0:00Big show for you here today. Oh, and my God, it is the biggest show that's ever occurred here on this feed.
0:07It is our first full house. Yeah, that's what I'm going to call it.
0:11The full house. Week 1 Sunday Slate Recap. I get you started with a little solo Sunday night recap.
0:16Yeah, some things change here, but more stay the same.
0:19And then I am still talking to myself here on late Sunday night, giving you guys everything you need to know from Giants Cowboys.
0:27My God. The Giants just ran the big boys out.
0:29They sat on the football and they just sat on the Dallas Cowboys and never relented.
0:34Okay, so big impressive win by the New York Giants.
0:37What we need to know fantasy takeaways on both sides of those.
0:41I give you everything in the solo Sunday night football recap.
0:44Then we throw to the rest of the show where it's me.
0:48It's Josh. It's Hayden. It's Ray Garvin recapping everything you need to know from Week 1's Sunday Slate.
0:53We've got massive performances to talk about here. The Bears go absolutely crazy, but some of their mainstay players stay quiet.
0:59I'll talk you through a Bills Texans game where both offenses looked pretty good and the Saints and Lions throughout a very
1:06strange game where a lot of fantasy players did eventually being the key word get home.
1:11Also Cardinals curious. Oh my God. We've never flown higher all that and more cut up on today's show.
1:16Let's get into it. What's going on everyone. I'm Matt Harmon.
1:20Welcome to the Yahoo fantasy forecast and it is.
1:22Oh boy. It is a hell of a night to talk ball the solo live Sunday night football recap.
1:28Yeah, that's right for the other games Thursday Monday.
1:31Even when we have Wednesday. You know Hayden Winks is going to sit in with me, but he's busy over on football 301.
1:37So I am back as we've always been here.
1:40You and I recapping these games solo on Sunday night, but we're doing it live this year, which is extremely exciting.
1:46If you're watching along with us on YouTube right now, make sure you subscribe, leave a comment, you know, chat along here.
1:53Cause we're going to have some fun with these solo Sunday night football recaps.
1:57As we had a really fun and exciting week one.
2:00It was amazing. It was incredible. I mean, I got to say, right.
2:04One thing off the top here before we get into Sunday night football and we will get into Sunday night football, a
2:10very humbling end of Sunday for your boy. I mean, my God, I had a great time all night with, you know, Jalen Coker balling out.
2:18You know, we had my guys, Octavian Wicks scoring a big touchdown.
2:22It was a great day to be me. And, you know, for some of my takes, it was awesome.
2:27I had a, I had a great Sunday and what a humbling end.
2:31It was a reminder that football always will bring you back down to earth because I predicted that the Cowboys would smack
2:38around the giants on Sunday night football. I think I said it to Josh multiple times on the preview show on fantasy
2:44football live this morning and could not have been more wrong because the giants, I think even though they won 28 to
2:5120, I think they pretty much embarrassed Dallas in this game tonight.
2:55And you know, it was, we'll start as we always do here on these solo recaps with the team that won the
3:01football game, by the way, shout out to producer JB great stat.
3:05He pulled before this one, the jets and giants are both one and Oh, it is the first time that they have
3:11both won their season openers since 2009. What were you guys doing in 2009?
3:15I was a freshman in college. Okay. Spoiler alert.
3:18I'm not a freshman in college anymore. I'm much, much older than that.
3:22This was quite a long time ago. This was quite a long time ago, 2009.
3:26Okay. So shout out to the New York teams.
3:29Both of them want to know, including the giants who, like I said, I think they really embarrassed Dallas on this one.
3:36They embarrassed me for, you know, my takes on the Dallas Cowboys here heading into week number one.
3:41And they really did it by, I don't, I say this.
3:44If you guys caught my Malachi fields video where I was making a slot bowl dinner while my wife was out of
3:51town, it was a little solo Instagram, Tik TOK.
3:54I put it on Twitter style video. I called Malachi fields, like a slot bowl wide receiver complimentary.
3:59You know, what I mean by a slot bowl is it's leftover sweet potatoes.
4:03It's leftover chicken. It's like a steamed vegetable. You throw it on a bowl and you eat it and boom, there you go.
4:10Okay. It's, it's not flashy, but it's nutritious and it gets the job done.
4:14And I kind of feel like this entire victory for New York tonight was like a slot bowl performance on offense by
4:21the New York giants, not flashy, but they got the job done.
4:24Okay. Check this bad boy out here. We're showing on the screen.
4:28If you're watching along with us on YouTube, if you're on the audio feed, I'll read it off for you here.
4:3433.8% of their snaps in 11 personnel, according to Sumer sports for the New York giants tonight, that was almost 13% lower
4:41than the NFL average 12.3% usage in 12 personnel, 18.5% in 21 personnel, 13 personnel, 3.1, but 22 personnel, 20%.
4:47Like the giants got the big boys on the field and said, you are not going to get in our way.
4:53And they did not really get in their way all night.
4:56Did this newly remade Dallas Cowboys defense with Christian Parker and all these new interesting players on the other side of it.
5:03They forgot that running backs are eligible wide receivers in not just today's NFL, but forever in the NFL, the Cowboys, I
5:09believe they allowed the giants to convert nine of 10 for a third downs for first downs in this game tonight.
5:15Embarrassing effort by the Cowboys defense here. This wasn't as disgustingly horrible on the backend as Dallas's defense was last year, but
5:22it was really up in the front seven. What were we doing here?
5:26At one point, Nate Tice had the stat that the giants Jackson dart five of five for 40 yards and two touchdowns
5:32when throwing to the flats to the flats folks.
5:35That's what happened tonight with the Dallas Cowboys trying to stop this giants passing game again, mostly to the running backs.
5:41Looking at the box score here really tells the whole story.
5:45When we're looking at these running backs here, Devin Singletary for catches, 22 yards and a touchdown in this game.
5:51Pat Ricard really the name we haven't mentioned yet, by the way, Pat Ricard, just this 300 pound monster fullback that followed
5:57John Harbaugh from Baltimore to New York. This was something again, I was skeptical about just the brain trust, right?
6:03Between the great at some point we'll, we'll flash through here.
6:06Great tweet. Well, it didn't age well for Steven Ruiz.
6:09My buddy over there used to be with the ringer.
6:12He's now with Fox did not age really well, but you know, just the brain trust of Matt Nagy, Greg Roman up
6:19there in the booth for the New York giants, man.
6:22Those guys cooked up a pretty good game plan with just these big heavy personnel bodies, Pat Ricard in there as the
6:28fullback, just mashing these guys over 17, 18 carries for 81 yards and a touchdown for Cam Scadaboo.
6:34He was the lead running back by a mile.
6:36Tyron Tracy made another mistake in this game. I mean, Tyron Tracy, it's like, come on, man.
6:42Every single time we get him on the field, it's some level of a mistake for the New York giants running back.
6:48You know, Cam Scadaboo kept that ball moving, man.
6:51He just kept things moving down the field. 18 touches in this game.
6:55As I mentioned, 60% of the running back rushes, running back touches went to Cam Scadaboo.
6:5969% of the running back rushes went to Scadaboo.
7:02He had 67% of the touches inside the five yard line as well.
7:06Great first game back. As Mike Florio says here, you'd love to see more pass game usage.
7:11I agree. You would love to see that, but for now, really good.
7:15Just kind of showing for him in this big mauling offense that we have here with the New York giants.
7:21And, you know, ultimately I do think Singletary is going to continue to mix in here, mostly on passing downs.
7:27He has, you know, 12 routes, same as Cam Scadaboo in this game.
7:31More targets. Of course, as I mentioned, he was just a monster in the flats.
7:35That's unbelievable stuff there from Cam Scadaboo and Devin Singletary.
7:38Just kind of combining to be a pretty useful tandem.
7:41I would say from a fantasy standpoint, you know, this is not great for Cam Scadaboo.
7:46It was like running back one ceiling, but he can be a very viable running back two.
7:51If that's what you're looking for, like it's different usage than what we got from him when he was smoking people at one point in his rookie year.
7:59It is definitely different. It's less check downs and more of the true running back work.
8:04But I think this is probably good enough if we're looking at him as a, you know, we'll call him, like I
8:11said, running back to 3.08 yards after contact per rush attempt for Cam Scadaboo.
8:15I think that really tells you what he was doing here.
8:18That's sort of what we expected in the passing game for the New York Giants.
8:23You know, I think Jackson Dart just was careful with the football all night.
8:27Didn't really put things in harm's way. Wasn't too reckless overall.
8:30I think that was good to see. Really catchable footballs all night from Jackson Dart.
8:34I think he throws a really nice catchable football for these pass catchers.
8:38He kind of lays things out pretty well. I do think, you know, there are some things you can still point at
8:45his game, little nits to pick here and there.
8:48But in a game like this where you're getting these big bodies out on the field, you're getting high leverage looks.
8:54You're going to go ahead and just throw that catchable football out there and continue to keep the ball moving down the field.
9:01Malik Neighbors did play in this game tonight. Haven't mentioned his name just yet.
9:05He was targeted on 44% of his routes. Average over three yards per route run.
9:09Him and Isaiah likely were the featured players in the passing game.
9:13Not a full compliment of snaps for really anyone in this game.
9:16Darnell Mooney leads the team in routes. But it was Neighbors.
9:20It was Neighbors. It was Isaiah likely. And I think that we're going to continue to see that going forward.
9:26I mean, Neighbors is only going to get healthier as we go through the season.
9:30He made some people miss in the open field today.
9:33He probably had another one where he was really upset that he kind of got tackled at this weird angle and brought down there.
9:40I think we're going to only see more and more from Neighbors.
9:44Nine targets, six catches, 69 yards. Again, Isaiah likely was the other featured player here.
9:48Target on over 50% of his routes. Eight targets, 15 routes in this one.
9:52Two touchdowns. You do want to see the playing time bump up for likely for sure if he's going to continue to be this fantasy tight end one.
10:01That being said, this is a really strong debut from him.
10:04And a lot of just work out in the flats, out in the open field, as we mentioned here.
10:10So yeah, games with two-plus touchdowns for Isaiah likely and over 70 yards were shown on the screen.
10:15We got one here with the New York Giants.
10:18We got zero with the Baltimore Ravens. So nice signing him and Patrick Card following John Harbaugh from Baltimore over to New York.
10:25Again, I would say the fantasy takeaways here is you kind of know that there's no other wide receiver in the mix for this team.
10:32Darnell Mooney wasn't that guy. My guy, Malachi Fields, had a couple key catches, key blocks as well.
10:37That's good to see from Malachi Fields. But even him, he's just going to be a role player on this team.
10:44Odell Beckham obviously is kind of a mascot slash role player for this team as well.
10:48It really is just neighbors and Isaiah likely and the rest of the guys will keep moving from there.
10:54Now, of course, I am interested to see what will happen for the Giants if and when they get pushed into a different game script with this team.
11:02Will we see what it looks like when Jackson Dart has to open it up, when they have to play more 11 personnel?
11:09But I think what we saw tonight is that they want to live with these bigger bodies on the field, create mismatches,
11:16and really be a physical downhill run team. And for one night here in week one, they absolutely lived in the identity
11:22that Greg Roman wants them to live in, that John Harbaugh wants them to live in, that Matt Nagy is certainly willing
11:29to go along for the ride with that whole operation.
11:32So definitely a great debut for the 2026 New York Giants.
11:35Made me look like an idiot for saying they were going to get worked on national television.
11:40Speaking of making me look like an idiot, let's talk about the Dallas Cowboys here who definitely did not shine in this game tonight.
11:47I mean, my God, like I said, defensively, it was brutal.
11:51Okay, but let's talk about some of the miscues on the offensive side here.
11:55You know, Dak's interception was definitely a turning moment in the game.
11:59George Pickens letting a couple passes slip through his hands in the game earlier on in the first half.
12:04Those are missed opportunities that you're going to want to get back.
12:08In the second half, the offense, like, what do you really want them to do?
12:12You know, they get two drives. They score on both drives.
12:15That's it. Otherwise, the Giants were just bigger. They were more physical and they just sat on the football and kept it away from Dallas.
12:23I don't really have any big overarching fantasy takes with the New York Giants, excuse me, with the Dallas Cowboys offense here coming out of this one.
12:31Because, I mean, ultimately, I think we still know where the football is going.
12:35It's where the football went tonight. You know, it's still the main players here.
12:39They just didn't have a good night. Guys made mistakes at the catch point.
12:43Dak threw an interception that you can't really throw.
12:46Javante Williams scores a touchdown. That was great. He scores two touchdowns.
12:50One through the air. One on the ground. The one that goes in the second half, I mean, it's just like, come on, dude.
12:57We can't. We can't be doing that. All right?
13:00We cannot have the taunting penalty. I know it's silly.
13:03I know it's needless. But everybody knows it's a rule.
13:06Everybody on earth knows it's a rule. You can't do that.
13:09You cost the extra point. That kick ends up getting missed from Brandon Aubrey.
13:13And there we go. Like, come on. We can't have that, Javante.
13:17But still, obviously, really strong workload for him. He has 12 carries.
13:20Amari Di Mercado, the nominal second running back after Malik Davis went on IR.
13:24You know, he gets two carries. Like, it's going to be Javante Williams all the way.
13:29This is a game that really makes you feel good about Javante because when they fall behind, he has five catches just in his back pocket.
13:37So, yeah, Javante Williams. Feel good about him coming out of here as a running back two in fantasy football.
13:43You know, just a weird game from George Pickens.
13:45You know, a couple mistakes at the catch point here.
13:48Like, George, we have not signed that contract extension yet.
13:51I don't know about that one. I wouldn't call it a perfect outing from CeeDee Lamb either.
13:56But he gets eight targets, five catches, 44 yards, scores the touchdown.
14:00Just a weird game from Dallas here. And I'm hoping that it's nothing.
14:04I'm hoping, like, okay, this offense can just return next week and absolutely get back to work.
14:09We'll see if that happens because this is supposed to be one of those inner circle teams.
14:14We can trust everybody on offense. We know what they're going to do.
14:18And we just keep it moving from there. Now, week two, commanders secondary.
14:22I watched the commanders, and we're going to talk about this later in the show.
14:26Just, you know, couldn't cover people on the back end.
14:29All right. Dontavian Wicks, as I mentioned. Dontavian Wicks, my guy.
14:33He put Mikey Sanders still into a blender in this game.
14:36I mean, it was insane. They couldn't keep up with Dallas Goddard running like a 5-3-40.
14:41Okay. So, the commander secondary probably can be what ails, can fix what ails this Dallas Cowboys passing game.
14:46Feel pretty good about that. Schedule after that, though, a little more difficult.
14:50Ravens, Texans, we're going to need better from this Dallas Cowboys passing game.
14:54Period. End of story. If these guys are going to be fantasy football difference makers.
14:58It just felt flat here in week one for Dallas.
15:01Felt really flat. Honestly, I don't do the, you know, sort of meta analysis.
15:06Like, let's try to read into this too much.
15:08It's just like, one team looked like they showed up and really wanted it tonight, and one team didn't.
15:14I know that's dumb. Obviously, players on Dallas wanted to win this football game.
15:18But, if you are prone, if you are akin to that type of analysis, like, listen, one team just wants it more than the other.
15:26I certainly felt like one of those teams tonight played with a lot more heart and wanted it more than the other.
15:32So, disappointing game for the Dallas Cowboys. There's no question about that.
15:36Okay, that is your solo Sunday night football recap.
15:38We've got a big show for you here coming up.
15:41Okay? If you're listening to us on the audio side of things, you are going to hear me, Josh, Hayden, and Ray
15:48break down everything that you need to know coming out of week one.
15:52If you're watching with us on YouTube, that is the end of the show.
15:56But, make sure to check out our full YouTube breakdown.
15:59It's on the Josh and Hayden channel right now.
16:02If you're watching this live, you can go check that video out right now.
16:06So, listen. You don't need to go to bed.
16:08Okay? It's on our channel as well. It's cross-posted.
16:11That's how YouTube works. Okay? So, you can just...
16:14This video is going to end. You're going to hop right over to that video.
16:18Pretty epic stuff. Okay? You don't need to go to bed.
16:22Midnight? Your football juices are flowing. All right? My football juices are flowing.
16:25I'm supposed to go to bed right now after all that adrenaline?
16:29I don't think so. All right. That's going to do it for this solo Sunday night recap.
16:34Now, let's start to the rest of the show with me, Josh, Hayden, and Ray Garvin recapping everything you need to know from week one's Sunday slate.
16:42Let's get into it. Oh, yes. We are back with the best fantasy football game-by-game recap show in the world.
16:48And it's even better this year because I've got some buddies to join us.
16:52Matt Harmon, Ray Garvin, our new co-host, co-workers, everything of the sort here at Yahoo.
16:57Hayden, but first, I want to throw it to you.
17:00You know, we do months and months, almost 100 episodes this summer of research.
17:04And it's very cool in week one when Khalif Raymond goes eight catches for 84 yards and Jamar Chase two catches for 12 yards.
17:11How do you feel? Well, if you told me the Bears would have had 59 points, you'd probably be taking Luther Byrd
17:18and Colson Loveland in, what, the first and second round.
17:21And then, of course, we actually get the results and we realize half of our takes are wrong.
17:26Yes. Well, let's not waste any more time and dive first into that game that Ray has a hold of.
17:32As, you know, Ben Johnson a couple weeks ago in a press conference, Ray said that he wants his offense to set
17:38the NFL record in points for a season. That would be the 2013 Denver Broncos at 39 per contest.
17:44Ray, Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson and company dropped 59 on this Carolina Panthers defense.
17:48How they do it. Can we just start by saying, wow, what a freaking game.
17:5359 points by the Bears. And you talk about how they did it.
17:57Josh, 70 plays, 552 yards, 7.9 yards per play for the Chicago Bears.
18:00And if you would have told me that was going to happen coming into the week, I would have been like Loveland smashed.
18:07Odunze smashed, Burden smashed. I think they combined for a grand total of seven receptions between the three pass catchers there.
18:14But just Chicago, this was such a great game plan by Ben Johnson and the Bears.
18:18You would think that they just went around and threw the ball all over the place.
18:2355% rush rate to 44% pass rate, 48% neutral pass rate for the Bears.
18:27They had two 100-yard rushers in this matchup and they set a litany of records.
18:3296 combined points, most in NFL history for week one.
18:35The Bears, 291 rushing yards and six touchdowns since 1999.
18:38This is only the second team performance combining six plus rushing TDs with two 100-yard rushers joining the 2017 Saints.
18:44I mean, it was, I'm just watching it, y'all.
18:46And I'm just going to say this, just watching the game, watching the way that Caleb played, the way that they ran the ball.
18:53This didn't look like a year three, like kind of level up for Caleb Williams.
18:58I mean, he looked in total command of this offense.
19:01And it looks like he's playing like, it's one weekend, y'all.
19:04But MVP caliber football, just the command, the poise, their ability to run the ball.
19:09Outstanding performance from Chicago's offensive side of the ball.
19:11Let's not overlook the fact that they also gave up 52 points on the defensive side.
19:16But offensively, flawless game plan by Ben Johnson. It's going to feel like a big 12 offense and defense for Chicago.
19:22I like starting with the running backs here. I'm looking at it.
19:26Both of them had over two yards before contact.
19:29One, that's an issue for the Carolina Panthers. They spent a lot of money on that defensive line and linebacker group this offseason.
19:35The Bears still putting it together. Question to you, Ray.
19:38If DeAndre Swift and Kyle Manunga kind of do this drive-by-drive rotation, I'm assuming that's what happened here.
19:44If the Bears really are a top three offense this year, can we get DeAndre Swift as a top 12 fantasy running back here?
19:51He was drafted just outside that, but he was somebody climbing up ADP.
19:55And by the end of it, everyone kind of felt really good about him as a mid to high fourth rounder.
20:01Yeah, Swift 61% of the backfield opportunities compared to 38.7% for Kyle Manunga.
20:05The interesting thing, Hayden, was Manunga ran five more routes than Swift.
20:0916 routes on the day to 11 routes for DeAndre Swift.
20:12So you would think that that number would be flipped a little bit, but the way that they blocked, I mean, they completely dominated the line of scrimmage.
20:20Caleb Williams was not under pressure a lot in this game.
20:23I think there's some more upside to DeAndre Swift's game than maybe we accounted for coming into this season.
20:29So I'm going to say the way that we saw them play, the balance of the attack.
20:34And I know it felt like kind of they alternated drives, but it was a lot of Swift early.
20:40Again, 61% of the backfield opportunities. Yeah, if you drafted Swift, you got to be feeling pretty damn good right now after this game.
20:47Yeah, I mean, the 61-yarder for Kyle Manunga happened super late, Matt.
20:51I mean, for me, the question is, how does the defense stop this version if the Bears are going on and on and on about this?
20:58Like, Caleb Williams, obviously, as a thrower, was fantastic.
21:01Matt, I'm sure you saw, like, the alley-oop pass.
21:04He had to roam with Dunze along the sideline.
21:06Luther Burden can now sit in zone coverage and win in isolated situations.
21:10But what stood out to me was Caleb Williams, also on a 29-yard touchdown run, that he avoids sacks, avoids pressure, shows
21:17some, like, real juice to his game. So, Matt, while we argued about all these pieces around Caleb Williams, at the end
21:23of the day, I felt like this was the Caleb Williams show with four total touchdowns he had to hand in.
21:30So, I would totally agree with that. And the bit that I got to see from this game, he looked so fast
21:36when he would take – like, when he was decisive and got out of there.
21:41You know, he talked about this, that he lost some weight in the offseason, wanted to trim down to be more explosive.
21:47And, I mean, one week in, definitely checked that box to me.
21:51But, Ray, I mean, listen, I got to ask you.
21:54Wide receiver one overall on the week, Jalen Coker, I mean, can we have a moment for that?
21:59Like, let's not take it away from me here like five minutes into the show.
22:04I realize it is the carnival team. You know, shout out Scott Pienowski, and he and I were talking about that today.
22:10We've officially decided the Bears are the carnival team of this season.
22:14So, all that caveat, you know, mentioned here, still pretty impressive performance for our guy, Jalen Coker, Ray.
22:19Yeah, I'm going to be real with y'all. I'm going to be real with y'all.
22:23Just watching the flow of the game, watching those two wide receivers on the field, if you wouldn't have told me one
22:30was a first-round pick and one was an undrafted free agent, I mean, Coker looked great.
22:35Full stop. Full stop. I mean, he looked better.
22:37He looked better than I expected. And, Matt, you know we talked about it early in the offseason.
22:43I was big on Coker. I had him projected quite high.
22:46He looked like the best wide receiver on the field.
22:49Now, Jalen Johnson was covering Tedderon McMillan quite a bit.
22:52T-Mac had an issue where he got the ball punched out.
22:55And Coker looked great. And the way they moved him around, I'm cautiously optimistic on them moving forward and Coker being as
23:02big of a factor in that offense. But there's nobody else a consequence, man.
23:06I know Waller got a few early. Mitchell Evans got in the zone later.
23:10But it combined for 50% of the target share is Jalen Coker and Tedderon McMillan.
23:15So it was a concentrated offense. But Jalen Coker looked fantastic.
23:18Full stop. Ray, I'll take that a step further.
23:21I'm going to go back and rewatch this game.
23:23But just watching it live, Jalen Coker was simply creating more separation than Tedderon McMillan was.
23:28And, you know, I think it was one of the under-discussed topics of the offseason.
23:33And we love to focus in on these tiny little tidbits.
23:36That T-Mac gained 12 to 15 pounds this offseason.
23:39Has that impacted his separation skills? You know? Meanwhile, Jalen Coker wins on a, you know, 51-yard touchdown down the field in kind of an out-and-up situation.
23:47Brad Idzik loved that he was, you know, putting the, really the game in Bryce Young's hands early and often.
23:53And allowing him to throw down the field and take these shot plays.
23:56It took these offenses, the Panthers offense, too many weeks, too many months to do that in previous years.
24:02And, Ray, I thought Bryce Young stepped up to the plate.
24:05Had a fantastic game, all things considered. 361 yards, three touchdowns, and then another rushing score on the ground.
24:11When he juked the heck out of Jalen Johnson at the touchdown line.
24:15Josh, Bryce Young looked great. Bryce Young didn't give up 50 points, all right?
24:19And the one interception came with 20 seconds left in the half.
24:23And he was targeting Jalen Coker on that play to try to get him the ball to push the ball downfield right before half.
24:30But you're talking about a team 66% neutral pass rate on the day for the Carolina Panthers.
24:35If there were one thing that I wish they could have committed to a little bit more was the ground game.
24:41They did not run the ball much in this one.
24:44But, Hayden, you might like this one because I know you're a big Chuba guy.
24:49It was like a lot of Chuba Hubbard. I know Jonathan Brooks had the big play down the field.
24:54But we're talking about 13 carries to six for Hubbard to Jonathan Brooks.
24:58And then 26 routes for Chuba Hubbard to only six for Jonathan Brooks.
25:02And if Bryce would have hit him on another wheel route, he probably would have had another 30, 40 yards down the field.
25:09But the backfield, if they could run the ball a little bit more, find some more balance, I'm not there yet to
25:15say Bryce Young has arrived in year four and he's going to level up to another degree.
25:20But it definitely felt like in this game, without the presence of a wide receiver three and a tight end of consequence,
25:27that he can support McMillan and Jalen Coker both.
25:30Yeah, Jalen Coker, once he was a full-time player last year, he was about the wide receiver 34, 9.5 PPR points per game in that contest.
25:37That's another win for him. I will say with the Bears, I think the drop off from Jalen Johnson to their rest
25:44of the secondary until Kyler Gordon, those guys, gets back.
25:47It's something that we have to note in our matchups column.
25:50And obviously, the Jalen Coker double move was against Tyreek Stephens.
25:53It's just something to keep in the back of my mind, not taking anything away from Coker.
25:59I would say the other big thing with that rotation that was surprising to me is I thought it was going to
26:05be Chuba as a starter, but I thought it was going to be Jonathan Brooks kind of in the secondary role on passing situations.
26:12On third and fourth downs, it was Chuba Hubbard eight snaps and Jonathan Brooks only one of the snaps.
26:18So Jonathan Brooks was like an early down kind of change of pace guy.
26:22He was not this kind of like base down back, pass down back.
26:26That was a lie. It's pretty much all Chuba Hubbard until proven otherwise to the point if you guys got Chuba Hubbard
26:33somewhere in like the hundreds, I think this might be one of the best picks that you guys could have made.
26:39Yeah, two touchdowns for Chuba Hubbard on the day.
26:41The 48-yard reception for Jonathan Brooks was another fantastic off-structure play by Bryce Young, where he basically points him up the field,
26:48up the sideline, throws it on an absolute laser of him down the field, kind of in a tight window area.
26:54So that was a really nice connection there on top of it.
26:58Just final point on Jalen Coker. Last year, he was supposed to be a starting two wide receiver set player for this
27:04team, then suffers the quad injury that lasts for like six to eight weeks.
27:09And Matt, you know this. I'm like the final 40 targets of the season, including the playoffs.
27:14Jalen Coker has simply outperformed Ted O'Neill on that stuff.
27:17Yep. And I understand what you're saying, Hayden, about the Bears defense being questionable on the back end.
27:22The Panthers also get the Atlanta Falcons next week.
27:25You know, this team has torn up the Atlanta Falcons secondary in the past.
27:29So this might be one of those situations, Matt, where we go from, hey, awesome playoff game, 100 plus yards and two
27:35scores to another awesome first week to actually starting Jalen Coker in the flex next week.
27:40I don't see why not. Like, especially if the offense is going to push the ball down the field.
27:46Bryce Young was sixth in the average air yards per pass attempt this week among quarterbacks.
27:51Like, if he's going to do that, then yeah, it's wheels up for Coker because I said this during the offseason.
27:57Like, this is one of the best young receivers in football.
28:00There's no need like UDFA cutesy caveats or anything.
28:03He's just been straight up a baller since he's hit the field.
28:06Right. Just a couple quick notes in this. Darren Waller basically put Jatavian Sanders on the inactive list.
28:12Darren Waller had two catches for 28 yards. Also had an end zone catch that was called back for a touchdown on,
28:18I think, a really ticky tacky offensive pass interference penalty.
28:21Ray, I do want to ask you quickly just about the Bears receivers because Luther Burden pops up for five for 63.
28:28Romadun's a two for 52 with an awesome 47 yarder along the right sideline.
28:32We mentioned that Cleef Raymond eight for eight, 84.
28:35And that leaves us with nothing for Colson Loveland on two targets.
28:38A big fat goose egg. I know you haven't gone back and rewatched the tape or any of that stuff.
28:44But how the heck does Colson Loveland, who was drafted the highest of any of these pass catchers, end up with nothing?
28:51I honestly have nothing for you, man. I've got nothing for you.
28:54It was very obvious at the beginning of that game that Cole Komet was going to be a part of the offense.
29:01Whether you like it or not, he's on the field.
29:04They were motioning him out of the backfield. They were motioning him into the slot.
29:08Like he was a part of the offense. Colson Loveland, they tried to hit him.
29:13When they got down the goal line, it was probably, I think, in the second quarter.
29:18He was open for a touchdown. Caleb Williams missed him.
29:21It was an interception that was overturned doing an offsides to Derrick Brown.
29:24It just didn't look like he was a part of the offensive game plan in this one, which it's a little concerning.
29:31Our man, Zane Dayani, is that his last name?
29:34If I'm butchering Zane's last name. Here's what he said.
29:37Here's what he said about the Bears. Colson Loveland, 92% route share.
29:4013%, 13.5%, 13.5 ADOT for nearly all one tight end sets.
29:43In two tight end sets, 34% slot rate. Luther Burden, 71% route share.
29:47A lot of his stuff was a lot shorter.
29:5050% route share in two wide receiver sets. And then Romo Dunze, 58% route share.
29:5463% in two wide receiver sets. I think my takeaway from this one, y'all, is I don't really know what to make
30:01of the usage of the Bears wide receivers because none of them really had the type of game that anybody was anticipating.
30:08And yet they put up 60 damn points. So it's one of these things where you're probably going to play all three again.
30:14You're absolutely going to play all three again. I hate to say it's incomplete when they put up 59 points, but I
30:21don't know what we take from this moving forward.
30:24Do I think Loveland is a zero moving forward?
30:26Absolutely not. Do I think Rome's only going to have two receptions?
30:30No. Luther Burden fumbled the ball early in the game.
30:33So it was just, it was clear that this game plan was establish it, establish it, establish it.
30:38And Caleb Williams, his threat with the legs. I think that kind of hurts the receivers and the tight ends to a degree at times.
30:46Josh, I would note that I feel like we do need to get a sample here when Roma Dunze has like a full week of practice.
30:53You know, he told me in January and February of last year that the thing that he felt was most disruptive to
31:00him was not missing, like not the injury playing through it last year, but actually just the routine and the disruption of the practice time.
31:07So I think that's probably something we need here.
31:10And as for Loveland, like I watched both of his targets that Caleb Williams delivered to him.
31:15Those are probably like his two worst throws of the day, just in terms of ball placement and accuracy.
31:21So that's just a, I mean, look, you don't want two targets anyways, still a little bit just unfortunate there.
31:27But I would say that the guy that has probably, if you're, and I'm not concerned about any of these guys, but
31:33you know, the most concerning maybe usage was Luther Burden, who wasn't like a full-time player in a lot of the two receiver set stuff.
31:41So that's the one I think we need to dig into the most for stats versus film later.
31:46And let me just say this, y'all. Olamide Zaccheaus was getting targets last year and he had a specified role.
31:52I'm not predicting that Khalif Raymond leads this team and targets an opportunity, but it felt a hell of a lot more
31:59than just like coincidence or luck that he got the opportunity that he did.
32:03Like he did not run the same route. He did not run the same routes as Luther Burden or Roma Dunze.
32:09It felt like he's got some kind of role in this offense that nobody predicted would be there.
32:14Ray, just to kind of wrap this one up, Khalif Raymond, 95% of three wide receiver sets he was on the field for.
32:21That's a very valuable role. That's the exact role that you guys are talking about.
32:26The new name I was not expecting, Jaday Walker.
32:28He led all Bears wide receivers in the non-three wide receiver set snaps.
32:3271% of those went to him. I think that when Roma Dunze goes to full-time, Walker snaps will come down.
32:38But Walker was actually the one that was getting in the way of Luther Burden in this game.
32:44So just something to watch, something that I would guess nobody was really expecting.
32:48I'll just end this by pointing a finger at the Panthers defense coordinator, Edgero Evero.
32:52He has some questions to answer for here. Okay.
32:55I mean, this is the same DC that two seasons ago coached the unit that allowed the most points in NFL history.
33:02All I have heard ever since then is, oh, he's well-respected in the league.
33:06And they just believe that once he gets more defensive personnel, that this defense is going to turn it around.
33:12And he should be on head coaching lists. And, you know, he changes the coverage the most between pre-snap and post-snap.
33:18Who cares? The dude sucks at his job. Okay.
33:21Get him out of here. A team, an offense that posts 31 points in the opening three quarters should win a game 80% of the time.
33:28And his defense allowed 59 points in this game.
33:31Get out. I'm sick of it. It is just incredible.
33:34I understand there are some other plays like Derek Brown on the, you know, roughing the passer and Jimmy Horn, muffing the
33:41punt and all that type of stuff. Your defense wasn't ready for the game.
33:45It's that simple. And it hasn't been ready for four years.
33:48Simple as. All right. Next up. Speaking of defense, it was questionable in this one.
33:52Shockingly, Harmon, as the Buffalo Bills beat the Houston Texans on the road, 36 to 31.
33:57Did not have this Texans defense in mind to allow 36 points on the board.
34:02And Matt, I look at the box score. Duncan Cade, 5 or 130.
34:06DJ Moore, 5, 101. And one, Brandon Bean's big moves.
34:09The receiver room certainly hit here in week one of the 2026 season.
34:12Yeah. The big takeaway, I think, is that both of these offenses looked really good.
34:17And shout out to Joe Brady, popping his shirt off in the locker room, letting the white boy chain hang out.
34:23I mean, there were some good vibes for the Buffalo Bills in this game.
34:27I mean, a lot of it was some of the things you highlighted there were right away.
34:32I will say it felt a little bit like they needed to kind of settle into the offense here with Joe Brady and the boys.
34:40But, you know, one thing that caught my eye right away is 36 points against the Houston Texans.
34:45According to NFL Pro, that is the most a D'Amico Ryan's led defense has given up since his first season on the job in 2023.
34:53And this is a defense that's given Josh Allen a lot of trouble in their last two meetings.
34:5813.5 adjusted yards per attempt in this game. It helps to have receivers who can get open down the field, it turns out.
35:05And not only that, but it also kind of allowed them to get Khalil Shakir loose early for two catches for 45 yards on his first two targets.
35:13And those are not like Khalil Shakir catch and run opportunities.
35:16That was kind of a continuation from their first preseason game where Shakir was used more down the field.
35:22And I think his two targets after that were or his two catches after that were both screens and more typical Khalil Shakir things.
35:29But yeah, I mean, it was DJ Moore who had four catches of 10 plus yards down the field.
35:3581% route participation led the team. He had like his touchdown.
35:38His first catch was like a play action skinny post, like down the field, exactly what you'd think.
35:44And he didn't have a catch until the second quarter of this game.
35:47And then as soon as like that connection started heating up, Josh Allen just was going after him again and again.
35:54Now his touchdown was a little bit of a questionable gamble by Reed Blankenship on that one.
35:59It's tight along the sideline. Reed tries to go for the pick and then, you know, just DJ Moore scampers the rest of the way.
36:06But immediately you felt the difference with him in there.
36:09And the other guy too is Dalton Kincaid, who was just smoking defenders down the football field in the second half of this one.
36:1677% snap share. That's the eighth highest of his career.
36:19Most of any wide receiver and tight end on the team.
36:23He had three catches on three targets for 113 yards when lined up out wide.
36:27I mean, it finally looked like not Dalton Kincaid to the theory, but like Dalton Kincaid, the actualized version of the idea
36:34was on the field for the Buffalo Bills. So, yeah, it was a I will say Josh Allen almost like threw this game away game ending.
36:41I and T on what was just an absolute like, why are you throwing that thing up just for grabs for Josh Palmer?
36:48But if you threw that tweet out there, you immediately regretted it because then he throws the strike on a post route
36:55touchdown to the same player, Josh Palmer, to eventually win this game.
36:58Matt, we call that Dalton Kade versus USC. That's the thing we're aiming for here.
37:03But just looking at the box score here, it looks like it was a way more dropbacks versus designed carries.
37:09And last year was about even split. You just never knew.
37:12Was that a Sean McDermott thing or was that an actual Joe Brady thing now that he's in the head coaching chair?
37:19Like, is this something where like obviously you're facing the Texans pass rushers, which it seems like they held up pretty well
37:25in the 27 percent pressure rate, which is really good given the defense and those corners.
37:30And they still went back and dropped back all that time.
37:33Did it feel different just watching like James Cook versus Josh Allen, the rest of these guys?
37:38Yeah, definitely. And I mean, James Cook had a catch on the first drive, like one of the first two plays of
37:45the game, second play of the game, actually. And he went for, you know, fourth.
37:49Like it was just he was involved pretty early as a receiver in that way.
37:54He only has like three catches on the day.
37:56So it's not some crazy pass game role. But it was like the first inclination that, oh, something is a little bit different here.
38:04And that was what we talked about with what this team had been kind of whispering out of camp in the preseason.
38:10What is it? They wanted to throw the football more.
38:13And even when you like they first hire Joe Brady as the head coach, that was kind of the early justification by
38:20beat reporters covering the team was, well, you know, no, Joe Brady doesn't want to run the football like that.
38:26That was more of a Sean McDermott thing. And you didn't know if that was kind of spin with an organization that
38:32was, you know, a little bit questionable in the in the in the press conference talking about firing Sean McDermott and the whole deal.
38:39But it certainly looked like the actualized reality of that here in this game.
38:44Matt, need to ask you on the opposite end here with the Houston Texans.
38:48CJ Stroud coming off some disastrous playoff performances. I would say the bills are like a medium defense.
38:53We're not exactly sure what to expect with them now with Jim Leonard calling, you know, the plays for them.
38:59But he goes 26 to 38 to 74 to touchdowns.
39:02And as we know, Nico Collins is his go to man.
39:05But a whole bunch of people, I mean, almost a dozen of them catch passes in this contest.
39:11Just overall, what CJ Stroud do in his debut in 2026?
39:14I thought, again, I feel good about both offenses coming out of this one.
39:18I do think it's easier to say Bill's offense faces against a good defense that we know is good and is mostly
39:25returning the same player, same coaches and the whole deal.
39:28And I think it's easier to take more positivity away from that one because, you know, like Hayden pointed out, they did keep those pass rushers at bay.
39:36It was like deep into this game before you really heard anything from Will Anderson and Neil Hunter eventually made his presence known.
39:43But still, for the most part, like that's how that team felt with with the Bills defenses versus the Texans offense.
39:49I'm not saying like this was a bad debut by Jim Leonard or anything, but man, they really kept playing like outside leverage on this team.
39:57And CJ Stroud went 14 of 19 on 100 for 173 yards on in breaking throws in this game.
40:02Like they attacked the middle of the field consistently.
40:05The biggest takeaway, though, to me, we'll come back to the past game.
40:09I do want to talk about Nico Collins a little bit more in this game.
40:13But to me, the biggest note was actually in the run game where Dave Montgomery scores three touchdowns.
40:19That's great. That's cool. Obviously, if you started him in fantasy, that feels pretty good.
40:23It did feel a little bit like, oh, geez, we're sure like Dave Montgomery is not going to be a good player for this Houston Texans football team.
40:32But the bigger one to me is that the rushing success rate for the Texans in this game, 48.3%.
40:37That's the fourth best out of 58 regular season and playoff games for this team since 2023.
40:42And 2023 to 2025 has said this a lot.
40:45They were the 31st ranked rushing success rate team since they drafted CJ Stroud strictly on running back runs.
40:51So they they implemented a lot more heavy personnel.
40:53Dave Montgomery had like three straight carries on his first touchdown out of heavy personnel.
40:58The second touchdown comes out of a 12 personnel look like this did feel like a different run game for Houston than what we've seen.
41:05Certainly last year and even in some of the Joe Mixon years.
41:09Yeah, right. Hand up. I was one of the people that was bringing up some maybe dead zone running back profile ish from Dave Montgomery.
41:16But this is certainly an awesome debut with three touchdowns that puts a sock in my mouth for at least the next couple of weeks.
41:24Well, I mean, Josh, I kind of wanted to ask Carmen this because I didn't watch a ton of this game.
41:30Right. I was locked in on the Jets and the Titans, which we'll get to later.
41:35But when I see when I see when I see three touchdowns, I feel great.
41:39When I see 20 carries for 60 yards, three yards in attempt and you tell me the Buffalo defense isn't great.
41:46Like I'm just I just want to know how it felt watching him.
41:49Did it feel like a grind? Did he look like, oh, man, like we've got a stud here or was it just
41:56was it just one of those things where if you're going to give him 20 carries, like it's probably going to you're
42:03going to get some fantasy production here because I'm just looking at the raw numbers and I'm like, yeah, it doesn't look that great from Montgomery.
42:10But I mean, we love the three touchdowns, no doubt.
42:13Like what did you see? Just the eye test, Matt.
42:16That's why I wanted to bring the success rate stack because I think it shows the story a little bit better than strict yards per carry.
42:24Because a lot of his 149 yards. Yeah, a lot of Montgomery's carries came in short yardage situations.
42:29Again, like I mentioned, like three straight at the goal line before he scores his first touchdown.
42:34So some of that just depresses the yards per carry.
42:37But yeah, I wouldn't say this looked like a, oh, boy, overwhelming run game.
42:42But we're talking about the bar for this team is literally at the floor.
42:46Like we just need them to not be the 31st ranked rushing team for them to actually move the football.
42:52And I think that did bleed into the passing game where they had more advantageous down and distance situations.
42:57So I just think that the whole offense felt a little bit more organized and cleaner than what we've seen out of Houston the last two years.
43:05Yeah, interesting, Matt. Based on the box score, I wouldn't have guessed what Michael F.
43:10Florio is putting here on the screen with 51% snaps or D-Mont, 49% Woody Marks.
43:14You know, nine carries, 16 routes, 20 carries, 15 routes, all that type of stuff.
43:19But yeah, the box score tells us that near the goal line that it's certainly D-Mont.
43:24I also want to ask about the wide receiver room, Matt, because this was a huge, you know, change in the preseason.
43:30Once Jaden Higgins went down, we always knew that Nico Collins was going to be, as you put up the alpha wide receiver one for the Houston Texans.
43:38Is it as simple as you state here? Everything else, wide receiver two by committee, because we get Jalen Knoll, two for
43:4553, Dalton Schultz, four for 35, Xavier Hutchinson, three for 32, and then Kayshaun Boutte, one for 21.
43:50Yeah, everybody else kind of had their moments. Even this guy, Jared Wayne, was playing a decent bit and kind of as
43:57another, almost like a Xavier Hutchinson clone, a little bit of a grinder blocker.
44:01Like he was the solo wide receiver in 13 personnel at times.
44:05Again, Xavier Hutchinson did sort of the dirty work special several times in this game.
44:09Jalen Knoll, wide open on a dig route on his first catch, and then kind of a clutch third and three reception
44:16in the final minute of this game. But yeah, it wasn't a full-time player.
44:20Nobody was a full-time player. Nobody in the wide receiver room had a 70% route share, except Nico Collins at 88%.
44:26Kayshaun Booty, he had a 21-yard reception, kind of lost a contested pass along the sideline for one of his others.
44:32All the tight ends were involved. Like to me, this just, the world revolves around Nico Collins, who had a productive day and drew another long pass interference.
44:41I should have mentioned DJ Moore had a bunch of hidden yards for the Buffalo Bills as well.
44:46He had several like pass interference, legal contact down the field plays in this one too.
44:51So yeah, Collins was the, everything revolves around him and everyone else is just kind of in the orbit.
44:56Matt, just closing out, wanted to ask you about the end of game sequence, really the final three plays.
45:02Because Houston gets down first and goal to the nine-yard line, 25 seconds left on the clock.
45:07Is this just, you know, the Bills turning it on in the moment they have to where they get a sack?
45:13Then we go second and goal from the 18, incompletion over to Nico Collins, and then we close it out with another sack fumble on third and goal.
45:22Yeah, that was probably Stroud's worst moment of the game, which I mean, you know, it's wonderful one that loses the game.
45:28So, you know, not particularly ideal. But like I said, he was pretty clean all game and then kind of just makes
45:35a bad play worse where Trent Brown loses really quickly to Gregory Rousseau on the right tackle side.
45:40And then he just kind of gets a little careless with the football.
45:44As we'll talk about later, we call that the Baker Mayfield special.
45:48He had kind of one of those at the worst moment.
45:51Yeah. Interesting here for the Texans. I mean, they start with the Buffalo Bills and then the Cincinnati Bengals offense in week two.
45:58So hopefully they can rebound on that side and ask for the Bills.
46:02They face the Detroit Lions in week two. Man, oh man, we already have an awesome week two slate.
46:07Hayden, I mean, the timing is perfect. Let's flip it over to you.
46:11Now, with those Detroit Lions in overtime beating the New Orleans Saints 31 to 30, I was looking at box scores the
46:18entire time and it felt like for the first, you know, 45 minutes of this game.
46:23Yep. Tyler Shuck and Travis H. And had a combined 38 yards.
46:26In the end, Tyler Shuck throws for 410 yards and three touchdowns and two interceptions.
46:31H. And still very minimal nine for 46. I don't know if you want to start there.
46:36Just the overall aspect of this game and how it played out and how we got into overtime with the Saints losing
46:42because they failed a two point conversion. Absolutely a tale of two house.
46:46We'll get to the Saints second here. Didn't want to talk about the Lions just because they won this game.
46:52Now, they really should have lost this game. There was kind of some controversy here with one of the refs play calls here.
46:59But with the offense, it just felt a lot more conservative than some of the previous Lions offenses out there.
47:05The offensive line was fantastic in this one. Only one pressure allowed, according to PFF right now.
47:10Jared Goff, though, 6.6 average depth to target. Everything felt underneath.
47:13Obviously, Jameer Gibbs goes crazy. It's going to be impossible to defend in fantasy.
47:17If you don't have them, good luck to you guys.
47:20But even in the dropbacks, there was a lot of underneath stuff to Amon Ra.
47:25His ADOT was 5.2 yards down the field. 36% target share for him.
47:29So I know it's the Petsing offense. Is that going to force a bunch of targets to the tight ends?
47:35Not necessarily. I think Sam Laporta had a very up-the-middle game for him.
47:39But Amon Ra-St. Brown off-coverage touchdown. Easy one. And then in overtime, a pick play where the guy, I think it was
47:45Isaac Teslaw, to pick him for a little slant goal line touchdown for Amon Ra-St.
47:50Brown. Jameer didn't really do a whole lot. There was a third and four drop that cost him a first down.
47:56Maybe another drop on third and two. I'm guessing if we go back and watch the All-22, maybe he's running more clear-out routes.
48:03Early in the game, lots of two tight ends snaps.
48:06By the end of it, a lot more traditional stuff there.
48:09So really, nothing too concrete from the Lions' end, even though with a new play caller there, maybe a little bit more conservative.
48:16That said, this was a very automatic offense. Not a lot of explosives here.
48:20Just an offense that continued to just march down the football field.
48:23They did lose their left guard with an injury early in the first quarter.
48:28Yeah. Hayden, we have talked about teams already that are getting players involved that we didn't even know were on rosters.
48:34I feel like this Lions team, though, is going to be the most straightforward one that we'll see all season long, where
48:40it's Jameer Gibbs with, I mean, he had 29 carries and then another five targets on top of it.
48:46I mean, opening a season with 34 overall opportunities is insane stuff.
48:50And then it's Amon Ross St. Brown, Sam Laporte, and Jameson Williams.
48:53And that's it. I mean, this is the most predictable offense in the NFL.
48:57And I'll say it's going to be the most predictable defense.
49:01This secondary, and we can just get right to the Saints, was atrocious for the Lions.
49:06They're missing both of their safeties right now. And I think once those guys get back, maybe things get a little bit squared away here.
49:13But like Rakia Sin, he was leaving the game.
49:16Everybody was getting picked apart. Tyler Shuck, for the first half of the game, they were like sliding protections the wrong way.
49:22They were like running routes where like nobody was even near where the ball was placed.
49:27There was a lot of attempts where Tyler Shuck was throwing the ball and the wide receivers weren't even turned around.
49:33Bryce Lance, a very inexperienced player, obviously, in his first game.
49:36He was a big part of this offense. CJ Donaldson, I have never heard of you, CJ Donaldson.
49:42This guy was out there all the time in pass protection instead of Travis H.
49:46So there's a lot more like new faces in this one.
49:50It felt really sloppy for the first half. And I was tweeting some things.
49:54And then the second half of this game, Tyler Shucks read the tweets.
49:58And then he was absolutely bawling, throwing the ball down the football field.
50:02Chris Olave, 10 receptions, 182 yards. A lot of them were down the football field.
50:06He only left the game three times due to injury.
50:09So that was a win for Chris Olave. Only three times.
50:12Only three times. My phone was updating all day.
50:15Literally. All day. In and out. In and out.
50:18He's either making a big play or he's in the medical tent.
50:21It was nuts. And sometimes it was both. It was because he made the big play.
50:26That's why he ended up in the medical tent.
50:29So it was a wild game. Devon Bailey was very much involved.
50:32He has a goal line touchdowns on a fade route for him.
50:36I think that he's someone that kind of, not all the way to Jalen Coker's Coker's as a better player, but someone
50:42that is a, for sure, almost every down player that's on a team that can get into some shootouts.
50:48He's like interesting as a pure like dart throw type.
50:51And then Jawan Johnson did. He was one of these guys did absolutely nothing.
50:55And then on the very last couple plays of the game, he scores a touchdown to tie it.
51:00He has a huge play to attempt the Saints to have a game winning field goal and a dig route over the middle.
51:07And then also has a big play in overtime where they eventually get Noah Fant into the end zone.
51:13There's a couple of sequences that I really want to talk about just for NFL at large.
51:18The Saints, they in overtime, they go for two.
51:21They don't get the ball to Chris. A lot of they're trying to get a little pick route to him.
51:27I think that Chuck could have forced it to him, but did chose not to.
51:31The ball goes out of bounds. I liked that decision.
51:34Unfortunately for the Saints, there's this really odd rule where Jared Goff gets strip sacked.
51:39The refs say that he was intending to throw the ball forward.
51:42The ball does go backwards. The Saints pick the ball up would have been a touchdown for them if that play was
51:49called the opposite way, which my entire adult life I've been watching football.
51:53And whenever the ball goes backwards, it seems like the other team gets the ball.
51:57That's how the game works. Not this time. And that cost the Saints here.
52:01So multiple opportunities to pull off an upset. I would say an impressive game for the Saints because Staley didn't allow explosives on his side of the ball.
52:10But at the same time, it took a full half to get this offense going.
52:14But once they did, it was just explosive after explosive.
52:17Wow. Wow. Okay. We've talked about all this, Josh.
52:20We talked about all this and I'm just looking at like Kendra Miller.
52:24Hey, Kendra Miller. I know he scored the touchdown, but nine carries to a chance nine.
52:28And I get the game script was very negative.
52:31But it was like, even with all the bad that was happening, New Orleans was always in it.
52:36What the hell was that about? Kendra Miller actually getting touches on the field?
52:41Yeah, this is probably the biggest fantasy takeaway because I was just stunned that Kendra Miller was playing so often.
52:47It was CJ Donaldson and like pass protection. By the way, that's a undrafted rookie.
52:51I believe I think it was the RB three for the Buckeyes comes in there with a very legitimate role.
52:57Maybe like a version of the Alvin Kamara role, but it was actually Kendra Miller and like Travis HN like splitting early down work.
53:04Now, at the same time, Travis HN because of game scripts, and this is going to happen whenever you face the Detroit Lions, a career high nine targets.
53:12They go for 32 yards. They're scoreless, but a career high targets for Travis HN here.
53:17I would still call this a stock down for him just because they were this game wasn't like that crazy in terms
53:24of game script is a wonky game, but the game was like fairly tight for a lot of it.
53:29Kendra Miller was like literally taking snaps away from Travis HN.
53:33His touchdown was at the eight yard line. But even then you're like, why is Kendra Miller out there at the eight yard line for a touchdown opportunity?
53:41So I would say one of the most surprising outcomes without Alvin Kamara not even playing.
53:46Yeah, I mean, we've seen other running backs that were either traded for or signed this offseason get almost all the work
53:52and for Travis HN not to get all the work in his debut after signing for that big contract, I think is really massive.
54:00And Hayden, like you said, if they didn't rediscover they could catch passes in the second half, he wouldn't have those nine
54:06targets right when they're working from behind. And then next week they face the Baltimore Ravens away.
54:11So that's pretty terrifying if Travis HN is not getting, you know, 70% of the work.
54:16And I don't know why they would change that from week one to week two.
54:20I will say this. We talk about neutral pace all the time.
54:24And there's a reason for that. The Saints had 90 plays on offense.
54:28Obviously, you go to overtime and you're in trail.
54:30But offenses that play with that amount of pace, you can kind of back way into some fantasy production.
54:36So at least you have like that as some level of a floor for all these type of players.
54:42All right. Speaking of the Ravens, I'll close out this first grouping with Baltimore beating the Indianapolis Colts 41 to 23.
54:48The debut of Jesse Minter and especially the opposite coordinator Declan Doyle could not have gone any better for the Ravens.
54:54I mean, the first player to shout out is our guy.
54:58And I mean, all of our guys say flowers, five catches, 150 yards and a touchdown at halftime.
55:03Unfortunately, that's when his game ended due to a hamstring strain.
55:06But his usage has to get really everyone excited.
55:09Like the first snap on the Ravens offense after an awesome return was play action under center boot to the left.
55:15Zay flowers for 49 yards. Later on, Declan Doyle put him attached to Lamar Jackson in the backfield on a second and nine.
55:22He was uncovered due to blitzers on this like choice route.
55:25And then he just runs it after the catch for 54 yards.
55:29I mean, he was moving at a different speed than anyone else on NFL field.
55:33He looked the best he ever has. And hopefully I can say that again once he returns to the field from his injury.
55:40As for Derrick Henry, the running back on the day, 24 carries, 144 yards, three touchdowns.
55:45Now he is third all time in rushing touchdowns in NFL history, all time.
55:49Derrick Henry is. I mean, we are witnessing history here in the making.
55:53He is immortal. He looks like he's 27 years of age.
55:56And I thought Declan Doyle really did a fantastic job with his partnership with Lamar Jackson on some like zone read actions.
56:03He got him pointed to the edge. He even drew up a 19 yard screen for him.
56:08And I'll just close this out with Lamar Jackson.
56:11First drive cap of the rushing score inside the five yard line.
56:14He only had two rushing scores all of last season.
56:17This is again, a new offensive line in many ways, a new play caller.
56:21And I thought Lamar looked comfortable. He looked poised.
56:24He looked calm on the road. And that's really all you can ask for in a debut with so many new pieces around him.
56:31Yeah. How many of those rush attempts were like design stuff versus him scrambling around?
56:36And like, does he like look like the fully healthy Lamar Jackson here?
56:39Like the one that can go like toe to toe with Josh Allen for a season.
56:44Yep. Fully healthy. A couple of them were designed.
56:47The other ones were scrambles where he was doing his best impression of Neo and, you know, avoiding arm length tackles and,
56:53you know, backing up, then moving forward, then not running people to the edge and all that type of stuff.
56:59He was sacked twice. I believe he also maybe fumbled on a sack on top of it.
57:05Yeah, it was a layout to lot to sack that Forrest Buckner picked up.
57:09But Lamar was pinpoint. And this, you know, jump from 31 points in the first half.
57:13It really stalled once they flowers went down at halftime.
57:16And also Jacoby Lane missed the second half. Jacoby Lane left with a wrist injury after basically getting three red zone targets on the same series.
57:24One went for a touchdown that was called back due to a holding.
57:28Then he got another one that got them down to about the four yard line and then ended that with an incomplete pass in the end zone.
57:36But once, you know, the top two wide receivers went out, it wasn't until a 53 yard catch and is only one
57:43of the day to Chris Moore that really reignited this offense back to score the 10 points to really put this one away.
57:49Yeah, Chris Moore in the year 2026. That's, you know, that's maybe not what you want.
57:54Devontae Walker was injured coming into this game. Elijah Surratt was a healthy scratch.
57:58But I mean, Josh, three touchdowns for Derrick Henry.
58:01What did I tell you, bro? In Buffalo, I said he's going to have double digit touchdowns.
58:06He's got double digit touchdowns in his back pocket coming into the season.
58:10We're 30% of the way there. How about that?
58:13We already are. And if he does that, I mean, it's an insane list of like Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith that
58:19he joins as, again, like the best to ever do it.
58:23Matt, I do want to put this back on you, though, because even when Zay Flowers and Jacoby Lane miss an entire
58:29half of action and Chris Moore goes one for 53, LeJonte Wester goes two for 15.
58:34I see all the way at the bottom Rashad Bateman, one target, zero reception, zero yards.
58:39You can't even do it in that environment. We're not we're not doing Rashad Bateman anymore.
58:43OK, we're done with my therapist says I'm not allowed to talk about Rashad Bateman.
58:48I don't know if you heard that. So, yeah, Josh, let me ask you.
58:52Yeah, go ahead. Can I ask you this? Because we did talk about this on the data dump that over the last
58:59like three years, the wide receiver to wide receiver to in Baltimore averages like four targets per game.
59:04And I'm just looking at the box score. Nobody likes old man Mark Andrews, but I'm just looking at raw targets.
59:10And I see six there for Mark Andrews. And Lamar Jackson is one of the most efficient quarterbacks in NFL history.
59:16If we're looking for like a lower end tight end play, if Lane is out, if Bateman's going to be a zero,
59:23I mean, what did you see from Andrews on the field?
59:26He looked like he has in the last couple of years, which isn't that bad in comparison, I think, to what the
59:33beat writers said about him in training camp, that it was a disaster and like his career might be coming to a conclusion.
59:40There was a bunch of like pre-snap motion and misdirection again off play action.
59:44And I think that was kind of aiding Mark Andrews in terms of not having to beat man coverage because, you know,
59:50defenses will run a lot of zone, obviously against Lamar Jackson.
59:54And he's still just really good at finding these soft spots and soft areas and not offering much after the catch.
60:00But he was there. And even Matthew Hibner popped up for a catch for 13 yards on top of it.
60:06Okay, quickly over to the Colts end of this.
60:09The first drive was simply outstanding, like Shane Sykin sliced right through Jesse Minner's defense, just like he did last year against the Chargers.
60:16There were two key Josh Downs receptions on that drive, third down conversions.
60:20The first one, third and three after an audible by Daniel Jones.
60:23It's a 25 yard shake route with plenty of yards after catch.
60:27And then later on, a 12 yard gain on third and eight after Josh Downs got motion.
60:32He opened the game, Shane Sykin, seven straight dropbacks.
60:35But after that opening drive touchdown, the drives went interception, punt, punt, fumble and punt.
60:39And they were down 31 to 13 at half.
60:42So Jonathan Taylor still looked freaking awesome with 19 carries for 98 yards and two scores.
60:46Tyler Warren didn't get his touchdown until late. It kind of felt like he was the sacrificial player in this, almost having
60:53to stay closer to the line of scrimmage to really take account for everything that Jesse Minner was doing.
60:59Uh, on the edges in terms of pressure looks and all that type of stuff.
61:03Uh, and then Alec Pierce had two downfield targets, uh, that were past breakups because it was perfect coverage by Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins.
61:11And I kind of wonder if he maybe has lost five to 10% of his juice right now than other previous years.
61:17Like last year, he'd be able to separate it and come down with those grabs.
61:22Uh, but does finish most of this at the end with four catches for 61 yards.
61:26Hmm. I would take that as a win for Alec Pierce.
61:30Like as long as he didn't have a setback, he played about half of the routes there.
61:35And yeah, at least put some numbers out there.
61:37I feel like that's, that's enough to keep me somewhat confident over the next couple of weeks that we can end up
61:44starting him, uh, looking in the numbers, Josh Downs, he did play in most of the non 11 personnel stuff.
61:50That's a, that's, that's pretty exciting. And then, um, I think that's exciting until you look at two for 37 yards, basically
61:5648 of 54 snaps and got two for, for 37 in a game that they lost by 18 points.
62:02Josh, I think more to talk about than the rack up points.
62:06Yeah. Yeah. What did Jones look like? Yeah. It's the first drive was so good that I was like, oh man, this
62:12is right back where everyone was saying that this team is going to be.
62:16And then, uh, he, I think through an awful interception on the second series where he tried to a high low Roquan
62:23Smith and Roquan was like, no, I'm just going to stay in the middle of this and tip it to myself and come down with this catch.
62:31And there was very little movement from Daniel Jones on top of it.
62:35Uh, Jesse Minner has this defense flying around. Um, you know, the edge rushers, the defensive tackles, Kyle Hamilton was, you know,
62:41a deep safety, a slot corner, and then blitzing off the edge on top of it.
62:46So it just felt like this Colts offense was not ready for, for what the defense brought to the table.
62:52And then Keenan Allen, I do want to say played the second most snaps, but that was down at 36 of 54 among wide receivers.
63:00Uh, he had the first catch of the game, but, uh, yeah, I mean, just six for 32 might be something we kind of keep in mind here.
63:08And yeah, again, Tyler Warren played 50 of 54, just not his day when it comes to, uh, being heavily involved from the start.
63:15Okay. If there's no more questions, we'll keep it moving.
63:18Hayden over to you. I mean, we've already talked about some, and I mean, just a couple of the biggest shocks and surprises of the day.
63:26Uh, we were waiting on you to start this episode because I looked down and I could have sworn that the Packers
63:32were up by two for 59 minutes and then they lose by 17 to the Minnesota Vikings.
63:37What? 39 to 22. I didn't see a single second of this contest.
63:41How the heck did the Vikings with Carson Wentz as their starting quarterback beat the Packers by 17?
63:47Yeah. Don't type in the floor right now on Twitter.
63:50Packers fans are completely irate. I totally get this one because the Packers felt like they were the better team for quite a while.
63:57The Vikings blitzed on 87% of the Packers dropbacks, 87%.
64:00That is gotta be some type of record. Yes.
64:02Now the Packers knew this was coming. They faced Brian Flores all the time.
64:07They were able to get a couple of explosives early on in the game.
64:11Christian Watson on a, uh, in cut. He kind of beats where the other linebackers supposed to be on a blitz route.
64:17He takes it was easily the most athletic guy in the football field takes it for an 81 yard touchdown.
64:23There's a couple other plays for Christian Watson, including when he's going to like insert block and it kind of leaks out for a red zone touchdown.
64:31So he's not just Mr. 80 yard touchdown. He's going to get involved at the goal line.
64:36His season looked like it's going to be pretty awesome.
64:39Um, Matthew golden, he has, uh, 12 targets in this one.
64:43There was some in cut, uh, uh, opportunities for Matthew golden 42 yarder out there.
64:47I thought that he passed the test played most of the snaps, but what happened with the Packers is they had explosives,
64:54but there was no level of consistency here. Jordan love gets sacked four times.
64:58That's what happens when you have 87% blitzes coming your way.
65:01And the Packers could not run the ball whatsoever is under a four yards per carry.
65:06Marshawn Lloyd, uh, has more carries than Chris books, but Chris Brooks actually started this game.
65:11Chris Brooks was out there in a lot of the past protection because, uh, the Vikings were bringing so much pressure and
65:17you're not going to trust Marshawn Lloyd out there.
65:20So pretty quiet day for the running back group at large, but that's one of the problems with the Packers.
65:26Like it's so hard for them to kind of stay on schedule here.
65:30And if you're not hitting the huge explosives, all of a sudden this offense feels a little bit stuck.
65:35So in the second half, very conservative game planning, uh, until Matt, uh, Matt LaFleur in the, uh, late in the game,
65:42they're up by a couple points by five points here.
65:45They it's like a fourth and six, the trace Mac who nailed a couple of long field goals in this one.
65:51He hits his field goal here to make them go up eight.
65:55There was a penalty on the Vikings that Packers decided to accept the penalty to go to fourth and one on that fourth and one.
66:02They do a quarterback sneak that gets stuffed. So instead of taking, uh, this game to go up by eight, they choose
66:09to try to make this like a true two score game.
66:12Uh, and it backfires. And a lot of the models were saying actually you should just take the points there.
66:18Uh, next possession Vikings go all the way down, uh, the field score a touchdown.
66:22By the way, this is all with Carson Wentz, uh, mind you.
66:26And then, uh, later on the game, uh, Jordan love, uh, he gets strip sacked.
66:30Uh, there's interception, uh, as well, uh, on a ball that's like a pass deflected.
66:35And then the Vikings end up just having a couple of, a couple of explosives to Jordan Mason, Aaron Jones scores, a rushing touchdown.
66:42Jordan Mason scores, uh, a rushing touchdown. And then Justin Jefferson completely balls out.
66:46So this game was sloppy to start for the Vikings end of this.
66:50They stayed competitive. And then at the end of the game, the Packers side of this thing, it just could not pick up a normal first down.
66:58And a lot of it is because of Brian Flores.
67:01Okay. Since it's a fantasy relevant question, I guess we just have to ask Josh Jacobs is going to miss more games than week two.
67:09Chris Brooks. I know Matt pointed this out. I know Ray has pointed this out.
67:13I know all of us have that he was most likely going to play the most snaps or a lot of them
67:20because of his pass pro and recognition and all that type of stuff.
67:24But from your eye test, did Marshawn Lloyd pass it?
67:26Is this someone that can be a flex option moving forward?
67:30I think next week you got the Jets and then you got the Falcons.
67:34I think over those two games, I think there's going to be enough points here to go around where Marshawn Lloyd could be a flex.
67:41He is definitely not an RB2 though. Marshawn Lloyd, I thought was, he's very dancey and like you're supposed to have a jump cuts as a running back.
67:50Sometimes his jump cuts are like a little bit too jumpy for me and they try to get him on like a big wheel route.
67:57Yes. You guys watch it. You'll, you'll notice this.
68:00And I think the other big takeaway, and this is all, all kind of comes together.
68:05The interior offensive line for the Packers is a huge problem.
68:08Both of their guards stink out loud, stink out loud.
68:11And that's not changing whether it's Josh Jacobs or whoever else is out there.
68:15This team's going to live and die by the explosives.
68:18Now, I think they're going to get a bunch of that.
68:21The entire game, Jordan Love was like on his back foot, just throwing bombs down the field.
68:26And they did have some fun, uh, uh, explosives, including two to Tucker craft.
68:31He was, uh, about a halftime player in this one.
68:34Um, but if they can't run the ball and their corners are left on islands against Justin Jefferson, you can absolutely smoke
68:40the entire game with Carson Wentz at quarterback. This team seems like a kind of like fool's gold to me.
68:46And I do think that this Packers team, unless Michael Parsons comes back runs, unless they figure out this offensive line, which
68:53I'm not banking on like this Packers team is going to be very, very frustrating.
68:57Yeah. That sounds about what I was expecting, honestly, uh, from the Packers.
69:01So I'll be interested to go back and rewatch on the Viking side of things.
69:05Hayden, um, pretty any read on like the running back situation in terms of the split between the two guys, like how did the run game look overall?
69:14Cause you know, that's something they really said they wanted to commit to.
69:18Like, did they actually commit to it? Darisaw had a couple awesome runs to spring some explosives.
69:23I think, uh, the, there was a nice touchdown, Aaron Jones, where he was out in front.
69:28And then obviously the Jordan Mason is a 28 yarder.
69:31It felt like it felt like a lot more than 28 yards.
69:34Maybe Jordan Mason's not that fast in that it just felt like he was running for so long, but not actually picking up that many yards.
69:42Uh, they both scored goal line touchdown. So I think Aaron Jones is from four yards out.
69:47Jordan Mason was actually from like one yard out.
69:50So it's going to be a pretty even split.
69:52Uh, neither of them were like really used in the past game.
69:56Like even Aaron Jones goes catchless in this one.
69:59The entire past game was to Justin Jefferson. There was a, uh, free play situation where Carson Wentz, uh, looks to his right.
70:06Justin Jefferson's to his left. He kind of realizes like, Oh, maybe I should throw this ball to Justin Jefferson.
70:12If it's a free play finally does it in the back of the end zone, Justin Jefferson comes down with it.
70:18There was a couple of times where Justin Jefferson's, uh, working behind the line of scrimmage after the ball is snapped, uh,
70:24as little like leak routes to, to the flats.
70:27Both of those were in the red zone. One of them, he takes for a touchdown.
70:32The other one, just a simple reception there. But just the fact that Carson Wentz can make this offense look functional is like makes the J.J.
70:40McCarthy stuff from last year, like so much more damning, like it like truly so much more damning.
70:45The Jefferson floor this year feels so much higher.
70:48Uh, and hopefully we get Kyler Murray, uh, back.
70:50Uh, he, he was pretty much knocked on unconscious, uh, in the first quarter of that one.
70:55So really bummed out for Kyler Murray. We'll see if he comes back, uh, next week or not, but at least Carson
71:02Wentz, like this is not the J.J. McCarthy splits.
71:05This is more like, you know, Nick Mullen. It's more, uh, like Kirk Cousins tier rather than like the J.J.
71:11McCarthy stuff. Yeah. I mean, the, the Carson Wentz of it all, it just shows you that if your name isn't J.J.
71:17McCarthy or Max Brosmer, that Justin Jefferson is going to get there.
71:21It really is that simple. He's that talented that he's going to get there.
71:25Uh, Hayden, just to close this out, we've got two lesser wide receivers on each team that barely did anything.
71:31Okay. So I understand that the Packers out yarded, out gained the Vikings for 19 to two 39.
71:36By the way, they lost by 17 doing that, which is absolutely bonkers.
71:40But we mentioned that Watson had one 47 and two scores, Matthew golden 95 yards.
71:44Uh, I see Jane Reed for three catches for 20 yards.
71:48And then I see Jordan Addison with a total goose egg on a two targets.
71:52Yeah. I'll start with Jaden Reed, 64% of the routes in this game.
71:56They did not mix in another wide receiver very much.
71:59I will say like the last play of the game was an incomplete pass to sky more on a fourth and two.
72:06Um, so like we had like some of that element, but not as much as pre as previous years.
72:11That was, that was for you guys down there.
72:14Uh, instead the Packers did use a real four tight end rotation.
72:18That was because Tucker craft is not a full-time player in this one craft ran 20 of 46 routes.
72:23It was like Johnny Smith, Mark Redman, Josh Wiley.
72:26Those guys were playing at the expense of Jaden Reed.
72:29I would say this is the same exact situation that Jaden Reed has been in for his entire career.
72:35If you guys like that, keep them. If you don't like that, I don't like that personally.
72:40Um, and it does seem like Matthew golden is like the more explosive version of Romeo Dobbs.
72:45Romeo Dobbs is a wide receiver three in fantasy last year.
72:48I can easily see Matthew golden, uh, just a one for one replacing that as Christian Watson, I think has a chance
72:54to be a real upside wide receiver too. And then final question before we get out of here, Tucker craft said he
73:01was going to play about 50% of the snaps until halfway through the season.
73:05You said he'd get two explosives. Anything I test wise you want to bring up here with Tucker craft?
73:11Uh, both of them are wide open. Uh, and I thought he looked totally fine.
73:15It just seems like they're pretty committed to Tucker crafting in a part-time rotation.
73:19So 20 of 46, uh, routes, uh, on the dropbacks out there typically, you know, is 85, 90%.
73:25So I think this is going to be a multi week, uh, scenario for Tucker craft.
73:30He's more of like an upside tight end too.
73:32Then like, you have to start tight end one.
73:35Now, like we'll get to like Harold fan and cop.
73:38That's we chopped off a lot of tight ends and fantasy.
73:41Maybe he still has a top 10, uh, tight end, but this is not the Tucker craft that you were drafting, uh,
73:48hoping for like the November and December production. All right, Matt, we'll send it to you next.
73:53I mean, what game should we go with here?
73:56Let's go Tampa Bay and Cincinnati. All right. Oh, okay.
73:59Your guy Baker Mayfield that you hyped up all morning long, uh, ends the day with two 16, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions, 27 points.
74:06Uh, looks like he does a bit too much for sacks and a fumble on top of it.
74:11Meanwhile, maybe we should start here with the Cincinnati Bengals and the winning team.
74:15Joe Burrow, 25 of 35, two 54, one score.
74:18And like I led off with T Higgins, three for 59, Jamar chase two for 12.
74:23So of course, Mike Kosicki goes five receptions, 78 yards and one score.
74:27So much talk of this Bengals offense looking different with under center dropbacks.
74:30Wasn't that different? Uh, no, they had five dropbacks, uh, from under center.
74:34Four of them came in the second quarter that amounted to three of five for 29 yards.
74:39So they pretty much were like, okay, that's cute.
74:42We're going to stop doing that. Uh, 2.36 time to throw when Joe Burrow was in the gun, despite the sub 16% pressure rate.
74:49So there was a couple of like, oh yeah, Joe Burrow's under pressure here, but it wasn't just like they're getting overwhelmed from a pass protection standpoint.
74:57It just, I don't know. It's the Bengals defense won them this game and maybe the bucks like themselves in the foot won themselves this game, honestly.
75:05And this is one of the more successful week one outings for the Bengals, whether you look at like the Zach Taylor,
75:12Joe Burrow era when they've been out there, but it was not because of the offense whatsoever.
75:17This is just offense felt very weird all day long.
75:20Joe Burrow probably throws one of the worst passes of the day, a pick six to Josiah Trotter, which is just like,
75:26I don't know what he was looking at. I mean, Trotter, you can watch the replay of it.
75:32Trotter is like eyes on him all the way reading what he's going to do.
75:36And he just throws it right to him and he takes it for a pick six, which was the best thing that
75:43the bucks defense probably did all day. Cause those linebackers otherwise were kind of getting worked in the underneath area.
75:49So, um, 10 of 40 from under center for chase Brown, six of 16 from the gun.
75:54So it was just like when we can get under center and run the football looks pretty good, but we're not going
76:00to do that from the shotgun and we're not going to throw from under center.
76:05So it pretty much looked like all those August storylines went in the trash right away.
76:10Hmm. Uh, this Bengals offense and Joe Burrow specifically have been slow starters, Matt.
76:14Unfortunately for them, they also get the Houston Texans defense on the road next week.
76:18So, uh, one of those teams is going to bounce back, you know, the Bengals offense from this passing game standpoint or the Texans defense next week.
76:26So, uh, hopefully this was just kind of early season growing pains, but at least for the Bengals, Matt going through that, they still won the contest.
76:34And typically the Bengals don't win the early season stuff.
76:37Uh, and really it's exactly how we said it should be over the last few years that the defense finally bailed out the offense in a way.
76:45And their defense was flying around. Like I'll give them a lot of credit there.
76:50You definitely felt the difference of having some improved players there.
76:53And like, you know, the linebackers were also, uh, definitely much improved.
76:57Now again, bottom was, or the, the, the bar was in hell in terms of what the linebackers did last year, but
77:03it was a slight improvement this year. Uh, not perfect for sure on that side of the ball.
77:09And like I said, a lot of it was, I think Tampa Bay making their own mistakes here on this one, but
77:15certainly a better improve, uh, improved performance by that defense for sure.
77:19All right. Oh, go ahead, Josh. Go ahead. No, you go.
77:22I mean, I just, the elephant in the room, man, Jamar chase T Higgins.
77:26They didn't do anything like that. Nothing is this, was this just a by-product of rusty week one?
77:31I mean, four targets for chase, like just what was going on?
77:35Like why, why did we not get more Jamar chase looks in this one?
77:39Like people want to know this was wide receiver one, two for everybody coming into the week.
77:44And this is just, this was a bus performance from Jamar chase.
77:48There's no way to sugarcoat it. Like, what did you see?
77:51I don't, honestly, I don't really know that. Cause you never really pushed the football down the field to these guys.
77:57I, they were just getting it out quickly. A lot of just, like I said, get in the gun and get it
78:04to Mike, a sec, you in the slot, all of Mike, a sec, he's production came when lined up as a slot
78:11receiver, except his one touchdown, which was when he was lined up out wide.
78:15So it was a lot of that trying to take advantage of the middle of the field coverage and just not really
78:21throwing it into the teeth, uh, in the perimeter there for Cincinnati.
78:25So probably like a, there's no big takeaways here.
78:27Just stuff happens in terms of Jamar chase. But I did think it was a little odd that they never tried to
78:34kind of get him going a lot with the underneath stuff.
78:37So to me, it was just kind of a random performance, but it just comes to just this weird disjointed Ness that
78:44the Bengals offense kind of carries right now. But hopefully that's just a one week blip.
78:49Okay. Got to ask about the bucks because there were some conversations that we had.
78:53Yeah. We, we had an August about the scene first talk.
78:56We threw like the Bucky Irving, Kenny Gainwell passing down bread zone usage stuff, and then hit on Emeka Buka, Chris Godwin
79:03with a Buka going five for 63 on six targets.
79:06And Chris Godwin four for 40 on his four targets.
79:09Yeah. And all of a Buka's production came in the first half to didn't do anything in the second half.
79:15Nothing there. Um, they were a pretty purely 11 personnel team in this one.
79:1983% of their plays came, uh, out of 11 personnel.
79:22That's 36% higher than the NFL average, according to Sumer sports.
79:25And it did pretty much look like what we thought, uh, where Chris Godwin was in the slot.
79:31He was, he was like the big slot receiver.
79:33Emeka Buka moving around. Uh, and then Ted Hearst was absolutely sacrificial X receiver in this one.
79:38He had one, he had one pretty cool catch for his first NFL reception along the sideline.
79:43Uh, but otherwise averages 1.3 yards per route in 11 personnel.
79:47And yeah, they didn't really dabble in any heavy personnel work, but the big fantasy story is that Bucky Irving, I mean,
79:53pretty bullish past game usage for him. Uh, he runs more routes in 11 personnel, 59% of the routes, 11 personnel, 27%
80:00targets per route run productive, like intentional usage. He has a couple of nice catches on third down in this.
80:06Like, and I thought he looked explosive right away as a rusher too.
80:10So, um, I thought Bucky Irving comes out of this one as a really, really big winner.
80:15And you know, you can kind of say that this is like a little bit of excuse making.
80:20And I think you could do this too for, uh, the next team, uh, I'm going to talk about here in a minute.
80:27It's a new play caller. There's a lot more like motions and shifts and you could tell the bucks were just really
80:34disorganized in that part of it in terms of like Zach Robinson, they're asking him to do a lot, but I mean
80:40the, the turnovers were just abysmal Baker Mayfield sack fumble touchdown on the first one.
80:45Bucky then on third and 14 check down. He fumbles it Baker.
80:48His second, his second fumble is like a really nice little scramble to get out of pressure in the red zone.
80:54And he does this like really exaggerated juke move that he looks like he's like the uncle at the Turkey bowl.
81:01And then right after that fumbles it into the end zone.
81:04And then like, he just got really greedy and carry carried away.
81:07They're just careless, careless stuff. And then he has another sack fumble after that one.
81:12So it was the full Baker Mayfield experience in this game.
81:15There's no question about that. Hey, now I want to ask you, um, we're going to talk about this in stats versus
81:22film, but I would take this with Bucky Irving having what a short yardage touchdown, seven receptions on top of this, that
81:28Bucky Irving behind this offensive line might be one of the biggest winners in face of football in week one.
81:34Yeah. I think, yeah, there's kind of cut this thing into half.
81:38Some of the round five running backs looked bad and some of them looked good.
81:42I think Bucky passes the test here. I was going to just quickly say like, what's the point of Kenny gain well in fantasy?
81:49He runs a route on 36% of dropbacks. He would not be a bell cow back.
81:54If there was an injury here, this was the negative game script.
81:58They were down 24 to 10 going into halftime.
82:00The Bengals defense is set up for receptions underneath with their linebacker core.
82:04Sean Tucker was out. If it's not going to happen at all with Kenny gain well here, then like what truly is the point?
82:12Like, why would you rather have him than tank?
82:14Mike Bigsby, Mike Washington, you named the backup running back with actual fantasy appeal.
82:18If you're starting Kenny gain one fantasy, you've been eliminated.
82:21So like, there's no point to me even rostering him right now.
82:25Hey, Hayden, Hayden, Aaron Rogers likes to talk about psyops and stuff like that.
82:29The biggest psyop that Aaron Rogers has ever been a part of is that he made us think that Kenny gain well
82:36is like some kind of pass game weapon because he just checked to him over and over again.
82:41Yeah. Yeah. I mean, was running like legit downfield routes and that is never going to be replicated and other offense because
82:48the Steelers wide receivers like did not exist last year.
82:51Yeah. Bucky's going to rank high, I think for Boone in our running back rankings this Wednesday because they face the Cleveland Browns in in week two.
82:59He looked great. All right. He looked great. He was most consistent player probably on the offense outside of, like I said, third and 14 check down fumble.
83:07All right. I'll go to the NFC East next as the Philadelphia Eagles squeak by the Washington commanders 24 to 22.
83:13This was not a clean debut for Sean Mannion's Eagle offense.
83:16Their run game did not seem in sync early on.
83:19I mean, Saquon had a sick 42 yard run where he made two commanders run into each other at the line of
83:26scrimmage, then made Mike Sammer still stand still at the third level.
83:30But earlier in the game, he was seen like yelling on the sideline to the offensive line saying like, we got to
83:36get this right in terms of the run blocking.
83:39He was hit behind the line of scrimmage on seven of his opening 12 runs.
83:43It looked a whole lot like 2025 and not in the good way.
83:47And I mean, I even saw Eagles fans questioning if Landon Dickerson is done.
83:51So I mean, he had penalties, instant disruption, sacks like tackles for loss.
83:55It was brutal. And Cam Juergens wasn't that much better than him.
83:59But the passing game for the Eagles actually looked like the best part.
84:03I mean, Jalen Hurts finishes 14 to 25, 203 and three big touchdowns and the big time receiver in the first half.
84:09I love myself a post-hype sleeper. Let's go. That is Dontavian Wicks.
84:1364-yard pass to Dontavian Wicks early on out of 13 personnel under center.
84:17A perfect ball over the head of Mike Sammer still.
84:20That drive ends in a touchdown. Dallas Goddard down the seam from Hurts for defenders.
84:24Four verts perfectly placed. Later on the red zone, you get Dontavian Wicks versus again, Mike Sammer still.
84:29Great route versus the corners inside leverage. A fadeaway throw from Jalen Hurts makes it 14 to three.
84:35And then yes, Devontae Smith checked in a bit later on with the sweet sideline grab on 33 and five for 33 yards.
84:42And Dallas Goddard got his second touchdown. Actually legitimately running away from the commander's defense.
84:46That was just very confused in their coverage. I do want to shout out this commander's defense though.
84:51Like Durante Jones got them ready in many ways.
84:54Uh, Sonny Styles had an unreal sack where he ran through, I think a nice block by Saquon Barkley, but submarine Tim,
85:01like just threw him to the turf and sacks Jalen Hurts.
85:04Javon Kinlaw was popping up. It just looked a lot more creative and had some interesting Minnesota Vikings wrinkles to it.
85:10Uh, and they gave Jalen Hurts in this Eagles offense, a lot of fits.
85:14And if my Saquon Barkley, uh, prediction is going to pay off this new rushing scheme has to look a whole lot better in week two, Ray.
85:22Yeah. And I don't know how it's going to, because the offensive line was shaky last year.
85:28It was shaky last year. If you would have told me one defense was going to have 10 tackles for a loss
85:34and five quarterback hits, I thought it would be Philadelphia's defense against an inoperable offense that everyone said the commanders was, but it was the complete opposite.
85:42Like give them a ton of credit, but yeah, I I'm with you, Josh.
85:46I've got high hopes for Saquon Barkley. You still see some of the sweet moves that he has when he hits the
85:53open field, when he's one-on-one it's, it's lunch. It's barbecue chicken for Saquon Barkley.
85:57I, I I'm, I'm just looking at the numbers in the box score here.
86:0125 attempts for Hurts, 25 attempts from Hurts. And we're saying that this was the best kind of part of the offense.
86:08It's just going to be slim pickings going around, looking at these pass catchers.
86:12If Goddard's going to have his role, Wicks Smith.
86:15And then I'm looking at that three for negative five, Josh, I'm looking at three.
86:19I was going to bring that up. Come on.
86:22Talk to me. Yeah. I mean, we talked about some zeros for Jordan Addison and Colson Loveland.
86:27Uh, Makai Lemon, if you're the standard league gave you negative points on three catches for negative five yards.
86:32Um, he did have a three yard gain, but then he had a couple of negative screen passes on it as well
86:39to get himself some, some negative yardage. Uh, so this is like the Devante Smith, Danteven Wicks, uh, Dallas Goddard show at the early park.
86:46I will add some of those 25 dropbacks was more because Jalen Hurts, Hayden, you brought this up all summer long, looked
86:53leaner, looked meaner, looked like his scrambling self, seven carries for 46 yards, including like a pivotal, uh, I think like a
87:00third and 18 that he runs up the gut for 22 yards.
87:03So that was his jail at a free card, you know, a couple of years ago or even last year.
87:09Last year in one contest, but he probably looks just as good as he did in like 2024 running the football.
87:15Yeah, that's encouraging. I didn't like that. You said that Landon Dickerson might be the one that's kind of falling apart because
87:22he was the one that seemed like to have the most, just like the most downside because of the injuries and like he was contemplating retirement.
87:30Like this is going to be the week one showing with like quite frankly, a bunch of no namers like the commanders
87:36had more pressures than the Eagles did in this game.
87:39Like that, that to me is, is worrisome for, for Philadelphia.
87:42I will say on the pass catchers, Goddard wicks, lemon Smith, they were all out there for at least 29 of the 35 dropbacks.
87:50Like this offense really is like not about snap rates.
87:53It's like, let the best man win over the course of the season.
87:56I feel pretty confident it's going to be Devante Smith by himself and the rest of these guys kind of alternating, but
88:03we don't have to worry about like Mackay lemon, not playing enough snaps.
88:07Like if he's good in this offense, he will appear that might just take a little bit of time.
88:13Yeah. And I'll add that Will Shipley was in there for like the one minute drive, which was interesting to me that it wasn't Saquon.
88:20Just something to keep in mind in the back of your head on the commanders front.
88:25Feel bad for David Blau drawing your first time being a play caller up against this defense like Vic Fangio, not fun first draw.
88:32And it showed, I mean, Terry McLaurin did not get a catch until 434 left in the game.
88:37We somewhat expected that, you know, that you get Fangio, you get Quinion Mitchell and Rick Wollin on the outside.
88:43Brandon Coleman allowed a ton of pressures at left tackle.
88:46They kind of consistently found themselves behind the sticks and behind schedule.
88:50And so that forced Jane Daniels into this playmaker style.
88:53And he popped up here with, you know, some really cool scrambles on a 14 yarder spin moves, all that type of stuff with five carries for 31.
89:01But in the day, just 18 of 34, 164, two touchdowns.
89:04Like the gimmies weren't there for this team. I think Stefan Diggs kind of had two drops that would have shortened the
89:11sticks a bit more, but they made it close in the end.
89:15You know, they were a two point conversion away from setting this to overtime, basically at 24, 24.
89:20And then again, David Blau pops up of, hey, the gotta have it short yardage play.
89:25I run a shovel pass to John Bates and that's where I'm going to go home and start 0-1 with.
89:31Yeah, not what you want in terms of the play call there.
89:34Josh, I did note that Antonio Williams, rookie receiver, is the most productive receiver on the day, but he is sixth in routes.
89:41What happened with that one? So it's funny. I mean, all training camp, we heard that Traylon Burks was starting as an
89:48outside wide receiver and Traylon Burks was out there on the field today.
89:51But like you said, Antonio Williams pops up for 4-64-1 compared to Stefan Diggs' 4-55-1.
89:56And then Chig left about halftime and he was a third best receiver with two for 16 with an injury.
90:02Antonio Williams was running a bunch of like condensed splits, slot-ish stuff, even at times he was the outside wide receiver and
90:08just kind of running across the formation and outrunning those corners that were kind of trailing him or in zone coverage.
90:15And as for Diggs, he was, again, kind of schooling Cooper Dejean.
90:18We've seen some of these like veteran old school slot-ish wide receivers like Stefan Diggs did this to him.
90:24Adam Thielen did this to Cooper Dejean and just kind of routed him up at the top.
90:29And, you know, Diggs scored a really nice touchdown and then celebrated by sliding down the touchdown pole on top of it.
90:36So never change, buddy. Never change. At that point, the commanders were only down by two.
90:40And so then his celebration penalty forced them into like a 45-yard extra point try and prohibited them from trying to go
90:47for two to tie up the game that was like 16-16 at the moment.
90:51So, yeah, Stefan Diggs never changed. Josh, can I ask you, we talked about Kenneth Gainwell being a psyop running back.
90:57Yes. The eye test for me looked like Bill Krosky-Merritt.
91:00I don't care that it says 3.9 in a 10th.
91:03He looked like by far the best running back.
91:06Like, what are we doing with Rashad White? He's supposed to be this pass-catching maven.
91:10He had, what, one catch, two catches on the day.
91:13Is this the Bill backfield? Should it be the Bill Krosky-Merritt backfield?
91:17It should absolutely be the Bill backfield. And his first carry went for 10 yards.
91:21Like, his second carry went for 11 yards. He got the goal line touchdown on top of that.
91:27He just has more juice, more strength than Rashad White.
91:30They actually kept Rashad White in there for one third and one.
91:33He got suffer a loss, obviously, and they had to punt.
91:37Look, if you have Jayden Daniels at quarterback, you're not going to dump it off to Rashad White often.
91:42Like, that is the theory of the play with Rashad White.
91:46They have a pocket passer that he racks up some PPR scam stuff.
91:49And you just don't do that when you're Jayden Daniels can extend and get to the sideline or throw it away or sometimes scramble on top of it.
91:58So, yeah, Rashad White, still not an effective runner.
92:00I will add that Bill fumbled a bit later on.
92:03Josh Connolly fell on it, so it didn't turn into a negative play.
92:07And then Katron Allen did pop in there for a couple of those runs after Bill.
92:12But when they go back and review it, again, just the size, the movement, the power of Bill just totally overshadows what
92:19Rashad White brings to the table here. And how did Jayden look?
92:22Just, like, how did he look? He was injured last year.
92:25Did he look good? Did he feel good about him moving forward?
92:29He looked fine? Okay. I mean, he took some hits.
92:32He got back up. And there were some off-target passes.
92:35It looked like a new offense. Again, they had some mechanical, you know, false starts, formation, some weird timeouts from Dan Quinn.
92:42It just looked like they were in the first time of a new offense.
92:46I don't want to judge them too harshly for facing Vic Fangio, because I think that's like the worst thing to roll up on on week one.
92:54I'm in wait and see with this commander's offense.
92:56It did feel at times where I don't know if it's going to make sense that David Blau was like calling plays at times versus running an offense.
93:05Like they would do the under center stuff because now it's everything's involved and that's exactly what the league is supposed to do.
93:12And yet it just ended with Jayden Daniels running for his life.
93:15And just out of a different formation and different look.
93:18So we'll see. I'm in wait and see mode for for David Blau.
93:22Okay, Matt, we're going to send it back to you to close up this one.
93:27It's the upset of the day. I mean, it has to be the upset of the day as what?
93:32Nine and a half point underdogs as the Arizona Cardinals beat the LA Chargers, not by a little bit, but by 12 points, 26 to 14.
93:40You have been Cardinals curious this entire summer and it paid off.
93:44Yeah, I was going to say when Hayden mentioned don't search LaFleur on Twitter.
93:48If you're going to do it, just make sure you get the right LaFleur because man is Mike LaFleur, the new guy people are saying.
93:55We'll see how I can get you guys Cardinals curious by the end of this recap because they were by far not even close.
94:02The better team on the field today. It was this is this is embarrassing.
94:06This is an embarrassing game for the Chargers. Just just straight up.
94:10Like I do want to talk about the Cardinals first, but you know what?
94:14I was going to say like, well, you know, Bucks, new offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson, Mike McDaniel, new offensive coordinator here.
94:20These are complicated offenses with a lot of shifts, a lot of motion.
94:24We saw the Bears and the Jags kind of struggle with this last year with new play callers taking over what were very static offenses previously.
94:32At the same time, you can give all those same caveats to the team on the other side here in the Arizona Cardinals.
94:39And this team there looked crisp. They handled everything really professionally.
94:42Like Jacoby Brissett in the first half was in total control of this offense.
94:4616 completions on 21 pass attempts. All three of his top pass catchers there, McBride, Marv, Wilson, all of them lost like what I would call tough catches.
94:55None of them were just like, oh, man, that's a drop or something like that.
94:59It was just really tough, like kind of you got to adjust to it.
95:03He maybe threw it a little bit where he didn't want it.
95:07They had to extend for it. And then he had a risky throwaway when in the grasp of Khalil Mack to avoid
95:13running out the clock to close the first half.
95:16But those were his only like real incompletions overall.
95:19He was, like I said, in total control of this offense.
95:22Jeremiah Love, you immediately are just like, oh, yeah, that guy is really good at football.
95:27Like first touchdown on the opening drive. It was five touches to four between Jeremiah Love and Tyler Algier in the opening quarter.
95:34And it's just like, yeah, one of these guys moves differently.
95:37Like it's really good to have him out there and like kind of winning in tight spaces at the line of scrimmage.
95:44Just finding an extra lane as a dump off receiver to just keeping the offense moving.
95:48It's like, yeah, I know third overall running back value, whatever.
95:52Kind of helpful to have that guy on the offense.
95:55And the other guy we got to give a shout out to Kendrick Bourne does his best Khalif Raymond impression as the
96:01like, hey, I know that I've worked with the coach previously.
96:04I know this offense boys like saddle up for a lot of targets to Kendrick Bourne.
96:09He was awesome in this game. So, yeah, Brissette, obviously McBride was was McBride.
96:13Jeremiah Love. And then the receivers kind of chipped in along the way.
96:17Marv had a really nice 33 yard tight coverage win along the sideline.
96:21Michael Wilson kind of started slow, but picked up later has about 50 yards in this game.
96:26So, like I said, just really organized, really crisp.
96:29And they ultimately ran 72 plays to 51 for the Chargers.
96:32The Chargers would just go long periods without having the ball because the drives were about equals.
96:3711 drives to Arizona, 10 to Los Angeles. But just the Cardinals could stay on the field and the Chargers couldn't.
96:43Matt, let's spin this forward because the Cardinals in the next two games, I'm glad they won in week one.
96:49It's Seattle and San Francisco over the next two, right?
96:52What do you expect with the backfield? Obviously, Jeremiah Love gets there.
96:56He scores a touchdown. 11 carries 41. I'm surprised it's only two receptions for nine yards.
97:01Do you think the backfield is going to look with this split or as Jeremiah Love still recovers from the high ankle
97:07sprain, it's just going to be more and more and more in his direction?
97:11I think it'll just be more and more in Jeremiah's direction.
97:15He just is pretty clearly. I mean, Algier is not going to go away.
97:19He's a good back and he did help them early on and grind things out late.
97:24He'll still be involved, but I think it will tilt more and more to the rookie's favor.
97:29Okay. And then one follow-up on the Cardinals. I see McBride 9 for 95 and 1.
97:33I see Michael Wilson 5 for 56. That doesn't even mention Kendrick Bourne's 8 for 75.
97:38If you're saying that this offense is well coached and it was on point and they were ready to play, I see Marvin Harrison Jr.
97:463 targets, 1 reception, 33 yards. I don't want to say it's over already, but that's kind of fifth option on this offense, it seems.
97:53That's tough to see. The Bourne stuff definitely throws a wrench, I think, for both of these wide receivers, which I liked.
98:00I mean, I drafted a ton of Michael Wilson and kind of sprinkled in Marvin Harrison.
98:04So the Bourne variable is definitely one I probably wish I had considered a little bit more because he's a good player.
98:11Like I said, he was with Michael LaFleur when they were together as the wide receiver coach with the San Francisco 49ers.
98:18I don't think he's going away. He runs a route on about 77% of the dropbacks, which was a decent bit behind both Wilson, McBride, and Harrison.
98:26But when he was out there, he was getting targeted.
98:29So that definitely throws a wrench in any like Marvin Harrison Jr., big leap forward.
98:33Michael Wilson sustaining what he did last year. Because obviously Trey McBride is the guy and was the one we all ranked the highest.
98:40But I wouldn't say it's I definitely don't think it's over for Marv.
98:44Like he did again. He had one really nice reception in this game.
98:48But, you know, is he someone I'm starting against the Seahawks next week?
98:52No, definitely not. Okay. I'll ask the questions with the Chargers because Matt, I saw three catches for like 60 yards on
98:58the opening drive that Ladd McConkie and Mike McDaniel had together.
99:02And I was like, I'm going to eat good all season long.
99:05The Chargers are just going to put it on the board week after week, drive after drive.
99:10And then what? He exits the game after seven targets, five receptions, 82 yards and a touchdown.
99:15And no one can function from there. What the hell happened?
99:19I mean, this if you were one of the people, you know, and I was one of these people, I think I
99:25think you guys all were that thought that it's Ladd McConkie.
99:28And then like, okay, there's some interesting players, but like a pretty significant drop off between one and two.
99:34You absolutely felt that the moment that Ladd left this game.
99:37Because, I mean, first drive, it's three completions for 60 yards from Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel's offense.
99:43They all go to Ladd McConkie, 18 yards, 23 yards, 19 yards, explosive plays, doing exactly what you would imagine from him.
99:49His fourth target is a long pass interference on first and 20.
99:53Then he has another 14-yard catch, a touchdown in the red zone.
99:56And then, you know, Justin Herbert kind of throws it a little high on an in-breaking route later in the game.
100:03And he just gets popped in the ribs. And that's kind of like this is a little bit of the Ladd McConkie experience, right?
100:10It's he looks really great. I love him as a player.
100:13But my one question with him is, like, does he have the body to sustain a lot of punishment one week in?
100:20And kind of a discouraging answer. And like you said, Josh, they could not function after he was gone.
100:25The Chargers averaged 12.4 yards to go on third down today.
100:29That's one of the more disgusting stats. And then, I mean, late in this game, this is from Jordan Roderick, our friend,
100:35who also is Cardinals Curious, by the way. Chargers were down 23-14.
100:39Offense takes over. Penalty, penalty, penalty. Pass breakup. Burn a timeout to avoid a delay of game penalty.
100:44Pass for 12 yards on third and 30. Short pass on fourth and 18 penalty turnover on downs.
100:49Like, it was not good. Like, the offensive line was probably worse than we would have expected.
100:55The run game was, you know, like, Amari and Hampton had some moments.
100:58Keaton Mitchell was mixing in a lot earlier than I would have thought.
101:02But Hampton, like, he looks great when he's just going downhill.
101:06But, you know, we got to kind of change directions a little bit faster there.
101:10A lot of questions for this one coming out here.
101:13I do think we need to spend more time on the run game, though, because I think this was like, you're going
101:20to get explosives and that's going to help Herbert kind of calm things down a little bit.
101:25They had negative yards before contact in this one.
101:27The Chargers did. Yeah, the line was not good.
101:30That's that's really bad. I haven't loved Amari and Hampton's vision, so I can't wait to go back and watch this big.
101:37All right, this is the guards fault or this is the center's fault or is this Hampton's fault?
101:42Like, seeing in there just a little bit. That's kind of like how Amari and Hampton can finish as like the RB12
101:48instead of like the RB7 or something like that.
101:51So, yeah, super disappointing season or game for Hampton and Justin Herbert.
101:55Yep, Matt, like I don't want to take this too far.
101:58So often there are things after week one that stay as fact for the next 17 weeks.
102:03But there's always like those one or two games that we jump to conclusions and we look stupid for jumping to conclusions.
102:10I am at least hoping that the Chargers are one of these teams that just put their worst foot forward in week
102:16one and it just gets better from here. But I don't know some of the things that you're talking up of how
102:23that might not come to pass leaves me nervous as in poor blocking.
102:27Yeah, guard center guard combo. Not great. Wide receivers behind Lad McConkie.
102:30I mean, QJ does nothing here. Trey Harris does nothing here.
102:33Aranda Gadsden, two for 32. And then once Lad leaves, it's David Njoku for five for 58.
102:39What are we doing? And like I said, just completely overwhelmed on the interior offensive line in the run and pass game.
102:45So, you know, that's definitely going to make the receivers look worse.
102:49But I certainly don't think they have anything more than a maybe interesting wide receiver three in Quinton Johnson and a maybe
102:55interesting rotational player in Trey Harris behind Lad McConkie.
102:58So he definitely is the straw that stirs the drink on this one.
103:02And when he was out of there, like I said, they just they had absolutely nothing in the second half, which was super discouraging.
103:09I wouldn't I'm not going to full on panic on the Chargers.
103:12And like I said, to be fair, even though the Cardinals beat this accusation, I do think like what the Jags looked
103:19like in the first half of last year in the Bears is instructive.
103:23It's a new offense. It's really complicated. A lot of changes.
103:26And that that can cause a team to look disjointed.
103:29And hopefully they pick it up here in short order.
103:32But really discouraging debut. Matt, I'll just say this was pretty damn disappointing.
103:36This Cardinals team, everybody projected them to be the worst team in the NFL, picking number one overall, lowest amount of touchdowns scored in there on the road.
103:44And they put BTA on the Chargers. I mean, Hampton looked pretty bad when I was watching them.
103:50I'm like, come on, dude. Like this is yeah, they need to get it together.
103:54This was this is inexcusable, in my opinion. Right.
103:57To that point, like the Chargers need to start fast.
104:00Your two opening games were the Cardinals and the Raiders.
104:03And then after that, it's Buffalo, Seattle, both on the road.
104:06Then Denver, Kansas City, the Rams, the Texans and the Ravens.
104:09Like you had to start to know the season.
104:12So they better freaking bounce back next week against the Raiders or else we're in a big, big, big trouble here.
104:18And Ray, that's a perfect transition into your game as the Raiders start one and oh on the season.
104:24I was Dolphins curious, Matt. And that did not turn out to be good here in week one in a game that they should and could win.
104:32But the Raiders, this is their easiest matchup in the opening 11 weeks.
104:3627 points on this Dolphins defense. Kirk Cousins, 21 to 30, just for 160 yards.
104:40Three touchdowns, two interceptions. But Ray, the headliner, I guess, is Ashton Gentry.
104:4423 carries, 102 yards. And he's also the team's leading receiver.
104:47Six receptions, 45 and two scores. Yeah, I thought I thought his ankle was broken.
104:52I thought it was hanging on by a thread.
104:55Prayer candles in circles, turning the music down. Ashton Gentry became only the 10th player since 1999 with 100 rushing yards and
105:01at least two receiving TDs in the same regular season game.
105:04I mean, he looked great. Great as the primary running back.
105:08Michael Mayer led them in targets. So he was the Brock Bowers' replacement.
105:12He was not Brock Bowers' levels of good. I almost fumbled the ball in this one.
105:16But I'll just say the biggest takeaway watching this was Clint Kubiak was very much in command.
105:21The offense looked good. The Raiders put up 27 points in this one.
105:25And as nasty as the game felt, like Miami's just so young, y'all.
105:29This is the youngest team in the league. I didn't think Malik Willis was great, but he also wasn't awful in this matchup.
105:36But it was just, it was too much Ashton Gentry downhill in the receiving game.
105:41He was everything for the Raiders. I thought Mike Washington played well, but this is somebody you do not want to flex.
105:47You don't want to play those games. There was nothing from Trey Tucker, nothing from Jalen Naylor.
105:52One of Kirk Cousins' interceptions actually came on another target to Jack Besh, who scored a touchdown in this one.
105:58It'd be interesting to watch his snaps and his participation moving forward.
106:02But the big takeaway is if Gentry's going to be this involved on the ground and through the air, he's going to be awesome.
106:09He was incredible in this one. And I can only imagine how much better he can get down the line.
106:15Clint Kubiak was great. Like, he just called an awesome game plan at one point.
106:19They had like a nine-minute drive, just eating up clock.
106:22Just, they played really good ball against, obviously, a very young and not very good team in Miami.
106:28But the Raiders were, the Raiders were solid for their first outing.
106:31Yeah, I love seeing no sacks for Kirk Cousins.
106:34Like, to me, like, that's a sign of good coaching.
106:37Is there free rushers coming at you and hitting your quarterback?
106:40Is there, like, negative four-yard carries all the time?
106:43It does not seem like we had that much ball.
106:46Ray, explain the, like, Ashton Gentry, like, types of targets.
106:49I think both of those were, what, end zone targets?
106:52Did he, like, leak out? Like, was his design stuff?
106:55Like, what level of receptions could we expect from Ashton Gentry here?
106:58Oh, no, man. He was looking like CMC out there, Hayden.
107:02It wasn't just, like, swing routes out of the backfield.
107:05I mean, his first touchdown, I mean, he was, it was downfield.
107:08There were some yards down there, right? He had a nice little angle route.
107:12Got the touchdown. I thought it was a receiver.
107:15I was like, oh, man, that's Ashton Gentry, number two there.
107:18And then they got him again. It was very creative how Kubiak was deploying Gentry out of the backfield.
107:24And you can tell early on whether it was through the air or on the ground.
107:29Like, the game plan was get the ball out of Kirk Cousins' hands quickly and get the ball to Ashton Gentry.
107:35Like, he was, like, sneakily a lot better than we probably expected last year through the air.
107:40And to start off this year doing the same thing that he kind of left off doing last season, like, I feel a lot.
107:47I mean, six receptions for 45 yards and two touchdowns for your, for what most people consider, like, this grinder, bell cow type running back.
107:55It was, it was a great performance from Ashton Gentry.
107:58And I don't even think he's 100% running out there right now.
108:01So, hey, now, I would say, I mean, this, this six catches, five, six receptions, I think we should be banking on that pretty much weekly from Gentry.
108:09Interesting. I mean, to me, part of this is how bad Miami is.
108:13Like, they are rough both on offense and especially on defense.
108:17Like, no defensive linemen. Their linebackers are fine, but their corners and safeties are atrocious.
108:21Like, this is the easiest game that the Raiders have on the schedule for the next 11 weeks.
108:26So that's something I want to keep in mind.
108:29Ray, I did want to ask you, typically with Fent Kubiak passing offenses, it's downfield explosives.
108:34It seemed like that wasn't the case here. It was more kind of underneath stuff, intermediate-ish.
108:39How do they fill in for Brock Bowers? Like, what was the usage with Jack Bash and Michael Mayer and those types?
108:45Yeah, Mayer was right there at the top, right?
108:48Seven targets for Mayer and I believe another seven targets for Ashton Gentry.
108:52So, well, six for Gentry, seven for Mayer. Best really wasn't involved after halftime much.
108:56I'll just say, like, none of the receivers really felt like they were a big part of the game plan.
109:02There wasn't a lot of stuff down the field.
109:05It really felt, I mean, 5.3 yards average for Kirk Cousins.
109:08It was get the ball out of his hands as quick as possible.
109:12Like, he was not taking five and seven-step drops.
109:15There was no play action to shoot it downfield.
109:17It was get it out quick. Michael Mayer, not a lot on his receptions either.
109:225.3 yards of reception for Michael Mayer. It was quick.
109:25It was get it out. Like, it just felt like Las Vegas knew that they could get the dub.
109:30And it was, let's do what we need to to get up out of here, keep everybody healthy.
109:36At one point, like Mendoza, they're showing him on the sideline.
109:39I was like, did something happen to Kirk Cousins?
109:42Two interceptions from Kirk. You're going to get what you get from that angle.
109:46But I highly doubt, without Bowers, the way that Mayer was deployed in the route was not the way that Bowers was deployed.
109:53They play two completely different tight end roles, which makes me think that when Bowers is back, like, that's where your explosives come from, from Brock Bowers.
110:01And then Mayer is still kind of like an underneath outlet option.
110:04We got the report from this morning that Brock Bowers, like, has a chance to play this next week.
110:10With the win, can we just, like, buy him another week maybe?
110:14Can we just, like, take this guy's career seriously for once in our lifetime?
110:18My other note from this one, Chris Johnson, a first-round corner, and this tends to happen with rookie corners.
110:24He was targeted 12 times in this game. So that's just, like, something I always like to figure out is where are
110:30the rookie corners that are actually playing? Because offensive coordinators, especially good ones like Kubiak, tend to just, like, target them because those guys' heads are spinning.
110:38And I think that's something we have to pay attention to with Miami.
110:42Ray, let me ask you about Miami's offense. Malik Willis, 15-27, 220 in interception.
110:46Five sacks taken. He's also the team's leading rusher.
110:49Six carries, 39 yards, one score. Devon A. Chan on the day as a round 1-2 turn running back.
110:5411 carries, 36 yards. Four catches, 30 yards. Against the Las Vegas Raiders defense in negative game script.
111:00And then their receivers, Caleb Douglas, 5 for 94.
111:03Malik Washington, 3 for 53. Believe all of that was in the second half.
111:07And then Chris Bell, just one catch for 25.
111:09Overall, first look at this Dolphins offense. What was your takeaway?
111:13Not the same as last year. Like, that was the big takeaway.
111:16It's, it was not the same. That the involvement, even the announcers were saying, A.
111:21Chan is a very good pass catcher. Why are they not throwing him the ball?
111:2594.1% of backfield opportunities. Jalen Wright had one carry, zero routes, no targets.
111:29It was all A. Chan, but 11 carries. There wasn't much.
111:32Like, the offensive line was overmatched. Max Crosby was giving Malik Willis hell all game.
111:37Quiddie Paye was all over him. I think both of those players had two sacks in the game.
111:42A. Chan, you love the 16, you know, 16 touches by A.
111:46Chan. You love the 21 routes. But the line has got to play better.
111:50Harmon, we kind of talked about the line. They got an all pro up there at their center position.
111:56Brewer. And they've got all these additions. You draft Caden Proctor.
111:59But it was just a rough outing. Like, this Raiders defensive line gave them fits.
112:03Caleb Douglas looked good. Chris Bell had one catch down the field.
112:07Malik Washington in the second half looked fine. This is, you know, Malik Willis.
112:11He threw for 220. He ran for a touchdown, which you're hoping that he can continue to do.
112:16And he looked fine in that. But it's very obvious that they're just lacking weapons.
112:21They're lacking big-time playmakers. They've got no tight end.
112:24Like, they didn't even get Greg Dolchich involved. I don't know what slowick, what his game plan was in this one.
112:30It just felt like they wanted Willis to drop back and deal.
112:33And that's not the type of quarterback that he is.
112:36You got to do a little more. There was not a lot of RPO stuff with Willis.
112:41It was drop back and try to dissect the defense.
112:44And he was incapable of doing that. All right.
112:47We'll head to the next game. And this one should be quick.
112:51Pittsburgh Steelers 20. Atlanta Falcons 13. Because this one went as expected.
112:54Cooper Rush cannot function. Just simply cannot function. And the Falcons offense was entirely B.
112:59John Robinson. I mean, I can talk through that immediately if you want me to.
113:03Where he had 29 opportunities. B. John Robinson did.
113:06Brian Robinson had nine carries. And then the wide receivers and tight ends combined for six touches.
113:11Oh. I mean, come on. I mean, it's so bad.
113:14I can go quickly through how awful it was.
113:17Like, there was a second and 19. Kyle Pitts was open down the scene.
113:21He wins one-on-one versus Jalen Ramsey. Cooper Rush, like, gets the yips.
113:24Underthrows it. And it's broken up. The passes to Drake London were high and wide and all over the place.
113:30His touchdown to B. John Robinson was B. John lining up at wide receiver.
113:34It was a wide receiver screen. So it had a negative A dot.
113:38And then he takes it for, like, a 24-yard touchdown himself.
113:42Kevin Zafancy just realized that if the ball doesn't get in Seven's hands, the ball isn't moving at all.
113:47Cooper Rush had a middle-of-field interception that was horrible.
113:50Cooper Rush then threw a pick six to T.J.
113:53Watt when he was trying to have a swing pass to the running back out of the backfield.
113:58And T.J. Watt just grabbed it and ran into the end zone.
114:02This was a brutal, brutal watch. Now, on the opposite end for the Pittsburgh Steelers, there were some, you know, moments.
114:08I mean, obviously, every so often, Aaron Rodgers would have, like, some nice downfield passes, like a long shot to Roman Wilson.
114:14Pass interference on A.J. Terrell, that would have been a touchdown.
114:18An out-of-structure second down touchdown to Pat Fryermuth, second phase play in the red zone.
114:22He had another pass interference with D.K. Metcalf, and then D.K.
114:25was also called for OPI later on. We can talk about the running back rotation because that might have been the most notable takeaway.
114:33But, yeah, I mean, the Falcons are an unserious organization, and I feel bad for you for as long as Cooper Rush
114:39starts for your Drake London and Cal Pitchers. It's just so early to be talking about a Cooper Rush start.
114:45Like, it's week one. It's so, so early. Josh, I don't know if this just adds to the pain or if you
114:52could even stomach noticing something like this, but can you tell me anything about, like, Drake London's alignment and usage?
114:58Because this is... It doesn't even matter. I know it doesn't matter.
115:01I know it doesn't matter, but it matters for me personally.
115:04So, you know. Matt, it didn't matter for me live.
115:07I was watching another game while this one was on the second screen.
115:11I'm sure we'll talk about it in stats versus film, but I don't think it matters as much if Drake London was at the X or the Z.
115:20Heck, if he was in the backfield. Like, none of...
115:23I mean, you've got to carry in this game because Cooper Rush was so panicked quickly going through his reads.
115:29He has no out-of-structure ability to his game. Like, Michael Penix off of four knee surgeries is going to be so much
115:35better than Cooper Rush in this offense, and I can't wait for the day that Michael Penix is back under center here, Hayden.
115:42Listen, but guys, I just wanted to have something to ask.
115:45I don't know why. I got an answer for you.
115:48Drake London 10 snaps in the slot. Does that move anything for you, Matt?
115:52It's 16%. 16%. That's got to be, like, one of his lowest.
115:56Josh, real talk. If Rush starts again, are you benching London and Pitts week two of the doggone season?
116:02Just, I'm not playing them. Well, I mean, week two of the doggone season, they faced the Carolina Panthers, who just dropped 59 points.
116:09So if there ever was a week, if there ever was a week, Cooper, now is the time to do it.
116:15The Steelers running back room was really interesting. It was mostly drive-by-drive early on, but that ended with Rico Dowdle 39 snaps to Jalen Warren's 25 snaps.
116:23Jalen Warren did fumble on a screen early on.
116:26He also had 15 total touches, including five receptions, compared to Dowdle's, I think, 10 total touches.
116:31Both got red zone snaps here. So I don't know how much we can read into any of this stuff other than,
116:37you know, one guy fumbling, and it's not like one guy is running away with the job here in week one either, Hayden.
116:44Well, I will say the split between passes and carries in this game is staggering, considering how inept the Falcons' offense was.
116:51They dropped back, what, 42 times for the Steelers, and that's 18 carries for the Steelers.
116:56Like, that is a huge split. Like, that would be, like, leading the NFL in neutral pass rate if this holds.
117:02And, like, we have seen McCarthy dial up crazy pass-first offenses here.
117:05Like, if that's the offense that we're getting, and maybe that's just because the Falcons have no pass rushers, they can't stop
117:12the run either, so, like, you can go either way here.
117:15I think that would be a pretty big win for Jalen Warren.
117:19Like, the fact that he got six targets in this game and they felt like they probably had a good chance of
117:25winning this throughout, that, to me, leans like this would be Warren over Rico Dowdle.
117:30Yeah, we'll see. I mean, Rico was in there a lot, too.
117:33And I think Mike McCarthy really liked him just based on how that flow of the game was going.
117:39Troy Fultano left at some point in this one.
117:42So, the first-round pick, Max Iron Atcher, came in at right tackle, and then their right tackle moved over to left tackle.
117:48I also want to add Chris Lindstrom, the Falcons' best offensive lineman, left a concussion in this contest, too.
117:54So, that goes from bad to worse there. Pat Frymuth is, again, someone that Aaron Rodgers had talked up in terms of
118:00filling in for Michael Pittman, who was injured. Now, Michael Pittman is the leading receiver here.
118:05DK's, we'll talk about DK in Sass vs. Film.
118:08He had, like, hidden yardage, both that he gave up because of OPI, and that was taken away for DPI, too.
118:14So, it doesn't show up here, but I really do believe DK was the wide receiver one for this team, and it
118:21shows up in the 10 targets, but again, just four catches for 40 yards on top of that.
118:26Okay. Ray, we'll go through this. While I was wrong about the Dolphins being frisky in Week 1, I was correct about
118:33the Jets being frisky as they dominate the Tennessee Titans, 23-10.
118:36Geno Smith, 19-24, 250. Brees Hall, 22 carries, 102 yards and a score.
118:40Garrett Wilson, 6-79. Adonai Mitchell, 3-60. Jets fans are in heaven.
118:43They should feel good. They should feel great after this one because the Jets look like a, I mean, they just look so much more prepared.
118:51It was the best players on the field. Every position, both sides of the ball, belonged to the New York Jets.
118:57Omar Cooper Jr. starts that thing off with a 30-yard reception on the first drive.
119:02Then he sprains his ankle and he leaves. Kenyon Sadiq, rushing score.
119:05Brees Hall and Braylon Allen looked great. Braylon Allen also had, I think it was close to a 20-yard touchdown run, called back due to a holding penalty.
119:13Brees Hall getting all the work out of the backfield.
119:16I mean, he's just spinning off at defenders. Bell Cal Brees.
119:20I thought Braylon Allen played exceptionally well. And Geno Smith was good.
119:23He did what he needed to do. No touchdowns, no interceptions, no sacks.
119:27He was only hit one time. This Tennessee defense could do nothing to get Geno Smith off his mark, under pressure.
119:33And he got the ball to Garrett Wilson. 30% target share, as Garrett Wilson always does.
119:38Brees Hall and Braylon Allen led the backfield. Wasn't a big day from Kenyon Sadiq, but he's healthy.
119:44He finished the game. And I was pleasantly surprised with what I saw from the Jets' offense side of the ball.
119:50Ray, can I ask about Garrett Wilson? Was there any slot involvement?
119:53It looked like he's kind of a part-time player here.
119:5623 routes on 28% of the dropbacks. Was that because of the game at the end?
120:01Or was anything different about Garrett Wilson as we can actually probably take him serious for the first time as a potential top 15 fantasy receiver?
120:09Yeah, if you watch it back, which I highly don't recommend you do, Hayden.
120:13They moved him around quite a bit. He was all over the place, downfield work.
120:17It wasn't like cheap, gimmicky stuff for Garrett Wilson.
120:20And there was another one, his one target that he didn't get.
120:24I mean, it would have been another big play for Wilson.
120:27I thought he played really well, made some good grabs.
120:30And it was, Geno Smith knew where to go.
120:33Like, he played under control. He got the ball out on time.
120:36I was, I'm watching them and I'm like, man, I am, I'm using this loosely impressed with this Jets offense.
120:42But y'all, I'm telling y'all that Tennessee, there are big, big problems in Tennessee.
120:46Big problems. Bro. Big problems. Let's talk through that because it was like 0-0, six minutes left in like the first quarter.
120:53This should be like an early play sheet call for Brian Dayball.
120:57And he has like a double reverse action where Cam Ward, the action is him flipping the ball to himself as he's
121:03hitting the end of his drop back. And then he hits his back foot and then drives straight up into a sack.
121:10Like we said it in the summer, but Brian Dayball is probably looking at the last season of his play calling career.
121:16That is just, you don't see that across the league.
121:19That's horrible stuff. 49 plays for the Titans. 49 plays, 4.0 yards per play.
121:23I'm not trying to be hard on Cam Ward.
121:26At some point, the excuses have to stop. I mean, he's drifting back.
121:30It should have been a safety on one of the plays.
121:33There was one point where he like shuffled the ball backward.
121:36Like he just like pitched it to somebody. It looks like he had no idea what was going on.
121:42And I don't want to discount the Jets defense, but it's not like they were playing the 85 Bears out there as well.
121:49Like this offense, you talk about inoperable. The offensive line was a mess.
121:53Cam Ward's footwork, his mechanics in the pocket. It's either big play or bust.
121:57I mean, Carnell Tech caught the ball, but it doesn't matter when he goes for like 20-something yards.
122:02Wondell Robinson, it doesn't matter when he's getting thrown the ball four or five yards down the field.
122:08Tony Pollard, nothing on the ground. Tajay Spears running up.
122:11Cam Ward couldn't hit swing routes to the running backs out of the backfield.
122:15It was that bad. They didn't score a touchdown until two minutes left in the game.
122:20And you're just like, Oh no. Yeah, the touchdown game with two minutes left.
122:24Two minutes and 50 seconds left. And Elik Aamriner gets a slant route, scores a touchdown.
122:29Awful, awful performance from the Tennessee Titans. And I am very concerned for Carnell Tate, Wondell Robinson, and Brian Dayball as a play caller.
122:36I only have two things to add here because I pretty much watched zero seconds of this game.
122:41You know, maybe we'll keep it that way. We'll see.
122:44One, Surrender Index, which is an account on Twitter, tracks like cowardly punts.
122:48The Titans with a minute and 12 seconds left in the third on fourth and nine while losing three to 20, they punted.
122:55That was a 100th percentile out of cowardly punts since 1999.
122:58And then our friend Easton Freeze asked Robert Sala after the game for his message to fans who are shell-shocked and tempted
123:05to save their money and be apathetic about this football team.
123:08It's week one. Dude, it was bad, y'all. Like, I'm not trying to be funny here.
123:13It was bad. Right. It's about to get even worse.
123:16The Titans then get Vic Fangio's defense in week two.
123:19Then the fourth game of the season is Jesse Minter's Baltimore Ravens.
123:22Then the fifth game of the season is D'Amico Ryan's Houston Texans.
123:26So three of these next four games are three on paper of the best defenses in the league.
123:31And you only put up 10 points and what, 140 yards?
123:34I guess the week one. I mean, that's brutal stuff.
123:37How many points are they going to score? The last note that I have is I feel very bad for Jeremiah Smith
123:44or Arch Manning because that looked like the worst team in the NFL today.
123:48They look awful. Matt, question for you. Who scores more points?
123:51The Chicago Bears through week eight or the Tennessee Titans through week 18?
123:55Oh, definitely the Bears. Bears. Easily. Easily. Easily. No question.
123:58That's the easiest question you've asked me all episode.
124:01So 18 games versus eight games. We're going with the team with eight games.
124:05Yes. Yes. Yes. Incredible stuff. Wow. Okay. Hayden, speaking of maybe even worse offenses, we'll close out with you.
124:11The Cleveland Browns scored 10 points in their debut with Todd Munkin as Deshaun Watson goes 16 to 22.
124:16205 though. Five sacks taken. He is the team's leading rusher with six carries for 38.
124:21We're bearing the lead where the Jacksonville basically had to take their foot off the acceleration for the entire second half, posting 34 points in total.
124:29Trevor Lawrence, 18 of 23, 245. Four touchdown passes.
124:32We'll talk through the wide receivers. Parker Washington with 85 for 83 and one.
124:36Jacoby Myers, two for 40 and one. And then obviously the running back room.
124:40Ray, the Browns have the Titans and it's going to be a close competition this year.
124:45This game was equally as bad with the Browns.
124:47It was within three minutes of the game. Deshaun Watson, I mean, threw it directly to a Jacksonville defender in zone coverage.
124:54That one was really bad. There was many other missed opportunities for interceptions, but what was so strange about the, and not strange, like very predictable.
125:02The reason why they went with Deshaun Watson in a road environment is because like he can execute the offense.
125:08There were so many delay of games or needing to call a timeout to avoid delay of games in the two minute drill.
125:14He had to take a delay of game for no reason.
125:18That set up a first and 30. His time to throw was like almost four seconds in this one.
125:23Later in the game, they had to call a timeout for a delay of game where he's like literally at the line
125:30of scrimmage with his wristband going through the place.
125:33Like with, as the seconds go down from two to one to zero, there was nothing functional about this game.
125:39Denzel Boston catches like a go ball touchdown. That was a great catch from him later on.
125:44They try to get Casey Concepcion going a little bit.
125:47There's like an end around. There was a screen.
125:49He fumbled on that screen. He did have a little out route for a first down, but it was to the point
125:56where this team is so horrific that this could be a team like the Titans where it's like you can't start anybody
126:02to the point where I think Shador probably should just start the following game here.
126:07There was like nothing that Deshaun Watson did at all.
126:10Even what they were trying to say, like you cannot watch that game and say the operation obviously Travis Hunter out there
126:16at corner as well, but that was like as bad as he gets there and then Dylan Sampson leaves with the knee injury.
126:23So it's just like you really can't you really can't start anybody here.
126:27I mean, this is the downside of drafting someone like Quinchon Judkins who's I think a tough rank for me because he's
126:34so awesome with the ball in his hands as a runner and yet when you face an overpowering full of Monstars defensive
126:40line like the Jaguars, he just has no chance and you're going to get negative game script and then he has, you
126:47know, two targets for 17 yards on top of his 12 carries for 33.
126:51So Matt, I mean, Aiden, we're not going to get a horrible matchup like this all the time, but at the same
126:58time, it's going to be tough to I think pick your spots with Quinchon Judkins unless he's, you know, just a flex player.
127:04Yeah, I think he's a flex only type for now.
127:07They get the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Tampa so now you have to like deal with the Vita Vea of it all
127:14over there so it's not going to get any easier this next week.
127:18He did it on that swing pass. He did like a break a tackle and he still looks awesome to me, but
127:24he's like a low end flex until proven otherwise.
127:27Deshaun Watson like at least like looked more athletic than he had before, but his decision making is so far away from
127:34what is acceptable in the NFL that even that as a compliment like is completely irrelevant onto Jacksonville, a serious team, serious organization.
127:40Trevor Lawrence was phenomenal in this one for a couple reasons.
127:44One, he was not under duress. There was only four pressures on 24 dropbacks, 17%.
127:48This could be one of the worst offensive lines going into the NFL this year and that did not seem to be a problem.
127:55Jared Verse went pressureless in this one for Cleveland.
127:58That's not a good sign over there, but with Trevor, you had to scramble drill touchdown finding Jacoby in the back of the end zone.
128:05That was an awesome play for Trevor backside dig touchdown play action quick touchdown where if you look at the end zone
128:12camera from the broadcast, there was like four or five Browns defenders hands putting up and Trevor put it right on the money.
128:19It was a little bit of a rotation across the board here.
128:22BGJ leaves early then comes back in. He had a catch over the middle.
128:27He had a toe tap catch but largely wasn't that heard from.
128:30It was Parker Washington to me as like clearly the top target diving touchdown on a crossing route where if you watch that play, he's in the slot.
128:39He gets man coverage. I mean, just absolutely dust like right away.
128:42He has a one handed catch like near the sideline later on.
128:46Like it seemed like just one of those players where like you can tell who the first read is like on a
128:52deeper route and that seemed to be Parker Washington in this one.
128:56Jacoby Myers was the recipient of that scramble drill touchdown later on Cole strange dig route touchdown in the red area.
129:02So Trevor Lawrence did not miss the entire game.
129:05One sack, four touchdowns and only five incompletions there.
129:07It's like everything was working there. Only like one of them was like truly startable and that was Parker Washington five for 83 in a tud.
129:15I'll ask about Basial Tootin versus Chris Rodriguez. Now, this wasn't a four quarter outlay.
129:20That was not necessary, but the box score says 15 carries 66 yards for Basial Tootin along with one catch for 22
129:26compared to Chris Rodriguez six for 23. This was one of those games that you would hope for a short yardage touchdown
129:33for Chris Rodriguez when you score 34 points, but it didn't happen.
129:36Did not happen Tootin started this game? He obviously got the most carries by quite a lot here.
129:42Chris Rodriguez was out there for that play action goal line touchdown that I was talking about.
129:47That was to Josh Cameron. By the way, that was the second touchdown of the game.
129:52That was not garbage time. Josh Cameron was out there for a little bit.
129:56Travis Hunter was not, but Chris Rodriguez, I wouldn't say that he's like for sure going to get all the short yardage
130:02work because Tootin got a little bit kind of between the 20s like on a third and one situation, but Chris Rodriguez
130:09was out there for that goal line snap. He's purely touchdown or bust.
130:13Unfortunately, Amir Abdullah was actually playing in kind of like a LaQuint Allen type of role.
130:17It's going to be a rotation. I can't say that Tootin or Chris Rodriguez looked way better than one another Tootin.
130:24I thought it looked a little bit more explosive.
130:26Liam Cohen had some nice things to say about Basial Tootin.
130:30I do still worry that this could be a little bit kind of trap-backy if Chris Rodriguez is going to get the goal line stuff.
130:37And for Basial Tootin, he had a screen reception for 22 yards.
130:41Yeah, that was his only target of the game.
130:43There's just like no reason to throw the ball to the running backs if you're going to get Trevor Lawrence to park
130:50Washington, BTJ, Jacoby, you name it down the football field.
130:53So I just wonder if like that Liam Cohen-Bucks offense that was so, it was just kind of rotating around the running back group.
131:00I just don't think that this offense is going to be like that one at all.
131:05Harmon, any questions? How long would you say that Jacoby Myers was wide open before he finally got the ball thrown his way on that touchdown?
131:13They showed a different angle and there was a Browns defender that was originally guarding him who was just like laying down
131:19on the ground for a little bit. But credit to Trevor for eventually finding him.
131:24That was a robe and good to see Trevor throw the ball accurate.
131:27Sometimes he throws the ball accurately and then other times he's way off.
131:31This is one of those games where everything was right on the money.
131:35So shout out to him. Yeah, this is one of those kind of two game samples I want to package together.
131:41They get the Browns in week one and then they're on the road in Denver for week two.
131:47The Jaguars are and so we're going to kind of learn some lessons from from that department.
131:52BTJ left for a portion of this game, Hayden.
131:55Yeah, as we have all talked about Travis Hunter kind of seemed like the de facto X wide receiver for BTJ, but
132:01did that kind of turn into Josh Cameron here?
132:04Yeah, so Josh Cameron was a standout in camp and like Shipley by the end of camp was saying Cameron's going to
132:10play more offense than Travis Hunter and that's exactly what happened here.
132:14Now Travis Hunter came in there for his four snaps on offense.
132:17I think he got a carry and then I think maybe like another screen or something.
132:22He basically was in there as like a like, you know, Kadarius Tony type of player out there.
132:28That was that was that was like when like Brian Thomas was sidelined.
132:31I think I think it was a kind of like that.
132:35So he's a very good corner. We'll leave it at that.
132:38Okay. Ray, any closing questions before we get out of here?
132:41I just it feels like and hey, I didn't watch this this game in entirety, but it felt like there's probably some
132:48more upside in this pass catching room. Trevor Lawrence only threw the ball what 23 times?
132:53I just I feel like there could be some more inside this Jags receiving room.
132:57I would hope that they consolidate the looks a little bit more.
133:01there like let's condense that up. Get Parker Washington the ball some more and I thought BTJ looked well before he got before he got injured.
133:08I thought he played well and look good. Yeah, he came back to the game.
133:13I have no negative notes to say about Brian Thomas in this game.
133:17Parker watching 18 of 25 routes on the dropbacks out there.
133:20So not a full time player. But I will say he just to me does look like the most like well-rounded wide
133:27receiver like the most involved out there and when they are going to be in closer games like they will drop back
133:33a whole lot more and I think that this is going to be maybe more of a pass first offense than they have been before.
133:41I mean, if you listen to Liam Cohen like before the season talk about the running backs is like, you know, we're trying to get by here.
133:49I would not be surprised. Yes, four, six, eight, like four, six, eight.
133:53That's pretty much what happened today and then it was just like 25, 30, 32 to the best players would just happen
133:59to be all of the pass catchers. All right, that does it.
134:0312 games in the books, 12 game covered by the four of us.
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