0:00Big show for you here today. It is the Week 6 data dump, as always here on a Tuesday.
0:05However, a little bit of a special twist here.
0:08We've got Dwayne McFarlane of Fantasy Life stepping in for Ray Garvin here today, and it's great.
0:12We've got a ton of awesome information to get through here.
0:15So many database storylines. Obviously, you guys know Dwayne's work from the Utilization Report.
0:19This is right up his alley. We talk about whether Isaiah Likely is a set-it-and-forget-it tight end one rest of season.
0:25Can Caleb Williams impending return, fix what's wrong with the Chicago Bears pass catchers?
0:29Also, I know we just put Jeremiah Love in the coping corner, but Dwayne says he actually might be a buy low.
0:35Plus, we have the Week 5 Expert League recap.
0:37All that and more come up on today's show.
0:40Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
0:43Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast, and it is a hell of a day to talk ball.
0:48We have our usual Tuesday show here with the weekly data dump.
0:51However, Ray Garvin not joining me today. Ray is out for today and joining me is a very special guest, friend of
0:57the show, Dwayne McFarlane of Fantasy Life. Dwayne, what's going on, buddy?
1:00What is up, Mr. Harmon? I'm sorry, Ray. Don't let me snatch your chain.
1:04Jeremy Bernard might snatch Michael Pittman's chain because he's going to miss some time.
1:08I'm just telling you. Do we think he's snatching Michael Pittman's chain?
1:11What about DK Metcalf's chain? I mean, Jeremy Bernard coming for wide receiver one.
1:15Have you ever seen Aaron Rodgers talk about DK Metcalf the way that he talked about Jeremy Bernard knowing all the checks
1:21and the calls and the hand signals? I don't think so, Dwayne McFarlane.
1:25You're coming in hot right at the top of the show.
1:28It took seven years to talk that way about Devontae Adams.
1:31I mean, what are you talking about? You know, it's a great point.
1:34It took a minute. Yeah, but in Pittsburgh, there are plenty of chains available to be snatched right now.
1:40So we'll see how Bernard does. We'll see how Ray Garvin does at the end of the show.
1:45Maybe you're going to come in here and take the spot, but we'll see.
1:48We wish Ray the best. He'll be back next week for sure.
1:52However, on today's show, we got a bunch to get into today.
1:55It is the usual weekly data dump. We each share five stats.
1:58We think you guys need to know heading into each week's games.
2:02We break it all down, everything you need to know, and it's great to have the utilization report expert himself here with us, Dwayne McFarlane, for that one.
2:09He also is going to stick around at the end of the show for our Yahoo Fantasy Expert League recap.
2:15So Dwayne is going to be able to talk trash about my team.
2:18He's going to be able to tell everybody else's teams that they suck.
2:22So a little bonus segment with Dwayne at the end of the show.
2:26But for now, let's get into it. Welcome to the week six data dump.
2:30Yes, science. Calculations are correct. You're going to see some serious.
2:33Like I said, this is what we do every single week here on the show.
2:37We each give five database storylines that the people need to know.
2:40And Dwayne, I'm going to throw it to you.
2:42What is your first stat? What storyline do you think the people need to be following here?
2:47Well, I mean, this is one that's been emerging.
2:50We had a few down games from Isaiah likely, but the underlying utilization, you know, it's been there.
2:55Harmon, like the targets, the air yards, all the things that we really care about.
2:59If you look at him, 9.4 targets per game, he ranks third in the NFL, 69.6 air yards per game.
3:04He ranks second in the NFL. And for tight ends specifically, like the air yards matter more than for wide receivers.
3:10They're predictive for wide receivers, but they're really important for the tight end position.
3:14So we just have a guy getting a ton of targets and he's getting downfield, doing a lot of damage.
3:19And the offense is really just consolidated, right? Around what we have here with likely.
3:23I mean, 30% target share leads the NFL. But if you look like at the historical comps, right?
3:28That have been at least not eight and a half targets, as well as eight to 65 air yards per game.
3:34I won't name all of them, but it's a bunch of dudes that scored 16 to 18 fantasy points per game as tight ends.
3:41Right now we have Isaiah likely in third sitting at 7.1.
3:44He's got the third best utilization score of a 95.
3:47So the reason I create the utilization score is I can create these ranges of outcomes, Harmon.
3:51And so it's a little bit different than expected fantasy points.
3:54Like they're really complementary to one another, but like expected fantasy points, you know how that works.
3:59It's really just looking at, all right, did you get a target?
4:02Where did you get it on the field? And then ultimately, what did we expect you to do with that?
4:08This goes a little beyond that because we're looking at the routes.
4:11We're looking at snaps inside the five, inside the 10, all these different things.
4:15They've averaged 16.8 fantasy points per game. So I think this is a situation where Isaiah likely is here to stay, man.
4:21I think you could put him as high as tight end three.
4:24If you want to argue Kittle over him as tight end three, put likely at tight end four.
4:29I think that works as well, but I think he's in a mini tier after Bowers and McBride.
4:34God, this is one of those situations, Dwayne, and you know this doing content all year round.
4:39I think I've said this on the show before that I really hope people listened to the June and July version of
4:45Matt Harmon when talking about the Isaiah likely projections for the season, because this was a tight end.
4:50I was all in on on that point. And then when it sounded like, okay, Malik neighbors was going to get back.
4:56And I kind of maybe backed off that a little bit, but man, he's set up really to be the second target
5:02on the team that you're kind of breaking down here.
5:05I think Malik I fields is a rookie that looks promising as some level of a role player throughout the course of
5:11his career, but not a guy that's likely, you know, no pun intended here.
5:15Likely to be a high end target getter at any point this year.
5:18For sure. Darnell Mooney is like getting into arguments on the sideline with Jameis Winston.
5:22He's not a guy that's going to disrupt this.
5:25I feel like likely is just like you said, he's here to stay.
5:28Even if Winston, I think you'd probably agree has been shaky at best from a real life standpoint.
5:33He can get these guys the football and run the scam with neighbors and likely.
5:38And I think that is going to continue here.
5:40Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest risk would like moving likely too high in your rest of season ranks is what if we do see JJ McCarthy?
5:48You know, we all experienced that last year with Justin Jefferson.
5:51And you know, you know how this stuff goes.
5:53I want to write an article. I've talked about it for a while and say, so what if I told you, you
5:59know, because we have all these narratives. Well, if you got a bad quarterback, you know, your receivers can't produce.
6:05But then you have receivers that do produce with bad quarterbacks.
6:08But then you have guys like Justin Jefferson who people are like, doesn't matter who his quarterback is.
6:13It really did matter who his quarterback was last year.
6:16So that would be the one caveat is that potential for and because we know Winston's going to turn the ball over.
6:22And if there's one thing that those Harbaugh brothers hate, all coaches hate it, but they specifically hate it.
6:27Right. They hate it so much. Right. They got to wear the khaki pants.
6:31Well, I guess John wears the black pleated pants.
6:33His brother, you know, John was wearing the I may have him backwards, tan, black, whatever.
6:38They're both Jim. Jim is the pleated. Jim is the pleated khakis.
6:41Yeah. Yeah. It's Jim. Jim Harbaugh. So anyway, looking at this, you know, offense, that would be the one thing.
6:46Right. If suddenly Jameis Winston has the three turnover game and, you know, they just decide we can't have that.
6:52We're just going to run McCarthy experience that that would hurt.
6:55Yeah, that would obviously be brutal. We don't want that.
6:58Let's just keep JJ McCarthy. I actually want to completely scrap the McCarthy little gadgety run plays are doing to let's just keep JJ McCarthy.
7:05You know, meditating in the rain. Did you see that, by the way?
7:08The clip of him in the pregame? Prior to the game.
7:11Yeah. Yeah. Let's hope that's the most memorable thing that we get from JJ McCarthy from the 2026 NFL season.
7:17Although I do kind of suspect if the Giants, I mean, they got to start losing some games here, not just tying games.
7:23Got to start losing some games for Jameis to potentially give the job up.
7:27So I think we're in a pretty good spot there.
7:30And when we look at this team right now, their top two target getters, which is obviously neighbors and likely 57% of the targets to these two guys.
7:37The last couple of weeks, like it's, it's been just incredibly concentrated between these two guys.
7:42When everybody's healthy, it's really just, they're the only ones that get the football.
7:46I think that's going to continue here. So again, you said rest of season rankings, you would have it Bowers McBride.
7:51And then we're having the conversation between likely and Kittle.
7:54I think so. I think, you know, I think there's a tear break then and you get into the Laporta and some
8:00of the other guys we really like, but they don't have the raw volume.
8:04They're in good offenses, you know, and things like that.
8:07But I think when you think about the guys that could really consolidate the offense to themselves and the 49ers, part of
8:13that with Kittle is like, we know that there's going to be games that potentially a guy like Mike Evans will miss.
8:19Right. Or you've got an older running back in CMC.
8:22Debo Samuel's already hurt. So it's like a bit of a rotating chair.
8:25And as long as Kittle's healthy and he's one of the guys that's still on the field, you know, he has a
8:31chance to consolidate in ways that he didn't in the past because the offense just is not as good.
8:37So I do think it comes down to those two guys.
8:40I definitely have likely projected for more targets the rest of the way, but I have Kittle projected for more yards and touchdowns.
8:46And there's six tight ends so far this year that have run a route on 83 or more percent of their team dropbacks.
8:52It's McBride at 91 percent. Tyler Warren, 87 percent.
8:55Kate Otten. Kate Otten is always the funniest one whenever I read off this stack because you wouldn't know that he has
9:01run a route on 86 percent of the dropbacks, but he is out there running routes.
9:05Harold Fannin, Sam Laporta, Isaiah Likely. Then it goes down to Travis Kelsey at 79 percent.
9:10So six guys that are over 80 percent this year likely has been targeted on 31 percent of those routes.
9:15It is a big difference between him and some of these other players.
9:19And this is what we want. Like shout out to Andrew Cooper, who is one of the guys that's kind of founded this theory.
9:25It's like you want to if you're looking for breakout tight ends, you're looking for a guy who can lead his team
9:31in targets or at least be the second place guy.
9:34And certainly it's a pretty big drop off between Likely and all these other players.
9:38So I listen, Likely wanted to leave the Ravens.
9:41I think that was that's been made clear. You know, there's been a lot of national.
9:45And I was talking about this a little bit on the Sunday Night Recap show where, you know, there was obviously it's
9:51easy to say Mark Andrews that why they prioritize him over Likely.
9:54It seems like Likely wanted to move on and find a new opportunity.
9:58It's with the same coach in John Harbaugh. And yet this is why you want to move on here, because he's never
10:04he would never have been putting up these stats had he stayed at Baltimore.
10:08So shout out to Isaiah Likely here for sure.
10:10Can I get really quickly just get your thoughts on the Malik neighbors experience so far?
10:15Are you just kind of trusting the volume here with him?
10:18Because it's been from, I would say, a film perspective and even just kind of his the way he talks about his own injuries.
10:24It's a like kind of an up and down experience.
10:27Where are you at with neighbors rest of season?
10:30Well, I think we've seen the ramp, you know, week one, 71% route share week to 82%, 77% in week three.
10:35And then in week four, we jumped to 91%.
10:38And then last week, 97%. Now is after saying that his knee felt weird.
10:42I don't know what to expect when his knee doesn't feel weird.
10:45But I mean, we know this guy is a top six wide receiver from a talent perspective.
10:50Whenever he's healthy to me, he's looking healthy. And he's got a quarterback that's willing just to, you know, that's the beauty of Jameis.
10:56He will just keep peppering these two guys. Like, and he doesn't really care if it's tight window throws, those sort of things.
11:03He's having to be more careful because he doesn't want to turn it over and get benched.
11:07But I think also just with the rest of the targets that are, the rest of the players there to earn targets.
11:13Like there's just no one else that's really standing out.
11:16And they've basically eliminated Cam Scadaboo from the passing game.
11:19So it's just all rolling through these guys. But I move Malik Neighbors up to low-end wide receiver one rest of the way.
11:25Last week, I moved him to high-end wide receiver two.
11:28If he has another game like this where he's out there 92%, 90% plus of the routes, I mean, he's a mid-range
11:34wide receiver one the rest of the way for me.
11:37The big concern with him is like, will he re-injure the shoulder?
11:40Because it is something that, you know, you get the YOLO balls down the field and you're going to get a couple per game with Jameis.
11:47So if he lands on it wrong, the biggest risk I think you have with Neighbors is Winston getting benched or, you
11:53know, you have the games where he just gets knocked out early, right?
11:57And then he comes back and plays the next week.
12:00You're like, well, I got to play Malik Neighbors because he's awesome whenever he's, you know, not off the field.
12:05So I think those are the only two things.
12:08But to me, like, he may not be perfect right now, but man, he's got a 28% target share on the season.
12:14Last week, 36% target share. So, I mean, he's getting fed 23.2 and 29.1 fantasy points over the last two games.
12:20Yeah, I made the point to Josh and Hayden on our recap show that if you have Malik Neighbors on your fantasy
12:26team, the best advice I can give you is just mute Malik Neighbors on Twitter.
12:30You don't want to hear what he has to say about his own injury.
12:34You know, you just, you know, because listen, I respect it.
12:37Like, he's just being honest and telling us how he feels.
12:40And I think we're way too quick to assume like, oh, the guy is out there.
12:44Everything must be okay. That's definitely not the case with these athletes.
12:47So I actually respect that he talks about it that way.
12:50But that seems to be like the biggest stress is, oh, what's he going to be like this week?
12:56Well, he's going to be fine. He's going to be an absolute stud because he is an absolute stud.
13:01And he's just continuing to trend upwards here. So a couple of interesting matchups to point out for this Giants team the next couple of weeks.
13:08Week six, they get the Saints. That's a defense that you can definitely exploit.
13:12Week seven, they get the Texans before their week eight bye.
13:15And if you think about this Texans defense too, I know we're skipping ahead a week here.
13:20The Saints are a green light defense. Not worried about that.
13:23But it's week seven against the Texans. That's typically where we've seen targets funnel over the middle of the field.
13:28Now, getting Aziz Alshair back last week definitely helped the defense.
13:31Playing the Titans also helps the defense too. They don't have a mismatch weapon to necessarily do this with.
13:36But likely is essentially this team's slot receiver. We mentioned the route participation is 83%.
13:41Snap rate is 71% in the slot. Malik Nabors, 16.7%.
13:43So if one of those guys is going to go crazy against that defense in week seven, if Jameis can get the
13:49football off, it's another really good matchup here for likely coming up.
13:53Yeah. And I just think likely is kind of at that point where like Jameis probably doesn't really care about the matchup
13:59and likely is a very good athlete. So he's going to be able to get open multiple times a game, even in
14:05tough matchups, you know, because most linebackers and safeties are just going to struggle with them.
14:09There will be guys that can match up with him.
14:12And there's just not that many of them in the league.
14:15So yeah. And we did see the Texans take a little bit of a step forward this last week.
14:20You know, they've, they've had to play a lot of really good defenses.
14:24I mean, a lot of really good offenses to start the year.
14:27So their defense like versus the wide receivers and stuff, it doesn't look that great right now, but I have a feeling
14:33that that will come around as they stop playing like the jogger or not offenses like they had to, to start the season.
14:39And I do agree. So that, that makes likely, you know, a guy that could have even more work in that game.
14:45All right, let's get to my first data point this week.
14:49And I am asking, does the impending return of Caleb Williams fix bears past catchers issues?
14:53And if so, which ones? So I think the biggest difference between this year's bears offense and last year's bears offense is
14:59born out in the explosive play data. Bears are 19th in explosive play rate through five weeks.
15:04They were seventh in all of 2025. They're still 11th in explosive rushing rate.
15:08So obviously they're still getting big plays on the ground, not as much through the air.
15:12And that is, I mean, we all know why that is.
15:15They've played two noodle arm backup quarterbacks the last couple of weeks.
15:18This is, this is last three weeks. Excuse me.
15:21This is classic backup quarterback stuff here where the longer these guys plays, the longer these guys play, the worse it gets.
15:27Um, when you look at the average depth of completion on these bears past catchers through five weeks this season, it's Roma
15:33dunes, a way out ahead at 13.7 average depth of completion.
15:36Uh, the area arts on his completed targets. Then it's Cole commit 8.4.
15:39Everybody else is sub 6.8. Luther burden is 6.7.
15:42Khalif Raymond is 5.04 freaking Colson Loveland all the way down there at 4.38.
15:46So I'm just curious, Dwayne to you, do you think getting Caleb back kind of smooths out some of the ups and
15:52downs and honestly, a lot of downs for some of these bears past catchers?
15:56Like where are you at with these guys? Are they buys rest of season?
16:00Are you adjusting expectations preseason here? Cause I think this is a big talking point this week.
16:04Yeah. So I think the point about Caleb is we know that he can bring the big plays back.
16:09The challenge for Caleb though, is can he keep the offense on time and stay out of long down and distance and things that make you more predictable.
16:17Uh, we know that he can do things that only a few quarterbacks in the NFL can do.
16:22And he's going to make these amazing plays where you're like, how did he get out of that pressure running, you know,
16:28to the left and throw the ball, you know, to the middle of the field, like in a way that like really
16:34only he and Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, there's like just a handful of guys that can really do the things he does.
16:40But the challenge is like Ben Johnson wants to run the offense on time and really Caleb was struggling too, to start the year.
16:47So I do think that long-term getting Caleb back to your point, it's better than having Case Keenum or Tyson Bajent under center.
16:53And I think it will add upside to the offense.
16:56But I think the bears are also just very willing right now to just run the ball.
17:01Like you said, they're being very, they've been very explosive on the ground.
17:04If you look at the drop back rate over expected, it's very similar to pass rate over expectation guys.
17:09Like this is one of the most run heavy teams in the league.
17:13Now we'll see if Kalmanunga is ready, you know, to come back from the toe and the thumb injury.
17:18If it's just DeAndre Swift and Roshon Johnson, you might throw the ball a little bit more.
17:23But I think that the explosive plays are going to be there.
17:26My bigger concern is like, can they just really get the offense to gel?
17:30And, you know, can Caleb do the little things like, you know, on second and eight, when you got a five yard
17:36completion, just go ahead and take it. Like if that first read is not there, because a lot of times, you know,
17:42what Caleb will do is he's waiting to make the big play too often.
17:46And I think it does drive Ben Johnson a bit crazy.
17:49So it's a tough, like as far as rest of season, it's a tough route.
17:53I'm very interested in your thoughts. So like the guy playing the most right now is Romo Dunze, but he's basically stuck on the boundary.
18:00He's got the deepest average depth of route on the team.
18:03So he's, he's mostly working deep and he is getting some in breaking stuff, you know, further down the field.
18:09And Caleb is more likely to hit those right than some of the other guys.
18:13Um, but like with Luther Burden, as much as I like him, like he kind of is in the mold of the things Caleb doesn't want to do.
18:21And so I, I wonder if Luther Burden's actually been better with the dink and dunk guys.
18:25Um, but even with him, like we can't get to a full route participation, right?
18:29We're just, all of these guys are rotating and it's, it's kind of a pain because I mean, last week burden was a season high 79% route share.
18:37Like he's got the highest target share on the team, but then we have Colson Loveland.
18:41He's also rotating. Um, like he said, a 70% route participation rate.
18:45So they, they seem pretty content to like rotate all these guys except for Odundze, but he's in the least conducive role,
18:51uh, as far as like just what they're asking him to do on a, on a down and down out basis.
18:57That's what's so frustrating about it is you think, Oh, the guy is on the field is going to be the most
19:03useful and yet he, yeah, he has the highest, uh, average depth of route.
19:07He runs the most difficult routes too. So it just, it's tricky with these guys.
19:11Like, I don't think there's an easy answer. I think the easiest thing to say is that we just need more than
19:171.75 games of Caleb Williams to really come to a conclusion here, especially because to your point about like with Caleb Williams,
19:23not taking some of the layups, I thought he was really good about that in week one.
19:27Like he did not force things in, in week number one.
19:30He did take those layups to like Kalief Raymond over and over again, and just kept the offense on schedule and kept it moving.
19:37Now the Panthers don't have a good defense. That's obviously part of it, but you know, I think that's a, then, then
19:43the second week, then he's like kind of playing a little frenetic, but it's in the rain.
19:48It's Brian Flores. He's Brian Flores basically put everybody in a locker so far.
19:52So, you know, that just might be, it is what it is sort of with that sample is just like not, it's
19:58not conclusive enough, especially because in week one, Odundze and burden to some degree, I think we're playing limited roles.
20:03Certainly Odundze definitely. That's the clear outlier there in terms of his snap percentage.
20:07But yeah, I think the guy just that's trickiest is Luther burden because he has not really clicked on anything beyond like
20:13the gimmicky designer stuff at this point. And you would think that if he's going to take this big leap this year,
20:19he needs to start getting more looks in that intermediate area where I think he showed in his rookie season, he was
20:25capable of getting open in those areas, but he also hasn't really finished the plays.
20:29Like he actually has the most contested targets on this team, which I thought was surprising.
20:34And he's got about a 50% contested catch rate.
20:36Colson Loveland has fewer contested targets, but he's at a 50% rate.
20:40But Odundze is 75% off the top of my head contested target rate, but just his losses have come in these like
20:46really annoying, difficult areas like that are hard to get out of your head.
20:49Like obviously the touchdown against the Eagles. So it really is a tricky situation here.
20:54I don't think there's a clean cut spot. And the guy that obviously people are most frustrated with is for sure Colson
21:00Loveland, who went the earliest of the group. Yeah, for sure.
21:03The thing I'll say with burden, you know, and everything you said is true, but they're definitely trying to do the things for him.
21:09I mean, Ben Johnson dials up all of the easy buttons, guys.
21:13Like this is one of the best play action offenses in the league.
21:16They use a lot of motion. They use a lot of different, like multiple sets, you know, defenses have to prepare for
21:22a lot whenever they're getting to rate, whenever they're getting ready to play the bears.
21:26And so like, I think really any one of these guys could click.
21:30I do think Luther Burden is the one in the role.
21:33If he was able to get his routes up to like 85, 90 percent, where it could be the most conducive to fantasy production.
21:40Like his average depth of route is up this year.
21:42It's at an 8.7. So last year he did play a lot more of the gimmicky stuff.
21:47So they're trying to let him do it. But to your point, like he hasn't necessarily succeeded on those routes.
21:53It's like the things how he's still getting his fantasy production is coming on.
21:56You know, some of the same things that gave him his fantasy production last year.
22:01So if he could take a step, I do know that like they want they want Luther Burden to be successful, like
22:07because they have him and they have him doing the things that are the cheat codes.
22:11He's getting to do the things that Michael Wilson is doing in Arizona.
22:15A lot of these other guys like he gets the most protection from the opposing scheme.
22:19And then part of that is he's operating in the same area of the field as Loveland.
22:24And so I think that's actually been part of why they're keeping Loveland back to block and do some different things.
22:29They've had some offensive line issues, obviously. But if he doesn't get it going, like that really could open the door for
22:35Loveland because we did see Loveland really. He succeeded last year at the end of the season.
22:40But again, like it's really tough, man. I don't if I had to put a chip on one guy right now based
22:46on what we've what we've seen so far in the way they're running the scheme, it would be burden.
22:51But I'm not super confident. Like I have him as a wide receiver three right now.
22:56You had to draft him as a wide receiver two.
22:59Colson Loveland I have as a borderline tight end one.
23:01You had to draft him as a top three tight end.
23:04Romo Dunze I drafted as a wide receiver three.
23:07I've got him in wide receiver four to wide receiver five territory rest of the season.
23:11Yeah, it's difficult. And again, nobody projected a 16.7% target share for for Khalif Raymond.
23:15And that's the guy that like might need to completely might need to completely go away for Loveland and Luther Burden to really get going.
23:22And because they all run routes in the same area of the field.
23:26But I don't know he's fading away a little.
23:28He is fading. Over the last two weeks. But but we don't know, you know, that can be a blip.
23:34We don't know. Like he could just be right back to 70% routes next week.
23:38I would argue, too, that those touches for him in the first three weeks of the season were some of the best stuff that the offense was doing.
23:46And then these last two weeks, like not only is some of the opportunity fading, but then every time they do try
23:52to gimmicky designer, get him the ball. Those plays go absolutely nowhere.
23:55And again, is that because people are starting to squat on the offense with Tyson Bajan, who definitely I mean, there are
24:01some wide not just to a dunze who's obviously a great separator down the field.
24:05But there were some wide open plays to Luther Burden on these in cuts that Tyson Bajan just completely didn't see in week number five.
24:12So I'm I still want to be optimistic about these guys.
24:15But I think the absolute like heater range of outcomes here has probably come down for all of them simply because Raymond
24:21has been more involved than we probably projected. But I still want to kind of kind of like advise a tepid buy
24:27on all of these guys to really get going as the season goes on.
24:31I mean, this matchup this week against the Falcons is a pretty nice one for Caleb to come back to because they've
24:37had a lot of injury issues at the corner position.
24:40Yeah. And I think, you know, with the Bears, the way I keep it super simple is their holds, you're not going to be able to sell them.
24:48Right. So you're either holding or buying. Right. You can't sell them right now.
24:52But at the end of the day, like we still want to be part of a Ben Johnson offense.
24:57You know, there's a chance that we're still early in the season, man.
25:00And to your point, we've got, you know, one and a half games basically with Caleb.
25:05So this is something that can change really quickly.
25:07I think the most discouraging thing is the fact that they're all playing basically part time roles.
25:12That that that's the toughest part to get my head around.
25:15Like, I feel like the other stuff can probably iron itself out.
25:18That's like you said, if they want to keep running Kalief Raymond out there and, you know, they feel like they got
25:24to give him a 65 percent route share because they run so much heavy tight end stuff.
25:29That means that you're if he's going to play 60 percent, that means you're rotating, which it's burdened right now.
25:34Romo Dunze last week had 100 percent route participation rate.
25:37Yeah, I don't see him coming off the field either because he's a good blocker and like the only X receiver of the unit as well.
25:44So just a tricky one to figure out. But we definitely need more data with Caleb Williams.
25:49There's a chance we come out of that week 10 by that we were showing on the screen and they got matchups against the Saints and the Lions.
25:57And by that point, Twain, we're like, yep, it's all clear.
26:00Full green, full green light here. Let's go. The Lions do fix a lot of troubles on defense.
26:05I will say that there's no doubt about that.
26:07They play the Lions in week 17 if we're looking way ahead to fantasy football championship week.
26:12So that should be a pretty fun matchup there.
26:14OK, let's get to your second point. This is a wide receiver we're talking about here that we all know we can trust.
26:21What do we got here for point number two, Dwayne?
26:23Yeah, Mike Evans. Look, he's another guy that's not playing in a full time role right now.
26:28We still haven't seen an 80 percent route share from him, but that could just be due to they want to manage the workload.
26:35It could also be the guy still dealing with a rib injury.
26:38And I mean, he's just a complete warrior. So we haven't seen him healthy yet.
26:42And he was not healthy in the preseason. So he's still technically probably learning a new offense.
26:47This is very different than any offense that he's ever played in before.
26:50And I would argue it's the best scheme that he's ever played in as far as not just having to be on
26:57the outside, working more vertical down the field, dealing with multiple other wide receivers on the field.
27:01Like, he's getting a lot of cool stuff. And what's cool about Evans right now is when you go watch it, he's still getting his deep shots.
27:09But the way they're sequencing the plays to set those things up for him, like, it's just, it's very different than what we've seen historically for Evans.
27:16So I'm really excited about him. Even though he's 33 years old, I think as long as he's healthy, man, I do
27:22think that he's moving towards wide receiver one territory.
27:25I upgraded him to a mid-range wide receiver two this week, but another strong week and he'll be there.
27:30The route participation is a little concerning, but man, when he's out there, Harmon, like, he's getting targeted so much.
27:35He's a 31% target per route run. That's second in the NFL right now behind Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.
27:41He ranks third in yards per route run at 3.05.
27:43He's smashing against man, really destroying man. Targets come down a little bit against zone coverage, which is normal.
27:49That happens to a lot of receivers, but still has really good marks against zone as well.
27:53So, yeah, I'm really excited. The 26.3 fantasy points that we got last week, I think it's an example of when he's
27:59healthy, of like the kind of games that you can get, right, in this 49ers offense, which is one of the best
28:05offenses in the league, and Brock Purdy's playing out of his mind.
28:09Yes, he can't go the whole season without getting sacked.
28:11The Seahawks did prove that last week. But look, I mean, they put up a lot of points last week.
28:17Obviously, they had a fumble recovery for a touchdown and stuff like that, but the offense still looked really good, even though
28:23it was a rough start, right, against the Seahawks.
28:25So, I just, I feel really good about Mike Evans, even if he doesn't get over an 80% route share for the season.
28:32I think that Mike Evans is just really in a good place.
28:35You just have to avoid him having a season-ending injury, because this dude will play through nagging stuff, but you just got to avoid a season-ending injury.
28:43And you might have to stomach at some point, like three weeks, he might miss a game for a hamstring or something
28:49like that, which is, you know, you'd rather that than like the Lad McConkie.
28:52Is he going to go out there and, you know, whatever, right?
28:56You want to kind of avoid that situation. So, I mean, to your point, we spent all summer talking, Dwayne, speaking of
29:02Lad McConkie, like who's going to be the next Jackson Smith and Jigba, the guy that's getting all those targets per route, yards per route.
29:09It's been Mike Evans so far is the guy that was drafted outside of like the top two rounds.
29:14He's fourth in targets per route, as you mentioned, behind only Pukunakua, Zay Flowers, Jackson Smith, and Jigba.
29:19He is just behind Zay Flowers, JSN, Drake London in terms of yards per route run.
29:23Yeah, I mean, Unk still got it with Mike Evans.
29:26There's no doubt. And I love his route tree this year, Dwayne, because you can pretty cleanly map.
29:31You can pretty cleanly map like his most frustrating seasons, which to me in the recent kind of era of his games,
29:37his time in Tampa Bay and then this year in San Francisco, 2022 was a frustrating year.
29:42That was the final year of Tom Brady. He had a 28% go route rate in that season.
29:47And that was insane with Brady, who was getting rid of the ball so fast because he wanted to just not get hit.
29:53And it was his final year in the league and the whole deal.
29:57So 28% go routes. A lot of those are not even going to have a chance to develop by the time Brady
30:03is getting rid of that football at 2.3 or 2.2 seconds.
30:06That's the Marvin Harrison role. You know, I mean, he was playing the Marvin Harrison role.
30:10Correct. Yes, exactly right. He was playing the sacrificial X receiver role, except you're not sacrificial when you're Mike Evans.
30:16You're supposed to be the primary read. But in a lot of those, again, Brady's going to get that football.
30:21Anyway, so that was that year. Last year was the first time in the other few seasons with Baker Mayfield where he's got the 22% go route rate.
30:29And again, you felt some of that frustration where obviously some of it is the injuries.
30:33But even then it's like, where is Mike Evans?
30:36You know, the other players are getting the football, the whole deal.
30:39Then this year in San Francisco, it's down to 16.8%, which is the lowest on record for Mike Evans.
30:44Because as you mentioned, he's getting downfield looks. Some of it is like these deeper corner routes, out routes on sale concepts.
30:50And of course, the big in breakers in the Kyle Shanahan offense as well.
30:54So I really see no reason other than health why this just can't keep rolling for Mike Evans.
30:59Yeah, I mean, to your point, and that's kind of what I was trying to say earlier.
31:04You said it a lot better than me. And I've watched most of the film.
31:08I haven't watched this last game for Mike Evans.
31:10But what I was just noticing is like, yeah, I mean, he's just in the window and in the view of the
31:16quarterback like so much more often, you know? And maybe you can't throw it to him in the first window, but he's running across the field.
31:24So there's another window to still throw the ball into.
31:26And so, and the way they're sequencing the plays and setting things up, it's like the deep routes are more profitable now
31:32because the defenders don't know for sure what he's doing.
31:35Because he's not running a go route on 28% of the plays.
31:38You don't know if he's running a comeback, right?
31:41If he's going to be running, you know, the deep dig, or is he going to go ahead and hit you for
31:47the post or the corner route, like you said.
31:49So I just, I think this is a really good offense and it's very well designed.
31:54And it's great to get to see him playing in this.
31:57Matchups, you get the commanders this next week, a plus 4.3 point per game boost to wide receivers so far this season.
32:03That's just basically looking at defense adjusted for the opponents they played.
32:06Then you get the Falcons a little banged up.
32:09They're basically a neutral matchup. You have a bye week, but then you get the Raiders plus 3.7 points per game to wide receiver rooms.
32:16And then the Cowboys, I don't even say the number of the Cowboys.
32:19You guys just all know they suck. They can't cover anyone.
32:22So the schedule doesn't get any better. You know, I mean, so to me, like I called Mike Evans a bye high in the utilization report.
32:29Cause I'm like, dude, after he plays the commanders and the Raiders and the Cowboys, if he's healthy, like you won't be able to get him at all.
32:37So like, if you need some, if you need a receiver, like now I'm, I'm willing to buy high on a player
32:43like him coming off of a good game, because I still don't think people are going to value him the way that
32:49he could really look in the next three to four weeks.
32:52That's a really good shout by the way, on the comeback route.
32:56So just looking this up on the fly, he's run the, and it people, the comebacks are not like a super highly run route 4.7% for Mike Evans.
33:03That's the highest among any receiver that's run a hundred or more routes this year by a decent bit.
33:08JSN is number two. Mike is such a, he's so awesome.
33:12The fact that he is six, five, 230 pounds, 32, 33 years old, and he's such a great technician that he can
33:18be running these comeback routes effectively at his age is unbelievable.
33:21Dwayne. And when you put it, like he's just in the window of the quarterback, when Mike Evans is in the window,
33:27he's taking up the whole window because he has 98th percentile arm length.
33:30And he's going to have 98th percentile arm length, an arm length until the day he walks off the NFL field.
33:36So this really has been a perfect marriage, right?
33:39This is another one, depending on the calendar time that you listen to the podcast and when you're tuning into NFL content.
33:45When he signed with this team in March, it was like, oh, sky's the limit, baby.
33:49Mike Evans, the San Francisco 49ers, ex-receiver, Kyle Shanahan's offense, perfect, perfect fit.
33:53All these routes we're highlighting here. He's been running these routes at a high level for the last eight years of his NFL career.
33:59One of the best route runners in the league.
34:02And he's this physical freak. That's a guy that's going to age really well.
34:05And then August was such a S show in terms of the injury reports and all this stuff.
34:10It was hard to really get excited about it.
34:13Now we're kind of back to where we began, where it's like, this is simple.
34:17Mike Evans is a future hall of famer. He's an unbelievable player and he's Kyle Shanahan's ex-receiver.
34:22And as Wayne is sitting here saying, buy it high, man, because it's only going to go up from here as long
34:28as he doesn't go on the injury report. Yeah.
34:30Yeah. Yeah. You don't, you don't want to overpay strictly because he's older and you worry about the injuries.
34:36But when I say buy high, like if you look at his utilization score in the three healthy games, he's had, he
34:42left one game with a hip injury. The other game with the ribs injury.
34:45It's an 82. Historically, the comparisons, right for the, for that utilization score, 51% of them finished as wide receiver seven to 12.
34:52I don't really need to say any of the other data points.
34:55That's your median outcome. So I, when I say buy high, like I think you can buy Mike Evans right now as
35:01a high end wide receiver too, and still have room to profit.
35:04And I don't think you're probably even going to have to pay that price.
35:08I think you can buy him as a mid range wide receiver too, and someone will sell him to you at that price.
35:15In fact, I know that will, if you guys go, if you go look over, I don't know what, you know, trade
35:21tools you guys look, look at, you probably have some stuff, you know, here at Yahoo that you use.
35:26But I was looking this morning and there were quite a few.
35:29I was like, you know, people have not woken up to Mike Evans.
35:33I feel like some people are trying to sell because they're just like, okay, I got a big game and I'm worried
35:39about him getting hurt, which is fair to some extent.
35:42But yeah, I think that's what keeps the price lower.
35:44Yeah, everything that we're saying here, I'm 100% signing the check.
35:47I'm cashing it on Mike Evans. And yet I know that I might go into my bank account next week and it
35:53says, oh, you're out of money because Mike Evans got it.
35:56You know, that, yeah, that we might be overdrawing the account on the Mike Evans optimism because he could get hurt anytime.
36:03So totally fair there. Okay. I'm curious to see where you come down on this next player as a by Garrett Wilson.
36:09Is it finally happening for Garrett Wilson? Because he is on pace for the best season of his career through the first five weeks of the NFL season.
36:16Full season pace right now for Garrett Wilson. 105 catches, 1,271 yards and 10 touchdowns.
36:20I probably don't need to tell you guys. Those are all good.
36:24Those would all be the highest marks of his NFL career, obviously in a bad environment.
36:28Of course, he's currently crushing it on all the, you know, environment sensitive teammates surrounding sensitive per route stats.
36:33Despite playing 18% of his snaps in the slot, 2.35 yards per route run, 11.3% first downs per route run.
36:39Garrett is having a great start to his career.
36:41Dwayne, he's coming off an awesome game against the Cleveland Browns where it did not matter what they did to him.
36:47Man coverage zone. He was just open consistently. I love this guy.
36:50I think he is one of the 10 best.
36:53I mean, again, sitting down and doing rankings is tough, but I think he's clearly got top 10 receiver talent.
36:58He always has is the environment now to a point where we can buy in on him being that type of fantasy
37:04producer as he's averaging 14.5 PPR per game right now.
37:07Of course, we know that can always change. Where are we at with Garrett Wilson?
37:11Yeah, man. I mean, Garrett Wilson, we've talked about him before.
37:14Like when you and I have done shows together a few years ago, I think we were kind of both on the
37:20same page of like who could be that year's CeeDee Lamb.
37:23And I think we were both on Garrett Wilson.
37:26Ultimately, I think that was the year Aaron Rodgers went down right away to start the season.
37:31It was like, well, there went that. What I'll say is about a receiver like Garrett Wilson and what I've found like
37:37in the data, especially when they don't have a ton of other really strong targets.
37:41They have some young up and coming guys. You know, Adonai Mitchell will be back from injury.
37:45Omar Cooper Jr. is probably a week or two away from returning.
37:49Kenyon Sadiq, you know, he's been doing some nice things as well.
37:52But Garrett Wilson is still clearly the guy. And what I've found with guys like this, you know, that they just need a serviceable quarterback.
37:59They don't have to have the best quarterback. But you can't have a terrible one.
38:03But you need somebody that's at least middle of the pack.
38:06And I honestly think that Geno, I talked about this a lot in the preseason.
38:10Geno did not look last year like from a stat perspective, the way that he looked with Seattle.
38:15But he was still attempting to make all of those tight window throws.
38:19And they went against him last year with the Raiders, right?
38:22And he didn't have somebody to really get open, especially once they moved Jacoby Myers on from the team.
38:27And Brock Bowers was hurt. It's not like Geno had a lot to throw to.
38:31But when I was going back and watching it, I was like, he's still trying.
38:35If he tries to do those things with Garrett Wilson, he's going to be open enough.
38:40And he's going to be able to make those throws.
38:42So Geno is the kind of guy that like he really will lock onto you.
38:47And we've seen that. I mean, a 31% target share, like you mentioned, for the season right now with Garrett Wilson.
38:52I mean, we've got two games where he scored over 23 fantasy points, you know, in the first five.
38:58And then we've got another one at 16.7, 13.9.
39:00We only have one dud at 5.7. And it'll happen, guys.
39:03It happens to everybody. And that week he had a 29% target share.
39:07So things just didn't quite, you know, work out.
39:09That was week four. So, yeah, I'm very young on Garrett Wilson because I think that what he has with Geno Smith is enough.
39:16Do I think Geno Smith's an elite quarterback? No.
39:18But I don't think Garrett Wilson needs one. I just, and I asked Scott Turner about him.
39:23I asked Scott Turner on the Fantasy Football's live show a couple of weeks ago.
39:27And so I talked to him about, like, the best players he's ever coached at the end.
39:32And so, obviously, we talked about Bowers. You know, we talked about Josh Gordon because he coached Josh Gordon.
39:37And then we talked about Garrett Wilson. And he just talked about, like, Garrett Wilson, you know, his ability to really get open against anything.
39:44Doesn't matter. Man, zone, all the things we see.
39:46But, like, to hear a coach sit there and talk about it.
39:50He just says, you know, he's got, like, a super great attitude.
39:53Very positive guy. The teammates love him. And, like, I think Geno Smith loves him, too.
39:57I would. If I were Geno Smith, I would love Garrett Wilson.
40:01Yeah. Geno's had the benefit of playing with a lot of great players over the course of his career.
40:06Obviously, again, his JSN's prime didn't quite intersect with Geno, of course, as we know.
40:10But over the course of his career, I think this is the best separator that he's played with, Geno Smith and Garrett Wilson here.
40:1793rd percentile success rate versus man coverage last year.
40:19We know Scott Turner is co-signing to getting open here for Garrett Wilson.
40:23He's just a stud, man. He's so good. And I do feel like it is kind of finally happening here.
40:28We showed the graphic from one of our preseason shows where I said, I know I could get hurt again, but I
40:34think I'm willing to get hurt again. And I wish I'm willing to get hurt again with Garrett five weeks into the season.
40:41I wish I honestly had more Garrett Wilson teams.
40:43It just didn't quite work out that way. I have him on a few spots.
40:47I wish I had him in more because there were still reasons to be concerned about what this Jets ecosystem would look like.
40:54Right. Frank Reich. We do still have the any any benching risk.
40:57Right. Is still present with Geno Smith. Now, the Jets are two and three, which is great.
41:02They have some winnable games coming up. Like they have a matchup with the Dolphins in week seven.
41:06We just need Geno to hang on to this job for the entire season.
41:10I think because if we get like click Cade Clubnick or something and that that gets a little worrisome for Garrett Wilson towards the end of the season.
41:18They have a week 13. The problem. They're one of these late by teams.
41:22The challenge is we just have that that over that's hanging over a lot of wide receivers, you know, in tight end.
41:28We just talked about it earlier with likely bride and Michael Wilson have a hanging over them with Carson back.
41:33You know, it's Garrett Wilson has a hanging over him.
41:36So, I mean, there's a lot of guys that kind of fit, you know, into that bucket.
41:41I'm with you. I did not get as much Garrett Wilson as I wanted, you know, because there were so many good receivers going in that round.
41:48Like I wanted to have Ted McMillan on teams.
41:51I unfortunately wanted to have Jalen Waddle on some teams, which, you know, why play him?
41:55Whenever you trade a first round pick for him, let's just like let him play like a part time role.
42:01So Wilson is one guy, though, that I do wish like I had over Igbuka.
42:05I wish I had him over Jalen Waddle, obviously.
42:07But I was I liked a lot of those guys.
42:10So I honestly was just trying to mix a lot of them up.
42:14But I think where it hurts even more is like I'm looking at my dynasty rankings and this is probably the lowest
42:20I've ever had Garrett Wilson, who I've always had like way ahead of the market.
42:24And now because of some of those younger guys, I thought like, yeah, I thought like this would be the year to
42:30really get some of those guys like Waddle, who's about a year older.
42:33Buka, who's younger. Lad McConkie. We talked about some of them.
42:37I don't regret like Zay Flowers bumping him. Don't don't regret that.
42:40But, you know, I mean, right now, today, I I feel like Garrett Wilson belongs closer to 10 than he does to,
42:46you know, 15 or 19 or something like that.
42:48I feel like Garrett Wilson. This is a great time in dynasty even to buy and continue to see because like the
42:54Jets obviously could be looking very different next year.
42:57Rookie quarterback, the whole deal potentially. But I like your advice to almost just kind of live.
43:02I feel like this is at least what you're kind of hinting towards live in the moment with these quarterback situations and
43:08maybe don't get caught up in what could happen.
43:10At the end of the season. Yeah, I mean, look, when I write the utilization report, like I started working on the
43:16range of outcome stuff because I got so many questions around trades and I honestly didn't know how to answer them.
43:22And so what I've really come to like share with people is anyone can be a buy high.
43:27Anyone can be a sell high. Anyone can be a buy low.
43:30Like, I mean, really, especially like the sell high buy low stuff.
43:34It all comes down to like what you need and really how your league mates feel about it.
43:38You know, and a lot of times I'll talk about some someone or everybody like, oh, no way.
43:43Nobody's trading for him. And then I go look.
43:46I look up right away 50 trades that are crazy for that player.
43:49Right. We have tools now where we can see all this stuff.
43:53And then, you know, I'm sure you get it, too.
43:56You get the DMS, you know, the player of the trades that people have made.
44:00You're like, wow. Like because I even think it.
44:02I'm like, I would never get that deal done.
44:05Like it wouldn't happen for me. But it is happening for these other people.
44:08So if you have someone, if you're worried about the quarterback situation with Wilson, you can sell him.
44:13But just what I would say is like you don't want to overthink it too much.
44:18You don't want to sell him low. Like he's a guy that you should still be trying to sell high.
44:23If someone wants to pay like he's already like he's a wider low end wide receiver one, which is where he's at right now in fantasy.
44:31I mean, I might I might listen if I really liked what I can get in return.
44:35But anything below that, like no way I'm holding.
44:38This is where the utilization report and Dwayne's work is so valuable is it does give you those range of outcomes for the buys and sells.
44:45And speaking of that, we're going to take a quick break.
44:48And when we come back on the other side, Dwayne has a very interesting buy low, a guy that we may have
44:54just put in the coping corner on yesterday's episode.
44:56So I can't wait to get into that one.
44:59We'll get into that right after this. All right, we're back.
45:02I tease this on the other side. Very interesting.
45:04Third data point here from Dwayne McFarlane. Let's hear it, buddy.
45:07What do we got? Yeah, Jeremiah Love is a buy low.
45:10And I think it's really simple. It's very simple.
45:13He scored six and a half and two point two fantasy points over the last two weeks.
45:18Your local league manager is shook. They're shook. They hate this.
45:21And here's the thing I can tell you. He's going to score more points than that.
45:25I don't know how many more, but he's going to score more points than that.
45:29And that's what you're looking for. The other thing we have going on right now is like the market.
45:34Like everyone is dogpiling on Jeremiah Love. That gets into the psyche of your league managers.
45:39Everyone is hearing how terrible he is, how he looks worse than Clyde Edwards-Alaire and whatever these other 198 running backs since whenever.
45:45I'm sorry. Jeremiah Love is better than almost every freaking one of those running backs on that list.
45:50And I don't need to hear that. Like, I'm fine.
45:53I know that. I feel good about it. And here's the other thing that people are ignoring.
45:58Because of all this, and it's so fun to do this, people have missed the main point.
46:02And we have a very strong three-week trend. In the rushing department, 78% of the carries, right, three weeks ago.
46:08And what did everyone think? Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
46:11Oh, my God. It's happening. The breakout's here. Of the rushing attempts.
46:14And guess what? Last week, he gets 71%. But I'm going to go a step further than this.
46:19And I dig even further. So in week four, he tweaked his ankle in the second quarter.
46:24Before that, he had a 75% snap share. A 67% rush share.
46:27Higher than the breakout week that everyone got so excited about.
46:30Now, not as involved in the passing game. 29% route share.
46:33That's the ding on him. Last week, he's coming back, nursing the new ankle injury.
46:37They fall behind the Lions in a blowout. He only played 11% of the snaps.
46:41In the fourth quarter. Why? Why risk him whenever he's coming back from an injury and you're getting your wills blown off by the Lions?
46:48But in the first half, while the game was still, I don't want to say it was competitive, semi-competitive, 74% of the
46:54snaps, 90% of the rushing attempts, and a 42% route share.
46:57So unless you think that Jeremiah Love just absolutely sucks or he's not going to be able to get healthy, the Cardinals
47:03are already telling you they're trying to hand him the running back one job actively right now.
47:08They're giving it to him. It's happening. And it's one of those perfect moments where it coincides with he's done nothing.
47:14He's had two terrible weeks. These moments rarely come.
47:16They rarely come your way in fantasy. So I'm buying Jeremiah Love absolutely everywhere that I can.
47:21I'm not trading him away. I am holding him.
47:23I will be starting him this weekend. And it's not a great matchup this weekend, guys.
47:28We've got a little bit of a tough schedule.
47:30But after that, it does get a little bit better.
47:33So it's just straightforward for me, man. It's just people are panicking.
47:36And everybody's piling on. So I want to be in on it.
47:40And there's a good trend around it. I'm really glad you're presenting this counterpoint view because yesterday, Boone and I on the
47:46People's Panic Meter show, again, we did put him in the coping corner, which is like you just need to accept this is what you are.
47:53You do have to cope. I don't disagree with that.
47:56I'm coping as well. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we'll see this.
47:58You're coping trying to get yourself into a positive light, at least from a decent rest of season range of outcomes here,
48:04which I want to come back to that, like where we actually think you could be rest of season and theorize that.
48:11But you're not making unfound points here. Like a lot of this stuff makes sense in what they're trying to do.
48:16My worry is just with these like nagging injuries, do they really have an incentive to push him in the whole deal?
48:22And obviously, like he can just get scripted out of games because they're not really putting him in these past first situations,
48:28I think, to maybe keep the tread on his tires and the whole deal.
48:32I don't know. We're having to do a little bit of like psychoanalysis, especially with his longest year of my life quotes and whatever.
48:39I don't think that really matters all that much.
48:41That's mostly he had to train for the combine right after NFL season, the whole deal.
48:46Like it is a long season for every single rookie.
48:49That's why we have the rookie wall that guys hit occasionally.
48:52But again, I think you're making some good points here in that, like, if you want to buy, this is the moment.
48:58Like the iron is hottest right now to strike and do that.
49:01Yeah. I mean, and I'm looking right now on fantasycalc.com.
49:04He went today just a few minutes ago, straight up for Cam Scadaboo.
49:07I will take Jeremiah Love, period. He's a better prospect.
49:10He's a better player. Cam Scadaboo looks pretty washed right now due to his own injury.
49:14And I just think Jeremiah Love is a much better player.
49:17So I'm just looking at the one for ones here.
49:20There's one for Coker. I think that's tougher. But here's one.
49:23Keaton Mitchell. Like you guys say these things don't happen, but they're like all over my screen.
49:28This is like how low people are. He straight up went for Denzel Boston.
49:32I would take Jeremiah Love straight up for Saquon Barkley.
49:34I'm probably sticking with Barkley in that deal. Kind of similar situation, right?
49:38You got two really good running backs that are injured, but we've seen it longer from Barkley.
49:43And I mean, I'm still on the trades that have happened today.
49:46Straight up for Lad McConkie. So I mean, if you need a running back, right?
49:50And you're feeling good about your receivers and you're willing to move Lad, like I would make that deal.
49:55I could see that deal going the other way too.
49:58I could see Lad eventually being a guy that you would like to get in that trade.
50:03I actually like both of those guys. But the point being is you didn't, a lot of these trades you didn't know that you could make.
50:10And now you can make them. And so I would actively be trying to get Jeremiah Love.
50:15As far as his range of outcomes for the rest of the season right now, I have him as a low end running back too.
50:22So it's like a very sober take on him.
50:24But the thing is, like some of these prices we're getting is, you know, Lad McConkie right now, I've got as a mid-range wide receiver three.
50:31And you're getting a low end running back too if you make the deal.
50:35That to me is still going to be a deal where you're at worst like you're breaking even probably.
50:40For the course of the season. I mean, Lad is obviously a good enough player if the Chargers have so many systemic problems as well.
50:47Like it's hard to imagine how it all fixes itself.
50:50And so I just, again, it just comes back to the market sentiment.
50:54We want to capture that. And again, these things line up so rarely.
50:57And that's why I'm so adamant about it. I think that is really fair.
51:01And a lot of those, again, like getting into actionable advice here.
51:04I think a lot of those trades really help paint where we're at here.
51:08Because, yes, I do think we're moving the goalpost in the coping corner in terms of him being this like massive breakout
51:14running back one for fantasy as a rookie. I think that's probably not going to happen this year.
51:19But I would definitely rather have, if we're doing one-for-one trades, like Cam Scadabu is another guy we put in the coping corner.
51:25Like it's not happening for Cam Scadabu the way people wanted this year for sure.
51:30So I'd rather have Jeremiah Love. But I think the receiver ones, because typically I think the best way to do fantasy
51:36trades is when you're doing same position, you're basically trying.
51:38Let's be honest. You're trying to get one over on the other person, which is really not the best way to do it.
51:45You kind of should try to make their team better and make your team theoretically better.
51:49So for those receiver ones, like Jalen Coker. I love Jalen Coker.
51:52I'm a huge Coker guy. Of course. We know that.
51:55Let's say you've got Christian Watson and Mike Evans or whatever.
51:58Like you don't need Jalen Coker. Why not take a shot at trying to make your running back room better, even if
52:04you're parting with a guy who's a really good player on the inverse.
52:08Maybe you're a team that drafted JSN, Zay Flowers and JSN and Christian Watson and Lad McConkie.
52:13But you also got Jalen. Yeah, you don't need like you can ship off Lad and maybe you guys do that sort of trade.
52:19So I think that makes a lot of sense there.
52:22From that perspective and brings like a good actionable take to the Jeremiah Love situation.
52:26Yeah, I still have a ceiling as a low end running back one.
52:30Right. And that's like 17 to 20 percent of the time.
52:33So, again, it's we're not saying it's guaranteed to happen, but he's a good enough player if he gets healthy.
52:38And the other thing is the Cardinals, they do want to sell tickets.
52:42Like these owners are also a part of the factor.
52:44And there's not a lot to really be that excited about in Arizona.
52:48I mean, like the team's already one and four.
52:51So, yeah. Could they shut him down later in the year?
52:54Yeah. But a lot of times we see these rookie running backs get a larger workload as the season goes.
52:59So there's we can't pretend that we know we could actually see Jeremiah Love with an 80 percent snap share in the fantasy playoffs.
53:06That could also happen. We don't know for sure.
53:08I was so with you on everything you were saying there until you tried to apply logic to the Cardinals ownership, which
53:14is when we get into pretty dicey territory here.
53:17I won't even debate that back. Yeah. I don't think there is any debating that.
53:21Speaking of getting into dicey territory, my third data point here is wondering if we saw some signs of life from the Packers run game.
53:28We could be pretty quick on this one because I was kind of just trying to shoehorn this in, honestly, because I'm curious about your take on this.
53:35Because 27.3 percent of the Packers running back carries went for a first down or a touchdown in week five.
53:41That was the best rate of the season. Again, that was just rushing work alone.
53:45I thought while watching this game, both live on Sunday and then reviewing it on film, I think the offensive line changes.
53:51I'm not going to say if this has fixed everything, but just getting in the veteran band-aids, I think we have stopped
53:57the bleeding on the Packers offensive line. If this Packers offensive line can just be a below average, if even well below
54:03average, but not stone worse than the NFL, I definitely think the passing game is going to the moon.
54:08Jordan Love and an extremely concentrated duo of Matthew Golden and Christian Watson.
54:12Yes, those guys are going to be some of the best picks that you could have made this year.
54:17Do we ever get anything out of the backfield here?
54:20Dwayne Marshawn Lloyd was the guy early on in the game.
54:23Uh, Caleb Johnson came in for some cleanup duty on overtime.
54:26I've been pretty much like it's over for this Packers running back room.
54:30It's not going to happen for them. But again, just getting some offensive line fixes in here.
54:34Again, I feel like we've stopped the bleeding. Where are you at with this Packers offense and specifically the run game here?
54:40Yeah. So on running back carries, they're up to one yard before contact.
54:44It was like 0.7. So this game progress brought them quite a, brought them quite a ways up.
54:49And I only look at it for running backs because you know how it is.
54:53Like scrambles and stuff is counted as runs, which, you know, that, that's not like the defense is not playing the run on that.
55:00So, um, I do think it's improvement. I still think it's a, it's tricky because we didn't have Chris Brooks in the
55:06game and that we did have Pierre strong jr, but Chris Brooks was kind of getting more of the role early in the week before.
55:13But I will say this, like you at least have the, the chance that it's a hot hand approach.
55:18Right. And right now Marshawn Lloyd after last game does have the hot hand.
55:22Like he had two or three really good runs and I'm not talking about just trying to be super flashy, but just
55:28know honestly being less flashy, like just lowering the shoulder pad, trying to get lower than the other dude.
55:33And I think that's been part of their frustration with Marshawn Lloyd is they know he has some elusiveness and those sorts
55:39of things, you know, but like, stop trying to hurdle the guy, you know, like, let's just put the shoulder down, get
55:45the extra two to three yards, get the first down.
55:48And I think that that is something that could like coaches like that stuff.
55:52Like let's, I mean, when you talk to coaches, like that's the kind of thing that they really like.
55:57So I do think that's a positive for Lloyd and I do think there's an opportunity.
56:01It's like you said, it's like just one data point.
56:04So it's hard to say for sure. And the Packers still, they've got a lot of injuries.
56:09They've got a lot of issues going on with the offensive line.
56:12So I'd like to see another couple of data points, but I'm with you.
56:16Now I'm at the point where I'm like, Hey, it's possible.
56:19It's in the range of outcomes. Last week I was like, this just probably isn't even in the range of outcomes.
56:25Like we're just too worried about how bad this offensive line is.
56:28But the thing I got the most excited about is the other part that you talked about, which was you finally, they've
56:34protected Jordan Love really better the last two games, still giving up a high pressure rate.
56:39But the designs around this offense this year were, we saw what they could look like last week.
56:43You gave Jordan Love time to push the ball down the field.
56:47That's what they want to do. Now they've changed Christian Watson's role completely.
56:50Like, you know, his average depth of route is way down from where it's been historically.
56:55He's in motion. He's lining up all over the field.
56:58He's, you know, it's funny because people will be like, Oh yeah, Watson, he's going to bust because, you know, he's just a deep threat.
57:04No, that guys. Yes. He still has a deep average depth of target.
57:08That's where his, a lot of his targets have still happened.
57:11But like, if you look at his route tree and you can speak to this Harmon, like he is doing so many other things.
57:18He has chances. It's kind of like the stuff back with Evans, getting more of the in-breaking stuff.
57:23They'll get him in motion to protect him from coverage.
57:25They just try to get the ball in his hands, let him work after the catch.
57:30And then Matthew Golden. Oh my God. Like talk about a turnaround from year one.
57:34This dude is actually having to play on the outside against the best cover corners and he's beating them.
57:39And man, his hands so late and so quick.
57:42That's all I can say. When you watch him, like how late he brings his hands around, like the DBs have no
57:48clue it's there and then he snatches it like a magician and he quickly gets it.
57:52He gets it tucked away so quick. And these are balls that are out of position that he's doing this with.
57:58Like Matthew Golden's hands look amazing this year. Matthew Golden's hands looked like they looked in college.
58:02Like this was the part of his collegiate profile that was kind of his superpower there.
58:07Like he had some weird drops and he's had some weird drops this year too.
58:11That's just part of it. But if you can make big time catches, nobody cares if you drop the football.
58:17Like it just doesn't matter because the guy is going to keep going back to you here.
58:21So Golden has that in his range of outcomes.
58:24And again, it's just it's the concentration here between these guys.
58:27There are three teams with that have three guys.
58:29I assume there are three teams that have two players taking up over 70% of the air yards.
58:34Number one is the Falcons, which is let's be honest.
58:37Most of that is Drake London. Almost 80% is going to two guys and pretty much it's just Drake London.
58:42Number two is the Cowboys 71%. And then number three is the Packers at 70.6%.
58:47So this is basically discount CD lamb and George Pickens.
58:49If we really want to put it that way, like it is a one and two.
58:54There's not really a three involved here. Uh, Jaden Reed getting hurt takes that off the board.
58:58Like Tucker craft is involved for sure, but he's not getting those downfield looks.
59:02Cause that's not really ever been Tucker crafts bag.
59:05You know, he's a guy that wins in the short area and rumbles after the catch.
59:09And I think you can do more and more and more as he gets healthier.
59:13But right now this is going to Matthew golden and Christian Watson.
59:17It will continue to do that. And I think if the run game can just be functional, that increases the potency of the offense overall.
59:23And I think it's a great point by you, like on a Marshall Lloyd's touchdown run, he demonstrated a lot of patience.
59:29Power. Those were not things that I would be saying about Marshall Lloyd from early in the season.
59:34So if he can just be that guy and keep the train on the tracks, I think we're in a pretty good spot with all of these players.
59:42We got great shout on Matthew golden's late hands.
59:45That was a big part of his prospect profile.
59:47And it's really showed up this year after they kind of had him play a bunch of weirdo different roles.
59:53Um, I hate to say it. I, I, I like Matt LaFleur as a coach, but, um, we were right about the receiver rotation.
59:59Nonsense. Like get these guys in clear defined roles and let them be on the field all the time.
60:04That's better than kind of the cycling in and out here.
60:07So, uh, we win the war over Matt LaFleur on that one.
60:11Okay. Let's get to your next data point. We're sticking at the running back position for this one.
60:16Yeah. So it's Ramond Ray Stevenson. And it's as long as we don't have Trevion Henderson, who's got a high ankle sprain.
60:22We don't know for sure how he's going to, how long he's going to be out, but it sounds like at least
60:28a couple of weeks, but you know how that goes.
60:31Harmon that can turn into being four weeks. And if you look at Ramond Ray Stevenson week one, I know the memes
60:37and the jokes, they were all fun. It was like 14, the most like painful 14 and a half fantasy points you've
60:43ever seen in that Island game to start the season.
60:45I mean, the guy had an 85% snap share and you know, I'm doing my utilization thing.
60:50And like just the sub comments, you know, to your tweet are just like, yeah, well he sucks.
60:55You know, uh, but Ramond Ray Stevenson, you know, to be fair, he did not look good that night.
61:00Now he didn't have a lot of help like the, and the Patriots offensive line, it still has issues.
61:06Like they've got a lot of injuries and things like that, but we've got an offense that looks very different over the last couple of games.
61:13Drake may has really, if you go watch him play, the overthrows are gone and he's now connecting right on those plays.
61:19And Drake may like doing this without having AJ Brown.
61:22And we, and we saw it last year, they never put Stefan Diggs in a full-time role and this guy was going nuts.
61:28And I know a lot of people thought, well, it's the schedule and all those things, but this is a very different
61:34offense than what we saw in week one with Ramond Ray Stevenson.
61:37And so I thought what was really interesting is last week with Stevenson coming back, he was dealing with his own ankle injury.
61:44And it happened at the very end of the week before.
61:47So a lot of people had missed it, but I think it was Jeff Mueller that found it.
61:52Great follow on Twitter at PT Jeff Mueller, I think is the handle, but you guys will find him.
61:57You should be following him on injury stuff. But in this game, if you look at it, Kiner, Corey Kiner played 60%
62:03of the snaps and had 67% of the attempts in the fourth quarter because it was a blowout.
62:08Before that, Ramond Ray had 86% of the snaps.
62:10This is after Trevion left the game. It's 86% of the snaps, 75% of the rushing attempts, and he's 60% route share.
62:16That's like just elite stuff, guys. And in an offense, it's a lot better.
62:20Like you're going to like what you're getting out of Ramond Ray Stevenson.
62:24I think as long as Trevion's out and this iteration of what the Patriots offense looks like, he's a running back one,
62:30a borderline running back one at worst. And the schedule's really good.
62:33You get the Jets, a 2.4 fantasy point per game boost to opposing running back rooms.
62:38Then you get the Bears plus 1.2. Then you get the Dolphins plus 4.7.
62:41And then you get the Packers plus 3.4. So four weeks in a row of great matchups.
62:46And so I think he's going to get at least two of these, but he might get three or four.
62:52So Ramond Ray is going to be a guy that a lot of you are getting to plug into your running back two.
62:58And you're going to feel really good about it.
63:00I think it could be pretty similar. Not quite because I think Chuba Hubbard's playing better than Ramond Ray Stevenson right now.
63:06But it could be in that range. And right now, guys, when Chuba Hubbard's playing, he's a low-end running back one.
63:12So I think you could have a similar situation here.
63:15This is why you draft these guys where it's two running backs.
63:18It's probably going to be pretty close because if one of those guys gets hurt, the other player is going to take
63:24off here, which I think is going to happen.
63:27Same in Pittsburgh with Jalen Warren. Exactly. And I don't think Jalen, hopefully, fingers crossed, we got some good, we were joking
63:33about this at the top with Jeremy Bernard, but we got some pretty good Aaron Rodgers speak on Jalen Warren.
63:38We need that to hold because, my God, he should not be giving that job back.
63:43Yes, McCarthy said it as well. After the week before, being like, well, to go back to a 50-50 split when Rico Dowdle gets back.
63:50And then Jalen Warren tearing it up in week five.
63:52McCarthy goes, well, yeah, that's our future player right now.
63:55Well, it kind of looks like a poor man's Jameer Gibbs out there.
63:59Or maybe I'll leave him out there. And hey, for the record, guys, the nerds were also right on Jalen Warren.
64:05The nerds for years have been saying, someone give this man a full-time role and see what happens.
64:10And now we're seeing. Oh, yeah. I said it on our recap show this week that I remember doing segments with Austin
64:16Eckler being like, this is the next Austin Eckler.
64:18Some team will give him a shot. Eckler liked that take because, I mean, not just because he was an undrafted guy
64:24with the number 30 in the whole deal. Some of the producers were showing me some of the clips from that show
64:30when we were talking about it, which I'm just going to say.
64:33That was like three years ago. I look so much better face-wise now.
64:37I got a much better look than I was.
64:40Somebody should have said something to me back then about how I looked on that show.
64:44Anyways, that's one thing. Number two, though. The advice was right.
64:47Yeah. Jalen Warren, these guys, they can get it going here.
64:50I think we're going to see that with Armando Stevenson here in the next couple of weeks.
64:55Moving on to my next data point, my fourth one for the week.
64:58The Bucs offense, man. What an outrageous team this has been and one of the most frustrating teams in the NFL.
65:04They play with a ton of three receiver sets.
65:07We know that third highest rate of three-plus receiver sets in the NFL.
65:10They're the only team in the NFL, Dwayne, with six players to have a 10% or higher target share this year.
65:16This is a Scott Pianowski classic. They throw to the whole phone book here.
65:20Emeka Abuka's got a 22.6%. K-Dot, an 18.5%. I don't know how that's true, but he does have an 18.5% target share.
65:2614% for Chris Godwin, 12.3% for Bucky Irving, 11% for Ted Hurst, 11% for Kenny Gainwell.
65:30And then the crazy part of this, too, Tess Johnson has a 6.8% target share.
65:34Obviously, he doesn't count on that six group of players there.
65:37But he's number three on the team in air yard share because he gets these big, chunky, deep shots, which against the
65:43Cowboys and Deron Bland, he falls over when Tess Johnson runs the corner route.
65:47But those things do add decent, like a bit of production to the offense.
65:51But it's just gone from I thought this offense really had a chance to be an excellent fantasy value offense where these
65:57guys were going to go at depressed prices. Even Abuka going in the fourth round, I thought he was a great pick there.
66:04I've been so wrong on that so far, and I don't know how much of it has to do with Abuka the
66:10player or just this offensive environment and the quarterback chaos and the whole deal.
66:13It's just been a really disappointing offense from a fantasy standpoint outside of Bucky Irving having some excellent games.
66:19And I hope they continue to give him the football.
66:21But passing game-wise, this has been so spread out, Dwayne.
66:24And I don't know if I see that changing here.
66:27Yeah, so I mean, I think there is a little bit of a positive.
66:31Like last week, you did get a 39% target share to Emeka Ibuka.
66:34So I thought that was a big positive. He scored 17.2 fantasy points.
66:38Part of that you can dismiss because you can say he was playing the Cowboys.
66:42Like, you know, Matt, you scored 12 fantasy points against the Cowboys.
66:45Yeah, he did catch the long third down play, which I have no clue how that happened.
66:50You know, the Cowboys also did that with Zay Flowers.
66:53Two totally different coverages. Neither one of them worked, you know, late in the game.
66:57But with Ibuka, like also coming off of the toe injury, right?
67:00He had the turf toe in the preseason. We know that can be a problematic thing.
67:05So I think the positive is none of the other guys, while it is spread out right now, it's not like anyone else has made their mark.
67:12So it's still really open. And I know we want receivers and stuff that have more tight ends and stuff on the field.
67:18But honestly, some of these other receivers, like Ted Hurst and stuff, he's really more of like the deep threat.
67:24So he's going to have a target share similar to some of the bad tight ends.
67:28You know, whenever we talk about playing in like 12 and 13 personnel.
67:32So I think this might actually be an opportunity to buy on Ibuka.
67:35There's a chance. Baker, I know, is pushing to play this week.
67:39I kind of hope they hold him out one more game, though, and just make sure that thumb is right.
67:44Because if he re-unjures it, as good as, you know, Jalen Daniels looked, right, on Sunday, I think, against better defenses, that
67:50I think we all would trust Baker, right? To just read a defense better and have a chance to lift the offense.
67:56Godwin's the one I had to unhitch from, you know?
67:59Because Godwin, I was just, you know, two years ago, looked so good.
68:03Like 19 fantasy points per game to start that year.
68:05He was under Liam Cohen. And he's playing a nice role this year.
68:09And honestly, what's interesting, I don't know what you've seen on film with him, but like with the ball in his hands, he's kind of looked spry.
68:16Like I'm kind of like, okay, like physical, like getting some yards after the catch, had an 87-yard touchdown callback due to a holding penalty, I think.
68:24So like there's this part of it that's there, but he's not getting any targets.
68:28He's like at a 14% target share on the season.
68:31And with an older player, once you get to this point, it's kind of like I'm probably out.
68:36I've moved Godwin way down the ranks. I moved all these guys down.
68:39But I do wonder if Iqbuka, if it's been more the toe and like we're going to see him start rounding into
68:45form here because there's not anyone else truly standing in his way that's like, okay, like he just can't overcome these other players.
68:52To me, if his target share doesn't improve and it's being spread around to these other guys and he is healthy, then
68:58he's just definitely not who we saw to start last season.
69:01Like we would just have to call it that.
69:03And maybe that's the answer, but I do think there's a chance it's the toe.
69:07It might be because, I mean, this is when he has this monster start to his rookie season.
69:12You start to think, oh man, he's going to really outkick his draft profile.
69:16But now that we've seen a lot of evidence, it's like, well, his draft profile was a guy that at least to
69:22me, you can tell me, I know you do the rookie supermodel.
69:26If you felt differently about this. I thought he was an awesome prospect, well worth a first round pick right where he
69:32went 19th overall, totally fine with me, but he's still kind of profiled as probably like a really, really good high end
69:38number two receiver, which maybe that's what he tops out to be.
69:41And, you know, they can get a great wide receiver to kind of compliment him.
69:45That's more of like a true boundary presence. That's possible.
69:48But I also think on tape, he looks good.
69:50You know, like he's a guy that is getting open to me.
69:54He hasn't quite finished some of these plays, but maybe that's one of those situations.
69:58I talk about this all the time when guys are playing or coming back from an injury.
70:02Sometimes they're just entire bodies not totally worked out just yet.
70:06So they can make some weird mistakes at the catch point if they're running differently because of the toe.
70:11Again, I know that's like guesswork. I don't I don't totally know the answer to that.
70:15But I don't know. We don't know. That's possible that that is one of the answers here.
70:20The other thing to consider just with this entire offense is it's a great point.
70:24Like maybe Baker comes back. It consolidates a little bit because I agree.
70:28Godwin, one of my favorite players in this era, just just doesn't look the same.
70:32Just doesn't look the same at all. And like didn't look the same last year.
70:36That is what it is. The upcoming schedule after they play the Steelers this week, Panthers, Falcons, Bears by Lions, Panthers through week 12.
70:42There's definitely some good matchups there for a wide receiver if he can really get going.
70:47So I'm interested to see what this offense can look like, but definitely need to cut out some of the 11% target share to running backs to run.
70:55And, you know, some of that stuff does kind of need to go away and maybe less K-Dot targets 18.
71:00My gut is the stuff to the backstay, but you can consolidate some of the stuff away from the receivers.
71:06And like, look, we've seen K-Dot long enough. Like we know that when everyone else is hurt, which is kind of how
71:12this offense looks right now, is like they don't really have a receiver.
71:15We've seen him do this. But if someone else is capable of stepping up like and earning more, we've also seen K-Dot very quickly disappear.
71:22So I think that's your path is probably through that.
71:25But I do think they like the backs out of the backfield because they're really good as receivers.
71:30You know, Bucky is, Kenneth Gainwell, or Kenny Gainwell.
71:32Sorry, Kenny. That's the way they, you know, that's his calling card, right?
71:36Is to really be used like in the two-minute offense, that sort of thing.
71:40But it'll be interesting. I would say like if I'm buying any of these, it's like Buka.
71:44I'm not really messing with any of the others as far as the receivers go.
71:49Makes sense to me. Okay, let's get to your fifth and final data point here heading into week six.
71:54Because I think this one is probably going to be your most controversial.
71:57Let's hear it. Yeah, so this is the opposite of Jeremiah Love.
72:01But I want to sell high on Denzel Boston.
72:03Denzel Boston is not a guy that the rookie supermodel love.
72:06But I will say he has looked really good.
72:09So if you're a Browns fan, this is not me trying to trash Denzel Boston.
72:13It looks like for what they wanted to draft, which was a perimeter receiver that can, you know, get downfield.
72:18He's doing that. But here's the big challenge, right?
72:21We've got an offense averaging 202 passing yards per game.
72:23That's 21st in the NFL. 1.4 passing touchdowns per game.
72:2620th. And you could argue that's kind of surprising.
72:29Yeah, it is. Because we're doing this with Deshaun Watson right now.
72:32So Deshaun Watson, honestly, with those numbers is kind of, you know, to use a term you used earlier, is like outkicking his coverage.
72:39But right now, Denzel Boston averaging 13.8 fantasy points per game.
72:42He's the wide receiver 17. He will not. He will not finish as the wide receiver 17 this year.
72:47He will not finish as a top 24 wide receiver this year.
72:50And I'll tell you why. Targets per game, 5.6.
72:53That's 37th, guys. Catchable targets per game, 3.6. That ranks 51st.
72:56I could stop there, but I won't. I'll keep going.
72:58Air yards are actually, air yards are his positive, right?
73:0198 per game. That's 12th in the NFL. But catchable air yards, 55.2 per game.
73:05That's 21st. So we've seen this story before. This is a deep threat, right?
73:09That is, the high variance is going in his direction right now.
73:12They're connecting on these plays. But if you really start to dig deeper, like, can it sustain?
73:17Probably not. And we also live in an era where eventually defenses will decide.
73:21They don't want to give that to Denzel Boston anymore.
73:24Defenses are doing that across the league. Why would they not do it with Denzel Boston?
73:28So if you look at his utilization score, it's a 67.
73:31And they have historically averaged, you know, still 12 fantasy points per game, 12.5 fantasy points per game, which is not bad.
73:37But 46% of them finished as wide receiver 25 to 36.
73:40So this is what I'm saying. He's not going to be a mid-range wide receiver 2 like he is right now.
73:46So I would rather profit and trade. And here's the thing.
73:4936% of his comps have finished wide receiver 37 to 48.
73:52So that's outside wide receiver 3 territory. So I think those are his most realistic, like, two outcomes.
73:57And I honestly lean towards he's probably a wide receiver 4 by the time the season's over.
74:02And again, it does not mean that I do not like Denzel Boston.
74:05Like, I think he's done a lot of really nice things.
74:08But it's not a great environment. They're designing all this stuff for Concepcion.
74:12Harold Fanning gets to run free underneath the covers.
74:14Like, these guys are just so much easier, you know, to target.
74:18And the targets haven't been great. They've been okay for Denzel Boston from a percentage standpoint.
74:22But they don't run a lot of plays. And they don't score a lot of points.
74:27And so just when you add it all up, he's not going to finish the mid-range wide receiver 2, which is where he's at right now.
74:34And all this stuff, too. Obviously, Deshaun Watson has been better, I think, than almost, I mean, pretty much anybody could have possibly imagined this year.
74:41And yet, in my offensive efficiency score, they're still 30th, like, in terms of offense.
74:45Now, their run game has really dragged them down.
74:47And I think Quinchon Judkins, much like Cam Skadaboo, probably came back too early from a serious injury.
74:52And now he's in a walking boot again. I think their run game is just probably going to stink all year.
74:58The offensive line has been tough as well. But still, they are 31st in time of possession per drive.
75:03They don't possess the ball a lot. And they don't score a lot of points, to your point here.
75:09Now, this one's tough for me because I think Denzel Boston looks awesome.
75:12He looks good. He looks great. I don't disagree with that.
75:15I do not disagree with that. But this is just hard for me for a guy that, like, I did like him a lot as a prospect.
75:23I called him Diet Coke Mike Evans. And he's kind of looked like Diet Coke Mike Evans so far in the NFL.
75:29So this is really tough from that standpoint. You were the guy that was a Bud Light Cooper Cup on Amon Ross St.
75:35Brown. So, you know, hey, I listened to you.
75:38I was Bud Light Golden Tate on Parker Washington.
75:40And now I feel like all three of these guys might just be the full ABV version of the Bud Light comp.
75:46But we'll see about Denzel Boston. Mike Evans. Obviously, Mike Evans is a future Hall of Famer.
75:51Nevertheless, there's still a lot of reasons to be concerned about the environment for Denzel Boston.
75:55The way he is scoring his points, there's no question.
75:58It's like these deep stop routes. He's shown an ability to kind of get some quick slants.
76:03I mean, I just thought the film was fantastic.
76:05I actually just this is timely because I just charted this stuff this week or literally today for Denzel Boston.
76:11He was so, so good on tape. It's tough to divorce myself from that.
76:14That being said, there are a couple of ways I think things could improve from utilization standpoint for Boston.
76:20Number one, do we get Jerry Judy traded? I know Judy's not doing much, but even if we get his 10% target
76:26share out of here, that could certainly help things for Denzel Boston standpoint.
76:29I don't think that would go to Isaiah Bond, who to me is just not really a needle moving player.
76:35I think that could bring some looks to Denzel Boston.
76:38Plus, if they ever just move him around a little bit more, he's pretty much just an X receiver in this offense.
76:44I think he could do more than that, but those are two total guesses that might not happen.
76:49Like I saw Jordan Schultz, I believe, reported today that the Browns want a third round pick or a fourth round pick for Jerry Judy.
76:56Guess what, folks? They ain't getting a fourth. It's not as our mutual friend Marcus Grant likes to say, it's nice to want things.
77:02You're not getting a third or a fourth round pick as much as you might want it for Jerry Judy.
77:08So he might just stay on this roster. That might happen all season long.
77:11We can't bake that in here. So Boston, definitely.
77:14I can totally hear the argument that this is the best stretch from a fantasy standpoint he will have all year.
77:20It's difficult for me to say that, but I do think it's possible.
77:23From a dynasty standpoint, what are you advising on people to do from a Denzel Boston dynasty standpoint?
77:28I think you should be really excited. And to your point, in week two, they actually did use Denzel Boston more in the role you're talking about.
77:36They didn't move him around, but he was running more in breakers and doing some different things in the shallower areas of the field, intermediate.
77:43And so they have shown a willingness to do it.
77:45And I think that would be the thing that ultimately is probably the best way.
77:49Because even if Jerry Judy leaves, it's like, well, I don't think Isaiah Bond's a needle mover.
77:54It doesn't take a lot to get a 10% target share.
77:57You know what I mean? And so I think the role has to change.
78:01I think they have to start using him in other ways.
78:04And it's totally possible because he's playing fantastic. Right?
78:07And that's how you beat this. It's just that there's so many different things.
78:10But from a dynasty standpoint, I think you should be pretty happy if you drafted Denzel Boston.
78:15I mean, he got pushed down in dynasty drafts quite often.
78:18Like, you might have gotten him towards the middle or end of round two.
78:22And I was in one league where he went at the beginning of round three.
78:26So where you got him, I think you feel great.
78:29I think if we were redrafting today, there's some of those first round receivers he would go way ahead of at this point.
78:35So, yeah, I think if you got him in dynasty, that's still pretty good.
78:39I would say buy in dynasty. I would buy high in dynasty because I think he'll go up from a market standpoint here going forward.
78:46Okay, my fifth and final data point before we go to break here.
78:49Just real quick on this one. Want to give a quick update to the slowest teams in the NFL this year from a pace score standpoint.
78:57This is my metric where I just blend a bunch of different pace stats.
79:01Seconds per play, plays per game, you know, pace, the whole deal.
79:04Okay, so these are the bottom five teams so far.
79:07A lot of teams we should expect here. Dolphins, Seahawks, Jaguars, Falcons, Broncos in ascending order, 32 and on upward.
79:12I think we knew the Dolphins. None of these teams are super surprising, but there's a couple interesting ones to talk about here.
79:18The Falcons, obviously they're slow paced because they're super run heavy, but it doesn't really matter because they are one of the
79:24two most concentrated teams from a pass standpoint in the NFL.
79:27The number one most concentrated team is the Seattle Seahawks.
79:30So doesn't matter for JSN, doesn't matter for Drake, and those guys are going to continue to eat.
79:35The two teams that it is a little bit of a, I would say, small issue for is Jacksonville, where it's pretty
79:41concentrated in the backfield between Basial Tootin, who I still think remains a pretty good buy because it hasn't quite happened yet.
79:47But interested to hear your thoughts on the trade market for Basial Tootin.
79:51Parker Washington, it's not as concentrated as the Seahawks or Falcons with JSN and London, but he's still the one there.
79:57So I think he can survive the slow pace in terms of just how long play calls are taking to get in there.
80:03That was a problem for the team last week.
80:05The issue is for Denver because they're very spread out.
80:08And this is one of if there's a lot of problems for Jalen Waddle, but this is one of the big problems
80:14for Jalen Waddle is they're playing slow and they throw to running backs at the highest rate because Bo Nix is scared
80:20to throw over the middle of the field. So Jacksonville, Denver, any thoughts on those guys from a pace standpoint?
80:26Yeah, I mean, in the Jags, the other thing is their drop back rate over expectation is minus 2%.
80:31So they're also leaning into their run game. Their defense is playing really well.
80:35So you have the slow pace, plus they're running the ball, which we can talk about Tootin here in a second.
80:41So it is tough. So Parker Washington is really the only one right now.
80:45You know, Brenton Strange had a couple of nice games, you know, over the last two weeks.
80:49But I think the nice thing for Parker Washington is the consolidation, to your point.
80:53And we're only seeing Brian Thomas Jr. on the field 60% of the time.
80:57They're going with the heavy personnel stuff. So I think he's pretty safe.
81:01The one that I'm really worried about is Denver.
81:03Like that, that is bothersome to me. I will say their neutral play clock, so seconds remaining on the play clock, whenever
81:09they snap the ball, when the game is within three, either way, is a 9.4, which is 13th.
81:14So that's not necessarily terrible. But, you know, I look at a lot of the things you do, but like plays per
81:20minute, we're sitting at a two, which is slightly below the league average this year.
81:25You know, you look at their regulation plays per game.
81:27Obviously, that's low at 57.4 because of this. And the Broncos, though, they also haven't possessed the ball.
81:3228 and a half minutes on average of time of possession.
81:35So their opponents, that means they're holding the ball 31 and a half minutes.
81:39So it's been like this perfect storm against the Broncos.
81:42And then on top of that, the guy you traded a first round pick for, which is probably the one we want
81:48to talk about the most, is, you know, Waddle.
81:50And he's playing 79% of the pass plays. So I just, you know, it's another one of these guys where it's like,
81:56okay, how about we just play your best receiver 90% of the time?
82:00I'm pretty sure the defenses appreciate this. They're like, oh, we only got to cover Waddle 79% of the time.
82:06And I did talk about this in my preseason write-up on Waddle.
82:09I was like, if I had a concern, it was the fact that he had been so schemed up in Miami, so
82:15much play action whenever he was really scoring fantasy points, so much in motion at the snap stuff.
82:20And right now, the Broncos rank 25th in motion at the snap.
82:23He's playing from the slot, but he's not getting in motion a lot.
82:27Getting some decent play action, you know, looks. Like they're still using some play action, but I don't know, man.
82:32Like the trade-off I thought we would get for some of those things would be more routes because I knew that the
82:38Broncos would probably run three wide receivers more often.
82:41I thought, okay, well, maybe we don't get all the scheme stuff, but if we get like an 88%, 90% route share, Waddle's going to be fine.
82:48So I did move him down to mid-range wide receiver three in the utilization report this week.
82:53Just like, and basically now we're in a, well, the Broncos have to prove that they're willing to play him more.
82:59And otherwise, like you can't, and he's still, he's getting targets.
83:02He leads the team with a 22% target share still, but it's just not enough playing time, especially with, you know, what
83:08you're talking about here, you know, the volume being so low, you know, across the board, but for passing plays specifically.
83:14Yeah. And if we're calling balls and strikes, he's let a few passes go through his hands that he should, but the
83:20big problem too, is just the routes. And this is a great stat from Brett Coleman from NFL pro.
83:25He has his YouTube channel, Brett, Brett's the best.
83:27According to next gen stats, 58% of Denver's dropbacks this year, there's a route breaking to the intermediate middle of the field.
83:33Third, third highest rate in the league. I'm telling you, a lot of those are Jalen Waddle.
83:38Bo Nix throws to that area on just 11% of his dropbacks, third lowest rate in the league.
83:43So that is where we're at with the Denver Broncos.
83:46Okay. We're going to take our last break of the show.
83:49When we come back, we're doing a quick recap on the Yahoo fantasy expert league.
83:53And Dwayne is going to make fun of all of our teams, probably mine included.
83:57Cause I have Jalen Waddle and a Mecca of these guys on the team here.
84:01So we'll see about that. All right, we'll get into that right after this.
84:05All right, we're back. And welcome to the Yahoo fantasy expert league recap.
84:09Yes, we're back to calling it expert league because your boy, uh, won again last week.
84:13I don't like the, I don't like the expert, title Dwayne.
84:16I say this all the time, but because I'm four and one, we should call it.
84:20I mean, we should definitely call it the expert league.
84:23Obviously this is a group of very, very esteemed expert analysts.
84:26Uh, I am holding strong in third place behind Scott Pianowski and Hayden winks because I was able to take down Chris Allen's crumbling team.
84:33Yes. The weatherman himself, it's falling apart for Chris who got off to a strong start with a week one win and hasn't gotten a victory.
84:40Since, uh, the best part about my team Dwayne is that yes, I've spent my life on wide receivers and yet running backs are carrying this team.
84:48Like I would be completely. You did. And Hey, you did get a receiving touchdown from Derek Henry.
84:53Does that count? I mean, that doesn't happen very often, but look what you did.
84:57Look what you did. As we know, as we know, as we know from the intro of the show, Derek Henry and I are close personal best friends.
85:05Uh, and I have been advocating for him to get more screen usage pretty much since I saw him play in the NFL preseason of his rookie year.
85:12And we finally did it. Uh, yes, I would not be anywhere without James cook and Derek Henry who combined for over 42 points.
85:19Meanwhile, Jalen Waddle, Josh Downs and Mike Wilson. Nobody gets over.
85:22I mean, even Aaron Jones, 17 points in the flex.
85:25How much of a fraud do you think my team is Dwayne?
85:28I want your honest opinion at four and one here.
85:31Look, the way I look at it is you love wide receivers and you still built a really good running back room.
85:37So let's just look at the positives, man. Like I, I think that shows your flexibility, you know, and what a dynamic person you are.
85:44You don't just watch receivers. You also know running backs, even though your receiver takes may have sucked.
85:49Well, it certainly could be going better for a couple of these guys on the team here.
85:53There's, there's no question about that. And I'm just hanging on to Brian Thomas Jr.
85:57Who might be putting up a zero on my bench every week.
86:01Cause I'm terrified. He's going to get traded. He's going to get traded.
86:04And then I'll have wanted him on the bench, but I don't know, maybe this is the week I finally give up
86:10the ghost and put them on the waiver wire.
86:13We'll see about that. Yeah. Look, I mean, BTJ, if he lands with the chiefs, you'll feel good.
86:18Maybe, maybe the bills. Those are the teams we always name that never seem to go make these moves, but yeah.
86:24Yeah. Yeah. Let's get BTJ a new home. Like we did Marv.
86:27Like it's just time. That'd be great. Yeah. Otherwise he's running clear out routes on the Harmon team bench here for the rest of the season.
86:34Okay. Scott Pianowski maintains his five and O lead on the league here with another massive victory over Dan Titus who has yet to win a game.
86:41So this was the best team in the league hammer in the team.
86:45That's pretty much going nowhere at this point. So yeah, Scott Pianowski, he's, he's nervous.
86:49He sent out a group message to the, to the league today.
86:52I'll, I'll pull a peel back the curtain on this one.
86:55He, his running, he said he's open for business.
86:58He's trying to trade to save his running back room.
87:01Cause he's got the opposite problem for me where he's got a lot of receivers and his running backs are kind of a mess here.
87:08Dwayne. Yeah. And Kyron like playing the two minute offense.
87:10Now that's been like 15 snaps per game. The last three weeks that's helping him.
87:14He got the 16.6 here, but yeah, David Montgomery now injured.
87:17He does know how to draft receivers though. They didn't do great this week, but Amon Ross St.
87:22Brown is a flowers. Wow. And this was with Trevion in the lineup as well.
87:27So yeah, Scott squeaked one out here to stay five and O, but I see why he's trying to make a trade and look at that.
87:34He did go Jordan love over Brock Purdy. He said, I'm not playing Brock Purdy against the Seahawks.
87:39That's a great call. Listen, Scott knows ball. The, the YouTube comments bullied him for taking Kyron Williams in the second round.
87:45And it's quite literally the reason that his team is five.
87:48I know is the Kyron Williams take at this point.
87:51I don't know. I was actually considering maybe thinking about trading with Scott.
87:54Cause like I said earlier, I've got running backs.
87:57He doesn't, I have, I don't have receivers. He does.
87:59So we'll see. Maybe something happens in the league this week.
88:02Maybe you guys in the YouTube comments can let us know what Scott and I should trade here.
88:07Maybe make it work for both of us. Okay.
88:10Scott and I are, are legitimately great friends. So I don't want to ruin a friendship over this.
88:15Okay. Speaking of great friends, Boone continues his surge to the top over protons, torpedoes here.
88:19Boone had his waiver wire pickup of the year.
88:22Unfortunately, he was able to grab Drake may not me.
88:24I had to settle for the Jacoby Brissett scam, but Boone is definitely coming back after tying earlier in the year.
88:30He's soaring right now. Things are looking great for Boone's team.
88:33I wouldn't say this to his face, but I will say it behind his back.
88:37I'm nervous about Justin Boone coming for me here.
88:40Yeah. I mean, Drake London started the season slow and now, you know, he's got Penix out there.
88:45We'll see what happens with the injury. So that, that probably hurt him to start the year.
88:49Christian Watson love it. 29 fantasy points. And he's got a lava giving him a dud.
88:54Of course that will happen whenever you play the Vikings, but you can't bitch bench, Chris a lava, but the Emmanuel Wilson
89:00one, man, that's a nice, that's a nice spot.
89:02Start from Emmanuel Wilson, giving you 12.2 fantasy points.
89:05I like it. Another team on the rise is Joel Smith who started out.
89:09Oh, and three, but has won back to back games here, including a couple of weeks ago.
89:13He beat me for my first loss. My only loss of the season.
89:17Joel started Tyson. Bajan got 3.18 points and still squeaked out a win.
89:21Thanks to a couple of monster games from Jameer Gibbs, Bucky Irving.
89:24His receivers are also looking pretty solid here too.
89:26Not a perfect team for Joel Smith. Got three quarterbacks on this team.
89:30Obviously he had to do the spot start with Tyson Bajan, but definitely a team that I think is trending in the right direction is Joel Smith.
89:37This is a good squad. I mean, Jameer Gibbs plus Bucky Irving, Nico Collins, Malik neighbors.
89:42Those are all auto starts every week. Then you've got Bryce Young and Jalen Coker on the bench.
89:47So Coker replaces Cortland Sutton and that mess in Denver needs a little help at tight end.
89:51That's the weakness right now with fan and fan is still a top 12 tight end, but it's going to be this boom bust stuff all year long.
89:59I got to say, you're saying a lot of nice things about these last couple of teams.
90:04And I think you kind of backhand complimented my team, but we'll leave that for another time here, Dwayne, when we can, we can discuss that later.
90:11Another team that has been just an absolute juggernaut.
90:14The second place team is Hayden Winks. His team wins an absolute shootout with Max, the onesie position master himself.
90:19This one was indeed a barn burner. I mean, 172 points for Hayden, 160 points for Max who got them.
90:25You got the monster game from Josh Allen. Another great game from Brock Bowers.
90:29Max is definitely making it worth work while going kind of low end receiver on this one.
90:33But Hayden's team looks great. Has some issues, obviously a running back did not matter at all this week as JSN, Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans.
90:40I mean, Hayden is reading reception perception, taking some of these great receivers.
90:44There's, there's no doubt about that. Yeah. And you, you love it whenever you just have to shove Blake Corum in the
90:50lineup and they gave you 14.7 fantasy points. And that ultimately is enough to get this victory here.
90:55Cause Jeremiah love only gave him 2.2. Look, I lost to Hayden in an expert league the week before this one.
91:01So I know what it feels like. Max. Hayden is good at his job.
91:04What can we say? All right. Good at his job.
91:07Even if you didn't show up to work today for good reason, nevertheless was Ray Garvin who did save his season with a massive win over Josh Norris.
91:15Josh is out there talking trash to Scott on Twitter and like, Josh, bro, you're two, two and one.
91:20Know your place, pal. Don't be talking trash to the five and O team in the league.
91:25When I mean, you're, you're out here starting Woody marks and DK Metcalf and Dante Myers.
91:29Like, come on, Josh, let's be serious here for a second.
91:32If he didn't have the Vikings kicker, giving him 16 points, we're not having this conversation here.
91:37But again, great week. I love Josh. I'm just, I'm just kidding.
91:40Ray Garvin. Great week here to get back on track.
91:43Obviously had a monster game from a few players here.
91:46Parker Washington, George Pickens included. Not totally sure that Ray's team is that good, but you know, he's got some good players here that came through.
91:53You got Bijan Pickens, Parker, Washington, Matthew golden. Like you can definitely build around that, you know, JMO.
91:58You just got to live the JMO experience. You're getting five or you're getting 17.
92:02You don't know which, if anyone pretends that they can tell you when it's going to occur, they are lying.
92:07They're lying. You know, there's no question about that.
92:10Okay. Pretty good. Pretty good league. We've got going here.
92:13I think, I don't think there's anyone who's clearly running away with it.
92:16Even if Scott is five and oh, his team's got problems.
92:19Hayden's team is really good. I think my team might be a fraud, but I'm in third place.
92:24We'll see how it goes. There are definitely some teams that I think are starting to wash away here.
92:29Dan Titus, his team, I have protons team, Chris Allen's team.
92:32Those guys have a lot of work to do if they're going to get competitive here.
92:37But nevertheless, that is your weekly recap of the Yahoo fantasy for now expert league, because I'm in third place and I'm four in one.
92:44We're still going to call it the expert league.
92:46That is going to do it for today's show.
92:49Big shout out to you, Dwayne. Appreciate you hopping on a real quick before you go, tell the people about the utilization
92:55port where they can find it, where they can get access to it.
92:58Yeah. You guys can find it over at fantasy life.com, as well as all the tools that I use to make the utilization report.
93:05So you can have the game log view, the season view.
93:08You can look at the leaders. I do the breakdowns on the range of outcomes every single week for you.
93:14We've got an article that tells you how to use the utilization score, how it's different than fan than expected fantasy points, all that sort of stuff.
93:21So yeah, over at fantasy life.com. And then you can check out a weekly.
93:25I do a show about the utilization report and it is over at fantasy football is life.
93:29We changed our channel. We got out from under the old one.
93:33You know, we just, you guys know how the stuff goes on the backend.
93:37So started a new channel back in the summer going really good.
93:40Appreciate all you guys that have already followed. Amazing stuff.
93:43Yeah. The utilization report is great. Dwayne is great.
93:45Appreciate you hopping in today, buddy. I know how busy it is during the season.
93:49So thanks for stopping by. Great show. We'll be back tomorrow at 4 PM Eastern live as always right here on this YouTube channel.
93:56We've got Nate Tice and Justin Boone for a big show tomorrow.
93:59You guys are going to want to check it out again, live at 4 PM Eastern until then we are out.