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1:57Welcome to the show. It's hump day. It's Wednesday, September 16th.
2:01We're into week two. We're getting ready for Thursday night football.
2:04Very excited for that game. And very excited to talk buy low and sell high opportunities here.
2:10This is an opportunity to steal someone from your league, someone who had a bad week one.
2:15Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings. We are here.
2:18I'd like to start with the most amazing stat I've ever seen!
2:22Excited? Oh. Yeah. Skeptical. I feel it. Skeptical. Okay.
2:25Dalton Kincaid had three catches of 30 or more yards in week one.
2:29That's pretty amazing, right? Yeah. Okay. You want some context?
2:32Trey McBride has five in his career. No tight end had more than five all season last year.
2:38These are catches of 30 or more yards. Dalton Kincaid had three of them in one game.
2:43According to Jacob, as I ran this by him, dating back to 2010, the only other players with three, only other tight
2:50ends with three catches of 30 or more yards in one game are George Kittle, who did it twice, Rob Gronkowski, and Dallas Goddard.
2:58Pretty amazing stat, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And we're off.
3:01How you guys doing? Wonderful. Wonderful. Who do you think the most added player in our leagues is?
3:07Ooh. I guess probably. Is it Vele? Because he was only like 7% rostered?
3:12Yeah, I would say Vele. It's Vele. He's up to 46% right now.
3:16Bucks and 49ers, DSTs are next. Kalon Black after that.
3:19And Caleb Douglas after that. Not Emmitt Johnson? I thought he would be up there.
3:24Emmitt Johnson is only 5% added from 44% to 49%.
3:27Interesting. Yeah. I dropped Jonathan Brooks for Emmitt Johnson in a league where I have Ken Walker.
3:32I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to lock that backfield up.
3:36Lock it down. Not a bad move. All right.
3:39Coming up on today's show, I'm going to tell you why Rasheed Rice's average route depth was definitely different, and we'll debate
3:46if it was a concern, but very different. Second highest average route depth of his career.
3:51Why Brees Hall should inspire Devon Achan managers. Why Jamison Williams could be the breakout candidate you wanted him to be.
3:58Why Detroit could beat Buffalo, and why Buffalo could beat Detroit.
4:02And Jacob Gibbs is going to come on, and he's going to Gibbs it up.
4:06News and notes real quick, and then we'll get into buy low and sell high.
4:11We also have the Worry-O-Meter Wednesday. All right. News and notes.
4:15Now we get to a more serious note here.
4:18The former girlfriend of Josh Jacobs wants to permanently seal evidence and discovery materials, and that could make it more difficult for the NFL to obtain the video.
4:27This is not necessarily new news. It's kind of broke over the weekend, but just to reiterate here, the woman who is
4:34involved in this incident, she wants everything sealed. And if the NFL can't obtain the video, you could speculate that that could
4:41lead to an earlier return for Josh Jacobs, but it is all speculative at this point.
4:46Christian McCaffrey. This is also old news, but I don't think I ever said it.
4:50Christian McCaffrey was dealing with cramps for a little bit of the game in week one.
4:56That may have contributed a little bit to his lower carry total, but not entirely.
5:00Ty Johnson, Bill's third down back. He could play this week.
5:04Again, not a single route run for James Cook on third down, even without Ty Johnson.
5:09Detroit cornerback DJ Reed was limited with a foot injury.
5:12Cleveland running back Dylan Sampson's on IR. They signed Jaleel McLaughlin to their active roster.
5:17Heath, do you think it didn't really in week one, but do you think this will lead Dylan Sampson being on IR
5:24lead to more opportunities for Quinchon Judkins in the passing game?
5:28If you'd asked me this before week one, I would have said, yes, it will.
5:32Since it didn't in week one, I'm more skeptical now, especially since they add McLaughlin because they were playing Raheem Sanders on
5:39third downs, who I don't think is a very good option on third downs.
5:44McLaughlin has played that role before. So I would say unknown, but skeptical.
5:48Lad McConkie is, we'll call him day to day at this point.
5:52We'll wait to get an update. We'll get some practice reports and see what Lad McConkie is looking like.
5:58But the Chargers, they did sign Marquez Valdez-Scantling to their practice squad, but they had, they have like three wide receiver injuries.
6:05So that's not necessarily related to McConkie. Washington linebacker Frankie Louvu is hoping to avoid IR.
6:10Really from a fantasy standpoint, I think we're all looking forward to Washington at Dallas this week.
6:15And Green Bay gets the Jets. They're going to get the Jets without safety.
6:20Minka Fitzpatrick, he's out this week. Wide receiver Omar Cooper, rookie wide receiver out of Indiana.
6:25He is out this week for the Jets as well.
6:28He's week to week. All right, here we go with the buy lows and the sell highs.
6:34And also players that, I guess I'll call them buy highs, players that we would draft higher if we were drafting today.
6:41But Jamie, you want to start with Jamison Williams as a buy low.
6:45I'm just curious about your Jamison Williams stats. So why don't you give that first?
6:50Well, I was just doing the research for the Thursday night game, which of course features Jamison Williams.
6:55And I think a lot of people knew this before I did, but he had two horrible drops in week one and
7:02they could have led to like over 60 yards of receiving.
7:06So his stat line was four catches for 45 yards on nine targets.
7:10He almost had six catches and he was tackled like inside the one on another play.
7:15He almost had six catches for about 112 yards and a touchdown.
7:19So he almost had a big game, but it wasn't just that.
7:23He had a 23.1% target per out run rate.
7:26And obviously, you know, to even consider this, you have to overreact a little bit to a one week sample size.
7:32But he had 23.1% target per out run rate.
7:35This is Jamison Williams. That's pretty high for him.
7:38He's had 10 games where he's been higher than that and target per out run rate over the last two seasons.
7:45And in those 10 games, Jamison Williams has averaged 17.6 PPR fantasy points per game, which is awesome.
7:51So that's another way of saying, give this man targets and he will usually produce.
7:55And he should have produced in week one. He had a couple of bad drops, but he could have had a massive game.
8:03Jamie, what are you seeing from Jamo as a buy low?
8:06I really think, you know, just anytime he's going to get opportunities, he's typically going to be somebody we're going to be excited about.
8:14And so, you know, this was the first game that we saw with Drew Petsing calling plays.
8:19And it didn't necessarily heavily favor Sam Laporta. I don't think you should worry about Laporta either.
8:25But it still kept Jamison Williams very much involved.
8:28And so that was the concern is we didn't see this type of target volume for the majority of time that Sam Laporta was healthy last year.
8:36Really, anytime Sam Laporta has been healthy with Jamison Williams.
8:39So I hope it continues. And if it does, I think Jamison Williams is going to reward fantasy managers in a big way.
8:47Yeah, I think the big... I mean, it's kind of weird because if you look at the target share, almost everybody was
8:54a little bit higher than I had them projected.
8:57I think it's going to be very difficult for...
8:59And this could go for Laporta too if it stays like it was.
9:04But 56% of the targets went to St. Brown and Laporta.
9:07And then another 23% go to JMO. And it was just that Gibbs didn't run quite as many routes and nobody else was involved.
9:15Like you want to talk about a concentrated target share.
9:18The top three guys, not Jameer Gibbs. He wasn't one of the top three guys.
9:23The top three guys had like an 83% target share.
9:26Yeah. And remember that, you know, the guy I said that really benefited the most from Laporta's injury in terms of targets last year was actually Jameer Gibbs.
9:35You know, obviously you can make the case it was JMO as well.
9:39But even the two games before the injury, JMO was getting more involved.
9:43Jameer Gibbs, his targets really spiked. But he still had five catches on five targets.
9:48One target for Vakie, one for Brock Wright, one for Isaac Tesla in week one.
9:53I think the one thing, like when you look at a lot of the teams that we love across the board, we
10:00didn't get a Khalif Raymond or a Kendrick Bourne for the Lions.
10:04Like we didn't see Isaac Tesla. Okay. And you know what?
10:07As we go through these, I'll throw out some names.
10:10Would you trade this guy for that guy or whatever?
10:14But let's go to your next guy here, Jameer.
10:16Your next buy low is Jalen Waddle who had three targets, two yards on one catch at the Chiefs.
10:22And a bad drop, you know, so it's not all completely.
10:26The play calling, but you can't give this guy only three targets in a game where you're chasing points and you have a new play caller.
10:34It was just frustrating across the board to watch.
10:37And the Chiefs did a great job. You know, there was a lot of rolled coverage in Jalen Waddle's direction, you know,
10:44putting two guys on him at various times, knowing that he was probably going to get opportunities.
10:50But still, you have to create some chances for a player that you invested pretty heavily in to make some big plays.
10:57And so I think that will change against Jacksonville.
10:59I hope that will change against Jacksonville. Bo Nix was obviously a disaster.
11:04Again, Davis Webb, as we talked about yesterday, was not great in his debut.
11:08So we'll see what changes from Sean Payton's standpoint.
11:11But everybody that has Jalen Waddle right now is frustrated and panicking.
11:15And so it might be an opportunity to go get him if you have a running back or some other player that
11:22you might be able to turn Jalen Waddle into.
11:25All right. But you were concerned about Waddle going in.
11:28And this is exactly... I didn't expect this. No, I know.
11:31I was just concerned that, you know, what we saw last year, really from the two years of Bo Nix, was there
11:38was one player that kind of hovered in the 120 target range and then three or four other guys that were kind of in that 90 plus range.
11:47Only twice in the last two years do we have...
11:51I'm sorry, only twice do we have two guys over 100 targets, you know, for the Broncos, despite the fact that they threw 600 plus passes last year.
12:00So this is just an easy chance that if you see Jalen Waddle and the fantasy managers who have him or the
12:07fantasy manager league that has him, that has some questions about maybe another position and is loaded at receivers.
12:13Let's say they had Jalen Waddle and DJ Moore and Parker Washington, you know, some combination of, you know, these guys.
12:19Jalen Coker, you know, for example, Matthew Golden, you know, like they feel pretty good about the receiving core, but they don't
12:26have a good running back room and vice versa for you, you know, go try and get Jalen Waddle while he's cheap.
12:33Okay. So would you trade Chuba Hubbard for Jalen Waddle?
12:37In a heartbeat. Oh, yeah. You would. Okay. Would you trade...
12:40Hmm. Okay. Would you trade Christian Watson for Jalen Waddle?
12:43I had them ranked so close to begin with.
12:46I probably wouldn't, but you know, that's one that I think that there's hopefully some more upside for Waddle.
12:52Heath, let's get to your bylaws. Drake London and George Pickens.
12:56I think with, and both of these guys like probably seem a little bit obvious.
13:00I've not downgraded their rest of season outlook at all.
13:04So if anybody has, you want to go get those guys.
13:07I think the Drake London, maybe you have a little bit of a window just because Michael Pennix hasn't been cleared yet.
13:14They've got their starting quarterback press conference this afternoon and it's scheduled to be Cooper Rush's press conference.
13:20We're probably getting one more week of Cooper Rush.
13:23I don't know that things will be any better with week two with Cooper Rush, although the matchup's a lot easier.
13:30Um, but I fully expect as soon as they have a starting quarterback, Drake London is going to be a top eight
13:37wide receiver and there should be basically no concern other than the fact that Cooper Rush might start one more game.
13:43The face in Carolina this week. And, uh, that's Drake London, George Pickens.
13:47We talked about it on beyond the box score.
13:50I mean, just no reason not to, not to buy low on the Cowboys passing game.
13:55We saw this almost this exact same game last week.
13:59I think he had three for 30 in week one last year in 2025 and it was 12 straight weeks of at least of double digit fantasy performance.
14:08He scored 17 points in week two. It's the commanders.
14:11It's going to be awesome. If you can do.
14:14Okay. Let's go to your cell highs. Then you're selling high on Ramond Ray Stevenson coming off a game with a lot
14:21of cat, a lot of touches basically, uh, 23 touches at Seattle.
14:24He gets Pittsburgh at home this week, maybe Travion Henderson playing.
14:28So Ramond Ray Stevenson and DJ Moore. That's an interesting one.
14:31All right, go for it. So it was an 86% snap share.
14:35I believe for Ramond Ray Stevenson in week one, that won't happen anymore.
14:39The rest of the year, except for maybe if they get to the playoffs and decide they hate Travion Henderson again.
14:46Um, no. And I thought like, it was a tough matchup.
14:50Seattle is really good. So I don't want to make too much about this, but it looked a lot more like pre
14:572025 Ramond Ray Stevenson than 2025 Ramond Ray Stevenson.
15:00And I wouldn't be surprised if he's just not as explosive or good as he was last year.
15:05And that gives Henderson a little window to get more touches.
15:09They desperately, desperately need speed on this offense, especially with AJ Brown out and Henderson's about the only guy that can bring that.
15:16Okay. So Stevenson and DJ Moore will get to in a second.
15:20Let's talk about who you would prefer to Ramond Ray Stevenson.
15:23Um, yeah. What do you like? Who are some guys that maybe who would be looking to sell Stevenson for?
15:30Well, I mean, it's not generally one-to-one running back trades, but I think I had him around RB 22, um, in the
15:37draft season or 23 and, and he didn't go up any for that.
15:41I think Bucky Irving was a guy that was right in his range.
15:45I strongly prefer Bucky Irving. Bree Sol, like if you could get Ramond Ray plus something, um, for him, Jeremiah Love.
15:52Okay. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Maybe you make a package deal, get one of these really good bylaws, maybe turn Ramond Ray and
15:59something into Drake London or George Pickens, something like that.
16:02Uh, DJ Moore had five catches, a hundred yards and a touchdown, maybe slightly fluky with the touchdown, uh, eight targets at
16:09Houston in his first game as a bill. And now you're saying sell high on DJ Moore.
16:15Yeah. I just, I think that we're probably going to see a higher run split in most games than we did against the Texans.
16:22I think you can probably take the under on DJ Moore averaging 20 yards per reception.
16:27It was a awesome game for Dalton Kincaid and the touchdown and Khalil Shakir didn't go anywhere.
16:33He had six targets in this game also. So I think it's at the very least a three headed attack.
16:39They, they want to throw the ball to James cook more.
16:43It might be a four headed attack and the touchdown was fluky.
16:46It's interesting though. I mean, he gets eight targets on 29 pass attempts in his first game.
16:52He scores a touchdown against Houston Texans. He was only started in 61% of leagues, DJ Moore.
16:57So how high are we selling here? Like you got to get what a second round value for him at this point, third round.
17:05Oh no, I dig a third round value. Okay.
17:08Okay. You could probably turn DJ Moore into Colston Loveland.
17:11If you have, you know, tight end, maybe to throw in with it.
17:15I mean, I think you, I think a lot of people would sell Loveland for DJ Moore straight up based on some of the comments I've seen about.
17:24Well, I mean, that's fair, but you know, I, I, I, I, I'm very encouraged by DJ Moore.
17:30You know, I mean, look, the, the touchdown was a little fluky and, and granted Heath is right.
17:36They're going to be a little bit more balanced, but first game also with a new coach slash the guy who maybe
17:43wanted to throw the ball a little bit more last year and throw the ball in some different situations.
17:49And you saw that. So I think that's encouraging for the entire bills offense.
17:53Okay. And let's go to Jamie's sell highs. Just to recap real quick here.
17:58Jamie said, buy low on Jamison Williams and Jalen Waddle.
18:01Heath said, buy low on Drake London and George Pickens.
18:04Heath said, sell high on Ramondre Stevenson and DJ Moore.
18:07Jamie's going to tell us who he wants to sell high on, but first we're going to take a break.
18:14Jamie's got two running backs, two running backs who were in the rounds, probably four to five, four to six range by the end of draft season here.
18:23And then we'll tell you about the players who really stood out in week one and we're going to draft them higher.
18:30If we were drafting today, we're buying into their early season performance.
18:33We'll be right back with those names on fantasy football today.
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21:54Okay. Jamie says sell high on David Montgomery who had 20 carries in week one and Cam Scadaboo who had 18 carries in week one.
22:02Jamie, why would I sell high on guys who are getting me 18 and 20 carries?
22:07Well, I mean, you're not giving them away. So these are the type of players I think you try and go get
22:14a Jalen Waddle or Drake London or George Pickens or some of these receivers that struggled if the other manager has this
22:21plethora of receivers on their team and can, you know, need and need some help at running back.
22:27This was what we hoped for David Montgomery was to find the end zone.
22:32We hoped that he was going to lead the team in carries.
22:35Clearly 60 yards rushing is not great. And we know the bills run defense is not great.
22:41So when the touchdowns are not there, and I did love the fact that he had three catches as well, but when
22:48the touchdowns are not there, you're going to have some empty stat lines.
22:52So I just think you're maximizing a player that may have been a borderline starter for you or potential flex slash bench
22:59player that you can turn into hopefully a great starting option while his value might be at the absolute highest and Scadaboo
23:06kind of the same situation like this worked out really well for him or has worked out really well for him because
23:13we didn't know what they would do with Najee and made him a healthy scratch.
23:18We didn't know what they would do with Tracy and he fumbled again.
23:22And then now it's kind of Devin Singletary in this backup role and then playing on passing downs.
23:28The fact that Scadaboo had very minimal involvement in the passing game, certainly no stats in the passing game is extremely discouraging.
23:35And so if you just look at it and say, oh, he scored against Dallas, he had 18 carries.
23:41Maybe you could turn that into a superstar again at another position or buying low on another running back with a package.
23:48So like, for example, could you turn him into, if you still believe in Devon HN, that's not a bad move to
23:55try and go make, you know, here, I'll give you Scadaboo and for Devon HN, or maybe same thing with James Cook
24:02coming off a disappointing game as well. So these are the type of running backs I think you could turn into other quality players.
24:10And in the case of Scadaboo, we know that there's the injury concern as well.
24:14So while he's healthy and playing well and getting all this work, maybe flip him for something that could be incredible.
24:21It's a good point of trying to take advantage of Omari and Hampton and Devon HN.
24:26You know, you're not unlikely to be able to sell Scadaboo straight up for Devon HN.
24:31But you might be able to for Waddle. You might be able to for who's another receiver in the range.
24:38You know, if you like Devonta Adams, you know, coming off a bad game.
24:42I don't know if I would. Let me just, just to say for Scadaboo, like one thing I liked about him, and
24:49we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, was his early season schedule.
24:54So this week could be tough, right? At the Rams.
24:57But then Tennessee, Arizona, at Washington, New Orleans. I mean, I think he's going to score some touchdowns in these games.
25:04Listen, when he's out there and knowing that the workload, if this is what we're getting, is this, you're very encouraged.
25:10Yeah. But injury concerns still have to be there for him.
25:14And what happens when they're chasing points? Yeah. Yeah.
25:17Yeah. And the zero catches is definitely something that that's a concern.
25:20Dan, Dan is hopeful that they'll get him more involved in the passing game because he was so good there.
25:27But he was on pace for 60 catches last year in his, in his games with a normal snap share.
25:33And he had zero in week one and didn't play on third down even before Tracy was removed.
25:39Okay. So David Montgomery, who do you like better, by the way, Montgomery or Scadaboo rest of season?
25:45Still Scadaboo, but it's close. Yeah. And if you guys were drafting today, would you take Jamison Williams first or who Jamison
25:52Williams, Montgomery, Scadaboo, who'd be your first pick? Jamo.
25:55Probably Scadaboo. Okay. Now let's talk about players. We would draft higher if we were drafting today.
26:00Ooh, Jamie got a long list. You got six guys here.
26:04Who's the headliner? Took all of them. Took all of them.
26:07Who's the headliner for you? For me personally, or just what I would recommend?
26:11For you. Who's the guy who made the biggest impact on you in week one?
26:16Probably Bucky. You know, I, I mean, I, you know, had expectations for Caleb Williams.
26:21He exceeded them, but I thought he was going to be a top 10 quarterback challenge to be top five guy.
26:28You know, Bucky, I was concerned about, you know, I didn't know what they were going to do with him in terms
26:35of goal line opportunities and passing down work. We don't know the goal line stuff yet, but the fact that he was
26:42so good in the passing game and Kenneth Gable was so uninvolved, that's the most encouraging thing for me.
26:48And so if, if, and, and you mentioned this, you know, just in the way that he looked like he looked awesome.
26:55And so that's, you know, something that you can say, okay, maybe he's back.
26:59And maybe the fact that the Bengals run defense, which I think we'll find to be very good as the season goes
27:06on is going to stifle a lot of running backs.
27:10He was able to overcome it and still have a very solid game.
27:14So he's probably the one that if, you know, I got to a point where I was drafting him in the fourth
27:21round after watching him like, okay, you want to take him around too?
27:25Fine. Cool. He looks awesome. You know, worth it.
27:28So the list here for Jamie is Caleb Williams, Bucky Irving, Kyle Monongai, Jalen Coker, Matthew Golden, and Isaiah Likely.
27:34Yeah. Caleb, Bucky, Monongai, Jalen Coker, Matthew Golden, Isaiah Likely.
27:37I'm sure you could throw DeAndre Swift on that list.
27:41I asked. I was taking him in the third round, so I don't know how much higher I would have taken him.
27:48Okay. I asked Jacob and Dan yesterday, who would you take right now?
27:52I guess it was Monday. DeAndre Swift or Devon Achan?
27:55And they did not have the same answer. One said Achan, one said Swift.
27:59Who would you guys take? Achan. I mean, you know me.
28:03I was not very fond of Devon Achan coming into the season.
28:07I'd probably still take Achan just with the hope that he bounces back and plays better than he did in week one.
28:14Yeah. And he had, what, four or five catches, Devon Achan?
28:17He's on the Worryometer, so we'll talk about him.
28:20He had four catches for 30 yards. Okay. So with Caleb, like, it was amazing.
28:25And obviously we know what Ben Johnson said about the scoring record and all that.
28:30What do you guys think about Caleb being the number one quarterback in fantasy this year?
28:35How realistic? More realistic for the full season than from this point forward?
28:39I think it's realistic in the sense that they'll give him the chances.
28:43You know, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson look really good, though, so it's hard to say he's going to be better than those two guys.
28:51When you have Jalen Coker and Matthew Golden, right?
28:54Let's say you have them on your roster. Do you feel like, okay, I can go make a trade.
29:00Like, I took this wide receiver in the fourth round.
29:03I can turn him into a running back because I've got Jalen Coker and or Matthew Golden, and I'm going to be
29:10able to start them most weeks and feel good about it.
29:14But I think there's two scenarios of trying to do that.
29:17You're saying, I'm sorry, to keep Coker? I'm saying, like, you keep them.
29:21I'm not saying they're going to be as good as the player you're trading, but you just feel like, all right, I stole Coker and or Matthew Golden.
29:30These guys are going to be at worst number three receiver.
29:34Like, I'm good. Perfect example. You've got DJ Moore, and he's your wide receiver.
29:38Like, you took him in round four, and so he's your wide receiver too.
29:43And you trade him for one of the round three running backs because you're going to start Coker or Golden all year.
29:50Yeah, basically. I kind of – when you were saying – I'm sorry.
29:54I was thinking you were going in a different direction.
29:57Like, I would definitely try, and if you could, Coker, Golden.
30:01I'm trying to think anybody else that fell in this range.
30:04I don't think anybody's doing Devon Vele. But, like, could you turn that into A.J.
30:09Brown? Because knowing that that manager doesn't have Brown for another six weeks, like, if you have a great roster and Coker
30:16can't crack your starting lineup, but you know by a fantasy playoff time A.J.
30:20Brown will. Would you turn Coker into – who struggled this week at wide receiver in, like, the round five-ish range?
30:27Devontae Adams. Devontae Adams. Yeah. I mean, again, like, if you're never playing Jalen Coker just because you have a loaded team
30:34and that's – you know, I may sound silly for saying this, and you know how much I love Jalen Coker.
30:41Like, he's not going to do this every week, but, you know, he averaged 14 PPR points per game in the final
30:48six games of the season, five games of the season, including the playoffs last year.
30:53And so he's going to be productive, I hope.
30:56Like, yeah, if you could turn him into something that you think is better, you absolutely should be trying to do that
31:03because this is maximizing the player's value while it's at his highest.
31:06Let me ask you guys about Isaiah Likely and his route participation.
31:10And if that bothers you at all, let me just get the stat for you.
31:15It was a lot better than his snap participation.
31:18I believe his route participation was 67%. His snap was in the 40s.
31:22Yeah, like high 40s. So I gave the stat on Beyond the Box score on Monday.
31:27If you look at the top eight tight ends per game last year, McBride, Kittle, Kraft, Bowers, Pitts, Goddard, Laporta, Harold Fannin,
31:34all of them had a route participation rate of at least 75% when they were playing, except for Fannin, who was 71%,
31:41and he was tight end eight per game. Likely was like 67%.
31:45So was Dalton Kincaid, 68%. It's only one game.
31:48But based on last year, you wouldn't have been a tight end.
31:52None of the top eight tight ends had route participation rates that low.
31:56So is this a concern? Because like likely had like a 35% target per outrun rate in week one, which obviously is not going to continue.
32:04I don't think anyway. Well, how high are we thinking Isaiah likely should rank?
32:09Honestly, okay. McBride, Bowers, and I think we probably still say Loveland is a top three tight end, right?
32:15Yep. Is it really unrealistic that Isaiah likely could finish ahead of every guy who was drafted ahead of him at tight end?
32:22Sounds more unlikely if he's going to have a 67% route share.
32:26Well, there you go. I don't think it's unrealistic at all.
32:29Right. Like that group could finish in any order.
32:32And I mean, I guess the top three. I know, you know, Dave and I kept using the same stat.
32:39Like he had a very good track record and a small sample size of when he had six targets or more of what he produced in his career.
32:48It's like nine times, you know, but he averaged over 12 PPR points per game in those nine games.
32:54So can he continue to be a focal point in the offense?
32:58And again, don't expect what he did in week one, but can he give you four for 60 on a weekly basis and then the occasional touchdown?
33:06So he finishes with eight or nine touchdowns. Like that's, I think, on the table.
33:11Five for 60, you know, whatever you think he's going to average from a, you know, yards per catch standpoint.
33:17It's just, you know, Jackson Dart looked great. The offensive line looked great.
33:21You know, they played a Dallas defense that obviously got banged up throughout the course of the game, but may have been
33:29overrated going into it based on the moves that they made.
33:32And so now you're seeing, you talked about the schedule for them.
33:36It might even be better for the passing game.
33:39And so here's this guy that we've been just waiting to see featured.
33:43And hey, he looked great. He did. So it's hard to give up.
33:47And I had actually somebody asked me this morning in a 10-team league.
33:51They don't have a flex, which I hate, and start three receivers.
33:55Should he drop Alec Pierce for Isaiah Leckley? He's the Colston Loveland manager.
33:59And I said, I probably would just keep Pierce because his depth at receiver is pretty bad.
34:05So as a player, I'd much rather have Isaiah Leckley, but he can't play him.
34:09So you've got to make some tough calls, I think, in certain situations.
34:14But I'm so excited about Isaiah Leckley after seeing what he did.
34:17We have a lot of these, but the Giants and the Chiefs might be the two biggest, like going from the Cowboys to the Rams.
34:25Yeah. Going from the Broncos to the Colts. Like they're just almost not even playing the same game.
34:31Yeah, right. Exactly. I mean, the Giants did this against the Cowboys.
34:35But I would think Isaiah Leckley is going to earn more of a route share going forward.
34:40He needs to be on the field. But I just think it was interesting that with Dalton Kincaid's big plays, which you
34:47just can't expect, and with Isaiah Leckley's 34-35% target per outrun rate, which you just can't expect, if you want to turn
34:54those guys into Colston Loveland, I mean, if 100 fantasy managers offered Isaiah Leckley for Colston Loveland, I think 25% of them would get accepted.
35:02You know, that's how fantasy managers work. So I know some of you are sitting at home going, oh, there's no way you could do that or whatever.
35:11But no, there is. I see these trades all the time.
35:15And personally, I would do it. Maybe some of you wouldn't even do it.
35:19Maybe you're worried about Loveland. Personally, I would trade either of those guys for Loveland.
35:24I assume you guys would too. You're saying you would offer likely to the Loveland manager?
35:29Straight up, yeah, to get Loveland. Yeah. I think more than 25%.
35:33Yeah, I think so too, actually. I was just saying that because I didn't want to.
35:38Especially if somebody lost in week one. Heath, the guys that you're excited about that you're ranking higher are the Chiefs backfield, Walker and Emmitt Johnson.
35:46Yeah, I think, I mean, Walker probably should have been in round one.
35:51Jamie was the highest on him. So good job on that.
35:54And Emmitt Johnson, I touted Mike Washington a lot as being kind of ignored in the handcuff range early in draft season.
36:01And Emmitt Johnson should have been right there next to him in round 10 or round 11.
36:07He looked very good also. And if Walker misses time, he's going to be somebody we rank as a must-start running back.
36:14Let's get into Wednesday night or Thursday. Let's get, I'm so confused.
36:17It's the quickest game preview in the history of game previews.
36:21Yeah, start everyone. Right. This should be great. But I think more questions with, no, I mean, there's some questions, right?
36:28Like who's you starting Jameis? Oh man, you can't hit Dave with the game of the week.
36:33I know. Well, not just that, but I need someone to do the na-na-na-na's here.
36:38I guess I'll do it myself. All right. Thursday night football.
36:41Na-na-na-na-na-na. Nah. All right. Sorry. It's Dave's thing. You can't steal it.
36:45I can do it with, I can do it instead.
36:48I don't think you guys can do it. I think he'd let me do it.
36:53Stat of the game for Detroit to Buffalo, because there aren't a lot of tough calls in this game.
36:59But Dalton Schultz had eight targets against Buffalo in week one.
37:03And remember, Buffalo was number one against tight ends last year.
37:06No tight end had more than six targets against the Bills in 2025.
37:10That's amazing. And already in one game, we have more than that.
37:14And also, I remember watching Bills tape last year, how they defended tight ends.
37:19They were obsessed with taking away short area targets, not just for tight ends, but for all positions.
37:24They gave up like the second fewest completions per game of targets of zero to five air yards.
37:30Well, that was about six per game. In week one, they gave up eight of those, which is about middle of the pack.
37:37So something to keep an eye on. I think we could still consider them a tough matchup against tight ends, but I'm not sure.
37:45It's a different coordinator, different scheme maybe. And they didn't seem as obsessed with taking away the short stuff, which is generally where the tight ends live.
37:54So Sam Laporta coming off kind of a disappointing game.
37:57Facing the Buffalo Bills. You know, I think it's a legitimate question about starting or sitting him.
38:02How do we feel about Laporta? Start him. I would start him also, but just expect the potential for another bad game.
38:09And then this is a great by-law candidate if he does.
38:13Okay. Jared Goff or Drake May? Goff. May. The Drake May rankings are very different.
38:18Heath is like fine with it. And Jamie and Dave, last I checked anyway, are sitting Drake May.
38:23Mike is dismayed. May hasn't had a great game in a while.
38:27That's true. I look forward to talking about that one here.
38:31So how about Jared Goff or Matthew Stafford against the Giants?
38:34I go back and forth with these two, but this has the highest projected total of the week, so I'll take off.
38:41I think Stafford is the other guy that I'm way higher than everybody else on, so I'll say Stafford.
38:47Okay. Jared Goff or Trevor Lawrence at the Broncos?
38:50I love Trevor Lawrence this week. I've got Goff higher.
38:53Not a lot of agreement here. All right. Start Jameer Gibbs.
38:57Start Amon Ross, St. Brown. Jamie? The funny thing about all those disagreements is Jamie and I have Jared Goff ranked in the exact same spot.
39:05That is funny. Which is where? 12 or 13.
39:08Yeah, right there. Okay. Yeah, he's 13th for you guys.
39:11He's 11th for Dave. I mean, I think he could score 35 points.
39:15This is going to be a shootout, right? Yeah.
39:18He could be amazing this week, but quarterback's deep.
39:21So wide receiver Jamison Williams here. Jamie, how do we feel about him?
39:25Is he an easy start this week? Yeah, totally.
39:28I think you go right back to him with the hope that if the Bills do what the Bills do, which is,
39:35you know, making stuff on tight ends, we get another seven-plus targets for Jameau, and I think he'll deliver.
39:41You know, hopefully it's not cutting your hair and you lose all your powers.
39:46But I'm still very excited about Jamison Williams after what I saw in week one.
39:51Okay, he's around 24th for everyone. Like, there's nobody on by, so just because a guy's not ranked in the top 15
39:58doesn't mean you shouldn't start him or whatever. And would you start?
40:01I'd start him over Drake London, for example, if Cooper Rush is the starter.
40:06Oh, hell yeah. I mean, I'd start Isaac Tesla over Drake.
40:09No. Would you start Jamison Williams or Cam Scadaboo at the Rams?
40:13I would start Jamison Williams at VPR. If you had this luxury and could think about sitting Travis Achan at the Ravens,
40:20Travis Achan, would you start Jamo or Achan? Travis Achan.
40:23Achan. I would start Achan. I'd just keep an eye on Camaro's status.
40:28That'd make me a little bit more nervous about it.
40:31Yeah. What's his name? CJ Donaldson was their third down back for the Saints.
40:35He kind of... I think he just played the Camaro snaps.
40:39I hope so. Played a lot of snaps, but he and Achan split the third down.
40:44We'll talk about him in Worryometer. Okay, Laporta. I don't know.
40:47It's funny when a lot of people have like two tight ends, but who's the best tight end in this game?
40:54I mean, one of them is Laporta. Who's the best tight end in this game?
40:59Laporta. Laporta. Okay. Laporta or Likely? Likely. Laporta. Laporta or Loveland?
41:02Loveland. Loveland. Start Josh Allen. Start James Cook. DJ Moore or Jamison Williams?
41:07DJ Moore. Oh, yeah. Is DJ Moore just a must start this week?
41:11Absolutely. Top 15 or two. This is the kind of week you want DJ Moore.
41:1654 and a half point total. In fact, Heath, it's a little risky.
41:20You want to sell high on the guy, but maybe wait a week?
41:24You could wait a week. Okay. How about that?
41:27You might get more with somebody looking at the Detroit game.
41:30That's true. Right in front of them. How about Khalil Shakir?
41:34Start or sit? Borderline starter and 3C release. Yeah.
41:37Yeah. More of a flex for me, but that's kind of the same thing.
41:41Yeah. Let's see if we have any questions from the chat.
41:45And by the way, where is... Let's see. Shakir is ranked.
41:48Shakir. What is happening here? I can't find Khalil Shakir.
41:51He's not in our top 48 consensus. I think I have a 47th.
41:55So Dave must be low on him. Man. So starting a guy like Josh Downs or Wondale Robinson or, you know, Carnell
42:02Tate, Jordan Addison over Khalil Shakir, you do that?
42:05Or you just want all the pieces of this game that you can get?
42:10I mean, I think there's pros and cons for all the guys that you mentioned.
42:15It's not like Shakir is coming off a huge game.
42:18He had nine PPR points, you know? So there's plenty of chances here.
42:22You got to consider him third best in the pecking order, right?
42:26And as Heath alluded to, you know, if we get more from James Cook, he could be fourth best.
42:32Well, didn't he have the same amount of targets as...
42:35No, no. He had a great involvement. But it's still...
42:38We know what Khalil Shakir's career has been. And that was at times when he was the best receiver for the Bills.
42:45So I just don't think it's an automatic, hey, I'm playing him over some of these other guys.
42:51And like you said, that even includes Josh Downs coming off a disappointing game.
42:55Wondell Robinson just being on a terrible team. You know, there was a lot of cases, you know, just based on writing the waiver wire column.
43:04Those guys were rostered in more leagues than Khalil Shakir.
43:07So I don't know how many people were dropping them to pick up Shakir.
43:11Okay. And Shakir... I'd start Vele over Shakir. All right.
43:15Let's read some questions from the chat. Goff or Herbert?
43:18Goff. That's contingent on McConkie for me, though. Yeah, I've got Herbert like half a point better.
43:23You know, Goff, obviously the numbers were pretty bad.
43:26Those two drops from Jamison Williams really hurt his numbers.
43:29Those were huge plays. Yeah. Missing Sam Laporta in the end zone didn't help either.
43:34Didn't help you. And you needed overtime for him to get there too.
43:38Right. Yeah. That's one of the biggest things looking at projections this week is like it wasn't just that they went to overtime.
43:46Those teams were already running a lot of plays in that game.
43:49I think the Saints ran 86. Yeah. You should probably chop all of their targets in third, like take a third off.
43:56The Saints were really bad for about two and a half quarters.
44:00And they hit a deep shot to Olave and just got jump started.
44:04Laporta or Michael Mayer if Bowers is out again?
44:07Laporta. Laporta. Jamison Williams or Drake London? You said that earlier.
44:11Who's the quarterback? Okay. If it's Rush, you go Jamo.
44:14Let's say it's Tua. London. Goff or Mahomes? Goff.
44:17Ooh, I think I have Goff like one spot ahead.
44:20DJ Moore or Jalen Coker? Moore. Moore. DJ Moore, Cam Scadaboo, Malik Neighbors, Judkins, or Debo.
44:25Wow. Okay. Moore, Scadaboo, Neighbors, Judkins, Debo, Samuel, half PPR.
44:28Who are you going with? Neighbors. Moore. Who should I sit here?
44:32Neighbors. Jamo Smith, Devante Smith, Christian Watson. Jamo. I would sit, I think I have Watson behind Jamo.
44:38Yep. Laporta or Kittle? Laporta. Kincaid or Fannin? Kincaid.
44:41Kincaid. Shakir or Sutton? Oh, wow. Shakir. I probably need to change that.
44:45To what? Shakir. Bowers or Kincaid if Bowers plays?
44:48Bowers. Bowers. DJ Moore or Luther Burden against Minnesota?
44:51Moore. I've got Burden. Tyler Shuck or Jared Goff?
44:54Goff. Goff. Okay. Okay. And Tyler Shuck this week gets Baltimore, which, yeah, I'm curious to see how the Saints do because
45:01they really struggled for a while against the Lions and the Ravens defense was great last week.
45:06Sit the DSTs and sit down and get ready for the Worryometer.
45:10That's coming up after this break on Fantasy Football today.
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47:10Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah. All right, comment here from...
47:13I think it's great you have to do it by yourself.
47:17Comment here from Jay Gotti. That Jay Gotti? There should be no worrying after one week of football.
47:23I've been knowing this for 20 years. Learn something.
47:25Judkins is the only person you need to be concerned about.
47:29Oh, so there should be worrying after one week of football?
47:33Just Judkins. Just Judkins. Not Tony Pollard. No. I mean, bad offense.
47:36Yeah. There's reason to be worried. You know, we need Worryometer theme music, I think.
47:41We definitely need some theme music for Worryometer. So, we've got to figure it out.
47:46By the way, I've been dying to... Maybe Dan's version of Fantasy Cops?
47:50Uh, okay. No, play the real version. We want to hear you.
47:54I was just killing time. Until I found it.
47:57It's really hard. Worryometer! All right, zero to ten on the Worryometer from Sounds RS.
48:02Colston Loveland. Zero. Zero? I'll say two. Yeah, me too.
48:05No, no, okay, listen. We got this Worryometer graphic here.
48:08Thomas, either... We have to make an adjustment here.
48:11This goes up to a hundred. So, either Jamie and Heath have to give numbers between one and a hundred or zero and a hundred.
48:19Okay, I'll give one and a hundred. Multiply by ten.
48:22I would just... Yeah, well, let's do one to a hundred.
48:25Zero to a hundred now. Twenty-one. Okay. Oh, that's beautiful.
48:29It's very cool. All right, if you want to see it, it's youtube.com slash fantasyfootball today.
48:34All right, we're not worried about Loveland. We broke it down on Beyond the Box score on the Monday episode.
48:40I encourage you to listen to it. I did point out, same stuff, right?
48:45Extremely high average route depth. Still hasn't had a screen pass in his entire career.
48:49So, doesn't get those layup points. Little volatile here.
48:52They're still a run-heavy team. But come on, like, they're going to score two points.
48:57He's going to be fine. Also, Sam's running the Worryometer.
49:00So, don't steal his thunder. Okay, sorry. Sam, good job.
49:03For those of you who don't know, Sam Davis, another one of our producers, doing a great job.
49:09Matt says, Worryometer for Travis Etienne Etienne. Where are we?
49:1215. 31. Oh. All right, I think let's go right in the middle.
49:17Let's go to, like, 23. I think that's in the middle.
49:20Yeah. Good math. Thank you. Thank you. That was excellent.
49:23Bad movie. The movie 23. No one remembers, but it exists.
49:27But, yeah, good Worryometer number here. What do you make of it, Jamie?
49:31Travis Etienne played a lot more snaps than Kendry Miller, but they had the same amount of carries.
49:37And the snaps were pretty even until the fourth quarter and overtime.
49:41This was just a weird one. What do you make of it?
49:44I love the involvement in the passing game. I think it's hard to overlook that.
49:49So, the one thing that we said, and Heath was great at pointing this out in Philadelphia, that Kellen Moore just doesn't
49:56usually involve his running backs in the passing game.
49:59And we saw that. So, is it a matter of he has someone that he trusts fully in that regard?
50:05Along with that, what happens when Kamara comes back?
50:08Because that's something that he's been very good at throughout his career.
50:12So, that would be my biggest concern. They're going to run the ball better.
50:17They're going to have better opportunities. They were chasing points, I think, the entire game.
50:21I know it wasn't very much the entire game, but they were chasing points.
50:26So, let's see what happens against Baltimore. It's not going to be easy to run on them, especially if they get a
50:33little bit healthier in their defensive line. So, worried probably more so in non-PPR than half or full.
50:39But if you tell me that he's going to be this involved in the passing game to whatever split you want it
50:46to be, you know, take the plays off, take the targets off, he's still going to be a big part of this
50:53offense, and hopefully still a big part of the passing game, then I'm going to be okay with it.
50:59What's your take on it, Heath? I think Jamie pretty much said it well.
51:03It was... We think this is going to be an offense that scores quite a few fantasy points.
51:09Travis A. Shannon is the lead running back, but he's not the workhorse.
51:13And that probably makes him an RB too. But this one, I think you could almost do...
51:19Because it's one week. I felt the same way after the buy lows and the sell highs also.
51:24But it's one week. In a lot of leagues, you can't buy low on anybody.
51:29And in some leagues, you could buy low on everybody.
51:32But I almost think the worryometer needs to be like, this is how worried I am.
51:37This is how worried I will be if next week looks the same.
51:41I was taking a lot of A-chan. I thought he was a third-round pick.
51:46And I would have to say at this point, if I were doing it again, I'd probably be more cautious and make him a fourth-round pick.
51:54I just was very surprised that Kendrick Miller got as much work as he did.
51:59All right. From John Gill Fan Club, worryometer on Tony Pollard.
52:0389. 74. Oh, so that's 81 right in the middle there?
52:0681 and a half? Okay. We're in panic mode, folks, on Tony Pollard.
52:10It was bad. They're going to have to play.
52:13They're going to have to be more competitive. Philadelphia this week, probably not.
52:17At the Giants, at Baltimore, Houston, at Indianapolis. It's just some games in there where they could be more competitive.
52:24But it sucked. Not much to say about Tony Pollard.
52:27It looks like last year. But, you know, I can't help but think of the last five games where he was really good.
52:34Maybe don't drop him yet. Don't drop him yet.
52:37He said, what's he on the drop-o-meter, Tony Pollard?
52:40Two. I was going to say one. Okay. Yeah.
52:43All right. This is from I'm Doing My Part.
52:46Mostly worried about Cracklin Oat Bran. Down bad at the moment.
52:49What's our worry-ometer for Cracklin Oat Bran? For me, it's a zero because I have no interest in it.
52:55Exactly. I'm worried that people just will never eat it.
52:58I never even see it, you know? This was Dave's favorite cereal.
53:02Even he ate this. Horrible. It was like, you could tell me the worst fantasy call Dave has ever made.
53:09Yeah. And I would say it doesn't even come in the same stratosphere as saying that this is the best cereal of all time.
53:16Yeah, it's really bad. All right. Here's one. Sean Miller wants the worry-ometer for Devon Achan.
53:2126. 34. If you were drafting again today, where are you taking Devon Achan?
53:26Round two. Let's give him a 30 on the worry-ometer right in the middle, by the way.
53:31There we go. Round two for Achan? After one.
53:34So I was middle of round two. And I would have put Gentie back ahead of him after seeing the way he
53:41looked because I was concerned with the ankle injury.
53:44Late round two. Take Olave over him? Yep. I didn't think it was any more concerning for Achan than it was for Omarion Hampton.
53:52I guess the only thing that I'll say is I was worried about them being a good offense to begin with.
53:58And this was one of their likely winnable games.
54:01And so what happens when they're playing better teams?
54:04Like, it's going to get a lot worse. Yeah, it was disappointing against the Raiders.
54:09So I said earlier in the show, why is Brees Hall inspiration for Devon Achan?
54:14And the 2023 Brees Hall season is the best example of a running back on a terrible offense.
54:2030th in scoring. They averaged 13.9 points per game, the New York Jets that year.
54:24And finishing, he was number two overall in PPR, number three and half PPR.
54:29Per game, he was fifth or sixth in half in full PPR, Brees Hall.
54:33He had 76 catches. And he had, I think, Garrett Wilson was on.
54:37Garrett Wilson had 168 targets. Like, there's not going to be any of that for the Dolphins.
54:43And Brees Hall still had 87 targets and 76 catches.
54:46He scored nine touchdowns. And he just had four and a half yards per carry.
54:51He had enough production to be really good. But in week one that year, Brees Hall scored 14 and a half points.
54:58In weeks two, no, no, no. He scored 15.7.
55:01In weeks two through four, he scored a combined 14 and a half.
55:05So looking at the game log for Brees Hall, it might look like this for Devon H.
55:10There were a lot of really bad games. There were also a lot of really good games for Brees Hall.
55:17It wasn't consistent. And when you're on a terrible offense, I guess that maybe that happens more often.
55:22And I think, like, yes, the Raiders are probably one of the worst teams the Dolphins are going to play.
55:29The Raiders weren't complete pushovers against running backs last year.
55:32And I think their front might be a little better than we expected.
55:36So I'm not sure that was like a cakewalk matchup for a running back.
55:41It was just supposed to be better for usage.
55:43All right. This is for Brandon here. Worryometer on Jaden Reed.
55:4722. We didn't draft him to be a starter.
55:50I didn't expect him to be a starter. So I'm having a hard time calibrating.
55:55I guess I'll say 35. Okay. So that's 28 and a half, I think.
55:59So. Yeah. I mean, with Jaden Reed, like nothing changed.
56:02He didn't play in two receiver sets. He played 71% of his snaps in the slot.
56:07Something changed. Matthew Golden got a 30% target share.
56:10Like being that part-time player of Jaden Reed, if nobody's going to dominate targets, that could, that could work out.
56:17Okay. You could have a high target per outrun rate when you come in and produce really efficiently.
56:22But if they have two wide receivers that we want to start every week, then I think, and you've got Jaden Reed
56:29playing 60% of the snaps, then he's probably going to be dropped eventually.
56:34And Tucker Craft. Right. And Tucker Craft. Yeah. Right.
56:36They're going to have to throw a lot. Now, obviously just because Golden had 11, what do you have?
56:4313 targets? 12 targets. Doesn't mean it's going to happen again.
56:46Right. Yeah. Jaden Reed, he didn't also, doesn't have a carry.
56:50So hopefully he'll get a carry going forward. All right.
56:53A little bit worried about Jaden Reed just because Matthew Golden had such a good game.
56:58And yeah, that could, that could. Jaden Reed or Debo Samuel rest of season.
57:02Right now, Debo. I'll take digs over both. Yeah.
57:05I'll take digs over both also. Jaden Reed or Quentin Johnson rest of season?
57:10Quentin Johnson. Yeah. I'll, I'll stick with Johnson for at least one more week.
57:14All right. Speaking of which, Pete Farmer says, Justin Herbert, Worryometer.
57:18He's my QB1 and I'm terrified. I mean, to me, it's an unknown with the McConkie injury.
57:23Like you lose McConkie, it's not great. So with McConkie, 15%.
57:27Without McConkie, 25. 42. 42. No, it's just a difference of opinion.
57:30I think on Herbert, his numbers absolutely plummeted when McConkie left that game.
57:35Like about half as many yards per attempt went from about 10 to about five, something like that.
57:40It was crazy. So, all right. We'll keep an eye on that situation.
57:44And then the last, this is the most interesting one, I think, is Rasheed Rice from Wizzy.
57:50Rasheed Rice on the Worryometer. I do have a lot to say about this, but you guys go first.
57:5621. That sounds, that's in the not worried section.
57:59So I think that sounds right. And he is definitely somebody who, he may have the largest delta between what his current
58:06Worryometer is and what it will be if he's bad in week two.
58:10Okay. But I'd probably say 15. All right. That's fair.
58:13You guys are not worried about Rasheed Rice. I am a little more worried.
58:18I think people are feeling like he doesn't look like the same player.
58:22And I would have to agree. I thought he looked absolutely terrible, looked slow, and also just weird, a weird game for him.
58:29Rasheed Rice, he had an 8.1 average, 8.1 yard average route depth.
58:33He's usually around six. This was the second high, I think the second highest average route depth of his career.
58:39And he hasn't been anywhere near this since the beginning of his rookie season.
58:44He played less in the slot. He had a 25% slot rate.
58:48He's usually around 40%. I don't really know why he was used differently, but he was used differently.
58:53And he shouldn't be used more downfield. That's just not what he does.
58:58It's hard to judge him necessarily on his routes.
59:00What you want to see from Rasheed Rice is what he does after the catch.
59:05And since he only had, what do you have, two targets in this game?
59:10You couldn't really judge it. That one touchdown, I didn't think it was on him.
59:14I thought it was pathetic defense. But I know that there are some concerns out there for Rasheed Rice.
59:21And I'm with you, honestly. Because I thought he did not look like the same player.
59:26But again, kind of hard to tell because he wasn't running the same types of routes.
59:31And he didn't have the chance to do anything after the catch because he only had two targets.
59:36Last year, he played the Broncos. He had 9.8 PPR fantasy points on nine targets.
59:41Nine targets? He got two targets. Yeah, the very next.
59:44Well, I think what did the Chiefs have this year that they didn't have last year?
59:50Yes. And passion with Holmes. And that should factor into only 27 pass attempts from a Holmes.
59:55I learned that. The Broncos didn't play competitive football.
59:58And maybe the Colts won't either. But funny enough, he played the Colts the very next week after he played the Broncos last year and scored 22 points.
60:07So, this defense for the Colts doesn't look very good at all.
60:11If he's bad against the Colts, then we can start worrying.
60:14I mean, look, he had a very disjointed offseason again.
60:17He looks sluggish in camp. So, that's not encouraging.
60:20But at the same time, is he working himself back into shape?
60:24Hopefully, that'll be the case. There's definitely a buy-low window here if you still believe in Rice.
60:29So, to go back to the Coker golden type of receivers, could you turn one of those guys and maybe something else
60:36into Rice if you still believe in him? I think that's an easy trade to make at this point.
60:43So, it's a matter of just where you're at on both sides of it.
60:47If you have Rice and you still believe in him.
60:50And I know, Adam, you were excited about him this season.
60:54I was. I'm disappointed. I'm nervous. I don't really care that much about preseason.
60:58This is a guy I wish I had been able to see a little bit in the preseason.
61:04And here's Fantasy Points data. You know, they're charting all this average separation score versus target per route.
61:10So, he's ass. He's ass, yeah. So, he has a very low ass in this, which is average separation score and a
61:17very low target per route run rate. If you're looking at this graphic, if you're not looking at it, it's a scatter plot of all these wide receivers.
61:26And so, for example, Stefan Diggs was great. He had a ton of separation and a high target per route run rate.
61:33Mike Evans, Garrett Wilson, same thing. Josh Downs, if you see him on the bottom right.
61:38Josh Downs had a ton of separation, but a low target per route run rate.
61:43And you could look at that and be like, okay, that's encouraging.
61:46At least he was getting open. Rasheed Rice has the absolute worst data of all these wide receivers.
61:52He had very low separation and an extremely low target per route run rate.
61:57So, and also another guy that I think you should be concerned about.
62:01I went back and I watched every route of Chris Godwin.
62:04And he definitely looked better than he did last year.
62:07Definitely. But he also didn't look like some dynamic great receiver like he used to.
62:12I think Godwin looked good enough where he just needs to get more targets.
62:17He'll be fine. I don't think he's going to be as great as I thought he was, but that could be a weak one overreaction.
62:25But Rasheed Rice, I mean, this is a very concerning chart here.
62:29Why they used him differently? I don't know. Go ahead.
62:32Yeah, I've been looking. Well, I think they used him differently because Pat Sertan and like they didn't need to.
62:38He wasn't lined up on Sertan that much. I mean, it wasn't.
62:42But it's also a different coordinator. I mean, you know, I know it's Andy Reid still, but it's Eric Biannemi also having a say in this.
62:50And he likes his receivers to be more downfield than what we've seen in the past.
62:55And that's going to change a little bit. That shouldn't be Rasheed Rice.
63:00Like Rasheed Rice is not the guy you use downfield.
63:03It shouldn't be. But when you're talking about getting your best players on the field, and we know Worthy has some issues
63:10and Taekwon Thornton is, you know, a guy that I think everybody knows what he's doing when he's on the field.
63:16Like you got to do a little, you got to be a little bit more creative with, with Rice.
63:22And it's certainly when you get him out of there, when you're drawing two people, it's going to open up things in the run game.
63:30So this is going to be a discovery game, you know, as a Rice manager or somebody who's interested in Rice.
63:37And so the run game was exceptional. And I think that's the biggest takeaway is like, if they're going to continue to
63:44do that, yeah, it's going to be a bad year for Rice.
63:48Because he's not going to have to throw as much and they're not going to have to rely on him to be that guy.
63:56So I don't know. I'm not ready to give up on Rice yet.
64:00I think this could be a great second half of season type of player as he gets in better shape because he looks out of shape.
64:08So let me just, since I'm the worried guy, I would, I would definitely try to trade like the Jalen Cokers and
64:15Matthew Goldens of the world and something for Rice.
64:18But I don't think I would trade DJ more for Rasheed Rice.
64:22I'm worried enough. That's fair. This doesn't have the targets.
64:25It doesn't make you feel better about the targets concerned.
64:28And I've been searching and searching. Jacob probably just remembers it from his, his brain.
64:33But from what I recall, Rasheed Rice last year and even the year before his average separation score has been the worst
64:40of the wide receiver ones and maybe the worst of the wide receiver twos.
64:45Well, now it's the worst of the wide receiver fours.
64:48Jacob, what do you think of, you said you wanted to talk about Rasheed Rice's ass.
64:53I don't remember saying that. Putting words in your mouth.
64:56Did you want to talk about Rice's ass or Kayshaan Booty?
65:00Booty. Yeah, honestly. I'm sick of talking about Rice.
65:02We were role for Rice in week one. Out of the slot, a lot more than normal.
65:08Career low slot rate. He also had a career high average route depth.
65:12I don't know if y'all have talked about this enough.
65:15Yeah, I did. I got a little Jacob Gibbs, you know, advanced metrics streak in me.
65:20Let me ask you this. What level of receiver would you be trying to trade Rice for that would be realistic?
65:27Like if I had Rasheed Rice? Like would you take Jameson Williams for Rice right now?
65:32No. I just updated the rest season rankings. I have Rice at 25 and Williams at 27.
65:38I think that's the right range. Devontae Adams or Rice?
65:41I have enough concerns about Adams. I'd give Rice another go.
65:44But I guess... Evans or Rice? Evans. Oh, Rice still.
65:47Okay. So Evans has the Rice role from last year.
65:51I'm trying not to overreact, Jamie. My gut reaction is Rasheed Rice could be one of the biggest busts in fantasy.
65:57But I know that it's only one week and you can't overreact.
66:01So it's worry-o-meter. It's not drop-o-meter. It's not get rid of-o-meter.
66:05But like some guys are going to be busts.
66:08Rasheed Rice to me had one of the most concerning week ones of anyone in the NFL.
66:13So this is your new Chiefs take. Have you rescinded your old Chiefs take or are you sticking with that one?
66:20I mean, I still think their passing game is garbage.
66:23No, the take was they are going to miss the playoffs and Andy Reid's going to be forced into retirement.
66:29I'll stick with it for one more week. Okay.
66:32Jacob, dazzle us with some stats. What do you got for us?
66:36Yeah, I don't know. Maybe you've already stolen my stats.
66:39Sorry, I just got here. So I haven't caught the rest of the show yet.
66:44I do think it's interesting that Walker had four designed targets, designed her first three targets in week one.
66:50So only B. John Robinson, Ashton Gentty, Chase Brown, and Travis Etienne had more at the running back position.
66:56That was part of the reason I think some of us might have been a little bit worried about Rice is that
67:03not only is Walker just getting more backfield work in terms of carries than previous backs in this offense, but also that
67:10he could get some of the design targets and stuff like that that's gone to Rice in the red zone previously.
67:17We do see him score on a designed red zone target in this game.
67:21And then my other favorite Walker stat, there's so many.
67:24He gained positive yards on all but one carry, which is really impressive for somebody who people have criticized a lot for
67:31being consistent and taking negative runs and stuff. Um, but my favorites that is that he had, you might've already said this
67:38one, 173 yards rushing and was charted with negative six yards before contact.
67:43According to true media. Amazing. One of the worst tackling performances.
67:46Yeah. Yeah. The Broncos were embarrassing. Oh, he's so good.
67:49Um, where are you at rest of season? Like I, I think there are only a couple of guys you could definitively say you'd rather have than him.
67:58Um, I did, I did a rest of season rankings update on beyond the box score and I put four guys ahead
68:05of him, but I think you could easily just put two.
68:09Yeah. Yeah. Obviously the first two. Yeah. Gibbs B.
68:12John still Taylor for me. He's right there after that.
68:15I mean, he was, he was there for me preseason.
68:18So I think I had him seventh, you know, so I'm, um, extremely curt.
68:23I've got him sixth. Did you talk about the dog and Kade usage in terms of like blocking more?
68:29No. Okay. I think this is actually really relevant.
68:31Like this makes it a lot more believable to me that Kade might break out this year.
68:37Um, so he was on the field for 85% of the Buffalo bills plays that involved two or more tight ends in
68:44week one in healthy games last year. That rate was 65%.
68:47So 85% is a huge jump. Um, in 2025, he was on the field for only 52% of design run plays with
68:54two or more tight ends on the field. And in week one, he was out there for 13 of 15 of those plays where they're not hiding him.
69:03They're letting him be out there for the big personnel plays when they're running the ball and that allows him to be a full-time player.
69:11Um, the other thing that was relevant is they ran three tight ends on over 40% of their plays last year.
69:18The Rams led the league with a 31% rate.
69:21The next highest rate was 13%. So it was the Rams and no one else was even close.
69:27And we saw like Ben Johnson start to do some of that down the stretch 41% for Joe Brady in week one.
69:34Joe Brady also cranked up the priest, that motion, uh, motion of the snap of the football play action rate, all the
69:41cheat code stuff that we like in terms of boosting efficiency.
69:44Joe Brady has been doing that more and more every year.
69:48Um, he just doesn't really get the credit. People act like he's a Josh Allen merchant, but it's like, I don't know.
69:55He's a young guy who seems pretty smart and has now got a head coaching job and just put up a ton
70:02of points against the fricking Houston Texans. And you obviously have your downfield proceedings that with Kincaid, where he had 30, uh,
70:09yards on three different catches, which is like the most ever for a tight end.
70:14I think that that makes sense. He's out there running routes as like the primary read a lot of the time where
70:21it's like him, two tight ends and key on Coleman.
70:24Yeah. I was going to say key on Coleman, DJ Moore actually was out on the field more than Coleman in, in,
70:31uh, the 13 personnel, but Coleman ran four routes out of that formation and DJ Moore only ran one.
70:37All right. What else? Interesting. Um, I like to look at, uh, early in the season when we have like smallish sample
70:44sizes on like rookies and players like that, or in the case of lad McConkey and Zay flowers guys that got hurt.
70:51Um, but we're off to just ridiculous starts, like what their shares were when they were on the field.
70:57Um, and it was a 54% target share for lad McConkey when he was on the field, 60% for Zay flowers.
71:04Um, I was so impressed. Obviously that's not sustainable, but I was so impressed with what Baltimore's offense was doing.
71:10Um, I think Declan Doyle fricking cooked in this game and obviously it's the Colts defense.
71:15So you don't want to overreact too much. Um, but all the levers he was pulling was working.
71:21Lamar Jackson looked totally locked in, totally in control and they were getting whatever they want.
71:26And so to me, like who's this year's Jason, that looks like the clearest, the clearest like emulation of what Jason was
71:33doing in terms of succeeding with all of the play action, the big personnel stuff, a scary run game that was allowing
71:40him to just like have all this space down the field.
71:44That's what Zay flowers look like in week one.
71:47I don't want to just say that we're going to get that all year.
71:51Cause they flowers obviously had a big week one last year and then it slowed down.
71:56Um, but him and lad McConkey, man, they, they're just such good route runners.
72:01They're such good movers. And when you get them in space with a creative play designer, like we saw in week one, they were, they looked unstoppable.
72:09Um, so I'm really intrigued to see how that develops for those two going forward.
72:14Hopefully they are healthy holds on because like, I think either of them could finish as wide receiver ones this year.
72:21Yeah. Hopefully for one of them. So, uh, give me one more stat here.
72:25Um, Antonio Williams is a rookie that I really, really liked for Washington.
72:29Um, and he's one of my favorite stashes. Um, and I don't know if, I mean, obviously he had the big red zone touchdown.
72:37So maybe people are coming around on it, but he didn't play very much.
72:41So I don't think he's been like a popular waiver wire ad.
72:45Um, but he had 44% of the targets when he was on the field.
72:50Um, he was really, really productive. He was one of the highest graded receivers by PFF.
72:55Um, his average separation score, according to fantasy points data was the highest of any receiver in week one.
73:01And this is a guy who shredded in college and looked really, really good in the preseason.
73:06Um, and now he's doing it against pros against the Eagles.
73:10I mean, he was, it was only like five reps or something, but every time he was matched up against Cooper to
73:17Jean, he made him look so slow. Um, I think he's honestly like really underrated player.
73:22And if you're just looking at like the rookie receivers, him and Caleb Douglas for the dolphins are the two that impressed me the most.
73:30Caleb Douglas, this isn't a stat, but that guy was open on almost every single play.
73:35What the heck? I don't know if you've watched it.
73:38He has really good. Yeah. Yeah. So those are the two I have my eye on after week one downfield too.
73:45Not just like these easy little targets here. He was getting open downfield for sure.
73:50All right. Jacob, do you have, do you have anything on DK Metcalf?
73:54No, I need to dig into the Pittsburgh stuff more.
73:57Um, but I don't really want to like, I've watched like 12 games and they're the one that I haven't got to.
74:04I don't know. I have looks. I have something good on DK Metcalf.
74:08If you want to see it's more, more, not necessarily like a stat.
74:12What the heck is this? So DK Metcalf just like, you know, stares into your soul and Adam, sometimes when he's listening
74:19to us, he's very, you know, tuned in. Are those Adam's actual eyes?
74:24It almost looks like AI. Like we copy paste.
74:26No, no, that's, that's Adam. But if you merge the two together, it's really good.
74:31This is what you get. Oh my gosh. That is weird.
74:35That was good. DK Metcalf did have the second most air yards.
74:39Drop more like drop K Metcalf. He should have a big game.
74:42He should have a big game, but, uh, didn't.
74:45He and Jameson Williams are the two where it's like, well, the usage is really good, but the result was horrible.
74:52So like, I don't know if I'm buying that this is going to keep happening.
74:57If it does, maybe it's a breakout. I don't know.
75:00All right, Jacob. Thank you very much for coming on.
75:03Jamie. Thanks, Jacob. Thank you. Adam, stare us into space.
75:06We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.
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