the range of outcomes. Last week I was like, this just probably isn't even in the range of outcomes.
56:25Like we're just too worried about how bad this offensive line is.
56:28But the thing I got the most excited about is the other part that you talked about, which was you finally, they've
56:34protected Jordan Love really better the last two games, still giving up a high pressure rate.
56:39But the designs around this offense this year were, we saw what they could look like last week.
56:43You gave Jordan Love time to push the ball down the field.
56:47That's what they want to do. Now they've changed Christian Watson's role completely.
56:50Like, you know, his average depth of route is way down from where it's been historically.
56:55He's in motion. He's lining up all over the field.
56:58He's, you know, it's funny because people will be like, Oh yeah, Watson, he's going to bust because, you know, he's just a deep threat.
57:04No, that guys. Yes. He still has a deep average depth of target.
57:08That's where his, a lot of his targets have still happened.
57:11But like, if you look at his route tree and you can speak to this Harmon, like he is doing so many other things.
57:18He has chances. It's kind of like the stuff back with Evans, getting more of the in-breaking stuff.
57:23They'll get him in motion to protect him from coverage.
57:25They just try to get the ball in his hands, let him work after the catch.
57:30And then Matthew Golden. Oh my God. Like talk about a turnaround from year one.
57:34This dude is actually having to play on the outside against the best cover corners and he's beating them.
57:39And man, his hands so late and so quick.
57:42That's all I can say. When you watch him, like how late he brings his hands around, like the DBs have no
57:48clue it's there and then he snatches it like a magician and he quickly gets it.
57:52He gets it tucked away so quick. And these are balls that are out of position that he's doing this with.
57:58Like Matthew Golden's hands look amazing this year. Matthew Golden's hands looked like they looked in college.
58:02Like this was the part of his collegiate profile that was kind of his superpower there.
58:07Like he had some weird drops and he's had some weird drops this year too.
58:11That's just part of it. But if you can make big time catches, nobody cares if you drop the football.
58:17Like it just doesn't matter because the guy is going to keep going back to you here.
58:21So Golden has that in his range of outcomes.
58:24And again, it's just it's the concentration here between these guys.
58:27There are three teams with that have three guys.
58:29I assume there are three teams that have two players taking up over 70% of the air yards.
58:34Number one is the Falcons, which is let's be honest.
58:37Most of that is Drake London. Almost 80% is going to two guys and pretty much it's just Drake London.
58:42Number two is the Cowboys 71%. And then number three is the Packers at 70.6%.
58:47So this is basically discount CD lamb and George Pickens.
58:49If we really want to put it that way, like it is a one and two.
58:54There's not really a three involved here. Uh, Jaden Reed getting hurt takes that off the board.
58:58Like Tucker craft is involved for sure, but he's not getting those downfield looks.
59:02Cause that's not really ever been Tucker crafts bag.
59:05You know, he's a guy that wins in the short area and rumbles after the catch.
59:09And I think you can do more and more and more as he gets healthier.
59:13But right now this is going to Matthew golden and Christian Watson.
59:17It will continue to do that. And I think if the run game can just be functional, that increases the potency of the offense overall.
59:23And I think it's a great point by you, like on a Marshall Lloyd's touchdown run, he demonstrated a lot of patience.
59:29Power. Those were not things that I would be saying about Marshall Lloyd from early in the season.
59:34So if he can just be that guy and keep the train on the tracks, I think we're in a pretty good spot with all of these players.
59:42We got great shout on Matthew golden's late hands.
59:45That was a big part of his prospect profile.
59:47And it's really showed up this year after they kind of had him play a bunch of weirdo different roles.
59:53Um, I hate to say it. I, I, I like Matt LaFleur as a coach, but, um, we were right about the receiver rotation.
59:59Nonsense. Like get these guys in clear defined roles and let them be on the field all the time.
60:04That's better than kind of the cycling in and out here.
60:07So, uh, we win the war over Matt LaFleur on that one.
60:11Okay. Let's get to your next data point. We're sticking at the running back position for this one.
60:16Yeah. So it's Ramond Ray Stevenson. And it's as long as we don't have Trevion Henderson, who's got a high ankle sprain.
60:22We don't know for sure how he's going to, how long he's going to be out, but it sounds like at least
60:28a couple of weeks, but you know how that goes.
60:31Harmon that can turn into being four weeks. And if you look at Ramond Ray Stevenson week one, I know the memes
60:37and the jokes, they were all fun. It was like 14, the most like painful 14 and a half fantasy points you've
60:43ever seen in that Island game to start the season.
60:45I mean, the guy had an 85% snap share and you know, I'm doing my utilization thing.
60:50And like just the sub comments, you know, to your tweet are just like, yeah, well he sucks.
60:55You know, uh, but Ramond Ray Stevenson, you know, to be fair, he did not look good that night.
61:00Now he didn't have a lot of help like the, and the Patriots offensive line, it still has issues.
61:06Like they've got a lot of injuries and things like that, but we've got an offense that looks very different over the last couple of games.
61:13Drake may has really, if you go watch him play, the overthrows are gone and he's now connecting right on those plays.
61:19And Drake may like doing this without having AJ Brown.
61:22And we, and we saw it last year, they never put Stefan Diggs in a full-time role and this guy was going nuts.
61:28And I know a lot of people thought, well, it's the schedule and all those things, but this is a very different
61:34offense than what we saw in week one with Ramond Ray Stevenson.
61:37And so I thought what was really interesting is last week with Stevenson coming back, he was dealing with his own ankle injury.
61:44And it happened at the very end of the week before.
61:47So a lot of people had missed it, but I think it was Jeff Mueller that found it.
61:52Great follow on Twitter at PT Jeff Mueller, I think is the handle, but you guys will find him.
61:57You should be following him on injury stuff. But in this game, if you look at it, Kiner, Corey Kiner played 60%
62:03of the snaps and had 67% of the attempts in the fourth quarter because it was a blowout.
62:08Before that, Ramond Ray had 86% of the snaps.
62:10This is after Trevion left the game. It's 86% of the snaps, 75% of the rushing attempts, and he's 60% route share.
62:16That's like just elite stuff, guys. And in an offense, it's a lot better.
62:20Like you're going to like what you're getting out of Ramond Ray Stevenson.
62:24I think as long as Trevion's out and this iteration of what the Patriots offense looks like, he's a running back one,
62:30a borderline running back one at worst. And the schedule's really good.
62:33You get the Jets, a 2.4 fantasy point per game boost to opposing running back rooms.
62:38Then you get the Bears plus 1.2. Then you get the Dolphins plus 4.7.
62:41And then you get the Packers plus 3.4. So four weeks in a row of great matchups.
62:46And so I think he's going to get at least two of these, but he might get three or four.
62:52So Ramond Ray is going to be a guy that a lot of you are getting to plug into your running back two.
62:58And you're going to feel really good about it.
63:00I think it could be pretty similar. Not quite because I think Chuba Hubbard's playing better than Ramond Ray Stevenson right now.
63:06But it could be in that range. And right now, guys, when Chuba Hubbard's playing, he's a low-end running back one.
63:12So I think you could have a similar situation here.
63:15This is why you draft these guys where it's two running backs.
63:18It's probably going to be pretty close because if one of those guys gets hurt, the other player is going to take
63:24off here, which I think is going to happen.
63:27Same in Pittsburgh with Jalen Warren. Exactly. And I don't think Jalen, hopefully, fingers crossed, we got some good, we were joking
63:33about this at the top with Jeremy Bernard, but we got some pretty good Aaron Rodgers speak on Jalen Warren.
63:38We need that to hold because, my God, he should not be giving that job back.
63:43Yes, McCarthy said it as well. After the week before, being like, well, to go back to a 50-50 split when Rico Dowdle gets back.
63:50And then Jalen Warren tearing it up in week five.
63:52McCarthy goes, well, yeah, that's our future player right now.
63:55Well, it kind of looks like a poor man's Jameer Gibbs out there.
63:59Or maybe I'll leave him out there. And hey, for the record, guys, the nerds were also right on Jalen Warren.
64:05The nerds for years have been saying, someone give this man a full-time role and see what happens.
64:10And now we're seeing. Oh, yeah. I said it on our recap show this week that I remember doing segments with Austin
64:16Eckler being like, this is the next Austin Eckler.
64:18Some team will give him a shot. Eckler liked that take because, I mean, not just because he was an undrafted guy
64:24with the number 30 in the whole deal. Some of the producers were showing me some of the clips from that show
64:30when we were talking about it, which I'm just going to say.
64:33That was like three years ago. I look so much better face-wise now.
64:37I got a much better look than I was.
64:40Somebody should have said something to me back then about how I looked on that show.
64:44Anyways, that's one thing. Number two, though. The advice was right.
64:47Yeah. Jalen Warren, these guys, they can get it going here.
64:50I think we're going to see that with Armando Stevenson here in the next couple of weeks.
64:55Moving on to my next data point, my fourth one for the week.
64:58The Bucs offense, man. What an outrageous team this has been and one of the most frustrating teams in the NFL.
65:04They play with a ton of three receiver sets.
65:07We know that third highest rate of three-plus receiver sets in the NFL.
65:10They're the only team in the NFL, Dwayne, with six players to have a 10% or higher target share this year.
65:16This is a Scott Pianowski classic. They throw to the whole phone book here.
65:20Emeka Abuka's got a 22.6%. K-Dot, an 18.5%. I don't know how that's true, but he does have an 18.5% target share.
65:2614% for Chris Godwin, 12.3% for Bucky Irving, 11% for Ted Hurst, 11% for Kenny Gainwell.
65:30And then the crazy part of this, too, Tess Johnson has a 6.8% target share.
65:34Obviously, he doesn't count on that six group of players there.
65:37But he's number three on the team in air yard share because he gets these big, chunky, deep shots, which against the
65:43Cowboys and Deron Bland, he falls over when Tess Johnson runs the corner route.
65:47But those things do add decent, like a bit of production to the offense.
65:51But it's just gone from I thought this offense really had a chance to be an excellent fantasy value offense where these
65:57guys were going to go at depressed prices. Even Abuka going in the fourth round, I thought he was a great pick there.
66:04I've been so wrong on that so far, and I don't know how much of it has to do with Abuka the
66:10player or just this offensive environment and the quarterback chaos and the whole deal.
66:13It's just been a really disappointing offense from a fantasy standpoint outside of Bucky Irving having some excellent games.
66:19And I hope they continue to give him the football.
66:21But passing game-wise, this has been so spread out, Dwayne.
66:24And I don't know if I see that changing here.
66:27Yeah, so I mean, I think there is a little bit of a positive.
66:31Like last week, you did get a 39% target share to Emeka Ibuka.
66:34So I thought that was a big positive. He scored 17.2 fantasy points.
66:38Part of that you can dismiss because you can say he was playing the Cowboys.
66:42Like, you know, Matt, you scored 12 fantasy points against the Cowboys.
66:45Yeah, he did catch the long third down play, which I have no clue how that happened.
66:50You know, the Cowboys also did that with Zay Flowers.
66:53Two totally different coverages. Neither one of them worked, you know, late in the game.
66:57But with Ibuka, like also coming off of the toe injury, right?
67:00He had the turf toe in the preseason. We know that can be a problematic thing.
67:05So I think the positive is none of the other guys, while it is spread out right now, it's not like anyone else has made their mark.
67:12So it's still really open. And I know we want receivers and stuff that have more tight ends and stuff on the field.
67:18But honestly, some of these other receivers, like Ted Hurst and stuff, he's really more of like the deep threat.
67:24So he's going to have a target share similar to some of the bad tight ends.
67:28You know, whenever we talk about playing in like 12 and 13 personnel.
67:32So I think this might actually be an opportunity to buy on Ibuka.
67:35There's a chance. Baker, I know, is pushing to play this week.
67:39I kind of hope they hold him out one more game, though, and just make sure that thumb is right.
67:44Because if he re-unjures it, as good as, you know, Jalen Daniels looked, right, on Sunday, I think, against better defenses, that
67:50I think we all would trust Baker, right? To just read a defense better and have a chance to lift the offense.
67:56Godwin's the one I had to unhitch from, you know?
67:59Because Godwin, I was just, you know, two years ago, looked so good.
68:03Like 19 fantasy points per game to start that year.
68:05He was under Liam Cohen. And he's playing a nice role this year.
68:09And honestly, what's interesting, I don't know what you've seen on film with him, but like with the ball in his hands, he's kind of looked spry.
68:16Like I'm kind of like, okay, like physical, like getting some yards after the catch, had an 87-yard touchdown callback due to a holding penalty, I think.
68:24So like there's this part of it that's there, but he's not getting any targets.
68:28He's like at a 14% target share on the season.
68:31And with an older player, once you get to this point, it's kind of like I'm probably out.
68:36I've moved Godwin way down the ranks. I moved all these guys down.
68:39But I do wonder if Iqbuka, if it's been more the toe and like we're going to see him start rounding into
68:45form here because there's not anyone else truly standing in his way that's like, okay, like he just can't overcome these other players.
68:52To me, if his target share doesn't improve and it's being spread around to these other guys and he is healthy, then
68:58he's just definitely not who we saw to start last season.
69:01Like we would just have to call it that.
69:03And maybe that's the answer, but I do think there's a chance it's the toe.
69:07It might be because, I mean, this is when he has this monster start to his rookie season.
69:12You start to think, oh man, he's going to really outkick his draft profile.
69:16But now that we've seen a lot of evidence, it's like, well, his draft profile was a guy that at least to
69:22me, you can tell me, I know you do the rookie supermodel.
69:26If you felt differently about this. I thought he was an awesome prospect, well worth a first round pick right where he
69:32went 19th overall, totally fine with me, but he's still kind of profiled as probably like a really, really good high end
69:38number two receiver, which maybe that's what he tops out to be.
69:41And, you know, they can get a great wide receiver to kind of compliment him.
69:45That's more of like a true boundary presence. That's possible.
69:48But I also think on tape, he looks good.
69:50You know, like he's a guy that is getting open to me.
69:54He hasn't quite finished some of these plays, but maybe that's one of those situations.
69:58I talk about this all the time when guys are playing or coming back from an injury.
70:02Sometimes they're just entire bodies not totally worked out just yet.
70:06So they can make some weird mistakes at the catch point if they're running differently because of the toe.
70:11Again, I know that's like guesswork. I don't I don't totally know the answer to that.
70:15But I don't know. We don't know. That's possible that that is one of the answers here.
70:20The other thing to consider just with this entire offense is it's a great point.
70:24Like maybe Baker comes back. It consolidates a little bit because I agree.
70:28Godwin, one of my favorite players in this era, just just doesn't look the same.
70:32Just doesn't look the same at all. And like didn't look the same last year.
70:36That is what it is. The upcoming schedule after they play the Steelers this week, Panthers, Falcons, Bears by Lions, Panthers through week 12.
70:42There's definitely some good matchups there for a wide receiver if he can really get going.
70:47So I'm interested to see what this offense can look like, but definitely need to cut out some of the 11% target share to running backs to run.
70:55And, you know, some of that stuff does kind of need to go away and maybe less K-Dot targets 18.
71:00My gut is the stuff to the backstay, but you can consolidate some of the stuff away from the receivers.
71:06And like, look, we've seen K-Dot long enough. Like we know that when everyone else is hurt, which is kind of how
71:12this offense looks right now, is like they don't really have a receiver.
71:15We've seen him do this. But if someone else is capable of stepping up like and earning more, we've also seen K-Dot very quickly disappear.
71:22So I think that's your path is probably through that.
71:25But I do think they like the backs out of the backfield because they're really good as receivers.
71:30You know, Bucky is, Kenneth Gainwell, or Kenny Gainwell.
71:32Sorry, Kenny. That's the way they, you know, that's his calling card, right?
71:36Is to really be used like in the two-minute offense, that sort of thing.
71:40But it'll be interesting. I would say like if I'm buying any of these, it's like Buka.
71:44I'm not really messing with any of the others as far as the receivers go.
71:49Makes sense to me. Okay, let's get to your fifth and final data point here heading into week six.
71:54Because I think this one is probably going to be your most controversial.
71:57Let's hear it. Yeah, so this is the opposite of Jeremiah Love.
72:01But I want to sell high on Denzel Boston.
72:03Denzel Boston is not a guy that the rookie supermodel love.
72:06But I will say he has looked really good.
72:09So if you're a Browns fan, this is not me trying to trash Denzel Boston.
72:13It looks like for what they wanted to draft, which was a perimeter receiver that can, you know, get downfield.
72:18He's doing that. But here's the big challenge, right?
72:21We've got an offense averaging 202 passing yards per game.
72:23That's 21st in the NFL. 1.4 passing touchdowns per game.
72:2620th. And you could argue that's kind of surprising.
72:29Yeah, it is. Because we're doing this with Deshaun Watson right now.
72:32So Deshaun Watson, honestly, with those numbers is kind of, you know, to use a term you used earlier, is like outkicking his coverage.
72:39But right now, Denzel Boston averaging 13.8 fantasy points per game.
72:42He's the wide receiver 17. He will not. He will not finish as the wide receiver 17 this year.
72:47He will not finish as a top 24 wide receiver this year.
72:50And I'll tell you why. Targets per game, 5.6.
72:53That's 37th, guys. Catchable targets per game, 3.6. That ranks 51st.
72:56I could stop there, but I won't. I'll keep going.
72:58Air yards are actually, air yards are his positive, right?
73:0198 per game. That's 12th in the NFL. But catchable air yards, 55.2 per game.
73:05That's 21st. So we've seen this story before. This is a deep threat, right?
73:09That is, the high variance is going in his direction right now.
73:12They're connecting on these plays. But if you really start to dig deeper, like, can it sustain?
73:17Probably not. And we also live in an era where eventually defenses will decide.
73:21They don't want to give that to Denzel Boston anymore.
73:24Defenses are doing that across the league. Why would they not do it with Denzel Boston?
73:28So if you look at his utilization score, it's a 67.
73:31And they have historically averaged, you know, still 12 fantasy points per game, 12.5 fantasy points per game, which is not bad.
73:37But 46% of them finished as wide receiver 25 to 36.
73:40So this is what I'm saying. He's not going to be a mid-range wide receiver 2 like he is right now.
73:46So I would rather profit and trade. And here's the thing.
73:4936% of his comps have finished wide receiver 37 to 48.
73:52So that's outside wide receiver 3 territory. So I think those are his most realistic, like, two outcomes.
73:57And I honestly lean towards he's probably a wide receiver 4 by the time the season's over.
74:02And again, it does not mean that I do not like Denzel Boston.
74:05Like, I think he's done a lot of really nice things.
74:08But it's not a great environment. They're designing all this stuff for Concepcion.
74:12Harold Fanning gets to run free underneath the covers.
74:14Like, these guys are just so much easier, you know, to target.
74:18And the targets haven't been great. They've been okay for Denzel Boston from a percentage standpoint.
74:22But they don't run a lot of plays. And they don't score a lot of points.
74:27And so just when you add it all up, he's not going to finish the mid-range wide receiver 2, which is where he's at right now.
74:34And all this stuff, too. Obviously, Deshaun Watson has been better, I think, than almost, I mean, pretty much anybody could have possibly imagined this year.
74:41And yet, in my offensive efficiency score, they're still 30th, like, in terms of offense.
74:45Now, their run game has really dragged them down.
74:47And I think Quinchon Judkins, much like Cam Skadaboo, probably came back too early from a serious injury.
74:52And now he's in a walking boot again. I think their run game is just probably going to stink all year.
74:58The offensive line has been tough as well. But still, they are 31st in time of possession per drive.
75:03They don't possess the ball a lot. And they don't score a lot of points, to your point here.
75:09Now, this one's tough for me because I think Denzel Boston looks awesome.
75:12He looks good. He looks great. I don't disagree with that.
75:15I do not disagree with that. But this is just hard for me for a guy that, like, I did like him a lot as a prospect.
75:23I called him Diet Coke Mike Evans. And he's kind of looked like Diet Coke Mike Evans so far in the NFL.
75:29So this is really tough from that standpoint. You were the guy that was a Bud Light Cooper Cup on Amon Ross St.
75:35Brown. So, you know, hey, I listened to you.
75:38I was Bud Light Golden Tate on Parker Washington.
75:40And now I feel like all three of these guys might just be the full ABV version of the Bud Light comp.
75:46But we'll see about Denzel Boston. Mike Evans. Obviously, Mike Evans is a future Hall of Famer.
75:51Nevertheless, there's still a lot of reasons to be concerned about the environment for Denzel Boston.
75:55The way he is scoring his points, there's no question.
75:58It's like these deep stop routes. He's shown an ability to kind of get some quick slants.
76:03I mean, I just thought the film was fantastic.
76:05I actually just this is timely because I just charted this stuff this week or literally today for Denzel Boston.
76:11He was so, so good on tape. It's tough to divorce myself from that.
76:14That being said, there are a couple of ways I think things could improve from utilization standpoint for Boston.
76:20Number one, do we get Jerry Judy traded? I know Judy's not doing much, but even if we get his 10% target
76:26share out of here, that could certainly help things for Denzel Boston standpoint.
76:29I don't think that would go to Isaiah Bond, who to me is just not really a needle moving player.
76:35I think that could bring some looks to Denzel Boston.
76:38Plus, if they ever just move him around a little bit more, he's pretty much just an X receiver in this offense.
76:44I think he could do more than that, but those are two total guesses that might not happen.
76:49Like I saw Jordan Schultz, I believe, reported today that the Browns want a third round pick or a fourth round pick for Jerry Judy.
76:56Guess what, folks? They ain't getting a fourth. It's not as our mutual friend Marcus Grant likes to say, it's nice to want things.
77:02You're not getting a third or a fourth round pick as much as you might want it for Jerry Judy.
77:08So he might just stay on this roster. That might happen all season long.
77:11We can't bake that in here. So Boston, definitely.
77:14I can totally hear the argument that this is the best stretch from a fantasy standpoint he will have all year.
77:20It's difficult for me to say that, but I do think it's possible.
77:23From a dynasty standpoint, what are you advising on people to do from a Denzel Boston dynasty standpoint?
77:28I think you should be really excited. And to your point, in week two, they actually did use Denzel Boston more in the role you're talking about.
77:36They didn't move him around, but he was running more in breakers and doing some different things in the shallower areas of the field, intermediate.
77:43And so they have shown a willingness to do it.
77:45And I think that would be the thing that ultimately is probably the best way.
77:49Because even if Jerry Judy leaves, it's like, well, I don't think Isaiah Bond's a needle mover.
77:54It doesn't take a lot to get a 10% target share.
77:57You know what I mean? And so I think the role has to change.
78:01I think they have to start using him in other ways.
78:04And it's totally possible because he's playing fantastic. Right?
78:07And that's how you beat this. It's just that there's so many different things.
78:10But from a dynasty standpoint, I think you should be pretty happy if you drafted Denzel Boston.
78:15I mean, he got pushed down in dynasty drafts quite often.
78:18Like, you might have gotten him towards the middle or end of round two.
78:22And I was in one league where he went at the beginning of round three.
78:26So where you got him, I think you feel great.
78:29I think if we were redrafting today, there's some of those first round receivers he would go way ahead of at this point.
78:35So, yeah, I think if you got him in dynasty, that's still pretty good.
78:39I would say buy in dynasty. I would buy high in dynasty because I think he'll go up from a market standpoint here going forward.
78:46Okay, my fifth and final data point before we go to break here.
78:49Just real quick on this one. Want to give a quick update to the slowest teams in the NFL this year from a pace score standpoint.
78:57This is my metric where I just blend a bunch of different pace stats.
79:01Seconds per play, plays per game, you know, pace, the whole deal.
79:04Okay, so these are the bottom five teams so far.
79:07A lot of teams we should expect here. Dolphins, Seahawks, Jaguars, Falcons, Broncos in ascending order, 32 and on upward.
79:12I think we knew the Dolphins. None of these teams are super surprising, but there's a couple interesting ones to talk about here.
79:18The Falcons, obviously they're slow paced because they're super run heavy, but it doesn't really matter because they are one of the
79:24two most concentrated teams from a pass standpoint in the NFL.
79:27The number one most concentrated team is the Seattle Seahawks.
79:30So doesn't matter for JSN, doesn't matter for Drake, and those guys are going to continue to eat.
79:35The two teams that it is a little bit of a, I would say, small issue for is Jacksonville, where it's pretty
79:41concentrated in the backfield between Basial Tootin, who I still think remains a pretty good buy because it hasn't quite happened yet.
79:47But interested to hear your thoughts on the trade market for Basial Tootin.
79:51Parker Washington, it's not as concentrated as the Seahawks or Falcons with JSN and London, but he's still the one there.
79:57So I think he can survive the slow pace in terms of just how long play calls are taking to get in there.
80:03That was a problem for the team last week.
80:05The issue is for Denver because they're very spread out.
80:08And this is one of if there's a lot of problems for Jalen Waddle, but this is one of the big problems
80:14for Jalen Waddle is they're playing slow and they throw to running backs at the highest rate because Bo Nix is scared
80:20to throw over the middle of the field. So Jacksonville, Denver, any thoughts on those guys from a pace standpoint?
80:26Yeah, I mean, in the Jags, the other thing is their drop back rate over expectation is minus 2%.
80:31So they're also leaning into their run game. Their defense is playing really well.
80:35So you have the slow pace, plus they're running the ball, which we can talk about Tootin here in a second.
80:41So it is tough. So Parker Washington is really the only one right now.
80:45You know, Brenton Strange had a couple of nice games, you know, over the last two weeks.
80:49But I think the nice thing for Parker Washington is the consolidation, to your point.
80:53And we're only seeing Brian Thomas Jr. on the field 60% of the time.
80:57They're going with the heavy personnel stuff. So I think he's pretty safe.
81:01The one that I'm really worried about is Denver.
81:03Like that, that is bothersome to me. I will say their neutral play clock, so seconds remaining on the play clock, whenever
81:09they snap the ball, when the game is within three, either way, is a 9.4, which is 13th.
81:14So that's not necessarily terrible. But, you know, I look at a lot of the things you do, but like plays per
81:20minute, we're sitting at a two, which is slightly below the league average this year.
81:25You know, you look at their regulation plays per game.
81:27Obviously, that's low at 57.4 because of this. And the Broncos, though, they also haven't possessed the ball.
81:3228 and a half minutes on average of time of possession.
81:35So their opponents, that means they're holding the ball 31 and a half minutes.
81:39So it's been like this perfect storm against the Broncos.
81:42And then on top of that, the guy you traded a first round pick for, which is probably the one we want
81:48to talk about the most, is, you know, Waddle.
81:50And he's playing 79% of the pass plays. So I just, you know, it's another one of these guys where it's like,
81:56okay, how about we just play your best receiver 90% of the time?
82:00I'm pretty sure the defenses appreciate this. They're like, oh, we only got to cover Waddle 79% of the time.
82:06And I did talk about this in my preseason write-up on Waddle.
82:09I was like, if I had a concern, it was the fact that he had been so schemed up in Miami, so
82:15much play action whenever he was really scoring fantasy points, so much in motion at the snap stuff.
82:20And right now, the Broncos rank 25th in motion at the snap.
82:23He's playing from the slot, but he's not getting in motion a lot.
82:27Getting some decent play action, you know, looks. Like they're still using some play action, but I don't know, man.
82:32Like the trade-off I thought we would get for some of those things would be more routes because I knew that the
82:38Broncos would probably run three wide receivers more often.
82:41I thought, okay, well, maybe we don't get all the scheme stuff, but if we get like an 88%, 90% route share, Waddle's going to be fine.
82:48So I did move him down to mid-range wide receiver three in the utilization report this week.
82:53Just like, and basically now we're in a, well, the Broncos have to prove that they're willing to play him more.
82:59And otherwise, like you can't, and he's still, he's getting targets.
83:02He leads the team with a 22% target share still, but it's just not enough playing time, especially with, you know, what
83:08you're talking about here, you know, the volume being so low, you know, across the board, but for passing plays specifically.
83:14Yeah. And if we're calling balls and strikes, he's let a few passes go through his hands that he should, but the
83:20big problem too, is just the routes. And this is a great stat from Brett Coleman from NFL pro.
83:25He has his YouTube channel, Brett, Brett's the best.
83:27According to next gen stats, 58% of Denver's dropbacks this year, there's a route breaking to the intermediate middle of the field.
83:33Third, third highest rate in the league. I'm telling you, a lot of those are Jalen Waddle.
83:38Bo Nix throws to that area on just 11% of his dropbacks, third lowest rate in the league.
83:43So that is where we're at with the Denver Broncos.
83:46Okay. We're going to take our last break of the show.
83:49When we come back, we're doing a quick recap on the Yahoo fantasy expert league.
83:53And Dwayne is going to make fun of all of our teams, probably mine included.
83:57Cause I have Jalen Waddle and a Mecca of these guys on the team here.
84:01So we'll see about that. All right, we'll get into that right after this.
84:05All right, we're back. And welcome to the Yahoo fantasy expert league recap.
84:09Yes, we're back to calling it expert league because your boy, uh, won again last week.
84:13I don't like the, I don't like the expert, title Dwayne.
84:16I say this all the time, but because I'm four and one, we should call it.
84:20I mean, we should definitely call it the expert league.
84:23Obviously this is a group of very, very esteemed expert analysts.
84:26Uh, I am holding strong in third place behind Scott Pianowski and Hayden winks because I was able to take down Chris Allen's crumbling team.
84:33Yes. The weatherman himself, it's falling apart for Chris who got off to a strong start with a week one win and hasn't gotten a victory.
84:40Since, uh, the best part about my team Dwayne is that yes, I've spent my life on wide receivers and yet running backs are carrying this team.
84:48Like I would be completely. You did. And Hey, you did get a receiving touchdown from Derek Henry.
84:53Does that count? I mean, that doesn't happen very often, but look what you did.
84:57Look what you did. As we know, as we know, as we know from the intro of the show, Derek Henry and I are close personal best friends.
85:05Uh, and I have been advocating for him to get more screen usage pretty much since I saw him play in the NFL preseason of his rookie year.
85:12And we finally did it. Uh, yes, I would not be anywhere without James cook and Derek Henry who combined for over 42 points.
85:19Meanwhile, Jalen Waddle, Josh Downs and Mike Wilson. Nobody gets over.
85:22I mean, even Aaron Jones, 17 points in the flex.
85:25How much of a fraud do you think my team is Dwayne?
85:28I want your honest opinion at four and one here.
85:31Look, the way I look at it is you love wide receivers and you still built a really good running back room.
85:37So let's just look at the positives, man. Like I, I think that shows your flexibility, you know, and what a dynamic person you are.
85:44You don't just watch receivers. You also know running backs, even though your receiver takes may have sucked.
85:49Well, it certainly could be going better for a couple of these guys on the team here.
85:53There's, there's no question about that. And I'm just hanging on to Brian Thomas Jr.
85:57Who might be putting up a zero on my bench every week.
86:01Cause I'm terrified. He's going to get traded. He's going to get traded.
86:04And then I'll have wanted him on the bench, but I don't know, maybe this is the week I finally give up
86:10the ghost and put them on the waiver wire.
86:13We'll see about that. Yeah. Look, I mean, BTJ, if he lands with the chiefs, you'll feel good.
86:18Maybe, maybe the bills. Those are the teams we always name that never seem to go make these moves, but yeah.
86:24Yeah. Yeah. Let's get BTJ a new home. Like we did Marv.
86:27Like it's just time. That'd be great. Yeah. Otherwise he's running clear out routes on the Harmon team bench here for the rest of the season.
86:34Okay. Scott Pianowski maintains his five and O lead on the league here with another massive victory over Dan Titus who has yet to win a game.
86:41So this was the best team in the league hammer in the team.
86:45That's pretty much going nowhere at this point. So yeah, Scott Pianowski, he's, he's nervous.
86:49He sent out a group message to the, to the league today.
86:52I'll, I'll pull a peel back the curtain on this one.
86:55He, his running, he said he's open for business.
86:58He's trying to trade to save his running back room.
87:01Cause he's got the opposite problem for me where he's got a lot of receivers and his running backs are kind of a mess here.
87:08Dwayne. Yeah. And Kyron like playing the two minute offense.
87:10Now that's been like 15 snaps per game. The last three weeks that's helping him.
87:14He got the 16.6 here, but yeah, David Montgomery now injured.
87:17He does know how to draft receivers though. They didn't do great this week, but Amon Ross St.
87:22Brown is a flowers. Wow. And this was with Trevion in the lineup as well.
87:27So yeah, Scott squeaked one out here to stay five and O, but I see why he's trying to make a trade and look at that.
87:34He did go Jordan love over Brock Purdy. He said, I'm not playing Brock Purdy against the Seahawks.
87:39That's a great call. Listen, Scott knows ball. The, the YouTube comments bullied him for taking Kyron Williams in the second round.
87:45And it's quite literally the reason that his team is five.
87:48I know is the Kyron Williams take at this point.
87:51I don't know. I was actually considering maybe thinking about trading with Scott.
87:54Cause like I said earlier, I've got running backs.
87:57He doesn't, I have, I don't have receivers. He does.
87:59So we'll see. Maybe something happens in the league this week.
88:02Maybe you guys in the YouTube comments can let us know what Scott and I should trade here.
88:07Maybe make it work for both of us. Okay.
88:10Scott and I are, are legitimately great friends. So I don't want to ruin a friendship over this.
88:15Okay. Speaking of great friends, Boone continues his surge to the top over protons, torpedoes here.
88:19Boone had his waiver wire pickup of the year.
88:22Unfortunately, he was able to grab Drake may not me.
88:24I had to settle for the Jacoby Brissett scam, but Boone is definitely coming back after tying earlier in the year.
88:30He's soaring right now. Things are looking great for Boone's team.
88:33I wouldn't say this to his face, but I will say it behind his back.
88:37I'm nervous about Justin Boone coming for me here.
88:40Yeah. I mean, Drake London started the season slow and now, you know, he's got Penix out there.
88:45We'll see what happens with the injury. So that, that probably hurt him to start the year.
88:49Christian Watson love it. 29 fantasy points. And he's got a lava giving him a dud.
88:54Of course that will happen whenever you play the Vikings, but you can't bitch bench, Chris a lava, but the Emmanuel Wilson
89:00one, man, that's a nice, that's a nice spot.
89:02Start from Emmanuel Wilson, giving you 12.2 fantasy points.
89:05I like it. Another team on the rise is Joel Smith who started out.
89:09Oh, and three, but has won back to back games here, including a couple of weeks ago.
89:13He beat me for my first loss. My only loss of the season.
89:17Joel started Tyson. Bajan got 3.18 points and still squeaked out a win.
89:21Thanks to a couple of monster games from Jameer Gibbs, Bucky Irving.
89:24His receivers are also looking pretty solid here too.
89:26Not a perfect team for Joel Smith. Got three quarterbacks on this team.
89:30Obviously he had to do the spot start with Tyson Bajan, but definitely a team that I think is trending in the right direction is Joel Smith.
89:37This is a good squad. I mean, Jameer Gibbs plus Bucky Irving, Nico Collins, Malik neighbors.
89:42Those are all auto starts every week. Then you've got Bryce Young and Jalen Coker on the bench.
89:47So Coker replaces Cortland Sutton and that mess in Denver needs a little help at tight end.
89:51That's the weakness right now with fan and fan is still a top 12 tight end, but it's going to be this boom bust stuff all year long.
89:59I got to say, you're saying a lot of nice things about these last couple of teams.
90:04And I think you kind of backhand complimented my team, but we'll leave that for another time here, Dwayne, when we can, we can discuss that later.
90:11Another team that has been just an absolute juggernaut.
90:14The second place team is Hayden Winks. His team wins an absolute shootout with Max, the onesie position master himself.
90:19This one was indeed a barn burner. I mean, 172 points for Hayden, 160 points for Max who got them.
90:25You got the monster game from Josh Allen. Another great game from Brock Bowers.
90:29Max is definitely making it worth work while going kind of low end receiver on this one.
90:33But Hayden's team looks great. Has some issues, obviously a running back did not matter at all this week as JSN, Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans.
90:40I mean, Hayden is reading reception perception, taking some of these great receivers.
90:44There's, there's no doubt about that. Yeah. And you, you love it whenever you just have to shove Blake Corum in the
90:50lineup and they gave you 14.7 fantasy points. And that ultimately is enough to get this victory here.
90:55Cause Jeremiah love only gave him 2.2. Look, I lost to Hayden in an expert league the week before this one.
91:01So I know what it feels like. Max. Hayden is good at his job.
91:04What can we say? All right. Good at his job.
91:07Even if you didn't show up to work today for good reason, nevertheless was Ray Garvin who did save his season with a massive win over Josh Norris.
91:15Josh is out there talking trash to Scott on Twitter and like, Josh, bro, you're two, two and one.
91:20Know your place, pal. Don't be talking trash to the five and O team in the league.
91:25When I mean, you're, you're out here starting Woody marks and DK Metcalf and Dante Myers.
91:29Like, come on, Josh, let's be serious here for a second.
91:32If he didn't have the Vikings kicker, giving him 16 points, we're not having this conversation here.
91:37But again, great week. I love Josh. I'm just, I'm just kidding.
91:40Ray Garvin. Great week here to get back on track.
91:43Obviously had a monster game from a few players here.
91:46Parker Washington, George Pickens included. Not totally sure that Ray's team is that good, but you know, he's got some good players here that came through.
91:53You got Bijan Pickens, Parker, Washington, Matthew golden. Like you can definitely build around that, you know, JMO.
91:58You just got to live the JMO experience. You're getting five or you're getting 17.
92:02You don't know which, if anyone pretends that they can tell you when it's going to occur, they are lying.
92:07They're lying. You know, there's no question about that.
92:10Okay. Pretty good. Pretty good league. We've got going here.
92:13I think, I don't think there's anyone who's clearly running away with it.
92:16Even if Scott is five and oh, his team's got problems.
92:19Hayden's team is really good. I think my team might be a fraud, but I'm in third place.
92:24We'll see how it goes. There are definitely some teams that I think are starting to wash away here.
92:29Dan Titus, his team, I have protons team, Chris Allen's team.
92:32Those guys have a lot of work to do if they're going to get competitive here.
92:37But nevertheless, that is your weekly recap of the Yahoo fantasy for now expert league, because I'm in third place and I'm four in one.
92:44We're still going to call it the expert league.
92:46That is going to do it for today's show.
92:49Big shout out to you, Dwayne. Appreciate you hopping on a real quick before you go, tell the people about the utilization
92:55port where they can find it, where they can get access to it.
92:58Yeah. You guys can find it over at fantasy life.com, as well as all the tools that I use to make the utilization report.
93:05So you can have the game log view, the season view.
93:08You can look at the leaders. I do the breakdowns on the range of outcomes every single week for you.
93:14We've got an article that tells you how to use the utilization score, how it's different than fan than expected fantasy points, all that sort of stuff.
93:21So yeah, over at fantasy life.com. And then you can check out a weekly.
93:25I do a show about the utilization report and it is over at fantasy football is life.
93:29We changed our channel. We got out from under the old one.
93:33You know, we just, you guys know how the stuff goes on the backend.
93:37So started a new channel back in the summer going really good.
93:40Appreciate all you guys that have already followed. Amazing stuff.
93:43Yeah. The utilization report is great. Dwayne is great.
93:45Appreciate you hopping in today, buddy. I know how busy it is during the season.
93:49So thanks for stopping by. Great show. We'll be back tomorrow at 4 PM Eastern live as always right here on this YouTube channel.
93:56We've got Nate Tice and Justin Boone for a big show tomorrow.
93:59You guys are going to want to check it out again, live at 4 PM Eastern until then we are out.

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