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1:39My name is Danny Heifetz. Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck, and we are going over all the players
1:46you need to add after Week 3 entering Week 4 for the NFL season.
1:50We're going to get into all that, but first, the Giants have traded for nine.
1:54DK, Giants have sent a fifth for nine. J.J.
1:57McCarthy, who I've always loved, never disparaged, constantly believed in.
2:00I can't remember a single negative thing you've said about him.
2:04Not a one. And he's on the Giants now in exchange for a fifth-round pick, and this is probably the best trade
2:10any team's made all year, right, DK? I don't know about that, but I do think it is a relatively low-risk, high-upside type of deal.
2:18You know, we've seen teams turn draft-bust players into starters in the recent years, like Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, you know, guys
2:24like that where they just need a new change of scenery, and maybe like a new coach, maybe a new system, and
2:31things start to level out for them. Lower expectations, you know?
2:34So I think this is good for both sides.
2:37Boy, does it pay to be a friend of the Harbaugh's.
2:41I know, right? I feel like you play for those guys once, and you're employed for at least five years.
2:47You go 15-0 and win a national championship, then oh my god, yeah.
2:51Look, he's got a winning record in the NFL, too, I'll have you know.
2:55He's 6-4 as a starter. I'll have you know.
2:57It'll be entertaining. He's a perfect New York Giant.
3:00This will be him and Cam Scatterhue. New York Giant.
3:03What does that mean? He's a perfect New York Giant, and you know what I mean.
3:08What does that mean? You know what I mean.
3:11What do you mean? What do you mean he's a perfect Giant?
3:14There's going to be moments and flashes where you're going to be like, is J.J.
3:19McCarthy a thing? And 90% of the time, it'll be a disaster, but it'll make the remainder of the season much more entertaining for Giants fans.
3:27What's the point of this? Is the point like, we want to keep momentum going and maybe J.J.
3:32McCarthy's good? I also read reports that they're bringing him in as a backup.
3:37Like he's not going to compete with Jameis to start.
3:40Yeah, no. I mean, he's a backup. What's the point of this?
3:43Were you trading for a backup? I think the, there's probably two answers.
3:47You're trading for a backup in an already lost season.
3:50Well, there's two answers. It's that Jackson's not going to play and that they don't have a developmental quarterback on the roster,
3:57and so you kind of need to have one.
4:00And I think it's a mix of two things.
4:02Roger Sherman's been joking that Jameis Winston was kind of like doing World Cup promo for Fox and kind of just gallivanting
4:09and traveling and drinking and maybe not taking very seriously the offseason, which is why he doesn't really look that good, which I don't necessarily not believe.
4:17And the flip side is I actually think more teams should do this, which is, yeah, like you should buy the dip
4:24on quarterbacks that had top 10 picks. Like I am not under any delusions.
4:28Like J.J. McCarthy's probably never going to be a starter in the NFL again, like as a good NFL starter.
4:34Yeah, but that's already the expectation. And exactly. That's why he got him for a fifth round pick.
4:40And again, in a world where Sam Darnold won a Super Bowl, like Sam Darnold, who got a cup of coffee as
4:46the Panthers starter and then was a backup for the Niners for an entire year, then won 14 games back-to-back seasons with
4:53different teams, which had only been done by Tom Brady and Peyton Manning in the one of the Super Bowl.
4:59Geno Smith is with the Jets and looks good 10 years after the Jets ditched him.
5:04Anything is possible, clearly. So it's like, yeah, if the Giants had sent the third for J.J.
5:09McCarthy, I'd be like, that's steep. A fifth rounder for a guy that was a quarterback two years ago.
5:15And again, McCarthy's only played 10 games. Like I will say that he has sucked.
5:19I've been disgusted with him, but he's played 10 games.
5:22He's had a meniscus injury. He had the high ankle sprain.
5:26He had a concussion that was, I think there was a real one and a fake one, which they kept him out
5:32of the Seattle game because they were worried he was going to like end his career.
5:37And then Max Brosmer had the 26 to zero loss.
5:40But overall, I'm like, yeah, throw a dart for a fifth on a guy.
5:44Like how many times have we seen people be wrong about quarterbacks?
5:48Like it doesn't cost you anything. It's fine. Yeah.
5:51There's no downside to this, I feel like. I also think it's funny just from the Vikings point of view.
5:57This is like exactly what happened during the quarterback competition.
6:00It's like as soon as people start talking about JG McCarthy, having better practices, looking a little bit sharper, they name Kyler Murray, the starter.
6:07And Kyler Murray comes out here, plays pretty terribly in his first like full start.
6:12And the Vikings are like, okay, we got to trade JG McCarthy before we start, before people start talking.
6:18We're going to get ahead of this. To be clear, I'm not under any illusions.
6:22I understand like, I mean, Kevin Seifert. This is awesome Cope though.
6:26I like it. No, you're doing good. I'm like, yeah, sure.
6:29I'll get excited. I understand it's not going to work.
6:32Like Kevin Seifert, who covers the Vikings for his business.
6:35It might. It might. The Elias Sports Bureau had this poll that JG McCarthy is one of four first-run quarterbacks in the
6:42past 25 years who started 10 or fewer games to the team that drafted them.
6:46And the others are Paxton Lynch, Trey Lance, Johnny Menzel.
6:49So those are just like the worst quarterbacks drafted basically in the first round along with like what Tim Tebow and Jamarcus Russell.
6:56Yeah. McCarthy is probably bad. And the Giants, again, Brian Burns towards ACL.
7:00He had 16 and a half sacks for the Giants last year.
7:04Like the season's over. Like that's the short answer, Craig.
7:07The season's over for the Giants. I agree. How many games does he start this year?
7:12JJ McCarthy. Probably. Honestly, I would hope I would like him to get four.
7:16Half of the remaining games? Yeah. I'd like him to get four or five.
7:20I think it depends on competitive Jameis is. If Jameis Winston comes out and I'm going to throw out last week for
7:27Cam Ward and Jameis Winston, it was pouring rain.
7:30I don't want to think about that game too much.
7:33But if Jameis comes out and looks like he did against the Lions last year where he's catching touchdowns and like, you
7:39know, trucking defenders and running the end zone, keep Jameis playing.
7:43But yeah, if Jameis sucks, then I'm like, give JJ McCarthy half a season and either lead us to Arch Manning or I don't know.
7:50I don't mind giving him some run. He can look terrible for the Giants.
7:55Someone's going to do it. He might as well be like a quarterback.
7:58Like that's really what he needs. Exactly. Exactly. He needs reps.
8:02He needs to play football. And I don't, I don't love JJ McCarthy, but there were a lot of people who believed
8:08that he could succeed in exactly the kind of offense that's the meta of the NFL right now.
8:14Like he could do under center, drop back. Like, you know what I mean?
8:18Maybe at least he could be a paint by numbers quarterback.
8:22He'll probably suck, but it's a fifth round pick.
8:24How many fifth round is that the Giants hit in my entire life?
8:28Not that many. This is great. This is great.
8:31I'm really enjoying this. It's a fifth round pick.
8:34Who gives a shit? If it was a seventh, would you care?
8:37Um, I probably wouldn't give up a fifth for JJ McCarthy if I'm the New York Giants, but I don't know.
8:44The quarterbacks are Jameis Winston and Jake Haener. Who cares?
8:47I guess the short answer is like beggars can't be choosers.
8:50Yeah. But like, yeah, I don't know. I think this is a fine move.
8:54Yeah. I don't know why I would try to fifth round pick for a backup quarterback that I'm going to develop.
9:01And then I guess flip. I don't know. What if, what if he's good?
9:05What if there's a one in 10 chance that he's good?
9:08Um, I mean, you just said you, you mentioned Arch Manning's name.
9:12Like, are you out on Jackson Dart now? Like I would be focusing on Jackson Dart as the quarterback of my team
9:18and I wouldn't want to trade picks away for JJ McCarthy.
9:22Probably. It's not a huge deal. Again, it's a fifth round pick, but I'm still just like, eh, probably, probably just keep my picks.
9:29I love Dart with all my heart. And also he has finished very few of the games that he's played.
9:35I don't think it's the worst idea to be like, you know, exploring other options for free.
9:40So I don't mind it. I will say the other thing I want to say though, about this.
9:46Um, so if just kind of look at the 2024 NFL draft, you know, they say you need three years to evaluate
9:52a draft and we're about to end. Like, this is the third season.
9:56Can I just go like the 2024 draft is one kind of like a little like window into the whole season, but it is unbelievable.
10:04The snip snap experience of the 2024 draft. You have Caleb Williams went to the bears first, who obviously, you know, meme of the season.
10:11Jaden Daniels has gone to Washington, almost got them to the super bowl.
10:15And then now it's dislocated his elbow like three times.
10:18And it's like RG five Drake may for the Patriots just went to the super bowl.
10:23And then now is like the Carson Wentz of the season in 2026 alone.
10:27So far, none of those three have had a normal three-year stretch.
10:31Caleb went from terrible to great. Jaden went from great to kind of, this is a mess.
10:36Drake went from awesome, from bad to awesome to bad.
10:39But then you keep going. Marvin Harrison Jr. For the Cardinals is probably one of the five worst receiver picks maybe in the history of the league.
10:47If things keep going, Joe Alt for the Chargers leads all players in penalties.
10:52Great. Then hurt. Then bad. Yeah. Look was great.
10:54Then bad. Malik neighbors look great. Now hurt. And people who are from fantasy probably don't want to play Malik neighbors.
11:01He doesn't. He's not a percent. The Falcons took Michael Penix Jr.
11:04Who's already had the third ACL tear and looked good, but like is on his third ACL.
11:10The Bears drafted Roma Dunze. What a weird draft.
11:12Oh my gosh. Again, this was the fantasy football.
11:15This was the savior draft. This was the first draft ever.
11:18The first 14 picks were on offense. It was supposed to be a fantasy goldmine.
11:23You have the Vikings took J.G. McCarthy, who now is on a list with Johnny Menzel.
11:28Like you have the Jets took Olufushanu, who probably is the pick here.
11:32The Broncos. Like a solid pick. Broncos at Bo Nix.
11:35Maybe the best quarterback right now after Caleb Williams in this class.
11:38The Raiders took Brock Bowers, who is a football robot.
11:41But the Colts took Leotu Latu, who's been abysmal.
11:44But if you just go down at receiver even.
11:47Is he been abysmal? No. No, he's fine. He's just like fine.
11:50But the receivers. Brian Thomas, 1,400 yards as a rookie.
11:54And then now it's like probably cuttable in fantasy football for some people who hate him.
11:58Xavier Worthy on the Chiefs, who is like. I mean, a nobody.
12:02He's just like a gadget player. Xavier Worthy, yeah.
12:05Yeah. Ricky Persol, who has barely played for the 49ers over three years.
12:09Xavier Leggett, who is healthy but unplayable. Well, he was hurt last week.
12:13But unplayable for Carolina. You have Keon Coleman on the Bills.
12:16If the Bills had taken Ladd McConkie, would they have made two Super Bowls by now?
12:21Ladd McConkie, who is like the key on off player for the Chargers, but is hurt.
12:26Jalen Polk for the Patriots. The 37th pick in the draft.
12:29Already retired. Aidy Mitchell is already on the Jets.
12:32Malachi Corley is out of the league. Jermaine Burton's out of the league.
12:36You just go down. Jalen McMillan, it was good.
12:38And then now neck injury. Broke is hurt. Like none of these players are having any kind of impact this season at receiver.
12:45And there were like 10 taken. There were eight taken in the first 37 days.
12:50Well, you could argue that the best receiver of the 2024 draft class was undrafted.
12:54And his name is Jalen Coker. Yes. Who has...
12:57I saw a stat that Jalen Coker this year has more yards than Malik Nabors, Marvin Harrison, and Roman Dudesay combined.
13:03This is a really weird draft. Yeah. The NFL is hard.
13:07So many of these things are related to injury too.
13:10I was just looking like the Brock Bowers thing.
13:13He stands out as probably one of the outliers for by far best values in this class.
13:18But he also has missed huge chunks of time.
13:20Yeah. The injury thing is tough. Yeah. I just...
13:23It just... That's just when I look at the McCarthy trade, I'm like, all of these guys have basically been incredibly disappointing
13:30with the exception of the defensive players who the entire league passed on for the first 14 picks.
13:35And Bowers. And Bonex. So funny world we're living in.
13:38Hmm. Okay. Craig, I'm glad you love the trade as much as I do.
13:43I just loved your video being like, yeah, this makes sense.
13:46Yeah. I'm into it. We're going to see it.
13:49Top 10 picks. So, you know, like I'm into it.
13:52I thought it was funny. Well, he's bad. I thought it was funny.
13:56Yeah. You hate James McCarthy. He's fucking terrible. I do.
13:59But there's a humility to it. It's like, I could be wrong.
14:02Did you guys think Sam... When Sam... One year ago, or I guess 14 months ago, we were really concerned about the
14:09Seahawks swapping out Darnold for Geno Smith. I mean, that was after he won 14 games.
14:14Think about like the year before when he was like the backup on San Francisco.
14:18You know? Now I know. Things change fast. That's all.
14:21Things do change fast. But like, I guess any time a bust gets traded, you can just say Sam Darnold's name and
14:28then you can basically justify every trade because of Sam Darnold?
14:31Yeah. Well, I'm saying it's a fifth round pick.
14:34Totally. Yeah, I know. In exchange for a dart, for a throw at the dart board, a quarterback, I'm like, that is
14:41probably what the Giants should be doing. Because if Jackson Dart comes back and gets hurt, they're fucked.
14:46All right. I don't want to hear any Drew Aller shit then.
14:50When the Steelers... When I'm into Drew Aller, I don't want to hear any shit.
14:54No, I'm not. I make fun of you because it's funny.
14:58But in reality, that's exactly what teams should be doing.
15:01Just because you have Aaron Rodgers doesn't mean you shouldn't be taking shots at a quarterback.
15:06That's exactly what they should be doing. All right, great.
15:09Okay. Let's get to waivers. I'll root for McCarthy if you root for Aller.
15:13That should be the deal. Deal. Who do I get to root for?
15:17We'll be supportive of each other. I like that, actually.
15:20You won the Super Bowl. You're fine. You're fine.
15:22At least happy title defense of all time. Go sit by yourself.
15:26So, okay. So, we're going to go through waivers.
15:29Again, we're going to go position by position. We're just going to give our top pick at the position.
15:35Only one of us can get each player. So, we'll do a trivia tiebreaker.
15:39It's not that complicated. You'll figure it out as we go.
15:42Email us. Trivia questions. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com.
15:45I like the ones people have been sending. So, keep sending them.
15:49We're doing less of the how many atoms are in the universe and more things that we've been talking about on the show.
15:55So, thank you for those. Without further ado, DK.
15:58Yo. So, obviously, the big running back news this week is Devon Achane for the Miami Dolphins towards ACL.
16:04And he's out for the season. Yeah. Which is just, I would say, a kick in the nuts to the Dolphins.
16:10But I feel like this season had already been gelded.
16:13So, I don't even know what it is. Who is your number one running back on waivers after week three entering week four?
16:20I think because of the injury to HN, it's between.
16:23And there was also, by the way, an injury to Brees Hall, who was week to week.
16:28He had a quad injury, I believe. And he left the game.
16:32And so, to me, it's between two guys. Braylon Allen of the Jets and Ollie Gordon of the Dolphins.
16:38I think I'm going to give Braylon Allen the edge just because he feels like the clear-cut actual backup.
16:44And I don't exactly know how the rotation will go with the Dolphins with Ollie Gordon versus Jalen Wright.
16:49Jalen Wright was hurt in this last game. He might be back soon.
16:53Braylon Allen, I think, is the clear-cut next man up.
16:56And he plays for what looks like a much better offense.
17:00And an offense that can get him into the red zone more often.
17:04So, I'm going with Braylon Allen of the Jets.
17:06Craig? This feels like the first true week of waivers in the fantasy season because there are finally guys that you can
17:13add that might be on your team for the rest of the season.
17:17And these are real running backs that you can slot into your starting lineup, I think.
17:22I mean, look, Brees is going to be out a little bit.
17:25Ollie Gordon and Jalen Wright, the two Dolphins running backs, are going to be there for the rest of the season.
17:32So, you have to factor that in of, like, you might only get two weeks of Braylon Allen.
17:37We should also mention Travis Achan, formerly ETN, pulled his hamstring.
17:41It looks like he's going to miss some time.
17:43So, Alvin Kamara and Kendra Miller, I would say, also mix into this.
17:47I think if you're looking short-term, I would take Braylon Allen.
17:51If you're looking long-term, I would take Ollie Gordon.
17:53So, for the purposes of this exercise, like, if I want a guy next week, I would take Braylon Allen, who I
18:00think is the best player on this list. I think Braylon Allen's still really young, one of, like, the youngest guys to
18:07come into the league a few years ago. Kind of, like, varying opinions on him.
18:11I've always thought he was good. I've always thought he looks good.
18:15He's big, strong, has, like, a ton of burst.
18:18And he scored last week. I would go with Braylon.
18:21The Jets have the Bears next week, too. Yeah.
18:23I had Braylon Allen as well for all those reasons.
18:26And, again, if you, like, really want to replace a guy for the whole season, you could get Ollie Gordon for the Dolphins.
18:33Like, if you had HN. The way I look at it is, yeah.
18:37Like, yeah. I had Braylon Allen, too. For the same reason.
18:41I just, Braylon Allen's a better player, and he's on a better team.
18:44And the Jets, I don't know. Just the Dolphins are the worst team in the league.
18:49I know. It's just tough to have a running back on the worst team in the league.
18:54A backup, no less. I remember. Do you guys remember?
18:57I don't know how old you were the first time you started going to the supermarket, like, alone to shop for yourself.
19:04And I remember, like, you know, you're tempted by, like, those, like, supermarket pies.
19:08And you're like, wow. I would love to just buy a pie from the bakery section.
19:13And then when I'm older, I'm like, I don't need a lot of, like, a bad pie.
19:18Like, that's probably bad for me. And Ollie Gordon, like, you're getting a bigger share of, like, the worst pie in the NFL.
19:25I'm like, it's a disgusting pie. And Devon HN had all the, like, literally the biggest.
19:30Only Jonathan Taylor is playing more of running backs than Devon HN.
19:34And he's, like, one of the most talented running backs in the NFL.
19:38And he was, like, fine. HN was like a borderline starter.
19:41And now you're going to split the work between two people who are worse.
19:45So the odds that you actually want to put Ollie Gordon or Jalen Wright in your lineup each week is, like, to
19:52me so low that I'm like, I'd rather kind of just do short term and figure it out.
19:57I do want to throw out, and DK, I want to ask you about Jalen Wright because I know that you scouted him and have thoughts on him.
20:06I will say, I think everyone in your league is going to go after Ollie Gordon.
20:11He'll be the big spend with your waiver money.
20:13Jalen Wright, who is listed, he was day-to-day last week with, like, a foot stinger thing.
20:18He didn't play. They keep saying he's day-to-day. At the end of last season, Jalen Wright out snapped Ollie Gordon almost 2-1
20:25over the final five weeks of the season. It might be a better player.
20:29And so if Jalen Wright, is there a chance Jalen Wright is actually the sneaky ad where while everyone's spending all their
20:36money on Ollie Gordon, you should actually go after Jalen Wright?
20:39Even if it takes an extra week for him to come back because he could actually be the most talented lead back on the Dolphins?
20:47I think there is a chance, yeah. I mean, he was a guy coming out of college super fast.
20:53I think he ran like a 4-3 or something like that.
20:56Big play type of guy with question marks around his vision and sort of decision making.
21:01He came out of Tennessee. So, you know, that offense in Tennessee is all about creating space and spreading the field out as much as possible.
21:09It's like the receivers are lining up almost on the sideline type of deal.
21:13So there was a lot of questions whether it would translate to the NFL in terms of like what he could be.
21:20I think it's still the jury's still out on him.
21:23I don't know if he's necessarily been super impressive.
21:25He has a 3.9 yards per carry average in his career.
21:29But I think it's certainly worth, you know, it is.
21:32I think you're absolutely right. People are going to be focused in on Ollie Gordon and Wright could end up surpassing him
21:38later in the season as we go along. I just think you could probably get Jalen Wright for like $5.
21:44And I think it's probably worth doing that. I hope he can get him for free.
21:49Sure. But if you want, you know, sometimes you got to spend a couple extra bucks to secure and ensure that you get them.
21:56But I do think you could get him for single digits because I think Ollie Gordon's going to go for a lot.
22:03Yeah. Yeah. And I wouldn't. There's not upside to me.
22:06It's like, again, he, Ollie Gordon had 40 yards in a touchdown.
22:10I'm like, that'll, that'll be it most weeks. Okay.
22:13I think it's time, Greg. I think it's time as well for the Braylon Allen showdown time.
22:18Ooh. All right. This question is from Matt. Matt E.
22:21And Bone. Breakfast today was a breakfast sandwich, an over medium egg on a toasted Asiago cheese bagel with cheddar cheese and
22:27butter and two cups of coffee with creamer. Ooh.
22:30Wow. Nice. Sounds good. I heard your conversation about lawyers on billboards at the start of this morning show.
22:36I work in sales in the billboard advertising industry.
22:39Ooh. According to the out of home advertising association of America.
22:42Oh, a, a, a, a, a. I couldn't believe this was real.
22:46Oh, yeah. There is an Orlando. Ah, Orlando. There's an Orlando based in personal injury law firm, Morgan and Morgan, who has
22:52been the number one spender in out of home advertising through the first two quarters of 2026.
22:57In fact, legal services is the number one industry in all out of home advertising through Q2 of 2026, surpassing hospitals, college and universities, restaurants and banks.
23:06Which kind of blew my mind. And in 2025, Morgan and Morgan was the number two spender in out of home advertising, second only to Apple.
23:13What? Wow. This injury law firm in Orlando was second and Apple was first, which just blew my mind.
23:19Yeah. So Matt's question is how much money did Morgan and Morgan spend on out of home advertising in 2025?
23:25Are they a national brand or just in Florida?
23:28I think they must be national. I don't know.
23:31So it's a spend all over the country, not just in Orlando or something.
23:35It has to be. Okay. If it's like Apple one.
23:38And he says, because they have context on what he means.
23:41Out of home advertising includes traditional print billboards, wall murals, digital billboards, transit advertising, buses, trains, subways, airports, street furniture, bus shelters, kiosks.
23:48Park benches. Okay. Hmm. How much money did they spend last year on ads?
23:52I have no clue how much this shit costs.
23:55Me too. Because it's like a commercial costs a lot.
23:58But a billboard. God knows. Okay. You guys ready?
24:01Sure. Three, two, one. 25 million. Three million. Okay.
24:04We're different. I said 100 million. 100 million? This Morgan and Morgan place must be fucking massive.
24:09It was like Apple. I just heard Apple. I went low just for my, to defend myself here.
24:14I went low because I think, I don't think places spend a ton of money on like fucking billboards and bus shelters and things.
24:22So the real answer is it is. Oh my God.
24:25To the dollar. What? 58 million, 201,720. How are they spending?
24:28This place must be huge. I don't. I don't.
24:31Morgan and Morgan, they're spending almost $60 million on advertising.
24:34Because I guess that maybe they're in like big cities, billboards in very, you know, concentrated metropolitan areas.
24:39And it costs a lot of money to get a billboard in like New York and Chicago and LA.
24:45I don't know. I don't know. That kind of blows my mind.
24:48So I get the dub. So what did you say?
24:5225. Yeah, you win. Yeah. And then I think I'm second and DK's third.
24:56All right. Okay. So who do you want? You want Braylon Allen?
24:59I know. It's funny. It's like, yeah, I will take Braylon Allen.
25:03Because it's one of those you're like, oh, you want Ollie Gordon for the rest of the year.
25:08It's like, isn't having Ollie Gordon kind of like fucking up your roster?
25:12Well, I don't know. I mean, running back is dire, man.
25:16If you have, if you have like Travion Henderson or RJ Harvey or David Montgomery, like there's a lot of RB2s that
25:22you thought were going to be a thing that aren't.
25:25And maybe you would start Ollie Gordon over like David Montgomery.
25:29I know. But then you're watching the Dolphins hoping they score and you're like, oh my God, they're trying to lose.
25:35It's not for the players. Yeah. But it's yeah.
25:38Fair enough. I think I would take again, if you need a quarter, if you have a Chan and you actually want
25:45to play her for the rest of the season, you could take Ollie Gordon.
25:49I guess. I just feel like we've seen this movie.
25:52It sucks. Yeah. But maybe it's crazy, but I part of this is really tricky because we don't have an update yet.
25:58So there's Devon HN of the Dolphins and then Travis HN on the Saints.
26:03And we don't have an update yet on how long he's out.
26:06If Travis HN is also like out multiple weeks, I would look really hard at Alvin Kamara or Kendra Miller for the Saints.
26:13Alvin Kamara is probably going to play more because he's a legend and just more experienced.
26:18But Kendra Miller probably has more juice because Kamara is kind of washed.
26:22But yeah, Travis HN pulled up on his hamstring and I mean, the Saints have run the most plays this season.
26:28The Saints have 222 plays, which is 60 more plays than Tennessee.
26:32Like the Saints have already basically played a full game more than the Titans through three weeks.
26:37So I'm like, damn, like that. Like if you're talking about Kamara at that point, like that alone is enough for me.
26:44Like we were talking about touches, but man, like that is a huge disparity.
26:48So if you're looking at it like a one or two week stop gap, I would go with the Saints running back.
26:55Dare I mention Keaton Mitchell of the Los Angeles Chargers, who's 32% rostered on Yahoo.
26:59He had 50 yards in a touchdown last week.
27:02Kind of just looks as good or better than O'Marion Hampton.
27:05And the split was just much more even. It was basically like a three-way split between Hampton Mitchell and Kamani Vidal.
27:12And I'm like, I don't know. I think Keaton Mitchell was banged up to start the season.
27:17I think that could have played a role in why he wasn't on the field as much.
27:22Maybe now he's a little healthier. I know it's the Chargers, but Keaton Mitchell.
27:26What do you think? I mean, if you want to go through that hell of trying to figure out whether to start
27:33him as a Chargers running back, I do think he is someone to consider.
27:37It's just going to be probably a little frustrating.
27:40But if you're desperate. We're comparing him to like Calvin Kamara, Olly Gordon.
27:44I don't know. Keaton Mitchell's talented and young. I don't mind it at all.
27:48Who did you choose officially? I think Olly Gordon's the next.
27:51I guess I'll take Olly Gordon. We don't know.
27:54Travis HN in theory could play this week. And then I'll take Kamara.
27:58Definitely. I think the other. I think Keaton Mitchell's a good one.
28:02Mike Washington for the Raiders or Brian Robinson for the Falcons.
28:05Just guys that have upside as handcuffs only stash type players.
28:08So those would be the main ones. I think HN's out.
28:12Kellen Moore said he's going to have some time lost.
28:15Yeah. He has like a hamstring injury. So it's like at least two to three weeks, probably longer.
28:20I think, yeah, I think the only other person I want to say is if those people are all rostered, I want
28:27the next version of that is Mike Washington Jr.
28:30for the Raiders, which he had one big play for a touchdown.
28:33So Mike Washington had five carries for 54 yards in a touchdown.
28:37Ashton Gentry had 17 more carries, only got two more yards.
28:40Again, it was. Gentry's interesting, man. We're like sometimes like he just does nothing and it just feels like he can't get
28:47any wiggle and he'll just he's like getting two yards to carry.
28:50And then other times he looks like the best running back in the league.
28:55So I think this one's simple. I think Ashton Gentry, obviously he had the ankle injury in August.
29:00I think Ashton Gentry just tweaked his ankle at the end of week two.
29:04And his people are it's under the radar. And I think they're downplaying the injury.
29:09But I just don't think Ashton Gentry is healthy right now.
29:12So he could improve. But I think there's a reason you don't see him having a ton of juice and not making
29:19a huge impact in that Saints game. And so if anything else happens to his ankle, Mike Washington Jr.
29:25looks fantastic. So that is probably the next version of this player on this episode is if you're in a deeper league
29:31and you're like Kamara's rostered, all these people are rostered, then I would go get Mike Washington for the Raiders because yeah.
29:38And then Austin Eckler signed with Washington, which I don't know you should add him, but I did want to just mention Eckler is back in the NFL.
29:46Yep. Coming off the Achilles tear, right? Yes. Would you guys cut Jonah Coleman for the last week we had to talk about Jonah Coleman.
29:54And then it turns out he was more injured than J.K.
29:57Dobbins at R.J. Harvey, which is just insane. And he's on injury reserve now.
30:02So I love that we've heard about his injury on Wednesday.
30:05That's super helpful. It's I would cut you on.
30:08Yeah. Yeah. It's so fucking annoying that he's on injury reserve.
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31:08Okay. Receivers. Not as exciting at receiver this week.
31:11It's a little down in the dumps. DK, who is your number one receiver you'd had after week three entering week four?
31:18I think I'm going with Keenan Allen for the Colts.
31:21He had nine targets, six catches, 63 yards and a touchdown.
31:24He's running a bunch of routes, 70 plus percent routes per team drop back this year.
31:29And the target rate on the on the Colts so far is basically just concentrated between him, Downs and Tyler Warren.
31:35So not a super sexy ad. And he also might be suspended at some point because of this drunk driving charge that he got.
31:42DUI. But I think for now, if I was going to start somebody next week on this group, it would probably be Keenan Allen.
31:50None of these guys are worth starting on your team.
31:53And I would even argue not many of them are even worth rostering.
31:57Like this is like last guy in your lineup type of stuff, I would say.
32:01Like, I'm curious to see what happens tonight in the Eagles game.
32:05Dontavian Wicks or Makai Lemon. But yeah, Keenan Allen, sure.
32:08But I don't really have I don't think any of these guys are worth dropping somebody on on your team for, I would say.
32:15I agree. It's a desperation thing. It's like if you have a bunch of injured players and you're just absolutely fighting for your life.
32:22Like, yeah, I would probably do Keenan Allen, too, just because they're playing Washington.
32:27The game's in London. But if you're like it's for this week thing.
32:31Yeah, I mean, I Keenan Allen's probably got a better chance against the Washington defense.
32:35You know, that's like Wanda Robinson. I feel like his people are being cut because he has sucked and he had a bunch of targets.
32:43But that game was against the Giants and in the rain.
32:46And yeah, it sucks. I agree with Craig that Dontavian Wicks from if he's around.
32:51We'll see. We're recording this before Monday to football, but he's probably one.
32:55And even 80 Mitchell for the Jets. If he's around, it's like he's a good player in theory.
33:00Get separation. The Jets offense looks good. But the problem is 80 Mitchell.
33:04Like he has a finger injury. But his whole hand was taped.
33:08And the problem is he already kind of has issues with the drops.
33:12Right. He was already kind of shaky on catching the football.
33:15I know. And now it's like a big club for a hand.
33:18And I'm like, just like he's going to be like Buster from Arrested Development just swatting the football.
33:24Like, I'm a monster. And I'm like, yeah. So it's weird that he's going to be white.
33:29Get out. Lucille. The question is, what about the Dolphins guys?
33:32Malik Washington and Chris Bell. Chris Bell, I'm interested in.
33:35And I think might be worth a speculative ad.
33:38If you're just like, screw it. I want upside on the end of my roster.
33:43And I'll wait all year. And maybe it'll work out.
33:46Chris Bell is just like big, fast, coming back from an injury.
33:49Caleb Douglas, the other rookie receiver for the Dolphins, is out.
33:53Chris Bell kind of looked good. Honestly, should have had a bigger day.
33:57He had 67 yards this week. But there was like two plays where he could have got a touchdown that were missed.
34:03Again, Dolphins. Do you really want to be attached to the Dolphins?
34:07But I don't mind Chris Bell. I'm actually going to change my answer to Chris Bell.
34:12And here's why. I think if you like, gun to my head, it was more points next week in fantasy football.
34:18It's probably Keenan Allen. We're talking about season-long upside.
34:21Chris Bell coming into the draft out of Louisville was basically the A.J.
34:25Brown clone. And people were looking at Chris Bell like, oh my God.
34:29He's like this huge, powerful, fast, explosive athlete, physical at the catch point.
34:33And then he tore his ACL in December. And I think we were all a little caught off guard that this college
34:39player was going to basically rehab his ACL, miss a lot of time in training camp, and then start for the Dolphins.
34:46But the fact he's even playing right now speaks to his incredible recovery.
34:50And then he looks good in week three. Like that is obviously not normal for a rookie to tear his ACL in
34:57December and then like look good the first three weeks of the season.
35:01So part of me is just thinking like talent upside.
35:04The same reason I don't love Ollie Gordon as a big plotting running back on a shitty team.
35:09Chris Bell's probably going to get a lot of garbage time and they're going to try to get like, honestly, the Dolphins
35:16best offense is probably going to be yards after the catch for Chris Bell.
35:20So fuck it. Like it kind of wanted to bet on talent.
35:24I'll just do Chris Bell. There's a couple new reports on wide receiver injuries that we should mention that Ian Rappaport is tweeting about right now.
35:31Justin Jefferson, ankle sprain, avoided anything long-term, chance he plays Sunday.
35:35And then Mike Evans apparently is considered only day-to-day with a rib strain.
35:39So, well, that's good. Yeah. Mike Evans, I feel like is the kind of guy that we'd find out after this season.
35:45His organs were obliterated. Evans is going to be, he's going to leave every single game early this year, but he's also
35:52still going to put up over a thousand yards.
35:55It is. Yeah. When I like him versus Devante Adams, there's such different types of old receivers because Devante still looks like totally fine to me.
36:03Every time I watch Mike Evans, I'm like, I think his legs are going to fall off.
36:08Yeah. And yet he's great and he'll like catch a touchdown and look awesome.
36:12Dude, his touchdown on Sunday was insanely nice. Just the late hands.
36:16Nonchalant. Just let it fall in his lap. Such a veteran move.
36:19Yeah. But I'm always like, my God, I'm worried that his knee is going to snap in half on every play.
36:26Other name I'll throw out just if you're in a really deep league is Brandon Cooks.
36:30I think we'll play for the Niners at some point this year.
36:34And if you're in a very deep league, but that's if you're really struggling, but okay.
36:39There's no Kanata Mumfield love happening here right now for the Rams.
36:43You're going to get tested for that? The Kanata Mumfield?
36:46Okay. Kobe Myers for the Jags. I don't know.
36:48There's a few other guys that are like really risky, but it's potential there.
36:53Kobe Myers. He should pay for a big billboard.
36:55Kobe and Myers. They spent $58 million on billboards in LA.
36:59See him every time I go there. All right, Craig, is it time?
37:03It's time. I got Keenan Allen, man. Fantasy vampire.
37:05Are we doing him or doing Chris Bell? I'm taking Chris Bell.
37:09Because I'm just thinking of Keenan Allen. DK's taking Keenan.
37:12I'm taking Chris Bell. All right. Over the course of the whole season, like the odds that one of them is a difference maker.
37:19Keenan Allen is like, you know, you're surviving and Chris Bell has at least a chance for you to be thriving.
37:26Yeah. All right. Then it's time for the Chris Bell Showdown Time.
37:29Bring out a bell instead of a dog. Bring the bell for Chris.
37:33Yeah. This question's from Eli. Eli. Breakfast is a peanut butter and jelly on toast and a double, double coffee.
37:39I don't know what a double, double coffee is.
37:42Interesting. Double espresso? Is that a brand? Double espresso, double cream?
37:45I don't know. Double, double coffee. Oh, it's a coffee brand.
37:49Oh. It's a famous Canadian. Oh, it's from Tim Hortons?
37:52It's a Tim Hortons order. Famous Canadian coffee order, traditionally brewed with two portions of cream and two portions of sugar.
37:58Love it. Cool. Double, right. Double, double. Makes sense now.
38:01Okay. Eli's, oh no, PBJ on toast. How do you feel about peanut butter and jelly on toast?
38:06Sure. Yeah, why not? Okay. Because the peanut butter, if it heats up, it kind of gets melt, whatever.
38:12Eli says, my question is related to Tuesday's episode when Danny Kelly brought up the band Poison, and then you guys talked
38:19about Brett Michaels' dating show, Rock of Love. Right.
38:22And in one of our challenges, Brett had the ladies play in a four-on-four tackle football mud bowl.
38:27As he just ogled them from the sideline. Nope.
38:30Not on the sideline, DK. Oh, he got in there.
38:33Brett Michaels played quarterback for both teams. Boom 42!
38:36He was Flacco out there. Just a little bit longer.
38:39Mercenary. Jonathan. Hot route! And Brett Michaels, while his throwing mechanics needed some work, Brett threw a catchable ball.
38:44Oh. Okay. Brett also rocked a Steelers hat, so shout out to Craig for knowing that Brett Michaels was a Steelers fan.
38:51And shout out to Jess for winning MVP in this solo date with Brett.
38:55So Eli's trivia question. How many total touchdowns are scored in the Brett Michaels annual mud bowl game?
39:01Holy crap. Wow. Wait, is this from one of the seasons or what?
39:05Is this just a random game? I think it was one episode.
39:08I think he might have made up annual. It might have just been a one season.
39:13Yeah. How many seasons did the show even air?
39:16I don't know. I don't know. Good question. Three or four?
39:19I'm not sure. Five? Three seasons. Okay. So the question is how many total touchdowns happened in the total- In the single mud bowl that took place.
39:27In the one. The four-on-four football game. It was four-on-four and he was the quarterback.
39:32Okay. This is a great question. What do you guys think?
39:35I'm going to Google. Are Brett Michaels and Jeff still together?
39:39No. Ah. Huge shot. I guess that's why there were two more seasons of the show.
39:43Yeah. Yeah. All right. Whatever. I have an answer.
39:46How many touchdowns are scored in this game? Yeah.
39:49Three, two, one. Four. Eleven. I said five. Fuck.
39:52Oh, no. That's not true because I wrote it down.
39:55My answer was six. Okay. Okay. It's got to be low then.
39:58Hopefully. The answer is five. Ooh. Oh, you guys.
40:01So it's a tie. We have to go into a showdown tiebreaker.
40:05Well, Heifetz picked someone else than me, so we can just tie for first, I guess.
40:09Well, that's actually true. We could do for trivia purposes.
40:12For trivia purposes, we need a tiebreaker. All right.
40:15It's funny you say that. I actually do have another question.
40:19Okay. Do we just do another question right here?
40:21Yeah, but let's make it quick. Is it double or nothing?
40:25Sure. What do I get second if I lose this though?
40:28Do I just sit here and spectate? Go sit by yourself.
40:31We're talking. Craig, Craig. Actually, Craig's going to be pissed.
40:34Yeah, actually, Craig. Yeah, you don't get to this.
40:37Go watch Drew Allar, whatever highlights. This one's from Brian.
40:40Okay. Brian's breakfast. Sausage egg and cheese on an English muffin with chipotle mayo.
40:44Homemade yogurt with honey. Homemade? Wow. I'm glad Craig's not doing this one.
40:48Lauren Michaels holds the record for primetime Emmy Award nominations at 112.
40:52112 Emmy nominations for Lauren. How many times has Lauren won an Emmy of those 112 nominations?
40:57How many did Lauren win? No idea. Okay. Three, two, one.
41:00Five. Two. I talk. I wrote down two before.
41:03Okay. I wasn't really thinking about the game. I just could assume because he's asking it's low.
41:08Yeah. And I was wrong. The answer is 24.
41:11All right. Go, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Lauren. Disrespect Lauren like that.
41:15I just thought because he's asking you. I don't know.
41:18I overthink it. It does. It never wins. But yeah.
41:21Yeah. That's I was like, I just felt like, well, if it's zero, I would have heard this and one, I would have heard this.
41:28But I bet. Oh, they do. I don't know.
41:31Whatever, man. I overthought it. So DK. All right.
41:34I'll go. I'll I'll go with Keenan Allen and you guys then can.
41:38I'm taking. Like he's like the Kirkland ran Josh downs for my if the Dolphins sucked.
41:42Okay. Tight end. DK is your number one tight end dad.
41:46Kenyon Sadiq for the jets. The greatest tight end athlete we've ever seen.
41:50And guess what? It seems to be helping because he made an incredible touchdown in this game.
41:55He's now leading the jets and snaps at the tight end position.
41:58He ran 25 routes in this last game. I don't know.
42:02It just feels like he's coming on and he also had a touchdown last week on a, like a jet sweep type deal.
42:09So they're using him in the red zone. I don't know.
42:12Now's the time. I think now's the time to grab him and see how the usage goes.
42:17Cause right now he's not playing like a ton.
42:20He's 55% snaps. If that increases to 75%, it's kind of like the same deal with Dalton Kincaid.
42:25If he just plays a little bit more, he could be a huge hit at tight end.
42:31I agree. It's it's Sadiq. I mean, it's tight end.
42:34You're really, you're really scraping the bottom. Like I'm not adding Mike is sick.
42:38No, I'm not playing that game. Yeah. There's like the Rams tight ends.
42:42I, Terrence Ferguson, I would have recommended, but he seems like he's got a nasty ankle injury.
42:47It's so annoying that he sprains his ankle. And then Tyler Higby in that game gets 11 targets, eight catches, 62 yards in a touchdown.
42:54Or how about this? For that even more annoying the play before he hurt his ankle.
42:59He was wide open for a 40 yard touchdown.
43:02That Stafford missed. Just didn't see it, which never happens.
43:05Yeah. And again, it's like the first play of the game.
43:08It's whackable, but at least the, it's so fucking stupid.
43:11I, yeah. So Ferguson, if he plays, but you need Puka to not play.
43:16If Puka comes back at any point, then anyway, it's so annoying.
43:19So we're good on Sadiq. Yeah. It's Sadiq. But again, it's because AD Mitchell was out.
43:24So it's like, I think the answer is the truth is which of these guys is the number two receiver in their offense.
43:31So it's like Garrett Wilson. And then AD Mitchell's out.
43:34So it's Sadiq. If Puka is out, then it's like Ferguson and Ferguson gets hurt.
43:39It's Higby. The question I have is, is the answer Darren Waller for the Panthers?
43:43Cause it's Tedderro and McMillan. And now Jalen Coker's hurt.
43:46And we don't, I don't think, I believe we still don't have an update, but it looked not great.
43:52Right. We don't have an injury update, but part of me just wonders if the answer is Darren Waller is just the number two.
43:59Oh no, here we go. We just did. Yeah.
44:02So the Coker is question is a quad strain.
44:05Part of me is like Bryce young. If you ranked every tight, tight end by how much does their quarterback look to them when they're scrambling?
44:13I swear to God that like Darren Waller's third behind Kelsey and Brock Bowers, like Bryce Young's looking for Waller every time.
44:19But I do think he's just one of those guys that discourse touchdowns too.
44:24I know. And it's kind of like the game at tight end, but yeah.
44:28Rappaport reported that he Coker's questionable. There's a chance he plays.
44:31It's not a serious injury. It's a minor quad strain.
44:34So maybe he's out of the max. So I guess it's Sadiq.
44:38I guess Fergus got Ferguson's well here. Yeah. So Sadiq and Waller.
44:41And then Ferguson. To be honest, even if like 80 Mitchell's playing and Mason Taylor's on IR, I still kind of like
44:48Sadiq in the mix here as just like an athlete.
44:51Like it's, I feel like it's Garrett Wilson and then he's the most athletic, talented person of the rest, no matter who's playing for the jets.
44:59I'll probably go with Sadiq. Yeah, I'll go with Sadiq.
45:02All right. Fuck it. That means it's time for the Kenyan Sadiq.
45:06This is fun. Showdown time. It's fun to have a little buzzy tight end like this.
45:10It's first round pick. Yeah. I might. It's from David.
45:13I need tight end help in my ringer, in the ringer league.
45:17So I might go after Sadiq. Breakfast is two bacon and Gouda egg bites and some dried mango strips.
45:23And then one hour later, I do two air fried sweet potatoes.
45:27Okay. This is just kidding. That's. Oh, I was going to say.
45:30No, he's joking. That guy was a psycho. He says.
45:33Yeah. I'm like two. With it too sweet. Two sweet potatoes.
45:36Last week. You have no idea how much food two potatoes is.
45:40That guy was going to eat a potato with a fork and a knife.
45:44It'll take you an hour. It says Phil for a week.
45:48That one was from Dwayne. Dwayne from Los Angeles.
45:50Probably the rock. All right. So David writes the rock fat bear week is currently in season.
45:56Oh yeah. Excuse me. Fat bear fat bear week.
45:58Okay. The cat, my peninsula or whatever. Goddamn right.
46:01DK. I used to watch those live. You can watch them live.
46:05I don't know what that bear week is. It's these bears in Alaska, right on a river and they're just sitting out
46:11in the river and they have webcams set up, Craig.
46:14So you can just turn on a webcam and watch these pairs.
46:18They're streaming. They have a Twitch stream. The original stream pun intended.
46:22Yeah. Um, it's pretty fun actually. And then they, I think they determine who the fattest bear of them all is.
46:28Right. Yeah. They get, and you vote have a tournament.
46:31Yeah. Everyone votes on which bear has like, they all gain the most weight and then everyone, the internet votes and who's the fattest bear.
46:39Okay. So it's just great. You got to look through past winners.
46:42It's great. It's like American Idol for nature. It's fantastic.
46:45So anyway, so David writes, uh, last year's winner chunk junk.
46:49He's currently still in the running. According to this article, he found there was one live stream where chunk was fishing and
46:55a 45 salmon in 10 and a half hours.
46:58Holy hell. Jesus. Jesus. So David's question is 45, roughly how many calories did chunk consume in that 10 and a half
47:05hour session where he ate 45, 45, 45. How many grams of protein is that?
47:09That's I, so I already gave my answer. I took 30 seconds and I tried my best to figure this out.
47:16And I just kind of hit some back of the napkin.
47:19How many calories are, we're basically asking how many calories are in 45 salmon?
47:23Yeah. How many calories are in 45? I feel like I'm going to be orders of magnitude off on this, but that's fine.
47:30All right. Three, two, one, 75,000. Oh, okay. Wow.
47:33You guys are close. I wrote 200,000. Okay. Okay.
47:36What is it? The answer is 45 salmon, 45 salmon.
47:39The rough answer is 135,000. Oh, okay. So I think I am in last.
47:43What did you guys say? I said, I said 60.
47:46So I'm 60. What did you say? And Heifetz.
47:49I'm 65 away. 65 away. So I technically win.
47:51What's the protein. Yeah. How many grams of protein?
47:54Especially because the thing that I couldn't figure out, I was trying to like game out like the salmon portions.
48:00And I was like, how many are in there?
48:03And then I realized the thing, the row, that's what I couldn't figure out was the row.
48:08sure. You know what I mean? That's the other thing is like, as they go on, I feel like the bears don't eat the whole salmon.
48:16They just pick and choose their favorite. Well, have you seen the caviar?
48:20The tastiest morsels. Have you seen the videos of bears?
48:23Like how they like skin salmon? And then there's like, yeah.
48:26Well, they just stomp on it and get all the eggs out.
48:30Lick that up. Well, they do that, but they also like, they know how to pull the skin off of the fish, the scales off the fish.
48:38And then there's just like gross fish skin carcasses lying around.
48:41You see those? It's disgusting. No, I've not seen that.
48:44That's like Red Dead Redemption. You know, some people you could just like put, you know, shooting partridge or whatever, but you just got it ripped.
48:52For the birds. Meat right off the bird label, the feathers.
48:55You do not want to, they skin them alive.
48:58Like it is one of the more gruesome things I've ever seen.
49:02They pick up the salmon and they skin it alive.
49:05And then they eat it. Nature's metal. It's great.
49:08Nature is. So Craig gets Sadiq. Yeah. It's a big win.
49:11I don't want to get eaten. Anyway, I'm sorry.
49:14I was thinking about being skinned alive. Yeah, that would not be pleasant.
49:18Anyway. Yeah, I'll take Darren Waller. Fuck it. I'm just, no, I'm in a bad place.
49:22Okay. So, I mean, I guess I'll take season long is still intriguing, but I think Darren Waller is the answer.
49:29Yeah, I'll take Terrence Ferguson. Will Terry, Terry Ferg, Terry is tearing his ankle.
49:33Hopefully he's back. Low grade sprain. He's probably fine.
49:36I'll probably regret not taking the other guy to keep in mind here.
49:40I have it. Or Craig mentioned Gisicki. I think Yosavos and Colby Young are both now hurt.
49:45So that might mean we see more 12 personnel with the Bengals.
49:48And that might mean there, uh, Gisicki plays more.
49:51I think that's more of a, um, just like a stash type of deal than really feeling confident.
49:57Starting him every week. The other guy I think is worth playing is Michael Mayer with the Raiders.
50:02He's still a big part of their offense. Um, he ran 78% of the routes per team drop back this last week with Jack Besh got hurt.
50:10He broke his arm or something, broke his forearm.
50:13Um, so he may see the Raiders just might run a ton of two tight end sets and mayor is essentially going to be a tight end.
50:21They're number one tight end and Bowers is going to be their X receiver.
50:25So there's a chance that mayor is still useful.
50:28Um, but that you're kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel.
50:32That is, but the theme with all these tight ends is that teams.
50:36Now it's almost easier for them when they lose a receiver to just because of all the multiple tight end sets, they're
50:42running, move the production to a tight end. And so we're seeing that with a lot of these teams.
50:48Yeah. Yeah. And then Tyler Higbee too. If Terrence Ferguson's out, like maybe we should be mentioning Tyler Higbee if Puka is still out.
50:55Yeah. And then also probably not going to add him in fantasy, but recording this before Monday football, Zach Ertz is on the Eagles.
51:03Yeah. And I'm not saying you should add him, but like he was bizarrely productive last year.
51:08He hurt his knees like 36, not saying you should add him, but it is weird that Zach Ertz is back on the Eagles.
51:15So it's worth mentioning. Okay. Yeah. Uh, quarterbacks. If you need a quarterback, I think there's three that rise above the rest.
51:22Geno Smith who played great last week. He was the number three quarterback last week.
51:26321, 321 yards, three touchdowns. And now he's playing the bears.
51:30And unless the bears really shut down the Eagles, actually, even if they do, I don't care.
51:35Like the bears defense is fine. And Geno Smith will probably be good again.
51:39Marcus Mariota for Washington in London, playing the Colts defense.
51:42And I don't care what the Texans did. The Colts defense is still bad.
51:46And Marcus Mariota was spry and played really well against Seattle.
51:50And I think that Marcus Mariota adds enough on rushing.
51:53He had three touchdown passes, but if he can play, even with the safety issues that Seattle has, if he can play
51:59that well against Seattle, I think Marcus Mariota versus the Colts is a perfectly good option.
52:04And for honestly, he probably just above Geno for me.
52:07Like Marcus Mariota is like a perfectly good two week streamer till Jay and Daniels comes back.
52:12And then Sam Darnold, who was the number two quarterback in fantasy this week.
52:17We harped on the interceptions because, you know, it kind of him and Jadir and price kind of cost the Seahawks the
52:23win, but 379 yards, four touchdowns, two interceptions. Yeah.
52:26And he's playing the chargers who are obviously reeling.
52:29So, um, yeah, I think between Geno, Mariota and Darnold, there's actually really good quarterback streamers this week.
52:34Um, I would put Mario to first defense. Less good.
52:37I kind of think the top ones, the bills are playing the Patriots.
52:41Just hope for a Drake made meltdown. Once again.
52:44Yeah. Drake may, Drake, maybe Wentz. And just again, because I think with defense, the thing is like, they could give up
52:50a lot of points, but the point is to like, who could get a pick six or a tie.
52:56Who's could get a touchdown. Who could get a lot of sacks.
53:00I think the way Drake may is playing for sure.
53:03I also, I kind of, I'm looking at this Buccaneers Packers game.
53:07And I'm looking at a Bucs defense against green Bay.
53:10Whose offensive lines are disaster. And I'm also looking at green Bay whose defense is bad, but they're J.
53:15I mean, if Baker Mayfield and the dislocated thumb don't play this week, Jalen Daniels, who's an undrafted free agent, rookie playing in NFL defense.
53:23I don't care how bad the defense is. You're talking about like big play sacks, fumbles, interceptions.
53:28I think the Packers defense, I don't know if we'll say this again all season, but the Packers defense is probably like
53:35has a chance to be the number one defense of the week.
53:38Just because if Baker doesn't play. Yeah. Don't think Packers defense is rostered.
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54:27All right. Emails. Yeah. Craig, you asked for Brown's therapy.
54:30Yeah. How are we doing out there in Siberia?
54:33Has DK would put it. This one's from Dan.
54:35Dan. D bone. Dan writes, I'm a lifelong Brown's fan.
54:38I was seven when they came back in 1999.
54:41And I've watched, watched almost every Brown's game since 1999.
54:44Wow. And in that time I have seen 42 different starting quarterbacks, 13 different head coaches, 10 different general managers, five quarterbacks
54:51drafted in the first round and Owen 16 season, three playoff appearances, one playoff win beating the Steelers and seeing old sad.
54:57Big Ben was great, but it was during COVID.
55:00And then Craig basically Dan says, Craig nailed it with, is this Deshaun Watson playing really well and doing well for the Browns?
55:07The worst case scenario. And Dan says, yes. I was not expecting that.
55:11Okay. Dan says, going into the season, my friends and I talked about how worst case scenario would be Deshaun playing.
55:17Okay. To decent. And the Browns ending up like seven and 10 missing the playoffs, but missing out on a quarterback next year too.
55:25And here we are. The Browns have put the fans like me through hell ever since they came back.
55:30And it really felt like a cherry on top that with Deshaun, not only do they do a classic Browns move of
55:37picking and investing in some shitty quarterback, but also obviously a bad guy, no self-awareness.
55:42And he says, this really is going to just keep the cycle of sucking going.
55:46I hate them. Go Browns. Browns have the 18th pick in the draft right now.
55:51You know, that stinks. Where are the Rams? They do have the Rams.
55:55How many picks do they have? So they should probably hire the Rams.
55:59They have three firsts. That's really funny. Two firsts.
56:01The jets have three. The jets right now have picked six, eight and 10.
56:06Wow. I like doing that in three, three. That's yeah.
56:09It is actually really fun. Stop the count right now.
56:12The Texans have the first two picks. Text. Oh, dude.
56:15Arch to Houston. We, I did get another perspective here though.
56:18This is from Alex. A different Browns perspective. Alexander says, when you're in the desert, you need water.
56:23This is what, this is what I thought most people would say.
56:27He said, Alexander winning is fun to watch. You should take any water you can get.
56:32And that's what some positive vibes around the Browns feels like this season.
56:36They have two first round picks in the upcoming draft.
56:39No one knows what a good quarterback is. Anyways, look on Deshaun Watson.
56:43Specifically, the national media became a little too fixed on this preseason booze and the storyline where everyone's booing him.
56:49Yes. The entire Deshaun Watson thing has been a mess.
56:52Yes. We know about the contract and the draft picks and everything.
56:55And as a Browns fan, I much prefer my team taking big swings than putts around like the stupid Bengals or Steelers,
57:02which is a funny thing to read. And Craig's concern about Watson being too good this year also applies to Aaron Rodgers,
57:09who is my age and a vibes vampire. I agree completely.
57:12He says, as a Browns fan, we have many issues, but nothing, absolutely nothing would be better than beating the trashy Steelers at home.
57:19Seriously, nothing. Also, Nick Chubb retiring as a Brown last week cannot be overstated as having an impact on the win.
57:26It's just how you, it's just philosophical differences in how you're a fan.
57:30It's like short term versus long term thinking. It's like, it's just people think differently.
57:34One other email here. This is from anonymous attorney.
57:37Okay. Hey, who didn't want to include his name or her name because they were afraid of the lawyer they were writing about.
57:44Oh, my goodness. Breakfast is two air fried Costco egg white bites with sriracha and cold brew.
57:49Okay. That sounds good. A lot of eggs this morning for the gang.
57:53Air fried. A lot of air fryers out there.
57:56I know. I've never owned an air fryer. It's a big thing.
57:59I don't, I barely know what it is. It's like, well, there's, there's like a toaster oven style air fryer.
58:05And then there's like real air frying. I have one that says it's in your fire, but it's really like a toaster oven, but it's great.
58:13It's really, it is an excellent thing. Just crisps it up.
58:17That was kind of gross to me. Whenever I see somebody like pull out the plastic cartridge and they're just like dumping shit in there.
58:24It's like, you can put cut up pieces of raw salmon in there.
58:28They don't make salmon bites. I'm like, that's gross.
58:31Chunk. Chunk wishes he could. It's like, pour whatever you want in there and it'll cook it for you.
58:37Anonymous attorney writes in the Monday episode, you guys, or the Sunday night recap.
58:41He said, you guys brought up the widely known law firms in local areas and asked for emails.
58:46He says, I'm an attorney. And while I've never practiced personal injury law, I have some exposure to how these firms operate.
58:53These firms are not law firms. That is just not their focus.
58:57These are guerrilla marketing firms. They will not litigate.
58:59They will not litigate a case at trial. And if they refuse to take those cases, and if a case does go
59:06to trial, they will just refer that out to somebody else.
59:09These firms are some of the best case studies of marketing prowess that you could find in a local market.
59:15These like personal injury firms, they bring in as many leads as possible and then settle as fast as possible to get a payout.
59:23So these lawyers of these firms are essentially salesmen that draft up settlements as quick as possible.
59:28And it's an absolutely brilliant business operation, but also the fast food of law practice.
59:32And in San Diego, there's a firm that goes by attorney King and he drives a shiny gold Lamborghini around town and
59:39has marketing videos and projects with high-end streamers. And the entire San Diego County is plastered attorney King billboards.
59:45They're like influencers. Yeah, they're influencer lawyers. And so my favorite was, so I was going through and a lot of people have these influencer lawyers.
59:53My favorite one of which was someone emailed in about Jim Adler, who is known as the Texas hammer and always has
59:59a sledgehammer with him in all his ads. I think I've seen this.
60:03And he, yes, he had a segment on last week tonight because the Texas hammer sued the Alabama hammer.
60:09Can't have two hammers. There can be only one.
60:12There can be only one. I saw that. It was shit.
60:15It was shit. But yeah. And so not only is Jim Adler, the Texas, also you should Google the Texas hammer, the sledgehammers.
60:22He also was in a Mike judge movie apparently and was portrayed by Gene Simmons.
60:27Oh, wow. In a movie. Cool. But yeah, the Texas hammer.
60:30Yeah. This guy, this is exactly how I thought he looked.
60:33This looks like a Tim and Eric sketch. The guy on the left in this, in this billboard, it legitimately looks like Tim Heidecker.
60:40Are we sure it's not? He's got the biggest sledgehammer.
60:44Is that not one of the Tim and Eric guys on the left in like a wig and a makeup?
60:50He's got free real estate. It does look like that.
60:53Got a house for you, Jim. I love it.
60:55Injured wreck called Jim Adler. I love really efficient billboards.
60:58Dude, there's one in LA that I always see driving around.
61:02Yeah, dude, that looks like, yeah. There's a billboard I see all around LA and it always just, it's a giant billboard
61:08and all it says is cheated on question mark?
61:11STDtesting.org. Yes. And I'm like, man, that hits. That's efficient right there.
61:15You know what I mean? Like that, that cuts right through the noise.
61:19There should be a billboard for like draft. Did you draft Drake may called Jim Adler with the sledgehammer, the fantasy hammer.
61:25Do you guys ever drive by the ones about God?
61:28And then you kind of be like, maybe I should call the number.
61:32I've never, I know what you're talking about. You're calling God.
61:36No. Well, I don't think it's a direct line.
61:38Well, that's too bad. It could be. You don't know though until you try.
61:43Right. Right. The other law firm that I had to mention was, I'm going to redact all these people's names, but he
61:49says breakfast is cold brew protein shake, apple with peanut butter.
61:53In Charlotte, there is a law firm called Peniston and Deason.
61:56Okay. But it's, I mean, it's spelled Peniston. Right.
61:59P E N I S T O N. Like a ton of penis.
62:03It's like, that's like miss pistol. Yes, exactly. And the guy's name is Richard.
62:07So his advertising is literally Dick Peniston. Jesus. Okay.
62:10And it's on the spine of the phone book.
62:12Dick Peniston. I see him here. It's probably pronounced Peniston.
62:15Probably. He should just go by Peniston. If you wanted more marketing.
62:19If I wanted to really make a splash. Email us more good billboards.
62:23I want ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. I want more good billboards.
62:26Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam.
62:29Thank you, Nikhil. Thank you, Austin. Thank you for listening.
62:32Emails fantasy courts. Litigate, litigate your will litigate. We're the real lawyers here with judges.
62:37Jerry will fit. We'll litigate. What's going on in your group chat.
62:40Send us what you're arguing about. We'll hold a sledgehammer during.
62:44We should. Fantasy court. Thank you, Lord. Lord. 80s month.
62:47We're emmies. 80s month. My God. Final one. We are so close to the end of 80s month.
62:52I feel like we cannot leave 80s month without talking about fucking guns and roses.
62:57Welcome to the jungle, baby. Wow. You're going to die.
63:00At the beginning of the song, it's like, welcome to the jungle, baby.
63:04You're going to die. Just a great song. Iconic song.
63:07I think that's, according to Rolling Stone, one of the 500 greatest songs of all time.
63:12Yeah. Axl Rose slash. We can't get out of this month without talking about guns and roses.
63:17I love guitar. You're going to die. Now you're going to die.
63:20That's what Craig feels to drink, but you're going to die.
63:24You're going to die. Welcome to the jungle. Opening guitar really want to make sure you just run through a wall.
63:30The second you hear a very elite one second song challenge song.
63:34Yeah, true. This one's from 1987. Their album appetite for destruction.
63:37Just fucking badass. I almost did November rain. Do you guys know the song November rain?
63:42But then I realized it was in the early nineties was when they released it.
63:46No, I don't think I know it. November rain is also super iconic.
63:50Like from guns and roses. Yeah. Guns and roses is one of the most like glorious.
63:55They do this. Crazy. Outro solo. Where slash is just fucking going to town for like a full two minutes.
64:01It's fucking amazing. The only other big guns and roses song I know is sweet child of mine.
64:07Oh yeah. That's another good one. That's also the start.
64:10The beginning of that song is immediate, right? Immediately recognizable.
64:13In high school, we did this thing called lip sync where each class competes and you put on like a 10 minute
64:19kind of performance of like kind of like sketches and you're lip syncing to songs.
64:24And one of them we did my senior year was the scene from step brothers where Adam Scott is doing sweet child of mine in the car.
64:32Yeah. And I, I played Adam Scott. So I had to like get his exact lines down the singing and all his comments.
64:39And it was like the most fun I've ever had.
64:42It was the most fun I've ever had. It was so good.
64:46We were like on stage trying to drive and they like almost crash and then they stick to the song.
64:52It's great. Oh, that's good. Did you guys win?
64:55We did win. We were good. Of course. Of course.
64:58Nice. We put a lot of work into it.
65:00That was like the most fun I've ever had doing stuff like that.
65:04It's great. It is real. That is like really fun.
65:07Yeah. I'm still reading about Rick Penniston. I'm on his website.
65:11I'm going to tell us things about him. I love, I just love stuff like this.
65:15Here's this is on his website. On the personal side, Rick is celebrating 30 years of marriage to Jane and enjoying his children and grandchildren.
65:23Rick is a lifelong cowboy. He has competed in Western riding competitions since age nine.
65:28And he has won several world and national championships.
65:30He was recently inducted into the Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame.
65:34Whoa. Stop it. Not just the regular Cowboy Hall of Fame.
65:37Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame. He has won several world and national championships.
65:41I mean, with a name like Dick Peniston. Dick Penis did Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame.
65:46You got to be tough. What the fuck is the Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame?
65:50Wait, so there's a Cowboy Hall of Fame and then there's Extreme Cowboy Hall of Fame?
65:55Yeah. Don't tell Jerry Jones about that. What are the Extreme Cowboys doing differently?
65:59Craig Cameron, founder of the Extreme Cowboy Association and the original cowboy.
66:03Imagine naming yourself that, the original cowboy. OG cowboy.
66:06Who is Craig Cameron? Extreme Cowboy Racing. The Extreme Cowboy Association.
66:09What are they up to? What are they up to?
66:12If anyone can get us in touch with the Extreme Cowboy Association, please put us in touch at riggerfantasyfootball.gmail.com.
66:18Wait, now I'm on their website. Damn, this doesn't work.
66:21I kind of want to watch some Extreme Cowboy Racing.
66:24I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Where agility and greet meet horsemanship.
66:28Did you say greet? Oh, I did. I meant grit.
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