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0:15Week 2 Waiver Wire. We've got some good ones for you here.
0:19We got a rookie who just had the 10th most receiving yards in the last 20 years in week 1 for any rookie wide receiver.
0:26That's pretty cool. We've got Devaughn Vele. We've got, I think actually, uh, look, it might be fool's goal, but maybe a
0:33decent running backs week, which we don't always get here.
0:36And we've got Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg. I am Adam Azer.
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0:50and on YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today. Good morning, Dave.
0:53Yo! Good morning, Jamie! I love Ken Walker. Ha ha ha ha!
0:57Wow! Broncos couldn't tackle last night. They got, I told you it'd be a stomping.
1:01I told you. I was thinking about you the whole time with that.
1:05I think I can tell you now, uh, I made a bet.
1:09Um, not a, you know, not a big better, but I made a bet, uh, two team parlay.
1:14I was like, these two underdogs are definitely going to win.
1:17So we're going Packers money line and Broncos money line, and we are cashing in.
1:22So it's $10. I'm not getting back. Um, let's jump right into it.
1:26Top three waiver wire priorities. Jamie Eisenberg. Yeah. Devon Vela, you mentioned him, uh, strong start to the season.
1:31First game without Jordan Tyson. I don't know. They're going to have that many pass attempts on a weekly basis, but I
1:38think they're going to throw the ball a lot.
1:40I think it's gonna be one of the more fun offenses.
1:44So, uh, must add and potential must start as long as Tyson's out.
1:48Uh, Caleb Douglas will probably have a different dolphins receiver on a week to week basis.
1:52But for right now, he was the best one in week one.
1:56We'll see if Chris Bell gets going and if Malik Washington continues to lead them targets.
2:01Uh, but he should also be a must add.
2:03And then Kaylon Black, uh, you might be able to start him this week against the dolphins because the dolphins are bad.
2:10So, um, we know what his potential is if something happens to McCaffrey.
2:14And as we saw in week one, feels like they're going to use him quite a bit in tandem with McCaffrey.
2:20So potential flex play on a weekly basis. All right.
2:23We got Vela, Caleb Douglas and Kalen Black for Jamie.
2:26Dave, who are your, who are your top three priorities?
2:29I would sub out Caleb Douglas for the bucks DST.
2:32They're out there in a ton of leagues and they play Cleveland.
2:35And so I would rather have the DST rather than taking a chance on it.
2:40And Jamie said, we're going to be picking a different dolphins wide receiver for what it's worth.
2:45I did think Caleb Douglas is speed was a differentiator for him.
2:48Um, I, I just, I hated the fact that Malik Wills was just throwing it willy nilly 20 plus yards downfield in the second half.
2:56That was just odd to me. Uh, there are some people that are going to see Jalen Coker and Debo Samuel on
3:02the waiver wire in their shallow leagues. Yeah. Prioritize them Coker for sure.
3:06And Debo probably over Vela. That's a close call, but those guys should absolutely be rostered in 100% of leagues.
3:12Yeah. Matthew golden too. He had a 30% target share.
3:15He did run 25% of that. Matthew golden's routes were go routes, which is not a good route for fantasy.
3:21Um, so that's not great, but definitely some shallow league wide receivers that like, how would you, who's your favorite?
3:27Is it Coker's number one of the shallow? Number one.
3:30I mean, you don't have to ask me. Yeah.
3:33Yeah. Um, and then Debo or, um, golden. Uh, Ooh, I would take golden.
3:37I think I would too. What's his roster ship.
3:39It's pretty high. I don't know. He's less than Debo.
3:42He's 77 and Debo's 80. Okay. So I figured that golden was drafted more often than Debo, but sure.
3:48If golden's out there, you should take him ahead of Debo.
3:51I liked, I liked a lot of his role.
3:54The go routes obviously were a problem, but he was, he got peppered, uh, when, when they were chasing points and you could play a lot.
4:02If you're, if you're getting 12 goal route targets, I'm fine with that.
4:05You know, I guess that's okay. No, he wasn't getting 12 goal route targets.
4:10I know. I'm just saying you got 12 targets in the game.
4:13Like 12 targets is great. Yeah. 30% target share for a team that, that was very, very pass heavy.
4:19And, uh, I think I'd, I'd be remiss to not mention, um, Chris Brooks, you know, he didn't have a good game,
4:25but there wasn't really, he started, he played, I think the entire first possession trying to figure out this, the rotation there.
4:32I don't really think there was one except for Brooks on passing downs, but you know, you might really matter.
4:38Yeah. They, they, they combined for two targets, those two, but, um, Marshawn Lloyd, I didn't think did great in pass protection.
4:44One play he got, he got run over a little bit and ball got tipped and intercepted.
4:49Uh, I think Chris Brooks, this'll be a more telling game for the backfield.
4:53I mean, they're going to be able to run against the tight against the jets and you know, though we'll, we'll get
5:00an idea and hopefully we get an idea this week about Josh Jacobs and what his status is.
5:05So you know, what is the situation for the Packers backfield moving forward.
5:09All right. So you both said Vela and Kayla on black.
5:12Jamie said, Caleb Douglas and, uh, Tampa Bay DST for Dave.
5:16And I'll just, just to read a real quick here, the top 10 rookie wide receivers over the last 20 years in yards in week one.
5:23Did I say it? Does that make sense? Yep.
5:26Marquise Brown, Eddie Royal, Terry McLaurin, Puka Nakua, Alan Hearns, Will Fuller, Deshaun Jackson, Jamar Chase, AJ Brown, Caleb Douglas.
5:32Pretty good list. Yeah. Yeah. Funny you say Eddie Royal.
5:35I was, uh, taking one of my son's friends to basketball practice yesterday and he said Eddie Royal is his flag football coach.
5:42Oh really? He was wide receiver 12 per game as a rookie.
5:45Crazy. Uh, also a couple of things. You think if Davis Webb was calling plays for him, he would only give him two targets.
5:52Like he gave Jalen Waddle. Oh man. For first waiver wire weeks to just a few things.
5:57Jamie writes the waiver wire column and the threshold that we use for players that we say, Oh, go add these guys is 65% rostered or less.
6:05Uh, and we'll tell you about the shallow league guys too.
6:09And we'll tell you about the deep league guys a little bit later, but, um, um, 65% or less.
6:14Now, if you play on ESPN or Yahoo, a lot more 10 team leagues there.
6:19So the roster percentages are much different. I'd be curious to know what Jalen Coker will find.
6:24I'll find out for you in a minute. What Jalen Coker's roster percentages on ESPN and Yahoo, cause he's 70% rostered on CBS.
6:31So a lot of the guys that we talk about here is shallow league guys.
6:35If you play on the other websites might be available.
6:38I'm not sleepers kind of in the same boat.
6:41CBS, I think has, you know, more 12 team leagues and deeper leagues.
6:45How much fab are we spending Jamie on some of your favorites?
6:48Well, I mean, if we're going to factor in Coker and golden and some of those guys, then it changes the conversation
6:55because those guys are, I don't want to say break the bank, but they're more than 50%.
7:00Uh, certainly in the case of Coker, as long as his ankles.
7:03Okay. In the case of the guys that we're going to talk about, probably not much, you know, so I would spend
7:10maybe 10 or 15% on, on Vela, maybe at most 10% on Douglas.
7:14Kalen black is probably a 10 or 15% guy, depending on if you have McCaffrey or not, if you need running backs.
7:20The one thing about this week is that's a little tricky for, for fantasy managers.
7:25And there's some people that have multiple guys in this scenario is wide receiver got really beat up.
7:30And we have two guys that are must starts when healthy that we don't know their status yet in Latin McConkie and Zay flowers.
7:37So you tack that onto AJ Brown and, uh, there's John Stribbling and, you know, Jacoby lane is two as three guys
7:44that are going to miss significant time. Brown, clearly the one that you have to replace from a must start standpoint.
7:50So receiver is probably the one position that you may have to spend a little bit more than you want to, just
7:56to make sure you get the guy that you need.
7:59And Vela would be that guy just because of his roster percentage at 7%.
8:03So you could get into a little bit of a bidding war there.
8:07Um, otherwise I think the, the, the most spent fab guys will be probably Carson Wentz.
8:12And maybe if he's available, Michael Penix and then, um, drew lock, because we know super flex leagues to find quarterbacks is
8:19tough and Darnold could miss multiple weeks. We don't know the situation with, uh, with Kyler Murray and maybe Wentz keeps the job all season.
8:26If, uh, if the Vikings like what he does in week two.
8:29So I think those are the probably players you spend the most on.
8:33And, you know, Dave mentioned the bucks. That's a great DST to get.
8:37There are other ones out there also that have good matchups.
8:40So remember when you're streaming, you know, you don't want to overpay for just one week, especially if you're on one, people
8:47get a little nervous and they panic. Um, but those are, you know, good units, you know, good, good fantasy options to, uh, to spend some money on.
8:55Okay. So Dave, any, I'm sorry. And before I move on, any thoughts from you on fab this week?
9:01I would go even lower than 10 to 15% on most of these guys.
9:05Just save it up. Okay. Now looking at some roster percentages on the other websites here, you know, Jalen Coker is 60%
9:12on Yahoo, about 50% on ESPN, about 70% on CBS, Jordan love on ESPN or on, on just on Yahoo.
9:17Jordan love, I think was like 45%. No, that was ESPN.
9:21Whatever. It doesn't matter. He's available in a lot of leagues.
9:24That could be a guy that could really help you.
9:27I mean, he just scored 23 fantasy points against Minnesota.
9:30He is 68% rostered on Yahoo, but not even 42% rostered on ESPN.
9:34So there are some shallow league guys that, uh, I guess, I guess it would be, um, Coker, maybe Jordan love.
9:40I don't know if there's a running back that fits that mold.
9:44Um, no, there really wasn't any in the shallow leagues for us.
9:47Yeah. Okay. Well anyway, uh, Packers offense looked pretty damn pass heavy and that's exciting.
9:52We'll see what happens though. If Josh Jacobs comes back at some point, uh, some news and notes for you.
9:58Deshaun Watson likely to start. We got the Kyler Murray concussion.
10:01We don't yet know who Atlanta's quarterback is going to be.
10:04It could be, I guess I would say any of the three of them against Carolina this week.
10:09Travion Henderson. Did he officially practice yesterday? They didn't have to have a practice report yet.
10:14So it was basically he's going to be out there is what the reports were prior to practice.
10:19So, um, we'll see what they list him as, but I believe variable said he has a chance to play this week.
10:26Yeah. Okay. And they're playing Pittsburgh this week. Isaiah Pacheco is going to be out several months after back surgery.
10:32Jordan Mason has a sore thumb. If there's ever somebody who mushed a player with you, it was just your auction strategy.
10:38That's all it was. It was, I'm going to, I'm going to spend, I'm going to let everybody know that I want Isaiah Pacheco.
10:46And then you, the, the, the tweet yesterday, the post on X from Ian Rappaport was there is a body in his back.
10:52And I was thinking, is it Adam? I didn't want Isaiah Pacheco.
10:56I wanted to be her Gibbs. Jordan Mason has a sore thumb.
10:59So Aaron Jones could be a must start this week at Chicago.
11:03If Jordan Mason's out a Buffalo running back, Ty Johnson was listed as limited in practice.
11:08They're playing Thursday against Detroit. We were curious to see what this would mean for James Cook's passing totals.
11:13He did not run a single route on third down in week one.
11:17Jeremiah Love apparently was not on a snap count, which is not super encouraging in the short term.
11:23He gets Seattle this week. Dylan Samson is going to be out for a while.
11:27And Raheem Sanders was basically the third down back for Cleveland.
11:30AJ Brown, IR could be out for six weeks.
11:33Zay Flowers. We have great news on Zay Flowers.
11:36Doesn't seem like it's a big deal with the hamstring, hopefully playing this week against the saints and Jacoby Lane on the
11:42other hand does have a broken wrist. Unfortunately, Lad McConkie.
11:45We're still waiting to hear he has injured ribs and Brian Thomas Jr.
11:49is expected to play this week. Jalen Coker did sprain his ankle.
11:52We don't have to mention that if you want to put in some fab and he said he sprained it in the first quarter, right?
12:00He was in a walking boot. He expects to play.
12:03You should be fine. So, you know, good stuff.
12:06Um, Deshaun Stribbling could be out four weeks. Omar Cooper Jr.
12:09left for the Jets. Brock Bowers is day to day.
12:12They're calling him day to day. So keep that in mind.
12:15If you are thinking about picking up or starting Michael Mayer this week, Chigo Conquo, hamstring injury.
12:20Um, you've got Detroit. How many, you know, how much attrition can they afford on their offensive line?
12:25Offensive guard, Christian Mahogany may not play this week.
12:28I don't think he's going to play this week on the short week against Buffalo.
12:33Um, and then Landon Dickerson on IR for the Eagles who didn't do great upfront.
12:37I think, um, Jacob gave a stat on beyond the box score yesterday that Saquon Barkley, all but one of his rushing
12:43yards were after contact or something like that. Yes.
12:46Yes. I saw that. That's crazy. It's tough. Yeah.
12:49So, um, Landon Dickerson being on IR is not a good thing for them.
12:53He's a fantastic guard for the Ash and gente can relate.
12:56Yeah, exactly. And then I'd say the big defensive news, we don't know about Aaron Donald status this week.
13:02Um, Kansas city cornerback monster to lane had an interception and then he left in the first quarter and the Texans have two linebackers who are hurt.
13:10One an inside linebacker, one an outside linebacker and the Cowboys actually not the worst news for them with Malik hooker and Damari and overshone.
13:17They're not going to play this week unless overshow makes a miraculous recovery, but they don't have super long-term injuries.
13:23And then the jets have two defensive backs were banged up facing the Packers this week.
13:28Uh, let's go to our top three players at each position.
13:31So we'll give you a little sneak peek of the waiver wire and then we'll go more in depth later.
13:37Jamie, who are our top three quarterbacks this week?
13:40Top three quarterbacks this week are Jacoby Brissett, Bryce Young and Malik Willis.
13:44So for Brissett, you kind of know what you're getting.
13:47Um, 19 plus fantasy points in 10 of 11 starts last season.
13:50Uh, just shy of 19 fantasy points in week one, 37 pass attempts.
13:54They're going to be in most games, either chasing points or having to throw.
13:58I know Jeremiah love is going to get better.
14:01And the run game I thought was, you know, significantly better than what we saw a year ago, but we know what this defense is.
14:08And I think we're going to get some better offensive showings against them than what will happen with the chargers.
14:14Bryce Young, six of his last nine games going back to last year, he scored 20 or more fantasy points.
14:20And that kind of coincides with when Jalen Coker got healthy.
14:23So you get Coker on the field. Hopefully he's going to be okay.
14:27Bryce Young may be a better fantasy quarterback than we were giving him credit for coming into the season.
14:33And if this defense is as bad as it looked in week one, we may get 30 plus pass attempts for him as well.
14:40So, uh, not a sneak, not a bad sneaky option there.
14:43If you want to stash them on your bench and look Malik Willis did not play well against the Raiders.
14:49That was going to be one of his easier opponents for the season.
14:53That said 39 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown.
14:56He's going to give you those type of, he's going to give you the potential for those type of numbers on a weekly basis, certainly the yards.
15:04And so if he can cobble together two 20 and maybe one as opposed, or one-on-one or two 20, uh, and one
15:10without a turnover, uh, there's going to be some, some flaws in his game.
15:14Like Dave said, he's going to, you know, be under duress.
15:18He's not going to look good. The receiving core is still clearly a work in progress, but we love running quarterbacks.
15:24And so still the upside there for him, especially when they're chasing points so much like he's going to be doing.
15:30Okay. So again, it's Jacoby Brissette, Bryce Young, and Malik Willis.
15:33And I love Jamie pointing out that even in a, a, what we expect to be a rare win for the Cardinals.
15:40Maybe we're wrong. He still threw the ball so much.
15:43So that's very encouraging. And, um, you had a good game against Seattle last year.
15:47I don't know if Jamie mentioned that he did.
15:50And yeah, not only did he have a good game against Seattle last year, I think he scored the sixth most points
15:56of any quarterback against Seattle, including their playoff run.
15:59He scored the most fantasy points of any quarterback against Houston last year.
16:03He was just really good. Um, and then Bryce Young, man, I just can't, I can't shake it.
16:08He, he was so good that I'm wondering, you know, who to drop for him at, you know, which backup quarterback do
16:15I drop Bo Nix for Bryce Young? Uh, I mean, when we're talking backup quarterbacks, first off, check the buy week of
16:21your starter and see what is, is going on that week.
16:25Because if you like to match up for your backup or whoever's on the waiver wire, clearly that's the smartest thing to do.
16:31If you're dealing with, I think, a struggling starter, you know, so Justin Herbert, for example, I don't know who else like
16:38was, was a must-start guy that had a bad game that might be a little bit cause for panic just because her
16:44might not have his number one guy for a week or two.
16:48Um, then you might want to just take a chance on the quarterback with the most upside.
16:53And so, you know, if you're weighing Bryce Young versus Bo Nix, that's a, that's a fair comparison.
16:58So those would be the first things I would look for.
17:02Uh, I would much rather have Jordan Love than, than Bryce Young.
17:05But I think at this point, you could take a chance on Bryce Young over Bo Nix.
17:10Nix probably has a better season, but after week one, like there's reasons to be concerned and there's certainly reason to be encouraged by Young.
17:18When's his next tough matchup? Bryce Young. Look at his schedule and tell me when he's got a matchup where he's going to be under pressure.
17:25He's taking on a tough secondary. When, when do you see that?
17:29I think Philadelphia, I don't know what Cleveland is going to look like.
17:33They're week three, but Philadelphia is week six. Yeah.
17:35He also has early by week five. I do think part of the success that the Panthers had in week one had
17:42to do with the bears, not being able to get a lot of pressure on Bryce Young and their secondary.
17:48They have one great corner and their other corners got smashed.
17:51So I look at the schedule for Bryce Young and I'm encouraged.
17:55I just don't know when, when would I start Bryce Young in a one QB league and who am I going to start over?
18:02We talked about some of the names that were a little freaked out by, maybe you could pull it off there, but
18:08at least if you want to have the option, if you've got Justin Herbert, if you've got Drake may and you want
18:15to go and you want to pick up one of these quarterbacks and Bryce Young certainly should be an option just in
18:21case you want to have a plan B, if you get cold feet with plan A.
18:26Okay. Let's take a break here. Apex fuzzy just had the, or Fusey, whatever he said, had the best comment.
18:32Just don't carry a backup quarterback. Yeah. There's that.
18:35You could do that. Okay. We're going to take a break and come back.
18:39Dave's going to give us the top three running back priorities for you after this on fantasy football today.
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19:40We are back. All right, Dave, who are the top three running back priorities?
19:44I think Kalon Black makes sense as the top guy available just under our threshold.
19:4938% of CBS leagues. You'll find them available a little bit more often in those ESPN and Yahoo leagues.
19:54I would have Emmitt Johnson second. I don't really have a good third one.
19:59There's names like Devin Singletary, Taja Spears, Tyler Algier.
20:01Maybe if you want to go deeper, there's Katron Allen and Braylon Allen.
20:05Why not Tyler Algier? He had 17 carries. Because I don't know how that often that's going to be the case.
20:11I don't think it's going to stick. And so am I really going to start Tyler Algier anytime soon with the schedule that they've got?
20:19We've talked all off season about how tough their schedule is.
20:22Yeah, I, yeah, but so I would love to have Algier if I have Jeremiah love.
20:27Otherwise, he's going to take up a spot on my bench.
20:30I would almost think that Kalon Black is an upgrade.
20:33Here's a good anyway. I have Devin Singletary as my third favorite running back, but not married to it.
20:39Would you drop Jonathan Brooks for Kalon Black? Yes.
20:41I don't know. I don't know if I'm there.
20:44Dave, would you take a look at that avatar or whatever for Gabe or Eric?
20:48Eric! Okay. Jamie, you said you would drop Jonathan Brooks for Kalon?
20:52Yeah, I mean, I know it's one week and you don't want to panic after one week, but we're talking about the
20:58amount of work that they gave Kalon Black in their first game against the Rams.
21:03And he looked as good as he did. And then you have the, oh bleep, I won't say the word for you.
21:09Oh bleep, Christian McCaffrey gets hurt. I want that.
21:12Makes sense. Makes sense. Okay. So Kalon Black, Emmitt Johnson, Tyler Algier is a possibility.
21:17Tyler Algier is also the most rostered of all these guys.
21:20He's 65% rostered. If he were 66%, he'd be in a different discussion, I guess.
21:24Yes. And going back to the quarterbacks, for example, Tyler Suck is 66% rostered.
21:28Oh yeah, go get him. Tyler Algier, 42% rostered on ESPN and on Yahoo, Algier is 51% rostered.
21:34Okay. Wide receivers, Jamie, top three. Yeah, this is a lot of guys that you'll see in the column.
21:39I don't think we'll get to all of them today, but Vele would be the first one to go add just because of what he looked like.
21:47And again, going back to last season, 11.9 PPR points in now three of his last four games.
21:53We don't know when Jordan Tyson is going to be back.
21:56So I think Vele makes sense for what he looked like in week one against Detroit and going back to last year.
22:02Caleb Douglas, again, would be second for me. And a priority add just because the Dolphins receiving core right now is clearly
22:09a work in progress and we'll see how this goes.
22:12And then I have Trey Harris third, just because of the lad McConkie injury.
22:16You can put a Patriots guy here if you want.
22:19You could put a Texans guy here. You could put Trey Tucker still here.
22:23You know, there's just a lot of different options at wide receiver.
22:27Again, we'll show you the whole list if you want, but if McConkie's out, Harris is going to get a bigger role.
22:33And I think we'll see a much better chargers offense, especially taking on the Raiders this week.
22:38Dave, top three tight. It's a Devon Vele, Caleb Douglas, Trey Harris, or Jamie's top three waiver wire wide receivers.
22:44Before I get to tight ends, where do you have DeMario Douglas?
22:48Cause he he's in my top three for sure.
22:50Um, if, if I knew DeMario Douglas is going to have a better opportunity, uh, given the fact that the Patriots are
22:57so stubborn and still love Matt Collins. And I'm going to guess we're going to get a better Romeo Dobbs.
23:03Uh, Douglas is much further down the list. I would, I would, if, if I'm picking up and the way I wrote
23:09this in the column is I would love to see DeMario Douglas get more better, better targets, uh, little better opportunity.
23:16Um, Matt Collins has been just this, this guy that they love.
23:19He's one of these veterans that does all the right things.
23:22So, uh, Douglas is not the Patriots receiver. I would add first, if I need somebody from a floor standpoint.
23:28And let's put it this way. Let's say I needed a wide receiver to start this week.
23:33Cause you talked about it. Like there's a bunch of wide receivers that are banged up and people might be desperate or
23:40they're unhappy with, with the receivers that they had in their wide receivers.
23:44Three spot they lay is number one with a bullet.
23:47Douglas makes sense as the number two, but if we're, if we're trying to put a little, you're saying Caleb Douglas, not tomorrow.
23:54Oh yeah. Yes. I met Caleb Douglas. Thank you.
23:56Uh, it's early. Uh, tomorrow Douglas would be one of those receivers.
24:00I'd want to stash and see what happens for a week or two.
24:04And I think it's gotta be full PPR, but he's absolutely somebody that's on the list.
24:08Adam, I know you've talked in the past about like big opportunities for him, uh, last year when there was no Stefan digs on the field.
24:16I know that without AJ Brown on the field, he had the same target share as, as Matt Collins.
24:22It was 22%. Uh, in that quarter and a, and a half about, uh, against Seattle last week.
24:27And there've been good way back through training camp in, in new England.
24:31And I would imagine that he's still going to see a role.
24:34At least it's like a short area receiver, but he lost him a little bit more.
24:39And I don't, I can't rule out that he's not one of those guys that could be in the neighborhood of 11 PPR points.
24:46Yeah. I mean, that's what we're looking at here.
24:49Five catches for 20 yards. You'd expect more than 20 yards, but I feel like every year there's some period of time
24:56where we're excited about to Mario Douglas. But last year he had a 29.1% target per out run rate with when Stefan digs was not on the field.
25:04So they basically played the same position. So that wasn't really a good setup for pop Douglas.
25:09Now he doesn't have Stefan digs. Obviously doesn't have AJ Brown.
25:12I can certainly see the appeal, uh, but Dave, how about, you know, maybe Hunter Henry's on this list here.
25:18Who are your top three tight ends on the waiver wire?
25:21Uh, the only one that I really would care about would be Michael mayor.
25:25And that's under the assumption that Brock Bowers doesn't play.
25:28We don't know if that's going to happen. Um, I guess guys like Dalton Schultz, Pat Friermuth would make the list, but
25:35I'm not, I'm not too enthused about many tight ends.
25:38Jamie's got Schultz mayor Hunter Henry. I do think that you have to throw David Njoku in there right now with the McConkie injury.
25:45He's not far down low. Yeah. Yeah. So not, uh, not terrible options.
25:49I mean, mayor mayor was so disappointing in this game against Miami.
25:52Should we even go back to him? Again, seven targets on a, in a game where they're playing with a lead.
25:59We're not going to see that very often. I think for the Raiders now, depending on what you think of the chargers,
26:05that probably changes your mind a little bit, but his track record, small sample size going back to last year when Bowers has been out.
26:13And I'm happy that Kubiak said Bowers is day to day.
26:16I'm going to guess it's more week to week still.
26:19So I think mayor is, is a good short-term answer.
26:22I was encouraged by Dalton Schultz getting eight targets again against the bills defense that different personnel, but still very good against
26:28tight ends, at least in one game. So if he's going to continue to be second on the Texans and targets, it's
26:35going to be much like we saw last year.
26:37So for me, he's an easy add. If you need a tight end for this week, I'll give you one more.
26:44I'm going to look at a lot of bucks players in that matchup against Cleveland, but Kate Otten could potentially be low
26:50end lower than the guys that we've said, but maybe he can find the end zone.
26:55If you're really like streaming tight ends, looking for matchups, that's somebody that I'd look at.
27:00So before we get to DSTs and kickers and stuff, is there any player that you think might be a potential league
27:06winner on the waiver wire, or if that's too strong, then a put, you know, a must start a lot of times
27:13waiver wire, you're just looking for a guy that we can stream and good matchups, whatever must start guys rest of season.
27:19I'm not quite there with Valey, all those shallow guys, like the two that make the most sense to me are Coker
27:26and Shuck, but they're already rostered pretty highly in a lot of the leagues that we have at CBS.
27:31But if they're out there in your league, absolutely go and get them.
27:35They could be those guys. And obviously Kaylon Black has some huge contingency upside.
27:39What about Caleb Douglas? I don't, I don't think you need to be there yet or should be thinking that yet because
27:46as Chris Bell gets healthier, he could take a bigger target share and have a bigger opportunity.
27:51I think, you know, you heard me say there's plenty leading into week one, like Chris Bell was somebody I wanted to stash.
27:58Like you can easily pivot from Bell to Douglas now because Douglas was the one at the start of training camp to look awesome before Bell was cleared.
28:06Douglas looked awesome in week one. Douglas joined a pretty impressive list as you alluded to Adam with the Ricky wide receivers to have week one performances.
28:14So that's an easy move to make, but to say league winner now, it's probably a little bit too soon.
28:20And you might be rotating that Dolphins wide receiver on and off the waiver wire all year.
28:25I know he looked, he looked pretty good in the preseason.
28:28I agree. He looked good against the Raiders. I think he's, I think Caleb Douglas might just be a, a steal that
28:35we all thought was like, like kind of like stripling, but around later, you know, that we thought it was a reach, but he's actually a good player.
28:43You're not, you're not wrong. And you know, again, I trust his evaluations a lot.
28:48Pete Prisco said post draft, everybody's excited about Bell.
28:50I like Douglas better and you got a chance to see why, like the, the, the sideline catch that he had where
28:57it looked like it was out of bounds at first, he dragged his right toe as he's catching the ball.
29:03Like that, that's, that's a veteran play. You know, like you, you see type those types of things.
29:08Like he's going to, I think they have a good nucleus, you know?
29:12So when they get the quarterback, right, fix some offensive line stuff still, uh, they're going to be in a good spot.
29:18Right. Then the quarterback is part of the problem.
29:21That was not a good game for Malik Willis throwing downfield.
29:24And speaking of downfield, I don't love this for Caleb Douglas and it was only one game, but he did have a very high average route depth.
29:32So so did everybody for Miami, like even Malik Washington had a crazy high.
29:37Oh, okay. Okay. It's probably, or at least a dot.
29:39I'm not sure about route depth. Yeah. But that's somebody too.
29:43Like we, we talk about receivers that might be able to get you 10 PPR points.
29:47I think Malik Washington can still do that. Even if Caleb Douglas continues on the role that he's on.
29:53Do you think Jordan love and Matthew golden are potential must starts going forward?
29:57Who was the first name? Jordan love Jordan love.
30:00Oh, I mean, you know how I felt about this when Jacobs was, was injured Jordan love when he averages over 30
30:06past attempts per game, when he throws over 30 past attempts per game is typically a 23 point per game quarterback.
30:13That's what he averaged in his career. So if you give him those chances and you give him those opportunities, he's going to reward you.
30:20And so when Jacobs comes back, we don't know what that timeline is.
30:24That might change, but I thought Jordan love played really well.
30:27The interception was off a tip. His offensive line fell apart almost immediately after they took the points off the board.
30:33So take that into account. That's still a really good Minnesota defense that he was carving up to start the game.
30:40I don't know. I'm, I'm very encouraged. And we saw, didn't see the best of Jaden Reed.
30:45Didn't see the best of Tucker craft. We might've seen the best of Matthew golden and Christian Watson looks like a monster, you know?
30:52So like, this could be a really fun passing game.
30:55I'm not sure that this run game will ever be on track this year.
30:59And that's enough for me to certainly roster and have optimism for both love and golden.
31:04I don't know if I'm ready to say that either one will be a league winner.
31:08However, we talked a little bit on Sunday about the contingency upside with Valey.
31:13Let's mention that again, real quick Valey right now, clearly the number two wide receiver in new Orleans.
31:18We saw Chris Olave leave the field a bunch of times.
31:21We don't know when Jordan Tyson will be back.
31:24We don't know how effective Jordan Tyson will be or how long it will take him.
31:29So there's some huge contingency upside with Devon Valey.
31:31We know that Christian Watson is not exactly the man with perfect health.
31:35And if he were to miss time, who's the number one wide receiver for green Bay.
31:40So there's some huge contingency upside for a guy that just had double digit targets.
31:44So go, I think I'd probably lean closer to golden than love as being one of those league winner types that you're talking about.
31:51Acer. One last guy here for shallower leagues, or if you're playing a Yahoo, he's 49% rostered Debo Samuel had six catches for 48 yards and a touchdown.
32:00He also had a 12 yard carry. And is this a guy that's a massive priority?
32:04If you see him on the waiver wire Debo Samuel.
32:07Yeah. I mean, striplings out for probably a month, if not more.
32:11And Mike Evans was banged up a lot in camp.
32:14So we saw it last year with Debo. He got off to a great start with Washington, you know, and there's still
32:20the potential for him to be good. You take the touchdown away.
32:24It's not a great game, but you know, I think you see what the 49ers are again, another great offense as, as
32:30they continue to show in week one. So as long as Debo is healthy, I think he's going to be in play
32:37as at least a number three receiver. Yeah. He's me.
32:40And then Arizona next two weeks, he's given me like, uh, Keenan Allen vibes in the sense that he might, he might
32:46mess things up for George Kittle or Evans or something like that.
32:50He's, he's not a bad player and he's going to get his targets.
32:54That's, it's a lot of, that's a lot of mouse to feed in San Francisco.
32:58Thankfully, they're going to score a ton of points.
33:01Okay. So we've given you our top three at each of the four major positions here.
33:06We're going to give you DST kicker. Um, also going to recap last night's game, but right now it is time for coverage.
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33:25And remember nationwide is on your side, Jamie, who's the DST that should be on our side this week.
33:31Yeah. Dave mentioned the bucks. I'm going to do, uh, I'm going to go a different route and I'm going to go to 49ers.
33:38Uh, Dave just said why, because they get the dolphins and the Cardinals and back-to-back weeks.
33:43And while the bucks matchup is absolutely amazing this week against Cleveland, you might have a starting DST for the rest of
33:49the season with what they just did against the Rams, knowing that it boasts us healthy Warner's healthy.
33:55Like that's a difference making group. And so if I can get them for the rest of the season, plus, Oh, Hey,
34:01they're taking on Malik Willis this week. And then I know that the Cardinals offense looked great, but Jacoby Brissett can at
34:08times as career as we've seen get turnover prone.
34:10So I'm going to take the 49ers from a short-term and long-term approach.
34:14And I think that's the DST you go target first.
34:17And the Niners DST is only 19% rostered. The bucks DST is only 12% rostered.
34:22So you do have some options there. And that was coverage.
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34:41All right, Jamie, now the kickers who we got.
34:43Yeah, it's always a great week for kickers. So let me get the right list for you.
34:48So Cairo Santos, I think he's definitely in the conversation taking on the Vikings, Tyler loop taking on the saints, Tyler bass
34:55taking on the lions and trace Mac taking on the jets.
34:58Love it. Make those kicker moves. Yeah. A lot of extra points coming for Cairo Santos this season.
35:03Or just eliminate kickers from your league. I could do that too.
35:07We'll be right back on fantasy football today with the rest of the show.
35:11Be right back. A couple of quick stats for you here before we talk about shallow leagues and deep leagues, although I
35:18think we've covered much of the shallow leagues, watching the tape of the Packers running backs.
35:22Brooks' personal opinion was even the yards, even though the yards per carry didn't reflect it.
35:27I thought Lloyd ran better than Brooks, but neither guy was really able to break any tackles.
35:32And that was a huge issue for them. And I looked on true media and they were both given one avoided tackle.
35:39And if they broke a tackle, I'm pretty sure that would count as an avoided tackle.
35:43They were both given one. It's not a huge deal.
35:46You know, like Kyron Williams didn't have any, but, um, um, Marshawn Lloyd won and won for Chris Brooks.
35:52Kenneth Walker, how many avoided tackles was he credited with last night?
35:56What do you think? A billion, 14, 14, B.
35:58John Robinson, 10, Jameer Gibbs, 10, Saquon Barkley, seven was impressive.
36:02Um, Basial tootin seven, but 14 for Ken Walker, man, what a freaking game for him.
36:06Um, and we'll get to that in just a moment.
36:09Jamie, I think we covered the shallow leagues quite a bit with Jalen Coker and the Packers guys that we mentioned and, and, uh, Debo Samuel.
36:17Is there anyone I'm missing here? Jawan Johnson, uh, 76% roster.
36:20So right around the same as, as Matthew golden.
36:23I think if he's out there in a 10 team league, knowing that no Jordan Tyson, the fact that this team is
36:29going to throw the ball a lot and have some success, you know, you'd like to see more than three catches on
36:36seven targets, but touchdown catch was great. And he's going to be one of the go-to guys for, uh, for Kellen Moore and for Tyler shock.
36:44So he's an easy one. I'm trying to think anybody else.
36:47Um, the running backs really weren't anything exciting. So I think you're just looking at if you can find Jalen Coker, if
36:53you can find Matthew golden, if you can find Tyler shock, if you can find Jordan loves, like those are league winning type of guys.
37:01You like shocker love better. I like shock better, but they're both close.
37:05Like they were both close to my preseason rankings.
37:07Also, was this the highest scoring week one ever?
37:10I believe it was the highest scoring week one since like 2000, something like 10 plus years.
37:15So it's hard to find a deep, a matchup right now that looks like, Oh, you don't want to start guys against
37:22this, you know, this team, maybe Seattle. Um, but I'm sure there are going to be some, but I was pretty impressed with Baltimore.
37:29So I just, I want to see what new Orleans can do against the Ravens.
37:33I thought, you know, it was a little disappointing that the new Orleans took them so long to get going on Sunday
37:40against that lions defense that we thought would be kind of a layup.
37:43Baltimore played pretty well after the first drive against the Colts in the game of the week.
37:48And, uh, I'm not saying to sit them. I'm just saying it.
37:52I wouldn't be shocked if they took a step back in, uh, in week two Ravens looked pretty damn good defensively, but
37:59just, just kind of like on my radar defense, not a lot of defenses look good on Sunday.
38:04Let's just say that chiefs look great. I thought a lot of the offenses that didn't look good, especially early on where
38:10the offenses that weren't on the field during the preseason.
38:13And I wonder if that's going to be a talking point in about 10 months that all the lions got off to
38:20a slow start and the saints got off to a slow start.
38:23And those teams, I don't think they're off. Yeah.
38:26The Rams are obviously in that, but they never put their guys out there and boy, did, did Stafford take a while to even look remotely good?
38:34So there's, there's that. And I wonder if maybe now that a lot of these offenses have played a game, every offense has played a game.
38:42Some have played more than one because of the preseason.
38:45Um, I don't mean a whole game, you know what I mean?
38:48Like Denver, Denver got on the field during the preseason and they look great in the preseason.
38:53So I guess there's always the, the case of an offense that does through the preseason and then sucks when they go
39:00out and play in a real game. You had, you had a few defenses that were good last year that looked good.
39:06Week one Jaguars played a JV team. So take that into account, but their defense looked good.
39:11Um, the Patriots defense, you know, I know they lost the game and everybody's panicked about Drake may, but their defense still
39:18played well against the Seahawks and they should do well against the Steelers this week.
39:22Um, the 49ers give them credit for what they did to the Rams and two easy matchups coming up.
39:28And I think just one defense that's going to be dramatically different is the Bengals.
39:33And they looked really good against Tampa Bay, you know, four turnovers and, you know, really limited that passing game.
39:38I think Baker's going to bounce back in a big way, taking on his former team, but that defense could be one
39:45of the ones that we don't say that's a layup because I don't think that's going to be the case anymore.
39:51And I think if you just look at Bucky Irving's yards per carry and you're going, well, this run defense hasn't gotten any better.
39:58That's when we got to watch the tape because I thought Bucky Irving had one of the best games of any, but I haven't watched everything.
40:06Obviously I haven't watched that much, but of all the players I've seen, I thought Bucky Irving looked better than just about anyone.
40:13He was so good and they were getting in the backfield and he was just making a miss.
40:18So I actually curious to see what David Montgomery does this week.
40:22Cause I think Cincinnati's run defense, this guy who had what, like 18 carries for 60 yards or something like that.
40:28Dave Montgomery, 21st work in the passing game and I hated the fumble.
40:32What'd you say? The fumble. Loved his work in the passing game.
40:35Just hated the fumble. Um, yeah, but I think could be a tough matchup against the Cincinnati Bengals.
40:41Agreed. Yeah. Okay. Uh, Dave, what are we talking about?
40:44Tyler's shock and Jordan left. None of these guys are available in my league.
40:48Who are the deeply guys that we need to be looking at here at quarterback?
40:52I think the list starts and ends with Carson Wentz who's available in 99% of leagues.
40:57I'm sure you can make the case for Bryce young who's available in 78% of leagues.
41:02I think I'd rather have young than Wentz just because of the schedule coming up.
41:06And we don't know if Wentz is going to be the rest of season starter.
41:11I'm thinking more about those super flex leagues. And in those leagues, Bryce young's already rostered.
41:15And so it just goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
41:19Like how badly do you want to carry a second quarterback?
41:22And then if you that's, if you can't get your hands on Tyler shock, that's where young would make sense.
41:28Wentz makes sense. Malik Willis makes sense, but Willis is already rostered in too many leagues.
41:33The only running back that I think is where the darn, that's going to be available in a lot of leagues is Devin Singletary.
41:40And when I say worth a darn, I mean like seven PPR points, it's not a lot, but he's got a role
41:47as the passing downs guy for the New York giants.
41:50And if the game script goes wrong for the giants, you'll see him on the field more than scadaboo well into the
41:56second half, a couple of other names of running backs that you could stash Katron Allen got some playing time after Jacoby,
42:03Crosby, Jacory crossing merit had a fumble late against Philadelphia.
42:06You might want to stash him and just see what happens there.
42:09You mentioned Chris Brooks. Maybe that's about it. There, there aren't a lot of other running backs that I would look at
42:16and say, Oh, deeply go ahead and stash them wide receivers where I think we've got some, some rich deeply guys.
42:22And we talked about a lot of them already.
42:25Valey, of course, Demario Douglas is up there, Caleb Douglas, 28% rostered.
42:28So he would go ahead of Demario. And then we haven't talked about Kalief Raymond.
42:33I loved his role in this offense. I hated what it meant for Luther burden for Colson Loveland, for Romo duns.
42:39A, but this like small shifty underneath target check down guy for Caleb Williams on the occasions where Williams was pressured.
42:45I, I loved it for him and I don't know if it's sustainable.
42:49We don't want to believe that it's sustainable, but I wonder if he should be included in that group of wide receivers
42:56where yeah, maybe 10 PPR points per game is a possibility.
42:59It would have to be a deep league. He's 1% rostered on CBS.
43:03So he's available everywhere, but he's somebody in a shallow league.
43:06If you can't get your hands on some of these are a deeply rather, you can't get your hands on these other guys.
43:13Maybe you don't even put in the waiver claim for him, but you see him at the top of the free agent list on Thursday and Friday.
43:21You could potentially add them if PPR matters in your league.
43:24That's a Khalif Raymond. I honestly think everybody hates Raymond right now and a Kendrick Bourne is basically the, uh, the same
43:31player for Arizona as it is for Chicago. Right.
43:33Two guys that we're rooting hard against who might still get a lot of targets.
43:38I might even buy into Bourne a little bit more than, than Raymond, but both of them are serving that same role.
43:44You know, they, the bears, they, I'm sure they ran a lot of snaps in this game, but, um, 21, two wide
43:51receiver sets and Jada Walker played 14 snaps there.
43:53It ran seven routes, Luther bird in 13. Oh, do you keep in mind burden missed a lot of time in camp with the groin injury.
44:01Oh, do you say it was questionable going into the week, right?
44:05Like injury. Yeah. Like their, their numbers should get dramatically better.
44:08Right. Right. At least I hope they get dramatically better burdens more.
44:11So I'm a little worried about a doon say, not getting what it was like 50% of the routes, something like that.
44:18Yeah. He played 50% of the snaps. Basically. I think that's pretty injury related.
44:22I would, I would, I would hope have to think.
44:25Uh, okay. I got a couple more deeply guys just based on two things.
44:29One last night, Pat Bryant, you heard a lot about what he was doing in camp and I know it came at
44:36the expense of both Waddle and Sutton. So just keep that in mind, but still look decent at times.
44:41And then again, there's an injury and he scored a touchdown.
44:45Um, DeMarcus Robinson is a guy that the 49ers love 7% rostered right now.
44:49He's going to get an opportunity. He played a lot in that game and you have older receivers there.
44:54I know he's not young himself, but you have older receivers there.
44:58Also Denver 31, Kansas city 31, Denver 10. Whoops.
45:01Wishful thinking, I guess. Um, I saw a stat on ESPN that Patrick Mahomes ran faster in this game than he did at any point last season.
45:09Amazing. Modern medicine is really incredible. I mean, George Kittle back out on the field for week one, Patrick Mahomes doing that.
45:15And he only threw for 184 yards, 27 passes, but he had a very good fantasy game.
45:20Yeah. The, uh, the touchdown to walk the passing touchdown to Walker is, uh, was fun and you got lucky fantasy wise with that one.
45:28Yeah. I think the chief's offense, the chief's passing game was the same crap we've seen for the last two plus years,
45:34but they didn't need to do much. You know, they're very conservative and they just ran every ran all over the Broncos.
45:41Just a weird game. Uh, unpredictable, I guess I was what I'd say, but Jamie, I don't know if it's weird or unpredictable.
45:47So a little surprising that the Broncos forgot how to tackle for the, well, they forgot how to tackle.
45:53They, how many six, eight carries for JK Dobbins.
45:56Uh, how many targets for Jalen Waddle to three targets, one cat.
45:59I'm thinking about this more from Kansas city's perspective on offense.
46:03Like what was the whole thesis of why Kenneth Walker was a good pick in the first place?
46:08They wanted to run the ball more. And here was a game where they realized pretty early on that they'd be able to run the ball effectively.
46:16And so they just leaned into Walker like Seattle rarely did outside of the playoffs last year.
46:21And man, he, he looked fantastic. He did. Are we worried?
46:24Are we more worried about Rasheed Rice who had a touchdown, but two targets or Jalen Waddle?
46:29There were missed tackles on that touchdown too. I do not.
46:32I'm not encouraged by this passing game at all.
46:35And there's going to come there. There will come a game where Kenneth Walker isn't averaging seven and a half yards per
46:42carry and a defense will be able to make some tackles.
46:45And I don't know if this is going to be, if those will be times where this passing game will suddenly like,
46:51you know, rear its head and and, and be effective downfield.
46:55I think it's kind of the same sort of story, like you said, with the passing game.
47:00And so they better hope they run the ball well more weeks than not.
47:04So it's first game back for him off of a bad injury.
47:07It's still a very good pass defense for the Broncos.
47:10It was an amazing running attack for the chiefs.
47:13I don't think you should panic on rice yet.
47:16And now that you see how the chiefs may want to operate, which plays into Andy Reed's hands and patch from home's hands.
47:23And so they start to see more loaded fronts that opens things up a little bit more down the field.
47:29They need to get some better play from their receiving core, not named rushy rice.
47:33Xavier worthy did not look good again. I was surprised that there wasn't a little bit more Cyrus Allen, just to take
47:39some opportunities with it and a couple of shots down the field to take one Thornton.
47:44But again, you are playing one of the best pass defenses in the NFL.
47:48So on top of the score and game script, like they didn't have to, plus you had just a turnover fest for
47:55Bo Nix and a defense that could be awesome because there's a lot of young players there, but maybe played a little
48:01bit over its head as well in terms of the chiefs.
48:05So we could get a little bit more shootout potential from this team moving forward.
48:09So I wouldn't necessarily panic about them and I wouldn't panic about Waddle either.
48:13Like my guess is Sean Payton's going to look at this and say, that was fun.
48:18Congratulations, Davis. Well, that wasn't fun. Congratulations, Davis Webb.
48:21You had your opportunity and you blew it. And so he's going to take over play calling duties next.
48:26I don't think he's going to do it now.
48:29I would not be shocked if he does it now.
48:32Like that was awful. Like you can't go out there and say, I told my wife to draft Jalen Waddle in her fantasy league.
48:39And then the guy that you handed the play calling duties does not let Jalen Waddle touch the ball enough.
48:45He had a bad drop. Take that into account.
48:48Yeah, it could have been. This was supposed to be a weakness of the chiefs.
48:52And then you lose what could be their best corner for the majority of the game after an interception.
48:58And they don't give opportunities down the field. Bo Nix looked awful.
49:01Look, he, you know, fumbled a couple fumbles that didn't count.
49:05Uh, the interception was bad. So I think we're going to get a better Denver offense moving forward.
49:10That being said, there is a little bit concerned with Jalen Waddle because this is what we saw last year from this
49:16team was spreading the ball out and Evan Ingram looked decent and Pat Bryant looked decent and they're still got to get Corlin Sutton involved.
49:24It's not like he's going to also just continue to be a non-factor.
49:28So this was my fear about Jalen Waddle. I'm not panicked yet, but they have to just look better.
49:33Like this just looked absolutely awful. And so I talk it up to week one, bad team on the road.
49:39Great Kansas city performance across the board. Kansas city came after Bo Nix's head from the jump.
49:44Like their, their pass rush was all over the place and they really hammered the center.
49:49Like they were coming right at them through the a gaps.
49:52And that made it really, really hard on Bo Nix.
49:55And you better believe that Jacksonville next week. We'll probably try and emulate that.
49:59I thought Waddle still was fast. So it was elusive was separating.
50:03He was double teamed by my count twice. Uh, I, I think he's a great by low candidate because there are going
50:09to be people who are freaking out over this game.
50:12One counter to that one counter for Denver in general.
50:15Yeah. Cause I was, yeah, like they should bounce back.
50:18Jacksonville Rams 49ers chargers Seahawks. That's our next five games.
50:21It's not, it's not good, but maybe, maybe, um, maybe I'm wrong, but on paper, Jacksonville Rams 49ers chargers Seahawks.
50:27It's not a favorable schedule at all. Maybe now is not the time to buy low, but maybe, I don't know, just, just a counter.
50:35That's fine. The buy low window is going to be open until he has a huge game.
50:40I don't know if the huge game is going to come next week, but it's going to come soon.
50:45And the only matchup there that really scares me is the Seattle matchup.
50:49Cause we know he's going to get the Rams without miles Garrett.
50:53Yes. Okay. That's it for Denver 31 and Kansas city 10 moron who were worried about who was buying, who were selling.
50:59Moron is a good way to put it. Uh, tomorrow I can't blame the whole thing.
51:04It's not like, uh, Davis Webb was out there throwing passes.
51:07You know, it's obviously Bo Nix did not know, but you've had paid Manning out there throwing passes.
51:13That offensive line did him no favor. It's a, if you like, you know, you never want to just read body language
51:19or facial expressions, but that's a guy that used to calling plays and having success doing it.
51:24And he tried something different and he looked like he wanted to kill somebody.
51:28And, and then you make this huge investment in this receiver and you don't give him chances on a nationally televised game
51:35in a game where you're trailing the majority of it.
51:38Bo Nix, you know, maybe the ankle is still a problem.
51:41I don't think so. But you know, offensive line is as, as we alluded to was bad chiefs defense again, I think
51:48played maybe a little bit over its head, but it could be, could be great.
51:52You know, it's just spags again. So a lot of just different moving parts here.
51:56But to me, when I looked at Sean Payton and like just watching it and then like, it almost felt, you know,
52:03you know, you don't know what he's looking at when the cameras focus on him and he's just looking to his left, his right.
52:10Like it's like, it's like, he's just a death stare at Davis Webb.
52:14Like, what are you doing? I wouldn't want to work for Sean Payton.
52:18I'm just going to throw that out there. Let's get the drop-o meter out here.
52:22Zero to 10 on the drop-o meter. Josh Downs.
52:25Three. Yeah, I would say two. I want to see what Alec Pierce's wrist looks.
52:29Is this also the overreaction o-meter? Well, it could be, but you know, Josh Downs, he gets to chiefs in the Texans
52:36the next two weeks and he's, you know, he's got this Keenan Allen problem, but fair enough.
52:41Uh, Rashid Shahid. 11, 50 billion. Jonathan Brooks. Uh, two.
52:44Carnell Tate. Two. Three. Wondale Robinson. Three. Two. 10 and non PPR.
52:47Four and full PPR. How many of those guys would you drop for Jalen Coker?
52:52Josh Downs, Shahid, Jonathan Brooks, Carnell Tate, Wondale Robinson.
52:55Yeah. If they're the worst player on my team, they can all be cut for Coker.
52:59All right. Quarterback waiver wire. A lot of this will be repetitive, but just so we don't miss anything, check to see
53:06if Jordan Love and Tyler Shuck are available. Um, and then Jamie's waiver wire priority was Jacoby Brissett.
53:11Number one, not necessarily. This is kind of season long here.
53:14We're still going, not week by week. Jacoby Brissett, Bryce Young, Malik Willis, CJ Stroud, Carson Wentz.
53:19And, and, you know, look, you gotta be careful because in a two quarterback league, if you spend a lot of money,
53:26it's been a lot of fab on Carson Wentz.
53:29It's very possible that he makes one more start, but Jamie thinks there's a possibility that he could just play well enough and keep the job from Minnesota.
53:37Michael Penix Jr. It's gotta be sooner rather than later when he starts, when he becomes their starter.
53:42As soon as he's healthy, he's in there. And, you know, you want to put Tua in that spot in case two
53:49QB super flex league that he starts this week.
53:51Anybody's better than Cooper Rush. Yes. Uh, Drew Locke could get another one or two starts.
53:56They're at Arizona this week. He's definitely starting week two.
53:59Okay. Uh, at Arizona at Washington, the next two games, those are on paper good.
54:04Not necessarily from, yeah, they're good. should her Sanders is just, he's not on your list, but good speculate on Shadur Sanders running backs.
54:11The shallow league guys are Woody marks, Chris Rodriguez, and Zach Charbonnet.
54:14Charbonnet should be in an IR spot, but as far as Woody marks and Chris Rodriguez go, are they holds or they drops at this point?
54:22I wouldn't be dropping Woody marks after he played the same amount of snaps as David Montgomery.
54:27And I think you got to be encouraged that he ran well, you know, so he, you know, yards per carry was
54:34better than David Montgomery, different type of carries. And I still think there's a role for him in the passing game.
54:40Rodriguez, look, we'll see what goal line opportunities come his way.
54:43And this is one of those situations where Jacksonville's offense.
54:46I know everybody's excited about the bears. Jacksonville's office is going to be very good as well.
54:51I hope that's a huge surprise, but we just didn't see it.
54:55And bears getting all the headlines, see it to the same extent.
54:58Um, you want pieces of Jacksonville's offense and Rodriguez.
55:01If something happens to Tootin last year, there was a pretty strong sample size of 10 carries or more, 10 PPR points or more for Rodriguez.
55:08Almost, I think it was like five or six times that it happened.
55:12So he's not going to help you in the passing game.
55:16But when you get to those like Jordan Mason, JK Dobbins type of, you know, to Kory cross camera type of running backs, he's right in that mold.
55:24If he ever got the starting job, I think I'd rather have black than both of those guys.
55:29Oh, I agree. Yeah. But when we start talking about Emmett Johnson and Devin Singletary and all those other guys, I don't think I'm there.
55:37So maybe I'm at Johnson over, over Rodriguez. The caveat being, if I have Kenneth Walker, I absolutely have to have Emmett Johnson in the chat.
55:44Drop what he marks for Devon Valle. If that's the worst guy on your team to get a receiver because you're stuck.
55:51Yeah, for sure. All right. The running backs on the waiver wire, Kaylon black, 61% rostered in CBS leagues, Emmett Johnson, Tyler
55:57Algier, Christopher Brooks, and, uh, Devin Singletary. We'll see what happens with Najee Harris this week and what role he has, if
56:04he's active, but I don't think he's going to be the third down back.
56:08Kendry Miller, Katron Allen. And if you're watching on YouTube, you see the list, uh, starting with Jonah Coleman.
56:14So what I have in the column is a list of just handcuffs to stash.
56:18And so these are guys that aren't going to help you very much while the starter is healthy.
56:23But if the starter goes down, then you could have a league winner.
56:27So if you have a roster spot to play with, these are guys to go look for his lottery.
56:33I just don't know if I agree about Jonah Coleman anymore.
56:36I feel like RJ Harvey might be just the handcuff.
56:39He looked good. He looked better than he did at any point last year.
56:43I don't fully disagree with you. And Harvey did look good.
56:47Again, another, another thing that Sean Payton said was we didn't, we saw enough of him in the preseason.
56:52We don't need to see any more. Well, we didn't see him in week one.
56:57Like, yeah, right. Their run game was just so disjointed and not having any opportunity to get going.
57:02And then I, I thought on top of Harvey looking good, I thought Dobbins had some good runs too.
57:08They just didn't get enough. Yeah, of course he always does.
57:11Okay. So handcuffs are Jonah Coleman, Braylon Allen, tank Bigsby, Ray Davis, Brian Robinson, Jr.
57:15Samajay P Ryan and our Mari Di Mercado is, it's seemingly the number two running back for Dallas right now.
57:21Yeah. They, they signed Tyler Goodson, but I don't know if he's going to elevate over Di Mercado.
57:27Maybe he would see some playing time. If Javante Williams won a big survivor pool contest, drop candidates, Rashad white, disappointing.
57:33He just didn't really have much of a role.
57:35And then when they benched your Corey Krosky merit, he wasn't even the guy who it was Katron Allen, not Rashad white,
57:42Tajay Spears, Tyrone, Tracy, Dylan Sampson, Jordan James. These guys are drop candidates.
57:46If you need to make a move and just one more note on the Katron Allen thing, there were, I forgot how
57:52many, Oh, I have it right here. It's a court cross.
57:56Uh, you know, I just wanted to throw George Halani and Raheem Sanders in there in deep leagues.
58:01Halani could get you a goal line touchdown. Maybe Sanders could be the third down back.
58:06Uh, he's, he's worse than Halani, but I'm just saying names wide receiver.
58:10Oh, about that. I think I'm, you can make the case for Sanders over Halani.
58:14Uh, I'll take the guy who has a chance to score a touchdown on the better team.
58:19Isn't that a manual Wilson? I think it's a lot.
58:22It could be. It may be. It's manual Wilson.
58:25In week one. Uh, not, not exclusive. Listen, I think, I think you're in deep bleep if you're picking between George Halani
58:31and Raheem Sanders for a running back spot in fantasy.
58:34Yeah. All right. Wide receiver. Sanders is actually like an interesting prospect.
58:38Like, if I had to. The worst nickname in football.
58:41What? Rocket. That guy should not be called rocket.
58:43No, no, no. He should not. All right. Wide receivers.
58:46Wide receivers. We got Debo. We got Romeo Dobbs.
58:49If, if you could choose any Patriots wide receiver, including Dobbs is 79% rostered.
58:53Who would it be? I would still take a chance on Dobbs.
58:57I'll, I'll, uh, I don't really want any one of them.
59:00We got, uh, Josh. I think Douglas is my answer, but it's gotta be full PPR.
59:05Josh Downs and Jacoby Myers who are still pretty rostered.
59:08Um, but you know that if don't give up on them yet, and obviously Myers scored the touchdown, but only two targets
59:14and Matthew golden, we've been talking about. So our favorite wide receivers that are, are available in a lot of leagues are Devon Bailey, Caleb Douglas.
59:22Jamie likes Trey Harris. There's Mack Collins. Trey Tucker always has a chance.
59:26Like Trey Tucker's just an inconsistent player just because he didn't do much in week one.
59:30Doesn't mean he won't do much in, in week two at the chargers.
59:34Rashad Bateman. If Zay flowers miss his time, is that your favorite Ravens receiver, Jamie?
59:39Yes. And there's no Jacoby lane now too. So Bateman is going to get more opportunities.
59:44He ran a lot of routes just in getting targets.
59:46Khalil Shakir had a, you know, not that bad of a game.
59:50If you're just looking for some fantasy points, four catches for 50 yards on six targets and he gets Detroit on Thursday.
59:57You got Raymond Calif Raymond. You got Antonio Williams.
59:59Dave, what do we think about him? Only 29% route participation rate, but great debut for Antonio Williams, man, that is a
60:06wall that keeps me from being excited about him.
60:08But I thought he looked good on the targets that he had.
60:12I think he's a really talented receiver who can win in the slot, but they, they can use them anywhere.
60:18And I know that in college he was used everywhere.
60:21I just, I hate that they didn't use them enough.
60:24And so now you've got to ask yourself, what's his pathway to getting more playing time?
60:29I, I'm maybe it happens with Oconco out. They go to 11 receivers a little bit more or not 11, 11 personnel,
60:35three wide receivers, a little bit more. I, he's a stash, but I can't say he's going to be one of the
60:42best ads that you could pick up right now.
60:44You might even be able to, well, I don't know, maybe in like casually, someone will pick them up.
60:50I guess he's just a stash and that's it.
60:53Okay. Antonio, what I was going to say was maybe he doesn't even get picked up.
60:57And a week from now, we're talking about him as a better candidate to add because the commanders make a change.
61:04Kendrick Bourne is a 1% rostered and, and intriguing because they're just going to throw the ball a ton.
61:09Dontavian Wicks, you saw he had the long touchdown.
61:12That was a really bad coverage by Washington on that play for targets for Wicks, but he is the number two receiver
61:18for, well, Goddard, I guess, but Wicks is, you know, 15%.
61:22The bad coverage wasn't on the touchdown. It was on the deep ball.
61:25Oh, he didn't score in that play. I'm sorry.
61:28Right. No, his touchdown, but there's a lot of encouraging signs about the touchdown because that was timing with Jalen Ertz.
61:34Yeah. When Hertz read the right coverage through to a spot, Wicks was there.
61:39And if he's going to continue to be that number two receiver, then you can like him.
61:44I don't think there's a lot to be excited about.
61:47I don't know if I would trust him as anything more than a bi-week receiver.
61:51And then, yeah, I mean, I'm just going to read some names.
61:55I just don't think that I'm going to put in any bids for these guys or make any claims.
62:00I, my deepest league is 14 teams. Uh, add an eye, Mitch.
62:04I'm not saying they don't belong in the column, but there's just so many guys.
62:08Add an eye, Mitchell, Keenan Allen, Denzel Boston, Pat Bryant.
62:11I might consider him. Jalen Noel didn't play enough to Mark Robinson.
62:15Yeah. You had Xavier Hutchinson get six targets. I'd say to Mario Doug.
62:19I might take a chance to Mario Douglas over those guys.
62:22I don't know how you feel about. Sure. Did you get a chance to watch the jets offense?
62:27No. And I had that game on, but I wasn't really paying attention, but got it because I'd like, I'd like to know how Mitchell looked.
62:35And if he was, if, if he looked real good, like they were saying in the preseason, then I might be interested
62:41in, he'd be on that same list as Antonio Williams.
62:44Like I wouldn't be excited to Adam, but I, I think that there's definitely a chance that this offense throws downfield more than they have in the past.
62:53I think that's a good defense. And he's going to be there.
62:56And he's a good downfield receiver. All right. Let's get to the tight ends here.
63:01Jawan Johnson is the one shallow league tight end.
63:03Dalton Kincaid is 87% rostered. So every now and then you see one of those guys available in your league.
63:09Make sure you check, see if Dalton Kincaid's available.
63:12Um, Dalton Schultz, you'd rather have Jawan Johnson than Dalton Schultz.
63:15I assume, Jamie, 100%. Okay. And Kincaid. You'd rather have Johnson than Kincaid.
63:19I'd rather have Kincaid than Johnson, Kincaid, then Johnson, then Schultz.
63:22All right. We got Schultz. We got Michael Mayer who again, may or may not be the starting guy this week.
63:28You know, I see what you did there. I didn't, I didn't, uh, Hunter Henry and David Njoku.
63:34These guys are going to maybe take advantage of injuries.
63:37Pat Frymuth ran 74% of the routes and he ran 70% or more of the routes in three games last year.
63:43He had five or six targets in all three games, which isn't terrible.
63:47Uh, so Pat Frymuth had a nice role. Like, do you think Frymuth and Hawkinson could, could bounce back this year and actually be something?
63:54Or is this just a blip in week one?
63:57You know, when you look at McCarthy in Dallas, Ferguson had a good year.
64:01Schultz had a good year. You know, there's, there's been about a hundred targets for those guys.
64:06It wouldn't surprise me if Frymuth is sneaky, low end number one type tight end.
64:11Yep. Okay. And then you've got, what about Hawkinson?
64:13Look, there's not going to be many games where Jordan Addison gets two, two or three targets, whatever it was and no catches.
64:20So that's something I'd consider. Juwan Jennings was a non-factor also.
64:23So I don't think it's a bad play. You know, like if you're looking at it and this is what I struggled with.
64:30Frymuth, Hawkinson versus Sadiq and Ferguson, like a Sadiq continues to improve, you know, four targets, three catches had the Russian touchdown.
64:37There's so much more upside for him just based on his pedigree, but Hawkinson can get five or six targets and fall in the end zone.
64:44Frymuth again, just looking at situation, Michael Pittman really wasn't much of a factor like he could be moving forward.
64:50So it's just a matter of like what you're looking for when you're talking about a second tight end.
64:56If I need somebody to start this week, I'm probably going to link Frymuth or Hawkinson over the younger guys.
65:02And the younger guys like Sadiq, Terrence Ferguson, Brenton Strange, they're not Darren Waller.
65:06He's not young. Or is Gasicki, Gunnar Helm. Dave, when you look at Sadiq, Ferguson, that's Terrence.
65:11Brenton Strange, Darren Waller, Mike Gasicki, Gunnar Helm, anyone here that you want to just stash?
65:16Deep league stash would be Sadiq. Okay. Yeah, it's tough to roster two tight ends when one of them isn't really doing anything on a weekly basis.
65:24Weird that Noah Fant got eight targets. I think that one we're going to just kind of ignore.
65:29He only ran 18 routes, but Noah Fant had eight targets and a touchdown for the Saints.
65:34DSTs, 49ers, we love them. We love them. Tampa, Buccaneer Boulevard, we love them.
65:38Packers at the Jets, Panthers at Atlanta if Cooper Rush plays.
65:42What's the Chiefs roster ship? That's a great question.
65:44Let's see. Because they've got the Colts. That's not great, but after that, it's Miami and Las Vegas and then a bye.
65:5135%. Ooh. Add them to the list, but I don't think I like them better than the Bucs and the Niners, unless you're lazy.
65:58If you're lazy and you just want to get a defense that you can use for the next three weeks and not
66:04think about it, then the Chiefs would be it.
66:07Are you saying that was cringe about my, we love it thing?
66:11Because that was not cringe. Go watch the naked one.
66:14I don't know how many people get the reference.
66:16Yeah. It's a, what's his name? Randy Newman song.
66:19Batman with his kids and dog. Oh, that was cringe.
66:22That was cringe. My favorite Family Guy moments. Kickers were Cairo Santos, Tyler Loop, Tyler Bass, and Trey Smack.
66:27Drove in to the morning fog. All right. We'll see you later.
66:31Hey there, Rover. I'd like to hear the Fantasy Cops theme through that voice.
66:35Uh-oh. Whoa. The thing about him. All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow with some Milo So High and the Worryometer Wednesday on Fantasy Football Today.
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