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0:59On today's episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, we're going to go over all the games for week three.
1:05I don't have other things to say. That's mostly the episode, right, Craig?
1:09That's right. You got that right, Danny. I agree.
1:12We usually try to list all the things, but that's really concise.
1:15That will be most of the show. One stat for every game.
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1:46Additional taxes, fees, and terms apply. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
1:50My name is Danny Heifetz. I'm joined by Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck, and we are previewing week three of the NFL season.
1:57A lot of backup quarterbacks. Wow. Already got Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, and then Tyson Bajan and or Case Keenum three weeks into the season.
2:04Downer. Come on, DK. Brutal. Brutal. I mean, when was the last time Case Keenum played?
2:09Like three years ago. Case Keenum's played four games since COVID.
2:12He's kind of in that Chase Daniel camp where he's just like a career backup, and he's like the elder statesman of
2:19backups, where he's just kind of always in the league.
2:22He's always there. He had one really good season, I think.
2:25He's a coach. Like, if you're a quarterback like that, you're the third guy, and you're a vet.
2:30You're being paid to just basically be like a coach who's like a mole, and you're hanging out with the quarterback all
2:37the time, and it's like a cool older brother to give you advice when you won't listen to mom or dad.
2:43Like, that's really what his role is in the NFL.
2:46Dude, it's one good season. He was a starter for the Vikings in 2017.
2:50He had 22 touchdowns, seven picks. 2017. That just feels like a lifetime ago.
2:55I don't even know what we were doing back then.
2:58So we'll see what happens. Caleb Williams. Yeah, I mean, that's Monday Night Football.
3:02Should we just doing that now? Are we just starting with that?
3:05I mean, I feel like it did end up being the news of the week was of all the quarterbacks.
3:11Jackson Dart walking off the field ended up being out for the season.
3:15And then Caleb Williams carted off crying into the towel as like, yeah, maybe like two weeks, three weeks.
3:21We'll see. So you want to do the last game of the week first?
3:25I think we did by accident. That's kind of like the entire one.
3:29But maybe we'll circle back at the end. But I guess we should start with the earlier games in the beginning.
3:35The morning slate. We're doing one stat for every game.
3:38I'll start. Bengals-Steelers. Game of the year. The Bengals are favored by three and a half points to win this game.
3:44It's in Pittsburgh. My one stat. The Cincinnati Bengals have allowed a league low 78 rushing yards to running backs.
3:50Wow. This year. They are top five in rushing yards allowed per game.
3:54And they are top five in rushing defense success rate.
3:57The Bengals defense is kind of a thing now.
4:00And it's not something you really ever associate with the Bengals.
4:03They used to be Cowboys North or whatever you wanted to call it.
4:07Or the Cowboys or Bengals South. But the Bengals are a little bit more balanced now.
4:12And this game, look, I think the Bengals always play well against the Steelers.
4:16I went back and I looked up how Burrow does against the Steelers versus every other team in the NFL.
4:22Burrow scores four more points a game against the Steelers versus all the other teams.
4:26Which is like not nothing. That's interesting. In fantasy or real life?
4:30Oh, sorry. The Bengals. When Burrow was the quarterback for the Bengals, they scored 30 points per game over the last four seasons.
4:37Ooh. Jamar Chase had 16 catches against the Steelers last year.
4:40Remember that game? That was Flacco. The 23rd target of the game for Jamar Chase.
4:45He was uncovered. It was like Madden where you were on easy mode and you would just run, you know, crossers on easy mode or just always.
4:53It was just that. He would just catch like 12 yard passes every single series.
4:57Well, what do you make as a Steelers fan of Joey Porter Jr.
5:01just still kind of being in a holdout fake back injury?
5:04They won't pay him. The Steelers don't do deals middle of the season.
5:08So now it was one thing when the Steelers were playing Atlanta and New England, but now they're playing Jamar Chase, the
5:15Bengals in a divisional game against like the best receiver in the NFL.
5:19And Joey Porter Jr. is not going to be out there.
5:22Like where, how do you feel about that? I blame the Steelers, not Joey Porter.
5:26And I think the Steelers should pay him. And I think their rule of you, we don't pay anybody midseason is stupid.
5:33Pay your good players. He's young and good. And maybe you have to pay a little bit of a premium, but that's how this stuff works.
5:41And you waited too long and you should have done it.
5:44The only interesting thing is, is now that he's, he's not on the injury report anymore.
5:49So Joey Porter doesn't play. He's there's a chance he could start losing money, not getting paid.
5:54So they're in a very weird spot right now where he might have to come back despite not having a contract.
6:00A new contract, I should say. So it's. Well, they did add him to the injury report.
6:05It says they have it as not injury related.
6:08They have it as conditioning. Exactly. I don't know.
6:10Yeah. But if he. Conditioning. If he doesn't play and he's not on the injury report, he would be forfeiting his checks.
6:17I don't know what's going to happen. The whole thing's been super weird.
6:21It's like classic Steelers. They're like still negotiating like it's 1982 and everything they're doing is outdated and old.
6:26Everything they do is like it's 1982. Even their quarterback was born in 1982.
6:31When was Aaron Rodgers born? Honestly, I think right around.
6:34I kind of nailed that. Yeah. I think that the.
6:37But nothing's changed about the team in general, too.
6:39It's weird. It's so funny. That was pretty good.
6:42It's weird to see Mike Tomlin criticizing the Steelers when nothing's changed.
6:46Like Mike, like the Steelers are the second worst offense by EPA and the best defense by EPA.
6:51And their offensive line kind of sucks. And they can't protect Rodgers.
6:54Even the defense. I'd push back on the defense.
6:57I think they're doing a good job. I think Patrick Graham's doing a good job.
7:02But like they played the Falcons and then the Patriots who are a mess.
7:06But I do agree. The defense. I've always said the defense is good.
7:10But to the Bengals point, I just have to ask an important question, Craig.
7:14What do you think changed with the Bengals defense?
7:17What could have possibly be the difference? Maybe it's Dexter goddamn Lawrence not being on the Giants and going to the Bengals
7:23and being an absolute destroyer of worlds. That has appeared to have worked.
7:27They have good corners. Yeah, the Bengals defense. And honestly, the lines on the Bengals, offensive and defensive, I think are both very underrated.
7:34And it's taking a little while for us to come around to the fact that they're maybe not great.
7:40But they're certainly league average or maybe a little above that.
7:43So I think the Bengals are going to win this game.
7:46I think Chase Brown is a guy who quietly, he's maybe not a bylaw because he hasn't been bad, but he's been pretty average.
7:54And I think you might be a little disappointed if you took him like I did, like 15th overall in the Ringer League.
8:00But he's quietly getting 22 touches a game, which is a lot.
8:04Seventh in the league. So I think the points will come for him.
8:08I think he's the next guy to pop. Yeah.
8:10I'm so mad the Giants traded Dexter Lawrence for one pick.
8:14I still can't believe that they just got one pick for Dexter Lawrence.
8:18Heifetz, is it triggering at all? Whatsoever that Dexter Lawrence is helping potentially transform the Bengals defense.
8:23And Leonard Williams has transformed the Seahawks defense. Why?
8:25Because the Giants traded both away? Yes, that's why.
8:28Are you trying to trigger me? Just a little.
8:31Are you happy for Dexter Lawrence at least? Sure.
8:33I'm mad that I did. I not say this the moment that he was fucking traded, that this was a mistake and they didn't get enough.
8:41And still, nobody has explained to me why Max Crosby's price went before they redid the trade was basically double what the Giants got for Dexter Lawrence.
8:49I still don't understand it. And the whole thing was premised that Dexter Lawrence is not the same player anymore.
8:55He's clearly great. And this is a huge mistake.
8:58And I understand. I don't think there's some. Honestly, I think it's just bad trade.
9:02That's all there is. Once again, we said at the time, if it was the 11th pick and they couldn't, the Giants
9:09couldn't hide behind the fact that it was two top 10 picks because no one would feel say top 11 doesn't sound as good in a bad draft.
9:17Everyone would be like, oh, 11th pick in a bad draft.
9:21And instead, whatever. It's just, again, he's such an impactful player that, you know what?
9:25Whatever, man. Well, speaking of Leonard Williams. Yeah. Okay.
9:28I got the Seahawks commanders game. And my stat for this game is that the Seahawks, this is according to NFL researcher,
9:34the Seahawks are giving up a passer rating of 2.8 on passes of 10 plus yards down the field.
9:40They've basically given up almost nothing downfield. And they have four picks on deep passes.
9:44And that's against Drake May, who was last year one of the best deep ball passers in the NFL, if not the
9:51best deep ball passer in the NFL. And Jacoby Brissett, who is kind of like Baker Mayfield and just loves to, you
9:57know, rip it, rip the ball down the field.
10:00So the Seahawks pass defense has been incredible. Now they get to face Marcus Mariota in a really kind of struggling commander's offense.
10:07And Seattle hasn't even had their full group. Right.
10:10They've been completely, there's been injuries. Edmund Worry just kind of is like making his way back.
10:15Their cornerback group is pretty thin right now. And they're relying on guys like that have not really played before.
10:21So it's really impressive what they've done so far.
10:23And a part of that is, a big part of that is they're just incredible at getting pressure on the quarterback.
10:30Are you worried about the Ewing theory with Sam Darnold or what?
10:33Am I worried that actually Drew Locke should just be the starter?
10:37Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Even though they won the Super Bowl in 14 games with Sam Darnold.
10:42How many games in a row would Drew Locke have to win for you to be like, don't put Darnold?
10:48Probably the Super Bowl. Seven? Eight? Eight? Eight's not even that many.
10:52If they went eight, no, I'd start being like, well, maybe they should just see what Locke has here.
10:58But no, not really. They will go back to it.
11:01Sounds like Darnold is trending towards playing. Like if he starts 16 and 0, you're not benching him.
11:06Let's be real. Yeah. I said eight. But then you said not really.
11:10I mean, I would start thinking about it. We know this.
11:13DK doesn't like to answer questions. He hates questions.
11:16The man can't be asking questions. Jesus Christ. You guys ask me these hypotheticals and then you like make me like bet
11:22my whole life on it or something. Stupid questions.
11:25Like who's going to win the Super Bowl? The basis of all male.
11:29That's not the question. Interaction and friendship is on stupid hypothetical questions.
11:33Yeah. And I gave you answers. Then you keep pressing me on it.
11:36Speaking of stupid questions. Did you guys see that Kurt Warner?
11:40He's like, stop pressing me. I answered the question.
11:42Stressing me out. Kurt Warner had an incredible pivot.
11:45Obviously, everyone kind of like poke fun at Kayla Williams all week for getting carded off and he had a hamstring injury.
11:52Kurt Warner had an incredible pivot, which was actually Jada Daniels is the one who's a bitch.
11:57Not a quote, but Kurt Warner basically was like, you know, I had the same injury.
12:01I played through it. Didn't miss a game. I was like 36.
12:05Don't see me out here crying about it. It was kind of an incredible.
12:09Former high level quarterbacks are kind of like the most annoying guys on in football.
12:14They are veteran retired stars talking about the next generation of athletes.
12:17They couldn't hate anybody. I think bad opinion havers.
12:20I forget who it was. I think Steve Young said, if you want to be around a weird group, a weird dynamic
12:26of like all alpha males, be around like 12 Hall of Fame quarterbacks, like at that, like Super Bowl 50.
12:32They're all in the same little green room of like before the Super Bowl and they have 15 Hall of Famers.
12:39Everyone's trying to big dick each other like the entire time.
12:42It's the weirdest environment ever. Kurt Warner said, quote, I suffered the exact same injury as Jada Daniels back in 2007.
12:48I played the next week. I braced it up.
12:51Obviously, a couple shots along the way, like the injections.
12:54I had to hand the football off with my right hand in both directions.
12:58But this to me is something because it's the left arm.
13:01If he wants to play through that, get back out there and help his team.
13:06I believe he can. I actually think he's right.
13:08Jada Daniels might come back sooner than he thinks.
13:11But there's also just this element of I don't know.
13:14Kurt Warner, he's still so mad he didn't win that other Super Bowl with the Cardinals.
13:19I think he's just mad that he's not involved in these conversations.
13:22I don't know. Yeah, the kids are soft now.
13:25Well, we'll be saying that for the rest of time.
13:28When I'm 60, I'm going to be saying the kids who are 20 are soft.
13:33It's just it is the natural cycle of life.
13:35The world keeps spinning. The podcasters, you know, the podcasters that couldn't have made it in our era.
13:41That's what we're going to say. DK, do you think you should start, you know, if you're desperate maybe, but if you
13:47have kind of a normal fantasy roster, you're not decimated by injuries.
13:51Are you starting a single player on Washington? I think I would still be willing to start Diggs.
13:56Really? Not McLaurin? No, not McLaurin. I mean, McLaurin has what, like four catches in two games.
14:01And that was with that was with Jane Daniels.
14:04I don't I don't know if I would trust him.
14:07But Diggs has been incredible. And I do think they'll try and get him the ball a lot.
14:12This is a desperation type situation. I'm not saying like he's like going to be highly ranked or anything like that, but I still would feel OK.
14:20I think starting Diggs, but not anyone else on this team.
14:24Certainly not the run, the running backs. Maybe. Yeah.
14:26No, I think Diggs is probably the only guy I would think about.
14:30I think one more question. Everybody. I would sit everyone.
14:33I wouldn't play Diggs. DK, one more question. Is that OK?
14:36Another question. What did you think of the Mike McDonald, Sean Payton thing?
14:40That was juicy. Juicy, juicy situation here. For those who didn't know, basically, Mike McDonald had this interview with I think that
14:47guy like has they know each other really well, but he was doing this podcast.
14:51And then for whatever reason, they posted the pre interview question that was like clearly like it was not off the record, not part of the interview.
14:59Like when he kind of got a private story.
15:02The main camera went on. It was like the back wide camera.
15:06You could see the whole set. It looked like a Nathan Fielder documentary or something going on.
15:11And it obviously was like a private private account of like Sean Payton and Sean Payton basically accused them of like Spygate.
15:17Right. And then they were like, hey, Sean, it turns out these videos fans took of your practices were just on Twitter and we watched them.
15:25And then Sean Payton was really. We looked at Twitter, Sean.
15:28Yeah. So he just then he was like, oh, my God, these are on Twitter.
15:33And he's like, why do we let fans into the practices?
15:36But Mike McDonald recounted all this about they were going to threatening to sue each other or whatever.
15:41And then it became a whole drama. But I got a lot of people tagging me this week saying one more reason to hate Sean Payton.
15:49It's like him getting mad about fucking looking at videos from Twitter and accusing the Seahawks of cheating.
15:54Once again, this is an older generation, younger generation thing.
15:57Yes. Not knowing how the Internet works. My take on it is, damn, Mike McDonald, he is really searching for edges.
16:04I mean, if they were like they're making a full cut up and like doing some scouting based on Twitter videos from fans.
16:11Now, to be honest, always competing. My first thought was like this does kind of open the floodgates of like fans getting
16:17quietly hired by teams to take or like not not hired, but like this field.
16:22This now feels like something I never thought about that is possible.
16:25Doesn't it? I'm sure this isn't the first time anyone's thought of doing that.
16:29Yes. But yeah. But I never really considered the fact that fans could just film like 10, 20 straight minutes of like
16:36whatever and just kind of post it. Yeah. For the world to see.
16:40Yeah. Teams know that people do this. They've really clamped down.
16:43The media is only allowed to have like their videos for very certain portions of practice.
16:48But yeah. Yeah. Those those those wait till you have those.
16:51Everyone's 10 years from now and we're all wearing Snapchat glasses.
16:54Just wait. Oh, my God. Everyone's going to be recorded.
16:57They're all that. Everyone's wearing sunglasses. They're going to.
17:00Here's the deal. You just can't do anything secretive at these training camp practices.
17:04Did you guys see that the new iPhone apparently has a setting?
17:08I don't know if it's the automatic setting or you have to like toggle it on where it records the sound that is going on at all times.
17:16And whenever you want, you can click a button and it'll it'll play you the last 15 seconds of sound that has taken place.
17:23I saw this and I assumed I misunderstood it because I was like, who wants that?
17:28That is always recording. Yes. Well, it's like the succession.
17:31We're we're we're always listening. We're always listening. We're listening.
17:34We're listening. No, no, no. It means we're listening.
17:37Yeah. What's wrong with that? We hear you. Yeah.
17:39Well, well, the problem is we are listening. My phone can just play back 15 seconds of audio from my life whenever I want.
17:46It's funny because like this was a conspiracy like less than 10 years ago where people were like, I was talking about
17:53an ad and I think it was like listening to me the whole time.
17:57It was like actually someone else you were texting that about Google it and they probably walked on your Wi-Fi and now it's like, no, no, no.
18:05That's like a feature. They're like, hey, hey, cool.
18:08Like we're listening to you the entire time. I might have to go back to a flip phone.
18:13I don't know. I yeah. Next game. Next game here.
18:16The Houston Texans are at the Indianapolis Colts. Both are 0 and 2, which is just incredible.
18:21The Texans 0 and 3 would be shocked, would be very surprising.
18:25The irony is the Texans started 0 and 3 last year and made the playoffs, but it doesn't feel like they'll do that this year.
18:32Whoever starts 0 and 3 this year is probably missing the playoffs.
18:36My one big fact for Texans Colts. I am going to paraphrase Stephen Holder, who does a great job covering the Colts at ESPN.
18:43The Colts have given up 1029 yards in two games, which is not only the most in the NFL, but it is
18:50the most that any team has allowed through two weeks in 10 years.
18:54Oh, the last last team that allowed more than a thousand and 30 yards in two weeks was the 2016 Raiders.
19:00So a big game because either the Texans offense is going to like really struggle again against the worst defense of the
19:06league or the Colts were going to go 0 and 3, even though they traded their first round pick.
19:12Both are pretty disastrous. I mean, it doesn't look like Nico Collins is going to play in this game.
19:18His hamstring thing seems to be lingering. So, and they could not, and Houston could not run the ball for shit last week either.
19:25David Montgomery had like 10 yards rushing. It was a mess.
19:28Dexter Lawrence destroyed the Texans offensive line. Yes. Are you playing David Montgomery in this game?
19:33Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, the Colts allowing the most yards over the last like 10 years, I think you have
19:39to, if they can't run on the Colts and three touchdowns week one.
19:43I feel like it'll, it'll even out a little.
19:46Okay. I'm just going to ask you my own start sick questions throughout this episode.
19:50Yeah. That's helpful. Do you, do you guys like the Texans in this one then?
19:55I do. I don't, I don't know. Yeah. I, I think the Texans are going to win this game.
20:01And I, I think the Colts, if the Colts lose there, I mean, again, I think Chris Ballard, the GM is going
20:07to get fired at the end of the season.
20:10We had this email from Joseph. I really wanted to read it, but it was like a blog.
20:15It was so long. And Joseph, I want you to know, I heard your email.
20:20He basically just eviscerated Chris Ballard. We hear you.
20:22We hear you. We're listening. Yeah. He basically says, Chris Ballard's the most overrated GM and he called the Colts.
20:28They are all caps. He's like the culture, they have ended their last three seasons, nine and eight, eight, nine, eight, nine.
20:35They're the Pittsburgh Steelers without culture, history, or even being able to make the playoffs.
20:39It's funny. It's like they all, they almost beat Patrick Mahomes like six days ago.
20:44Yes. Well, that's, he wrote it after that game.
20:46He made the point that kind of did strike me, which is that the Colts kind of haven't had a good defense
20:53for like 20 years, which is true. Even when they won the Superbowl, it was like the defense was good for like six weeks.
21:00But anyway, yeah, if the Colts trading for Sauce Gardner, if the Colts go under 500 this year, it's like an absolute
21:07catastrophe because Sauce Gardner, again, hasn't won a football game in America in like two years.
21:12So, yeah, I, I, I, such a random stat, a football game in America for two years.
21:17Okay. But yeah, the, I don't, I'm not breaking any news here either, but like Daniel Jones has not been good and
21:23he, he needs to, I mean, if he, if you look at his numbers, they're, they're not very good.
21:29Both teams. I mean, again, Alec Pierce is out, is out for this game.
21:33I mean, the Colts, they're, they're not in a good spot.
21:36We'll see what happens. They need Jonathan Taylor. I just think the Texas defense is not playing elite either, but it's a, I, I really don't have faith.
21:45We'll see. Whoever's obviously in a huge thing. Cause you have CJ Stratton didn't sign a contract before this season.
21:51If they start 0 and 3, but I think the Colts are going on 3.
21:55The vibes would be horrific because they have just absolutely doubled down on this build on, on Daniel Jones, on Alec Pierce, on all these players.
22:03And frankly, on Chris Ballard and the owner, Carly Ursae-Gordon has basically said, yeah, I'm going to fire everyone if they don't make the playoffs.
22:10So it's just like terrible vibes. So I do think it's a, there's been some discourse about the Ursae daughter on the
22:17field, taking notes, got the headset in. People are kind of like making fun of her.
22:22I kind of think it's cool. I think it's a cool look.
22:25Who cares? I think it's kind of fun. She's engaged.
22:28Yeah. She's fucking locked in. Let her listen in and take notes.
22:32Who cares? I think the problem is. The players maybe?
22:35Why? I don't know. What's she doing? She's just walking around taking notes and trying to be engaged in the fucking team that she owns.
22:42So what? I think the problem is. You guys know.
22:45No, go ahead. I actually don't have a strong take on this.
22:49I can understand like from the players. The players from the players want any women.
22:53It doesn't matter if they own the team. DK, you've said to me before off mic that you don't like women on the sideline.
23:00I think you should say it. He's okay with cheerleaders.
23:03That's it though. Oh my God. Yeah. No, it's, I think it's like, it's a matter of, do you want like your
23:10boss breathing down your neck when you're fucking podcasting?
23:12Do you want bill right behind you? Like it's like the Sean Payton thing, like right next to Davis Webb or whatever.
23:19It's like, I don't know if that's like a really a helpful thing at all or not, but I don't actually care
23:26that I don't, I don't have a strong opinion on it.
23:29Bill Walsh wrote about this in his book. And he's like that.
23:32And we were talking about this when Brandon Bean got promoted for the bills while Sean McDermott got fired and he said,
23:39well, the coach is at like grinding film and he got to the facility at five and is still there at 10 o'clock.
23:46The owner is at dinner with the GM eating a giant steak and the GM is telling him why it's the coach's fault.
23:53And the dynamic Chris Ballard has hit two draft picks in six years and Shane Steichen is just turning Daniel Jones into
23:59like one of the most incredible quarterbacks and Jonathan Taylor into like modern day Walter, like Eric Dickerson and the, like, but the owner doesn't know football.
24:07So they have to lean on a football person to be there like person.
24:11And Chris Ballard is that guy for the Ursa family.
24:14And the problem is that like, they're going to have to fire Chris Ballard and Shane and absolutely they should keep Shane Steichen.
24:21And for whatever reason, I just feel like they might clean house.
24:25Firing Steichen would be insane. He's been so good and made everyone around so much better.
24:30And frankly, Chris Ballard has missed a ridiculous around at men of picks, but he is beloved in media.
24:35And so he's, he has like not get hammered.
24:38Steichen is like the most under discussed great play calling head coach in the league.
24:42Yeah. Yeah. He's excellent. I mean, yeah, he's again, the Eagles, the Superbowl that they lost, but it's like the Eagles, like
24:49they should have had 35, almost 42 points in that game.
24:52So by the way, if you don't understand sarcasm, Craig was joking about that.
24:56I didn't actually say that thing to him about.
24:59What are you talking about? Some people just don't have, they can't understand that it is sarcasm.
25:04So I just want to make that clear. You're saying that you did say it, but you were being sarcastic.
25:10It's like a Mike Penn sideline thing. He's like, no lunch.
25:13No, I didn't say it. And I wasn't, there was no intonation because it wasn't said.
25:18The fact that you're trying so hard to clarify is actually worrying.
25:22I think next game here, the Chargers are 0 and 2 at the Buffalo Bills who are 2 and 0.
25:28This is also just an incredibly important game for vibes.
25:31If nothing else. Totally. This is one of the two, this is like one of the two marquee early games for me,
25:37because while the Chargers might not be an exciting team to watch literally narratively, they're fascinating.
25:42And so my stat is that the Chargers have gained 20 or more yards on 2% of their plays, which is ahead
25:49of only the Cardinals and the Giants. Meanwhile, the Bills gain 20 or more yards on 10% of their plays, which is fast.
25:55One in every 10 plays, the Bills get 20 or more yards.
25:59I like that stat because 20 yards is cool shit.
26:02Yeah. It's like the Bills do five times as much cool shit.
26:06Sounds exactly right. Um, we don't need to beat the like, what's wrong with the Chargers thing into the ground.
26:12I would, the one thing that's bothered me the most is that Herbert is, the Chargers are second to last in pressure rate this year.
26:19And I, and I, I just don't know, like last year.
26:22Herbert getting pressured or you mean defense? Sorry, Herbert getting, he's getting pressured at the second highest clip in the league.
26:29Justin Herbert. With his two all pro tackles, Sean Slater and Joel are back.
26:33Don't you remember? It was only a month ago, a month or two ago.
26:37I would talk about this a lot and everybody would.
26:40The stats around what Herbert was able to do just when one of the all pro tackles was on the field.
26:46When Joel played four games last year, Justin Herbert by EPA was like the best quarterback in the last five years.
26:52And now you have both of them back. And I know the scheme has changed, but it's remarkable how different and how
26:59shitty it still is, despite the fact that they have like two of the best 10 tackles in the fucking league.
27:05I mean, I think one, that's a small sample size in that group, which is part of the reason like, you know,
27:12it's not all those teams had great pass rushers that they were playing last year.
27:16And also just the interior of the line is completely collapsed because a lot of the optimism was around Tyler Biotis, the
27:23new center who immediately got hurt for the entire season.
27:26But it's not just that. It's like Joel got abused by Max Crosby.
27:30Joel had like four penalties in the game. Like not.
27:33Yeah. Well, the Giants don't have Max. Well, yeah, but the stats where he was like, like, yeah, Max Crosby is better than Joe Walt.
27:40Also, Joe, all these guys are recovering from injuries, which never gets discussed.
27:44Like you guys season an injury. You're coming back.
27:47Like you're rehabbing from a season ending injury. Like you're not probably not 100%.
27:51And then you're playing Max Crosby. Also, it's like now you have big Deionnie Walker coming in facing this Chargers.
27:57The largest man in the world. Oh, my gosh.
27:59He's been awesome. And the Chargers interior offensive line is an actual problem.
28:03DK, you nailed that in the draft when Deion Walker was drafted.
28:07When we were to go to the combine, you're like the person I want to see the most Deion Walker.
28:13I don't know if he's good at football. He's the biggest person I've ever seen.
28:17He'll probably play for 10 years. I'm a subscriber to Planet Theory.
28:21I like the Planet Theory philosophy where there's just only so many people his size walking around on Earth.
28:27Six foot seven, 330. He's just he's really quick footed and powerful.
28:30There was some like stuff like injury stuff and concerns like that going into the draft is I think big reason why
28:37he fell because he's a big man and and everything around that.
28:40But yeah, he's been he's been really, really impressive.
28:43Like people talking about him as one of the best young defensive tackles in the NFL right now.
28:48He's he's really rising. I think he's only like 22 years old or something like that.
28:53Yeah. So yeah, he sets the tone for them.
28:56A couple more things I want to hit in this game.
28:59One, it seems like Ladd McConkie is going to play.
29:02He's he had a rib injury, broke a rib.
29:05It seems like he played through it last week.
29:07Seems healthier. Now the Chargers so far this year have put up twice as many yards when Ladd's on the field versus when he's not.
29:15So that matters a lot. I think Arande Gadsden is a good dart throw tight end play this week.
29:21Both their other two tight ends are on IR.
29:23Gadsden. Actually, Charlie Kolar is not going on IR.
29:26Oh, weirdly enough. They changed their mind or they reversed course on that.
29:30On that note, though. So the charge. So again, you mentioned the two tight ends for the Chargers are hurt.
29:36You have Arande Gadsden, not necessarily a blocker. So a few weeks ago, the Chargers signed Justin Herbert's younger brother to their practice squad.
29:43Yeah. And I kind of thought that was like a bit, you know, like a Giannis situation.
29:48You know what I mean? You're like, is the NASA's really going to play?
29:52No, but like, I guess he brings vibes to practice or whatever.
29:56And now the Chargers are down two tight ends and they got his brother in the practice squad and they either have
30:02to elevate this man because he's the tight end of the practice squad or they have to cut him and admit that
30:09that was a bit and they actually have no intention of fucking playing Justin Herbert's brother.
30:14Either way, it's kind of fucked up because either they're going to play Justin Herbert's brother or at least make him on
30:20the active roster or admit that like there was kind of no reason that he was there because they're very close.
30:26Justin Herbert stayed at Oregon a year longer because he said he wanted the chance to play his brother as a freshman
30:33at Oregon and he wanted to play together. So I don't know what's going on there, but keep an eye on that.
30:39I think it's I don't know what they're going to do.
30:43His name is Patrick. His name is Patrick Herbert.
30:45Patrick Herbert. I'd completely forgotten or memory hold the fact that Justin Herbert had a brother that was playing in the NFL.
30:52The Giants should have gotten Justin Herbert the number like they were Giants wanted to take him really high in the draft
30:59the year that the Giants wanted to trade up, but then he didn't come out.
31:03That was the year with Kyler Murray. Sure. Speaking of tight ends, Dolan Kincaid is an early candidate for one of the best picks in fantasy.
31:11Yes. The number one scoring tight end in fantasy.
31:13He has the most receiving yards for tight ends.
31:16Number one in yards per route run. And he's still he's playing more than he did last year, but not a ton.
31:23Not like a ton. He basically was like running routes on half of the passes last year.
31:28Now he's like two thirds. But most tight ends are like 75 or 80 percent.
31:32So he's still not even all the way there.
31:35And he's been fantastic. Generally, I mean, dude, the bills are on 10 days rest.
31:39The Chargers are going across the country to Buffalo.
31:42The vibes could not be higher for Buffalo. Josh Allen's playing the best football he's ever played.
31:47They got their new stadium. They got their new uniforms.
31:50The uniforms suck. Sorry, did I interrupt your point?
31:53You did. I had like a whole fucking thing, but it's fine.
31:56Yeah. The uniforms suck. God damn it. Sorry. No, it's good.
32:00You're all bad because I pointed out that you don't like women on the sidelines.
32:04Yeah, you fucking deserve that shit. I'm actually not sorry anymore.
32:07Wow. You deserved me wrecking your joke. I think.
32:10Tell me about these uniforms, Craig. Well, I don't know what the obsession is with the color gray, but it's obviously the worst color for a uniform.
32:18It literally lasts. Pink is better. Every color is better than gray.
32:22They're horrible. It's all gray. Who the fuck wants gray in a uniform?
32:26The helmet's got like a red swoosh going around it.
32:29They literally took the bill off, the buffalo off the helmet.
32:32The coolest part of the bill's uniform, the whole thing is the buffalo.
32:36They're like, yeah, fuck the buffalo. They are all gray.
32:39It is a grout fit and it looks like shit.
32:42And they are, I believe, the worst uniforms in the NFL.
32:45A close second is the Rams from Monday night, the highlighter yellow.
32:48Oh, yeah, the yellow. That was, yeah, that was like a walk in the room.
32:53You're like, everyone was like, what is this? I will say the bill's one, they look like a bad XFL uniform.
32:59They're kind of unrecognizable because of the helmet change to this.
33:03It is so weird that. So again, with respect to whoever did this, this is the most overthinking it I've ever seen.
33:09All due respect to this piece of who took the bill's helmet was like, what about half of what about a red line going like halfway?
33:17Who the fuck did that? Who does these unis?
33:19Who says yes? Who saw these and they were just like, oh, it's too awkward to say no.
33:25Who approved this? This is Nike. I think we're in a really bad place.
33:29They had to have a lot of eyes on this.
33:32This is why Nike's losing cultural clout. This is unbelievable.
33:35I think we're in a really bad place with uniforms.
33:38It's also funny because it's kind of the easiest job.
33:41Which is just do something from the 90s or the 80s.
33:44Everyone loves throwbacks. Do less. Heifetz always says like, I could be a GM and we joke like, Heifetz could be a good GM.
33:51And I know everyone is always like armchair experting themselves.
33:54If I walked into the NFL jerseys office tomorrow, I'd fix them on an hour.
33:59I really feel that way. It's unbelievable. I don't get it.
34:02Yeah. If you think we're exaggerating Google, you'll see them.
34:05The hell? I can't get over it. Okay. Next game.
34:08You know what? Real quick before we move on.
34:11One thing I've noticed and found over my years covering the NFL is people have really weird opinions about what looks good.
34:17They do. No, that's true. They do. They do.
34:20They do. Some people just have really fucking weird opinions on like what looks good on your body.
34:25But they're capable of doing it though. The Bengals having the all white uniforms was awesome.
34:30Yeah. Like snow. Like, yeah. I don't know. I know what you mean, DK.
34:34I'm just saying there's a lot, a lot of bad drivers out there.
34:38A lot of bad, like uniform opinion havers. Next game is the Carolina Panthers at the Cleveland Browns who are both one and one.
34:45And this is the first Browns home game. Can't wait for this one.
34:49Yeah. Actually, the Panthers are kind of fun. I shouldn't show up.
34:53The Panthers? I was going to say, how dare you?
34:56Yeah. That's what I was. Bryce Young, number two quarterback.
34:59No, I like the Panthers. Sorry. Sorry. It's okay.
35:01Craig, do we need to talk things out? I feel like we're having a hard one today.
35:06All right. One stat. Do it. Talk it out.
35:09I expose you. It's all right. One stat for the Panthers-Cleveland Browns game.
35:13Through two games, the Panthers pass rate over expectation.
35:16This is according to Fantasy Points. It's 9.4. That is the second highest in the NFL.
35:20They are passing a lot. They can't really. I mean, they're just not even trying to run the ball.
35:26And this isn't a game where, especially last week, where they absolutely blew out the Falcons.
35:31They were up 34 to 3. Bryce still threw the ball 36 times in that game.
35:36And I just salute offensive coordinators, in this case, Brad Idzik, who are willing to keep doing what works, even if you're winning by a lot.
35:43So, I don't know. I just like that. I'm in favor of it.
35:47There was a famous interaction between Pete Carroll and Marshawn Lynch during the Pete Carroll era, where Lynch literally went over to
35:54Carroll and was like, Hey, can we keep scoring points?
35:57And Carroll was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can.
36:00And he's like, no, but seriously, can we keep scoring points?
36:03And I think about that all the time, because so many coaches, when you get up, play like one or two touchdowns,
36:09like one touchdown, they're like, okay, we're going to play conservative, not turn the ball over.
36:14We're going to rely on our defense. And then you have these teams hang around until the end of the game.
36:20And all of a sudden, you're in a bad situation in the fourth quarter or whatever.
36:25So, I just applaud teams who keep their foot on the fucking gas throughout the game.
36:30And that's what we've seen so far with Panthers.
36:33Bryce is the QB, too. This all happened because of what we did in that draft, right?
36:38Of course. Yeah. Like, we forced Heifetz to take Bryce Young, who has been like in his whatever coming into this year
36:44was one of the worst fantasy quarterbacks imaginable. And now he's scoring 28 points a game through two games.
36:50He'll probably have another big game here. Yeah. Against the Browns, who are not very good defensively so far.
36:56They've given up an opposing passer rating of 112, which is really, really bad.
37:0027th in pressure rate. Only eight quarterback hits in two games.
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37:56Nationwide Investment Services Corporation. Member FINRA, Columbus, Ohio. The Jets are at the Lions this week.
38:01Both teams are one and one. Obviously, Aaron Glenn is the coach of the Jets and he was the Lions defensive coordinator for a long time.
38:09So here's a defensive related stat for you, which is Aaron Glenn's Jets.
38:13The Jets have allowed the fewest first downs in the NFL this season.
38:17While the Lions have allowed the most. The Lions have allowed 63 first downs on defense in two weeks, which so staggered me.
38:23I looked up where does that rank in the entire True Media database since 2000?
38:28And the answer is the Lions have given up the second most first downs through two weeks in the last 26 years.
38:34Wow. Hot knife through butter. I'd like to zoom in on the Jets here for one second and discuss the possibilities of
38:41what would happen if they win this game. If the Jets beat the Detroit Lions in this game, for the first time
38:48in a long time, like the Jets are really on the verge of having legitimate juice.
38:52Don't you think? Yeah, I do. The first time since this summer when I said they had a lot of juice.
38:59Well, that was off mic. You didn't say that on mic.
39:02You were talking about Carl Ears saying, Gordon, the Jets.
39:05We didn't know what you did. But it feels like we're very close.
39:09It's percolating. There's little bubbles on the water. Something's down there.
39:12And if they actually can come out and win this game and beat the Lions in Detroit, it's like, holy shit, the Jets have juice.
39:19I totally agree. They should have won last week.
39:22I know. I wish they would have fucking finished that game because then we could have been talking about them in a completely different light.
39:30I mean, Aaron completely botched the last quarter of that game, but they were so close to being too close.
39:36Oh, yeah. You know what? I'm saying it again.
39:38This is the week the Jets get the interception.
39:41I know. This is the week the Jets get the pick.
39:44They haven't had an interception in like two years.
39:47Dude, this is the week. Since the start of last year, the Jets have zero picks.
39:52The next worst team is the Cowboys with six.
39:54The Bears, who are number one in the last two years in interceptions, have 24.
39:59They have 24 interceptions in the time the Jets have had zero.
40:02That's why the Jets signed to Sean Wright for the Bears.
40:06No, it is interesting. I mean, Aaron Glenn versus the Lions, obviously.
40:09I mean, the Lions, I've talked to this. The Lions are down an entire secondary.
40:14Literally, Kirby Joseph, Brian Branch, Terion Arnold, Ennis Rakestraw, Vontae Maddox.
40:17They're down an entire secondary. And the D-line's fine.
40:20I just, you know. But yeah, the Jets would be really cool.
40:23I think he'd play Garrett Wilson as a must start this week.
40:27I think Garrett Wilson could go nuclear the next few weeks.
40:30Lions, horrific defense. Bears, bad defense. Browns are bad vibes.
40:33Patriots is good defense. But then it's the Dolphins.
40:36Like, Garrett Wilson, from now on, for the next month, could be the number one receiver in fantasy.
40:41And that wouldn't blow my mind. I don't know if it's likely.
40:45But, like, those are bad defenses. And he's getting a third of the snaps, or a third of the targets.
40:51Yeah. Yeah, A.D. Mitchell, I think, is usable. I think the Jets' offense is going to be really good for the next month.
40:57But the defense is the thing that I kind of was really dubious of.
41:02I felt like Aaron Glenn grabbed play calling to save his own ass.
41:06And I was very skeptical of the Jets. I mean, the coaching staff, everything.
41:10Frank Reich being out of the league for two years.
41:13Craig Frank Reich defended his shotgun run in fourth down.
41:16I think he heard you. He said that there's a 4% better chance running him on fourth down from a shotgun than there is under center.
41:23And then Frank Reich said, Craig Krollbeck, go fuck yourself.
41:26Good. I like that, actually, in an OC. Defend your picks.
41:30Defend your calls. Old man using math. You're like, whoa.
41:33By the way, A.D. Mitchell was added to the injury report with a finger injury yesterday.
41:37Or today, I should say. Is it bad that I want to be like, which finger?
41:42I've got nine more. Yeah, I kind of, the Lions are level, but I actually kind of do want the Jets to win this game.
41:50That'd be nice. Yeah. We like the Jets. I kind of like the Jets.
41:54Chiefs are at the Dolphins. Against the Lions of all teams.
41:57I know. The America's team. I know. I like the Lions too.
42:01But Chiefs are at the Dolphins. Not much here.
42:03Chiefs are favored by 10 and a half. My stat here is that the Chiefs have 372 rushing yards through two games,
42:10which is their most in a season since 1978.
42:13And to couple it with that, Patrick Mahomes has completed a career-high 14 passes with play action over the first two weeks.
42:19And so it's the Kenneth Walker effect. The Chiefs being able to run the ball.
42:24Kenneth Walker is the new Tyree kill for the Chiefs.
42:27He's the force multiplier. He's opening everything up. It used to be like sending Tyree deep, and now it's the threat of the run.
42:34It's completely opening everything up. I do want to point out with Ken Walker, it's two games, so the extrapolation is a little bit over the top.
42:42But he is currently technically on pace for 476 touches, which would be the second most ever.
42:47Yeah. That's 100 more than Saquon got the year they won the Super Bowl.
42:51They're going to scale that back a wee bit.
42:54They're going to scale that back. That's why Rashi Rice is going to get more of this stuff, I think.
43:00Yes, I think so too. But yeah, I just wanted to start there.
43:04The Chiefs running game and the play action passing is perfectly in tandem and totally working.
43:08We don't have to linger here, do we? Okay, no.
43:11The Chiefs are favored by 10 and a half.
43:14This game sucks. The next game, the Patriots are at the Jaguars this week.
43:18My stat is last year, an expected points added per drop back.
43:22Drake May ranked first. And this year, Drake May ranks 32nd.
43:25So that's a big difference. Where are you at on the panic scale?
43:29One to 10. 6.2. I'm not as panicked as others.
43:32Yeah, I'm not panicked. But I acknowledge that. Which one of you said that what is the percentage chance that Drake May is Carson Wentz?
43:39It was an intrusive thought I had on Sunday night.
43:42I was like, what if he's a fear deep down in my gut?
43:46What if he's Carson Wentz? I think you're wrong.
43:49But I also admit that you've given me a thought virus where now that bounces around in the back of my head.
43:55Like our intro at the beginning of the show.
43:58That is just like, I can't get rid of it.
44:01It's just bouncing here. And every week that he plays poorly, I'm going to be like, huh?
44:06I do think- Every pick he throws. Uh-oh. Well, it's similar.
44:09Carson Wentz had an incredible run against Met Competition.
44:12And it was mostly this unsustainable third down shit.
44:15Second year of his career. Yeah. Super Bowl that he didn't get to go to.
44:19Drake May, I think it will be elite still.
44:22Having said that, this season, his feet have just been a mess.
44:25And your footwork, a quarterback's footwork is just a window into a quarterback's mind.
44:30And Drake May's feet are really scattered. And Drake May, for whatever reason, and I don't totally get it, is just not seeing things.
44:37He doesn't see defenders right in front of where he's throwing.
44:40Drake May is not seeing open receivers that are like the intended target of the play that are wide open.
44:46And he's moving out of clean pockets. He's just bounced.
44:49Like, his footwork indicates this, for whatever reason, hesitation.
44:52And hesitation affects execution. And so he's just not getting passes there, which is weird because his arm strength's fine.
44:58But it's all connected. And he doesn't have- I don't know if he's thinking like Brooks Koepka style, where Brooks Koepka was
45:04like- I remember, you know, the comment he made about Scotty Scheffler, where he's like, the best golfer in the world is not thinking about shit.
45:12You know what I mean? And then, like, Drake May looks like he's thinking.
45:16And he's way better when he's not thinking. And I don't know how much- Yeah.
45:21And so we'll see what happens. But part of it is Mike Unwenu is the best offensive lineman for the Patriots.
45:27And he broke his ankle last week. And he's out for the season.
45:31The Patriots would probably have to make the Super Bowl for Mike Unwenu to come back this year.
45:36He was their best lineman. And this was not a good offensive line.
45:40So now A.J. Brown is probably the focal point of the passing game.
45:44And Mike Unwenu is kind of the focal point, but he's the best offensive lineman.
45:48That's not good. Because Drake May is not in a good place and just lost his best offensive lineman.
45:54So, you know, you're not going to play the Seahawks and Steelers defense every week.
45:58Yeah. But the Jaguars defense is kind of- That is kind of who you play every week.
46:04So I kind of think this is like a really- Whoever the Patriots are this week, I kind of think it's how they're going to be.
46:11By the way, the Jags also have 24 interceptions in the last two years.
46:15Tied for first. God, 24 is so many more.
46:18That's crazy. That's so many. You know- It's so many times more than zero.
46:22That's just so much. It's such a bigger number than zero.
46:26Zero is like impossible. You know, I tried to trade Bill like an hour ago.
46:30He has Colson Loveland. I tried to trade him Travion Henderson for Colson Loveland.
46:34He said no. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. Believer. He has Sam Laporta and Loveland.
46:38And he has like no RB3. So I was like, this is perfect.
46:42He's got two- That is actually- I'm giving him Travion Henderson, which I think is like reasonable offer.
46:48Shot it down immediately. I don't know if that says more about Loveland or Travion, but- Or maybe he just doesn't want to fucking trade with you.
46:56You ever have that? I don't think so, but maybe.
46:59Well, Loveland has one good game. It bounces back.
47:01The Titans are at the Giants. Titans are 0-2.
47:04Giants are 1-1. My one fact is 68 snaps.
47:07That's how many snaps Jackson Dart and Malik Nabors have together.
47:10It's basically two games. Jackson Dart and Malik Nabors have played two games.
47:14I mean, technically three, but like none of them finished any of the games.
47:18Yeah. It's just brutal. I guess week one, I guess technically they did.
47:22But like even that one was like the one game they played together and finished.
47:26It was like an absolute miracle. And Dart gave Malik Nabors the football.
47:30And I'm wondering if that will actually just be the only great moment they have together in their careers.
47:36It's going to be really annoying because as we go along this season and we're sorting all our stat columns and everything,
47:42it's always going to be Jackson Dart right at the top.
47:46Like success rate, EPA for drop back, completion rate.
47:48And it's just like Jackson Dart, two games. It's like a monument to the fallen.
47:53Yeah, the filter. I was just every every stat I was searching for for the show.
47:58I was like, oh, there's Jackson Dart. Oh, that's so dark.
48:01He out for the season. He damaged his meniscus, his MCLs, PCLs, ACLs intact, which great.
48:06The kick in the nuts was they're like, if the Giants make the playoffs, maybe we'll be back.
48:11I'm like, yeah, sure. Fucking what are you talking about?
48:14Can I give you a medical theory that's definitely wrong, but I kind of but I believe that I know is incorrect, but I believe.
48:21Okay, sure. I think Jackson Dart's season ending injury is Caleb Williams's fault.
48:25Okay, because Jackson Dart walked to the locker room.
48:28He like he heard it even more on the walk to the locker room.
48:32I think I think he made it worse. He also walked back onto the field and was fucking hanging out on the sideline.
48:39He was standing and I'm like, I think he walked back there because Caleb Williams got carded off and Dart saw 24 hours of Caleb Williams getting memed.
48:47So he walked and I don't know if it get worse, but it didn't get better walking to the x-ray room.
48:54And then look, walking off the field, I get it.
48:57You're tough. It's the adrenaline. You want to get off.
49:00Once you're on the sideline, I can't believe they let Jackson Dart with a season ending knee injury, MCL, PCL, meniscus.
49:06They let the motherfucker walk with cleats on concrete, which is slippery to the x-ray room because Caleb Williams got memed.
49:12I mean, look, yeah, but one, they didn't know he did that to his knee and two.
49:17Well, that's why you put them on the cart, Craig.
49:20Well, because they don't know. I'm assuming it's that's all Dart.
49:23Dart is probably like, I'm fine. It twisted a little bit.
49:27It's all right. Sure. I guess we'll get tested, but I feel fine.
49:31He tried to come back in the damn game.
49:33Yeah. And if Caleb Williams had not made fun of Dart would have been like, I'll get the cart.
49:39Yeah, but who's got it worse? Would you rather would you rather be memed for a couple of days or miss the entire season?
49:46I actually don't know. Really good question. Anyway, I know that I'm wrong.
49:50Like potentially ruin your career or get mean? I mean, both of them are potentially ruining careers.
49:55Yeah. DK, would you rather let's just ask you a non-athlete, a podcaster.
49:59Sure. Would you rather be memed into oblivion for a week or like break your arm?
50:04Break my arm. I think, you know, the rule is like you never, ever want to be the main character on Twitter.
50:10Like that's the lowest of the low. Yeah. For a day.
50:14You just don't ever want to be the main character on any given day.
50:18You're like the number one trending on Twitter for something really stupid.
50:21I think I'd rather break my arm. It doesn't hurt your career or anything like that, but it's really embarrassing.
50:27I'm going arm. Okay. Physical pain. Break it, Pepe Le Pew!
50:31Ew! Ah! Just say I like really thin pancakes.
50:33Anyway. Yeah. I could talk about this game. Is this the first true like who cares?
50:38Like James Winston and the Giants. You can play Malik Neighbors, play Scadaboo, play Isaiah Likely.
50:43That's it. I'll tell you. I mean. The one thing.
50:46The most embarrassing part of this game is that the Giants are favored by two and a half points.
50:51Like Jesus. Oh, it's tight. And also the Dart thing is a real like air out of the balloon for this is Brian Dable versus the Giants.
50:59Brian Dable is the offensive coordinator for the Titans.
51:02Dable obviously is the reason they got Dart. He coached Dart, got fired because of how he put Dart back in the game.
51:09The irony is that now Dart is out for the season with an unrelated reason to Brian Dable.
51:14But now I don't even care that we're facing Brian Dable.
51:18I feel like this whole season is fucking ruined.
51:20So I don't even give a shit. I just can't believe their favorite.
51:24Hey, Fitz. Go for it. The tone he said that.
51:27I don't even fucking care. I don't. I honestly like I maybe that's a not professional thing to say, but like how
51:34much I cared about this game and facing Dable when Dart was playing versus not.
51:38Like I honestly like I don't. This season's so over.
51:41It's like the wedding crushers thing. It's like, hi, it's it's Luke.
51:45It's Owen Wilson. Whatever. Whatever. I mean, don't worry.
51:47Love's not real. But that's OK. Because friendship's not real either.
51:51So would you rather that like Jameis is pretty decent?
51:54You guys win six games, seven games, or would you rather win like three?
51:58Just give me three. I'm used to it. It doesn't even affect me anymore.
52:02Maybe three games. I've done that. Craig, I've done that four times in eight years.
52:06I don't fucking care. It's fine. Andrew Thomas, the left tackle's hurt.
52:10He might play. Ryan Burns is out. Like, I just I can't believe how many players got injured.
52:15Neighbors is going to play at least. Yeah. Sure.
52:18Great. That almost like put him on ice. Yeah.
52:21Great. Put him in cryo for all I care.
52:23Yeah. He should probably just take a month off.
52:26Right. Get healthy. Yeah. Why? Yes. You should just take a month off.
52:30Yeah. They should just give up. They should. Pay a fine and don't play the season.
52:35Scadaboo, rest his leg. Malik Neighbors, rest his knee.
52:37Just pay a big fine and quit. Put him on cryo.
52:41God. God. All right. Before we get to the late slate, Fandles got your back to start the season, giving everyone Bet
52:47Protect Plus for free all September long so your bets are covered if your player gets injured.
52:52So we're going to each give you our favorite touchdown score of the weekend.
52:57I wish the Giants had Bet Protect Plus. That would be really nice.
53:00That would have been great. My touchdown bet of the week is Jackson Smith and Jigba.
53:05It's only even money for Jason to score a touchdown this week.
53:09Seattle's playing Washington. There are all these memes of like what last week Mike Sandras still in coverage for Washington.
53:15Just he didn't know what month it was. He didn't know where.
53:18I don't know if he knew what sport he was playing.
53:22It was probably the worst game he's ever had.
53:24JSN is going to put Mike Sandras still in a blender.
53:28And the fact that it's even money for Jason to score, I was kind of shocked.
53:32And I think it's actually going to change. So that's mine.
53:36Mike Sandras still. I like Mike Sandras. Good slot.
53:38Liked him at Michigan. He's having a tough go of it.
53:42He's listening right now. And he just threw the meme of the headphones.
53:45The guy throwing them off. He just did that.
53:48Let me tell you something. Mike knows. Oh, yeah.
53:51Who is that? That guy's a soccer coach, right?
53:53I forget his name. He's the famous soccer coach.
53:56Everyone know what? Like soccer screaming at me. Screaming.
53:59My bad. Yeah, I'm going to. I want to talk about Marino.
54:02Jose Marino. I figured it out. Marino. Shit. Yeah.
54:05So is it. Marino. I'm going to talk about the Lions-Jets game.
54:09We talked about it earlier how, one, we think the Jets could win this game.
54:13It's going to be a really high total. What was it?
54:16The Lions have given up the most first downs, second most first downs like ever.
54:21Yes. For two weeks. 63 first downs in two weeks.
54:24Unheard of. I think Dino Smith has been playing a lot better than his stats suggest.
54:29He's only thrown one touchdown through two games because honestly, mostly it was either raining or they ran the ball into the end zone.
54:36And I think now playing this game in Detroit, in the dome, high total.
54:40Gino Smith to throw three touchdowns is plus 580.
54:43It's basically six to one for Gino to throw three or more touchdowns.
54:46So I'm going with that. I like it. I think Gino's playing sharp.
54:50Mine is for the Ravens-Cowboys game. I'm just going to say Mark Andrews, anytime touchdown.
54:55I just like, I like Andrews in this offense.
54:58He's been one of Lamar's favorite targets in the offense.
55:01And I think looking back the last couple of years, he just finds the way to get into the end zone.
55:07So I'm going Mark Andrews. That's really big of you to wager your own capital.
55:11Kind of back in on Andrews. Yeah. He did.
55:14He did absolutely see a ball brick off his hands in the first game.
55:18Like maybe one of the worst I've ever seen.
55:21And then, you know what? He bounced back and now he's been pretty solid.
55:25Okay. I like that. So you have Mark Andrews.
55:28I have JSN. Craig, who is yours again? Gino.
55:30Garrett Wilson. Oh, Gino himself. Yeah. Three passing touchdowns.
55:33Oh, passing touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to put these all together and I'm going to Gino having three passing touchdowns.
55:39So I'm trying to figure out, sorry, what happens if we all win these bets?
55:44If Gino has, I'm just going to put over one and a half touchdowns.
55:48If we all hit that, that would be 10 to one.
55:51There you go. There you go. And then we get just Matt Ryan would be president of football.
55:57We become president of FanDuel, I think, if we hit that.
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56:28All right. Late slate. DK Cardinals one and one.
56:31They are playing the 49ers 2 and 0 divisional NFC West game.
56:34Yeah, I'm going with my one stat for this game is a Brock Purdy stat.
56:39Brock Purdy's off target rate through two games is 1.8%.
56:421.8% by far the best in the NFL. This man is surgical through two games.
56:46He's been incredible. I think I'm finally starting to catch up with everyone else.
56:50And just marvel at him week to week. And just some of the throws that he's making.
56:56Top 10 Brock. There's one play. Despite how ugly he is.
56:59Because you ranked him as the 32nd hottest quarterback in the NFL.
57:02I know. I know. I've come around on it.
57:05Maybe he's a little cuter than I thought. The refs were, when they were introducing themselves to him prior to the game last week.
57:12There was like a behind the scenes thing. The refs were like, don't hit that Dougie on me.
57:18Don't hit that Dougie. He's one of the only white quarterbacks really willing to dance.
57:22You know? Yeah. Yeah. There was one play last week.
57:25One play last week where I was just like, damn, this guy is actually really good.
57:30And he got outside the pocket. He pump faked.
57:32Got a guy to jump in the air. Ran past him.
57:36And then threw a pass as he was drifting to his left.
57:39He threw a pass and hit Mike Evans. Like only spot that he could have put the football to make that completion.
57:46Evans almost scored a touchdown on the play. And I was just like, this guy is actually ridiculously good.
57:52This was an important moment because when disrespected quarterbacks, when you're bitter divisional rivals who hate you, it finally admit, yeah, that guy is really good.
57:59Yeah. It actually is the final level. He's been to a Super Bowl.
58:03Yeah. He's good. I like that. It took like six years to be like, yeah.
58:08Look, he's on one of my fantasy teams this year.
58:11So that's all that really matters. He was like very close to winning the Super Bowl.
58:15Literally, they had the lead in the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl.
58:19They went to overtime of a Super Bowl. And they should have gone to another one, but he couldn't play.
58:25I don't remember any of that. Anyway, pretty playing awesome.
58:28He is. The Cardinals, you know, the Cardinals are plucky, I think, and better than probably I think people think they are.
58:35But I like the 49ers a lot in this game.
58:38Their offense is just an absolute buzzsaw right now, even with all the injuries that they're going through.
58:43There are two things from this game I really do want to talk about.
58:47One is Kyle Juszczyk, the fullback for the Niners, got fined for chugging a beer as a celebration.
58:53This is so ridiculous. On his touchdown this week.
58:5515K. $15,000. That's ridiculous. Kyle Juszczyk's like, my name is Juszczyk.
58:59Everyone calls me Juice. It's a juice. I don't even drink beer.
59:02Also, I believe Bud Light. So he got fined 15K for drinking something.
59:06Isn't Bud Light the official beer sponsor of the NFL?
59:09Yeah. All you see during the football is beer commercials.
59:12You don't want to drink it or? I don't get it.
59:15Yeah. You want us to do it or not?
59:18Pick a side. Getting a lot of mixed signals here, NFL.
59:21You know? It is like the funniest thing. You can't chug.
59:25The celebrations thing. Miming chugging is problematic? I don't know.
59:27Someone this week should do like a wine glass and have their pinky up.
59:32Because the whole thing is, it's like not classy apparently.
59:35Like what is the language? Do you guys have it?
59:38Oh, yeah. This is an NFL statement. Oh, that was a voice crack.
59:42Sorry. NFL statement. The NFL said players are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that reflects positively on the game and is consistent with standards of sportsmanship.
59:50If you do the wine glass pinky in the air.
59:53That's classy. Yeah. That connotes intellect. Or if you cheers with someone first, maybe that's like showing good camaraderie.
59:58Sure. Something like that. Even though, aren't there guys this year, I believe, who have scored and they do the shotgun thing?
60:05Oh, do they? Oh, maybe? With the ball? Well, the other celebration was the Bengals one with Jamar Chase.
60:11And they find him for, you know, who knows what this could be.
60:15Sure. And he said it's the people's elbow. It's a wrestling move.
60:18Is that what they're calling it? I feel like it's definitely not that.
60:22Oh, man. I like that. The people's elbow. We did Recipe Club.
60:26The episode came out a couple weeks ago. And we shotgun beers on Recipe Club.
60:30I was bummed that didn't make it to the breakouts.
60:33That wasn't on Instagram. We all shot in a pod studio.
60:36They would have fined us. The classy move. Right.
60:39It's not classy. So apparently people's elbow, I guess the rock that is the rock's move.
60:44I'm looking at people's elbow now. All the WWE people screaming.
60:47The rock does that. But I feel like it's a dick joke.
60:51It's got to be a dick joke. Also, people's elbow is ridiculous.
60:54That's a crazy name. I feel like there's a large YouTube compilation of this.
60:58The fun thing to do, I feel like as an NFL athlete, is to come up with very like ambiguous sexual or
61:05inappropriate celebrations, but then find an alibi. Find something that you can claim that it's actually about.
61:10An alibi. Find an alibi for your celebration. It's the rock.
61:13Oh, that's good. Oh, my God. Okay. The only other one, maybe we'll do this later, but like Marvin Harrison Jr.'s career is over.
61:20And the Cardinals, it seems like they hate him.
61:23He's not going to leave the league immediately. No, I do think he might get traded.
61:28T.J. Hanzada had an incredible breakdown of this. And anyway, I do think Marvin Harrison Jr.
61:33is going to get like traded. I don't know if this is a big week because they're either going to force him
61:39the ball and try to get Marvin Harrison, the football to put this to bed or they're going to.
61:45Yeah, no, fuck this guy. He's our fourth. The Houshman's out of thing was funny because it was simultaneously like, oh, that's
61:51yeah, that's interesting hearing from a former pro, like how to play the game, how to do it, everything right.
61:57But then like his suggestion was, hey, man, you got to try harder.
62:01Yeah. Like, yeah, no shit. Like, I hope someone told him that.
62:05Do you think anyone told him that? I think Houshman's out of like, if I had to give him some advice, I would say you should try harder.
62:13Well, it was interesting. Yeah. Insight though. Because it kind of did.
62:17I feel like it was the simplest answer of like, why is Marvin Harrison Jr.
62:21so bad? Yeah. And the answer is to me, he's only been the best player ever on the field his entire life.
62:28And he just has reacted very poorly to adversity.
62:30Honestly, like he has handled the adversity of the situation horribly.
62:34And he just doesn't try. It probably happens with a lot of athletes who are naturally gifted and, you know, the higher
62:40rungs of the sport that you get to, your physical abilities start to even out with everybody else's.
62:46And then it becomes more of an effort thing.
62:48Yeah. A focus. Habits. Yeah. And also, most of these guys are never used to losing.
62:53Most of these guys have not lost football games.
62:56Like, even like Mark Sanchez is, well, I guess that's bad now.
62:59But like people who became punchlines in the NFL.
63:02Most of these guys have lost single digit games in their entire life.
63:06Many have not lost more than two or three in their entire life.
63:10And then you go three and 14. Yeah. That's like the Kyler Murray thing that you always talk about.
63:15He lost two football games. You have to learn to deal with losing in the NFL.
63:20Yeah. That's kind of crazy. Speaking of Kyler Murray.
63:23Vikings are at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this week.
63:26Yeah. Vikings are favored in this game by a point and a half.
63:29My stat is that the Vikings defense is first in pressures, first in sacks, and first in QB hits.
63:35And the Bucs, Baker Mayfield has taken the third most sacks in the league.
63:39I'm very nervous for Baker Mayfield and the Bucs.
63:42I guess the zag here would be this line is closer than I thought it would be.
63:47It seems like Kyler Murray's back and he's going to be playing.
63:51Maybe Vegas is worried about Minnesota's offense. But this line is closer than I thought it was going to be.
63:57I would have expected that this is a game to avoid for a lot of Bucs players, that this is not going
64:03to be the game that Baker's going to get back to what we thought he was going to be.
64:09And the Bucs just let up a pretty good performance to Deshaun Watson.
64:13And so I was much more inclined to focus on Minnesota this week.
64:17So I was very surprised by the line being so close.
64:20It's just the cards and wents of it all.
64:23But I, yeah, I think the Vikings, I mean, if the Buccaneers come in and they paid Baker Mayfield this big contract
64:29and then the Bucs start 0-3, I mean, Todd Bowles is not going to make it past the season if the Bucs lose the playoffs.
64:37I don't know if the Bucs would fire Todd Bowles midseason, but I think people, it's hard to, it probably doesn't get
64:43properly calibrated how bad the vibes sour when everyone knows the coach will get fired if you miss the playoffs and then you start fucking 0-3.
64:51Why did you say that Carson Wentz of it all?
64:54Isn't Kyler Murray starting? Oh, yeah. Sorry. That was literally my transition.
64:57Yeah. No, well, sorry. It's Kyler played. Kyler looked terrible in the first 10.
65:02He threw five passes, but yeah. I agree. But the first one was an interception.
65:06True. It was like a legitimate shock. One of which was a pick.
65:10Right. This will be fast. I do agree, though, Craig.
65:13This is a really fascinating matchup. Like the Vikings against the Bucs offenses.
65:17It seems like that could go really poorly for the Buccaneers.
65:20Yeah. I just think this game is going to be ugly.
65:23Like I'm not playing. I don't know. Like the Vikings running backs.
65:27Aaron Jones is banged up. Jordan Mason's out. I think if Wentz was playing with the lingo up or down.
65:33It wouldn't get better for Minnesota. Right. I'm not playing Jordan Addison.
65:36Like I think the only person you're playing on Minnesota is Justin Jefferson.
65:40And I think, I mean, you're in, you're only probably playing Bucky Irving and I guess a Bucca, but even that.
65:47The. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I agree.
65:50Next game. Ravens are at the Dallas Cowboys. Both are one and one.
65:54This game is in Brazil. Yeah. You talk about the game, but we have to talk about the field.
65:59Yeah. So I'll give you my stat. This isn't groundbreaking, but my one stat is the Cowboys defense is dead last in success rate.
66:07And success rate again, it's just yards with context.
66:09So it's like third and one, two yards is good.
66:12And third and 10, two yards is bad. And by yards with context, the Cowboys are the worst defense in the NFL.
66:19So in one way, this game is very simple to me.
66:22Jerry Jones traded Micah Parsons and was like, we're going to be about run defense now.
66:27It's like Don Draper, like run defense and not going so well.
66:30And then the, like the cow, you know, now the Ravens are coming off a game they lost because they gave Derek
66:37Henry the ball five times with the lead in the second half.
66:40And so the Ravens are coming in. They're going to want to run and the Cowboys can't stop the run.
66:46And everyone knows that's what they're going to do.
66:49And I think the Ravens are going to be able to do it anyway.
66:53And the Cowboys defense has been bad. But what's incredible is that their last in success rate, even though they got, they've
67:00played four halves and one of them was against Marcus Mariota.
67:03And they're still terrible. When Jane Daniels was playing, they got inside the 10 yard line, three drives in a row.
67:09So I think the Ravens are kind of going to run all over them.
67:14I don't think the Cowboys defense can stop them, but the field might be able to stop Baltimore, which is kind of
67:20why I don't want to, I don't want to touch this game for ringer 107 or anything, but this, the field is the wild card here.
67:28Right. It's just like a variable that we don't know what to do with really.
67:32But I like that. That's a great point. Heifetz is like, everyone's just all over the Ravens this week for not using Derek Henry enough.
67:40This is going to be all Henry in this game.
67:43They're going to smash mouth. It might get 30 carries.
67:46Can I read you some of this quotes that the, there's some of the soccer players who play in this Brazilian field say.
67:53Sure. So this field, this game is that I'm going to butcher all the pronunciations of everyone's name and everything involved, but
67:59it's the field is at the, um, the Americana.
68:02Which is like a very famous soccer stadium. Yes.
68:05So the, this is from the goalkeeper, Augustine Rossi, Rossi of Flamengo, which is a soccer team there.
68:10Quote, you don't even need to talk about the field.
68:13It's there for everyone to see the way we play.
68:16It's unbelievable that we're playing on a field like this.
68:19Both penalty areas are as bad as shit. If you look at it, there are bumps everywhere.
68:24There's still going to be an NFL game here during the international break.
68:28After that game, I hope the field's in better shape.
68:31And then another old school football right here. Another player said it's getting harder and harder to control the ball.
68:37And if we want to be champions, we have to find a solution because we can't be playing on a field like this.
68:44So the NFL has this giant sewing machine machine, like this giant sewing machine thing they do.
68:49And I think it's the funniest thing in the world because it's this giant industrial thing, sewing grass.
68:54And then the guys following it have the tiniest scissors in the entire world I've ever seen.
68:59They're sewing the grass? They're like, it's like hair plugs.
69:02I don't know. There's like this giant machine and it just shoves grass.
69:06The new turkey. Yeah. Yeah, it's like turkey. They're doing the turkey plane trip for the stadium, shoving grass and like hair plugs.
69:13And then these guys are following it with, I swear to God, they're the smallest scissors I've ever seen in my life.
69:19Clipping blades individually. Little scissors that come out of like a Swiss army knife.
69:23Yes. I swear to God. Guys, they got to get the big long cleats, right?
69:28Like, doesn't this always happen every game that they do internationally where like the guys all come out in their regular cleats
69:34and then everyone switches that like after the first quarter and then it's fine.
69:39They all left Thursday. They're all bringing, yeah, they're bringing cleats.
69:42You know, the spikes have different lengths. They're bringing that.
69:45I, you know, they have a, the problem though, really, is that Rio de Janeiro, Rio has the rainiest September since they started tracking it.
69:52Rio is surrounded by a rainforest. Do you know how much rain they get?
69:57And it's the rainiest one. It has basically, it basically didn't stop raining in Rio from September 1st to September 20th.
70:03Because this is the first game here. The NFL has been in Brazil before, but that was in Sao Paulo, right?
70:09Not here. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be interesting.
70:12It's going to be a slog probably. The Brazil game two years ago, I think it was Eagles Packers.
70:17That's where Jordan Love got hurt. Yes. And that was where the field was clumping.
70:22So the guy who was in both games is Kenny Clark because he was the defensive tackle on the Packers and he's on Dallas.
70:29Now, Kenny Clark called the field in that game mushy, which it's a good term.
70:33But yeah, so I kind of think the Ravens will run all over, but the Cowboys, but I don't want to bet on it because who knows?
70:42Right. You know, we have sources on the ground.
70:44It's useful. It's useful that the race is like not really a home game for the Cowboys, you know?
70:50Correct. Yeah. It's like, that's an interesting dynamic here.
70:53Correct. No. Yeah. They're in Brazil. It's in a whole different country.
70:56You guys. Technically, it is in America. It's in South America.
70:59What does that do? They're America's team. Oh, okay.
71:02Wow. You landed that plate. I'm really, I'm really, I'm really pushing through with this guy.
71:07Good for you. That was nice. You saved that.
71:10All right. Raiders are at the Saints. The Raiders are at the Saints.
71:13My one stat. You may not know this. You might already know this.
71:17Tyler Shuck is leading the NFL in passing yards through two weeks, which is great.
71:22He's got a lot of three hundred and thirty-two per game.
71:25I love Shuck. His, his, I looked up his first half set slash second half splits and they're hilarious.
71:31In the first half, 59% completions, 93 yards and zero touchdowns and a 3.8 adjusted yards per attempt.
71:363.8 adjusted yards per attempt is horrific. In the second half of two games so far, 75% completions, 237 yards, 9.6 yards per attempt, 119 passer rating.
71:44He is incredible in the second half. He's going full T-Bow, but he's actually good.
71:49He is. It's, uh, the heroics just really show up as the game goes along.
71:53I want to see him play four quarters of good football.
71:56Um, weirdly, and I'm not just like listening to Austin.
71:59The Raiders defense has been pretty good through two weeks.
72:02Um, their pressure rate is 47%, which is second only to the Vikings.
72:06Crosby is looking incredible. It's funny that they like had to keep him, but now he's been like amazing for them.
72:12Um, they're tied for the Lehigh with eight sacks.
72:15They're third in quarterback hits first and success, uh, success rate on defense.
72:19And they rank eighth in defensive DVOA. Obviously, um, you know, the, the, the competition is a factor here and I want
72:26to see them play some good teams, but overall pretty surprising job by the Raiders defense.
72:30It also looks like Brock Bowers is going to be back in this game.
72:34Yep. He was limited today. Trending, I think trending towards playing.
72:38So that's great. These are two teams that it's that I think whoever wins this game will be a, this team is for real.
72:45If the Raiders go three and O, I think people will start to think about them differently.
72:50And I think if the saints can get another good win, people will start to take them seriously.
72:55Sunday night football Rams are at the Broncos. They're both one-on-one.
72:59Man. My, my, my, my one fact is Aaron Donald played 32 snaps and got double teamed seven times.
73:04And I just, I feel like everyone's like, yeah, I'll be on a snap count, all this stuff.
73:10His first game back, he played half the snaps and I don't, I, I, people like, yeah, he'll rotate it.
73:16And I'm like half the snaps in week one after you unretired two weeks ago feels like more than just rotating in.
73:22I thought Aaron Donald was incredibly impactful. I thought his return got overshadowed by Jackson dark, getting hurt.
73:28And I, it's one thing to do it against the giants.
73:31Also Aaron Donald made the biggest play of the, of the game, which the third and two where the J stuff Najee Harris.
73:38And then the giants couldn't even go for it on fourth down.
73:41Like that went, that like ended the game basically.
73:44And then the Rams ran up the score, but it's the Broncos have a great offensive line.
73:49They have one of the best interior offensive lines.
73:52It's the strength of their team. A lot of people think they have the best offensive line period.
73:57If Aaron Donald is like, we will Sunday night football.
74:00And I think that matters because if last week's game was on Sunday football, Chris Collinsworth would have like came in his pants talking about Aaron Donald.
74:08And I think Chris Collinsworth going to do that.
74:11Like he's got, Oh, Aaron Donald, Mike, like I can't do it as well as Craig.
74:15Mike, 35 is the new 25. Mike. He's just going to, he's going to talk about he won defensive player of the
74:22year after missing week one, like five years. I'm just saying Aaron Donald being back.
74:27It's Chris, just prepare. Craig, have you ever done a Chris Collinsworth orgasm?
74:30Have you ever like, can you do that? Have I ever done one?
74:34No, I've been saving it for the right moment.
74:37Okay. Well, it's going to be this week. I hope it happens this week.
74:41We need Aaron Donald to almost sack Patrick Mahomes and then Mahomes escapes.
74:45And I think that'll be like the big Chris Collinsworth moment.
74:48I've heard a Chris Collinsworth orgasm before during the second beast quake for Marshawn Lynch.
74:53Midway through the run, he's like, Oh, you can just like hear him because he's like Marshawn had like had broken like
74:59five tackles by the point he gets into like open field and you can just hear Collinsworth go.
75:05Oh, that was when he had Al. Al. Oh, Al.
75:08Oh. It's the best. So good. Pukinaku is probably not going to play this game.
75:12Sean McVay went on the radio. Yeah, that'll make a great progress.
75:16And it's like almost jarring to hear a coach just say that.
75:19Do you think he's very, he's very forthcoming? I feel like Sean McVay is.
75:23McVay really has like, like, um, why am I?
75:26Like Danny Glover in lethal weapon energy. We're like, he's just like, I'm too old for this shit.
75:31You get too old for this. Which is ironic because he's 40.
75:35Totally. Like he has such grizzled, like old vet energy.
75:38Sometimes despite the fact that he's still one of the younger coaches.
75:42McVay is in this really weird spot where he's coming up on being with the, like if Andy Reed retires, I forget.
75:48McVay might be the longest tenured coach in the NFL with the same team.
75:52I think that might be right. Dude. Because Tomlin and Harbaugh left.
75:56And so if Andy Reed's gone, maybe I'm forgetting someone, but I'm like, there's a world where he's like, ends up being
76:02the seventh youngest coach in the NFL, but also the longest tenured with his team, which is kind of insane to think about.
76:09Maybe I'm forgetting someone. By the way, Heifetz, Danny Glover was 40 years old when he delivered the line.
76:15I'm getting too old for this shit. Stop! In legal weapon?
76:18Dude. Yeah. 40 years old. Oh, I guess legal weapon won.
76:22Yeah. Oh my God. I would say he was communicating 50 plus in that movie.
76:26That's what you think he is. Everyone in the 80s was like way older looking, I feel like.
76:31Oh my God. Of course. I mean, everyone. You see the starting lineups for like high school football teams and these guys
76:38look like they're 35 with a mortgage. That is.
76:41You know what's going to be kind of a bummer situation for the Rams-Broncos game is like everyone, including myself, who's excited
76:47about Devontae Adams to puka out again. Sir Tan's going to be on Devontae.
76:51And I just feel like it's probably not going to be the same thing that happened against the Giants.
76:57Big Terrence. I would add Terrence Ferguson. If Terrence Ferguson's not added, I think Terrence Ferguson is going to be the number
77:04two receiver on the Rams basically every week that puka is out.
77:07And I agree. Because again, Alex Singleton, Broncos fans got it.
77:10I don't think Broncos fans love Alex Singleton, which is a whole thing.
77:14But I think Terrence Ferguson could put him in a blender.
77:18And also all three Broncos running backs are on the injury report.
77:21I know we said adjuno Coleman. He sprained his ankle during that game.
77:25So I kind of don't want to deal with the Broncos backfield.
77:29RJ Harvey, JK Dobbins having hamstring injuries and Jonah Coleman's got an ankle screen.
77:33Welcome back to hell. And then the Broncos are Sunday at football.
77:36So if anything changes, you can't make it ad.
77:39You can't really change anything. It's just kind of a nightmare.
77:42So like two days after we get done doing our waiver show and talking about Jonah Coleman as our top running back
77:49thing, he was hurt and not practicing. And RJ Harvey and JK Dobbins were practicing.
77:53I always just stay away from that. Just love it.
77:56It's so fun. Monday Night Football, Eagles are at the Bears.
78:00Eagles are 2-0. Bears are 1-1. We mentioned this at the jump.
78:03But yeah, so the Bears, we'll see Tyson Bajan, Case Keenum.
78:06It's a backup quarterback. Case Keenum, he really is like a coach.
78:10Like he's a coach being employed to be the number three quarterback.
78:14But he might as well be a mole. And he's there to teach the quarterbacks how to play football.
78:19And Case Keenum having to play would be like a disaster for the Bears.
78:23What if he just plays really well? Well, I feel like Luther Burden with Case Keenum.
78:28Nick Hill and I were talking about this. Feed your weapons.
78:31Case Keenum is not going to have the arm strength.
78:34All that Case Keenum has got is knowing the offense, getting the ball out quickly.
78:39The Bears offense is going to be get the ball to Luther Burden and guys who do have to catch.
78:45It's going to be Khalif Raymond. It's going to be Khalif Raymond day.
78:49My stat for this game is that the Eagles, last year they ranked 30th in average third down distance.
78:54Like worst. 7.5 yards for every third down on average.
78:57This year it's 7.9 yards. So they're going in the wrong direction.
79:01It's getting further and further away, that first down marker.
79:04I love that this is what ended the tush push is that Eagles can't even get to third and one.
79:10Right? That's the problem. I think they need to get their run game rolling.
79:14They're 25th in yards before contact per rush this year.
79:17Their offensive line has some injuries. They lost Stalin, their brilliant offensive line coach.
79:21So I do think, you know, as much as it was exciting comeback last week, that was against a pretty bad Titans team, I think.
79:29And we need to see the Eagles offense kick things up into gear again, I think still.
79:34So I'm going to be watching that against this Bears team that has given up a ton of points.
79:39So Saquon, it looks like he's going to play.
79:42He had a stinger, left the game, came back, then he got an MRI.
79:46We didn't hear anything yesterday. Sirianni was cagey earlier on Thursday and then later on Thursday, Saquon said the MRI went well.
79:53He practiced or he suited up for practice and he expects to play Monday.
79:57I think this is Saquon's best chance to have 100 rushing yards for like a month.
80:02Great. So I would play Saquon. Also, he's a buy low.
80:05I think Saquon will be fine. Yeah. I hope he wears the cowboy collar, which apparently everyone's like, you can't move in that thing.
80:12Like there's no way a running back should have that.
80:15But I thought that was cool to see him look like Mike Allstott for a second out there.
80:21All right. Ringer 107. Today's Ringer 107 is brought to you by FanDuel.
80:24Craig, you want to tell the people our picks?
80:27Yes. After some careful deliberation, we have landed on, we decided to make five picks this week, not four.
80:33Because we forgot to do one last week. We tied.
80:36When did we need five? We were giving them a handicap.
80:39It was, we made, did we only get four picks in?
80:42Maybe. But the line was Ringer Fantasy Show giving one.
80:45That's right. We were favored by one. So we just gave the point.
80:49And we went three and one. Did anyone else, did anyone win four picks last week?
80:54I don't think so. So we, even with one less pick, we still tied with the most.
80:59We covered the spread. Okay. This week we're going with Cincinnati minus three and a half against the Steelers.
81:05I feel good about that. We're going with the Jags minus two and a half versus the Patriots.
81:10Very nervous about the Patriots. We're taking Seattle minus seven and a half versus the Commanders.
81:15We're taking the Chiefs minus 10 and a half versus Miami.
81:18I feel like they can win by 30. And then the T's, the T's I concocted.
81:23I cooked up, pitched it to you guys. You were in the Raiders in New Orleans.
81:28The Raiders are right now three point underdogs. We're going to give them nine points.
81:32Now they're going to be nine point underdogs. All I got to do is keep it within nine points.
81:38And then we're going to take the total down to 37 and a half and take the over.
81:43So it'll be Raiders plus nine and over 37 and a half.
81:47You guys overruled me. I wanted to take the Ringer fantasy show will submit over four and a half picks this week.
81:53I don't know about that. You guys didn't like that.
81:56I kind of blame Heifetz because it has to be submitted by 11 Eastern.
82:00So like you're 8 a.m. Pacific on a Sunday morning.
82:03Come on. That it was all of our faults, but it was mostly my fault.
82:08Also, I was camping. So I didn't even have my phone in range of anything.
82:12So because DK was literally unreachable, it was my fault.
82:15I woke up at probably around eight o'clock and I remember frantically slacking Michael to be like, hey, can we have this game?
82:22And he ghosted me. I mean, it's all right.
82:25Mikey, yeah, no, he's, you know, it's all right.
82:27Everyone's just upset with us. You know, it's OK.
82:30He could have said, sorry, man. Missed the cutoff.
82:33Nothing. He left me on red. Mikey Meeple, you know, he's with Sal.
82:37You know, he's going to be Sal's guy. He's, you know, they're ringing it to Sal.
82:41Today's Ringer 107 was brought to you by FanDuel Odds, subject to change.
82:45The only thing I want to hit you guys with before we left is we asked about job titles.
82:51Matt Ryan, director of football. OK, then we got the guy who was president.
82:55President Matt Ryan was our president of football. And then someone sent us a guy who was president of ice cream.
83:01Roger Sherman, our former colleague. Roger Sherman texted me about job titles.
83:05Oh, yeah. And what's up, Raj? He'll find the funniest shit in the world.
83:09I'm going to send this to you guys. It's here.
83:12This right here. You can look at it. So he's so Stanford has an some anonymous donor at Stanford endowed.
83:18Like, you know, like you can have an endowed chair, like you're the professor, blah, blah, blah.
83:23Donor name is Matt. OK. Some anonymous donor endowed the offensive coordinator position at Stanford and they named it in honor of Andrew Luck.
83:30So the Stanford offensive coordinator job is called the Andrew Luck director of offense.
83:35What? That is the name of the offensive coordinator at Stanford.
83:38He endowed. So their salary is paid by the endowment.
83:41Is that what I think? But Andrew Luck did do it.
83:44Some other Stanford alum did it and then named it for Andrew Luck.
83:48What? So it's the Andrew Luck director of offense is the literal title.
83:52But then years later, Stanford hired Andrew Luck to be the general manager.
83:56So that if you go to this thing I sent you, Roger sent me, and Stanford's football coaching page now looks like this.
84:03And it's Andrew Luck general manager. And then underneath it, it says Terry Heffernan, Andrew Luck director of offense.
84:08Andrew Luck is hilarious. Their page. People that don't know the story are like this Andrew Luck guy.
84:14He's a megalomaniac. This guy's a diva. It's insane.
84:16He's like trying to name everything like someone else I know.
84:20Oh, my. The Andrew Luck Kennedy Center. I thought it was going to be like director of luck or something, which I would have loved.
84:27Oh, my God. I just. It's so funny. Okay.
84:30Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Nikhil.
84:32Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Cam. Emails trivia questions for trivia.
84:36Thank you, Lord. Lord. Lord, 80s month. We've got one week left.
84:39I'm concocting the playlist. DK, I believe you're up.
84:42Yo. I got a good one today, you guys.
84:45Okay. One of my favorite 80s bands of all time, Foreigner.
84:48Oh, I love Foreigner. The song. The song. Well, you can choose from a number of songs.
84:53They got Cold as Ice. They got. Oh, I want to know what love is.
84:57I'm going with Jukebox Hero. Jukebox Hero. Jukebox Hero.
85:00Stars in his eyes. Man, that is an 80s ass song.
85:03It's an epic ass song. I love that 80s song.
85:06I mean, I'm sure they do this now still, but like they tell you a story.
85:11Sure. It's like you're going on an actual journey with these people.
85:15Anyways, it's Jukebox Hero. Great song. Foreigner has some massive, massive hits.
85:18You guys. Even just Jukebox. It's like Jukebox just being in the title.
85:22Yeah, right? What is the story in that song?
85:25I feel like I just kind of. It's telling the story of this guy, the Jukebox Hero.
85:30I don't know. I don't know the exact plot yet, but it just takes you along his hero's journey.
85:36It was the song that was inspired by an actual fan who stood waiting outside an arena for about five hours in the rain.
85:43Impressed by his dedication, Mick Jones decided to take him in and give him a glimpse of what happens backstage at a concert.
85:50Wow. He's got stars in his eyes. You want to know my favorite Foreigner song, DK?
85:54Hmm. Feels Like the First Time. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.
85:57Wow. They have more songs than I realized. Feels Like the First Time.
86:01Wow. Feels Like the First Time. They've got, they have a lot of good hits.
86:06Dude. Yeah, Cold as Ice is great. Cold as Ice is great.
86:09Banger. You're as cold as ice. They're really dramatic.
86:12I love it. Ice. Yeah. That one, I always feel like early in my life.
86:16They're queen adjacent. In my head, I, yes, I was going to say, I always thought there was a Freddie Mercury song.
86:23Yeah. Yeah, I get that. Because he kind of sounds just like him in the beginning.
86:28Yeah. Foreigner. They're British. They're a British American band, I should say.
86:31Okay. America's team. They're performing in Brazil this week.
86:34It's not technically a home game for them, Cotton.
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