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Achane Tears His ACL, J.J. McCarthy Is a Giant, and Week 4 Waiver Wire Must-Add Players

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1 hr 8 min
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Sep 29, 2026
Published
Tue, September 29, 2026
60
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Players mentioned
Topics
J.J. McCarthyAlvin KamaraAustin EkelerBrock BowersDrake MayeJameis WinstonJayden DanielsMike Washington Jr.Ollie Gordon IIBaker MayfieldBo NixBraelon AllenBrian Thomas Jr.Caleb Williams
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Alvin Kamara

NegativeValue26:18

Kamara is described as 'kind of washed' and is being considered only as a one or two week stop gap option at running back, despite the Saints having run 222 plays through three weeks—60 more than Tennessee—which is a huge volume advantage that alone should make him more attractive if he were healthy or in form.

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NegativeRole43:26

Alvin Kamara is positioned as the likely beneficiary of Travis Henry's hamstring injury for the Saints, expected to play more snaps due to his veteran status and experience, though the source notes he is 'kind of washed' compared to Kendra Miller.

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Austin Ekeler

NegativeRole29:15

Austin Ekeler signed with Washington; the source is uncertain whether he should be added but wanted to mention the signing.

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NegativeRole29:38

Austin Ekeler has signed with Washington after coming off an Achilles tear; the source mentions his return to the NFL but does not provide a strong recommendation to add him, suggesting cautious evaluation given his injury recovery status.

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Baker Mayfield

NegativeInjury56:43

Mayfield has a dislocated thumb and is questionable for the Buccaneers-Packers game. If he doesn't play, Jalen Daniels (an undrafted free agent rookie) would start for Tampa Bay, which would significantly boost the Packers defense's upside.

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Bo Nix

PositiveProjection0:32

Bo Nix is identified as possibly the best quarterback in the 2024 draft class after Caleb Williams, suggesting strong performance and upside relative to other rookie quarterbacks.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveValue40:59

Braylon Allen is presented as a waiver wire target in the context of running back scarcity; the source suggests taking him as a potential starter if you have a need at the position, though with some hesitation about the Dolphins' offensive situation.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeProjection0:50

Brian Thomas Jr. had an impressive rookie season with 1,400 yards but is now probably cuttable in fantasy football for some players, suggesting a significant regression or role change in year two.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveProjection0:38

Brock Bowers is described as a football robot, suggesting exceptional consistency and performance as a tight end prospect from the 2024 draft class.

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NegativeRole50:02

Bowers is expected to move to X receiver in two tight end sets for the Raiders, with Michael Mayer becoming the primary tight end.

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Caleb Williams

NegativeProjection0:10

The source notes Caleb Williams' erratic three-year arc in the 2024 draft class: went from terrible in year one to great in year two, illustrating the volatility of early-career quarterback performance and the difficulty in evaluating draft classes within a three-year window.

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Darren Waller

PositiveRole43:39

Waller is positioned as the number two receiver in the Panthers offense with Teddy Bridgewater and DJ Moore ahead, and Jalen Coker (quad strain, questionable) potentially out. The source notes that Bryce Young looks to Waller frequently when scrambling, ranking him third behind Travis Kelce and Brock Bowers in that regard. Waller is a viable tight end option despite limited snap share.

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De'Von Achane

NegativeInjury0:00

Achane is out for the season with an ACL tear, as indicated in the episode title and opening discussion.

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Drake Maye

NegativeProjection0:18

Drake Maye's three-year trajectory has been highly inconsistent: went from bad to awesome to bad again, with the source comparing his current performance to Carson Wentz's 2026 season, suggesting a concerning regression pattern.

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PositiveMatchup55:37

Maye is playing for the Patriots against the Bills. The source recommends the Bills defense as a streaming option, hoping for a Drake Maye meltdown or turnover-worthy performance.

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Garrett Wilson

NegativeRole43:39

Wilson is the number one receiver for the Jets, with Sadiq positioned as the number two option when AD Mitchell is out.

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Geno Smith

PositiveProjection51:22

Smith was the number three quarterback in fantasy last week with 321 yards and three touchdowns. He's now playing the Bears defense, which the source considers fine but not elite. The source projects Smith will be good again this week and recommends him as a streamer.

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J.J. McCarthy

NegativeRole0:03

McCarthy was acquired by the Giants as a backup quarterback, not to compete with Jameis Winston for the starting job. The source notes McCarthy has only played 10 games in his NFL career and has dealt with multiple injuries including a meniscus injury, high ankle sprain, and concussion. Despite poor performance that the source describes as having 'sucked,' the source views the fifth-round pick acquisition as a low-risk dart throw on a former top-10 quarterback prospect, comparing it favorably to past quarterback reclamation stories like Sam Darnold and Geno Smith.

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NegativeInjury0:23

J.J. McCarthy is now on an injury list alongside Johnny Manziel, suggesting serious health or performance concerns that have derailed his early career trajectory.

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NegativeRole0:54

McCarthy was traded to the Giants from the Vikings in exchange for a fifth-round pick. The source characterizes this as a relatively low-risk, high-upside deal, citing recent precedent of draft-bust quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold turning into starters with a change of scenery, new coach, and new system. McCarthy has a 6-4 record as an NFL starter and is described as having a winning record in the league.

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NegativeProjection5:42

McCarthy is one of four first-round quarterbacks in the past 25 years to start 10 or fewer games for the team that drafted them, alongside Paxton Lynch, Trey Lance, and Johnny Manziel—a cohort characterized as 'just like the worst quarterbacks drafted basically in the first round.' The source assesses McCarthy as 'probably bad' and expects he will 'probably suck,' though acknowledges a small chance (one in 10) he could be good.

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NegativeRole7:12

The source expects McCarthy to receive 4–5 starts this season for the Giants, contingent on Jameis Winston's performance. If Winston plays well (as he did against the Lions last year), he stays in; if Winston underperforms, McCarthy gets 'half a season' to develop and either lead the Giants to a playoff run or position them for Arch Manning in the draft.

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Jalen Coker

NegativeInjury44:03

Coker suffered a quad strain and is listed as questionable; Rappaport reported it's not a serious injury and there's a chance he plays. His status impacts the tight end pecking order for the Panthers.

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Jalen McMillan

NegativeInjury1:50

Jalen McMillan started well but has suffered a neck injury, raising durability concerns and limiting his fantasy value.

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Jalon Daniels

NegativeProjection56:43

If Daniels starts for the Buccaneers against Green Bay as an undrafted free agent rookie, the Packers defense would have a strong chance to be the number one defense of the week due to expected big plays, sacks, fumbles, and interceptions.

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Jameis Winston

NegativeRole0:03

Winston remains the Giants' starting quarterback, but the source suggests he may not be performing well due to an unfocused offseason. The source references reports that Roger Sherman joked Winston was 'gallivanting and traveling and drinking' during the offseason rather than taking it seriously, which the source believes contributes to why 'he doesn't really look that good.' This context frames the Giants' acquisition of J.J. McCarthy as a hedge against Winston's performance.

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NegativeRole7:12

Winston is the Giants' starting quarterback with McCarthy as backup. His performance will determine McCarthy's playing time; if Winston plays well (like his performance against the Lions last year, where he threw touchdowns and ran effectively), he stays in the lineup.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeInjury0:11

Jaden Daniels has dislocated his elbow approximately three times this season, representing a significant injury concern that undermines his strong early-season performance and raises durability questions.

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NegativeInjury54:32

Daniels is expected to return soon, which will end the Marcus Mariota streaming window. He's currently out, making Mariota a two-week option.

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Jaylen Wright

PositiveSleeper20:06

Undervalued waiver wire target who may outperform Ollie Gordon later in the season; Wright out-snapped Gordon almost 2-to-1 over the final five weeks of last season and is described as potentially the most talented lead back on the Dolphins. Despite a foot stinger keeping him day-to-day, the source recommends targeting Wright for $5 or less on waivers while league-mates focus spending on Gordon, noting Wright's 4.3 forty-yard dash speed and big-play upside, though his 3.9 yards-per-carry career average and decision-making questions warrant caution.

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Jermaine Burton

NegativeBust1:45

Jermaine Burton is out of the league, representing a complete failure to establish an NFL career.

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Jonah Coleman

NegativeInjury29:54

Jonah Coleman was placed on injured reserve after being revealed to have a more serious injury than initially reported; the source criticizes the timing of the injury disclosure (Wednesday) and expresses frustration that Coleman is now unavailable, making him a cut candidate.

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Keaton Mitchell

PositiveSleeper26:55

Keaton Mitchell of the Chargers is 32% rostered on Yahoo and had 50 yards and a touchdown last week, looking as good or better than O'Marion Hampton in a much more even three-way split with Hampton and Kamani Vidal; he was banged up to start the season which may have limited his early field time, but could be healthier now and worth considering despite the Chargers backfield volatility.

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Keenan Allen

PositiveValue29:58

Keenan Allen of the Colts is the source's top receiver recommendation for Week 4 waiver wire adds, posting nine targets, six catches, and 63 yards with a touchdown through Week 3; he is running 70+ percent of routes per team drop back and is one of only three primary targets (alongside Downs and Tyler Warren) in the Colts' offense. The source recommends him as a desperation start against Washington, though notes he may face suspension due to a DUI charge. Allen is best suited for teams with injured players fighting for their playoff lives.

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Kendre Miller

PositiveBreakout43:26

Kendra Miller is highlighted as having more upside than Alvin Kamara in the Saints backfield if Travis Henry misses multiple weeks. The source suggests Miller has 'more juice' despite Kamara being the more experienced veteran, implying Miller has greater breakout potential.

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Kenyon Sadiq

PositiveRole40:01

Sadiq is leading the Jets at tight end in snaps and ran 25 routes in the last game; he scored a touchdown on a jet sweep type deal and is being used in the red zone. The source recommends grabbing him now to monitor usage, noting that if his snap share increases from 55% to 75%, he could be a huge hit at tight end, similar to the Dalton Kincaid upside scenario. He's the most athletically talented option on the Jets roster regardless of who else is playing.

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Keon Coleman

NegativeProjection1:16

Keon Coleman on the Bills is presented as a disappointing pick, with the source suggesting the Bills might have made two Super Bowls if they had drafted Ladd McConkey instead.

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Kimani Vidal

NegativeUsage27:02

Kamani Vidal is part of a three-way split in the Chargers backfield with Keaton Mitchell and O'Marion Hampton.

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Ladd McConkey

PositiveProjection1:22

Ladd McConkey is the key off-player for the Chargers but is currently injured, suggesting strong performance when healthy but durability concerns.

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Makai Lemon

NegativeMatchup30:25

Makai Lemon is mentioned alongside Dontavian Wicks as a potential waiver wire option to monitor in the Eagles game (Week 4), though the source does not provide a strong endorsement and suggests most receivers available on waivers are not worth rostering.

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Malachi Corley

NegativeBust1:40

Malachi Corley is out of the league, representing a complete failure to establish an NFL career.

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Malik Nabers

NegativeInjury0:54

Malik Nabers started strong but is now injured; the source notes that fantasy players probably don't want to roster him due to his injury status, suggesting reduced fantasy value.

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Marcus Mariota

PositiveProjection52:39

Mariota is playing Washington against the Colts defense in London. He played well against Seattle with three touchdown passes and added rushing value. The source ranks him slightly above Geno Smith and recommends him as a two-week streamer until Jayden Daniels returns, noting the Colts defense is still bad despite the Texans' performance.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

NegativeBust0:39

The source characterizes Marvin Harrison Jr. as probably one of the five worst receiver picks in NFL draft history, representing a significant bust from his first-overall selection expectations.

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Mason Taylor

NegativeInjury44:01

Mason Taylor is on injured reserve, which affects the Saints tight end depth chart and keeps Sadiq in the mix as a viable option.

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Michael Mayer

PositiveRole50:02

Mayer ran 78% of routes per team drop back for the Raiders this last week after Jack Beshear broke his forearm. The source notes the Raiders may run more two tight end sets with Mayer as their number one tight end and Bowers as their X receiver, making Mayer potentially useful despite scraping the bottom of the barrel at the position.

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Michael Penix Jr.

NegativeInjury1:01

Michael Penix Jr. has already suffered his third ACL tear, representing a severe durability concern despite showing some positive performance early in his career.

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Mike Washington Jr.

PositiveSleeper28:02

Mike Washington Jr. of the Raiders is recommended as a handcuff/stash player with upside and as the next option if Kamara, Gordon, Mitchell, and Etienne are all rostered; he had five carries for 54 yards and a touchdown, significantly outperforming Ashton Gentry who had 17 carries for only two more yards, and looks fantastic as a potential backup if Gentry's ankle injury worsens.

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PositiveSleeper29:25

In deeper leagues where Alvin Kamara and other running backs are rostered, Mike Washington of the Raiders is a recommended add; the source identifies him as a next-tier option for teams seeking depth at the position.

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Ollie Gordon II

NegativeValue20:06

Expected to command significant waiver wire spending despite limited production; the source projects Gordon will be the big spend with waiver money in most leagues, but cautions that his 40 yards and one touchdown in Week 4 may represent his typical weekly ceiling, suggesting he is overpriced relative to expected output.

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PositiveValue27:48

Ollie Gordon is selected as the preferred waiver wire option over Keaton Mitchell and Alvin Kamara as a running back fill-in, with the caveat that Travis Etienne could theoretically play this week.

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Omarion Hampton

NegativeUsage27:02

O'Marion Hampton is part of a three-way split in the Chargers backfield with Keaton Mitchell and Kamani Vidal, with Mitchell looking as good or better than Hampton in the split.

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Puka Nacua

NegativeInjury42:22

Nacua's status is uncertain; if he returns, Ferguson and Higbee's roles diminish. The source emphasizes that Nacua's availability is a key variable for Rams tight end and receiver production.

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Ricky Pearsall

NegativeRole1:05

Ricky Pearsall has barely played for the 49ers over three years, indicating limited offensive role and minimal fantasy relevance.

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Sam Darnold

PositiveProjection54:32

Darnold was the number two quarterback in fantasy this week with 379 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions. He's playing the Chargers, who are reeling. The source acknowledges the interceptions but still recommends him as a viable streamer option.

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Terrance Ferguson

NegativeInjury42:22

Ferguson suffered a nasty ankle injury and is dealing with a low-grade sprain. The source notes that the play before he got hurt, he was wide open for a 40-yard touchdown that Matthew Stafford missed. Ferguson's availability is uncertain, and if he doesn't play, Tyler Higbee becomes the primary option for the Rams.

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Travis Etienne

NegativeInjury26:22

Travis Etienne pulled up on his hamstring; Kellen Moore indicated he will have some time lost with a hamstring injury expected to sideline him for at least two to three weeks, probably longer.

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Tyler Higbee

PositiveRole42:22

Higbee got 11 targets, 8 catches, and 62 yards with a touchdown in the game where Ferguson got hurt. He becomes the primary tight end option for the Rams if Ferguson remains out or if Puka Nacua doesn't return.

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Xavier Worthy

NegativeRole0:58

Xavier Worthy on the Chiefs is characterized as a gadget player with limited impact, suggesting restricted offensive role and limited fantasy value.

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Zach Ertz

NegativeRole50:51

Ertz is back on the Eagles and was bizarrely productive last year despite knee injuries. The source notes this is worth mentioning but doesn't recommend adding him in fantasy.

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1:39My name is Danny Heifetz. Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck, and we are going over all the players
1:46you need to add after Week 3 entering Week 4 for the NFL season.
1:50We're going to get into all that, but first, the Giants have traded for nine.
1:54DK, Giants have sent a fifth for nine. J.J.
1:57McCarthy, who I've always loved, never disparaged, constantly believed in.
2:00I can't remember a single negative thing you've said about him.
2:04Not a one. And he's on the Giants now in exchange for a fifth-round pick, and this is probably the best trade
2:10any team's made all year, right, DK? I don't know about that, but I do think it is a relatively low-risk, high-upside type of deal.
2:18You know, we've seen teams turn draft-bust players into starters in the recent years, like Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, you know, guys
2:24like that where they just need a new change of scenery, and maybe like a new coach, maybe a new system, and
2:31things start to level out for them. Lower expectations, you know?
2:34So I think this is good for both sides.
2:37Boy, does it pay to be a friend of the Harbaugh's.
2:41I know, right? I feel like you play for those guys once, and you're employed for at least five years.
2:47You go 15-0 and win a national championship, then oh my god, yeah.
2:51Look, he's got a winning record in the NFL, too, I'll have you know.
2:55He's 6-4 as a starter. I'll have you know.
2:57It'll be entertaining. He's a perfect New York Giant.
3:00This will be him and Cam Scatterhue. New York Giant.
3:03What does that mean? He's a perfect New York Giant, and you know what I mean.
3:08What does that mean? You know what I mean.
3:11What do you mean? What do you mean he's a perfect Giant?
3:14There's going to be moments and flashes where you're going to be like, is J.J.
3:19McCarthy a thing? And 90% of the time, it'll be a disaster, but it'll make the remainder of the season much more entertaining for Giants fans.
3:27What's the point of this? Is the point like, we want to keep momentum going and maybe J.J.
3:32McCarthy's good? I also read reports that they're bringing him in as a backup.
3:37Like he's not going to compete with Jameis to start.
3:40Yeah, no. I mean, he's a backup. What's the point of this?
3:43Were you trading for a backup? I think the, there's probably two answers.
3:47You're trading for a backup in an already lost season.
3:50Well, there's two answers. It's that Jackson's not going to play and that they don't have a developmental quarterback on the roster,
3:57and so you kind of need to have one.
4:00And I think it's a mix of two things.
4:02Roger Sherman's been joking that Jameis Winston was kind of like doing World Cup promo for Fox and kind of just gallivanting
4:09and traveling and drinking and maybe not taking very seriously the offseason, which is why he doesn't really look that good, which I don't necessarily not believe.
4:17And the flip side is I actually think more teams should do this, which is, yeah, like you should buy the dip
4:24on quarterbacks that had top 10 picks. Like I am not under any delusions.
4:28Like J.J. McCarthy's probably never going to be a starter in the NFL again, like as a good NFL starter.
4:34Yeah, but that's already the expectation. And exactly. That's why he got him for a fifth round pick.
4:40And again, in a world where Sam Darnold won a Super Bowl, like Sam Darnold, who got a cup of coffee as
4:46the Panthers starter and then was a backup for the Niners for an entire year, then won 14 games back-to-back seasons with
4:53different teams, which had only been done by Tom Brady and Peyton Manning in the one of the Super Bowl.
4:59Geno Smith is with the Jets and looks good 10 years after the Jets ditched him.
5:04Anything is possible, clearly. So it's like, yeah, if the Giants had sent the third for J.J.
5:09McCarthy, I'd be like, that's steep. A fifth rounder for a guy that was a quarterback two years ago.
5:15And again, McCarthy's only played 10 games. Like I will say that he has sucked.
5:19I've been disgusted with him, but he's played 10 games.
5:22He's had a meniscus injury. He had the high ankle sprain.
5:26He had a concussion that was, I think there was a real one and a fake one, which they kept him out
5:32of the Seattle game because they were worried he was going to like end his career.
5:37And then Max Brosmer had the 26 to zero loss.
5:40But overall, I'm like, yeah, throw a dart for a fifth on a guy.
5:44Like how many times have we seen people be wrong about quarterbacks?
5:48Like it doesn't cost you anything. It's fine. Yeah.
5:51There's no downside to this, I feel like. I also think it's funny just from the Vikings point of view.
5:57This is like exactly what happened during the quarterback competition.
6:00It's like as soon as people start talking about JG McCarthy, having better practices, looking a little bit sharper, they name Kyler Murray, the starter.
6:07And Kyler Murray comes out here, plays pretty terribly in his first like full start.
6:12And the Vikings are like, okay, we got to trade JG McCarthy before we start, before people start talking.
6:18We're going to get ahead of this. To be clear, I'm not under any illusions.
6:22I understand like, I mean, Kevin Seifert. This is awesome Cope though.
6:26I like it. No, you're doing good. I'm like, yeah, sure.
6:29I'll get excited. I understand it's not going to work.
6:32Like Kevin Seifert, who covers the Vikings for his business.
6:35It might. It might. The Elias Sports Bureau had this poll that JG McCarthy is one of four first-run quarterbacks in the
6:42past 25 years who started 10 or fewer games to the team that drafted them.
6:46And the others are Paxton Lynch, Trey Lance, Johnny Menzel.
6:49So those are just like the worst quarterbacks drafted basically in the first round along with like what Tim Tebow and Jamarcus Russell.
6:56Yeah. McCarthy is probably bad. And the Giants, again, Brian Burns towards ACL.
7:00He had 16 and a half sacks for the Giants last year.
7:04Like the season's over. Like that's the short answer, Craig.
7:07The season's over for the Giants. I agree. How many games does he start this year?
7:12JJ McCarthy. Probably. Honestly, I would hope I would like him to get four.
7:16Half of the remaining games? Yeah. I'd like him to get four or five.
7:20I think it depends on competitive Jameis is. If Jameis Winston comes out and I'm going to throw out last week for
7:27Cam Ward and Jameis Winston, it was pouring rain.
7:30I don't want to think about that game too much.
7:33But if Jameis comes out and looks like he did against the Lions last year where he's catching touchdowns and like, you
7:39know, trucking defenders and running the end zone, keep Jameis playing.
7:43But yeah, if Jameis sucks, then I'm like, give JJ McCarthy half a season and either lead us to Arch Manning or I don't know.
7:50I don't mind giving him some run. He can look terrible for the Giants.
7:55Someone's going to do it. He might as well be like a quarterback.
7:58Like that's really what he needs. Exactly. Exactly. He needs reps.
8:02He needs to play football. And I don't, I don't love JJ McCarthy, but there were a lot of people who believed
8:08that he could succeed in exactly the kind of offense that's the meta of the NFL right now.
8:14Like he could do under center, drop back. Like, you know what I mean?
8:18Maybe at least he could be a paint by numbers quarterback.
8:22He'll probably suck, but it's a fifth round pick.
8:24How many fifth round is that the Giants hit in my entire life?
8:28Not that many. This is great. This is great.
8:31I'm really enjoying this. It's a fifth round pick.
8:34Who gives a shit? If it was a seventh, would you care?
8:37Um, I probably wouldn't give up a fifth for JJ McCarthy if I'm the New York Giants, but I don't know.
8:44The quarterbacks are Jameis Winston and Jake Haener. Who cares?
8:47I guess the short answer is like beggars can't be choosers.
8:50Yeah. But like, yeah, I don't know. I think this is a fine move.
8:54Yeah. I don't know why I would try to fifth round pick for a backup quarterback that I'm going to develop.
9:01And then I guess flip. I don't know. What if, what if he's good?
9:05What if there's a one in 10 chance that he's good?
9:08Um, I mean, you just said you, you mentioned Arch Manning's name.
9:12Like, are you out on Jackson Dart now? Like I would be focusing on Jackson Dart as the quarterback of my team
9:18and I wouldn't want to trade picks away for JJ McCarthy.
9:22Probably. It's not a huge deal. Again, it's a fifth round pick, but I'm still just like, eh, probably, probably just keep my picks.
9:29I love Dart with all my heart. And also he has finished very few of the games that he's played.
9:35I don't think it's the worst idea to be like, you know, exploring other options for free.
9:40So I don't mind it. I will say the other thing I want to say though, about this.
9:46Um, so if just kind of look at the 2024 NFL draft, you know, they say you need three years to evaluate
9:52a draft and we're about to end. Like, this is the third season.
9:56Can I just go like the 2024 draft is one kind of like a little like window into the whole season, but it is unbelievable.
10:04The snip snap experience of the 2024 draft. You have Caleb Williams went to the bears first, who obviously, you know, meme of the season.
10:11Jaden Daniels has gone to Washington, almost got them to the super bowl.
10:15And then now it's dislocated his elbow like three times.
10:18And it's like RG five Drake may for the Patriots just went to the super bowl.
10:23And then now is like the Carson Wentz of the season in 2026 alone.
10:27So far, none of those three have had a normal three-year stretch.
10:31Caleb went from terrible to great. Jaden went from great to kind of, this is a mess.
10:36Drake went from awesome, from bad to awesome to bad.
10:39But then you keep going. Marvin Harrison Jr. For the Cardinals is probably one of the five worst receiver picks maybe in the history of the league.
10:47If things keep going, Joe Alt for the Chargers leads all players in penalties.
10:52Great. Then hurt. Then bad. Yeah. Look was great.
10:54Then bad. Malik neighbors look great. Now hurt. And people who are from fantasy probably don't want to play Malik neighbors.
11:01He doesn't. He's not a percent. The Falcons took Michael Penix Jr.
11:04Who's already had the third ACL tear and looked good, but like is on his third ACL.
11:10The Bears drafted Roma Dunze. What a weird draft.
11:12Oh my gosh. Again, this was the fantasy football.
11:15This was the savior draft. This was the first draft ever.
11:18The first 14 picks were on offense. It was supposed to be a fantasy goldmine.
11:23You have the Vikings took J.G. McCarthy, who now is on a list with Johnny Menzel.
11:28Like you have the Jets took Olufushanu, who probably is the pick here.
11:32The Broncos. Like a solid pick. Broncos at Bo Nix.
11:35Maybe the best quarterback right now after Caleb Williams in this class.
11:38The Raiders took Brock Bowers, who is a football robot.
11:41But the Colts took Leotu Latu, who's been abysmal.
11:44But if you just go down at receiver even.
11:47Is he been abysmal? No. No, he's fine. He's just like fine.
11:50But the receivers. Brian Thomas, 1,400 yards as a rookie.
11:54And then now it's like probably cuttable in fantasy football for some people who hate him.
11:58Xavier Worthy on the Chiefs, who is like. I mean, a nobody.
12:02He's just like a gadget player. Xavier Worthy, yeah.
12:05Yeah. Ricky Persol, who has barely played for the 49ers over three years.
12:09Xavier Leggett, who is healthy but unplayable. Well, he was hurt last week.
12:13But unplayable for Carolina. You have Keon Coleman on the Bills.
12:16If the Bills had taken Ladd McConkie, would they have made two Super Bowls by now?
12:21Ladd McConkie, who is like the key on off player for the Chargers, but is hurt.
12:26Jalen Polk for the Patriots. The 37th pick in the draft.
12:29Already retired. Aidy Mitchell is already on the Jets.
12:32Malachi Corley is out of the league. Jermaine Burton's out of the league.
12:36You just go down. Jalen McMillan, it was good.
12:38And then now neck injury. Broke is hurt. Like none of these players are having any kind of impact this season at receiver.
12:45And there were like 10 taken. There were eight taken in the first 37 days.
12:50Well, you could argue that the best receiver of the 2024 draft class was undrafted.
12:54And his name is Jalen Coker. Yes. Who has...
12:57I saw a stat that Jalen Coker this year has more yards than Malik Nabors, Marvin Harrison, and Roman Dudesay combined.
13:03This is a really weird draft. Yeah. The NFL is hard.
13:07So many of these things are related to injury too.
13:10I was just looking like the Brock Bowers thing.
13:13He stands out as probably one of the outliers for by far best values in this class.
13:18But he also has missed huge chunks of time.
13:20Yeah. The injury thing is tough. Yeah. I just...
13:23It just... That's just when I look at the McCarthy trade, I'm like, all of these guys have basically been incredibly disappointing
13:30with the exception of the defensive players who the entire league passed on for the first 14 picks.
13:35And Bowers. And Bonex. So funny world we're living in.
13:38Hmm. Okay. Craig, I'm glad you love the trade as much as I do.
13:43I just loved your video being like, yeah, this makes sense.
13:46Yeah. I'm into it. We're going to see it.
13:49Top 10 picks. So, you know, like I'm into it.
13:52I thought it was funny. Well, he's bad. I thought it was funny.
13:56Yeah. You hate James McCarthy. He's fucking terrible. I do.
13:59But there's a humility to it. It's like, I could be wrong.
14:02Did you guys think Sam... When Sam... One year ago, or I guess 14 months ago, we were really concerned about the
14:09Seahawks swapping out Darnold for Geno Smith. I mean, that was after he won 14 games.
14:14Think about like the year before when he was like the backup on San Francisco.
14:18You know? Now I know. Things change fast. That's all.
14:21Things do change fast. But like, I guess any time a bust gets traded, you can just say Sam Darnold's name and
14:28then you can basically justify every trade because of Sam Darnold?
14:31Yeah. Well, I'm saying it's a fifth round pick.
14:34Totally. Yeah, I know. In exchange for a dart, for a throw at the dart board, a quarterback, I'm like, that is
14:41probably what the Giants should be doing. Because if Jackson Dart comes back and gets hurt, they're fucked.
14:46All right. I don't want to hear any Drew Aller shit then.
14:50When the Steelers... When I'm into Drew Aller, I don't want to hear any shit.
14:54No, I'm not. I make fun of you because it's funny.
14:58But in reality, that's exactly what teams should be doing.
15:01Just because you have Aaron Rodgers doesn't mean you shouldn't be taking shots at a quarterback.
15:06That's exactly what they should be doing. All right, great.
15:09Okay. Let's get to waivers. I'll root for McCarthy if you root for Aller.
15:13That should be the deal. Deal. Who do I get to root for?
15:17We'll be supportive of each other. I like that, actually.
15:20You won the Super Bowl. You're fine. You're fine.
15:22At least happy title defense of all time. Go sit by yourself.
15:26So, okay. So, we're going to go through waivers.
15:29Again, we're going to go position by position. We're just going to give our top pick at the position.
15:35Only one of us can get each player. So, we'll do a trivia tiebreaker.
15:39It's not that complicated. You'll figure it out as we go.
15:42Email us. Trivia questions. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com.
15:45I like the ones people have been sending. So, keep sending them.
15:49We're doing less of the how many atoms are in the universe and more things that we've been talking about on the show.
15:55So, thank you for those. Without further ado, DK.
15:58Yo. So, obviously, the big running back news this week is Devon Achane for the Miami Dolphins towards ACL.
16:04And he's out for the season. Yeah. Which is just, I would say, a kick in the nuts to the Dolphins.
16:10But I feel like this season had already been gelded.
16:13So, I don't even know what it is. Who is your number one running back on waivers after week three entering week four?
16:20I think because of the injury to HN, it's between.
16:23And there was also, by the way, an injury to Brees Hall, who was week to week.
16:28He had a quad injury, I believe. And he left the game.
16:32And so, to me, it's between two guys. Braylon Allen of the Jets and Ollie Gordon of the Dolphins.
16:38I think I'm going to give Braylon Allen the edge just because he feels like the clear-cut actual backup.
16:44And I don't exactly know how the rotation will go with the Dolphins with Ollie Gordon versus Jalen Wright.
16:49Jalen Wright was hurt in this last game. He might be back soon.
16:53Braylon Allen, I think, is the clear-cut next man up.
16:56And he plays for what looks like a much better offense.
17:00And an offense that can get him into the red zone more often.
17:04So, I'm going with Braylon Allen of the Jets.
17:06Craig? This feels like the first true week of waivers in the fantasy season because there are finally guys that you can
17:13add that might be on your team for the rest of the season.
17:17And these are real running backs that you can slot into your starting lineup, I think.
17:22I mean, look, Brees is going to be out a little bit.
17:25Ollie Gordon and Jalen Wright, the two Dolphins running backs, are going to be there for the rest of the season.
17:32So, you have to factor that in of, like, you might only get two weeks of Braylon Allen.
17:37We should also mention Travis Achan, formerly ETN, pulled his hamstring.
17:41It looks like he's going to miss some time.
17:43So, Alvin Kamara and Kendra Miller, I would say, also mix into this.
17:47I think if you're looking short-term, I would take Braylon Allen.
17:51If you're looking long-term, I would take Ollie Gordon.
17:53So, for the purposes of this exercise, like, if I want a guy next week, I would take Braylon Allen, who I
18:00think is the best player on this list. I think Braylon Allen's still really young, one of, like, the youngest guys to
18:07come into the league a few years ago. Kind of, like, varying opinions on him.
18:11I've always thought he was good. I've always thought he looks good.
18:15He's big, strong, has, like, a ton of burst.
18:18And he scored last week. I would go with Braylon.
18:21The Jets have the Bears next week, too. Yeah.
18:23I had Braylon Allen as well for all those reasons.
18:26And, again, if you, like, really want to replace a guy for the whole season, you could get Ollie Gordon for the Dolphins.
18:33Like, if you had HN. The way I look at it is, yeah.
18:37Like, yeah. I had Braylon Allen, too. For the same reason.
18:41I just, Braylon Allen's a better player, and he's on a better team.
18:44And the Jets, I don't know. Just the Dolphins are the worst team in the league.
18:49I know. It's just tough to have a running back on the worst team in the league.
18:54A backup, no less. I remember. Do you guys remember?
18:57I don't know how old you were the first time you started going to the supermarket, like, alone to shop for yourself.
19:04And I remember, like, you know, you're tempted by, like, those, like, supermarket pies.
19:08And you're like, wow. I would love to just buy a pie from the bakery section.
19:13And then when I'm older, I'm like, I don't need a lot of, like, a bad pie.
19:18Like, that's probably bad for me. And Ollie Gordon, like, you're getting a bigger share of, like, the worst pie in the NFL.
19:25I'm like, it's a disgusting pie. And Devon HN had all the, like, literally the biggest.
19:30Only Jonathan Taylor is playing more of running backs than Devon HN.
19:34And he's, like, one of the most talented running backs in the NFL.
19:38And he was, like, fine. HN was like a borderline starter.
19:41And now you're going to split the work between two people who are worse.
19:45So the odds that you actually want to put Ollie Gordon or Jalen Wright in your lineup each week is, like, to
19:52me so low that I'm like, I'd rather kind of just do short term and figure it out.
19:57I do want to throw out, and DK, I want to ask you about Jalen Wright because I know that you scouted him and have thoughts on him.
20:06I will say, I think everyone in your league is going to go after Ollie Gordon.
20:11He'll be the big spend with your waiver money.
20:13Jalen Wright, who is listed, he was day-to-day last week with, like, a foot stinger thing.
20:18He didn't play. They keep saying he's day-to-day. At the end of last season, Jalen Wright out snapped Ollie Gordon almost 2-1
20:25over the final five weeks of the season. It might be a better player.
20:29And so if Jalen Wright, is there a chance Jalen Wright is actually the sneaky ad where while everyone's spending all their
20:36money on Ollie Gordon, you should actually go after Jalen Wright?
20:39Even if it takes an extra week for him to come back because he could actually be the most talented lead back on the Dolphins?
20:47I think there is a chance, yeah. I mean, he was a guy coming out of college super fast.
20:53I think he ran like a 4-3 or something like that.
20:56Big play type of guy with question marks around his vision and sort of decision making.
21:01He came out of Tennessee. So, you know, that offense in Tennessee is all about creating space and spreading the field out as much as possible.
21:09It's like the receivers are lining up almost on the sideline type of deal.
21:13So there was a lot of questions whether it would translate to the NFL in terms of like what he could be.
21:20I think it's still the jury's still out on him.
21:23I don't know if he's necessarily been super impressive.
21:25He has a 3.9 yards per carry average in his career.
21:29But I think it's certainly worth, you know, it is.
21:32I think you're absolutely right. People are going to be focused in on Ollie Gordon and Wright could end up surpassing him
21:38later in the season as we go along. I just think you could probably get Jalen Wright for like $5.
21:44And I think it's probably worth doing that. I hope he can get him for free.
21:49Sure. But if you want, you know, sometimes you got to spend a couple extra bucks to secure and ensure that you get them.
21:56But I do think you could get him for single digits because I think Ollie Gordon's going to go for a lot.
22:03Yeah. Yeah. And I wouldn't. There's not upside to me.
22:06It's like, again, he, Ollie Gordon had 40 yards in a touchdown.
22:10I'm like, that'll, that'll be it most weeks. Okay.
22:13I think it's time, Greg. I think it's time as well for the Braylon Allen showdown time.
22:18Ooh. All right. This question is from Matt. Matt E.
22:21And Bone. Breakfast today was a breakfast sandwich, an over medium egg on a toasted Asiago cheese bagel with cheddar cheese and
22:27butter and two cups of coffee with creamer. Ooh.
22:30Wow. Nice. Sounds good. I heard your conversation about lawyers on billboards at the start of this morning show.
22:36I work in sales in the billboard advertising industry.
22:39Ooh. According to the out of home advertising association of America.
22:42Oh, a, a, a, a, a. I couldn't believe this was real.
22:46Oh, yeah. There is an Orlando. Ah, Orlando. There's an Orlando based in personal injury law firm, Morgan and Morgan, who has
22:52been the number one spender in out of home advertising through the first two quarters of 2026.
22:57In fact, legal services is the number one industry in all out of home advertising through Q2 of 2026, surpassing hospitals, college and universities, restaurants and banks.
23:06Which kind of blew my mind. And in 2025, Morgan and Morgan was the number two spender in out of home advertising, second only to Apple.
23:13What? Wow. This injury law firm in Orlando was second and Apple was first, which just blew my mind.
23:19Yeah. So Matt's question is how much money did Morgan and Morgan spend on out of home advertising in 2025?
23:25Are they a national brand or just in Florida?
23:28I think they must be national. I don't know.
23:31So it's a spend all over the country, not just in Orlando or something.
23:35It has to be. Okay. If it's like Apple one.
23:38And he says, because they have context on what he means.
23:41Out of home advertising includes traditional print billboards, wall murals, digital billboards, transit advertising, buses, trains, subways, airports, street furniture, bus shelters, kiosks.
23:48Park benches. Okay. Hmm. How much money did they spend last year on ads?
23:52I have no clue how much this shit costs.
23:55Me too. Because it's like a commercial costs a lot.
23:58But a billboard. God knows. Okay. You guys ready?
24:01Sure. Three, two, one. 25 million. Three million. Okay.
24:04We're different. I said 100 million. 100 million? This Morgan and Morgan place must be fucking massive.
24:09It was like Apple. I just heard Apple. I went low just for my, to defend myself here.
24:14I went low because I think, I don't think places spend a ton of money on like fucking billboards and bus shelters and things.
24:22So the real answer is it is. Oh my God.
24:25To the dollar. What? 58 million, 201,720. How are they spending?
24:28This place must be huge. I don't. I don't.
24:31Morgan and Morgan, they're spending almost $60 million on advertising.
24:34Because I guess that maybe they're in like big cities, billboards in very, you know, concentrated metropolitan areas.
24:39And it costs a lot of money to get a billboard in like New York and Chicago and LA.
24:45I don't know. I don't know. That kind of blows my mind.
24:48So I get the dub. So what did you say?
24:5225. Yeah, you win. Yeah. And then I think I'm second and DK's third.
24:56All right. Okay. So who do you want? You want Braylon Allen?
24:59I know. It's funny. It's like, yeah, I will take Braylon Allen.
25:03Because it's one of those you're like, oh, you want Ollie Gordon for the rest of the year.
25:08It's like, isn't having Ollie Gordon kind of like fucking up your roster?
25:12Well, I don't know. I mean, running back is dire, man.
25:16If you have, if you have like Travion Henderson or RJ Harvey or David Montgomery, like there's a lot of RB2s that
25:22you thought were going to be a thing that aren't.
25:25And maybe you would start Ollie Gordon over like David Montgomery.
25:29I know. But then you're watching the Dolphins hoping they score and you're like, oh my God, they're trying to lose.
25:35It's not for the players. Yeah. But it's yeah.
25:38Fair enough. I think I would take again, if you need a quarter, if you have a Chan and you actually want
25:45to play her for the rest of the season, you could take Ollie Gordon.
25:49I guess. I just feel like we've seen this movie.
25:52It sucks. Yeah. But maybe it's crazy, but I part of this is really tricky because we don't have an update yet.
25:58So there's Devon HN of the Dolphins and then Travis HN on the Saints.
26:03And we don't have an update yet on how long he's out.
26:06If Travis HN is also like out multiple weeks, I would look really hard at Alvin Kamara or Kendra Miller for the Saints.
26:13Alvin Kamara is probably going to play more because he's a legend and just more experienced.
26:18But Kendra Miller probably has more juice because Kamara is kind of washed.
26:22But yeah, Travis HN pulled up on his hamstring and I mean, the Saints have run the most plays this season.
26:28The Saints have 222 plays, which is 60 more plays than Tennessee.
26:32Like the Saints have already basically played a full game more than the Titans through three weeks.
26:37So I'm like, damn, like that. Like if you're talking about Kamara at that point, like that alone is enough for me.
26:44Like we were talking about touches, but man, like that is a huge disparity.
26:48So if you're looking at it like a one or two week stop gap, I would go with the Saints running back.
26:55Dare I mention Keaton Mitchell of the Los Angeles Chargers, who's 32% rostered on Yahoo.
26:59He had 50 yards in a touchdown last week.
27:02Kind of just looks as good or better than O'Marion Hampton.
27:05And the split was just much more even. It was basically like a three-way split between Hampton Mitchell and Kamani Vidal.
27:12And I'm like, I don't know. I think Keaton Mitchell was banged up to start the season.
27:17I think that could have played a role in why he wasn't on the field as much.
27:22Maybe now he's a little healthier. I know it's the Chargers, but Keaton Mitchell.
27:26What do you think? I mean, if you want to go through that hell of trying to figure out whether to start
27:33him as a Chargers running back, I do think he is someone to consider.
27:37It's just going to be probably a little frustrating.
27:40But if you're desperate. We're comparing him to like Calvin Kamara, Olly Gordon.
27:44I don't know. Keaton Mitchell's talented and young. I don't mind it at all.
27:48Who did you choose officially? I think Olly Gordon's the next.
27:51I guess I'll take Olly Gordon. We don't know.
27:54Travis HN in theory could play this week. And then I'll take Kamara.
27:58Definitely. I think the other. I think Keaton Mitchell's a good one.
28:02Mike Washington for the Raiders or Brian Robinson for the Falcons.
28:05Just guys that have upside as handcuffs only stash type players.
28:08So those would be the main ones. I think HN's out.
28:12Kellen Moore said he's going to have some time lost.
28:15Yeah. He has like a hamstring injury. So it's like at least two to three weeks, probably longer.
28:20I think, yeah, I think the only other person I want to say is if those people are all rostered, I want
28:27the next version of that is Mike Washington Jr.
28:30for the Raiders, which he had one big play for a touchdown.
28:33So Mike Washington had five carries for 54 yards in a touchdown.
28:37Ashton Gentry had 17 more carries, only got two more yards.
28:40Again, it was. Gentry's interesting, man. We're like sometimes like he just does nothing and it just feels like he can't get
28:47any wiggle and he'll just he's like getting two yards to carry.
28:50And then other times he looks like the best running back in the league.
28:55So I think this one's simple. I think Ashton Gentry, obviously he had the ankle injury in August.
29:00I think Ashton Gentry just tweaked his ankle at the end of week two.
29:04And his people are it's under the radar. And I think they're downplaying the injury.
29:09But I just don't think Ashton Gentry is healthy right now.
29:12So he could improve. But I think there's a reason you don't see him having a ton of juice and not making
29:19a huge impact in that Saints game. And so if anything else happens to his ankle, Mike Washington Jr.
29:25looks fantastic. So that is probably the next version of this player on this episode is if you're in a deeper league
29:31and you're like Kamara's rostered, all these people are rostered, then I would go get Mike Washington for the Raiders because yeah.
29:38And then Austin Eckler signed with Washington, which I don't know you should add him, but I did want to just mention Eckler is back in the NFL.
29:46Yep. Coming off the Achilles tear, right? Yes. Would you guys cut Jonah Coleman for the last week we had to talk about Jonah Coleman.
29:54And then it turns out he was more injured than J.K.
29:57Dobbins at R.J. Harvey, which is just insane. And he's on injury reserve now.
30:02So I love that we've heard about his injury on Wednesday.
30:05That's super helpful. It's I would cut you on.
30:08Yeah. Yeah. It's so fucking annoying that he's on injury reserve.
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31:08Okay. Receivers. Not as exciting at receiver this week.
31:11It's a little down in the dumps. DK, who is your number one receiver you'd had after week three entering week four?
31:18I think I'm going with Keenan Allen for the Colts.
31:21He had nine targets, six catches, 63 yards and a touchdown.
31:24He's running a bunch of routes, 70 plus percent routes per team drop back this year.
31:29And the target rate on the on the Colts so far is basically just concentrated between him, Downs and Tyler Warren.
31:35So not a super sexy ad. And he also might be suspended at some point because of this drunk driving charge that he got.
31:42DUI. But I think for now, if I was going to start somebody next week on this group, it would probably be Keenan Allen.
31:50None of these guys are worth starting on your team.
31:53And I would even argue not many of them are even worth rostering.
31:57Like this is like last guy in your lineup type of stuff, I would say.
32:01Like, I'm curious to see what happens tonight in the Eagles game.
32:05Dontavian Wicks or Makai Lemon. But yeah, Keenan Allen, sure.
32:08But I don't really have I don't think any of these guys are worth dropping somebody on on your team for, I would say.
32:15I agree. It's a desperation thing. It's like if you have a bunch of injured players and you're just absolutely fighting for your life.
32:22Like, yeah, I would probably do Keenan Allen, too, just because they're playing Washington.
32:27The game's in London. But if you're like it's for this week thing.
32:31Yeah, I mean, I Keenan Allen's probably got a better chance against the Washington defense.
32:35You know, that's like Wanda Robinson. I feel like his people are being cut because he has sucked and he had a bunch of targets.
32:43But that game was against the Giants and in the rain.
32:46And yeah, it sucks. I agree with Craig that Dontavian Wicks from if he's around.
32:51We'll see. We're recording this before Monday to football, but he's probably one.
32:55And even 80 Mitchell for the Jets. If he's around, it's like he's a good player in theory.
33:00Get separation. The Jets offense looks good. But the problem is 80 Mitchell.
33:04Like he has a finger injury. But his whole hand was taped.
33:08And the problem is he already kind of has issues with the drops.
33:12Right. He was already kind of shaky on catching the football.
33:15I know. And now it's like a big club for a hand.
33:18And I'm like, just like he's going to be like Buster from Arrested Development just swatting the football.
33:24Like, I'm a monster. And I'm like, yeah. So it's weird that he's going to be white.
33:29Get out. Lucille. The question is, what about the Dolphins guys?
33:32Malik Washington and Chris Bell. Chris Bell, I'm interested in.
33:35And I think might be worth a speculative ad.
33:38If you're just like, screw it. I want upside on the end of my roster.
33:43And I'll wait all year. And maybe it'll work out.
33:46Chris Bell is just like big, fast, coming back from an injury.
33:49Caleb Douglas, the other rookie receiver for the Dolphins, is out.
33:53Chris Bell kind of looked good. Honestly, should have had a bigger day.
33:57He had 67 yards this week. But there was like two plays where he could have got a touchdown that were missed.
34:03Again, Dolphins. Do you really want to be attached to the Dolphins?
34:07But I don't mind Chris Bell. I'm actually going to change my answer to Chris Bell.
34:12And here's why. I think if you like, gun to my head, it was more points next week in fantasy football.
34:18It's probably Keenan Allen. We're talking about season-long upside.
34:21Chris Bell coming into the draft out of Louisville was basically the A.J.
34:25Brown clone. And people were looking at Chris Bell like, oh my God.
34:29He's like this huge, powerful, fast, explosive athlete, physical at the catch point.
34:33And then he tore his ACL in December. And I think we were all a little caught off guard that this college
34:39player was going to basically rehab his ACL, miss a lot of time in training camp, and then start for the Dolphins.
34:46But the fact he's even playing right now speaks to his incredible recovery.
34:50And then he looks good in week three. Like that is obviously not normal for a rookie to tear his ACL in
34:57December and then like look good the first three weeks of the season.
35:01So part of me is just thinking like talent upside.
35:04The same reason I don't love Ollie Gordon as a big plotting running back on a shitty team.
35:09Chris Bell's probably going to get a lot of garbage time and they're going to try to get like, honestly, the Dolphins
35:16best offense is probably going to be yards after the catch for Chris Bell.
35:20So fuck it. Like it kind of wanted to bet on talent.
35:24I'll just do Chris Bell. There's a couple new reports on wide receiver injuries that we should mention that Ian Rappaport is tweeting about right now.
35:31Justin Jefferson, ankle sprain, avoided anything long-term, chance he plays Sunday.
35:35And then Mike Evans apparently is considered only day-to-day with a rib strain.
35:39So, well, that's good. Yeah. Mike Evans, I feel like is the kind of guy that we'd find out after this season.
35:45His organs were obliterated. Evans is going to be, he's going to leave every single game early this year, but he's also
35:52still going to put up over a thousand yards.
35:55It is. Yeah. When I like him versus Devante Adams, there's such different types of old receivers because Devante still looks like totally fine to me.
36:03Every time I watch Mike Evans, I'm like, I think his legs are going to fall off.
36:08Yeah. And yet he's great and he'll like catch a touchdown and look awesome.
36:12Dude, his touchdown on Sunday was insanely nice. Just the late hands.
36:16Nonchalant. Just let it fall in his lap. Such a veteran move.
36:19Yeah. But I'm always like, my God, I'm worried that his knee is going to snap in half on every play.
36:26Other name I'll throw out just if you're in a really deep league is Brandon Cooks.
36:30I think we'll play for the Niners at some point this year.
36:34And if you're in a very deep league, but that's if you're really struggling, but okay.
36:39There's no Kanata Mumfield love happening here right now for the Rams.
36:43You're going to get tested for that? The Kanata Mumfield?
36:46Okay. Kobe Myers for the Jags. I don't know.
36:48There's a few other guys that are like really risky, but it's potential there.
36:53Kobe Myers. He should pay for a big billboard.
36:55Kobe and Myers. They spent $58 million on billboards in LA.
36:59See him every time I go there. All right, Craig, is it time?
37:03It's time. I got Keenan Allen, man. Fantasy vampire.
37:05Are we doing him or doing Chris Bell? I'm taking Chris Bell.
37:09Because I'm just thinking of Keenan Allen. DK's taking Keenan.
37:12I'm taking Chris Bell. All right. Over the course of the whole season, like the odds that one of them is a difference maker.
37:19Keenan Allen is like, you know, you're surviving and Chris Bell has at least a chance for you to be thriving.
37:26Yeah. All right. Then it's time for the Chris Bell Showdown Time.
37:29Bring out a bell instead of a dog. Bring the bell for Chris.
37:33Yeah. This question's from Eli. Eli. Breakfast is a peanut butter and jelly on toast and a double, double coffee.
37:39I don't know what a double, double coffee is.
37:42Interesting. Double espresso? Is that a brand? Double espresso, double cream?
37:45I don't know. Double, double coffee. Oh, it's a coffee brand.
37:49Oh. It's a famous Canadian. Oh, it's from Tim Hortons?
37:52It's a Tim Hortons order. Famous Canadian coffee order, traditionally brewed with two portions of cream and two portions of sugar.
37:58Love it. Cool. Double, right. Double, double. Makes sense now.
38:01Okay. Eli's, oh no, PBJ on toast. How do you feel about peanut butter and jelly on toast?
38:06Sure. Yeah, why not? Okay. Because the peanut butter, if it heats up, it kind of gets melt, whatever.
38:12Eli says, my question is related to Tuesday's episode when Danny Kelly brought up the band Poison, and then you guys talked
38:19about Brett Michaels' dating show, Rock of Love. Right.
38:22And in one of our challenges, Brett had the ladies play in a four-on-four tackle football mud bowl.
38:27As he just ogled them from the sideline. Nope.
38:30Not on the sideline, DK. Oh, he got in there.
38:33Brett Michaels played quarterback for both teams. Boom 42!
38:36He was Flacco out there. Just a little bit longer.
38:39Mercenary. Jonathan. Hot route! And Brett Michaels, while his throwing mechanics needed some work, Brett threw a catchable ball.
38:44Oh. Okay. Brett also rocked a Steelers hat, so shout out to Craig for knowing that Brett Michaels was a Steelers fan.
38:51And shout out to Jess for winning MVP in this solo date with Brett.
38:55So Eli's trivia question. How many total touchdowns are scored in the Brett Michaels annual mud bowl game?
39:01Holy crap. Wow. Wait, is this from one of the seasons or what?
39:05Is this just a random game? I think it was one episode.
39:08I think he might have made up annual. It might have just been a one season.
39:13Yeah. How many seasons did the show even air?
39:16I don't know. I don't know. Good question. Three or four?
39:19I'm not sure. Five? Three seasons. Okay. So the question is how many total touchdowns happened in the total- In the single mud bowl that took place.
39:27In the one. The four-on-four football game. It was four-on-four and he was the quarterback.
39:32Okay. This is a great question. What do you guys think?
39:35I'm going to Google. Are Brett Michaels and Jeff still together?
39:39No. Ah. Huge shot. I guess that's why there were two more seasons of the show.
39:43Yeah. Yeah. All right. Whatever. I have an answer.
39:46How many touchdowns are scored in this game? Yeah.
39:49Three, two, one. Four. Eleven. I said five. Fuck.
39:52Oh, no. That's not true because I wrote it down.
39:55My answer was six. Okay. Okay. It's got to be low then.
39:58Hopefully. The answer is five. Ooh. Oh, you guys.
40:01So it's a tie. We have to go into a showdown tiebreaker.
40:05Well, Heifetz picked someone else than me, so we can just tie for first, I guess.
40:09Well, that's actually true. We could do for trivia purposes.
40:12For trivia purposes, we need a tiebreaker. All right.
40:15It's funny you say that. I actually do have another question.
40:19Okay. Do we just do another question right here?
40:21Yeah, but let's make it quick. Is it double or nothing?
40:25Sure. What do I get second if I lose this though?
40:28Do I just sit here and spectate? Go sit by yourself.
40:31We're talking. Craig, Craig. Actually, Craig's going to be pissed.
40:34Yeah, actually, Craig. Yeah, you don't get to this.
40:37Go watch Drew Allar, whatever highlights. This one's from Brian.
40:40Okay. Brian's breakfast. Sausage egg and cheese on an English muffin with chipotle mayo.
40:44Homemade yogurt with honey. Homemade? Wow. I'm glad Craig's not doing this one.
40:48Lauren Michaels holds the record for primetime Emmy Award nominations at 112.
40:52112 Emmy nominations for Lauren. How many times has Lauren won an Emmy of those 112 nominations?
40:57How many did Lauren win? No idea. Okay. Three, two, one.
41:00Five. Two. I talk. I wrote down two before.
41:03Okay. I wasn't really thinking about the game. I just could assume because he's asking it's low.
41:08Yeah. And I was wrong. The answer is 24.
41:11All right. Go, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Lauren. Disrespect Lauren like that.
41:15I just thought because he's asking you. I don't know.
41:18I overthink it. It does. It never wins. But yeah.
41:21Yeah. That's I was like, I just felt like, well, if it's zero, I would have heard this and one, I would have heard this.
41:28But I bet. Oh, they do. I don't know.
41:31Whatever, man. I overthought it. So DK. All right.
41:34I'll go. I'll I'll go with Keenan Allen and you guys then can.
41:38I'm taking. Like he's like the Kirkland ran Josh downs for my if the Dolphins sucked.
41:42Okay. Tight end. DK is your number one tight end dad.
41:46Kenyon Sadiq for the jets. The greatest tight end athlete we've ever seen.
41:50And guess what? It seems to be helping because he made an incredible touchdown in this game.
41:55He's now leading the jets and snaps at the tight end position.
41:58He ran 25 routes in this last game. I don't know.
42:02It just feels like he's coming on and he also had a touchdown last week on a, like a jet sweep type deal.
42:09So they're using him in the red zone. I don't know.
42:12Now's the time. I think now's the time to grab him and see how the usage goes.
42:17Cause right now he's not playing like a ton.
42:20He's 55% snaps. If that increases to 75%, it's kind of like the same deal with Dalton Kincaid.
42:25If he just plays a little bit more, he could be a huge hit at tight end.
42:31I agree. It's it's Sadiq. I mean, it's tight end.
42:34You're really, you're really scraping the bottom. Like I'm not adding Mike is sick.
42:38No, I'm not playing that game. Yeah. There's like the Rams tight ends.
42:42I, Terrence Ferguson, I would have recommended, but he seems like he's got a nasty ankle injury.
42:47It's so annoying that he sprains his ankle. And then Tyler Higby in that game gets 11 targets, eight catches, 62 yards in a touchdown.
42:54Or how about this? For that even more annoying the play before he hurt his ankle.
42:59He was wide open for a 40 yard touchdown.
43:02That Stafford missed. Just didn't see it, which never happens.
43:05Yeah. And again, it's like the first play of the game.
43:08It's whackable, but at least the, it's so fucking stupid.
43:11I, yeah. So Ferguson, if he plays, but you need Puka to not play.
43:16If Puka comes back at any point, then anyway, it's so annoying.
43:19So we're good on Sadiq. Yeah. It's Sadiq. But again, it's because AD Mitchell was out.
43:24So it's like, I think the answer is the truth is which of these guys is the number two receiver in their offense.
43:31So it's like Garrett Wilson. And then AD Mitchell's out.
43:34So it's Sadiq. If Puka is out, then it's like Ferguson and Ferguson gets hurt.
43:39It's Higby. The question I have is, is the answer Darren Waller for the Panthers?
43:43Cause it's Tedderro and McMillan. And now Jalen Coker's hurt.
43:46And we don't, I don't think, I believe we still don't have an update, but it looked not great.
43:52Right. We don't have an injury update, but part of me just wonders if the answer is Darren Waller is just the number two.
43:59Oh no, here we go. We just did. Yeah.
44:02So the Coker is question is a quad strain.
44:05Part of me is like Bryce young. If you ranked every tight, tight end by how much does their quarterback look to them when they're scrambling?
44:13I swear to God that like Darren Waller's third behind Kelsey and Brock Bowers, like Bryce Young's looking for Waller every time.
44:19But I do think he's just one of those guys that discourse touchdowns too.
44:24I know. And it's kind of like the game at tight end, but yeah.
44:28Rappaport reported that he Coker's questionable. There's a chance he plays.
44:31It's not a serious injury. It's a minor quad strain.
44:34So maybe he's out of the max. So I guess it's Sadiq.
44:38I guess Fergus got Ferguson's well here. Yeah. So Sadiq and Waller.
44:41And then Ferguson. To be honest, even if like 80 Mitchell's playing and Mason Taylor's on IR, I still kind of like
44:48Sadiq in the mix here as just like an athlete.
44:51Like it's, I feel like it's Garrett Wilson and then he's the most athletic, talented person of the rest, no matter who's playing for the jets.
44:59I'll probably go with Sadiq. Yeah, I'll go with Sadiq.
45:02All right. Fuck it. That means it's time for the Kenyan Sadiq.
45:06This is fun. Showdown time. It's fun to have a little buzzy tight end like this.
45:10It's first round pick. Yeah. I might. It's from David.
45:13I need tight end help in my ringer, in the ringer league.
45:17So I might go after Sadiq. Breakfast is two bacon and Gouda egg bites and some dried mango strips.
45:23And then one hour later, I do two air fried sweet potatoes.
45:27Okay. This is just kidding. That's. Oh, I was going to say.
45:30No, he's joking. That guy was a psycho. He says.
45:33Yeah. I'm like two. With it too sweet. Two sweet potatoes.
45:36Last week. You have no idea how much food two potatoes is.
45:40That guy was going to eat a potato with a fork and a knife.
45:44It'll take you an hour. It says Phil for a week.
45:48That one was from Dwayne. Dwayne from Los Angeles.
45:50Probably the rock. All right. So David writes the rock fat bear week is currently in season.
45:56Oh yeah. Excuse me. Fat bear fat bear week.
45:58Okay. The cat, my peninsula or whatever. Goddamn right.
46:01DK. I used to watch those live. You can watch them live.
46:05I don't know what that bear week is. It's these bears in Alaska, right on a river and they're just sitting out
46:11in the river and they have webcams set up, Craig.
46:14So you can just turn on a webcam and watch these pairs.
46:18They're streaming. They have a Twitch stream. The original stream pun intended.
46:22Yeah. Um, it's pretty fun actually. And then they, I think they determine who the fattest bear of them all is.
46:28Right. Yeah. They get, and you vote have a tournament.
46:31Yeah. Everyone votes on which bear has like, they all gain the most weight and then everyone, the internet votes and who's the fattest bear.
46:39Okay. So it's just great. You got to look through past winners.
46:42It's great. It's like American Idol for nature. It's fantastic.
46:45So anyway, so David writes, uh, last year's winner chunk junk.
46:49He's currently still in the running. According to this article, he found there was one live stream where chunk was fishing and
46:55a 45 salmon in 10 and a half hours.
46:58Holy hell. Jesus. Jesus. So David's question is 45, roughly how many calories did chunk consume in that 10 and a half
47:05hour session where he ate 45, 45, 45. How many grams of protein is that?
47:09That's I, so I already gave my answer. I took 30 seconds and I tried my best to figure this out.
47:16And I just kind of hit some back of the napkin.
47:19How many calories are, we're basically asking how many calories are in 45 salmon?
47:23Yeah. How many calories are in 45? I feel like I'm going to be orders of magnitude off on this, but that's fine.
47:30All right. Three, two, one, 75,000. Oh, okay. Wow.
47:33You guys are close. I wrote 200,000. Okay. Okay.
47:36What is it? The answer is 45 salmon, 45 salmon.
47:39The rough answer is 135,000. Oh, okay. So I think I am in last.
47:43What did you guys say? I said, I said 60.
47:46So I'm 60. What did you say? And Heifetz.
47:49I'm 65 away. 65 away. So I technically win.
47:51What's the protein. Yeah. How many grams of protein?
47:54Especially because the thing that I couldn't figure out, I was trying to like game out like the salmon portions.
48:00And I was like, how many are in there?
48:03And then I realized the thing, the row, that's what I couldn't figure out was the row.
48:08sure. You know what I mean? That's the other thing is like, as they go on, I feel like the bears don't eat the whole salmon.
48:16They just pick and choose their favorite. Well, have you seen the caviar?
48:20The tastiest morsels. Have you seen the videos of bears?
48:23Like how they like skin salmon? And then there's like, yeah.
48:26Well, they just stomp on it and get all the eggs out.
48:30Lick that up. Well, they do that, but they also like, they know how to pull the skin off of the fish, the scales off the fish.
48:38And then there's just like gross fish skin carcasses lying around.
48:41You see those? It's disgusting. No, I've not seen that.
48:44That's like Red Dead Redemption. You know, some people you could just like put, you know, shooting partridge or whatever, but you just got it ripped.
48:52For the birds. Meat right off the bird label, the feathers.
48:55You do not want to, they skin them alive.
48:58Like it is one of the more gruesome things I've ever seen.
49:02They pick up the salmon and they skin it alive.
49:05And then they eat it. Nature's metal. It's great.
49:08Nature is. So Craig gets Sadiq. Yeah. It's a big win.
49:11I don't want to get eaten. Anyway, I'm sorry.
49:14I was thinking about being skinned alive. Yeah, that would not be pleasant.
49:18Anyway. Yeah, I'll take Darren Waller. Fuck it. I'm just, no, I'm in a bad place.
49:22Okay. So, I mean, I guess I'll take season long is still intriguing, but I think Darren Waller is the answer.
49:29Yeah, I'll take Terrence Ferguson. Will Terry, Terry Ferg, Terry is tearing his ankle.
49:33Hopefully he's back. Low grade sprain. He's probably fine.
49:36I'll probably regret not taking the other guy to keep in mind here.
49:40I have it. Or Craig mentioned Gisicki. I think Yosavos and Colby Young are both now hurt.
49:45So that might mean we see more 12 personnel with the Bengals.
49:48And that might mean there, uh, Gisicki plays more.
49:51I think that's more of a, um, just like a stash type of deal than really feeling confident.
49:57Starting him every week. The other guy I think is worth playing is Michael Mayer with the Raiders.
50:02He's still a big part of their offense. Um, he ran 78% of the routes per team drop back this last week with Jack Besh got hurt.
50:10He broke his arm or something, broke his forearm.
50:13Um, so he may see the Raiders just might run a ton of two tight end sets and mayor is essentially going to be a tight end.
50:21They're number one tight end and Bowers is going to be their X receiver.
50:25So there's a chance that mayor is still useful.
50:28Um, but that you're kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel.
50:32That is, but the theme with all these tight ends is that teams.
50:36Now it's almost easier for them when they lose a receiver to just because of all the multiple tight end sets, they're
50:42running, move the production to a tight end. And so we're seeing that with a lot of these teams.
50:48Yeah. Yeah. And then Tyler Higbee too. If Terrence Ferguson's out, like maybe we should be mentioning Tyler Higbee if Puka is still out.
50:55Yeah. And then also probably not going to add him in fantasy, but recording this before Monday football, Zach Ertz is on the Eagles.
51:03Yeah. And I'm not saying you should add him, but like he was bizarrely productive last year.
51:08He hurt his knees like 36, not saying you should add him, but it is weird that Zach Ertz is back on the Eagles.
51:15So it's worth mentioning. Okay. Yeah. Uh, quarterbacks. If you need a quarterback, I think there's three that rise above the rest.
51:22Geno Smith who played great last week. He was the number three quarterback last week.
51:26321, 321 yards, three touchdowns. And now he's playing the bears.
51:30And unless the bears really shut down the Eagles, actually, even if they do, I don't care.
51:35Like the bears defense is fine. And Geno Smith will probably be good again.
51:39Marcus Mariota for Washington in London, playing the Colts defense.
51:42And I don't care what the Texans did. The Colts defense is still bad.
51:46And Marcus Mariota was spry and played really well against Seattle.
51:50And I think that Marcus Mariota adds enough on rushing.
51:53He had three touchdown passes, but if he can play, even with the safety issues that Seattle has, if he can play
51:59that well against Seattle, I think Marcus Mariota versus the Colts is a perfectly good option.
52:04And for honestly, he probably just above Geno for me.
52:07Like Marcus Mariota is like a perfectly good two week streamer till Jay and Daniels comes back.
52:12And then Sam Darnold, who was the number two quarterback in fantasy this week.
52:17We harped on the interceptions because, you know, it kind of him and Jadir and price kind of cost the Seahawks the
52:23win, but 379 yards, four touchdowns, two interceptions. Yeah.
52:26And he's playing the chargers who are obviously reeling.
52:29So, um, yeah, I think between Geno, Mariota and Darnold, there's actually really good quarterback streamers this week.
52:34Um, I would put Mario to first defense. Less good.
52:37I kind of think the top ones, the bills are playing the Patriots.
52:41Just hope for a Drake made meltdown. Once again.
52:44Yeah. Drake may, Drake, maybe Wentz. And just again, because I think with defense, the thing is like, they could give up
52:50a lot of points, but the point is to like, who could get a pick six or a tie.
52:56Who's could get a touchdown. Who could get a lot of sacks.
53:00I think the way Drake may is playing for sure.
53:03I also, I kind of, I'm looking at this Buccaneers Packers game.
53:07And I'm looking at a Bucs defense against green Bay.
53:10Whose offensive lines are disaster. And I'm also looking at green Bay whose defense is bad, but they're J.
53:15I mean, if Baker Mayfield and the dislocated thumb don't play this week, Jalen Daniels, who's an undrafted free agent, rookie playing in NFL defense.
53:23I don't care how bad the defense is. You're talking about like big play sacks, fumbles, interceptions.
53:28I think the Packers defense, I don't know if we'll say this again all season, but the Packers defense is probably like
53:35has a chance to be the number one defense of the week.
53:38Just because if Baker doesn't play. Yeah. Don't think Packers defense is rostered.
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54:27All right. Emails. Yeah. Craig, you asked for Brown's therapy.
54:30Yeah. How are we doing out there in Siberia?
54:33Has DK would put it. This one's from Dan.
54:35Dan. D bone. Dan writes, I'm a lifelong Brown's fan.
54:38I was seven when they came back in 1999.
54:41And I've watched, watched almost every Brown's game since 1999.
54:44Wow. And in that time I have seen 42 different starting quarterbacks, 13 different head coaches, 10 different general managers, five quarterbacks
54:51drafted in the first round and Owen 16 season, three playoff appearances, one playoff win beating the Steelers and seeing old sad.
54:57Big Ben was great, but it was during COVID.
55:00And then Craig basically Dan says, Craig nailed it with, is this Deshaun Watson playing really well and doing well for the Browns?
55:07The worst case scenario. And Dan says, yes. I was not expecting that.
55:11Okay. Dan says, going into the season, my friends and I talked about how worst case scenario would be Deshaun playing.
55:17Okay. To decent. And the Browns ending up like seven and 10 missing the playoffs, but missing out on a quarterback next year too.
55:25And here we are. The Browns have put the fans like me through hell ever since they came back.
55:30And it really felt like a cherry on top that with Deshaun, not only do they do a classic Browns move of
55:37picking and investing in some shitty quarterback, but also obviously a bad guy, no self-awareness.
55:42And he says, this really is going to just keep the cycle of sucking going.
55:46I hate them. Go Browns. Browns have the 18th pick in the draft right now.
55:51You know, that stinks. Where are the Rams? They do have the Rams.
55:55How many picks do they have? So they should probably hire the Rams.
55:59They have three firsts. That's really funny. Two firsts.
56:01The jets have three. The jets right now have picked six, eight and 10.
56:06Wow. I like doing that in three, three. That's yeah.
56:09It is actually really fun. Stop the count right now.
56:12The Texans have the first two picks. Text. Oh, dude.
56:15Arch to Houston. We, I did get another perspective here though.
56:18This is from Alex. A different Browns perspective. Alexander says, when you're in the desert, you need water.
56:23This is what, this is what I thought most people would say.
56:27He said, Alexander winning is fun to watch. You should take any water you can get.
56:32And that's what some positive vibes around the Browns feels like this season.
56:36They have two first round picks in the upcoming draft.
56:39No one knows what a good quarterback is. Anyways, look on Deshaun Watson.
56:43Specifically, the national media became a little too fixed on this preseason booze and the storyline where everyone's booing him.
56:49Yes. The entire Deshaun Watson thing has been a mess.
56:52Yes. We know about the contract and the draft picks and everything.
56:55And as a Browns fan, I much prefer my team taking big swings than putts around like the stupid Bengals or Steelers,
57:02which is a funny thing to read. And Craig's concern about Watson being too good this year also applies to Aaron Rodgers,
57:09who is my age and a vibes vampire. I agree completely.
57:12He says, as a Browns fan, we have many issues, but nothing, absolutely nothing would be better than beating the trashy Steelers at home.
57:19Seriously, nothing. Also, Nick Chubb retiring as a Brown last week cannot be overstated as having an impact on the win.
57:26It's just how you, it's just philosophical differences in how you're a fan.
57:30It's like short term versus long term thinking. It's like, it's just people think differently.
57:34One other email here. This is from anonymous attorney.
57:37Okay. Hey, who didn't want to include his name or her name because they were afraid of the lawyer they were writing about.
57:44Oh, my goodness. Breakfast is two air fried Costco egg white bites with sriracha and cold brew.
57:49Okay. That sounds good. A lot of eggs this morning for the gang.
57:53Air fried. A lot of air fryers out there.
57:56I know. I've never owned an air fryer. It's a big thing.
57:59I don't, I barely know what it is. It's like, well, there's, there's like a toaster oven style air fryer.
58:05And then there's like real air frying. I have one that says it's in your fire, but it's really like a toaster oven, but it's great.
58:13It's really, it is an excellent thing. Just crisps it up.
58:17That was kind of gross to me. Whenever I see somebody like pull out the plastic cartridge and they're just like dumping shit in there.
58:24It's like, you can put cut up pieces of raw salmon in there.
58:28They don't make salmon bites. I'm like, that's gross.
58:31Chunk. Chunk wishes he could. It's like, pour whatever you want in there and it'll cook it for you.
58:37Anonymous attorney writes in the Monday episode, you guys, or the Sunday night recap.
58:41He said, you guys brought up the widely known law firms in local areas and asked for emails.
58:46He says, I'm an attorney. And while I've never practiced personal injury law, I have some exposure to how these firms operate.
58:53These firms are not law firms. That is just not their focus.
58:57These are guerrilla marketing firms. They will not litigate.
58:59They will not litigate a case at trial. And if they refuse to take those cases, and if a case does go
59:06to trial, they will just refer that out to somebody else.
59:09These firms are some of the best case studies of marketing prowess that you could find in a local market.
59:15These like personal injury firms, they bring in as many leads as possible and then settle as fast as possible to get a payout.
59:23So these lawyers of these firms are essentially salesmen that draft up settlements as quick as possible.
59:28And it's an absolutely brilliant business operation, but also the fast food of law practice.
59:32And in San Diego, there's a firm that goes by attorney King and he drives a shiny gold Lamborghini around town and
59:39has marketing videos and projects with high-end streamers. And the entire San Diego County is plastered attorney King billboards.
59:45They're like influencers. Yeah, they're influencer lawyers. And so my favorite was, so I was going through and a lot of people have these influencer lawyers.
59:53My favorite one of which was someone emailed in about Jim Adler, who is known as the Texas hammer and always has
59:59a sledgehammer with him in all his ads. I think I've seen this.
60:03And he, yes, he had a segment on last week tonight because the Texas hammer sued the Alabama hammer.
60:09Can't have two hammers. There can be only one.
60:12There can be only one. I saw that. It was shit.
60:15It was shit. But yeah. And so not only is Jim Adler, the Texas, also you should Google the Texas hammer, the sledgehammers.
60:22He also was in a Mike judge movie apparently and was portrayed by Gene Simmons.
60:27Oh, wow. In a movie. Cool. But yeah, the Texas hammer.
60:30Yeah. This guy, this is exactly how I thought he looked.
60:33This looks like a Tim and Eric sketch. The guy on the left in this, in this billboard, it legitimately looks like Tim Heidecker.
60:40Are we sure it's not? He's got the biggest sledgehammer.
60:44Is that not one of the Tim and Eric guys on the left in like a wig and a makeup?
60:50He's got free real estate. It does look like that.
60:53Got a house for you, Jim. I love it.
60:55Injured wreck called Jim Adler. I love really efficient billboards.
60:58Dude, there's one in LA that I always see driving around.
61:02Yeah, dude, that looks like, yeah. There's a billboard I see all around LA and it always just, it's a giant billboard
61:08and all it says is cheated on question mark?
61:11STDtesting.org. Yes. And I'm like, man, that hits. That's efficient right there.
61:15You know what I mean? Like that, that cuts right through the noise.
61:19There should be a billboard for like draft. Did you draft Drake may called Jim Adler with the sledgehammer, the fantasy hammer.
61:25Do you guys ever drive by the ones about God?
61:28And then you kind of be like, maybe I should call the number.
61:32I've never, I know what you're talking about. You're calling God.
61:36No. Well, I don't think it's a direct line.
61:38Well, that's too bad. It could be. You don't know though until you try.
61:43Right. Right. The other law firm that I had to mention was, I'm going to redact all these people's names, but he
61:49says breakfast is cold brew protein shake, apple with peanut butter.
61:53In Charlotte, there is a law firm called Peniston and Deason.
61:56Okay. But it's, I mean, it's spelled Peniston. Right.
61:59P E N I S T O N. Like a ton of penis.
62:03It's like, that's like miss pistol. Yes, exactly. And the guy's name is Richard.
62:07So his advertising is literally Dick Peniston. Jesus. Okay.
62:10And it's on the spine of the phone book.
62:12Dick Peniston. I see him here. It's probably pronounced Peniston.
62:15Probably. He should just go by Peniston. If you wanted more marketing.
62:19If I wanted to really make a splash. Email us more good billboards.
62:23I want ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. I want more good billboards.
62:26Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam.
62:29Thank you, Nikhil. Thank you, Austin. Thank you for listening.
62:32Emails fantasy courts. Litigate, litigate your will litigate. We're the real lawyers here with judges.
62:37Jerry will fit. We'll litigate. What's going on in your group chat.
62:40Send us what you're arguing about. We'll hold a sledgehammer during.
62:44We should. Fantasy court. Thank you, Lord. Lord. 80s month.
62:47We're emmies. 80s month. My God. Final one. We are so close to the end of 80s month.
62:52I feel like we cannot leave 80s month without talking about fucking guns and roses.
62:57Welcome to the jungle, baby. Wow. You're going to die.
63:00At the beginning of the song, it's like, welcome to the jungle, baby.
63:04You're going to die. Just a great song. Iconic song.
63:07I think that's, according to Rolling Stone, one of the 500 greatest songs of all time.
63:12Yeah. Axl Rose slash. We can't get out of this month without talking about guns and roses.
63:17I love guitar. You're going to die. Now you're going to die.
63:20That's what Craig feels to drink, but you're going to die.
63:24You're going to die. Welcome to the jungle. Opening guitar really want to make sure you just run through a wall.
63:30The second you hear a very elite one second song challenge song.
63:34Yeah, true. This one's from 1987. Their album appetite for destruction.
63:37Just fucking badass. I almost did November rain. Do you guys know the song November rain?
63:42But then I realized it was in the early nineties was when they released it.
63:46No, I don't think I know it. November rain is also super iconic.
63:50Like from guns and roses. Yeah. Guns and roses is one of the most like glorious.
63:55They do this. Crazy. Outro solo. Where slash is just fucking going to town for like a full two minutes.
64:01It's fucking amazing. The only other big guns and roses song I know is sweet child of mine.
64:07Oh yeah. That's another good one. That's also the start.
64:10The beginning of that song is immediate, right? Immediately recognizable.
64:13In high school, we did this thing called lip sync where each class competes and you put on like a 10 minute
64:19kind of performance of like kind of like sketches and you're lip syncing to songs.
64:24And one of them we did my senior year was the scene from step brothers where Adam Scott is doing sweet child of mine in the car.
64:32Yeah. And I, I played Adam Scott. So I had to like get his exact lines down the singing and all his comments.
64:39And it was like the most fun I've ever had.
64:42It was the most fun I've ever had. It was so good.
64:46We were like on stage trying to drive and they like almost crash and then they stick to the song.
64:52It's great. Oh, that's good. Did you guys win?
64:55We did win. We were good. Of course. Of course.
64:58Nice. We put a lot of work into it.
65:00That was like the most fun I've ever had doing stuff like that.
65:04It's great. It is real. That is like really fun.
65:07Yeah. I'm still reading about Rick Penniston. I'm on his website.
65:11I'm going to tell us things about him. I love, I just love stuff like this.
65:15Here's this is on his website. On the personal side, Rick is celebrating 30 years of marriage to Jane and enjoying his children and grandchildren.
65:23Rick is a lifelong cowboy. He has competed in Western riding competitions since age nine.
65:28And he has won several world and national championships.
65:30He was recently inducted into the Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame.
65:34Whoa. Stop it. Not just the regular Cowboy Hall of Fame.
65:37Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame. He has won several world and national championships.
65:41I mean, with a name like Dick Peniston. Dick Penis did Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame.
65:46You got to be tough. What the fuck is the Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame?
65:50Wait, so there's a Cowboy Hall of Fame and then there's Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame?
65:55Yeah. Don't tell Jerry Jones about that. What are the Extreme Cowboys doing differently?
65:59Craig Cameron, founder of the Extreme Cowboy Association and the original cowboy.
66:03Imagine naming yourself that, the original cowboy. OG cowboy.
66:06Who is Craig Cameron? Extreme Cowboy Racing. The Extreme Cowboy Association.
66:09What are they up to? What are they up to?
66:12If anyone can get us in touch with the Extreme Cowboy Association, please put us in touch at riggerfantasyfootball.gmail.com.
66:18Wait, now I'm on their website. Damn, this doesn't work.
66:21I kind of want to watch some Extreme Cowboy Racing.
66:24I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Where agility and greet meet horsemanship.
66:28Did you say greet? Oh, I did. I meant grit.
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