0:00Big Show for you guys here. Oh, it's a packed one today because Justin Boone makes his triumphant return to the Peoples Panic Meter and the waiver wire.
0:08We have so much to get into news that we got on Monday morning, including a devastating injury to a high end
0:14running back in fantasy football, plus a quarterback trade that's going to affect Malik neighbors in the panic meter.
0:19Emeka Ibuka quarterback injury. We talk him in the panic meter.
0:22Then we go through all of your submissions and we have a lot of coping corner candidates to get to today.
0:28Yes, we are already at that point of the NFL season, plus some players you need to add on the waiver wire.
0:34Also, we start off the show with a recap of a banger of a Monday night football game case Keenum.
0:39We let our case Keenum flag fly. If you know, you know on that reference.
0:43All right, all that and more come up on today's show.
0:46Let's get into it. What's going on, everyone? I'm Matt Harmon.
0:49Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast nightcap, and it is a hell of a night to talk ball because Monday night football.
0:55Oh boy. What a game. What a great topper to an electric week of football.
0:59Joining me to break it all down is my guy Hayden Winks.
1:03Hayden, what's going on, man? Pretty exciting game there.
1:05I love when we get a little backup quarterback in there, an old unk and just delivers the offense as it was designed.
1:11So obviously that was the big storyline here, but very exciting game.
1:15No question. We've got Bears 27 Eagles 7 and as always and where else could we start?
1:19We have to start with the team that won this football game.
1:23Hayden mentioned it. Case Keenum 247 passing yards, two touchdowns, a rushing touchdown on an old school traditional sneak.
1:28You love to see it against the Philadelphia Eagles, the Tush push merchants, as some would call them.
1:33Case Keenum gets it done with the sneak there.
1:35Yeah, look, this was what a fun night for Case Keenum, man.
1:38I in no way could have seen this performance coming.
1:41Who could have seen this performance coming? But Hayden, my first thought when I saw him, you know, just tear it up
1:47on the first drive, honestly, and I think I tweeted about this.
1:51You will never be able to convince me that these elite offensive play callers don't relish.
1:55I'm not saying they want these guys for the long term, but don't relish at least a small one game, two game
2:01sample where they get to have the backup quarterback to just paint by numbers, color within the lines, the whole deal and bring their scheme to life.
2:08And that is exactly what we got tonight with Ben Johnson and Case Keenum.
2:12It's like that part of your resume, maybe towards the bottom, like skills or something like credentials and like these coaches just
2:18love like, hey, remember that Case Keenum game that I went through?
2:21So I completely agree. And you kind of noticed it right away that Case Keenum is like way in command of what Ben Johnson was doing.
2:29It seemed like their microphone was like right next to him in the pre snaps on the TV.
2:33You can just hear him just calling out the mics and obviously every quarterback is doing this, but he just seems so calm collected.
2:40He was also feeling himself that one play later on the game.
2:43He kind of does that sidestep in traffic where I thought he was for sure going to fumble it.
2:49So his confidence was building as the game progressed there.
2:51Maybe he got a little bit carried away, but every single way that you dice up the stats here, Case Keenum excelled.
2:57I'm looking at the blitz numbers. He was 10 of 12 against the blitz for 134 yards, two touchdowns under center was completely lights out.
3:04He had 10 completions on under center play action, which is, you know, compared to the Eagles.
3:09They have six on the entire season. So he was doing a little bit of everything.
3:13Obviously, a little bit of everything includes Kalief Raymond being the leading receiver as usual.
3:17So pretty exciting stuff for Case Keenum here. Yeah, no question.
3:20Case Keenum, 8.44 adjusted net yards per attempt. That is the sixth best game by a Bears quarterback since Ben Johnson took this thing over.
3:27And you look at the other ones on the list here.
3:30We're showing them on the screen if you're watching with us on YouTube.
3:34It's the Cowboys game for Caleb Williams. Obviously, you know, that defense was horrible last year.
3:38They have the Panthers performances, number two, the Bengals defense for number three for Caleb Williams.
3:42I'm not saying any of this to take away from Caleb Williams.
3:46It's just to put into context what an awesome night Case Keenum just had executing this offense and, you know, making some
3:52plays to like, you know, some some moving around the whole deal.
3:55It was really great to see. I mean, Caleb Williams is going to miss at least a couple more games here, maybe more.
4:01How are they not playing Case Keenum going forward at this point?
4:05Oh, yeah. Yeah. Tyson Bajan is a figment of our imagination.
4:08At this point, Case Keenum is is the man he's he played so well.
4:11He's 38 years old. He can probably sign three more years of backup quarterback play if he wants it.
4:17Like that's all it takes for him. So really enjoyed this one.
4:20It was cool to see DeAndre Swift at least pick up 84 yards there.
4:24My question to you is just like moving forward.
4:26Luther Burden, he scores the touchdown. He was heavily involved early on in the game.
4:30I loved that. The design touch they got down there.
4:33Colson Loveland is an inch away from scoring a touchdown.
4:36I do not know how he did not score on that one, but still only four targets when Case Keenum threw the ball 34 times.
4:43And then our guy Roma Dunze, I mean wide open.
4:45This just happens too often with Roma Dunze. I you can make a highlight reel from him of like him getting open.
4:51And then if you cut it at the last second to exclude all of his drops, man.
4:56But like what is what are we supposed to do with these Bears pass catchers moving forward?
5:01Because this is another game where Kalief Raymond has seven targets, has the explosive.
5:04And it's kind of like the underneath outlets. Like I'm still kind of perplexed on what to do with my rankings moving forward.
5:11And he played the second most snaps of all the pass catchers beyond Roma Dunze.
5:15Like he's out there all the time is Kalief Raymond.
5:18And yeah, just quick on the Roma Dunze drop.
5:20I mean, good God. I'm a pretty emotionless football watcher.
5:23Like I enjoy the games. I'm never like truly tilting about things.
5:26It's just, yeah, I don't know. It's just not the way I am that I'm riding the exercise bike in the first half of this game.
5:33You know, that's how I like to do the first half of these primetime games.
5:37Keep the blood flowing, whatever. You know, you got to get it in when you can.
5:42I audibly yelled, you've got to be kidding me.
5:44When he dropped that pass, man. Because it's just so frustrating.
5:47It is so frustrating, dude. This guy is, it's just, he does everything so well except finish these plays.
5:52And it's like, well, okay. This is where the comments, it's like, well, separation, route running.
5:57Doesn't matter if you can't catch football. It's like, yeah, you know what?
6:00I got nothing to say for you tonight. I got nothing to say for you tonight because he did have some cool catches otherwise.
6:07And there's a pass where like Case Keenan probably put it behind him when he could have got a first down.
6:13He drew a holding penalty. I can sit there and do all that stuff.
6:16But it's like, my God, if you're going to drop that wide ass open touchdown.
6:21I mean, look at that. Look at that. I don't know what to say.
6:24It is so frustrating, especially because the debates about a Dunzee as a prospect wasn't even like, Oh, he, you know, whatever.
6:30He can't catch. Yeah. It was like, well, he can't separate calling card.
6:34This was his calling card. It's just, it's like, it's got to be in his head at this point.
6:39And I don't really know. Like I said, I don't really know what to say.
6:43I have no defense for the Dunzee stuff tonight.
6:46Like, let it rip Luther burden bros. Let it rip everybody.
6:49That's a Roma Dunzee hater. I don't really know what to say about it other than that.
6:53And yeah, on the Kalief Raymond part of the equation here.
6:56Yeah, this is real. Like he's, he is going to be a problem for all of us.
7:01Like regardless of where you stood on the culture war of this bears pass catcher versus the other.
7:06I don't think anybody on earth hate and accounted for the fact that this guy was going to have a real deal role.
7:12And he absolutely does. Like if anybody has the Amon Ross St.
7:16Brown role of this offense, like it's, it's actually the guy who wears number 14.
7:20Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is the same kind of splits from this game as the previous ones.
7:25And that Luther burden plays about half the snaps outside of 11 personnel and Kalief Raymond plays the other half of them.
7:31And then in 11 personnel, Kalief Raymond is the slot for the most of the snaps and not Luther burden.
7:36And I think like definitely so right now, like Luther burden is the one that you can put in your starting lineups.
7:42And I think that Colson Loveland and Roma doans.
7:45Like we're getting to the point where it's, it's absolutely have to prove it to me first.
7:49And I think the hard part with Colson Loveland is it's not just that he's like falling obviously in like rest of season rankings.
7:56It's at the rest of the tight end position is flying up rest of season rankings.
8:00So there's, there's probably 14 tight ends that you can like legitimately have a debate over Colson Loveland.
8:05He's such a good player, but man, like there's like not getting him the football.
8:09I think part of the reason is because Kalief Raymond and Luther burden are just like wide open underneath.
8:14And they just have like not been making Colson level in that priority.
8:18So I think right now in fantasy, I think for next week, it's pretty hard to trust Kyle Monunga with a backup quarterback, but you're starting DeAndre Swift.
8:26I think you're starting Luther burden as a wide receiver three with upside.
8:29And then kind of everyone else is like on the periphery.
8:32I'm not sure if you have another opinion. I think that's pretty right.
8:36You know, if you have a backup plan at tight end, I definitely think it's, it's time for that with Colson Loveland.
8:42Like these guys are all so talented, a dunes included like that, that things can change quickly.
8:46You know, and Cleve Raymond is, is, is, is a 32 year old player.
8:50Like there's a chance that this is one of those classic, the veteran who knows the offense starts off fast.
8:56And then he fades as the season goes on.
8:58I'm totally open to that, but where we're living in right now, I don't see any reason for Ben Johnson to dial
9:04his role back just because of, you know, draft capital or whatever for these other players.
9:09Next game, they get the jet, the jets defense and excuse me, the jets in week four.
9:13That defense is, is certainly gettable. The offense for New York is cooking.
9:17I mean, there's definitely a path where these guys pop off next week.
9:20Um, so yeah, it's just like, that's where I'm at with these pass catchers.
9:24And, uh, yeah, I think Luther burden definitely, this was his best game for sure.
9:28I thought the first two games were a little rockier for him, but still it's 4.45 air yards per target.
9:34Like at some point you want to think that he's going to get going down the football field too.
9:39And I think he's definitely capable of doing that.
9:41Just last thing to kind of close the loop on these bears pass catchers.
9:45Hayden, I say this in the panic meter show, which if you're listening to us on the audio side, you're going to
9:51hear this in just a moment about like Brian Thomas jr and Marvin Harrison jr.
9:55And I think this fits for Roma dunes day as well.
9:58It's ironic. These guys are all from the same 2024 draft class.
10:02Like if you're an X primary receiver and rum does play other positions, but he mostly in this offense this year is
10:08the X given that Kali frame and Luther bird, the other guys we're talking about.
10:12And you were not so clearly the best pass catcher on your team.
10:15It is really difficult in today's NFL to be like every week, consistent fantasy option.
10:19I mean, I can't, I'm sitting, I'd love to sit here and think of who that player is.
10:24That's kind of the, the second best pass catcher on his team.
10:28And you know, they don't have like Caleb, obviously it's great case game playing in this game, the whole deal, but like
10:34a, like a Joe burrow type of quarterback. It's really hard to be in every single week fantasy starter when, when you're that player.
10:40Yeah. I was going to say T Higgins, but like, you know, that's because you have, first of all, T Higgins is awesome.
10:46And then you also, you have Joe burrow. So it's, it's a very difficult role.
10:51You need like some manufactured touches to, to create a floor and Roma dunes.
10:54He's just like not going to get those right now.
10:57So totally agree on that point, but man, just like so awesome for Ben Johnson to get a performance where we like,
11:03we can have some confidence with the Chicago bears next week in an awesome matchup.
11:07But yeah, that's absolutely fantastic. Thank God for us.
11:10And this transition is pretty cleanly to the Eagles.
11:12Cause I actually first wanted to talk about the defense with you before we talk about the offense, because kind of the
11:18continuation of that conversation, watching the Eagles defense tonight.
11:21And this is something I've been thinking about, but with defenses the last few weeks, I'm like, again, talk about this later
11:27on in the show with Boone about David Montgomery and how it relates to the Texans defense.
11:31Like you can have great pass catchers, you can have great cornerbacks.
11:35And I think the Eagles have that and the Texans do as well.
11:38But if you have linebackers and safeties that you can pick on in coverage, it is really, again, hard to be an elite defense.
11:45And Andrew Okuba was like, this was a disaster night for him.
11:48This is a burn the tape type of night for him.
11:51They picked on those players in coverage all night.
11:53And that is something that even, I think the Eagles are a good defense.
11:57They have really talented players, but that was an issue all night for Philadelphia.
12:01It really was. Losses throughout the year as well.
12:04So he was, I mean, obviously a complete lights out player before and like he isn't, he isn't getting picked on, but
12:10there has just been more moments where Cooper Jean has been at fault.
12:13So yeah, the Eagles defense right now, they don't have like elite edge rushers right now.
12:18And they are having a couple more either missed tackles or coverage bust over the middle of the football field.
12:23They still have Quinnian Mitchell and Rick Wollin, which for the most part has been really well working really well this season.
12:29Uh, but the spine of the defense is just making more mistakes.
12:32They're not creating as much, uh, pass rush, uh, movement either.
12:35Um, so yeah, this is, this is not like an S tier defense.
12:39It's like one down from that. And the offense is like, just not picking up the pace either.
12:44So like, this is, this is where you could have squinted and seen how the Eagles like a real legit, uh, uh,
12:50contender, but right now they just feel a beat off and that's both sides of the ball.
12:54Yeah. And it's funny how Vic Fangio was sort of the original boogeyman for, you know, Sean McVay when he was on
13:01that real come up and Ben Johnson's got him twice and back to back years.
13:05And this one a little bit was, uh, it was the run game for the most part in that black Friday game last year.
13:11This one, uh, run game ended up being pretty good, but it was for the most part kind of picking them apart
13:17across, as you said, the spine of the defense Eagles offense, uh, thoughts on that unit in what was again, a pretty shaky performance.
13:24What was so frustrating about this one is the run game was actually working in this one and it's still just didn't matter.
13:30So Saquon 15 carries for 82 yards does not get the touchdown.
13:33Obviously Jalen, uh, Jalen Hurts gets one going into halftime, which by the way, that was, that was an awesome moment.
13:39Uh, Jalen Hurts just instead of, you know, trying to spike the ball, just, uh, runs it in himself, like going in, uh, into a halftime.
13:46But the rest of the offense just feels, it's not exactly the same way that they were losing in the previous couple
13:52of seasons, but it's pretty close to that. And just some stats to kind of throw out there big picture.
13:58The Eagles are 28th and running back success rate this season at 34%.
14:01They're 30th in success rate versus the blitz at 35%.
14:04They're 32nd in screen yards at negative 12. They are 32nd in under center play action completions this year at six.
14:10Uh, and then like players like Makai Lemon, like they have just like not fully figured it out.
14:15So it's just one of those where it's the blitz, the screen game, the under center play action.
14:20Like we've talked about this before with the Philadelphia Eagles and, uh, those stats are popping up once again.
14:25It's not that surprising, right? Um, it was tempting to say because the matchups were so good through the first three weeks
14:31of the season, maybe this wouldn't be the case, but didn't this feel like all along it was going to take some
14:37time for this unit to make what's pretty, a pretty schematic, hard schematic left turn.
14:41And now they have to do it without the run game carrying its weight, even though to your point, like tonight it
14:47was certainly better than it was in the first two games of the season.
14:51And they don't have the tight ends that they'd like out there to really get into all these different formations and everything.
14:57I really think at this point, it's going to be one of those, Hey, if it clicks for Philadelphia, it's probably going
15:03to be a back half of the season type of offense.
15:06Yeah, I totally agree. The one thing that's been working is just the, the 50, 50 balls to Devante Smith just continue
15:12to work done on Davian Wicks is like showing real, like a route running chops, like that big out route that he had.
15:18That was a special moment, but that can't be like the only part of the past game.
15:23Like there's just not easy completions in this offense.
15:25And like that, the interception to Jalen hurts is left there watching that play back again.
15:30There's not a single route available on the right side of the football field.
15:33And it looks like there's gonna be like a lot of pre-snap pressure and some of them drop out into coverage.
15:39And then the rest of the routes are just like quick little, uh, uh, hitches to the left.
15:44And Jalen hurts is like obviously staring those down because there's literally not a route on the entire right side of the field.
15:50So it's like little things like that. I can't wait to watch this game back tomorrow for, for stats versus film, but
15:56they're just not like a whole lot of creativity here.
15:59There's a little bit of motion, but for the most part, just kind of like the same shotgun offense that they've been
16:05running for the last couple of seasons. Awesome catch by Devante Smith as an X receiver tonight.
16:10That was really cool to see. Uh, he has just been balling through the first three weeks of the season.
16:15Yeah. Good contributions from Wicks. I certainly, if you, if you played him in fantasy, you wanted more than what you got tonight.
16:22Um, two catches for 32 yards. He had a deep one that Jalen put it a little out of reach and then
16:28ultimately he can't corral it, which was unfortunate. But yeah, I mean, Wicks has been, it's just, it's really nice to see.
16:34Wicks is a positive force in this offense. Where are you at with McKay lemon's lack of contributions at this point?
16:39Yeah. I mean, it's becoming an issue. I did not like at one point in the game, they had him in the
16:45backfield and they ran that little Texas route, uh, which has like been the cheat code for like the last five years,
16:51like every single great wide receiver on that route, like scores a touchdown and he didn't do anything with it.
16:57Um, and then all, all the screen stuff is just not worked, you know, and not all of that is his fault.
17:03Obviously like a lot of screen stuff is just like, did you hit the block or not?
17:08And the Eagles have been terrible at that. They're the worst team in the NFL on screens.
17:12Like that's not the worst team. And at some point, a lot of the routes are a little bit Mickey mousey for me.
17:19He's not super explosive. And so like, I think that even those type of routes, like it's, it's got such a low ceiling on them.
17:25Like, I think for me, it was like his ball tracking over the middle and his toughness over the middle.
17:31And I don't think that you're going to really unlock that skillset if he's going to be working at and behind the line of scrimmage.
17:38Like he's not going to be the type that catches a screen and houses it for 70 yards.
17:43Like you're going to have to get more crossing routes, uh, over the middle here.
17:47Um, so that that's kind of been the frustration with me.
17:50He had, he had one of those or maybe two of them in this game, but, um, he's not going to be super explosive.
17:56So you have to use him and tailor his role to his strengths, which to me, they have not done quite enough.
18:02Yeah. I think it was on the final drive for Philadelphia where he did have one of those catches that you're kind of describing.
18:09Like, yeah, I just would love to see more of that with him.
18:12I never saw him as kind of a design touches type of receiver.
18:16He's, he's someone that you want to get in motion.
18:19And, you know, you mentioned like over the middle of the field, I loved how he was used on out cuts at
18:25USC, where that to me is like where you'd ideally want him to be in this offense.
18:29The problem is that's kind of what Wicks is doing in this offense.
18:33So they almost are kind of, this sounds really harsh to say, and I don't mean it was, they're almost like trying
18:39to justify his presence on the field by like, Oh, let's get him these easy button touches.
18:44But I don't really know that he's going to do anything with those consistently.
18:47So from a, like a dynasty standpoint or a panic standpoint, I'm not freaking out about Makai Lemon, because I think he
18:53was always going to be a slow start player with all of his off season injuries, but he just hasn't really been
18:59a needle mover for this team yet. And they're really kind of desperate for another needle mover beyond Devante Smith.
19:05Cause Wicks is again, a rock solid player. And I think a guy that you can, you can get away with it
19:11with him as your wide receiver too, but you'd love for this to be like a two way in a two B
19:17situation that just has an apple with Makai Lemon.
19:19Right. Right. But he was so money on those out routes at USC.
19:23Like that was like, actually the gimme play for, for USC, uh, the last couple of seasons.
19:28So, and Jalen hurts is accurate on those throws.
19:30Like to me, I would like to scrap out all just like run those.
19:34Like that's what he was good at college. That's what your, your quarterback is good at is throwing the ball to the perimeter.
19:40Uh, and let's just see if that works a little bit more than what it's, what's been going on here.
19:46So, uh, and the last night, like there was a couple of plays where like cam Juergen just misses a block one-on-one.
19:52Like they're still having some moments of that. Every quarterback deals with that.
19:55But, uh, like you have noticed, like this is not the super bowl offensive line.
19:59They played better this week than they had previously where it was like a actual, like big problem.
20:04This was more of a mediocre game from the offensive line.
20:07But you know, when they were winning the super bowl and Jalen hurts was playing like a top 10 quarterback, uh, that offensive line was dynamite.
20:14And this offensive line, just like, it's just not going to hit that potential again.
20:19No, it's not. Um, I am hoping to see their team.
20:22They don't have a buy till week 10. So like the whole post by rookie bump thing for Makai lemon, you know, hopefully it comes sooner than that.
20:29Right. Uh, hopefully it comes after, I don't know, maybe a mini buy, right.
20:33Uh, they talked about that with Thursday night stuff.
20:35That'd be great. If we had one of those games, we don't have any of those games before their actual buy week.
20:41So, um, we'll see with that part of it, cause it kind of feels like they didn't originally plan to be this 11 personnel team.
20:48And now they pretty much have to run that out every single snap because of the state of their tight end room.
20:54Uh, Zach Ertz played, he ran 13 routes in this game, played 18 snaps.
20:58Didn't know that, uh, based on watching the game, uh, on broadcast really.
21:02Cause he just caught the one pass for nine yards.
21:04But I mean, yeah, it's Zach Ertz at this point of his career.
21:08Like, what are we expecting? He's, he signed like two seconds before this week got really rolling here.
21:13So yeah, it's difficult for sure where the Eagles offense is right now, especially as they go into a much harder portion
21:19of their schedule with the Rams and then an international trip against Jacksonville in week five.
21:23They do eventually then get Panthers, Cowboys, commanders, and giants before that buy.
21:27But these next two weeks, I don't think I'll be ranking Saquon Barkley as a top.
21:31Like, I mean, maybe a top 10, probably top 10 running back, I guess maybe fringe top 10 running back, but it's
21:37pretty dicey with the state of the, uh, offensive line at this standpoint.
21:41I kind of been ranking him like around RB 12 to like 14.
21:44I feel pretty good about that. Only two receptions for Saquon Barkley.
21:48And then obviously you're going to lose some of the, the tush push touchdowns to it.
21:52So it's like a weird needle. He has to thread.
21:55I will say individually, I think that Saquon Barkley still looks awesome.
21:58And he, and he's, he's really high up there on like the, the force miss tackles pretend it's like this is it's Saquon Barkley's box score problem.
22:05I don't think this is a Saquon Barkley has lost a step problem to me at all here.
22:10Um, and then on your Zach Ertz point, uh, you guys got to follow Zach Ertz, uh, yak on, on, on Twitter.
22:16It just tells you if he broke a tackle or not.
22:19Uh, and the one tweet, nope. That was all you had today.
22:23One. Nope. Do you think that account ever thought it would still exist in the year 2026, especially with back with the Philadelphia Eagles?
22:29Uh, look at that. What a, what a time.
22:32If nothing changes really like case Keenum's throwing heaters and Zach Ertz is in breaking tackles.
22:36Unbelievable stuff. Yeah. Again, what a night for case Keenum.
22:39This was, uh, this is a game I'm going to remember for a really long time.
22:43Cause that was just really cool to see for him.
22:46And, and we'll see how long he can sustain this.
22:49Cause it just is really, God, this tweet is so funny.
22:52It's just great to see a quarterback really bring what's a really well-designed offense to life.
22:56And again, this is no shade to Kayla Williams cause he has played well.
23:00Uh, there's just, you almost just want him. You almost want Caleb Williams to have like 5% more.
23:05I don't know what the exact meter is, but is it just like 5% more of case Keenum to him in a weird way?
23:11Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'll raise that to 10.
23:14I was watching the same thing here. It would bring a little bit more consistency.
23:18Uh, also this is just going to buy them more time if they could pull off another quote upset, uh, over the next couple of weeks.
23:25Cause it's a grade two hamstring injury. And obviously you don't want a setback for Kayla Williams here.
23:30They get the jets Packers and Falcons. Like maybe they ride all the way through that Falcons game before bringing him, uh, back.
23:37So, you know, the better case Keenum plays, but the longer that they could have Kayla Williams just sit there and rehab.
23:43Hell of a night. All right. That's going to do it for our Monday night football nightcap here.
23:48And we will check you guys all out next time.
23:50All right. That does it for our Monday night nightcap.
23:53Now let's toss to the rest of the show with Justin Boone, making his triumphant return to the panic meter and the waiver wire.
24:00Let's get into it. It is a hell of a day to talk ball and joining me to do just that is my good friend, Justin Boone.
24:07Boone, it has been way too long since you and I have been together on this podcast feed.
24:12Yeah. We've had fantasy football live. Yeah. We've, we've seen each other in Monday meetings.
24:16We we've, we've, we've obviously spoken several times over the last few weeks, but I've missed you pal on this show.
24:22Scott P now, he's been holding it down. I know you were holding it down for me on the preview last week,
24:28but it is good to see you on the other side of this call.
24:32What's going on, man. How you doing? Yeah, we're back buddy.
24:35I am great. Like there was of course a couple of rough weeks there to start the season, had a death in the family.
24:41Thank you to everybody for the support who watches the shows.
24:44Thank you to Scottie P for stepping in for me in those shows.
24:48Really appreciate that. And then, yeah, you take an early bi-week Harmon.
24:51What is that all about? We're taking an early bi-week.
24:54Look, that's a mistake, man. Nobody wants an early bi-week.
24:56That is going to come to haunt you later in the season.
25:00I mean, number one, never. I've never taken a bi-week ever.
25:03Okay. I don't know if you can call it a bi-week considering still was on the Sunday night recap last night was watching games on the plane.
25:10I knew it would bother you if I said that.
25:13Yeah, it's been. Well, because again, I think I was told that you said this on the preview show.
25:18Producer Colin or maybe JB. Maybe it was Jung.
25:21I don't know. One of them tattled on you.
25:23I mean, producer Colin can't say anything. He was also taking time off last week.
25:27So a lot of people apparently were taking a bunch of time off.
25:31But anyway, we're back in the groove here, man.
25:33We're feeling good. We're raring to go. I'm fired up.
25:36I told you I'm in mid-season form. This is great.
25:39And I can't wait. I got a lot of panic here that we got to get out that's just been storing up in me for a couple weeks.
25:46Oh, good. Maybe there's some players you should have submitted to the People's Panic Meter.
25:50Because yeah, this is a packed show. It is good to be back with Boone and certainly feeling good that I'm here
25:56with you and definitely been thinking about your family.
25:59And man, I'm just, you know, love you, buddy.
26:01Love all the Boones. Love the whole family, the whole deal.
26:04So yes, it's a packed show, though. We got a lot to get into.
26:08We've got the People's Panic Meter. We've got waiver wire targets.
26:11Tons of stuff coming up. However, we have a little bit of fantasy fallout before we get into all that.
26:17Because we've got a bunch of injury news to discuss on this show, starting with some really bad news.
26:22Miami Dolphins running back Devon A. Chan is going to miss the remainder of the season after suffering a torn ACL against the Chiefs on Sunday.
26:29And again, when I was on my bye week, quote unquote, I was watching this game on the airplane and, you know, saw the play.
26:36You know, his face mask gets grabbed and he kind of pulls up lame.
26:40It's like, oh, that didn't look that bad. But yeah, torn ACL for Devon A.
26:44Chan. He's going to miss the rest of the season.
26:46I'm sure we're going to be talking about some of the potential replacements later on in the waiver wire, Boone.
26:52But reaction to the Dolphins losing by far their best skill position player here.
26:56I had, and I think I brought it up a couple times on the show.
27:00I had this like gut feeling in the summer.
27:02It wasn't based on anything really real. It was just the idea that this is a smaller back who's had big workloads, made it through last season healthy.
27:10Now he was going to have to carry this team.
27:13And I was worried that this is how his season was going to end, that he was going to have another massive
27:19workload and that he was going to break down because of it.
27:22That's not exactly what happened here because he kind of had normal workloads and it's early in the season.
27:27But still, we're going to be without A. Chan.
27:30And I had a couple of dynasty teams, Harmon, where I have been contending with those teams.
27:34And now based on this injury and a couple other things, I might actually have to go into rebuild mode on a couple of these.
27:41So that is how catastrophic this is for fantasy managers out there.
27:44And the unfortunate part is normally with backfields, we have someone to look to where we can get excited and say, OK,
27:50well, at least fantasy wise, there's going to be opportunity that comes up here.
27:54This guy's going to step into it. Now that person can get into our fantasy lineups.
27:59And yet here, we're not totally sure how this is going to play out, right?
28:03Olly Gordon got the opportunity this week. That was because Jalen Wright was out with an injury of his own.
28:08He was dealing with a stinger and a foot injury.
28:11We got word today, this afternoon, that now he's day to day.
28:14We might have Wright back at practice here. So Olly Gordon wasn't very efficient this week.
28:19He found the end zone to kind of save his fantasy day.
28:22If I had to pick between them, I do like him as the better back.
28:26I liked him as a prospect. I thought there was a lot more to be unlocked there with him.
28:31And yet this isn't a great offense. These guys are nowhere near Devon Achan.
28:35So we can't expect that they're going to produce the way he did and have that kind of efficiency.
28:40So, man, it's like not a great situation all around.
28:43It's terrible news for Achan. We're wishing him the best.
28:46I hope he can come back totally healthy in 2027.
28:48And yet looking at this backfield now, it's like if you want to put one of these guys in your lineup, all
28:54you're really looking at is like an RB3 who's probably going to be in some sort of split or committee.
29:00This offense is 27th in EPA per play. They're 31st in success rate so far this season.
29:05I mean, I don't know that I would be.
29:07I know we showed the tweet from Hayden Winks earlier, and I think he said that perfectly.
29:12I don't know that I want to be swimming in these waters.
29:15You know, fish analogy here. I know dolphins are mammals, but nevertheless, fish analogy here.
29:19Notwithstanding, I don't know that I really want to be swimming in these waters because, I mean, Achan removing him here.
29:25He's a type of player that creates a lot of gravity, too, in the passing game.
29:29Obviously, he's a really good pass catcher as well, so I think this is just a net negative for the entire offense.
29:35Wasn't really playing anybody from this offense consistently, and I don't think I'm going to end up playing the backups to Devon Achan here.
29:42He was not on track to have a great fantasy season as it is, and, you know, it's really unfortunate.
29:47Actually, the play, I think the play that he got hurt on where the offensive line is like out in space, and
29:53you saw Patrick Paul like kicking butt in the open field there.
29:57I mean, that's just that was like, oh, this is the vision.
30:00Like, okay, maybe we're going to get something from Achan here in week three, and it just ultimately doesn't happen.
30:05At least he got paid before the season, the $64 million contract.
30:09That's for sure. At least he got that. Good for him.
30:12Yeah, and it also sucks because this whole offense, he's the engine of it, right?
30:16Now you're taking away the absolute best player there, so it's kind of bringing down everybody.
30:20We're going to talk about some of these guys, including, like, the receivers when we get to the waiver wire section, and
30:26yet no one's like a league winner here. Always opportunity.
30:29Anytime a back gets hurt and somebody else gets to step into that void and get that opportunity, and maybe you get
30:35surprised, and all of a sudden a guy comes on and does something that you didn't expect, but not really sure that that's the case here.
30:42And that's why, and again, we'll get into it a little more and talk about, like, specific bids, but normally when you
30:48have a guy go down for the year and the backup's going to step into potentially a role for the rest of
30:54the season, I'm very aggressive on the waiver wire, and my bids normally in the waiver wire column, I'm putting them very
31:00high to get that player, and this time we're just bidding, like, under 10% for these guys.
31:05We are not spending a lot of fab on them.
31:07No, we are not. I like that you brought up about the receivers actually might in a roundabout way be the guys
31:13who benefit here because, and again, we'll talk about it when we get to the waiver wire section.
31:18We might be looking at one of the worst pass defenses I've ever seen in the NFL.
31:23It is unbelievably bad. The Dolphins are going to be behind in a lot of games this year.
31:28Let's get to some of the other news, and I'm just going to actually throw these out as a grab bag, and
31:34you tell me if anybody kind of grabs you here.
31:37Brees Hall considered week-to-week with a quad injury. I think that's the biggest one.
31:41Travis Achan, he has a hamstring. He's going to miss some time, but the timeline is uncertain.
31:45And then for Justin Jefferson, he avoided a long-term injury.
31:48There's actually a chance that he plays on Sunday.
31:50Again, I think Brees Hall is the one where he's going to miss the most time.
31:55I'm sure we are talking about his backup in the waiver wire section later on.
31:59In fact, I know that because we have a doc here, and I can look at it.
32:04We'll be talking about Braylon Allen a little bit later on.
32:07But any of these injuries, anything grab you from these three?
32:10Yeah, Braylon Allen, even though we're probably not talking about a guy taking over for the rest of the season, he is
32:16a player that we've seen perform pretty well. Even perform well in that kind of complementary role, right?
32:20He's been getting a decent amount of touches in that backfield.
32:23He's been getting some goal line work. He scored a touchdown.
32:27So he's somebody that I am excited about for however long he's going to get to start.
32:31They're saying week to week with Brees Hall, it's tough to get injury information out of Aaron Glenn.
32:36I didn't think we were going to get anything until later in the week.
32:40But fortunately, we got some reports today that said week to week.
32:43So it looks like we're going to get a chance to see what Braylon Allen can do for a few weeks here as the starter.
32:50And that's a player that I do want to go out and get and get into my lineup.
32:55So he's definitely the top waiver wire ad this week.
32:58Not to spoil that section a little bit later, Herman.
33:00Yeah. And the Jets, I mean, their offense has been competent.
33:03I know they just had a great shootout with the Detroit Lions in Detroit.
33:07Of course, that's going to happen. But they get the Bears in week four.
33:11Like this is no longer the OK. Braylon Allen is taking over a bad offense sort of situation here as the lead back.
33:17He's actually going to take over an offense that's moving pretty well.
33:21Geno Smith playing some good football. Garrett Wilson balled out as expected in week three.
33:25A.D. Mitchell's been good when he's been healthy. So there we go.
33:28All right. Let's go ahead and we have some more news to cover here.
33:32So that wasn't the only news of the day.
33:34But the other two news items we're going to cover relate very well to some of the submissions in the panic meter.
33:40So without further ado, let's get into the post week three people's panic meter.
33:44Would you say it's time for everyone to panic?
33:47Yes, I would get. Oh, my God. OK, it's happening.
33:49No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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34:07Reminder for the Boone Brigade who just tuned out the last two weeks because he wasn't on the show and you're back this week.
34:13There are four levels to the panic meter. We have no panic, some panic, total panic, and coping corner.
34:18And on that note, we should remind you guys because there's going to be some people put in the coping corner after today's episode.
34:25If we put someone in the coping corner, we're just no longer taking submissions on them.
34:29However, we are able to reevaluate their coping corner status if slash when they start to appear to trend upward.
34:35But for the most part, once you're in the coping corner, you're staying there and you're no longer allowed to like, Oh
34:41my God, what's going on with this situation? I'm in total panic because you're coping.
34:45It is what it is. I don't know that we're going to be doing any coping corner here with these next two
34:51guys that relate to some injury situations. But let's talk about those because we got a ton of submissions on Malik Neighbors here.
34:57And this relates to one of the news items because the New York Giants went out and traded for J.J.
35:03McCarthy, traded a 2027 fifth round pick, which actually kind of surprised me that the Vikings were able to get so much, a fifth round pick.
35:10We can kind of parse that compensation out here.
35:12But Vikings traded J.J. McCarthy, their former first round quarterback, to the New York Giants, who have lost their former first round
35:18quarterback, Jackson Dart, for the entire season and have gotten two not so ideal performances out of Jameis Winston.
35:24So before we address Malik Neighbors and the panic meter boon, thoughts on J.J.
35:27McCarthy out in Minnesota and in with the New York Giants.
35:30I mean, what a journey it's been since my bold prediction on him last year.
35:34Shocking to see him, you know, on another team within a little over a year after I said that.
35:40He does have some Jackson Dart like elements to his game, but this is not the same level of player.
35:45He hasn't shown us anything close. And the thing I'm worried about is if you're hopeful that like down the road, he
35:51could be like the next Baker Mayfield or Gino Smith, that guy who kind of gets a second chance at his career
35:57and then all of a sudden gets going and comes alive and shows something that he didn't show in his first stop.
36:03Those guys had spent a lot more time getting acclimated to the NFL, getting more experience.
36:08He's still like a rookie. He hasn't even had like a full year of games out there.
36:12He's had these injuries he's dealt with. He hasn't looked good.
36:15And he's going from that ecosystem in Minnesota, which I still think is pretty good.
36:19I think they have good coaching there and he wasn't able to develop under them.
36:23And now he's going to New York where it's a bit of a mess right now.
36:28So I don't think this is a great move for him.
36:31You know, I think, you know, moving down the road, staying in Minnesota, still learning and then eventually going somewhere else where
36:37he would get a legitimate shot to be the long term starter, where I don't think that's going to come in New York.
36:43He's sort of just a stopgap guy there if he gets a shot this year.
36:47So not excited about him for fantasy. And when you look at neighbors, like if we see McCarthy get under center this
36:53year, it's not great for him either. We saw Justin Jefferson struggle through those games and try to be nice in the media.
37:00Malik neighbors is not that guy. He is not going to be nice.
37:03He's not going to sugarcoat anything. So we might see some very interesting interviews of McCarthy's getting starts this year.
37:09Regardless, I think you're more worried about dynasty shares.
37:11You're more worried about later in the season. And it's not a great situation in New York right now.
37:16That's really what this all boils down to. When Jackson Dart got hurt, he's shown us that he's a player that was kind of elevating guys around him.
37:24They don't have that quarterback there anymore. They certainly don't.
37:27Don't feel great about where the Jameis Winston thing is at this point either.
37:30I liked it. Cam Scadaboo made the point that that was probably a game that they would have lost last year with
37:36just how the team, you know, was under Brian Dayball's leadership previously.
37:40Speaking of Brian Dayball, things are not going so well with the Tennessee Titans.
37:44I'm not going to give you a lot of credit for eking out a win against the Tennessee Titans at this point in the proceedings.
37:50So I will say the great point by you on.
37:53I wouldn't rule out that McCarthy at some point could become a Sam Darnold reclamation project, a Geno Smith reclamation project.
37:59But those guys got to like take a beat and learn the game.
38:02And just like I mean, Darnold talks about this all the time.
38:06His year that he spent with the San Francisco 49ers as a backup was really what reset his career.
38:11I think Geno Smith had a lot of those same situations before reemerging as well.
38:15It's not been perfect. Like some guys do move on and they they they reclimate just fine.
38:20But I think those are the two. I mean, especially Darnold is a huge success story in this.
38:25And, you know, at this point, I'm just not 100 percent sure that McCarthy is going to get that time.
38:30I mean, how many games of Jameis Winston playing as he has the last two weeks?
38:34But by the way, they gave James Winston a contract in the offseason.
38:38The whole thing just feels a little weird and mismanaged.
38:41How how many weeks is it going to take before they just trot McCarthy out there and see what happens?
38:46It's probably not going to be very many, especially because it's a fifth round pick investment, which, by the way, also feel
38:52like he's your long term backup to Jackson Dart.
38:55Just just a little bizarre. I don't know. Is Dart even the guy going forward?
38:59I'm at total panic, by the way, with neighbors, with how it's gone so far, with how he's looked, which is to be expected.
39:05You know, he was coming back from a serious injury.
39:08Nobody expected him to be 100 percent in Boone with the way the Giants season is trending.
39:13And the fact that he had this shoulder thing get aggravated in week two.
39:17And this is a long term shoulder situation been dealing with since LSU that he's never gotten surgically repaired.
39:22Doesn't it just feel like McCarthy is going to start a few games?
39:25They're going to have a losing record. And then by week 11, it's hey, neighbors is going to go ahead and shut
39:31it down for the season to get this shoulder finally fixed.
39:34And all the insiders are he's hoping to emerge as his best self in 2027, which I think could could be true.
39:40But I just don't know that this year is going to be the year for neighbors.
39:45Yeah, you have to hate everything about his situation right now.
39:48And if we're doing like fantasy stock on these guys, I'm with you.
39:51Total panic. I'm looking at neighbors down where I had him ranked this week, which was like low end wide receiver to
39:57range, which a player of his talent level you'd never put in that area.
40:01He certainly has the skill to be a wide receiver, one of fantasy.
40:05And yet with that environment in New York, there's just no way we can look at him that way.
40:10I think Scadaboo is like a fine low end RB, too.
40:13I don't think we're going to see high end outcomes for him because of the things that are going on in New
40:19York right now and dart not being there. Najee Harris, he looks like he's going to be the new backup there.
40:25And he's the kind of back that I think could take some more carries away from Scadaboo.
40:29That concerns me as well. Isaiah likely after that big week one, we were thinking he was going to be one of these breakout tight ends.
40:36Now I'm looking at him as more of like a tight end to streamer.
40:40So, yeah, we're bumping all these guys down and the minute that Jackson Dart got hurt, we knew that was going to happen.
40:47Right. There was no one else coming in to save the day here.
40:50And McCarthy is certainly not that guy either. Yeah, this is the kind of an overdue total panic on neighbors and McCarthy
40:56just allows us to really talk about that at this point.
40:59Yeah, I think I'm with you on on Scadaboo as well.
41:02OK, let's get to the next one here, because we did get news that Baker Mayfield is going to be out for
41:08about three weeks with a thumb injury. Probably could have been worse, but certainly could have been better.
41:13By the way, Baker Mayfield could be playing better to start this season as well.
41:17Again, the full report is he suffered a dislocated right thumb.
41:20MRI showed no fracture, ligament or tendon damage. He's expected to miss at least three weeks.
41:25So this relates to Emeka Ibuka, who we got plenty of panic submissions about.
41:28This one from Blues Clues says we, the people, are panicking about Ibuka.
41:32Bucks are looking like a dumpster fire and now Baker is cooked.
41:35Please spend some yard per route run, ADOT or route success rate to save me from converting to a fury?
41:41A furry? Is this a furry? They're going to convert to a furry?
41:44I don't know. That's your personal life. You do whatever you want in your personal life.
41:49I will just say from a panic standpoint, I'm at total panic on Ibuka and I probably would have been at the same level.
41:55Even if Mayfield was going to continue to play because I've watched the tape on Ibuka the first few weeks.
42:01The guy's getting open. He's playing well in the role that he is operating in in the Bucks offense, which is the role I hoped he played.
42:08But Baker has just played poorly to start the season.
42:11And maybe that would have corrected itself at some point.
42:14It's not going to correct itself while he's on the bench and probably not when he comes back after dealing with a thumb injury.
42:20So I'm definitely panicking about Ibuka, who I have in our analyst league, you know, who I drafted in other spots as well.
42:26So, yeah, total panic on Ibuka. Any any difference of opinion here?
42:30No, total panic. I was worried about him. We talked about it on one of the summer shows that once he suffered
42:36that toe injury, that as a receiver coming into the season with a toe injury, was that going to linger?
42:41Even if you are healthy enough to get on the field, is that going to be a problem?
42:46Is that going to take away something from you?
42:49And it kind of seems like it has. Like he doesn't really seem like the same guy, at least not the same
42:55guy that we saw early last season before he got hurt.
42:58Right. So definitely total panic on him. And this is another offense where just not excited about a lot of the guys on this offense.
43:04A lot of these receivers, you bump and God went down.
43:08I think he's basically droppable. Jalen McMillan's hurt again.
43:10Might be a lost year for him. Came into the season hurt.
43:13Now he's injured again here. Ted Hurst is like kind of an interesting stash.
43:17But without the quarterback situation solved there, you can't get too excited about him.
43:21Like I wanted to put him as one of the players in the waiver wire this week.
43:26And I mentioned him in one of the categories, but I wasn't going to write him up because we don't know what we're getting from the quarterback position.
43:33We don't know if this offense is going to at any point get on rhythm, get comfortable out there.
43:38I will say, though, Jalen Daniels is an interesting prospect.
43:41I do kind of like him, Harmon. I wrote about him in January when I did my prospect evaluations way before he got drafted by the Bucs here.
43:49And even when he went into camp there, he was just looking like he was going to be the number three.
43:55He won the number two job, can run a little bit, can scramble a little bit.
43:59He's just a guy that like carries himself with a lot of poise.
44:02I like how he carries himself off the field as well.
44:05I think he could be interesting. Doesn't seem to get rattled very often on the field.
44:10So I want to see him go out there and see what he could potentially do in this offense.
44:15Because the way Baker was playing, the bar is set pretty low right now.
44:19So don't be surprised if Daniels gets out there and actually looks kind of decent.
44:23We use that drafted by the Bucs. He's an undrafted player.
44:26I mean, it's crazy that he earned the backup job.
44:29Yeah, he ended up on the Bucs. But still, that just goes to the point that pretty crazy that he is the immediate backup quarterback.
44:36He's obviously earned that job. I'm open to it.
44:38It will be interesting to see what it looks like because it really has looked poor with Mayfield through three games.
44:44I know I seem harsh on the guy, but it's just been really, really bad.
44:48Especially considering that he really advocated for himself to get that contract prior to the season.
44:52They gave him the contract, and now it's been such a bad product.
44:56Look, I think this is going to be a lost year for this Bucs offense.
45:00Unless Daniels really just knocks our socks off here the next few weeks.
45:03I think it's over for Todd Bowles. I think it's probably over for just the whole coaching staff.
45:08I think it should be, honestly. They've got to be just so regretful that they didn't keep Liam Cohen in house and
45:14do whatever they did to make him the head coach.
45:17I think Abuka is a good player, and I actually think, like I said, I think he's played well on film so far.
45:23And he's in the role that we want, and Mayfield's just made it impossible to really have consistent success.
45:29What would you be doing with a guy like this in Dynasty where it's probably a lost season for him?
45:34Why what? I was just about to ask you the exact same question.
45:38I was curious because the way you're talking about him, I was going to tee you up for that one.
45:43And that isn't somebody that you'd be buying low in Dynasty because this seems like a lost year.
45:48Our heads are in the exact same. Even we missed all this time the last few weeks, Armin, and we're still in sync like that.
45:55Yeah, I think I would still be buying low on him.
45:58You might be able to wait even a little longer, though, and let that price drop a little bit more if Mayfield's going to be out.
46:05Because while I'm saying that I like Daniels, I don't know that he's coming in to be some magic fix for this offense.
46:11If he comes in and just does a competent job, that's actually pretty good for a guy of his stature, right?
46:17So I don't think he is going to be the complete answer that's going to save them.
46:22And because of that and because of how it looks so far, the value is probably going to drop.
46:27So he might be able to wait a little bit, buy low in a few weeks, and then you hold him and
46:33you don't even expect much the rest of the way until next year.
46:37Yeah, I just asked that because I updated my dynasty rankings for wide receivers while I was flying out to San Diego last week.
46:43And I have him at wide receiver 17. The market currently has him at wide receiver 15.
46:48If you look at the aggregate sources, I would expect my ranking to probably hold around there and the market to come
46:54down as we continue to get some maybe disappointing results.
46:56So I like your thought to maybe if you want to buy, wait a few weeks here and see kind of what
47:03happens because I just see like the Twitter sentiment on Ibuka.
47:06A lot of, you know, I like the player.
47:08So maybe this is my own bias is showing, but I feel like I see a lot of confirmation bias of like, yeah, see, he wasn't this guy.
47:16He's never been this guy in the first five weeks were a fluke.
47:19So maybe there's going to be more of that sentiment going forward.
47:22And yeah, again, I think he's played well, but unfortunately just in a tough spot with the way things have rolled out this year.
47:29Okay, let's get to some more panic meter submissions here.
47:32And we've got to talk about Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
47:35And I love the way that our guy Jeff B sets this email up.
47:39Guys, this is my third submission on Justin Herbert in three weeks.
47:42I was in coping corner mode last week, but had a ray of hope this week going up against the Bills with
47:48the coming gauntlet of defenses from here to week 12.
47:51Let's put Herbert and the entire Chargers offense in the coping corner.
47:54No complaints about Hampton. No complaints about Ladd. Was anybody ever complaining about QJ?
47:58Just deal with it. We were wrong. Thanks. Just to put some context before I respond to that, to the next 12
48:04weeks, the defenses that our guy Jeff is outlining here.
48:07They just played the Bills. They get the Seahawks in Seattle this week.
48:10Woof. The Broncos, the Chiefs, bye week. Rams, Texans, Ravens, Jets, Patriots, Bucks, Raiders.
48:14It does lighten up at some point. Not these next few weeks here.
48:17So where are we at with the Chargers offense, Boone?
48:20Because I'll tell you, I am 100% in agreement with Jeff here.
48:23We need to stuff the entire offense in the coping corner because we were indeed wrong about how this is going to
48:30play out with Mike McDaniel and the entire fireworks show we're getting.
48:33Maybe it stabilizes at some point, but we were definitely wrong about the entire offense and what it's going to be this year.
48:39Yeah. Normally, I want to give new coaches or new coordinators a little bit of time, right?
48:44Where you can be like, okay, it's just the first couple weeks.
48:47They're eventually going to figure it out. But it's exactly the problem is exactly what we're bringing up there.
48:52Look at that schedule, right? Where are they figuring it out?
48:55Like if they weren't getting anything going against the Bills, who frankly are not a great defense.
49:00I can say that about my Bills. Yeah. They are not good.
49:03Maybe as the year goes along, they're a team that with the new coordinator are eventually going to figure it out.
49:09But right now, most people are going to be able to move the ball on them.
49:13The Chargers just look awful. And now you're going Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs, then the bye Rams, Texans, Ravens.
49:18Those are the ones that I'm looking at. After that, like you said, it gets a little bit better.
49:23There's a few weeks in there that you'll be able to maybe play some matchups.
49:28But those six surrounding a bye is absolutely awful.
49:30And I don't feel good about having any investments in this offense.
49:33Lad McConkie is the only one that you're probably putting in your lineup and you're like, all right, he'll be OK.
49:39Hopefully, a Marin Hampton not really feeling great about where we expected his career to go this year.
49:44We thought there was a chance for a breakout.
49:46Doesn't look like that's going to happen for him.
49:49It's just awful all around here, Harmon. And I don't see a lot of pads out of this for at least the next couple months.
49:56Nope, I don't either. And look, football is a weird game, right?
49:59Football is so weird that there is totally a universe where I could look back in a month from now and be
50:05like, I can't believe that the Chargers struggled against the Cardinals, Raiders, and the Bills.
50:09And then Justin Herbert had these great games against the Seahawks and the Broncos.
50:13I totally can see that happening just because that's how weird football is.
50:16But there's nothing right now that would give me any indication of that, especially because what is going right for this offense right now?
50:23I think Lad McConkie is playing well. He is actually – and I was kind of surprised to see this when I
50:29looked this up to try to find a Drake London stat.
50:32And then it turned into like, oh my gosh, Lad McConkie is 10th in the NFL in yards per route run among wide receivers right now.
50:39He just hasn't been able to have a lot of fantasy success because of the injuries and just the fact that this offense stinks.
50:46So I would say I'm kind of at no panic on McConkie as a starting fantasy receiver.
50:50But him being the next Jackson Smith and Jigber or whatever, that's not going to happen in this offense.
50:56The rest of these players, QB 32 in points per game, Justin Herbert, coping corner.
51:00Amarian Hampton, I'm going to say total panic on him.
51:02QJ, if you want to throw him in there, he's coping corner for me too.
51:07So, yeah, we're just not going to take submissions on the Chargers offense going forward because everything is going wrong for this team, including Herbert.
51:13Like that interception he threw to Chauncey Carter-Johnson is just so inexcusable.
51:17Like there's nothing on the coverage it would tell you to throw that.
51:20You're also, I think, throwing it to MVS on that play.
51:23What is – it's just – everything is wrong right now with this Chargers team.
51:27And it's just – it is really unfortunate. We always want to talk about guys ending last season hot and then coming into this year.
51:34And like picking up where they left off. It's like Herbert's picking up where he left off and it was bad down the stretch last year.
51:41And we blamed it on the offensive line and all these different things.
51:45And yet, man, it doesn't look much different right now.
51:48Just totally unusable. And I think the other thing to mention with him is there's so many good quarterbacks that you can
51:54play that you just don't even have to get into the conversation with Herbert.
51:57If you have him right now, I would actually just drop him.
52:01We'll talk about some of the players that we're dropping later.
52:04And he's one of them for me. I don't want to deal with it.
52:08I'm going to go out, find a quarterback, or I'm going to stream off the waiver wire.
52:12I am not going to put him with the way that he's looked up against these defenses that we've rattled off over the next few weeks.
52:19That is a scenario that you were just asking for your fantasy season to be ended.
52:24Yeah, the places where I had Herbert, I did not play him this week if I could avoid it, including our analyst
52:30league where I played Kyler Murray instead of Justin Herbert.
52:32Which, you know, shoot, that didn't go all that well.
52:35But at least I was not going to play Herbert this week.
52:38That is for sure. I'm actually going to go out of order of the outline here, so I apologize to the producers.
52:44But you gave me a clean transition to go to the next quarterback we're going to talk about.
52:49Because talk about a guy who ended last season very poorly and is picking up right where he left off.
52:55That would be quarterback Drake May of the New England Patriots.
52:58We got a ton of Drake May submissions here.
53:00This just Drake Icepick says, Drake May has cost me a few games.
53:04Cousins and Mariota would have gotten me a W this week.
53:07Rob said, we need AJ Brown back to make Drake May great again.
53:10Let me tell you what, buddy. That's not going to be enough.
53:14And then CC Baseball said, Drake May, he's absolutely killing me.
53:17He was thinking about starting Drew Locke over him if he was playing this week.
53:21Wondering if I need to make a trade. Yeah, here's the deal, Boone.
53:24Drake May, definitely coping corner to me. I can't see another way around this one.
53:29Yeah, I totally agree. He's absolutely coping corner. And I said this on Thursday, Shoharman, when you were gone, that in his
53:35rookie season, he had nine outings where he played at least 85% of the snaps.
53:39Never finished lower than QB 17. So like never gave you that like weak losing performance.
53:43It was always like average quarterback play or better.
53:45Then last year, he only scored less than 14 fantasy points once all season long.
53:50And we know how it finished for him, right?
53:52He showed us that he had that big ceiling finishes as the QB three overall and fantasy points per game.
53:58This year, he has been under 13 fantasy points in all three games.
54:01Only did it once last year. He's done it three times this year.
54:05So strange. I know we can blame the offensive line injuries.
54:08We can blame AJ Brown not being out there.
54:10And they kind of gambled big on that. But still, he should be playing better than this.
54:15What happened to that guy that showed us that floor in fantasy that was running to boost his fantasy value?
54:20He just looks totally discombobulated at the moment. And he's somebody that I also I don't want to drop him.
54:26But I did consider putting him on the drop list again because there's so many good quarterbacks out there that you could look to.
54:32But after what he showed us last year, it would be hard to drop him.
54:36And you have to put him on your bench for the moment.
54:40Play somebody else. Oh, I mean, look, this could come back and bite me.
54:43I would totally I would drop him. If we're dropping Herbert, I'm dropping May.
54:47I only and I've said this before on the show.
54:50I only ended up with with Drake May in one league because I timed out on the pick and it was a slow draft.
54:57And, you know, happens. I've been playing Jordan Love over him the last two weeks.
55:01And I'm just going to go ahead and just get I don't know.
55:04Maybe I don't have somebody to pick up this week.
55:07I'll keep him on the bench. I don't know.
55:09But I don't really know. There's a huge reason to hold him.
55:13There are 37 quarterbacks that qualify this year. He is 34 in quarterback points per game.
55:17The only three that are lower than him. Drake May Kyler Murray, who obviously kind of tough because he got knocked out the first week of the season.
55:25James Winston Cooper Rush. I mean, that's where Drake May is at this point.
55:29It's it's not been good for for Drake May.
55:31We will talk more about like the exact reasons why with Nate on a show later this week.
55:36So won't go into too much detail about what exactly what's happening with Drake May.
55:40I have a lot of thoughts on that and why, again, A.J.
55:43Brown coming back is probably not enough to fix everything here because Drake May is playing poorly, just like Justin Herbert is
55:49also making the problems for himself here. This is all part of the equation.
55:53But let's real quick. I want to I just want to touch on this quickly.
55:57What do you think about the backfield right now?
56:00To me, this is also just reminder Stevenson, Travion Henderson.
56:03I don't know if I want to say coping corner for these guys, but I'm definitely a total panic on this group,
56:09too, because it's a split backfield for what's a bad offense right now.
56:12I mean, I don't really feel good about starting either of these backs.
56:16I think I might be a little more optimistic on this one.
56:19I think I would only look at Stevenson as some panic.
56:22For me, you had the fumbles last week, right?
56:24In week two. And we saw Henderson get more work in that game.
56:28We saw Henderson break the big run. And I think a lot of people were talking like, OK, in a normal scenario,
56:34on a normal team, this might be the thing that would vault that young player into the starting role.
56:39And yet last week I kept saying, I don't think that's what's going to happen in New England.
56:44I think they're going to go back to being a committee.
56:47I think we're going to see Stevenson potentially get back out there and be the lead back.
56:52That's exactly what happened in this game. He was up over 50 percent of the snaps.
56:56I think we're going to continue to see that.
56:59I don't think that this is Henderson going to take over.
57:02I think we're going to continue to see Stevenson as the lead guy here.
57:05And you have to remember here, Harmon, the matchups have been very tough, right?
57:09The Seahawks in week one, very tough run defense.
57:12The Steelers and then the Jags, who are also just monsters against the run this week.
57:16So I had both these guys way down in the RB3 range.
57:19There's going to be some better matchups coming up, though.
57:22The Bills, the Raiders, the Jets, the Bears, the Dolphins, the Packers.
57:25Not nearly as tough. So I think we could see a little bit better from this rushing attack.
57:30There will be weeks that we see Stevenson find the end zone, maybe get his way up into the RB2 range.
57:36But really, you're looking at both these backs right now as sort of high end RB3s.
57:40We're going to need Henderson to hit a big play and he can do that in the run game or in the pass game.
57:47Or we're going to need Stevenson to fall into the end zone.
57:50So it depends on what your expectation level was before the season.
57:54But he was drafted as RB25. And I think he still belongs in that range.
57:58Yeah, that's a really good point about the schedule.
58:00Maybe that's some reason to be optimistic about any of these guys potentially turning it around here.
58:05So I like that a little bit of optimism there on Ramondre Stevenson.
58:08OK, last one we're going to get to before we take a break and go to the running backs.
58:14We'll go tight end on this one. Tucker Craft sends we got an email from Dominic V on Tucker Craft.
58:19Listen, guys, this is going to be just a weird one to read, but whatever.
58:23Listen, guys, I know Tuck Tuck is Yahoo Fantasy Starling Baby Boo Boo Bear.
58:27Oh, boy. But even in a game where they were down humongous and only ran the ball nine times, he couldn't get 30 yards.
58:34Is this a long term hold drop candidate or someone I shouldn't be panicked about?
58:38I think Tucker Craft, unfortunately, Boone belongs in the coping corner.
58:41I will say for now because he could get healthier.
58:43You know, he's coming back from a serious injury.
58:46He talked about snap count, pitch count. Maybe that just meant he wasn't expected to be himself for a while.
58:51But it's just like my stance on craft. And I did get to catch a little bit of you and Hayden talking
58:57about this on the Thursday night night cap because I was in the back of the Uber to the hotel from the San Diego airport.
59:04I was like, let me check in on my guys.
59:07You know, I was in the chat. I was supporting you guys.
59:10So I've heard a little bit of what you had to say about this.
59:14But my stance is there's a person wearing number 85 out there for the Green Bay Packers.
59:19That person is not Tucker Craft right now. So I think whoever that is belongs in the coping corner.
59:24Yeah, I mean, 84 percent roadshare in week two.
59:26That was up from 47 percent week one, 72 percent last week.
59:30I mean, eight targets in week three is 12th and targets among tight ends through three weeks here.
59:35I think he's lower than where he was. We drafted him as that mid range tight end one who maybe if he
59:41got healthy, had the ability to get up there into the elite guys like he was the year before, before he got
59:47hurt in the first half of the season. Right now, I think we're looking at him more as like a low end tight end one.
59:53Is that enough to put him in the coping corner?
59:56Like, I still think he's somebody that you can start at the moment.
60:00I think there will be better days. He gets the Buccaneers right.
60:03And this is the Bucs five for 78 one in week one to Mike Gusecki, Harold Fannin and Blake Whitehart combined for
60:09six for 71 and a touchdown in week two.
60:12I think the matchup's pretty good. We also need to watch here.
60:15A few of the injury analysts on social media have pointed out that Christian Watson at the very end of last week's
60:21game, and I didn't catch this at the time, but that he grabbed at his hamstring.
60:25It was like the final minutes of the game.
60:28He was running, kind of grabbed at his hamstring.
60:30Hopefully that's nothing because we know he had a bunch of issues with hamstring soft tissue stuff before.
60:35We want him to be right. He is on his way to being a potential league winner this year.
60:40But that's something to monitor because if Watson or if Matthew Golden ever missed time, we already know Jaden Reed's out.
60:46Then Kraft would have to take on a bigger role in this passing game.
60:50So I'm not ready to put him in coping corner yet.
60:53If you really want to push for it, fine.
60:55I think it's more just total panic. And I think we'll see him the further he gets removed from this injury.
61:01I think the better he's going to get for fantasy.
61:04I think that's totally fair. I'm willing to settle at total panic as well.
61:08Listen, I love Tucker Kraft. I think right now he's definitely he's not someone I would drop.
61:12And I have at least a couple Tucker Kraft teams.
61:15I'm not going to drop him, but I'm going to at least like take a peek at the waiver wire and see
61:21if I can maybe until he gets fully operational and is a set it and forget it starter.
61:26You know, then maybe I'll consider streaming other players ahead of him.
61:29Just a note on the schedule. You mentioned the Bucks matchup this week in week four bears, Cowboys, Lions, Panthers.
61:35Like that's a pretty good upcoming slate for this entire Packers offense.
61:38And without Jane Reed, it should be pretty concentrated.
61:40So while I don't think he is a set it and forget it must start player anymore right now.
61:46Again, this is all for now. My couching this with Tucker Kraft.
61:49He's at least someone I would not drop back to the point of the question here.
61:53Yeah, and we'll get to the waiver wire section later and we'll talk about some of the tight end options.
61:59It all comes down to who you have. And there are a couple guys you could pick up on the waiver wire
62:05who I would consider over him this week. But you got to get one of those guys.
62:09You can't just be playing any tight end to streamer over Tucker Kraft.
62:13All right, we're going to take our first quick break.
62:16We come back. We're talking about running back submissions to the panic meter.
62:19We'll get into that right after this. All right, we're continuing to take your submissions to the people's panic meter.
62:25Let's get into the running back section here. Boone first one up David Montgomery.
62:29Jack B P sends in what's going on with David Montgomery.
62:32Are the Texans truly that bad? Will the triumphant return of Nico Collins fix the offense enough for the run game to work again?
62:38A little bit of a mixed answer here because the return of Nico Collins will absolutely help this team.
62:43And I said this to one of my subscribers in Discord asked me like, which receiver benefits with Nico Collins?
62:49I'm like, nobody. They are they are effed without Nico Collins on offense.
62:52And so far, so good on that prediction. Although the Dalton Schultz obviously scammed his way to a nice week, too.
62:58But yeah, Nico is one of those guys that you remove him.
63:01He his absence impacts the entire offense. But it has been really bad for Montgomery ever since what was kind of a
63:07touchdown deodorant to shout out Scott there. A touchdown deodorant week number one for him.
63:12What's your level of panic on Dave Montgomery? Because I will say it's a total panic for me if I had Dave
63:18Montgomery, which I don't have any Dave Montgomery fantasy teams.
63:20But if I did, I'd be totally panicking right now.
63:23So I view him kind of similarly now to Ramondre Stevenson.
63:26I think he's in the same range fantasy wise.
63:28I think the difference here is just in preseason expectations, right?
63:31Because David Montgomery, we were looking at him like maybe he could be a fantasy RB, too.
63:36If everything went perfectly and he had the massive amount of volume, maybe this could be like a Joe Mixon style situation
63:42from a couple of years ago in this Texans offense.
63:45This is not the same Texans offense, and they are not approaching this the same.
63:49Woody Marks is heavily involved out there. They're sharing the workload.
63:52The rushing attack also just like it doesn't have the juice like we're just not seeing it from them.
63:57So Montgomery is now in that same kind of Ramondre Stevenson, like touchdown or bust RB three kind of range.
64:03That's startable like you can use him in fantasy, but I don't think you can expect much more than that.
64:08So, yeah, not very excited about him. I'll go with total panic for now.
64:12I would not be shocked at all if he ends up in the coping corner in the weeks to come, though.
64:18Yeah, the silver lining here is in the next four weeks before their week eight by.
64:22They have the Cowboys, the Titans, the Jags and the Giants.
64:25So there are some matchups there where you might start Dave Montgomery, and it will definitely be better with Nico.
64:31Like the offense is just it's not functional without Nico Collins because they're they're outside.
64:35I don't know why they don't play Jalen. No, there maybe is there something I don't maybe there's something I don't know about.
64:41But I think he's a talented player that would help them.
64:44They just don't play him enough. And their outside receivers are just it's like the worst outside receiver group in the league
64:50without Nico Collins and Jaden and Jaden Higgins. Like that is what it is.
64:54You're not going to score a lot of points, especially when you're offensive line.
64:58It's different players, but it's not better than it has been in previous seasons.
65:01And the other thing about this that I think is actually bad for Montgomery, even when Collins gets back and even when
65:08the matchups get better, this defense is very good.
65:10But it's probably not like best in the league so far.
65:13Like you can pick on the linebackers. Read Blankenship has not been that great for them so far.
65:18So I think that's a problem for Montgomery being, you know, one of the bull cases for him is, oh, he'd be
65:24this lead back for a team that's always going to have a have a have a lead.
65:29Like they're going to be ahead in these scripts and have a positive game scripts that might not happen consistently.
65:34If the defense isn't one of the two or three best in the NFL and is rather like five to seven in the defensive rankings.
65:41No, it's a really good point. Yeah, that this is not kind of the script that we signed up for going from losing both of those receivers.
65:48I'm glad you brought up Jaden Higgins because I think that's a huge part of this.
65:53He was like a potential breakout candidate this year.
65:55So you put him across from Nico Collins. All of a sudden, you have a ton of firepower in this passing attack.
66:01And now they're operating with neither of those guys.
66:04And yeah, the defense is just it's not the same shutdown unit that it was a year ago.
66:09So I think I agree on all those accounts.
66:11Total panic for now. Hope it doesn't get worse.
66:13All right. Next one up here is Jadarian Price.
66:16John sends in Jadarian Price and said, what in the timeshare hell is this?
66:20I fear that we should start calling him Cancun because he's stuck in a timeshare that we can't get out of.
66:25Nice work on that one, John. My panic level on Jadarian Price is only at some panic here, Boone.
66:31And you tell me if you feel differently on this one.
66:34But the way I looked at it was I wasn't expecting Jadarian Price to be great to start off because he's a rookie running back.
66:41And usually, you know, second half of the season, that's when you see the rookies take off.
66:45But that was probably the only reason I said some panic on Price.
66:49You certainly have to be worried that he is in a timeshare and hasn't just like fully earned this job.
66:54He had the fumble. Fun fact here from Stat Muse.
66:57Jadarian Price has more fumbles lost in three games than Kenneth Walker has in his entire career.
67:02By the way, I don't know if we've said this on the show, but this is one of those.
67:07And I'm saying this is the lead advocate for big receiver.
67:10But when you're a team that signs Rashid Shaheed for the same contract that Kenneth Walker got elsewhere, I think we might
67:16have jumped the shark on the running back versus receiver value in certain spots.
67:20That's just like a side note on this one.
67:22But yeah, certainly not feeling great about where Jadarian Price is right now.
67:26Where are you at with him? I'm willing to go total panic on this one because I had a different view of
67:32how this was potentially going to play out. I thought this early season stretch was his chance to really take over this
67:38backfield, show that he deserved to be that first round pick, that they're going to build this rushing attack around him.
67:43The competition wasn't going to be as tough as it might be later in the season when Zach Charbonnet comes back.
67:49And we don't know when that's going to be probably around midseason.
67:52We know this coaching staff love Zach Charbonnet. And yet, and perhaps this was foolish on my part, they've come out, really run this as a committee.
68:00Now, there was an injury there in week two that obviously factored in.
68:03There was the fumbles, of course. And we saw this week he kind of got sat down because of it.
68:09But they've used Emmanuel Wilson. They've used George Lonnie, a whole bunch here.
68:12And that's a problem because, again, Charbonnet is coming back as well.
68:16It's not like I don't see the runway for him to all of a sudden take on this big workload.
68:21I think it's going to continue like this. I feel like I should take the L because in the summer, Josh and
68:27I, we did that live show on Buffalo. We were talking up Janarian Price as somebody that was kind of getting overlooked, getting slept on a little bit.
68:35He was falling to like the sixth round. And the premise was simple, that he was going to be the back on
68:41the Super Bowl champion offense that wants to build around the run.
68:44And they do, but they want to use a whole bunch of backs.
68:48And also this rushing attack just hasn't really got going like they don't look that great.
68:52Part of that probably is not having a guy like Kenneth Walker or not having a healthy Zach Charbonnet out there.
68:58But still, this team has had to pass more.
69:00We saw it this week. Sam Darnold threw the ball a whole bunch.
69:04They end up losing that game. I don't love this, Harmon.
69:07I don't love this at all. I'm worried about the direction this is going in for Price.
69:12I don't really see that path to him becoming a really meaningful fantasy asset because I think he's going to have to
69:18share the workload all year long, just like they did with Kenneth Walker last year until the final stretch.
69:23Yeah, totally fair. If he has a poor man's Kenneth Walker season, I think that wouldn't be shocking at all at this point.
69:29And he's on track to have something worse than that.
69:32So I would just, again, I don't want to totally panic on a rookie this early into his career, but he's not established.
69:38He's not establishing that momentum, as you mentioned here.
69:41There's no question about that. So certainly some level of panic.
69:44Not a guy you can start at all right now.
69:46I would try to not drop him just because I've seen this story before.
69:50Rookie running back gets off to a slow start.
69:53You drop him, and then he ends up on your league mate's team as they win the championship, which I don't know
69:59if that's going to happen for Price. But for that reason, Boone, I would at least, and I'm sure you agree, I'd
70:05try not to drop Price at this point. Yeah, I think he's still in that RB3 flex type mix right now, and
70:11there's always a chance that he could get going here.
70:13But I'm just not that hopeful at the moment.
70:16Okay, next one comes from Trey Scouts NFL. Does not feel like Chase Brown is seeing many high value touches.
70:21I think I'm at no panic on Chase Brown, who is the running back 13 on the season, but he's only averaging 8.57 points per game.
70:28So, you know, it's certainly not been what you wanted if you took him very early.
70:33But I think it will probably come for Chase Brown, I guess.
70:36I don't know. I was at no panic, but do you think I should be a little bit higher on this?
70:42No, I agree. No panic. However, I think there's a very specific way to approach this.
70:46They play the Jags defense this week, and we've already mentioned on the show, the Jags defense just absolutely shuts down the run.
70:52It is very difficult to run against them. So I'm not expecting him to have a good week this week.
70:58I think that's when you go buy low. I think that is the smart move.
71:02If you want to do it this week, knowing that he's probably not going to have a great game and the other
71:08manager is going to see that the Jags are the matchup.
71:11And if they're smart, they're going to go, oh, man, he's going to have another bad game.
71:16Maybe that might make them a little more willing to sell him.
71:19But regardless, he's somebody that you want to buy low on.
71:22He's playing over 70% of the snaps. He's getting all kinds of volume.
71:26He's getting used in the passing game. Samajin Pirine's taking like three, four touches a week.
71:30That's nothing to be that concerned about. Brown has 21, 23, and 15 touches so far.
71:34You have a guy that is involved in the passing game, a guy that's in a pretty good offense.
71:40I think he's obviously just a buy low. And if it's not this week, it's definitely going to be next week.
71:45So expect to see me writing about him as a buy low and expect to probably see everybody in the industry talking
71:51about him as a buy low next week. Love the way you laid that out.
71:55That's a good approach there. Okay, let's get to the last one here.
71:59And I just wanted to note this one because we talked about Travis H.N.
72:03earlier. But I do think I talked about it with Scott last week.
72:06And I think we've got to put Travis H.N.
72:09in the coping corner. Now, obviously, it's easy to say that now he's going to miss time with injuries.
72:14But this one from C. Miles, Jadarian Price and Travis H.N.
72:17As a Jamar Chase manager in 12 team leagues, I never got a chance to draft any of the good running backs
72:23and ended up with a team where these two were these two.
72:26Price and H.N. are my running backs, along with Remondra Stevenson.
72:29Pretty sure my season is already over. Yeah, not great.
72:32It's certainly not great. It's not over. I want you to keep fighting and competing.
72:36But this is part of the reason, Boone, you and I said consistently all through the summer, we did not want you
72:42to come away from the first four rounds with.
72:45I mean, I said, like, you need to come away with two running backs.
72:48Okay. So and by the way, this is a good stat here from our colleague, Josh.
72:53He noted that right now through the first and this is early and I think this might change.
72:58But he said tight end 17 is averaging more points per game.
73:019.1 than the wide receiver 33 8.8 and running back 25 8.5 this season.
73:05And he said they say it every week or they say it every show, but there's never been a better time to
73:11consider tight ends in your flex spots. I think it'll probably kick up for the wide receivers and maybe the running backs.
73:17But this is why I did not want to be going.
73:20And I love wide receivers, but zero RB or any of that stuff this year, because the run game has never been
73:26more important in the modern NFL than it is right now.
73:29And these high I mean, I talk like talking about my analyst league.
73:33I've made some like, oh, I have a Buka.
73:35I have Justin Herbert. The reason I'm shout out to me three and oh in that league is I have Derek Henry and James Cook.
73:42Okay, like these foundational running backs right now are saving butts, including mine in fantasy.
73:46So, you know, it's again easy to say this now.
73:49The season's already started, but I think zero RB like it can work in certain ways if you hit all the right buttons.
73:55But it's just tough when these are your running back.
73:58So again, long story short here. I do think Travis A.
74:01Chan should be a coping corner candidate because I do think he's unfortunately going to go down as a pretty rough pick
74:07this year based on how things have gone. You know, it's wild about Josh's stat there.
74:11I did a video before the season for tight end premium leagues and it was like three tips.
74:16And one of the tips was basically exactly this.
74:19But that was the scoring last year in tight end premium.
74:22I was talking about on tight end premium. The tip was like, don't be scared to use your tight end in the flex.
74:28And the stat was almost similar to that. It was like the same ranges.
74:32So it's wild that we're getting that kind of production this year and not even in tight end premium.
74:37I haven't looked at the tight end premium numbers, but man, it probably goes even deeper this year.
74:42You're probably looking at tight end 25, tight end 30 that you could use as a flex and tight end premium.
74:48But yeah, there are a ton of tight ends this year that you can use.
74:52That's a very smart call there by Josh. And sadly, yes, A.
74:55Chan not coming through for the Saints this year.
74:57And I don't know who's coming through for them.
75:00We'll talk about it in the waiver wire section, but they seem just totally committed to running a three man backfield.
75:06It's been a different three man backfield here for a couple different weeks.
75:09And it hasn't been that productive overall, unfortunately. Yeah, they're going to be one of these, I don't know, weird collegiate teams where it's a total mix.
75:16Like of backfield. And then they're just throwing the football like crazy.
75:20That's how the Saints offense is going to be this year.
75:23So who's coming through for them is Chris Olave.
75:25It's Devon Bailey. It's Juwan Johnson. It's Tyler Shuck.
75:28Like that's who's coming through for the New Orleans Saints and maybe eventually Jordan Tyson.
75:32Yeah, just to put a finer point on this guys like Noah Fant, 9.5 points.
75:36Darren Waller, 9.4 points. Jake Ferguson, 9.2. Mike Gusecki, 9.17.
75:39Sam Laporta, 9 points. Guys that we were drafting very early, you know, Emeka Ibuka, Terry McLaurin.
75:43Some guys we're about to talk about here in just a second are under 10 fantasy points per game.
75:49Again, I think that's going to change over the course of the season, but it's just where we are right now with
75:55the wide receiver position where things can be very up and down.
75:58So let's get into that. Let's get talking about the wide receiver panic submissions here, starting with one of those players who
76:04is below all those tight ends I just laid out in points per game, which is Jalen Waddell.
76:09Kelly Trainer 7 says, the targets are fine, but it's feast or famine, mostly famine.
76:13Neighbors also, they submitted them because QB change injuries.
76:15He's been pretty useless so far. So Boone, I'm going to say I'm at some panic, but very little.
76:21Some panic, though, on Jalen Waddell based on how things have gone because he had a great week to not ideal in
76:27the first two weeks of the season, which, of course, were island games.
76:30Everybody overreacts to island games, but I definitely think his role is going to be more volatile than it was what I
76:36was expecting this season, but still think he's capable of having massive weeks and think he'll be a fine receiver, too.
76:42Yeah, I don't know. I think two to two bad weeks, one good week.
76:46That's pretty standard at the receiver position. Do you think I am not panicking enough?
76:50No, I'm with you. I think you laid that out pretty well there for him.
76:54It's some panic for me. And I feel bad, Harmon, because I remember in the summer I pointed out that back in
77:00like late May or early June, we had done a show and Waddell came up.
77:04We talked about him. And at the time, I wasn't that high on him.
77:08I didn't see a lot of people in the industry talking about him.
77:11And you highlighted that you were pretty high on him.
77:14You had a really aggressive ranking. It forced me to go back and look at him more.
77:19I'm not blaming you for this. It just gave me that spark to go check it out more.
77:24And when I checked it out, I also kind of fell a little more in love with him.
77:29And then I started pumping him and writing about him more, and I moved him up in my rankings.
77:34And right now it's not looking great. I think that initial take I had where he's more of that like low end wide receiver, too, is probably accurate.
77:41I don't see the high end outcome for him.
77:44It also seems a little matchup based, right? Like you went against the Chiefs and the Rams.
77:49Those are tougher matchups. Didn't come through in those games.
77:51So maybe we have to take that into consideration with him a little more that when he is in some of these
77:57tougher matchups and with the Broncos offense, just kind of as a whole struggling right now.
78:02They don't really look that great. I think maybe we have to look at him as more matchup based if we're going
78:08to move him up the rankings ever. But yeah, still like a low end wide receiver, too.
78:12That's fine. And yeah, just some panic on him.
78:15Yeah, some panic matchups coming ahead. Niners, Chargers, Seahawks, Cardinals, Chiefs again, Panthers before a week 10 by there's going to be
78:21spots there where he really goes crazy. Unfortunately, we've just seen that like Bonix hasn't taken a step forward this year.
78:27The offense has definitely struggled turning over to Davis Webb.
78:29So I probably should have considered those variables maybe a little bit stronger because you mentioned I had probably just too aggressive
78:35of a ranking on Jalen Waddle where I think where he ended up in ADP, which is like a fourth round pick.
78:41I think he returns that value for you, but probably doesn't way out kick that.
78:46I hope I'm wrong because I was I still like the way Waddle's playing.
78:49And I think, you know, again, if he comes down with a couple of these catches that he's dropped over the first
78:55three weeks, then we're probably talking about a different story.
78:58And he did have one of the most impressive plays I saw all of week three.
79:02It just unfortunately wasn't a touchdown. It was a two point conversion.
79:06We'd be having a different conversation if it was a touchdown.
79:09But still. So, well, yeah, I'm just at some panic.
79:12Mr. Waddle has put me in a tough spot, not in the expert league, but in our other staff league that we have.
79:18I'm going against our boy Hayden and I thought I was about to cruise to the victory.
79:22I had Waddle left and I had Saquon Barkley left and he only had Devonta Smith.
79:27And now we're essentially tied going into tonight and it's Barkley versus Devonta Smith.
79:31So hopefully Barkley pulls that one out for me.
79:33That's interesting. Do you do you know who has Jalen Waddle in the expert league?
79:37I'm guessing it's you probably. Yeah, it's me. And do you remember what I said my record was earlier?
79:42We're coming for you. Don't worry. You are not going to be atop the mountain much longer.
79:47Okay, sure. Well, I guess I'm going to say that a slow start.
79:51Don't worry. I'm coming. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
79:53We'll see. I'm only saying that for the YouTube comments that are going to light me up about Jalen Waddle.
79:59They're like, well, I drafted Jalen Waddle because you and it ruined my season.
80:02Well, I drafted Jalen Waddle because of me and I'm three and oh.
80:06So I don't know. You know, figure it out.
80:08All right. This whole lineup here. That's the deal.
80:11But yeah, definitely a little worried about how Waddle started, but not total panic.
80:15Just some panic. I actually think if you can, if your lineup is built for it, you could probably make a trade for him.
80:21And because people are so freaked out because of the two Island games and they're not counting the week two game where he was awesome.
80:28Maybe a decent trade target there right now. Okay.
80:31Next one up. Teddero McMillan. This one I think is a little bit more complicated.
80:35The Panthers offensive line doesn't hold up to pressure.
80:37I don't see him getting a lot of looks in the short to intermediate range.
80:41Tet. Remember, he doesn't want to be called Tet.
80:44Also looks slow. I know he added weight this offseason, but the weight does not look great.
80:48In my opinion. Would love to hear your thoughts.
80:51I'm, I'm at some panic on McMillan and maybe I should be a little bit higher than that Boone because there's some
80:57really good observations here from Mikey who sent this tweet in about the, the, the Panthers offensive line allowed a ton of
81:03pressure on Bryce young, which then for McMillan with these long unfurling routes.
81:06I just charted this game here right before we hopped on the show.
81:10So can speak to this a little bit. He's like long unfurling routes where I agree.
81:14McMillan maybe doesn't look quite as explosive as he did, which could just be one game totally random, but it doesn't look quite as explosive.
81:21He did as a rookie. There's, you know, Bryce doesn't have the time to get to those routes.
81:26I also think, and this will inform our next player that we talk about to Boone.
81:30It's like more of a bigger picture thought. Well, I think sacrificial X, my term got a little overused this off season.
81:36There's definitely something to when you are, and this goes to the staff that we're about to highlight here from Joel, when
81:43you're the X receiver on your team and you are not clearly, clearly the best receiver on your team, you are definitely
81:49subject to losing targets and a lot more volatility.
81:51And unfortunately, Ted McMillan is a really good player, but he's not clearly, clearly better than Jalen Coker.
81:56You know, same again with the next player we'll talk about and a few others out there.
82:01It can just be a little bit more of a rocky ride than you want.
82:05So where are you at with McMillan? I ultimately ended up at some panic, but I could hear an argument for more panic than that.
82:12I'm only some panic. And I was surprised at this question.
82:15I mean, some really valid points there. I'm just surprised at it because it's like one bad fantasy outing so far.
82:2075 yards in the opener, 101 yards in the second game.
82:23You had to feel pretty good about the stats through those two games.
82:27Eight targets, 10 targets in those ones. I know this weekend they kind of got, you know, slowed down by the Browns
82:33a little bit there and Coker got banged up.
82:35Seems like he's going to be okay. But yeah, I don't think I can go more than some panic about a guy
82:41that topped 75 yards in two of his three outings so far.
82:45Yeah, eight points. If we're just looking at raw fantasy points, eight points and then 12.6.
82:49Like he certainly was not killing you the first two weeks, but he probably wasn't winning your week or whatever.
82:54And then such a down game in this last one.
82:57I think the argument there would be that, and I don't agree with this necessarily, but that Bryce Young, the first two
83:03weeks were a fluke and, you know, it's the defenses that they were playing.
83:07And now he's going to revert back to old Bryce Young.
83:10And I do think also because it's one of those things, Boone, where yeah, Teddero was totally fine and even good the
83:16first two weeks from a fantasy standpoint. But Coker was so much better than him.
83:20I think if I was to look at the McMillan thing just kind of without rose-colored glasses or without, you know, shaded glasses, whatever.
83:27I think it might be similar with Waddle where he probably returns the value of an ADP standpoint, maybe even as a
83:33small loss, but doesn't necessarily have the ceiling to outkick that, if that makes sense.
83:37Yeah. He's not going to be like a league winner type, right?
83:40He's not going to elevate his game or anything like that.
83:43But again, like they play the Lions in week four.
83:46You don't think they're going to be able to put up some points and move the ball in that Lions defense right now.
83:52So I would kind of be surprised if he doesn't have a good game in week four, and then we'll be talking
83:58about three decent games and one kind of bad game.
84:01So I'm not that worried. I'll say some panic, but I'm not that worried about him yet.
84:06Yeah, I'm at some panic too, and that's a great point.
84:09I don't think we should panic about anybody right before they play the Detroit Lions.
84:13That's the ultimate get right spot here. That is for sure.
84:16Okay. I did mention that some of that X receiver take was going to lead into our next one.
84:21Brian Thomas Jr. Mid-Ball-Knower says, BTJ's stat line through two weeks wasn't good, but he was comfortably second in targets.
84:26He now seems to have lost his job to Josh Cameron.
84:29Maybe he's hurt. We don't know it. It wouldn't be the first time the Jags were shady with the injury report.
84:35But is he droppable barring a trade? I wanted to include this one, Boone, because I do think Brian Thomas Jr., unless
84:41he gets traded, should be in the coping corner.
84:44Brian Thomas Jr. is clearly not the best receiver on the Jacksonville Jaguars.
84:47That is very clearly Parker Washington. And again, it's not that it's not that BTJ, I think, has been terrible in isolation,
84:53although he's going to he has some plays in week two that he definitely wants back.
84:58He's playing a relatively valuable role and he hasn't lost his job to Josh Cameron, but he's rotating with Josh Cameron because
85:04they like him as a dirty work blocker. And it's just like, I don't know what to tell you when you're in
85:10this low percentage X receiver role and Parker Washington is better than you.
85:13So you're going to you're not going to have consistent fantasy viability.
85:16Michael Florio, we put the we put the tweet up on the screen if you're watching with us on YouTube.
85:22He's basically calls him the Jags version of Marvin Harrison Jr.
85:25And that's exactly right. Marvin Harrison Jr. is in the same.
85:28Is it? He's in literally the same position where he is not clearly.
85:32And I think right now, pretty clearly not the best receiver.
85:35Not even talking about tight end Trey McBride from a wide receiver.
85:38Like Parker Washington is better than Brian Thomas Jr.
85:40And Michael Wilson, even coming into the season, like these guys are in the same tier to me.
85:45And now it's like clearly it's Parker Washington, Michael Wilson.
85:48And those guys play in the higher percentage roles in their offense.
85:51Just tough to roster these guys and expect any consistent production.
85:54They will have both Marv and Brian Thomas Jr.
85:57Will have games at some point this year. Good luck predicting when those are going to come and they're not coming for BTJ right now.
86:04So where do you stand on BTJ? Yeah, scoping corner all the way.
86:07I think he's droppable. Another guy that we're going to talk about when we get to the drop list later.
86:13And he's just in that group of like flex plays for fantasy.
86:16And you can almost always go to the waiver wire and get guys like that, that you can throw in your lineup
86:22as like a bi-week replacement or kind of a flex.
86:25So I don't really think there's that much of a reason to hold him other than like you said, if he gets
86:31traded somewhere else, if he goes to a contender before the trade deadline.
86:34But is that really going to happen? We've been sitting around waiting for a trade for him for like a year now, and it hasn't occurred.
86:41So I don't think you're sitting around holding him on your bench just for that.
86:45I'd be dropping him and picking up somebody else.
86:48Yeah, I would as well. Listen, I thought there was a chance that he would make this pretty close between him and Parker Washington.
86:54I was wrong about that because he just doesn't have the role.
86:58I thought he'd be an every down player for this team.
87:01He has not been an every down player for this team, which that makes it impossible.
87:05If he was running 80% of the routes and he had been up and down over the first few weeks, I would
87:11say live with some of that and try to chase some good matchups because they haven't been good matchups so far from a perimeter cornerback perspective.
87:18But the fact that Cameron is eating in and it's Myers and Washington is the top two receivers and that's a rotation afterwards.
87:24Yeah, he's just not somebody you can consistently count on at this point.
87:28And listen, the Jags are one of the best offenses in the NFL.
87:32It's hard to argue with how they're approaching things right now.
87:35Okay, last receiver we're going to talk about here.
87:37By the way, Boone, he also kind of fits into this theory of if you're the second best receiver on your team
87:43and you line up at X, it's going to be a bumpy ride for you and it's always a bumpy ride for Jamison Williams.
87:50Our Kapoor sends this in. Jamison looks disengaged and is an afterthought in a juggernaut Lions offense that has to score a
87:56ton because their defense is mediocre at best. How is someone so talented the fourth or fifth fiddle?
88:01I just don't get it. Well, let me tell you why because I'm on our same Brown is better and he always will be and always has been.
88:08Jameer Gibbs is better. Sam Laporta. It's been the last calendar year when Laporta is active and Jameau is active.
88:14I believe Laporta gets more targets and that's not really like a quality thing.
88:18It's just kind of how the roles work on the team.
88:21I would I'm at I guess I'm at total panic on Jamison Williams Boone, but I also know this is how the Jameau experience always goes.
88:28And at some point he's going to have a massive week.
88:31So I could hear this being just a some panic.
88:33But where do you think we should place him?
88:36Yeah, we're waiting for that boom week. I'm also total panic.
88:39It's probably on the lower end of that and you nailed it.
88:42He just he has a Sam Laporta problem, right?
88:45Like last year when Laporta was out from week 11 on Jamo was the wide receiver 12 and fantasy points per game.
88:51He averaged 7.3 targets per game during that stretch.
88:53Prior to that with Laporta, the wide receiver 39 through the first 10 games and he was averaging 4.8 targets per game.
88:59I would argue that like four for 45 in week one, four for 49 in week three.
89:04Like it's not like he's giving you nothing could be worse, but he is certainly now gone from where we drafted him
89:10as more of that low end wide receiver to or a guy that at least had that potential to be a top
89:1620 top 24 guy to now being in like the boomer bust wide receiver three area.
89:20Now talk about boomer bust. They play the Carolina Panthers in week four who just announced that JC Horn is going to miss a ton of time.
89:28Mike Jackson might not play in this game. Like we said, it's probably going to be a high scoring affair.
89:33Sunday night football. James Williams drops a hammer. I could totally see that happening.
89:37Okay, so you know, we're totally panicking about Williams, but we also acknowledge that the only reason we're totally panicking is that
89:43the Sam Laporta problem, as you said, like that's been now a two year sample here.
89:47And it's just the role that if you can't live with the James Williams volatility and look up at the end of
89:53the year and he's a top 20 receiver of one, even though it never felt like that, then you just shouldn't draft James Williams.
90:00But that is how the experience goes here. So our coping corner update coming out of this episode, the Chargers offense, Drake May, Brian Thomas, Jr., Travis A.
90:08Chan, Jr. I would also say like Marvin Harrison, Jr., obviously coping corner.
90:11There's probably a few others out there, maybe just all not best receiver on their team.
90:15Team X receivers should be in the coping corner.
90:18I don't know. We'll talk more about that. But yeah, so that's where we are at from a coping corner standpoint, Boone.
90:24It is what it is. These guys are no longer eligible to be to be submitted to the panic meter.
90:29These guys are in the coping corner. Any final thoughts?
90:32No, just that there were some guys that were close and are lucky that they are not in there.
90:37And I think they might end up in there in the next couple of weeks.
90:41So I look forward now that I'm back, that we're going to keep doing these shows.
90:46And I think those spots are going to fill up very quickly now.
90:49Yeah, we're going to have some more room on this graphic with the fire and all that.
90:54You know, we're going to have some more room with the coping corner.
90:58That is for sure. Okay, we're going to take a quick break.
91:01We come back. We're going to get into the waiver wire.
91:04Stick around. We'll be back right after this quick break.
91:07All right. Welcome to waiver wire targets presented by Duke cannon.
91:10The soap that is virtually bench proof. Each week we provide the top 10 list of Justin Boone's waiver wire targets.
91:15And we also go over players you need to drop or should consider dropping coming out of week three heading into week four.
91:22So, boom, let's get into the top 10 here.
91:24And, you know, now we don't have to talk about you behind your back with Scott anymore in your list.
91:30We actually get to hear your reasons and justifications for this.
91:33Let's start off with number 10. Keaton Mitchell running back Los Angeles Chargers.
91:36Oh, we're counting it down backwards. I love it.
91:39I'll say just kind of generally about this. I write the waiver wire column.
91:42People can check that out. It's very deep. It's not just these 10.
91:46I write up a few players at every position.
91:48I have categories breaking it down. So if you look at this list and you're like, all those guys are rostered in my league.
91:55Don't worry. You can go check out the column.
91:58I have players that are zero percent rostered in there.
92:00So you'll be fine. Go take a look at that.
92:03Now start with Keaton Mitchell here. This gives you an idea like where we're at in terms of waiver wire pickups, because Keaton Mitchell, not the most exciting.
92:11He is never going to be somebody that becomes a workhorse back, a guy that's going to become a league winner type.
92:17I don't see that for him. He would need a bunch of injuries.
92:20And even then, I imagine the Chargers would probably go out and get somebody else.
92:24But 39 yards in week two, 52 rushing yards and a receiving TD this week.
92:28You know, Marion Hampton, it hasn't been great. It hasn't been bad enough that he's going to lose his job.
92:34This is probably going to remain maybe more of a committee than we thought before the season.
92:39And that makes Keaton Mitchell somebody that you can play as an RB3 flex type.
92:43So you can go pick him up. There's a lot of people out there that are desperate for running backs.
92:48I'm one of them in our expert league, Harmon.
92:51I whiffed on Marshawn Lloyd. I'm kind of struggling and churning the bottom of my roster here to hope that I can hit on somebody.
92:57Keaton Mitchell is the kind of guy that you can do that with.
93:01You could drop him in your flex by yourself some time here.
93:04He'll give you a little something. Give you a little something.
93:07And look, we played or we showed the quote from Justin Herbert earlier in the show.
93:12And we threw that offense in the coping corner.
93:14Always good when you can throw an offense in the coping corner and then get to the waiver wire talking like, hey,
93:20you could pick up the backup running back from the coping offense.
93:23But he mentioned like, we need to try. I don't know what it is that's going to fix this, but we need to figure it out fast.
93:31We need to basically try something different. And yeah, maybe Keaton Mitchell is that something different can add a little bit of an explosive element here.
93:38He had the touchdown run that was a touchdown pass technically, I believe with Justin Herbert, but a little pop pass there where he got to the perimeter.
93:46Anyways, you know, maybe you can give him something.
93:48So not the most heinous pickup that you could make here.
93:51Let's go to it. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I was going to say it's also like when you get to this level
93:57of the top 10, it also comes down to like what you need.
94:01Right. So I didn't put a quarterback in the top 10 here.
94:04If you need a quarterback and not a running back, you can look at Sam Darnold this week.
94:09Like there are other options. Again, when you get to the needs, you can go check out the column.
94:14And that is why to your point, check out the column.
94:17We are reading again in 2026. Reading. Good for your brain as it turns out.
94:21So make sure you do that. Make sure you read Boone's columns.
94:24Okay. We're going to go two for the next one here.
94:27Nine and eight is a pair of Dolphins receivers.
94:30We can go ahead and just reveal both of them here.
94:33Malik Washington, wide receiver Dolphins. Number nine. Chris Bell, wide receiver Dolphins.
94:36Number eight. Not only are we dealing with the Devon HN injury, but Caleb Douglas also missed last week.
94:41So in week number three, Boone, you saw a little bit of something from both these guys in week number three.
94:47Now Malik Washington led the way in terms of route percentage.
94:5081% of the dropbacks. Chris Bell was 71%. 10 targets for Washington.
94:53Seven for Chris Bell. What did you see? And what are you kind of looking at with these two wide outs?
94:59I think Bell's really interesting. And I know there's a lot of talk that if it wasn't for the ACL tear last
95:05year, that maybe he could have been a first round pick.
95:08He's somebody that's come along very quickly in his recovery here to see him already out on the field and putting up
95:14four catches for 67 yards in week three. That's a great sign for him.
95:18I think he has the talent to really become the number one receiver in this offense this year.
95:23And we might already kind of be there now.
95:25It's going to be rocky. It's going to be up and down.
95:29We can't really count that this Miami offense is going to give you consistent production week after week.
95:34But he's somebody that I'm very excited about. I think he has the higher ceiling if you're picking between these two.
95:39Malik Washington is just like that really steady guy.
95:42He's top 50 scrimmage yards in every game so far.
95:45He's a wide receiver for flex. Really, they both are at this point.
95:48And again, you mentioned it earlier with a chance sideline.
95:51Now there might be some more targets that have to go to the receivers.
95:55So we'll see how this plays out, including Caleb Douglas is also someone in this offense and at this receiver position that
96:01you could go out and grab and stash. We're going to monitor his practice participation this week.
96:05But I know the coaching staff said that there's a chance he's going to be out there on Wednesday practicing.
96:11So he's day to day. We'll have to see how this all plays out.
96:15But if you're looking again, kind of like the backfield in Miami that we talked about earlier, we're going to talk about again here coming up.
96:22You're just looking at an offense that has so much opportunity that people aren't that excited about.
96:26And if someone can emerge and get that volume, they could give you surprising fantasy production.
96:31So these are guys that you can take shots on a little deeper.
96:34I do think that Chris Bell has the highest theoretical ceiling out of all of these guys this year, long term, the whole deal.
96:41I like I like what Caleb Douglas has shown.
96:43And I also think, by the way, that the Dolphins are doing the right thing of, you know, let's just throw these
96:49guys into the deep end of the pool and see if they sink or swim.
96:54That's the right thing to do. They actually I think next offseason, they probably should add some level of a steady veteran
97:00and maybe even a great receiver prospect if it comes to it.
97:03I don't know. But I think maybe they could come out of the season be like, hey, Chris Bell, Caleb Douglas, Malik Washington.
97:09We can we can work with these guys. I will note about Malik Washington, too.
97:13He could actually weirdly be a replacement for Devon H and in in some sort of ways.
97:18He has three rush attempts on the season. He had two carries in this past week against the Kansas City Chiefs.
97:24He was a guy that I liked as a prospect, kind of as a little bit of a slot design touches type of player.
97:30He's been in the slot on 42 percent of the snaps so far this season, 7.9 yards after catch per reception.
97:36You know, and again, he's kind of has been used as that design touches type player in Mike McDaniels offense, maybe a little bit less so far.
97:43But I did like Malik Washington as a day two type of prospect.
97:47And ultimately, I think it has been great so far in his NFL career.
97:51But certainly someone that I think could weirdly be a replacement for Devon H and in some of the design touches type of way.
97:57Because that's not going to even if Ali Gordon, who we're going to talk about, or even Jalen Wright, like those guys aren't going to be that way.
98:05Oh, look, Josh is he also felt the same way for showing the tweet on the screen here.
98:10There you go. I will also say, though, Herman, if you're grabbing these guys to play them this week, maybe you take
98:16more of a shot on Malik Washington because he's been the more consistent player because they're going up against the Vikings in Minnesota.
98:22Brian Flores, this Dolphins offense. I don't love this spot for them.
98:25So just keep that in mind. If they come out this week and it kind of looks ugly and their offense gets
98:31blown up after they just lost their best player, we'll give them a pass for this week.
98:36This is more of a long season play. Long term, you're going to grab them and hope that they can emerge.
98:42Yeah, we'll certainly look. I mean, maybe you're going to need some design touches against the Minnesota Vikings and Brian Flores and the whole deal.
98:49But the words of my old co-host, Andy Barons, are running around in the back of my head where he used to
98:55say not about this team necessarily, but this was his phrase.
98:58Yeah, I'm not really trying to find new and creative ways to invest in the 2026 Miami Dolphins.
99:03And I certainly think that that is true. That being said, I mentioned this earlier in the show.
99:08I think this might be the worst pass defense I've ever seen.
99:11And maybe even worse than the Dallas Cowboys of last year where I thought they were the worst pass defense I've ever seen.
99:17From a dropback EPA standpoint, they are pretty far and away.
99:20Cowboys, by the way, 31st at 0.408 EPA allowed, which is pretty close to the 30th team, which is the Arizona Cardinals.
99:26Then the Dolphins are all the way down at 0.46.
99:29I know like EPA allowed is a little tough to understand and kind of conceptualize there, but there's a healthy gap between 31st and 32.
99:36And there's an even healthier gap between 32 and 29 at 0.24.
99:39Okay. So, yeah, listen, there might be a lot of pass attempts for this Dolphins team coming up with no H and
99:45a really bad pass defense on the other side of it.
99:48So definitely if you're playing in a deep league, you start a lot of wide receivers.
99:52These guys are interesting to pick up. Okay. Let's get to number seven here on your list.
99:57Mike Washington Jr. On the Raiders, the Raiders number two back.
100:00And again, that gives you an idea of where we're at here with the pickups.
100:04But you look at him 41 yards in week one.
100:07That was against the Dolphins. So you're like, okay, 41 yards a week one.
100:11That's nice. Not much production or volume in week two against the Chargers.
100:14And then 54 yards and a touchdown this week.
100:17He had the long run for the touchdown. It just, it kind of looks like he has like an extra gear right now compared to Ashton Gentian.
100:24Maybe that's not surprising because Gentian had the ankle issue before the season this week.
100:28He was getting taped up on those ankles. So he might still be battling that a little bit.
100:33They talk though at one point this off season, we're getting both these guys work.
100:37And if Gentian is not a hundred percent out there, if he's trying to battle through this stuff, then absolutely.
100:43They're going to get Washington more involved. And the matchup this week's not great.
100:47They're going to go against the chiefs. We're going to get a real test here for the Raiders to see if this
100:53start for them is legit or not in this game.
100:55That's a tough matchup for the rushing attack. I don't know how much he'll have this week, but this is a guy that has to be rostered everywhere.
101:03If Gentie's injuries continue here, if he eventually misses time, Mike Washington Jr.
101:07is one of the best backups that you could have right now.
101:10He would vault right up into the top 20, maybe even the top 15.
101:14So excited about him. Like what we've seen in the preseason, like what we've seen so far this season.
101:19And he's a guy that could give you some flex value on top of having that big potential.
101:24If Gentie ever gets hurt. Yeah, totally. And yeah, he was a guy that got dropped a ton after week one should
101:30just, should just be on roster, especially because the fact like the Raiders are not a joke, whether they're their three and O start is going to last.
101:38That at least is a good sign long-term for the Raiders for sure.
101:41And definitely for this backfield, if you end up having to start some Mike Washington, if Ashton Gentie was to ever get hurt.
101:47But I do think it's smart to keep these guys in a little bit of rotation because, you know, look, Ashton Gentie's a good player.
101:54And I think he's, he's banged up coming into this year for sure.
101:58And maybe that is why to your point, Washington looks like he's got more juice.
102:02It also wouldn't be surprising, even if Ashton Gentie is the better back, if Mike Washington just has more juice, because Mike Washington has a ton of juice.
102:10For a team that can certainly use it there.
102:12Unless you got anything else on, on Washington, we can get to number six here.
102:16He's still available in 66% of leagues. So if he's out there in years, go get them.
102:21All right, cool. What do we got for number six on the list?
102:24This one, it was just, it was so tough to write this into the column, but I had to based on the situation, Alvin Kamara.
102:31We're putting Alvin Kamara in here and we can also talk about Kendra Miller here because they were both kind of splitting work.
102:37After Travis HN went down in this game, but this is a hamstring issue.
102:41Like we talked about off the top, they're saying that he's going to miss some time.
102:46We haven't gotten the update exactly what the recovery timeline looks like, but he's not going to be out there for the next little bit.
102:52So someone else is going to get volume. Kamara is very dusty.
102:56Kamara is washed. This is not the same Alvin Kamara that we remember from a few years ago.
103:01We've seen him just kind of consistently go downhill.
103:03When he gets volume, we don't see a ton of production from it.
103:07I mean, this guy's 31 years old, right? Like what do you expect from a 31 year old back who has the miles that he kind of has?
103:1422 yards on 14 touches in week two. That was ugly in his first game back there.
103:19Results were slightly better in this game. 41 yards on 10 attempts.
103:22But again, there's a lot of managers out there in fantasy who are very running back needy.
103:27They're trying to find somebody that they can just slot into that RB2 spot, into that flex spot.
103:32Kamara is probably going to get the volume. This could go any way though.
103:36So if you're looking to find like the sneaky, cheaper kind of ad, you could look to grab Kendra Miller and throw him on your bench.
103:43And maybe he gets opportunity if Kamara keeps struggling out there.
103:46But Alvin Kamara is somebody who's going to end up in that RB3 mix this week.
103:50You probably need him to find the end zone or have a big reception total in order to come through for fantasy
103:56and come through for fantasy as a relative term, because that probably just means that he gives you an okay day, not a huge day.
104:03But that's where we're at here. Kamara is somebody that you could pick up.
104:07We haven't made it to the top five yet.
104:09So we're still talking about these kind of guys.
104:12I think you laid that out well. Okay. Number five on your list.
104:15Who do we got here? All right. A little more exciting at least.
104:19And yet it's another super old guy here. Keenan Allen on the Colts.
104:22Alec Pierce on injured reserve. We don't know when he's going to be back.
104:26The Colts passing attack is now just consolidating around Josh Downs and Tyler Warren and Alan.
104:31And all three came away with pretty strong stat lines on Sunday.
104:34The fact that a 34 year old Alan is somebody that I'm recommending that you pick up is wild, but nine targets,
104:40six catches for 63 yards and a touchdown against that Texans defense that might not have the sharpest teeth that it had
104:46in the past, but it's still a fairly good defense.
104:49And he gets a much softer opponent coming up here.
104:51The Colts are heading to Washington. They'll take on that commander's defense.
104:55They're inside the top 10 for fantasy points allowed to receivers through three weeks.
104:59So I wouldn't overspend on a guy like Alan.
105:01Again, I mentioned earlier, we were talking about BTJ that you can get flex plays at receiver.
105:06What you're looking is for somebody who can give you a little more than that.
105:10Alan showed that he can give you more than that, right?
105:13With that stat line, 63 yards and a touchdown.
105:15So he's somebody that you could look to grab to throw in your lineup as a wide receiver, three flex option.
105:21Yeah, I think that's right on Keenan Allen. Like he can definitely be that guy because you said consolidation.
105:26And I mean, the consolidation was crazy in week three, 10 targets for Tyler Warren, 11 targets for Josh Downs.
105:32Oh my God. Thank God. Josh Downs is getting what we need here.
105:35It's happening. Nine targets. It's finally happening. Nine targets for Keenan Allen, who got the touchdown.
105:40The rest of the targets, Jonathan Taylor had three.
105:42Nobody else had more than one. Mo'ally Cox had one.
105:45Laquan Treadwell had one. And I trust Shane Sykin to continue making this happen because he's a good play caller the whole deal.
105:51So yeah, Keenan Allen against the commanders this week is probably going to be in that mix.
105:56If you're hurting at wide receiver, certainly someone that you can chase the opportunity there.
106:00And yeah, Tyler Warren, Josh Downs, those guys will continue to get it done.
106:04I do wish Tyler Warren could like, can he run a route downfield?
106:07Nine, nine catches, 10 targets, 55 yards, 2.5 air yards per target.
106:11I mean, it's wild that Josh Downs is their most effective downfield receiver at this point.
106:1514 air yards per target. I mean, I don't think it's wild.
106:18I think it's justified. My God, finally. But yeah, they could certainly use what they could certainly use an Alec Pierce with the functioning ankle.
106:25That is, that is for sure. When you look at this Colts offense, but feel good about where Josh Downs is.
106:31And what they have is Darius Slayton, who eventually will get up to speed and probably occupy that spot.
106:36The OG sacrificial X, by the way, like when I talk about sacrificial X's, I'm talking about Darius Slayton, not necessarily, well,
106:42Brian Thomas Jr., who we talked about earlier. Okay.
106:44Number four on your list. What do we got?
106:47Okay. Now we're getting real exciting here. And this guy, I think I would bump him up to the third spot if I knew he was healthy.
106:54But at the moment, I haven't seen an update today.
106:57I don't know where his ankle injury stands. All I know, Harmon, is Terence Ferguson in week two.
107:02He gets out there with Puka Nakua on the sidelines.
107:05Looks fantastic. Six for 54 and a touchdown. All the updates about Puka right now, I think are fairly negative that we
107:11don't know when he's going to come back. It's probably not going to be this week.
107:15We're not totally sure when it's going to be.
107:18A lot of the injury analysts suggesting that this is something that could linger, that could eventually have to lead to surgery.
107:24We'll see what happens with him. We don't want to speculate.
107:27We don't know for sure when he's going to be back.
107:30But when he's out of the lineup, Terrence Ferguson is an outstanding play in fantasy.
107:34You want to talk about tight ends that could be in your flex.
107:37He is absolutely one of them. And then you expect this game week three is going to go out there.
107:43He's going to do it again. And what happens?
107:45No, he gets hurt. Only ends up playing 26% of the snaps.
107:48And now he has this ankle injury and he spends a big chunk of the game just watching from the sidelines.
107:54And it hurt even more because Tyler Higby, old Tyler Higby, eight grabs, 62 yards and a score with Ferguson watching from the sidelines.
108:01So we're going to have to monitor for updates.
108:03We'll see if, you know, Ferguson's ankle injury is going to be okay enough for him to play this week.
108:09If we know that he is healthy and he's going to be out there and there aren't going to be any limitations.
108:15He's a guy that is a tight end one play.
108:17He is somebody that you can put in your lineup in the flex spot.
108:21He is somebody that I'm very excited to roster because we don't know what's going to happen to Puka Nakua.
108:27And if Nakua misses significant time at any point, Ferguson, it's just to the moon for him.
108:31Yep. Great call there. We spent a lot of time in the summer talking about how that could be.
108:37Terrence Ferguson is their wide receiver three essentially. And that is pretty much what has happened here so far when he's been healthy.
108:43Got to love him quite literally hopping to a first down against the Broncos.
108:47He's on one ankle there. So yeah, hopefully he can get and stay healthy.
108:51He's certainly a player that really matters. Ollie Gordon is your number three player.
108:54We talked a little bit about him at the start of the show, but just any additional thoughts about Ollie Gordon and this Dolphins backfield?
109:01No, I think it's just important to mention the Jalen Wright of it all like we did off the top that this could really go either way.
109:09Jalen Wright dealing with the injury. We'll see if he's able to practice this week.
109:13The coaching staff suggested that he might be able to.
109:15We could find out later in the week, like by Friday, that it's actually Jalen Wright who's going to start.
109:21I think regardless when both guys are healthy and out there, we're going to see some sort of committee backfield.
109:26We're going to see them both get touches. That just lowers the ceiling, right?
109:30Neither of these guys are Devon H. And like I mentioned earlier, the matchup with the Vikings this week is not great.
109:36So I have the fob bids for these guys fairly close.
109:39Seven dollars for Gordon. Three dollars for Wright. Eight again.
109:42This is if you're desperate. This is if you need a running back, somebody to throw in your lineup.
109:47This is not a guy who's coming in to save your fantasy season.
109:51Your number one and number two players on the list.
109:54What a time to be alive. Both play for the New York Jets and Boone.
109:58I think they're both really good pickups because this Jets team, I haven't updated my offensive efficiency metrics just yet, but just
110:04looking at the EPA and success rate, they're 11th in EPA per play.
110:07They're 15th in success rate are these New York Jets.
110:10And I get they just played the Lions and that's going to be kind of a big 12 collegiate type of game
110:16every single week with that defense, especially when they play inside.
110:19Nevertheless, the offense is functional. Gino played extremely well in week three.
110:22Number two, before we get to the number one players, Kenyon Sadiq, who is ninth in yards per game at the tight
110:28end position right now and had a hell of a catch for a touchdown in week three.
110:33Yeah, he was my featured tight end in the very first waiver wear column that I put out this year.
110:38And it was pretty obvious, like you could see the story for him, right?
110:42He was injured in the preseason. We knew he was going to get brought along slowly.
110:47He gets out there week one. They were manufacturing touches for him.
110:50He scored a touchdown in that game, right? Like they wanted to get him the ball before he got hurt in the summer.
110:56The beat writers were saying he was getting a ton of volume in practice.
111:00So he was going to be part of this offense.
111:03Eventually, he just needed to get up to speed.
111:05Now that was happening. But then we also had Mason Taylor get hurt.
111:09He's week to week. Not sure when he's going to be back.
111:12And then I had an I Mitchell, obviously with the finger injury last week, he ends up sitting out that game and
111:18a game where they were going against the Lions, who were the number one defense for fantasy tight ends to face, which was a great matchup there.
111:25It was obvious this was going to happen. I talked about Sadiq as a last minute pickup on fantasy football live on Sunday morning.
111:32And then, of course, he goes out and just blows away all our expectations, right?
111:36105 yards and a touchdown in that one. So this is the kind of guy who is potentially going to be a
111:42tight end one the rest of the season. I think even when A.D.
111:46Mitchell's out there, he is still going to be a big part of this offense.
111:50Any concerns we had before the season about Omar Cooper Jr.
111:53being involved? You know, he's on IR, so he's going to be involved.
111:56This is going to be great. This is somebody that you should have been stashing and now you're going to be able
112:02to play him the rest of the way. 41% snaps in the slot in week three.
112:07That matters a lot because, yeah, obviously when A.D.
112:09Mitchell gets back, he'll take that outside receiver role from Isaiah Williams, who played that.
112:13And yeah, it's a shame that A.D. missed that game and he would have been a really nice sleeper against the Lions.
112:19But Garrett Wilson, A.D. Mitchell, like their best yards after catch threat unless Omar Cooper gets back and is like fully healthy,
112:25but he's not able to establish momentum right now.
112:28Sadiq is like Sadiq is that guy. He's their best design touches manufactured player.
112:32I think his role continues and is solidified. Plays the Bears this week.
112:35Really good opportunity there. Your number one pickup is, of course, Braylon Allen.
112:39We talked about the Brees Hall injury. What do you recommend in terms of resources to spend on a guy like Braylon Allen?
112:45Because you seem pretty excited when we talked about it earlier in the show.
112:49Well, again, we don't think this is going to be anything season ending for Brees Hall, so you don't want to necessarily go too crazy with it.
112:56It also depends the situation you're in, right? Like in a regular everything's neutral.
113:00I would spend about a quarter of your fab budget to get him because I think it's a plug and play situation.
113:06He's potentially going to be an RB2 in your lineup and an RB2 that you can feel pretty good about in this offense.
113:12Obviously, that we're talking about looks a lot better than a lot of people expected this year.
113:17But again, if you are in a situation where you're 0-3, you're not getting a lot from your running backs.
113:23You need a win immediately. Then you're going to want to be even more aggressive because this is a guy that you
113:29can plug into your lineup and maybe can solve that running back problem for a few weeks for you.
113:34So it's really at your own discretion. For me, it would start, though, looking at about a quarter percent and a quarter of your fab budget.
113:41And then other than that, I mean, you can go as high as you want.
113:45If I was 0-3, I'd be willing to spend most of my fab budget to kind of get that player that can
113:51help me get some wins, get things turned around.
113:53I think that's the way you got to look at it.
113:56Especially, as we said, matchup with the Bears this week.
113:59You know, it's a little tougher. Browns, Patriots, I guess, the next two weeks after that.
114:04But Dolphins and Raiders, week seven, week eight. So there's some spots where this Jets team is going to be able to put up points.
114:10And yeah, I mean, Braylon Allen has definitely flashed before.
114:13He's kind of last season was a bit of a lost year with the injury, but he flashed.
114:18That's for sure. Offensive line is good. The ecosystem is definitely better and improved.
114:22So you'll love to see that. Okay, real quick on the drop candidates here now that we've got through the top 10 players to add.
114:29I'll just rattle off by position here. Quarterback, we got Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Malik Willis.
114:33No arguments there. Marshawn Lloyd, Jonathan Brooks, Tajay Spears at running back.
114:36Yeah, you can go ahead and drop the psyops of the summer, which was Marshawn Lloyd and Jonathan Brooks.
114:42At wide receiver, you know, these are bigger names, but this is where it is now at this point.
114:47We talked about the latter three there. I would just say on Chris Godwin with Mayfield hurt and Godwin, he had a
114:53big play called back, which was a bummer because he's definitely struggled to have a lot of consistency through the first three weeks.
114:59He's just obviously a declining player who's not the featured guy in the offense.
115:03And this is going to be really tough for Godwin.
115:06So it's a big name, but someone I do think we saw the signs of decline last year.
115:11I haven't seen anything to really change my mind on that so far this year.
115:15And obviously Xavier worthy, not helping you. Jaden Reed, Khalil Shakir.
115:18Those are guys who you can also drop as well.
115:20And tight end. I can't believe we didn't get any panic submissions on Kyle Pitts because that's a guy that like we
115:26should just go ahead and say Kyle Pitts total coping corner.
115:29No question. And Hunter Henry also. Yeah. But it's beyond panic, which yeah.
115:33Coping corner. I mean, that's like Michael Penix. I love Michael Penix, bro.
115:37He just gets in there and he's just like, where's number five?
115:40How can I find Drake London? He targeted on 40% of his routes in week three.
115:44And that's like an ongoing trend. Michael Penix, I believe if I have the stats off the top of my head, 15
115:50games with Drake London in those 15 games, he has 1,341 yards.
115:54So like basically a full season, Drake London is one of the most productive receivers in the league.
115:58And we said this a lot, Boone, over the summer when Drake London plays Kyle Pitts, he doesn't eat from a fantasy standpoint.
116:05So yeah, he's probably someone that is in the coping corner and certainly someone you can drop at this point.
116:10Yeah. I mean, we saw the splits last year.
116:13I don't know why anyone would have thought it was any anything different this year.
116:17Kyle Pitts not happening for him. Marshawn Lloyd. I know some people are hesitant to drop him, but you have to.
116:23It's not happening for him either. I really don't think it's happening for anybody in that Packers backfield.
116:27So I'd be dropping Caleb Johnson. I don't know why you would have been carrying Chris Brooks other than maybe some like deep dynasty leagues.
116:34But Josh Jacobs, if and when he comes back is the only one that you'd have a little bit of faith in.
116:40And even I think he would have a hard time producing behind this line.
116:44That's the state of things right now. So yeah, I think all of these are pretty obvious drops, even though some of
116:50them are kind of bigger names that people might be hesitant to click on.
116:54You might feel a little bad about it. But with Herbert schedule, all those receivers that we have there, they're all like
117:00guys who might give you 40 yards or so.
117:02But that's not really helping your fantasy team that much.
117:05So I don't think you have to feel bad about dropping any of them.
117:09And they will definitely have. I don't know about the worthy Khalil Shakir, you know, Quentin Johnson, but like there's going to
117:15be moments for Godwin, for BTJ, for Marv. Like the moments will come.
117:19Boom, it's just going to be really difficult to predict when those are going to happen.
117:23And it's just like that. There was a risk of that coming into the season for all three of those guys.
117:29Unfortunately, I think so far through three weeks, it's a small sample, but through three weeks, we've seen the negative side of those ranges of outcomes.
117:36Boom. No negativity in the range of outcomes having you on the show, buddy.
117:40This has been great. Fit like a glove. No, it wasn't.
117:43Wasn't shocked. But we hopped right into the rhythm on this one.
117:46And I appreciate you jumping back on by. We even wore the same color.
117:50Look at us two idiots wearing green. We should talk about this before the show.
117:54Come on now. Absolutely foolish that we both wore green in this one.
117:57But again, that's because we're just mind melded here, even though we haven't been potting as much recently.
118:02But man, it's great to be back. And yeah, I can't wait to keep doing this panic meter show the rest of the season.
118:09No question. I can't wait either. Although it is always tough to talk through some of the panic and maybe some of
118:15your off season takes that you're already selling on.
118:17I think both of us had to do a little bit of that this year.
118:22Won't be the last time that we have to do that.
118:25As well. We will be back on this channel tomorrow for the week four data dump with Ray Garvin.
118:30Plus, we have an update. I've been hinting at it through the show, but we will have some updates on the Yahoo Fantasy League.
118:36Yeah. You know, some good updates for some of us.
118:39Some bad updates for others. Boone, we wish you good luck going into Monday Night Football.
118:43I know you got a little bit of a sweat here going into that one.
118:48But that is going to be live at 4 p.m.
118:50Eastern on this YouTube channel. Until then, we are out.